1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast more strange than a Sissler. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Fever dream from the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. My name is Dan Heads and I got 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: heroes here, Greg Rosendal, Mark Sessler and them Feva. 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Dreams and to my right. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: During the regular season, it was Wednesdays with Connie Connie. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Now it is not Tuesdays with Maury. Tuesdays with Connie, 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 2: Colleen Wilf. It's way more fun, way more fun than 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: a Mitch album. Page Turner, Hello, Hey, you had a 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: great idea off seasons rapidly approaching. 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: Uh huh, I love. 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: The off season summer of Connie's almost sure. 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Sure the idea of us just dedicating an episode to 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: breakups in. 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: Our personal life breakup stories because we were just telling 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: some off air and they were quite amusing. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: I think that'd be good, and we have a little 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 5: NFL hook to it, you know, there's some breakup that 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 5: week and then we dive in. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, gotta be careful how you you know, label the 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 6: person that you were talking like high school years, right, 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 6: These could be alien, sure, they could be adults with children. 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 6: At this point, you don't want to revisit that in 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 6: the If they're listeners. 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: They don't have to be our person. It could be 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: like a friend crazy breakup. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: We have a lot of breakup. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: Stories where his ex girlfriends are listening to the show 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 5: on a regularly not entirely untrue. 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: You have women that you've dated that are listening right now. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: I have evidence of one. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 6: Wow, not religiously and probably turned off by the whole concepts. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Like the off seasons here go ahead? 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Is this camp happiness r? Sessler? 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: No, it would be posted by the lake that had 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 6: multiple errors, but it would be posts that in general. 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Pearl Jim just put out verses. I think we'll see 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: name the doctors on top of the world. 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: Save it for the I mean, Dan and I haven't 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: even had our our spouses ever listened to the show. 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: And Mark Scott his camp Happiness girl still still checking 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: in daily. She's like, Oh, I can't wait to hear 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 5: about the Steelers offensive coordinator higher What Mark has to say? 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Not sure it's continually If that's the word you just use, 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: can we get can we have around the show for 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: that episode? Yeah? 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 6: I would, I'd be happy to check. I don't think 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: there's any ill will at this point. Again, I think 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 6: anyone that I dated from back then has like, you know, 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 6: four children at this point and is a completely different person. 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: No hard feelings good. 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 6: I'm assuming maybe if you get under it the old sestom, 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 6: maybe you buried him and then you get a little 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: bit deep and you realize there are issues still there. 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: Four children each. I mean, Mark only liked him if 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 5: they were fertile. 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: He's like that. The first thing I ask you stop. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: Speaking of uh, you know, art, hard talks and digging 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: into the emotional emotional side of things. A little later 61 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: in today's show, we're going to give some pep talk boks, 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: some heart to hearts, some tough talks to those who 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: need them. Colleen, how confident one to ten are you 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: with the understanding of today's. 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: Well, you just said pep talks, and when you texted 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 4: us you said tough conversations. 67 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes a pep talk is a tough conversation. Okay, 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: But I asked for. 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 6: Clarific I am often in her world about I'm driving 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 6: around having no CONCEPTENCEE and I are aligned on this. 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: We are, and like I I actually had asked for clarification. 72 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Can I offer a clarify that as as host, Colleen 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: is often a little confused about where to take it. 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Mark's all funnel to the same place, Like it doesn't 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: matter how clear the explanation. 76 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: We said, like I want to I want to make 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 6: sure I'm trying to meet what your vision was, and 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: you said any I think anything goes basically so it's 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 6: just a conversation. 80 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: It's just right, Well, somehow will go wrong. I have 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: a feeling I'll let you very confident. 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: I feel confident that if you feel confident, we'll all 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: be confident that this segment went well. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great. 85 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: All right, but. 86 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: Before we do that, and by the way, today's show 87 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: is presented by DraftKings, Nice bang. 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 6: I'd also mention one thing because I think that people 89 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 6: think that we have these easy jobs where here we 90 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 6: know no it just you come in and you just 91 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 6: talk about sports. It's like all four of us simultaneously 92 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 6: on our laptops are dealing with what I would call 93 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 6: like a. 94 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: It's like a category eight like I would. 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Issue if if imagine for those old enough, if Y 96 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: two K actually happened. 97 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: That's what we're dealing with. And it's and I will 98 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm not ik it counts clear traffic lights blinking. We 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: don't need to we don't need to like dig down 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: into it. 101 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 6: But but at any moment, like every three or four minutes, 102 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: all of our computers invariably are shutting off and we 103 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 6: have to restart them while our information is contained on screen. 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: And yet we continued. It seems seeming no would know they're. 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: Well, now they would because we spent two minutes talking 106 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: about that heroic we are all are fighting through this. 107 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: I'm always told you get duck. No one needs to 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: know what's going on underneath the water. You're just swimming 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: along and it looks very smooth, and all the chaos 110 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: is underneath. 111 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 6: I like to make us look, you know, as valuable 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 6: as possible. 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I think to synchronize the security detail these laptops universally. 114 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: It feels like a major misstep by the IT department. 115 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: It around that it may just sink today's program, But. 116 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: I love it. I love everyone that works in the 117 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: IT department. 118 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Here. We have bad days here. This is their bad day, 119 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: and we're going to work through it hopefully. 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm confident in that. 121 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: All right, it just can't It just came up there. 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: It is. 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 6: It's a ready, it's not fictional. It's like we're working 124 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 6: with this in real time. 125 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Let's just in this. Greg's uncomfortable the end of the play. 126 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Tough you know, don't worry, Bub, there's only sixty five 127 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: million people watching that game. 128 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: Tough one. Bub, Why did you just? Why did you side? 129 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I said that. 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: He's fighting through it. He's fighting through a difficult situation. 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: He is. 132 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: He's paddling underneath the surface, which we knew his name 133 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 5: would be very easy. 134 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, find that out pract official voice. 135 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I think he could walk into a bar 136 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 6: and knock like half the bar out too. It's not 137 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 6: like he was some wimp up there, which as he's 138 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 6: John Raid from a Johnny Smith hanging there. It's like, 139 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 6: you know, Bub, Peter Brady voice cracking like you know 140 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 6: what I mean. 141 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: He was sick. He was, he was sick. Let's all 142 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: been there. 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: Let's try to avoid nineteen seventies pop culture references. 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: We got to move forward as it we got it. 145 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I won't go there again. We have a young clientele. 146 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Eighty pop culture references just. 147 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Roughly forty years ago. 148 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: Let's get to the eighties, preferably nineties. I just had 149 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: a Y two K ref. 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: He was singing Frasier before the show. 151 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: Let's talk about how Live was a bad band name 152 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: for the tenth time on the show. 153 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: The Internet is actually a band name too. 154 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean when Ed Kual checking the guys from York 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania said we got to come up with a band 156 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: name back in about ninety one, and they're like, Live 157 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: it talks about how we're vital and that that's where 158 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: our music comes to life. 159 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: And then it's like six years later, you're on AOL 160 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: and you got him in Live. They go, was it 161 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: live with an ext explanation point too? 162 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: I believe No, it was like Live with some type 163 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: of like reverse underscore and overscore over the eye. Well, yeah, 164 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: it's tough one that you can't which is not searchable either, a. 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Marketing Y two K truly. All right, let's do some 166 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: news became a huge mistakes. 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons have named Raheem Morris their new head coach. 168 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh you're so unfair, Dan. Raheem Morris, the. 169 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: First former NFL head coach Arthur Blank is hired in 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: his twenty plus year tenure. 171 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: He is and this is a positive. 172 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: The first full time blackhead coach in the franchise's history, 173 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: and he's also notably not Bill Belichick. So the Atlanta 174 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: Falcons go with Raheem Morris, who's had previous head coaching 175 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: experience with Tampa Bay. 176 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: He was also an interim head coach. Where was he 177 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the interim coach? 178 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 6: Well, alcoul it was almost hired for that job, that right, 179 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: thank you very much. 180 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 2: So after fourteen interviews, Colleen, the Falcons go with Raheem Morris. 181 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: How you feeling about this one? 182 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: I mean I kind of think that it's sort of 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: for Arthur Blank, the fact that he wasn't hired the 184 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: last time when they went with Arthur Smith. This is 185 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: sort of like, Okay, maybe I made a mistake, like maybe. 186 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: You should have been the head coach the last time. 187 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: But the search that they had, i mean, fourteen candidates, 188 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: multiple second interviews, like they almost be exhausted first of 189 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: all from the interview process in general. But it's kind 190 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: of I just think it's really interesting that they ended 191 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: up bringing him back when he was on the coaching 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: staff there from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. Obviously he's 193 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: known as a defensive guy, but he's coached on both 194 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: sides of the ball because in Atlanta he was the 195 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: wide receivers coach from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. But 196 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: it's a totally different roster at this point from when 197 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: Raheem Morris was last there. Only six players remain from 198 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: his last time there who were under contract for this 199 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: upcoming season. And I think that it's kind of interesting 200 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: too that both Morris and Terry Fontina the GM will 201 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: report directly to Blank, so they cut out Rich McKay 202 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: the CEO, and Blank said that McKay will no longer 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: be involved in day to day football operations. So that 204 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: almost reminds me of back when Chip Kelly came in 205 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: as the Eagles head coach and Howie Roseman was like 206 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: banished to a storage closet essentially, and. 207 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: The other side of the building literally, yeah. 208 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: Came back rose from the Ashes. But ultimately, the quarterb will. 209 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: Dictate Raheem's success as the head coach there, like Desmond 210 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: Ritter and Taylor Heineky, Taylor Heinie, He's going to be 211 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: a cap casualty. So whoever they end up bringing in 212 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: is going to be the ultimate decider of what happens 213 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: with Raheem Morris in his second chance as a head 214 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 4: coach and his second chance with Atlanta. 