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Speaker 3: get right into the news day because things are moving

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Speaker 3: very very quickly, say the least.

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Speaker 2: later in the show, so really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Emily is going to go through some of the key

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Speaker 2: clips from our interview with Tucker, but yeah, we want

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Speaker 2: to just jump right in because things are moving so

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Speaker 2: incredibly quickly. This morning, Donald Trump coming out guns blazing,

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Speaker 2: threatening both Israel and Iron not to violate a ceasefire

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Speaker 2: that he helps a broker yesterday. I'm going to play

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Speaker 2: the full comments here so you can really get a

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Speaker 2: full sense of what is going on, and then after

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Speaker 2: that I'll back up and we'll walk you through exactly

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Speaker 2: how we got to this point. Go ahead and take

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Speaker 2: a listen.

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Speaker 3: Agreement.

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Speaker 4: Do you believe that a ron so for many to see?

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Speaker 3: Yea, I do.

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Speaker 5: They violated it, But Israel violated it too. Israel as

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Speaker 5: soon as we made the deal, they came out and

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Speaker 5: they dropped the load of Bob's the likes of which

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Speaker 5: I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen.

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Speaker 5: I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,

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Speaker 5: now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in

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Speaker 5: the first hour. It just drop everything you have on them.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with

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Speaker 5: Iron either, But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out

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Speaker 5: this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that

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Speaker 5: happy about that. You know what we have, We basically

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Speaker 5: have two countries that have been fighting so long and

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Speaker 5: so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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Speaker 5: Do you understand that.

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Speaker 6: On a suppering apprograle.

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Speaker 5: I mean Iran will never rebuild a duklin from there,

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Speaker 5: absolutely not. That place is under rock. That place is demolished.

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Speaker 5: The b two pilots did their job. They did it

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Speaker 5: better than anybody could even imagine. They hit late in

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Speaker 5: hit that target with every one of those things. And

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Speaker 5: that place is gone. But when I see CNN all

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Speaker 5: night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 5: really as demolished as we thought. There was demolished, and

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Speaker 2: So very habit present saying he is very unhappy with

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Speaker 2: This comes on the heels of a whole lot. I'll

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Speaker 2: the true social posts that have come out just this morning. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is in the context and I'll show you all

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Speaker 7: So first thing we.

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Speaker 2: Got this morning is President Trump posted, Israel, do not

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Speaker 2: Bring your pilots home now, Donald J. Trump, President the

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Speaker 2: United States. Next, he posted, Israel is not going to

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Speaker 2: The ceasefire is in effect. Thank you for your attention

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before look, I mean I think even before we

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Speaker 3: the last twelve hours because originally we had the ceasefire.

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Speaker 3: We can actually put that up on the screen, A

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Speaker 3: Iran will start the ceasefire, and upon the twelfth hour,

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Speaker 3: Israel will start the ceasefire, and upon the twenty fourth hour,

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Speaker 3: saluted by the world. Now, immediately after that, there was

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Speaker 3: Then Iran, we have not received any cspire proposal. Israel,

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Speaker 3: we are declining to comment on any ceasfire. Iran says

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Speaker 3: then we see reports that Israel actually carries out its

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Speaker 3: what these Israeli strikes actually are going to do. Then

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Speaker 3: what happens is that the Iranians fire missiles also after

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Speaker 1: They don't know what the fuck they're doing. I'm very

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Speaker 3: Israel orders Israel by truth social to stop. And so

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Speaker 3: that's where things stand as for right now. It has

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Speaker 3: been like an absolutely insane twenty four hour period. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's then take a step back and actually look analytically

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Speaker 3: at everything that's This is the fakest end of a

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Speaker 7: Qatar, our largest airbase in the region, the.

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Speaker 3: Largest airbase in the region, a huge logistics hub. I've

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Speaker 3: talked a lot about it yesterday. Actually, can we put

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Speaker 1: Can we go in and show it to everybody?

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Speaker 3: You got some US service members that are cheering all

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Speaker 3: the Patriot batteries and the show. I mean, it's pretty surreal.

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Speaker 3: As people know, I went to high school in Guitar,

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Speaker 3: so it's pretty insane. Literally, I've been to that air base,

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Speaker 3: some people who still live in the country. It's pretty

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Speaker 3: wild that the airspace was closed. You know, Qatar Airways

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Speaker 3: one of the largest carriers in the world, turning planes

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Speaker 1: It was a very dangerous situation. So that is happening.

