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Speaker 1: Would I be the a hole for telling my husband

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Speaker 1: a relationship are inexcusable, and it comes from either divide

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Speaker 1: my husband to stop being friends with one of his

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Speaker 1: best friends? My female twenty seven husband male twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: We have a very happy and healthy marriage with great

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Speaker 1: communication and minimal fighting. Every time they say how great

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Speaker 1: the relationship is trible, you just know you know what's

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Speaker 1: about that again? It's it's in kitchen nightmares. Every time

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Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsy goes to a restaurant and he's like, how's

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Speaker 1: the food at attends, You're like eleven, it's a nuclear

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Speaker 1: wasist zone. Yeah, one hundred percent. I don't say that

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Speaker 1: My husband and I started dating when we were seventeen

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Speaker 1: became close friends with Adam. When my husband and I

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Speaker 1: began to date again, when I moved back to our

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Speaker 1: hometown city, Adam was very cold to me. I shrugged

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Speaker 1: it off as oh, well, he met my husband during

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Speaker 1: our breakup. I'm sure he'll come around later. But eight

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Speaker 2: That's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Do you cut off people who hate on your partner?

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Speaker 1: I say yes, oh yeah, if they don't respect your partner.

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Speaker 1: That's literally you want to talk about best friends.

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Speaker 2: It depends on how long they've been together, being long,

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Speaker 1: But for years Adam has never started a conversation with me,

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Speaker 1: be best friends, but we're adults. Can we at least

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Speaker 1: act cordial? Adam and OPI dated while back, right, No, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 1: well so yeah, basically Opie and her husband have been

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Speaker 1: they were boys from like freshman year of college during

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Speaker 1: their breakup period, right, But then when they got back together,

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Speaker 1: you know what they met at college. He's not familiar

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 1: Eight years later, it's not happening.

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Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Okay, happening? Yep, there it is

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Speaker 2: love getting bad. Wolf is about to say it conspiracy, dude.

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Speaker 1: That's it. He's he's in love with Obi's husband. He's

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Speaker 1: in love. He doesn't a he don't want to share.

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Speaker 1: Finders, keepers, losers, weepers, that's what Adam's saying. Well, Adam

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Speaker 1: You can't be an a hole to because your significant other.

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Speaker 1: very far away. I just said thank you for saying that,

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Speaker 1: effing kidding me? It took you years for you to

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Speaker 1: stand up for me a little too late. But I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smart. You know, give yourself a beat to

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I think we have a clear answer here.

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Speaker 2: We have a clear answer here.

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Speaker 1: Cut Adam out, Cut him out, cut at him out

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Speaker 1: He brings nothing to the table and low key like

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Speaker 1: the fact that the husband continued to prioritize him and basically,

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Speaker 1: ten years. Imagine being forced to be around someone for

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Speaker 1: I don't blame Op for being mad at the husband.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't respect your life. And following following the theory,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so true, so true. I so confused while the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just a classic case of over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but ten years, what.

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Speaker 1: Is a reasonable time frame?

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Speaker 1: I feel like a few months just to be months,

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Speaker 2: I was friends with someone for a few months and

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Speaker 2: I realized like every time one was around them, felt bad,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the move.

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Speaker 2: Do this. Life too short to have people you hate

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Speaker 2: One dude's doing Apple five million dollars because he deleted

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Speaker 2: So this man, yeah, we'll find it. But this man

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, dude, this is so sad. We are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get some hearts of the chat. Get

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Speaker 1: Chat for in the comments for for not an a

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Speaker 1: Just leave him, leave him literally. Everyone Dump these stinky parts, everyone,

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 1: Why are we giving them these all of these second chances?

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Speaker 1: They're way too stinky. If you love us, make sure

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Speaker 3: We love you and see it who This is an

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Speaker 3: episode from Deep Within the Archives time for okop Rewam.

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Speaker 1: It's just crazy because how can I be homophobic? My

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Speaker 3: Can't believe this dad kicked him out the back door

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Speaker 1: He's a little He's like the Socrates of getting in trouble,

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Speaker 1: do things with him all of his life. Put him

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00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: into extracurriculars, spend time with him, be interested in his hobbies,

439
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: no matter what they were. I've tried, and he always

440
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: lashes out and pushed back on me.