215 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: Will it be like. 216 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: A Baker Mayfield type because Baker and Raheem were together 217 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: in LA. If things don't work out with Baker and 218 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, since he's a free agent, will they bring 219 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: in someone like her cousins or Russell Wilson. So I 220 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: think that that is the main thing to really watch. 221 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: He's entirely different, did it? 222 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: That's all I got? 223 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Human, That's a lot. That was good. 224 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: Look, he was one of the youngest head coaches in 225 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: NFL history when he took that Bucks job. He was 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 5: thirty three years old. 227 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Remember the youngree Bucks. 228 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: It was two thousand Hungary, it was two thousand and nine. 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: They went ten and six in his second year with 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: Josh Johnson as his quarterback. 231 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: That's the coach of the year, Josh Freeman. Rather, no, 232 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so, but he definitely was. I remember 233 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: the best one we ended up seeing an NFL mark 234 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: and off that year. 235 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: He was like stock up. Yes, he was seen as 236 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: one of the great young coaches in the least. 237 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: And that was now what thirteen years ago, and all 238 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 5: you hear from players, from coaches, from everyone. He's beloved 239 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 5: and like you, hear it enough year after year after 240 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 5: year that he, like Jalen Ramsey says he's the best 241 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: coach he's ever had. All these different coaches say, all 242 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: these different players say, this is the best coach I 243 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 5: ever had. And a lot of it is like leader 244 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: of men, he has a better idea of how different 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: organizations work. I think this is a great way to 246 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: get your second job, that you had that much amount 247 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: of time in between, and you saw that many different 248 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 5: sort of setups under Dan Quinn in Atlanta, under Sean 249 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: McVeigh in Los Angeles, and the staff I think that 250 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: he sold them on also was probably a big part 251 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: of that. Zach Robinson is offensive coordinator. He was a 252 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: highly respected assistant in Los Angeles who's kind of seen 253 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 5: as the next offensive guy from that tree, and he 254 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: very tight with Morris, and Morris sold them on like 255 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 5: he's gonna come with me, He'll take this job instead 256 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: of all the other ones, like the Patriots were hot 257 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 5: after him, the Saints, all these other ones, And that's 258 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: part of it. And then more than more than all that, 259 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 5: like they know him, they know him and they like him, 260 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: and so there's familiarity there that I think he had 261 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: that the other eight or nine Second Interview candidates didn't have. 262 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick was never getting this job after he left 263 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 5: the Second Interview and he wasn't hired. I think people 264 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: have kind of been like, I can't believe they didn't 265 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 5: hire Belichick. I know you said that to and I 266 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 5: get that, But that decision was made two weeks ago 267 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: because Belichick, like the second Belichick left that Second Interview 268 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 5: and he wasn't the choice, and they continued tow they 269 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 5: clearly weren't hiring him, Like, if you're hiring Bill Belichick, 270 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: you just hire him. He came in with whatever he 271 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 5: wanted the setup to be, they didn't agree with it 272 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 5: for whatever reason, and so then out of the other 273 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 5: thirteen choices, to me, Morris makes a lot of sense. 274 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 6: I think it was more of a Belichick saying probably 275 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 6: like I don't want to work with a Terry Fott know, 276 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 6: the one we don't know. 277 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: We don't know the history around Belichick, we don't even 278 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: know like all this talk around Belichick, like he wants 279 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: to make all the decisions, all this different stuff. 280 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: We're all just kind of assuming that and we don't know. 281 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: I loved it from I don't why we didn't hear 282 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: report from the Washington Post that he was planning to 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: bring Patricia, Joe Judge and possibly Joshua. 284 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so members of the step. But I mean in 285 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: terms of the day to day football. 286 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 6: Up, yeah, I think it's just like Belichick basically not 287 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: moving off of Belichick thinking. 288 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: And that's fine. 289 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that like there was other people saying 290 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 6: that Arthur Blank actually was pretty resolute on giving him 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: a real chance and wanting to bring Belichick in. 292 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think they want. I think they supposedly 293 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: in November this was their plan. They've been working on 294 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: Belichick for months and something made them change their mind. 295 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 6: But I don't think Morris is like this deep second place, 296 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 6: because I was listening to Peter King, who had talked 297 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 6: to a ton of people over years, and was like, 298 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 6: he said that Raheem Morris and he wasn't pumping him 299 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 6: up that if you ranked like coaches, what in terms 300 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 6: of the higher review that he gets they got from 301 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 6: people that work with him over years and years, that 302 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 6: Raheem Morris was easy top five and that players were 303 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 6: actually agitated when he left the Falcons the last time. 304 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 6: That to your point, like Greg he that's how he 305 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 6: makes players feeling. So I do like the coach that 306 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 6: doesn't just get hired like the next cycle after they 307 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 6: get fired and they failed. It's like he has gone 308 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 6: and done everything. If you're saying that Mike McCarthy went 309 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: and had a one year away sojourn to learn about 310 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: other ways to do things, like Morris has gone half 311 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: of his career doing that. And I think it's a 312 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 6: good fit because he fits in an organization that he 313 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 6: already fitted well. 314 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean, just be clear, I don't think Raheem Morris 315 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: is gonna necessarily I'm not saying he's a. 316 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: From a Belichick angle. 317 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I find it difficult to wrap my 318 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: head around, especially if it's true that blanket circled Belichick 319 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: months and months ago. 320 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: That to change your mind and hire, yes, he's what 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: would make you change your mind, I don't know. 322 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: We don't know eating like that at a certain point, Listen, 323 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the everything about this, the fact that 324 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: they spoke with fourteen different people, the general trajectory of 325 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: this organization since twenty eight three, and I just I 326 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: can't give them the benef of the doubt that they 327 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: haven't galaxy brained their way into an absurd decision. And 328 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: maybe everyone else is right, because I know this is 329 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: now the popular thinking. Bill is over the hill, Bill 330 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: demands control. Bill is a guy that he comes in 331 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: and nobody can work with him because he's a certain way. 332 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: And maybe that is all true, or maybe people are 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: having the chance to hire Bill Belichick right now and 334 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: they've gotten in their mind so wrapped around the negatives 335 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: that they don't see what's right in front of them, 336 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: which is the most successful head coach who has ever lived. 337 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: That's all. 338 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: And I feel bad because it was kind of a 339 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: d move for me to be negative about Raheem when 340 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: I set the story up, But it's because I think 341 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: it's outrageous in a coaching cycle where there's been what 342 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: eight openings that this guy is gonna. 343 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 5: Be out of, Well, they're there the only ones even 344 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: that way, literally, And I think that was I heard that, 345 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: and this makes sense to me that that might have 346 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: been a factor and it shouldn't be. And it does 347 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: point to what you're saying, the Falcons being a bad organization. 348 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Maybe is like I think they. 349 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: Were a little spooke that literally no one else had 350 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: any interest in him. 351 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: They're like, that shouldn't be Ye, you're discuss should processed 352 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: in you should have your own mind. 353 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: We have no idea what We don't know that either. 354 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: We don't know a lot of things, but you don't 355 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: know what his demands were or anything like that. 356 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: But I know enough about Bill Belichick and his history 357 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: in New England, and I've listened to Tom Kerran, who 358 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: knows him as well as anyone, talking about It's like, 359 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: he's not going to be like, oh yeah, I'll like 360 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: I'll like report to Rich McKay or I'll like work 361 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 5: with Terry Fi Like, of course he's not doing that, 362 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: Like that's not going to be an option for him 363 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: at this stage of his career. 364 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: But also Raheem has to be attractive because of his 365 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: experience there, and obviously Arthur Blank knows him so well. 366 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: I was talking to DiAngelo Hall about this because when 367 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: when d Hall was doing the morning show with me, 368 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Good Morning Football, and that was when he when let's 369 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: see what year was that when Morris was the interim 370 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: head coach. 371 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Was that twenty twenty twenty? 372 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Dee Hall absolutely loved Raheem then and he 373 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: was standing on the table for him then to get 374 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: the job. And it was like from week after week 375 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: as soon as he took over as the interim and 376 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: I was like, are you going to go and work 377 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: in Atlanta? But he's under contract still in Carolina, d 378 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: Hall is, but he was just saying he loves Raheem 379 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: and he really thinks that he a great job, relates 380 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: to the players. 381 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 5: And he is kind of sneakily like a big Shanahan 382 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: slash mcmay tree guy because he was on that Washington staff, 383 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 5: that the original Shannon staff. He was with Kyle Shanahan 384 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: and he was the receivers coach during twenty three. He 385 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 5: was on the offensive side of the ball during that 386 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: and he was just twice he was on the offensive 387 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: and then he was just with McVeigh, you know. So 388 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 5: he is from that tree that everyone's kind of going. 