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Speaker 3: Immediately afterwards, the Iranians, it basically the news comes out

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Speaker 3: very calibrated response. It was the off ramp. Trump takes

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for world peace. So Iran executes a

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Speaker 3: We get to pretend that Iran's nuclear program is gone.

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Speaker 3: This is all of fugazy, let's all be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then Israel gets to, I guess, pretend that this

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Speaker 3: More on the Israeli side, I mean, it's pretty obvious

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's been embarrassing for them as well.

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Speaker 2: I think Iranians, I mean, they weren't the ones on

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Speaker 2: want this war to begin with.

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Speaker 3: That's also the strategic logic of this, where you know,

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Speaker 3: on the one hand, iran is a regime of Nazis

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Speaker 3: who chant death to America, but then on the other

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Speaker 3: So which one is it?

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Speaker 2: Can we hold on that point because I want people

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Speaker 2: to really think about this. I want you to think

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Speaker 2: about the way that the Iranians have been portrayed in

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Speaker 2: Belligerent regime that the moment they got a nuke was

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Speaker 2: That's how we're supposed to understand them, But not only

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Speaker 3: And This is exactly the problem is that the israelis

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Speaker 3: Trump is angry because he didn't get his pr win initially.

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Speaker 3: But what will happen already today?

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Speaker 3: So. Trump wants it exactly. Trump wants it to end today.

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Speaker 3: He's like, we will now have peace for all time.

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Speaker 3: However, as long as the Islamic regime remains in place,

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Speaker 3: Is to convince him that he's been humiliated by Iran

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Speaker 1: Broke the ceasefire.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't even know who broke the cease fire

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Speaker 1: This is pr but this is real life. And by

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Speaker 1: I just don't believe it, right Ques specially No, it

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Speaker 3: The strategic logic of going for a bomb has literally

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Speaker 3: Look, the Iranians are weak, you know, they've been humiliated,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the minute you give all of that up,

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Speaker 7: There's no way. So that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: The minute it was zero percent enriched uranium, then that

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Speaker 7: And then when you use the final round.

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantees in life. Was that a much better

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Speaker 7: Yes, But that's the.

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Speaker 2: pushing this policy. This is never about the nuclear weapons program.

437
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Speaker 2: They want the Iranian state to collapse. They want it

438
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Speaker 2: to be a failed state. They would be happy to

439
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 2: see some disastrous civil war, some disastrous and deadly civil

440
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: war that is spiraling out of control, that would create

441
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Speaker 2: a massive refugee crisis. That's what the Israelis and their

442
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: allies and the new kons want to see, so that

443
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: there is no challenge to complete in total Israeli hegemony

444
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: in the region. That is the goal, that has always

445
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: been the goal. The Israelis are not shy about saying

446
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: ultimately that that is the goal. And that's why all

447
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 2: these people, you know, the Marklevin's of the world and whoever,

448
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: are just utterly outrage that there's even a possibility that

449
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Speaker 2: this is the off ramp that we take. But you know, listen,

450
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: everyone should be very skeptical that it ends here. Even

451
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Speaker 2: if it ends here, this has been disastrous, so let's

452
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,239
Speaker 2: be clear, but you should also be skeptical that it

453
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Speaker 2: actually ends here because Soccer is right. You were right

454
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Speaker 2: in the beginning when you said, listen, the people who

455
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: want diplomacy, they have to win the battle every single day.

456
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 2: The psychos only have to win it once. They only

457
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 2: have to get you know, a Fox News segment that

458
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: convinces Trump one time, and suddenly you're off to the

459
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: races again. The Israelis, because they are so hell bent,

460
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: not in particular, but the Israelis in general is so

461
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: hell bent on this outcome of regime collapse. They are

462
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: not going to stop trying to pull us in and

463
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Speaker 2: make sure that they get their fondest wish.

464
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Speaker 7: That is their goal.

465
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Speaker 2: They are completely and utterly committed to it. And unless

466
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: you have someone on the other side in Trump who

467
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: is who is completely and utterly committed to an alternative outcome,

468
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Speaker 2: which would be actual peace and diplomacy, they are going

469
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Speaker 2: to be able to ultimately get their way because no

470
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Speaker 2: ideology is not a match for an ideology and ideological

471
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Speaker 2: an ideological goal that you are dead set on effectuating.

472
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Speaker 7: So I think we continue to be.