441
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 3: Did you really try to be interested in everything? He

442
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 3: was interested in everything everything because a good father would

443
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 3: do that.

444
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he would. Yeah, he like the good dad

445
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 1: daddy he's supposed to be. I've gotten to therapy myself,

446
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: and nothing has worked. My man is literally running that off. Yeah.

447
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like.

448
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: He's always ungrateful to anything I did. He'd wanted to

449
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: join a dance class. I got him enrolled in a

450
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: class that I could afford on my salary. Then he

451
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: would tell me I'm abusive because I wouldn't put him

452
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: in the expensive ones.

453
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: Abusive. That's a little bit, said tweet. It's much last

454
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: see wanted to drive.

455
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I bought him a car and taught him how to drive,

456
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: but the car was too crappy and embarrassing. The clothes

457
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: I bought, same thing. No matter how hard I've tried,

458
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: nothing has been good enough for him.

459
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Seems like he's in grateful little ship. I mean, he

460
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: just he just ain't ain't happy with his daddy. He

461
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: might need a new daddy happy.

462
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: You catch what I drift?

463
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

464
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: Penis in the butt?

465
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: Penis in the butt, penis in the butts? A penis

466
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: in the butt?

467
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: Yep. On Brilliant Idiots, there was one line where someone

468
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: was like this, this dude's dig big as hell, and

469
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: then they took that and they made a whole fire

470
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: song out of it where it was like.

471
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: Big big, big, big, big big.

472
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: No matter how hard I've tried, nothing has been good

473
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: enough for him. On top of that, he's stolen from me,

474
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: lied to me on numerous occasions, spread lies in rumors

475
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: to his mom, teachers, and friends about my supposed horrible

476
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: treatment of him. He's nineteen years old and blames me

477
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: for every little thing that ever goes wrong in his life,

478
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: and his mother always echoes it.

479
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: Dude, this kid is the worst bro. My man can't win.

480
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: Although I do wonder really why aborsn't exist.

481
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: Jesus, But it's like there's always two sides of the story.

482
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: So I do wonder if he's like I mean again,

483
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: he seems like he's like doing what he can, you know.

484
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: But but maybe he's like giving him a car and

485
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: then like, I don't know, making him drive through a

486
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: lake or something.

487
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: I mean, just like it kind of just sounds like

488
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: normal teenage anks, or like it's somewhat normal teenage anks.

489
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: Like I hate you, Dad, But is there is there

490
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: more juice?

491
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. It seems like we're in the middle

492
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: of the first squeeze. So give me those balls and

493
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 3: all their tuglans. See how squeezy big boy milk he

494
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: can get.

495
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: So six months ago everything reached a boiling point. He

496
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: asked me if he could borrow my car to go

497
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: do something. I told him no because I had to

498
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: go to the office late to get things ready for

499
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: the morning. While it was in the shower, he stole

500
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: the keys to my car. He refused to answer any

501
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 1: of my calls. All through the night. Dad is literally

502
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: calling him one am, two am, three am. Oh nothing,

503
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: this is shitty. Nothing sucks. In the morning, some random

504
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: vehicle just dropped him off out front and I asked him,

505
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: where's the car? I asked him where my car was?

506
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Where is it?

507
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: No? Is it at the bottom of the lake. No,

508
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: it's not. Doesn't this kid have his own shitty car.

509
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 1: We thought maybe he got rid of it. I don't know,

510
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: this is this is crazy. He told me to f off.

511
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: He had obviously been drinking and he went straight to sleep.

512
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: When he woke up, I found out that he had

513
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: completely wrecked the car. Totaled, no, donezo, No, he had

514
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: hit a parked vehicle. A parked vehicle. Bro, how do

515
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: you read you wrecking a car hitting a parked vehicle.

516
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: That's like you're faster, You're going fast, crazy, reckless.

517
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, insane. We had to take in the account that

518
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: he was drunk exactly come some slack.

519
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: Jaw, and on top of the insurance cost raise an

520
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: insurance after the collision, I also had to pay a

521
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: towing fee for my now destroyed car. We got into

522
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: a huge argument where he let me know everything he

523
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: thought about me and what a horrible piece of duty dad,

524
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: I am.