389 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: And I heard the Rams pushed really hard too, saying 390 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: like they loved him. They talked him up and to 391 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: their own detriment because they lose Zach Robinson and he's 392 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: taking some more staff members from the Rams. 393 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: They do get two third round, they do get that 394 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: Sentory picks. That does help. 395 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: That's how it goes. All right, let's move on. This 396 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: is a surprise that broke right before we started. Ben 397 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: Johnson is not leaving the Detroit Lions. The offensive coordinator 398 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: informed the Seahawks and Commanders. Those are the two teams 399 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: that if you have to hire a coach that he's 400 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: staying in Detroit. That's from Tom Pellisero and Seattle and Washington. 401 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: As I said, they have those two vacancies. He was 402 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: scheduled to meet with both clubs for interviews this week, 403 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: but instead of the thirty seven year old will stay 404 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: in Detroit. 405 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Mark. 406 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: This is obviously a big lift for the Lions at 407 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: a time where they could use some good news to 408 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: keep that continuity with the offense. 409 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: And also we'll just I'll just say it a risk for. 410 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson because you don't year to year, especially as 411 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: an OC, you never know how you know, your public 412 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: perception could change. He was a very hot name this year, 413 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: He'll probably be a hot name next year, but he 414 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: chooses to stay home and great news for the Lions. 415 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: It we have seen coaches who were high flyers and 416 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 6: about to get hired make a you know, a philosophical 417 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 6: choice to pass stay where they are and then their 418 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 6: names fade if the you know, if the Lions were 419 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: to crash and burn next season, like benj it's all 420 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 6: about like hype and Kellen Moore as an example, I 421 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 6: mean Kellen Moore, Yes. 422 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: He's getting James Byron left, which supposedly turned down the 423 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 5: Doug Peterson job in Jacksonville. 424 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: He's led really not even in a league right, fade fast. 425 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 6: But you know, chefter at a nugget that Ben Johnson 426 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 6: also was asking for a lot of money. That could 427 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 6: also just be spin and pr and you know, people 428 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 6: saying things, but his asking price was very high. But 429 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: I think if you're him and you look at the 430 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 6: team that you're on right now, and the way it's built, 431 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 6: like the other wilderness you could be in is to 432 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 6: go to a team and have like Geno Smith melt away, 433 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 6: or go to Washington and pick the wrong quarterback and 434 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 6: then you're in a terrible situation and everyone's pointing fingers 435 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: at you. 436 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: You can stay like the center of the party. 437 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 6: If you go to Detroit, they go back to the 438 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: playoffs and you got a chance at eight other teams 439 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: next sup. 440 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: As was trying to say in our conversation with Cynthia 441 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday, We're we talk about canalas like, if you 442 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: really believe in your abilities. I'm not saying this has 443 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: happened what happened with him, but it's okay to pass 444 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: on a job opening like the one in Carolina, which 445 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 2: is very dicey if you want something that is more 446 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: suited for you or feels like a better landing spot. 447 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: Can always takes an obvious risk with Carolina. Ben Johnson 448 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: is going the other route. 449 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave Canalis, huh, you're. 450 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Doing good with the with the canal Anala. 451 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 4: I mean, this is now, what the second time that 452 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson has turned down potential head coaching opportunities. 453 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: We don't know like. 454 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 4: If he would have gotten these jobs or not, but 455 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: since he's staying, that's such a boon for Dan Campbell 456 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: now that he doesn't have to go out and find 457 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: someone else to be a creative play caller that knows 458 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 4: these players that had this success, and it just feels 459 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: like if they're able to keep this in place and 460 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: go far again, then Ben Johnson has even more of 461 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: a leg to stand on with these head coaching opportunities. 462 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: So I just think it speaks volumes of the culture 463 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: in Detroit too, of what they've been able to build 464 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: and for Ben Johnson to see when he started with Detroit, 465 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: because he's seen it really dark there. He's seen dark 466 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: times and he's seen the turnaround. And to your point, Dan, yeah, 467 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: go to a place that has to that. He would 468 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: have to do that again, that's not easy. That's not 469 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: an easy thing to turn around, to change people's mindset 470 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: and to go to another toxic place and to make 471 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: it a winning atmosphere, Like that's not easy, and like. 472 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 6: Not every thirty seven year old is maybe inside like 473 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: measuring where they're at like ready to do this. Like 474 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 6: I know that everyone getting is getting hired at younger, 475 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 6: like there are I'm we talked. I talked to Ian 476 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: one time and he talked about like a certain head 477 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: coach candidate reached out saying like like I like that 478 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 6: people see me this way, but I feel like I 479 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 6: need more experience. 480 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: And it's like that's like Raheem Morris the f first 481 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: time he's talked about it. 482 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't really ready for it. 483 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: And I think it's awesome because I just like the 484 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: idea that someone in this society essentially can decide like 485 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: there are more things better, more important than money. Like 486 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: I think he's making a personal choice that I don't 487 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: know if it's about readiness, I don't know anything like that. 488 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: To me, it's like I have this situation that I 489 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 5: truly love, that we're trying to accomplish something special, that 490 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: I've been here for five years, that I know this 491 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 5: is great and whatever is going to be next in 492 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 5: my career is gonna be next in my career. But man, 493 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 5: like this is amazing right now, and I wanna I 494 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: want to do it even more, even if I'm gonna 495 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: make less money this year, Like I'm not freaking going poor. 496 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 5: I have more than enough money to live off and 497 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: then some. And I'm confident in myself too if you're 498 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 5: Ben Jonson that like there should be opportunities in the future, 499 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: whatever they were gonna be, and I'm gonna just do 500 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: this because that gives me like a higher standard of 501 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: living and like what matters more to me, that's very 502 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: happiness Like that, Like imagine if they do get to 503 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl next year, and if they don't, like 504 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 5: he's gonna have coordinator jobs and he's gonna have more 505 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 5: money than anyone should possibly have in like the world 506 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: for the rest of his life anyways, right. 507 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: And if the Chargers would who have Justin Herbert or 508 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: you know, if the Bengals and Joe Burrow there was 509 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: an opening, he probably would take the jump. 510 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 5: But maybe cowbody this Cowboys Eagles next year, like who 511 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 5: knows what's. 512 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Going I like it. 513 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: I like then Ben Johnson knows he should still be 514 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: in the catbird seat next year. 515 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 5: He should be Aaron Glenn is interviewing for that Washington job. 516 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: By the way, still luck Air and Washington said they 517 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: were surprised, according to Adam Schefter, so they they were 518 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 5: not expecting. 519 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of Kellen Moore, he formerly of the Cowboys and 520 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: the Chargers, is now the offensive coordinator of the Eagles, 521 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: so he joins app coaching staff. Also, this happened a couple. 522 00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: Of days ago. 523 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Big Fangio, after a rocky one year tenure in Miami, 524 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: lands in Philadelphia, so you got more and Fangio and 525 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Connie with the Eagles here. They made the decision to 526 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: stick with your boy, Sirianni. And they've now surrounded him 527 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: with very probably expensive and successful coordinators, So that was 528 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: the move they reinforced, let's say, the foundation around Sirianni, 529 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: which I kind. 530 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Of get makes sense. 531 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like Sirianni is giving Brandon Staley vibes 532 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: in this situation because Kellen Moore goes there. 533 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: And it's like, was this sort of a forced move. 534 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: On Sirianni by Howie Roseman, Jeffrey Lorie. 535 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: He probably doesn't have a lot of leverage in the 536 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: organization right. 537 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: Now, Howie mus So. 538 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: I mean, the Eagles have wanted more for a while though, 539 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: Like they interviewed him to be the head coach in 540 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one and then went with Sirianni instead, And 541 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: now that they're bringing in more, we're under Siri. That's 542 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: why it just feels like this is sort of an 543 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: arranged marriage and that Sirianni is on an even shorter leash. 544 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: And I mean, frankly, a lot of people thought that 545 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: he wasn't even gonna be in Philadelphia again, despite his record, 546 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 4: despite going to the Super Bowl last year. I think 547 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: it it's I like the move just because the with Sirianni, 548 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: they never used motions or shifts and they never really 549 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 4: mixed up the offense that way, and that's what Kellen 550 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: Moore does. That's what he's good at. The knock on 551 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 4: more is that he doesn't really run the ball, so 552 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: that was sort of the issue at a lot of 553 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: times last year in Philadelphia. So we'll have to see 554 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: how that goes. But Moore's offenses have traditionally handled the 555 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: blitz really well. That was another area that the Eagles 556 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: offense were lacking in. If it goes well, though, Kellen Moore, 557 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: I guess, will probably end up getting head coaching opportunities 558 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: because that would mean that they would keep Siriani if 559 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 4: things do work out and they have success. So it's 560 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 4: just sort of an interesting play. 561 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: It reminds me a ton of when they. 562 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 5: Moved Howie to the other side of the building, because 563 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: it all seems it doesn't even seem it's clearly a 564 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 5: Jeff Loriy think. I don't even think it's rope. I mean, 565 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: it's the two of them working together. They're the two 566 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 5: most powerful guys in the in the building. But I 567 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: think Jeff Lori was convinced by Siria like, we're gonna 568 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: keep you, but it's not gonna be your offense anymore. 569 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 5: We want to update and modernize, and so we want 570 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 5: we want you to run the whole thing, but you're 571 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 5: gonna do it with guys that are unfamiliar to because 572 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: it's not his offense anymore. He is now out of 573 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 5: his tree and he it does seem a little awkward 574 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: having two great interim head coaching candidates right on the roster, 575 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 5: But it's a proven year for Kellen Moore too. I'm 576 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: sure he would have gotten a different job in this cycle. 577 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: There's still a lot of coordinator jobs open, but his 578 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 5: stock is not nearly as high. Like the Chargers were 579 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 5: totally disappointing last year on offense. Got you know, he 580 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 5: started like a house on fire, and that happened a 581 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: lot in Dallas, where they'd start well and they finished poorly. 