473
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Speaker 2: In an incredibly dangerous and unstable place as is seen

474
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Speaker 2: this morning. And also, I mean, the last thing I'll

475
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Speaker 2: say here is, like, you know, Trump is making a

476
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Speaker 2: big show this morning. We also know that a bunch

477
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Speaker 2: of the things he said in the past were completely

478
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Speaker 2: and totally fake. So yeah, and we're meant as a show.

479
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Speaker 2: So you also can't put that off the table, that

480
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: this is another show. We just genuinely don't know. It

481
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Speaker 2: seems like he's genuinely frustrated with the Israelis.

482
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Speaker 7: That would be my guest, I think, But you can't

483
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Speaker 7: put that possibility off the table and shifts so quickly.

484
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Speaker 3: I don't think that there's in fact, I know that

485
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Speaker 3: there's not a level of intention behind it, because all

486
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Speaker 3: of it really is just about like how he feels

487
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Speaker 3: in this moment.

488
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Speaker 1: It's about the show. He loves Trump the peacemaker.

489
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Speaker 3: As you can all see, he's desperate to win the

490
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Speaker 3: Nobel Peace Prize because Barack Obama, I mean, you know,

491
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: falsely got one in two thousand and nine. But the

492
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 3: point remains like that's what he wants at this moment,

493
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 3: but he also wanted to appear tough and strong and

494
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Speaker 3: got dragged basically, or at least went along with it

495
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Speaker 3: based upon with Fox Newsy. Of course the man has agency.

496
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean there's the incredible amount of like

497
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Speaker 3: trust the plan and all of this. It's so utterly preposterous.

498
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Speaker 1: There was no plan.

499
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Speaker 3: It was moving about from day to day we came

500
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Speaker 3: to the brink of war like this.

501
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Speaker 1: The only reason, by the way, that.

502
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Speaker 3: There was an off ramp was because of restraint from

503
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Speaker 3: the Iranian side. You know, somebody riddled me that in

504
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Speaker 3: terms of what that means, basically, everyone reiterate again, is

505
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: pretending that all of its major goals were accomplished. The

506
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: Iranians are lying, the Americans are lying, and the Israelis

507
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: are lying. Now, I guess you know that's far preferable

508
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Speaker 3: to war breaking out.

509
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Speaker 1: I'm happy and listen.

510
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Speaker 3: I would love to see an actual diplomatic solution that

511
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Speaker 3: comes you know, that actually happens with Steve Wikoff and

512
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Speaker 3: some future negotiation between Israel, Iran, and the United States.

513
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Speaker 3: But what it would require is the Donald Trump of

514
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Speaker 3: today basically coming hard against the Israelis. And we have

515
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Speaker 3: day I was gonna say, and the problem with that

516
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: is we've seen it once or twice. Oh, you can't

517
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Speaker 3: attack Iran. I'm frustrated with you. You're going to take

518
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Speaker 3: the ceasefire in Gaza. But what's usually the story. The

519
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: ceasefire in Gaza happens, and then what collapses sixty days later,

520
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 3: and now they're roll in Gaza. I mean, it's probably

521
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: never been worse than it is today. And then what

522
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Speaker 3: happened again, Oh, you can't attack Iran in April sixty

523
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: one days later, boom they attack Iran. So we have

524
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: a proven track record here. Now hopefully he learns from that. Again,

525
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: I am very, very hopeful. But I think that the

526
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: pro the pro war side is riding so high right

527
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: now from being able to even just accomplish this, and

528
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: they're going to claim a lot of credibility. And you know,

529
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 3: Trump is a person who really can see like where

530
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: his media and of course the media is playing a

531
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Speaker 3: role CNNs yesterday talking about this is one of the

532
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Speaker 3: greatest achievements of Donald Trump's entire president is one of

533
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: the greatest legacies, you know in the Middle East, right,

534
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: Like he's a showman. He can see and eats all

535
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: of this stuff up. So yeah, for me, very mission

536
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: accomplished vibe. Like the idea this is really going to

537
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: end on day thirteen, I just think it's preposterous. And

538
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 3: I actually think he's just opened up like a Pandora's

539
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: box and this problem will now bedevil him for four years.

540
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: It will just constantly rear its ugly head, Can you

541
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: really forced the Israelis to accept it be a deal?

542
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Speaker 1: Maybe?

543
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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if any president could, he could do it,

544
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Speaker 3: but then he would have to want to do it.

545
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Speaker 1: No, and I just don't know.

546
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Speaker 7: Well, of course he could do it.

547
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Speaker 2: Of course, any American president can say to the Israelis

548
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: at any time like that's it. Your aight is pold,

549
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: You're not getting those weapons, any.