525
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: I really want to hear what this kid is saying.

526
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: I truly want to know. I really really really.

527
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: Want to know, because this kid sounds like a complete amiac.

528
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Bro, Like if all of this is true, like this

529
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: kid is insane.

530
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like I wonder it seems like the

531
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: dad has him on a pretty tight leash, but you

532
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: know your leash is only as tight as it can

533
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: be for like both parents, right, And so the other

534
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: parent is completely like laissez fair and doesn't give a shit,

535
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: like the kid's gonna be wild all the time.

536
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: Then, man, this is this is this is narsty. The

537
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: argument ended with ME kicking him out and him going

538
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: to stay with his mother. After two days of radio silence,

539
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: I get a nasty text from his mama. Apparently what

540
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: he told or happened is that he came out to

541
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: me and that I blew up and kicked him out

542
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: for being gay.

543
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: What bro, this kid is a liar, a big fat

544
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: dang bro.

545
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: And it's so sad because it's like, dude, so many

546
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: people struggle with that, Like you're like hemping it out

547
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: for your own Like, good ravy, bro, that's so bad.

548
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: He's like, not only is that TRD for the entire community,

549
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, when you start like using it as a weapon,

550
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: it's just it sucks up everyone you know that actually

551
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: trying to do trying to do that.

552
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I was pissed, understandable, not because he was gay.

553
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: That had actually been very obvious since he hit puberty.

554
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: If not even earlier, though he never personally brought it

555
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: up to me, just the sheer victim lying be asked

556
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: that he had done his entire life just hit me

557
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: all at once. I didn't reply for a day after

558
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: a steady stream of more abusive messages from his mom

559
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: calling me a monster, piece of crap, abusive, ahole, et cetera,

560
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: et cetera, and he informed me that she called my

561
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: work to let them know what a homophobe I am.

562
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Why are you trusting this little asshole? Bro? You know

563
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: what I think? You know what he has to do now,

564
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: he has to come out with a chart topping single.

565
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: How can I'd be homophobic?

566
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: My son is gay? Even my stick want to see

567
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: a man topless? Good bravy. Something in me with this

568
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: last thing just made my last bit of empathy snap.

569
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: It's it's go time, it's go time. Let's hear this

570
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: for the record. I'm not homophobic. My son is gay,

571
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: having even had a gay experience myself in high school.

572
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: But something in me just snapped, Okay, he's got he's

573
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: got a little inside. He's got a little inside here.

574
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Interesting. I like that. I like that edition.

575
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, spicy detail, spicy detail, I wrote back, confirming

576
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: what he said to her as true. He embraced being

577
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: the homophobe. Why wait, I'm confused. We're it's gonna it's

578
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna become clear.

579
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: So there's some forty chess going on here that I'm

580
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: very excited chess bro I have no idea where this

581
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: is going.

582
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I wrote back and said I couldn't morally accept him

583
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: back into my house and that I was essentially disowning him.

584
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: How him being gay just wasn't something I could ever overcome.

585
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: I was just sick of defending myself from relentless bs

586
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: and saying this felt free.

587
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: WHOA.

588
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: My texts got put online by both him and my

589
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: ex wife and spread like wildfire on my social media,

590
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: and I've lost some friends and family while gaining others

591
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: secret support, which is going to be It's a weird,

592
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: interesting twist in this.

593
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: Wait, like because he's just like saying, oh, I'm a homophobe, and.

594
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: He's literally embraced it, and they blasted him online, and

595
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: so now everybody is basically finding out that he's claiming

596
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: to disown his own son for coming out, and he's

597
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: doing it so that way the sun is out of

598
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: his life.

599
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: But it's like torching his reputation.

600
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: He's bro He's just right in that.

601
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: Ball, straight into that. That's insane. That's like an insanc level

602
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: of commitment. Dude. I salute to you, sir.

603
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Also, I have another theory on this, but I will

604
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: I'll save it till I'll save it to the end.

605
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: Dude. That's that's I'm just baffled that he leaned into it.

606
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I know it's it's completely insane. It was rough for

607
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: a bit, but even with that public crucifixion, I feel happy,

608
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: like I can breathe again now. My son sent me

609
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: messages and tried calling me, but I just reiterated what

610
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I said to his mother that I didn't agree with

611
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: his new lifestyle, and I figured it could be another

612
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: thing where he could just be a victim about and

613
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: he could stay angry at me and just stay out

614
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: of my life for good. After a while, he stopped

615
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: trying to reach out. This this part is really weird.