582 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 5: So if that's what happened with Kellen Moore in Dallas, 583 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 5: it's what happened with him in LA. 584 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: So he's got a lot to prove too. 585 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 6: I mean it's I have the Polder type stuff because 586 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 6: either you're looking at him as one of the most 587 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: like pressure packed new coordinators in the league based on 588 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: the fact that like there's a lot of questions around 589 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 6: everyone on that offense. But also things melted down so 590 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 6: poorly and became such a nuclear winner as the regular 591 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 6: season ended that like, maybe it can't get a lot worse. 592 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: And they have great players, Like they still have really 593 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: great players on offense, which matters. 594 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 4: Awkward vibes there right all around it was it was 595 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 4: an awkward end to the season and now it just 596 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: feels like an awkward off season now too. 597 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the stability around Philly, as you're saying, is 598 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: not great. But Kellen Moore is thinking to himself, you know, 599 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: maybe this ends with me being the interim coach and 600 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: maybe we've seen, as we saw in Las Vegas as 601 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: an example, a recent example, I keep the job if 602 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: I do well. It's another it's a backdoor way to 603 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: get a job. 604 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: Head coach also means that, like you started, stuff is 605 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: terrible and you've got to fix all that probably in 606 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: four or five weeks, and that's tough, and Kellen Moore's mind, 607 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 5: probably the better outcome is even like Jalen hurts his 608 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 5: back of the m VP mix, We're awesome and I'm 609 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 5: a head coach a year right now. 610 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: Or make all those guys terrible in the first month 611 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: you just fired and then that's a move. That's what 612 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce did. Don't don't get it twisted. 613 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 6: That is not what I don't think takes on the 614 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: coach calculated. 615 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 5: I watched that Sirianni presser by the way, and Sirianni 616 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 5: city next to Howie. 617 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: They were just with like a gun in his ribs. 618 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 5: He just felt very like, I'm at I'm like the 619 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: kid now at the adults table, and it was just 620 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 5: like Tony, everything down and. 621 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: Kids have no responsibility and everything provided for them. 622 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: So that sounds like serious. 623 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: I kind of can't wait for the Combine press conferences 624 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: to happen. 625 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: You think they'll let him do that? 626 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: Well, and then Dom will be there, big Dom. 627 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: What did they do the thing where I just put 628 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: him on the lap and then do the voice whose lap? 629 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Well? 630 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: You Howie, Howie he puts Sirianni on his lap? 631 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Does mem five? Well? 632 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but it's visually awkward to go for it. 633 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 6: Why not adults on child's lap? 634 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: Not. 635 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: Let's spend through the rest of us real quick. And 636 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: if you if you must share hot takes, please do uh, 637 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: but but be smart about them and concise. Arthur Smith 638 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: expected to be hired by the Steelers as their offensive 639 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: coordinator John Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh. Excuse me, you got 640 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: to get used to that again. Who's back in the 641 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: NFL At the Chargers. He brings Michigan DC Jesse Minter 642 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: with him. Uh, he will be yes run their defensive 643 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: Browns mark your Brown's hired Ken Dorsey as their offensive coordinator. 644 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: The Bills promote Joe Brady from interim to full time 645 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: OC after a successful takeover during last season. And Bobby 646 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: Bobbick as Bills d C. Is that right, bobbych Rabbit 647 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: and anything on those personnel moves. 648 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: I don't love Arthur Smith potentially still not having a quarterback, 649 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 6: but I do think he's probably just a better OC 650 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: than head coach. 651 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: In general. I think it's kind of fun. 652 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I know Martha's Smith was frustrating in Atlanta, 653 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: but he's an upgrade from what's been going on. I remember, 654 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: and he was fun as a coordinator in Tennessee. 655 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: So great Bigger was calling for his return to Nashville. 656 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: So you know, he did have a lot of success. 657 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 5: And I thought it was telling. The ownership there in 658 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh was like, we're sick of losing like he was 659 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: seeing that we have some urgency here. We're gonna give 660 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 5: Tomlin a long term contract, but we have some urgency 661 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: to get past what's going on. 662 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: And by that I read like. 663 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: We're gonna bring in They might be doing a little 664 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: bit more of a Jeffrey Lurry thing where they're bringing 665 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 5: in some people from the outside. After hearing from Tomlin 666 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: over and over, it's like, we're gonna do how we're 667 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 5: gonna do. Tomlin, I think is being made to maybe 668 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: open open up the common. 669 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: He worried for George Pickens because like Arthur Smith never 670 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: utilized his top guys like that was always He. 671 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: Did a nice job with aj Brown, though I thought, yeah, 672 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 6: But but I caught it right, like there's some residual 673 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: concern just based on something about him car crash in 674 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 6: the press conferences where like being a head coach, it 675 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 6: did seem too stressful for him, and maybe it all 676 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 6: like impacted like that he fits well as a coordinator. 677 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 2: I see that impacted his to get increasingly frustrated by 678 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: the aspects of the job. Man, if you put Kirk 679 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: Cousins in Pittsburgh and gave him Arthur Smith, the Steelers 680 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: are cooking with grease? Would you though, Mark I poured them? Yes, 681 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: why do I give you? And finally chiefs. 682 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Uh why the shot? No, I'm saying because he's you know, 683 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: he's a brand. I don't need to worry about. I'm 684 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: fine because well you're asking me. You trying to lead 685 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: me into a man's plain hit. 686 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: Why are you so defensive? 687 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 6: Why are you yelling when the Browns can you know, 688 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: hire the coordinator that was fired Josh Allen? 689 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Is this quarterback? You got to do it? Charles ameniheue? 690 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: What were you saying? Nothing? I was being. 691 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey, I like, is just like walk about a 692 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 5: low octane high? But it's for Stefanski. So these these 693 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: like like Babbage under Sean mcderby, What does that really matter? 694 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: He's the defensive. 695 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 6: When you hire an oc and it gets shoved into 696 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 6: the speed round, I think it says, it says. 697 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: But he's not calling the plays like Stefanski is. Greg. 698 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 6: I do understand. I know, so I'm saying low octane higher. Yes, 699 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: I do understand that he's not calling people. 700 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Do love themselves some? Jesse minter? Are we still talking about? 701 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: You know? Because does anyone remember what I said no, 702 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: we don't. Does anyone care about our speed anything? I 703 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: don't know? 704 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Greg, let's talk about Jesse Minter now, well, 705 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: because like let's get those takes that need to be 706 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: out there. 707 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Imagine if you were a Charger change, if. 708 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: I was a jetsman, I'd love to hear we played 709 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: that book as well. Go ahead, go ahead. 710 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: You're still mad about her saying you were she she 711 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: guessed let me so easily. You emotionally manipulated me. Honest, 712 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: we're accused of splaining that's never. 713 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 4: A postman and cause a little chaos, and you're the joker. 714 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: You're welcome, Go ahead, great, go ahead, When last time 715 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: to prepare you have to go chaos? 716 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: Do you understand that the last DC that Jim Harbough 717 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 5: found in Michigan was Mike McDonald, who we knew nothing 718 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: about and came to the NFL and was the best 719 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 5: defensive coach in the league almost immediately. And everyone says 720 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 5: this about Minter too. So there is something about Harbor 721 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 5: that he develops coaches very well, and he needs a 722 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: good defensive coach. 723 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Well. Minter was also with the Ravens, so his brother. 724 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: There's something about these Harvy's. They know what to do, 725 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: so anything. What was your Dorsey comment. 726 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to go back to that place. 727 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 6: I'm trying to with your I think your orderly and 728 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 6: sensible request that we I'm. 729 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: Just trying to get to the second part of the show, 730 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: and Colleen is on a time crunch, so I'm gonna 731 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: move on now. 732 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Charles and many hutre's a I'm gonna time crunch too, 733 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: just to let you know. 734 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: Always so you don't really have any where to go. 735 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: But you're on a tig after this. 736 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: It's just smoke. You just say this smoke. 737 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: Here's Andy Reid, by the way, on Kadarius Tony who 738 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: who said that he wasn't injured and the chiefs are 739 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: lying and blah blah blah. 740 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Here's Andy Reid. 741 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 7: You know obviously he's been on the injury reports, so 742 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 7: I mean I got that part as uh that's not 743 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 7: made up by any means. But he's been working through 744 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 7: some things and he'll, uh you know, he'll be back 745 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 7: out there. 746 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 6: I will saying, I like, have him back out Go 747 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 6: watch this and then go take an hour and read 748 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 6: about like body language when people. I'm not saying that 749 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 6: he's I think he's took our lot. He's in a 750 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 6: sticky situation. But I always like to see where people's 751 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 6: eyes go and they respond to questions because the upper 752 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 6: left thing is like I'm thinking, I'm processing. Sometimes it's 753 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 6: like I'm not telling you exactly everything I know. 754 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: You know, Hindy read it. 755 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: He he sort of invites this, Ki, it's true. 756 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 757 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like they're like they're they're like deep studies about them. 758 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 6: I would just say the FBI and the CIA if 759 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 6: I were. 760 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: Andy read knowing what I know about what Canarisny can 761 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: provide to my team this year? 762 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Go take a walk. 763 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: Right, totally agree? What do you I'll see you back 764 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: at practice. Bye bye. And I know he made big 765 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: plays in the super Bowl last year, but this ain't 766 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: last year. It's a little been a nightmare for them. 767 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: But they invite that. They that is the Chiefs. It 768 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 2: sort of gets lost in the trouble. 