550
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 7: War, You're done.

551
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Speaker 2: If it was not already clear to you how dependent

552
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Speaker 2: on us they are in order to do anything, then

553
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this whole provocation and war that

554
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: the Israelis launched should have proved that to you, because

555
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: they came in knowing that they could not come close

556
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: to achieving their goals without getting us to come in.

557
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Speaker 7: They were running low on interceptors.

558
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Speaker 2: I mean, I actually think I think that's another important

559
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Speaker 2: aspect of like, Okay, if you ask, well, why did

560
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: they agree to this at this point, I think, yes,

561
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: the Iranians. It doesn't surprise me they were looking for

562
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: an off ramp because as I said before, they were

563
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: not looking for an on ramp to begin with. For

564
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Speaker 2: the Israelis. I think they likely agreed to it because

565
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: they were having this issue with interceptors running low. We

566
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: don't know how much damage they were taking, but they

567
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: took some significant amount of image in Tel Aviv and

568
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Haifa and other places. And so I think they accepted

569
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: this as a way to effectively regroup and you know,

570
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: have this sort of planned down as like a phased

571
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: war approach. And so that's likely why they were willing

572
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, fine, we will do a ceasefire. Do

573
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: you think they mean we're now going to have permanent peace?

574
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: You think that No, of course not. Because the other

575
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: piece of this, and it does get lost sometimes is

576
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: really important to highlight, is not only do you have

577
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, this is a multi decade goal of Netanyahu

578
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: and other Israeli governments, A huge mass is really public

579
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: support for it as well, but this also what are

580
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: we not having as much time to talk about when

581
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: we are endlessly having to cover whether we are you know,

582
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: in this war and not in this war, and what

583
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: bombs were dropping and what it accomplished whatever. It makes

584
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: it very difficult to really focus on what is happening

585
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: in Gaza, and what is happening in Gaza is horrific.

586
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: I mean, it really may be some of the worst

587
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: things we have ever seen.

588
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 7: The entire population crowded.

589
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Speaker 2: Into a heiny space, rampant you know, disease and waste

590
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: and horror. And then you have these near daily, if

591
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: not daily, aid massacres that are just ongoing. I mean,

592
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: this is just what's happening in Gaza right now. And

593
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: so ron Is also provides cover for net Yahoo to

594
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Speaker 2: be able to finish his ethnic cleansing and genocide in

595
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Speaker 2: Gaza and in the West Bank as well. That is

596
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: that is the you know, another big piece of this

597
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: picture that we can't move miss out on, which is

598
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: something that Professor Mehersheimer highlighted yesterday as well, that that's

599
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: a really important piece of understanding their motivations and what

600
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: is going on here. So that motivation is not going

601
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: to go away. The longtime desire to destroy Iran and

602
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: make it so it cannot possibly be anything approaching a

603
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: competitor to Israel in the region, that is gone. And

604
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: let me just say, you know, for the for the

605
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: neocons out there who say, you know, good, let's let's

606
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: let that happen and let's make Ran a failed state

607
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: or install the Sharer, whatever fairy tale fantasy.

608
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 7: The outcome they have in mind. You think it stops.

609
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: There, I mean next then they'll say, well, what about Pakistan?

610
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: Pakistan could be a challenge to us, or maybe it's

611
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: what about Turkey. Turkey could be a challenge to us,

612
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Like you cannot bomb your way to safety and security

613
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: in the region. Israel is making themselves the most hated

614
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: country in the world right now. That is not a

615
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: way to make you and your people and your security.

616
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: There is not a way to create safety for your

617
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: own people. So this logic never stops. Even if they

618
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: get their disastrous war, you know that ends in complete

619
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: chaos and misery in Iran, Even then, the logic doesn't stop.

620
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Speaker 7: So that's where we are.

621
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Speaker 2: Any any other thoughts on this saga before we move on,

622
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: because we do, we do have some other things we

623
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: want to cover. But I think it's it's very very

624
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: as we record this this morning, is very uncertain what

625
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: is ultimately going to unfolden where we're going now.

626
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister's office just came out and be like

627
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: all the wars goals have been accomplished from these res

628
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 3: which again, you know, it's ridiculous. My last closing is

629
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: I guess it turns out Trump can order net and

630
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Yahoo in the IDF.

631
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Speaker 7: Right.

632
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: Interesting, Now, that's actually that's so that's a pretty key point.