616
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: My boss pulled me aside to talk to me about

617
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: everything that's been going on, and he congratulated me on

618
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: taking a stand against degeneracy and that my job wasn't

619
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: at jeopardy.

620
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to a part of the country this

621
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: is in well because if you if this was happened

622
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: in La, let me tell you, the response would be

623
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: swift and pointed as it should be. For like, I

624
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: feel like, like, you know, bro.

625
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: If someone disowns their own shy.

626
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: You're being gays that that is ridiculous. I am concerned

627
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: by the I'm what I'm concerned about is the outpouring

628
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: of support for op That's what I'm saying, and the

629
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: leaning into it, like it almost feels like.

630
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: He you're you're touching on I think my my theory.

631
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Fuck, maybe he's the a hole. He might be the

632
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: a hole. There's more to the story, dude. This this

633
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: reeks of a side of the story not being told

634
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: right Ship, We'll see this is like a murder mystery

635
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: really transformed to ship. Okay, okay, wait, what's going on?

636
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm very I'm very very I was like, fuck, okay,

637
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: what's going on here?

638
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: I was also forced to sit through some Bible thumping

639
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: conservative rant about how the state of the world is

640
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: going terrible but he can't say anything about it because

641
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: of snowflakes or some damn kids.

642
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: People can't why can't I say my homophobic anymore?

643
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: Why can't I be homophobic?

644
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: That's their song, that's their dude terribly, I don't like

645
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: that an.

646
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: That's that's that's not a banger. After that, he's been

647
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: really nice to me and even giving me a better

648
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: position in the company with a pay race.

649
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: Come on, like this ship is so I think Op

650
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: is doing this on purpose?

651
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Oh, because he would know he probably know he knows

652
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: his boss probably. Yeah, I didn't even I never even contemplated.

653
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: Totally like if you were in LA or even like

654
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: the reason that he's okay with all this coming out

655
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: and losing friends because he actually thinks this. I'm like almost.

656
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Certain now because also I didn't even think about this

657
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: when I first read it. But he knows who his

658
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: boss is. He probably knows.

659
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: How his boss is going to react exactly. So this

660
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: is all like I'm very also interested. Like the reddit comments, yes,

661
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: we can read some of those.

662
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I plan to use my new position to

663
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: negotiate a good salary at a new company. Look at

664
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: you turning turning your hate into more career opportunity. Yeah,

665
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: a low.

666
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: Key man is kind of having a huge come up,

667
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: Like huge kids like the cancel. Come up, Bro, it's

668
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: an evil come up.

669
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Really, this is Bultimore sorgu Bro. Whoa, Oh my god.

670
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to stay working for someone with

671
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: these crappy views and opinions. Plus he won't stop inviting

672
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: me to his stupid events. I think he's virtue signaling

673
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: for Reddit, like I think he's just yeah, I think

674
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: he's trying to manipulate. Yeah, he's trying to manipulate this.

675
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Basically we're to be manipulated. I smelled ship all over

676
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: this post.

677
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: There's ship smell diarrhea spread all over this like there

678
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: was There was a giant piled diarrhea shat right in

679
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: to the middle of this post, and then op used

680
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: to squeegee and just wow.

681
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: In layer I would have noticed the thin layer of ship.

682
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: No, I see behind that thin layer of ship, and

683
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: I see the ship that you are.

684
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: That's right. I think your piece of ship, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

685
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, your piece of ship.

686
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I will hold my ship talking for the end

687
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: of this. All in all, things couldn't have worked out

688
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: better for me.

689
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, brother, fu yo, I don't think I've ever switched

690
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: so hard. Sorry, so hard, bro.

691
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I will remain closeted LGBTQ plus supporter, and my son

692
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: can stay the heck away from me and spread his

693
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: narrative about how I kicked him out for being gay.

694
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: Sorry for the long post. I had a lot more

695
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: I could have added, but it was already a lot.

696
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: How could you summarize an entire child's life?

697
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: Bullshit ys bs bspss.