769 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 5: No one brings in more what in the draft would 770 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: be called character concerns than the Chiefs. Literally Umana who 771 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 5: who tore his acl and is going to miss the 772 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 5: super Bowl now and was a really good starter for 773 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 5: you know it wasn't available because he was arrested for 774 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 5: domestic battery and assault earlier this year. Like, that's the 775 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 5: type of players that the Chiefs very often bring in 776 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 5: and then think things come with it. 777 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: And that's what's happening in the news. Real quick, it's 778 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: time out to talk a little Game of the week 779 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: presented by DraftKings. The game of the week is actually 780 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: next week. It's the Super Bowl. Heard about it? So 781 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 2: let's take a look at where we're at in the 782 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: Desert Land on this one. The spread sitting right now 783 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: at one and a half the tic tac zone, as 784 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: Bill Simmons is known to say, one and a half 785 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: calorie in a tiktak. It's funny over the over under 786 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: is forty seven and a half. 787 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: All right, Greg? When you look at. 788 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 5: This money line, minus twenty for the Niners. And I've 789 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 5: listened to a lot of Simmons over the year, for 790 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: one's heard that minus one twenty for them. 791 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you were to pick one of these 792 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: props game props, what would you go with? 793 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Give me all the pacheckos. 794 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 5: Sixty eight and a half rushing yards more, sixteen and 795 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 5: a half rushing attempts more, nineteen and a half total 796 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 5: receiving rushing yards. More, how about Pacheco plus three thousand 797 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 5: for MVP. I'm just saying, like, if you think the 798 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 5: Chiefs are gonna win, can't you imagine this forty nine 799 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 5: Ers defense which has been bad week after week after week, 800 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 5: stopping the run that like they give up like two 801 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 5: hundred yard and Pacheco. 802 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 6: Just goes nuts. Get your wallets out unless you work 803 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 6: for this company. 804 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: How do you beat the Niners? You got to keep 805 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: that offense off the field. Run the football. I like that, 806 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: and that man runs like he bites people, Connie. 807 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 4: It's my favorite descriptor of Tom chump chump, chump chump. 808 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 3: So good. 809 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 8: Download the Draft King sports Book cap now and use 810 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 8: code a t N. New customers can bet five bucks 811 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 8: to get two hundred instantly and bonus bets only on 812 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 8: Draft Kings sports Book and official sports betting partner of 813 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 8: Super Bowl fifty eight with code a t N. The 814 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 8: crown is yours. 815 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's uh take a break, and when we 816 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: get back, PEP talks for those who need them, some 817 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: hard conversations. Oh no, difficult ones, all right, welcome back. 818 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: Uh, I just got another prompt for security. 819 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 6: I've learned how to navigate around it. 820 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: This tel me help me. 821 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 5: Well, okay, after this show later on, I think you 822 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 5: need to handle this and just bite the bullet. 823 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: I tried it already. Connected this that you might I'm 824 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to go. I did that too empty. 825 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 6: I'd bring the issue to Las Vegas with you and 826 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 6: see if maneuver around it. But you said you have 827 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 6: a workaround. That's good in the moment. Yeah, but it's not. 828 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 6: It's not content for the show. Do you want to 829 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 6: go on a trip together hand in hand to it afterwards? 830 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't time. What's going on? I don't know. I 831 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: have someone else. I'll come in and win. You know, 832 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: it's the dead zone before the show. What do you 833 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: have going on after the show? Got to pack schedule, 834 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: come up with. 835 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: Something just so much? 836 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: I can't even that's a doctor. All right, here we go. 837 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Not all wrong. 838 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: PEP talks for those who need them. Colleen, you are 839 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: in therapy yourself as you are. You've shared with the show. 840 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: It is perfectly healthy for the mind and body. So uh, 841 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: don't connected now. What you can do now, what you 842 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 2: can do is take what you've learned in that realm. Yeah, 843 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: and use that on someone in the NFL who could 844 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: use it. 845 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, go ahead, all right, Well, you know I 846 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: don't I don't love having tough conversations. 847 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: This is not my favorite thing to do. 848 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 4: I avoid conflict at every possible turn. 849 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 3: But eventually, oh. 850 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: Though it was kind of nice what you did with 851 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: Dana liter earlier. 852 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 4: I just done right exactly. But there comes a point where, 853 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: like the bill comes due, and you have to face 854 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 4: these things you have to in order to get through something. 855 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 4: You need to go straight through and process it. There's 856 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 4: no way you can get around it. And when you 857 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 4: have a long history with someone or something, that makes 858 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 4: it really difficult because a lot of times being familiar 859 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: and having a habit, like it's something that you go 860 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 4: back to doing all the time, but that doesn't necessarily 861 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 4: mean that it's good for you or it's positive. 862 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: It's just familiar. 863 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 4: So a lot of times you have to break the 864 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: cycle and you have to break that and I just, 865 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: you know, I don't love change, but change is necessary 866 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: for growth. 867 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the office with you and 868 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: Suzanne right now. 869 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: I feel like I should have been a psychologists, whatever. 870 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: So I really do appreciate the time that I had 871 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 4: with this thing, but now it's time to move on 872 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 4: and we need to stop using Roman numerals. 873 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh I love this. 874 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: I'm so done with Roman numerals. I learned them in 875 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: grade school and I never needed them again until I 876 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: started working at the NFL, and it would just be 877 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 4: random bits of copy that I wouldn't know were coming, 878 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 4: and a producer would hand me a piece of paper 879 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 4: or just say read the prompter, or it's in the script, 880 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: just read it, and which I hate because I don't 881 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 4: like to just read something cold that someone else wrote 882 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: that I don't know what I'm saying. That's not my vibe, 883 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 4: that's not what I do. I don't ever have someone 884 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 4: else write stuff for me. I write all my own stuff. 885 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: And I would never use a Roman numeral for someone 886 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: that's reading something. 887 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 3: Cold live on the air. 888 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: When was the last time that you guys even used 889 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: a Roman numeral? Like, we're not using Latin, like there's 890 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 4: no other Like if you're listening to a football game, 891 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: it's not like they would speak Latin for the penalties. 892 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 5: Like in high school? What why big waste? Exactly an 893 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 5: easy grade. 894 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 3: The Roman numerals need to stop. 895 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 4: And I thought Super Bowl fifty was going to be 896 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 4: the turning point because it was the first time that 897 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 4: they didn't use a Roman numeral for the Super Bowl. 898 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: And sure it looks nice with like you know when 899 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 4: you're using a lot of x's and v's and i's, 900 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: but you know, there just comes a time to move on, 901 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 4: and I think that time is now and we need 902 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 4: to drop the Roman numerals from society. 903 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 6: Wow, I think it's you know, it's marketing gold because 904 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 6: it got back when it was like xx and like 905 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 6: even a child's like super Bowl twenty. But now where 906 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 6: it's like my mind is scrambled. We aren't a Roman culture. 907 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: We're not HARKing back to something that came from deep like. 908 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: Our origins are in some way, especially the idea of 909 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: the the arena and the gladiators of the sport. 910 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 6: That's fair, but like i'd say, like are called sure 911 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 6: comes from every culture at this point. So they're like 912 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 6: we're melting pot if such a nod to rome, like 913 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 6: oh my thing is bigger, like when it got to 914 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 6: fifty and you're making you fifty six or fifty eight 915 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 6: or then I'm trying to remember what Super Bowl it 916 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 6: was like, I literally can't remember the Super Bowl from 917 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 6: four years ago because it's been put through a Roman 918 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 6: number machine. 919 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. 920 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 4: No, it shouldn't have an L in it, like L 921 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 4: is for loss, so I don't like, say on. 922 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 5: The lower third this week, it's also for love. On 923 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 5: NFL network, they used the number on a graphic. It 924 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 5: was like during they did one of the shows during 925 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 5: the day, maybe it was Insiders, and I was like, 926 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 5: maybe this maybe they're starting to hear you because I'm 927 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 5: with you. 928 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: This needs to change. 929 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 5: It was a marketing gimmick when NFL was not popular 930 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 5: at all and it was going to be this big 931 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 5: thing AFL versus NFL, and no one cared. 932 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 4: Uh. 933 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 5: People watch that a little bit on TV, like literally 934 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 5: no one even showed up for the game, and they're 935 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 5: just trying to get some some pop into it. 936 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: Make it a gladiator. They played it in the coll 937 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: see him. 938 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: I think that was all connected, and so they put 939 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 5: the one and now forget. 940 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: It any research. There are just connecting docs. 941 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 5: I like, oh, I've read this is from America's game. 942 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 5: Michael McCambridge. 943 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: Yes, what I'm saying, is that where the Roman u 944 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: erals because they played at the coliseum. 945 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 5: That I don't know, but it would make sense the 946 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 5: more that they're like, they were trying to pump it 947 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 5: up into this big thing because people weren't really into 948 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 5: the AFL. People weren't that into professional football, but they 949 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 5: definitely weren't into the and there was this new thing, 950 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 5: and everyone thought, well, who cares about this game? The 951 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 5: NFL championship already happened. They sort of saw this as 952 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 5: like a preseason game that's being played after, you know, 953 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: and so they gave it a little more half. 954 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that which is why, Yeah, 955 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: what happened in Super Bowl three with name it was 956 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: so important because when the AFL beat the NFL, it 957 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: legitimized that league and then they came together. Now that's it. 958 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: I think I've probably done a similar monologue on the show. 959 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: I kind of hazily remember it years ago. 960 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: But now about banning Roman numerals, But now I'm back 961 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: on the other side. 962 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: I think it's tradition and uh, and here's and here's 963 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: the other thing. Here's the other thing. 964 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: We had the chance, as we pointed out, they went 965 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: with the number fifty for San Francisco, and that was 966 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: a huge to do. The celebration around the fiftieth anniversary. 