633
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: So if the president can indeed order the Israeli Prime

634
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Speaker 3: Minister and the IDF to do whatever he wants to do,

635
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: you should take note of that, because we were told

636
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: what Israel is an independent country, they're going on their own.

637
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: He couldn't stop them. What's he gonna do? Tell them? No,

638
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: he just did.

639
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: Their planes literally turned around in the sky. Yes, they

640
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: still dropped a bomb on Tehran, but apparently it was

641
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: like a radar installation and it didn't kill anybody at

642
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: least according to the initial reports right now. And they

643
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: were actually going in to basically raise the place to

644
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: the ground in response to these ballistic missiles. So I

645
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: think that's a very interesting lesson, isn't it, Because we

646
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: were told repeatedly that that's not possible. It's it's definitely

647
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: possible if if it's if it's something that you want

648
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: to do. And by the way, Trump now tells reporters

649
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: aboard Air Force One, he's not looking for regime change

650
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: as long as a tentative. As a tentative ceasefire takes hold,

651
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Speaker 3: So things are changing. Yeah, it's like things can change

652
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: every single day. It would be funny, except hundreds of

653
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: people are actually dead, you know, as a result of this,

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Speaker 3: innocent civilians in Tehran and in Tel Aviv and all

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Speaker 3: across of Israel.

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Speaker 1: And who knows where things will go in terms of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nuclear pro and you've made it much more likely

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Speaker 2: that Israel.

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Speaker 7: I mean that Iran.

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Speaker 2: Israel already has large nuclear word one hundreds of nuclear

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Speaker 2: web Yeah, at least ninety that we know of for sure,

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Speaker 2: that's two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I think Colin Powell said two hundred. Really, Wiki leagues,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I have to go back. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while since I looked at it.

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Speaker 7: They have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Iran has zero, and now Iran has much more

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Speaker 2: motivation and pursue one. So great, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: around the world, other countries are watching those going really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I really need to get Maybe I need a nuke

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Speaker 2: so these people can fuck with me, because that seems

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Speaker 2: to be the only thing that will deter us and

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Speaker 2: the Israelis from coming in and trying to destroy your

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Speaker 2: entire country. Here we go, all right, It is primary

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Speaker 2: day in the New York City mayoral race. As a reminder,

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Speaker 2: Griffin and Ryan will be in New York City too

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Speaker 2: night at the Zoron Mom Donnie election night watch party,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully we're going to be able to grab Zoron.

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Speaker 2: We've got some other people that we're going to be

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Speaker 2: able to talk to that I think you're going to

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Speaker 2: be excited about. Emily and I are going to be

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Speaker 2: here at home sort of head heading that live stream

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Speaker 2: or whatever, being playing quarterback on that live stream so

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Speaker 2: that they can go and grab people. And we're also

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Speaker 2: going to cover whatever news comes down today because God

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Speaker 2: knows by tonight what state of the world we're going

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Speaker 2: to be in. So that's going to kick off at

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Speaker 2: eight point thirty. Thank you so much the premium subscribers

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Speaker 7: All the goodies that that entails.

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Speaker 2: So all of that being said, Zoron mom Donnie and

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Speaker 2: Brad Lander, who have cross endorsed each other.

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Speaker 7: Lander is another.

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Speaker 2: Local elected official who's progressive, has a close alliance with AOC,

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Speaker 2: so they cross endorsed each other. It's also significant because

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Speaker 2: Lander is the highest Jewish elected official in the city.

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Speaker 2: And given the fact that a core strategy of the

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Speaker 2: Cuomo campaign has been to smear Zoron as an anti Semite,

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Speaker 2: that cross endorsement and you know, plan to say like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: my supporters, you need to rank Zoron and zorn support

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Speaker 2: supporters need to rank Brad Lander. That has been I

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Speaker 2: think very significant, very important to his campaign. So the

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Speaker 2: two of them went on Colbert last night together and

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Speaker 2: lo and behold. Zoron faced questions from Stephen Colbert exactly

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Speaker 2: along these lines of basically, are you an anti Semite

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 7: Let's go ahead and take a listen to how he responded.

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Speaker 8: Mister mom donney, same question. Does the state of Israel

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Speaker 8: have the right to exist?

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Speaker 9: Yes, like all nations, I believe it has a right

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Speaker 9: to exist in a responsibility also to uphold international law.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, let's let's talk about the elephant the room

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Speaker 8: is that there are many people new York, even people

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Speaker 8: who would support your candidacy otherwise who don't want to

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Speaker 8: support you because of the Jewish communities, fear of the

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Speaker 8: true and rising anti Semitism, not only around the world,

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Speaker 8: but in this country and shamefully in New York, which

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Speaker 8: is the largest Jewish population of any city other than

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Speaker 8: Tel Aviv in the whole world. And they are worried.