698
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: He's a BS artist like he has artist is literally

699
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: like he's like, okay, they like expose my true colors.

700
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I mean it is a chess move. He's like,

701
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna craft this whole other narrative and.

702
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: Like you see it sharing it on socials.

703
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Get get people back on my side, and oh this

704
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: would be super evil because he he was like, all right,

705
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: this is what if he played this in advance. He

706
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: knew he could get the like the promotion and like

707
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff from the boss and like get that support,

708
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: gets that, and then he comes out with this redist

709
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: story basically like relieving him of you know these allegations.

710
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Man is manipulative as fuck.

711
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Okay, now if he even had that experience in high

712
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: school that he mentioned, because that is a powerful detail

713
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to because remember how we were like, oh wow, okay,

714
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: that changes things, you know what I mean?

715
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it, we got it, Like I think

716
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: we will think this, but like we can't be the

717
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: only ones, right what are the comments saying? Let's see? Yeah,

718
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: all right, I guess we just got to hear from

719
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: the comments like does this does something about this feel

720
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: fishy to you? But maybe we're overreading it and like

721
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: like overanalyzing it and there's nothing to miss here. But

722
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: this sounds pretty fucking fishy, and so if you think

723
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: it's fishy, commet fish below. Let it bro I want

724
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: to see an ocean. I want to see an ocean.

725
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Ocean speaking of things that are vast and incredible like oceans.

726
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh what what? What are you speaking?

727
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: There is a great place where people can share their stories.

728
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Is there? Where is that place?

729
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: R slash okay o piece show. That's right, Go to

730
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: our subreddit, our slash okop show. Share your stories with

731
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: us and we read it right here on this.

732
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: Podcast, right here, right now, Like this could be your

733
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: story if you literally freaking in something that's your little

734
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: little cock muffin.

735
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Why are you holding your stories back?

736
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: Just just let them out, let them out? Right onto

737
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: our mouths. We speak them back up.

738
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: We're just leaning in so so hard and long.

739
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: Today I FD up by making my dad punch a

740
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: dancer of the poll in GTA and then having him

741
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: ask for forgiveness from God in front.

742
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: Of the entire family. Wait wow, in front of the

743
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: entire family, like the entire family. Okay, okay, let's see

744
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: where this goes.

745
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: Let me try that one more time. Yes, I was

746
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: encouraged to post this here from a comment I made elsewhere,

747
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: even though it didn't happen today or even this decade,

748
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: So mods please remove it if it goes against the rules.

749
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 3: It's a funny story though. When I was young, my

750
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: brothers and I snuck a copy of San Andreas into

751
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: the house class we spent. Yeah, dude, that game was

752
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: so good, so good. I would always play Said Andrea's

753
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: at my friend's house because my parents play video games.

754
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Sae well, uh bad rated video game?

755
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could play video rated yeah or MA or

756
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: m see.

757
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: We don't even know bad.

758
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: We are playing video games. We spent days hold in

759
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: our basement taking turns playing and down there. My parents

760
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: didn't bother us too much in order to get tons

761
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: of money for guns. We had yet to figure out

762
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: my parents dial up passwords, so cheats Swart the thing

763
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: for us. Yet what we would do is we go

764
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: to the strip club and stand on stage absorbing the

765
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: money dudes throughout women and just let the games sit

766
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: for ten or twenty minutes. That's a great hat.

767
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: I love that, and I also love like just if

768
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: someone doesn't know, GTA just sounds so crazy, like in

769
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: order to get money for guns, we had to stand

770
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: in front of the pole.

771
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: Dancers, so he got in the one Honest Days and.

772
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Honest Days living I'm moving boxes on script from Money Ma.

773
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 3: We have to be careful though, because sometimes the dancers

774
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: of the pole would move and bump into CJ and

775
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: the balancers, but wrap the place up. One day, while

776
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 3: I was playing, my mom yelled down to the basement

777
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: us to get ready. We're going to Pizza Hut. Like

778
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: a great time and a stroke of genius, I drove

779
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: to the GTA dancing of the pole club, got on stage,

780
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: and then turned the TV off and we left. It

781
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: was the best heist of the century. My dad, however,

782
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: was and as the beast highest because he's getting all

783
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: that free money about we would go to the dancing

784
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: of the Pole Club and stand on the stage absorbing money.