967 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 2: The year after that and the next few years after 968 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: that were horrendous orderline embarrassing to use. 969 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: L one L I L. I just looked to the eye. 970 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 2: If they did, if they had the chance to move, 971 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: and they didn't, guess what, We're not going to get 972 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: one hundred until. I mean, we're not going to get 973 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 2: the number back until one hundred, and we're even gonna 974 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: be alive that the next time you see one hundred 975 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 2: a number next to a super Bowl the figure that 976 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: is probably when it's gonna happen. 977 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: I will say unlikely would be the answer, but possibly 978 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: the other. In professional wrestling, WrestleMania almost. 979 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 2: Certainly took it after the Super Bowl, and they used 980 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: Roman number numerals up to thirty before they decided it 981 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 2: doesn't really work anymore. 982 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 6: So, especially wrestling fans don't operate in that mode. Mentally, 983 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 6: i'd say, why do you say that? I don't know 984 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 6: why I said. 985 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: That, But in general, whenever you can follow the path 986 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: of Vince McMahon, you do. And I think we could 987 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: all agree in terms of a intellectual and moral compass. 988 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 6: So was that a point counterpoint? Like was that also 989 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: your presentation? Oh yeah, but yours is. I get what 990 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 6: you're saying. That was a tough talk. But who was 991 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 6: it to is the marketing arm of the league or what? 992 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 6: Or to Roman numerals himself? 993 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Like who was your he's questioning your understanding. 994 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 4: That No, not at all, it's just like who was 995 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 4: it directly to the Roman numerals? 996 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 3: It's time. 997 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 4: Well that's confusing, but like you served your purpose and 998 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 4: you're really nice. 999 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 2: It would be funny to watch it kind of turning 1000 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: around and sadly walking away like fifty eight el elf 1001 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: Bury one one. I I like, just walking away, sulking 1002 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: into the around the bend, never to be seen again, 1003 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 2: and then all proud like fifty eighth number walks in 1004 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: and takes a spot like, well, she brought it up. 1005 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: She turned it into talking to the actual numerals, So 1006 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna humanize them now. 1007 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: I can't stop, all right? Uh? Can I talk since 1008 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: we brought out? Okay, I talk to Bill? Oh yeah, 1009 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: I think you need to. 1010 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 2: Which is weird that I'm even doing this because obviously 1011 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: I have a complicated relationship with the men personally in 1012 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: terms of my fandom and the history and everything around 1013 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: the Patriots, and but I feel like this guy needs 1014 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: and needs a little pick me up because bub you're 1015 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: a legend. I think somebody needs to tell them that 1016 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: right now. I feel like, you know, Linda's not even 1017 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: around to tell them. I don't know if I think. 1018 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 5: I think, if you listen to, maybe demanding to take 1019 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,479 Speaker 5: over the entire Falcons organization is a sign he's still 1020 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 5: feeling that way. 1021 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know that. Again, we don't know the 1022 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: details of the conversation. I kind of wish, well, I'll 1023 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: get to that. There's a lot of conjecture around and 1024 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: discourse around. You're right now, Bill, and everybody says you're 1025 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: too old, and you're too power hungry, and you're you're 1026 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 2: yesterday's news. And I just want you to know that you're. 1027 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: The best man. You're the best, there is, the best, 1028 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: there was, the best there ever will be. 1029 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: You know, you're him that the kids say you're goaded like, 1030 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: don't let like people like Greg tell you you're not 1031 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: great anymore, and you're and you don't deserve to be 1032 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: in power anymore or to build a team again, because 1033 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: all I know update device one moment. 1034 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 4: The same, don't do the Julian Edelman to Tom Brady 1035 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 4: motivation that you're you're too old and. 1036 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 9: Yeah no, like you got eleven super Bowls, bub you 1037 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 9: got eight titles, six as a head coach. The idea 1038 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 9: of you, Bill wasting your another year of your prime 1039 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 9: and you are in your prime, baby fake laughing with 1040 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 9: JB and Howie while Terry bumbles yet another read on 1041 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 9: the teleprompter. It's beneath you. It's uncouth. 1042 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: It was like, Oh, Bill's fine, He'll go to the 1043 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 2: Fox and sit on the dais Are you kidding me? 1044 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? Like, that's what we're cool with. He would 1045 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: he would make his own role. He would make his. 1046 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 3: Own What if they put him in a booth with 1047 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 3: Brady though, that. 1048 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: Would be fun. I would be okay with that. It's 1049 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: beneath you. 1050 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 2: And it's strange to say this, but I really do 1051 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: think Bill Belichick in a in a weird way as 1052 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: being blackballed right now. 1053 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: And I want to know why. I want to know why, Greg. 1054 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: I want to know why because it feels like like 1055 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds is his last year in baseball he had 1056 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: a four to eighty on base percentage, hit close to 1057 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: thirty home runs, couldn't get a job. That guy was 1058 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: a cheater. You're not a cheat, all right, No, forget 1059 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: about that. Maybe it's because you're not a GQ model 1060 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: like Dave Knalas like, maybe that's what it's about. Maybe 1061 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: there are people out there that are saying that you're 1062 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: both frumpy and grumpy, which is a terrible thing to say, 1063 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: but it's out there in the discourse, and the fact 1064 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: that you don't fit the mold of the modern head coach, 1065 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: as if having high cheek bones and a chisel jawline 1066 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: helps you, you know, do January kneel downs after W's 1067 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: with confetti raining down? 1068 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't it help it all? I can tell you them 1069 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: personally that it helps, but don't let them. Don't let 1070 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: them do it? Why because it Stefanski. 1071 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 6: Or I was suggesting that I had high cheekbones. That's 1072 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 6: obviously enough. 1073 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 2: So, yeah, you don't fit the prototype of the quote 1074 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: modern head coach. 1075 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: Whatever, But is that Bill? Is there anything else you'd 1076 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: like to share? Did you watch the game on Monday? Yes? 1077 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: I saw both games and they actually were on Sunday 1078 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 2: and Bill, this is the type of stuff we got 1079 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 2: to keep under our hat a little bit, just because 1080 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: people are asking questions about your age. Just you know, 1081 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 2: let's play this the right way. Bill, play this right 1082 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: way and understand that you are loved and appreciated, and 1083 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: don't let the discourse get you down. 1084 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: That's it. I think he needs that right now. I 1085 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I think he's getting beat up a little. 1086 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 6: Bit, but well timed talk, because he could be at 1087 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 6: the point where, no matter what he's accomplished or any 1088 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 6: what anyone's told him and what he's read about himself, 1089 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 6: that there could be a little bit of a imposter 1090 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 6: syndrome setting. You're a little bit old, you're staring out windows, 1091 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 6: the phone's not ringing. Everyone thought you were a home 1092 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 6: run for this job. You get passed over for someone 1093 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 6: you know, thirty years younger. 1094 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to stick them in the nursing home. 1095 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 2: Like he's junior soprano, Like you're not corrato, like you 1096 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 2: still have something to give. And then people pile on 1097 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: by saying he's money, he's power hungry, and of course 1098 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 2: you pass on a minute's power hungry because he didn't 1099 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 2: make mac Jones a champion. It's like, give him a chance, 1100 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 2: give him one more chance. I want to see him 1101 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: coach again. 1102 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 3: Then maybe he can finally experience success. 1103 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: Right. I told you it's conflicting for me. I don't 1104 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: need you know. 1105 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 5: I want to see him coach again. I think he 1106 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 5: could do a great job. When I watched him this year. 1107 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 5: I love Belichick. I've read all the books about him, 1108 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 5: Like I consider myself like a Belichick a file, like 1109 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 5: he's my guy even more than Brady was during that 1110 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 5: during that run, I really saw a coach this year. 1111 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 5: I think that knew exactly where he is in history, 1112 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 5: was fine with it. Wasn't enjoying what was going on there, 1113 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 5: but absolutely was able to celebrate where his place in 1114 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 5: the history of the game is and who he is 1115 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 5: as a patriot, all this stuff. And I think he's 1116 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 5: very comfortable with himself, and maybe he couldn't see in 1117 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 5: this cycle a vision of like him not running everything. 1118 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 5: And I totally understand why owner owners would he hesitant 1119 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 5: to do that. It's like same thing like no one 1120 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 5: hired Tom Landry after Dallas after the Cowboys. You think 1121 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 5: you don't think he was like a better coach than 1122 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 5: some of the people that but like, no, he was 1123 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 5: Tom Landry and he was going to take everything that 1124 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 5: Tom Landry was with him. And a year away from 1125 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 5: the game, I think might be great for Bill Belichick 1126 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 5: the coach, Like even if he wants to come back 1127 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 5: and coach next year, being able to look at the 1128 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 5: whole league and take. 1129 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: A step back. 1130 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 5: He's such a football genius that this I think could 1131 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 5: give him like a different perspective. Whether he wants to 1132 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 5: do a little bit of TV or not, We'll see. 1133 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 5: He'll make that into his own sort of Belichi, what 1134 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 5: changes one year from now? 1135 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: If you're saying part of the issue why people might 1136 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: not want him is because he wants to do it 1137 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: his own way. Is he not a year from now, 1138 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: after a year the game going to say I don't 1139 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 2: need to moderation. 1140 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe just the right option comes up and people 1141 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 5: are a year removed, or maybe he changes or he 1142 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 5: has different ideas of what he would do, or maybe 1143 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 5: he takes away some of the requirements, like in terms 1144 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 5: of control and everything. 1145 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, it would be fun to see him, to. 1146 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 2: Hear from him cry again, I really would love to 1147 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 2: hear from him if there was someone in the media 1148 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: that he trusted and just a or if he did 1149 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 2: a press conference. I know this isn't his style, but 1150 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 2: I just feel like there's so many things being affixed 1151 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 2: to him, what he wants and what he demands, and 1152 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 2: we don't really know anything. 1153 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 5: CBS Sports Jonathan Jones said several sources expect Belichip to 1154 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 5: take a job in television, which would indicate there's probably 1155 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 5: been some back door talking. And one quote this really 1156 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 5: made left. Every network would want him. He would revolutionize 1157 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 5: media with the way he prepares. I mean, okay, that's 1158 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 5: what But he was great with Tariko before the Super Bowl. 1159 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 5: That's the role I could see him in these little 1160 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 5: parts where he just sort of does a Belichick telestrator. 1161 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: He's Sunday, He's not. 1162 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 5: City on the tell, but even maybe he does one 1163 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 5: Sunday but it's just a Belichick's segment. 1164 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: He was a. 1165 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 4: Totally different person than I have ever seen in NFL atmospheres. 1166 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 4: When he was on College Game Day on ESPN this year, 1167 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 4: on the set, I didn't I was like, is this 1168 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 4: his twin brother? Who is this person that is sitting 1169 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 4: up there in Bill Belichick's body. He was smiling, he 1170 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 4: was laughing, he was making jokes. He was all in 1171 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 4: like he was. They were giving him stuff to do 1172 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 4: and he was buying in. He was yes, anding everything 1173 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 4: like he was. He looked like he was happy and 1174 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 4: he was in his element doing that. Now, maybe he's 1175 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 4: happy when he's on the sidelines in New England when 1176 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't look like it, maybe he's happy on the inside. 1177 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 4: But this really looked like he was glowing in that role. 1178 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 4: And I liked that for him. I liked I liked 1179 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 4: him there like it just seemed. 1180 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: Right for him. 1181 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 5: Brady and Belichick and the Fox both together, right, that'd 1182 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 5: be awesome. 1183 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: Probably maybe it wouldn't be, but it'd be fun. You 1184 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: would have to watch who's the play by play guy 1185 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: you put with him. Let's just let's put it together 1186 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: right now. 1187 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 6: Well, Al, we should not be demoted on any level. 1188 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 2: But give me this old, this old krusty booth of 1189 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: Al Belichick and Brady. 1190 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: Let's go give me a couple of years, because this 1191 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 1: is only a year. 1192 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: By the way, this is he's I think he's going 1193 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: back into coaching eventually, I think. 1194 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 4: But but in the booth too, like that, I think 1195 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 4: that that role seeing him in that role would be 1196 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 4: so interesting because a lot of people haven't even seen 1197 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 4: him in like the happy I'm relaxed, I'm here to 1198 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 4: just hang out and talk about football, and I love 1199 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 4: it role, let alone calling a game role. 1200 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 6: I mean we get right back into the world of 1201 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 6: like which one or the other is lifting each other 1202 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 6: up and making them look better in front of the 1203 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1204 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: If that's true. I can't really work together. 1205 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: I do like the the the old Travolta movie Wild 1206 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: Hogs vibe of putting Al, Tom and Bill in the 1207 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 2: booth and be like, Hey, everyone thinks you're done all three. 1208 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 1: Al, you're washed. 1209 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 2: Bill, You're you have no personality, and nobody likes you. 1210 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: Tom like you. You're not cut out for this. You 1211 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 2: you don't deserve a number. 1212 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: One year off You're you're no Greg Olson. 1213 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 2: And you're no Gregil And then letting them revolutionize the 1214 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 2: sport or the broadcasting business. 1215 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, Greg wild Hogum. 1216 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 5: All right, we probably only have so much time, right 1217 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 5: We're doing this once? Yeah, one time around, Okay, because 1218 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 5: I've been starting to prep for a. 1219 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: Free agency list the off season stuff. 1220 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 3: You're right now during. 1221 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 5: The show, No getting up a drinking some egg yolks hardly, 1222 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 5: but I started to, you know, tinker with the list, 1223 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 5: and there's some around tires. 1224 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: There's some big tire. 1225 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 5: There's some big names out there that I think are 1226 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 5: going to get to this free agency period and they're 1227 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 5: going to be like a little disappointed. Guys like a 1228 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 5: Chase Young or an Austin Ecklor Devin White, guys who 1229 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 5: thought maybe going into this they were going to change 1230 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 5: their life with these big time contracts and they get 1231 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 5: there and it's a little disappointing. But I'm going to 1232 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 5: have the hardest talk with a free agent who's facing 1233 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 5: a different challenge. And it's really for the teams that 1234 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 5: are out there circling this free agent, and it's it's 1235 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 5: a little bit for you too, Dan, And it's for 1236 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 5: everyone that's getting ready to give Kirk Cousins one hundred 1237 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 5: million dollars guaranteed over for two years because I think 1238 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 5: he'll get that money and it and it's a little 1239 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 5: for Kirk too, because Kirk, the history of thirty six 1240 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 5: year old quarterbacks coming off a torn achilles tear expected 1241 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 5: to save a franchise, you know, is doesn't exist. It's 1242 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 5: a little for Aaron Rodgers too, the history of forty 1243 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 5: year old quarterbacks coming back from an achilles tear and 1244 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 5: expected to raise a franchise. But he's different, doesn't exist. 1245 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 5: It's different, Kirk like you. We've watched you on this show. 1246 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 5: The ups, the downs, and what I always remember with 1247 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 5: with Chris always a supporter of Kirk, and he was right. 1248 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: I think for about we were the kissing Cousin. 1249 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 5: For six games every season, pretty and I remember this 1250 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 5: as a qb INEX writer. For six games every season, 1251 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 5: he is like the fifth best quarterback. 1252 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: In the entire league. He's elite. 1253 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 5: And then other things happen. There's ups, there's downs, and 1254 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 5: I know Kirk was improving. It was in this system 1255 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 5: for Minnesota. Kirk Cousins, like you tore your achilles right 1256 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 5: at the pick of peak of those six games, and 1257 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 5: that's all anyone remembers. No one really remembers the ten 1258 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 5: years before that. There were there was ups, there were 1259 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 5: downs where you were very good. You were a better 1260 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 5: than average starting quarterback without a doubt, but you weren't 1261 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 5: like MVP conversation Kirk Cousins. 1262 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: The whole time. 1263 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 5: You were that for about a month every year, and 1264 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 5: you never knew when that month was gonna come, but 1265 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 5: it usually didn't last. Now you're thirty six years old 1266 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 5: and you're coming off a torn achilles. That to me 1267 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 5: is a massive red flag in the sense that if 1268 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 5: a rookie was coming in with a torn achilles, imagine 1269 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 5: how that would affect their draft stock. And yet teams 1270 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 5: aren't going to care. They're gonna watch those last six 1271 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 5: games of the season, see how excellent it was. Maybe 1272 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 5: it's gonna be Minnesota. And because quarterbacks are so underpaid, 1273 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 5: I believe like the value of Patrick Mahomes in a 1274 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 5: in a free market would be five hundred million dollars 1275 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 5: or something like that. Something bonkers that we can't even 1276 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 5: imagine that Kirk is going to get all this money, 1277 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 5: because it's very rare that these quarterbacks are actually available. 1278 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 5: But I think you got to have a hard conversation 1279 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 5: with yourself, Kirk, of who you're going to be coming 1280 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 5: back and teams who you expect him to be when 1281 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 5: he comes back before you pay him more money. And 1282 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 5: he's probably gonna cost more money than justin Herbert and 1283 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 5: all these guys on a year to year base. 1284 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 6: So you're not suggesting that Cousins pull back the reins 1285 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 6: and say, I don't need as much. 1286 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: Now takewa you hear talking, What are you going to 1287 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: do talking to the team. Yes, But just like the talcons. 1288 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 5: Don't necessarily believe that you're gonna come in and you're 1289 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 5: gonna be at that level that you were at before. 1290 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do. 1291 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 6: He doesn't strike me as someone like, you know, drenched 1292 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 6: in hubris to begin now like. 1293 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 5: But expectation wise, I just feel like everyone saying, Okay, 1294 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 5: let's slot in Kirk Cousins, and he's that guy when 1295 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 5: he's either joining a new team or he's. 1296 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Coming off a torn achilles. It's just a lot to ask. 1297 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, new team or maybe not new team, new offense, 1298 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 2: new expectations, all that stuff. But he, you know, he's 1299 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 2: no stranger to being doubted himself, whether it was in 1300 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Washington or Minnesota going into this year, you know, Minnesota 1301 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 2: actively letting it be known that we're not looking to 1302 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: do more business with you, and then he went out 1303 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 2: and was playing maybe the best ball of his career 1304 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 2: before the injury. I think he's a little different than 1305 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers because he is, you know, four or five 1306 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: years younger, even Testa Verdi or had an achilles came back, 1307 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 2: wasn't the same he was I think thirty seven or 1308 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: thirty eight by that point. He's not a guy that's 1309 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 2: known for being an explosive athlete to start with. He's, 1310 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: you know, part of a dying breed, almost of a 1311 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: pocket passer. So I think you have things working to 1312 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 2: his advantage. Now, would it be an overpay if he's 1313 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 2: a slightly lesser version of what he was previously, Yes, 1314 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: but what he instantly, in my mind, still brings stability. 1315 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: To your quarterback position. 1316 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Also, yes, it's yeah, there's some buyer beware, but I 1317 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: would live with it if I were a team that 1318 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 2: if I had Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky, uh and 1319 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph in house to use that Steelers example again, 1320 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 2: or Desmond Ritter or Sam Howe, like like a. 1321 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 6: Two year deal we're talking about here, you're not signing 1322 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 6: away like the rest of time. 1323 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: I guess it would depend on what his market is. 1324 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, two three year deal, I'd still do it. 1325 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: I guess that is what I'm saying. But there's absolutely 1326 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: a chance that. 1327 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 6: I could be One thing I like about what you 1328 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 6: said though it's like the teams are just glued watching 1329 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 6: his tape, his high at the high end of his 1330 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,479 Speaker 6: tape from last season. 1331 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: It's like his health is a complete unknown. 1332 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Like your pept know that your pep talk could also 1333 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 2: equally and maybe more appropriately be directed at these teams. 1334 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Anything really is where I would be. 1335 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 2: But that's but Kirk's He'll be a little bit confused 1336 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 2: when you're saying to him at the same time to 1337 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 2: be like Greg, they're all good points. 1338 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: What do you want like me to do? I'm not 1339 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: sure I have played the colleagden artists. I've played the 1340 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: colleat and role of not really understanding the assignment. 1341 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: But it's it's good, it's interesting. So he's an unre 1342 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 2: strictly free agent. He is Is he number one? He's 1343 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: not going to be number one. 1344 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: It's a quarterback. 