785
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: Dudes threw at the woman and just let the game

786
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 3: sit for ten or twenty minutes.

787
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: Genius.

788
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: My dad, however, was at church at this time, practicing

789
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: for a gospel concert he was singing in. He always

790
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: filmed the practices so he could take notes at home

791
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: upon playblack. Oh God, so he could take notes at

792
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: home upon playback, and this time was no different. So

793
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: this guy's like, this guy's super religious.

794
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Wow, wait he reporting it in the basement or at

795
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: the church.

796
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: They record the church service and then he reviews the

797
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: tapes in the basement.

798
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: Ah, right, I know you're.

799
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 3: Religious when you're reviewing paper to the big game. Today. Well,

800
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: my mom and brothers and I were still at the hut.

801
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: He arrived at home and plugged his camcorder into the VCR.

802
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: We had just one VCR and it was connected to

803
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: the basement TV. Back at the hut, my mom gets

804
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: a phone call. She says, She puts her napkin down

805
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: and slowly looks at the table and says okay, okay,

806
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: okay a few times in the phone in this really

807
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: calculating specific way that she always did when she knew

808
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: us kids were in trouble. Before we did that, that

809
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: that mom's sixth sense that you you you know when

810
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: it's coming, you feel your soul. The wrath of a

811
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: mom is worse than our wrath against Adam Levine, our

812
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: arch nemesis, who we will pass and followers very soon.

813
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: So uh make sure it does aboard us so we

814
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: could dominate Adam Levine.

815
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Smash the follow so we can show him how talentless

816
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: fricket Adam Levine, We're coming for you. You know, I was

817
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna say earlier, like we said something about Jesus. I

818
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, who probably hates Jesus.

819
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: Naturally. It was at this point that we kids knew

820
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: we were in trouble, just like Adam Levine knows he's

821
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: in trouble when he sees our stuff. That's right for

822
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: what though we didn't know. After a very quiet minivan ride,

823
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: we get home and my mom says, boys, why don't

824
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: we go down to the basement. Your dad wants to

825
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: show you his gospel practice downstairs. No, it was then

826
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: at this point we knew why we were in trouble,

827
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: so we drag our feet down the stairs and lo

828
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: and be old. My dad is sitting on the couch,

829
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: TV on and a dancer of the poles poligonal milk milkers,

830
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: juicy milkers swung stiffly back and forth on screen to

831
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: en vogues my love, and with CJS standing mere inches

832
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: away collecting money. Oh no, my dad starts in boys,

833
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know where to begin. This PlayStation was

834
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: a blessing to you for Christmas, and this is how

835
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: you repay us by breaking our trust, just like Adam

836
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: Levine broke our trust by having no talent. No talent,

837
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: Adam Levine. He's holding the controller up now, gesticulating with it.

838
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: Here I am practicing to bring glory to God. And

839
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: but he was cut off as he inadvertently squeezed the controller,

840
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: causing SIJ to punch the dancer of the poll. My

841
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: entire family stands in silence, watching together as the bouncers

842
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: in the club to the place for what seems like

843
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: an eternity. The reatatying stops and CJ appears in front

844
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: of the hospital. I look back and see my mom

845
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: silently weeping into her hand. I look at my dad

846
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: as a single tear rolls down his cheek and as

847
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: he prays under his breath. After another eternity of silence,

848
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: without a word, my dad bends down, disconnects the PlayStation,

849
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: walks back to the family computer, disconnects it, goes to

850
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: his car, and drives away. For the next four months,

851
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: he kept the PS two and PC locked in his

852
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: office at work. GLDR. I wasn't allowed to play GTA

853
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: growing up, of course, got caught playing it. My dad

854
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: interrupted his own lecture by accidentally punching a dance of

855
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: the poll and immediately asking for God's forgiveness.

856
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: You know what's so sad is my immediate reaction to

857
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: the end of that story is like, what happened to

858
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: the money in GTA? Were they able to say? Because

859
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: it probably needs so much money in GTA.

860
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: All of their all of their hard work, connecting all

861
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 3: those all those club dollars from those deuicy milkers, shaking

862
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: about lost forever

863
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Those milkshakes shako okop