1345 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 2: I would think I would have built in and if 1346 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 2: the value like in terms of I. 1347 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 5: Have a hard time with Chris, Joe, Josh, there's there's 1348 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 5: a I don't know. 1349 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: I guess I haven't. 1350 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 5: Fully discied dout not till February. When's the last time 1351 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 5: Chris Jones is in the mix. Josh Allen from the 1352 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 5: Jaguars is in the mix. Kirk's obviously in the mix. 1353 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: But if Cousins is Cousins, he's, well, I don't. 1354 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 2: Know, injury her Cousins was playing at a top what 1355 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 2: eight level as a quarterback and now he's a free 1356 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 2: agent injury. 1357 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Wait, who's the last time there was a big name 1358 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. That's what I was. I was looking for Cousins. 1359 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: That was the last time it's happened or something good. 1360 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 5: I think he was number one, like on the list 1361 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 5: that actually gets put out when free agency starts. Usually 1362 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 5: there's this first list where it's like Lamar Jackson was 1363 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 5: number one last year because he technically was. 1364 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: What about the pretenders that put out a similar list? 1365 01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Where are they put in Kirk? 1366 01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Right now? 1367 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 3: We don't talk about them. 1368 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:01,479 Speaker 1: I don't. 1369 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 5: My process is I do not look at those, and 1370 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,959 Speaker 5: I do look at them the minute I have my list, 1371 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 5: and then I think, oh, okay, that's interesting that I 1372 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 5: miss anyone, But I do not want to look until. 1373 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: I have it all right, Mark close it out for us. 1374 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 6: I did not misunderstand the assignment, but I took it 1375 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 6: less as a pep talk. 1376 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: And more as a warning to yourself. 1377 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 6: And it's not based on the fan base of this team, 1378 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 6: who I think have been through hell. They've seen their 1379 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 6: team relocated, they have been let down a year after year, 1380 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 6: They've been overly pumped up as a team that's going 1381 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 6: to go to the super Bowl almost every summer, and 1382 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 6: they find a way to undress it. 1383 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Well, we've all done it. Everyone's guilty of it. 1384 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 6: This is directed at the team that I find already 1385 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 6: to be on my radar. 1386 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: It is the Chargers. 1387 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 6: You hire Jim Harbaugh, great job, great move, way to 1388 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 6: regalvanize your marketing, everything else. But the attitude around some 1389 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 6: of what I'm seeing has me a little annoyed, and 1390 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 6: I think it has to the fans. I wish the 1391 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 6: fans all the good, so don't confuse that. That's all 1392 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 6: i'd say to the team and to the people messaging 1393 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 6: what this off season means, because we go through this 1394 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 6: with one or two teams every off season and it 1395 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 6: usually ends in total wreckage. I would say this, Chargers, 1396 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 6: don't over celebrate. Okay, took a couple bullet points here. 1397 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: I love it. 1398 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 6: Don't caress yourselves and put special oils on your forehead 1399 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 6: just yet. Settle down your social media team. Stop naming 1400 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,919 Speaker 6: pets after Jim Harbaugh. Go stark and spartan and dark 1401 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 6: and work in the shadows. Become pure evil. Take out 1402 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 6: the enemy with a complete lack of mercy and restraint. 1403 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 6: Destroy houses and townships. Don't even view children as vulnerable. 1404 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 6: Animals are your enemy too. Rip roads and highways to shreds. 1405 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 6: Pull fruit off fruit trees and burn it in stinking piles. 1406 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Destroy books and films. 1407 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 6: Celebrating anything in your way, less self celebratory tweeting, and 1408 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, before you've accomplished a single particle of good, 1409 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 6: before you tell us how great it all is in essence, 1410 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 6: be everything the Chargers have never been, or leave. 1411 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Us be go do it? Do you have a kid? 1412 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 1: Kill kids in there? 1413 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 6: I said, don't assume the kids are vulnerable or innocence, something. 1414 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: Like why the fruit trees? 1415 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: What wreckage anything in your way? 1416 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 6: Enough with telling us now on Twitter that everything's perfect 1417 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 6: Like you these teams. I get what they're doing, and 1418 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 6: it's mostly for children or gullibles, but like, settle down 1419 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 6: with yourselves, go start five and oh and we down 1420 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes. 1421 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: And we also push that out to. 1422 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 2: People who celebrate the Chargers a lot and just be like, 1423 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 2: do we have to hear it again now this summer? 1424 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 3: Yes, to celebrate though, but. 1425 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: This is like Jets Aaron Rodgers heart k but this 1426 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: year is different, right? 1427 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 6: But this to me was a targeted attack, an isolated 1428 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 6: attack on the team itself. And then I hope the 1429 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 6: media would understand to take on tell. 1430 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: You why it will not. 1431 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 5: My takeaway here is Mark needs to mute the Chargers 1432 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 5: account for our mental health. 1433 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so I'll tell you why it's different than instance, 1434 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 2: the Jets had hard knocks Greg because nobody was pumping 1435 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 2: up that team before Rogers got there. We've been hearing 1436 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers get pumped up for years and years for 1437 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 2: different reasons. 1438 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 5: App the Chargers like making their little av I Harbaugh 1439 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 5: and doing funny little Harbor videos. 1440 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 6: I don't even think Jim Harbaugh would like that or 1441 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 6: really want that. 1442 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: Harbor doesn't even know the Internet, and I think I know. 1443 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: But his thing isn't let's come and anoint me and 1444 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: put it on your overall game. 1445 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 5: He kind of is like he went on CBS and 1446 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 5: he was like, I was starstruck meeting Justin Herbert. He 1447 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 5: is kind of like a hype creator. Not on purpose, 1448 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 5: but he just naturally. 1449 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,479 Speaker 1: That guy let. 1450 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 6: Him do it without telling us that he's already done it. 1451 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 6: But I don't need to hear that. You're starstruck by 1452 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert. Just make him a star. 1453 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 3: Are they going to be on hard knocks? 1454 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,919 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, well wait, new coach though new coach. 1455 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 6: I thought that they Yeah, but they can't they kill that. No, 1456 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 6: they didn't kill it, but a team can volunteer. It 1457 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 6: suggests they will at this point. 1458 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 2: They probably, But you're saying you don't want them to 1459 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 2: that this is that would be a perfect example of 1460 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 2: don't go on. 1461 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 6: Hard I actually would want that time about the act. 1462 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 6: That's a whole separate thing. But that would be a spicy, 1463 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 6: juicy access. We're going to manifest it, all right. 1464 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: I like it burning the fruit. I liked killing the kids, 1465 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,439 Speaker 1: not as I didn't say kill kids. I said the text. 1466 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 6: Don't even view children, destroy houses and townships. Don't even 1467 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 6: view children as vulnerable. Don't be fooled by a child? 1468 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 2: Are they saying I destroy everything, including children who don't 1469 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 2: view them as don't they assume vulnerable? 1470 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Right? They may be in your way. They may fool you. 1471 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they may lure this. 1472 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 2: If I was a little confused, there's probably other people 1473 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 2: that'd be like, what about kids? 1474 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Well, but now now you've clarified that. 1475 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 6: Even so, I'm not saying you shouldn't view children as vulnerable. 1476 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 6: The Chargers should not. That's also it was. It's not 1477 01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 6: a societal message. 1478 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 1: What about Phil Rivers's children. There's that's an army. It's 1479 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 1: not attached to the it's not attached to the organization. 1480 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: At this point, well, he's like. 1481 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 6: A member of their Ring of Honor, and then it 1482 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 6: applies to his children if you're the Chargers, not Philip Rivers. 1483 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 6: All right, they're not above suspicion, trust no one. They're 1484 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 6: not above suspicion. Right, Not totally clear, but I'm with you, 1485 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 6: says dog. Thank you mostly got another updated. All right, 1486 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 6: here's here's the situation. 1487 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 2: By the way, voting closed on that award over overseas 1488 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: and they're announcing a winner on Thursday. 1489 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 3: Oh wow, did you guys vote for yourselves or no? 1490 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 5: No, of course not no. Get to give them an email, uncouth. 1491 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 5: It is one of those things. 1492 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this, Mark, I know you're resolute 1493 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 2: as a person, stand by it. If we do not 1494 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 2: win that award, you will not have Dan and Mark 1495 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 2: on the show. And those that want a solo Greg 1496 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 2: around the NFL, they're. 1497 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Gonna get it. You're gonna get it. So well. 1498 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 2: The only problem, well know, by right, I'm being in 1499 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 2: real time. What we we made it clear last week. 1500 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 2: We said, if if you don't vote us the victors 1501 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 2: of this particular contest, we're going to Mexico or somewhere else. 1502 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,719 Speaker 1: And then we said, do you want to join us too? Greg? 1503 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: And Greg goes now, so now you're staying here show 1504 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: ten nominees. 1505 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 3: I think I remember this. I was here for. 1506 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I we asked you if you wanted 1507 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 2: to join us in the walkout you. 1508 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,719 Speaker 3: Did calling to Mexico. 1509 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 5: Well, I just assumed it's not too late. Do you 1510 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 5: want to join us when when there's ten nominees? 1511 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,879 Speaker 3: Don't love that attitude. 1512 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 1: The only problem with this call to action happening right now. 1513 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 6: People now are spurred like I don't want too late, 1514 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 6: too late voting. 1515 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 1: So we did give them a week, we did. 1516 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 6: I we could have put it out on different platforms 1517 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 6: if we really if we're just leaving, but we are 1518 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 6: leaving the show. 1519 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I will leave the show. 1520 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 3: Lessons we're learned. 1521 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: I mean we could if you want to. No, no, no, no, 1522 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: your word. We said it. We're leaving. We will leave. 1523 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no empty threats. 1524 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Here, Where are we gonna go? Wait? I can still 1525 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: take Colleen right north or Satric. 1526 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 3: I might be going with them. 1527 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: Though, Greg take the ambition and take it under the tape. 1528 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 6: Is already formulating a new lineup. 1529 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: See who's available at least? Oh my god, it's so real. 1530 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 1: All right, I've seen Bill Barnwell at the moment, Bill, 1531 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I think they lost. 1532 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 2: I voted against them. All Right, here we go. We'll 1533 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 2: be back on Thursday. It is the annual don't say 1534 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 2: super Bowl show. So if you're already sick, if you're 1535 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 2: annoyed about the teams in the game, you just want 1536 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 2: to talk about something else to connect to the NFL, 1537 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 2: that's your show either Connie, thank you, Yeah, you've said 1538 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 2: it all. 1539 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: We'll do it again. Let's do it again. Heed the call.