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Speaker 8: They're very upset by some of the things that you've

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Speaker 8: said in the past, and they are afraid that your

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Speaker 8: mayorship would actually lead to increased anti Semitism, that they

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Speaker 8: believe that would be more dangerous for them. What do

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Speaker 8: you say to those New Yorkers who are afraid that

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Speaker 8: you wouldn't be their mayor that you wouldn't protect them.

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Speaker 9: I know where that fear is coming from. It's a

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Speaker 9: fear that is based upon the horrific attacks we've seen

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Speaker 9: in Washington, d C. In Boulder, Colorado.

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Speaker 8: It's all the way from Jews not replace us to today.

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Speaker 9: And it's a fear that I hear also from New

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Speaker 9: Yorkers themselves. You know, just a few days after the

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Speaker 9: horrific war crime of October seventh, a friend of mine

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Speaker 9: told me about how he went to his synagogue for

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Speaker 9: Schabbot services, and he heard the door open behind him,

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Speaker 9: and a tremor went up his spine as he turned around,

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Speaker 9: not knowing who was there and what they meant for him.

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Speaker 9: I spoke to a Jewish man in Williamsburg just months

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Speaker 9: ago who told me that the door he left unlocked

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Speaker 9: for decades is now one that he locks. And ultimately,

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Speaker 9: this is because we're seeing a crisis of antisemitism, and

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Speaker 9: that's why at the heart of my proposal for Department

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Speaker 9: of Community Safety is a commitment to increase funding for

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Speaker 9: anti hate crime programming by eight hundred percent, Because to

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Speaker 9: your point, anti Semitism is not simply something that we

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Speaker 9: should talk about. It's something that we have to tackle.

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Speaker 9: We have to make clear there's no room for it

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Speaker 9: in the city, in this country, in this world.

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Speaker 8: And no justifications for violence of any kind.

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Speaker 9: No, there is no room for violence.

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Speaker 10: I'm a proud Jewish New Yorker raised in two Jewish kids.

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Speaker 10: Here is the joy of my life. I'm the highest

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Speaker 10: ranking Jewish elected official in New York City government. I'm

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Speaker 10: nervous about rising anti semitism, and also I believe in

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Speaker 10: the humanity and the human rights of Palestinians. And I

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Speaker 10: know that it is possible hate what I support that

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Speaker 10: vision of Israel's Jewish democratic state, but I hate what

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Speaker 10: the Netan Yahoo government is doing in Gaza. And I've

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Speaker 10: been saying that a long time. And look, you know,

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Speaker 10: Mayor is going to be responsible for what happen in

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Speaker 10: the Middle East. But there is something quite remarkable about

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Speaker 10: a Jewish New Yorker and a Muslim New Yorker coming

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Speaker 10: together to say, here's how we protect all New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: Jews, Jewish New.

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Speaker 10: Yorkers and Muslim New Yorkers are not going to be

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Speaker 10: divided from each other. We build a city where you

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Speaker 10: have affordable housing and good schools and safe neighborhoods for everyone.

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Speaker 2: So Sagra, I'm interested for your reaction. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: just preposterous to me that Israel and this, you know,

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Speaker 2: smear of Zoran as a n anti Zemite has become

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Speaker 2: so central in this campaign. I almost can't blame though

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Speaker 2: Colbert for asking him about it, because Culomo has put

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Speaker 2: it so it's front and center. And to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I thought that answer from Zoren was fantastic, I mean classic, Like,

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Speaker 2: first he connects on an emotional level with these personal stories,

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Speaker 2: and then he's like, and that's why, here's my policy.

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Speaker 2: And you're sitting there next to brad Lander, who then

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Speaker 2: comes in after Zoran speaks and is like, you know,

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Speaker 2: and defends him, and in a way that I think

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Speaker 2: also was you know, was very powerful. So I actually

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Speaker 2: think that moment probably listen, I mean, the cake is

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Speaker 2: probably baked at this point anyway, But I actually think

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Speaker 2: that moment ends up serving him because he handled it

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Speaker 2: so well. You hear the audience with him, You've got

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Speaker 2: Brent brad Lander there to also sort of validate what

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Speaker 2: he's saying, and so to me, it was actually a

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Speaker 2: positive opportunity that he handled quite well here going into election.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't disagree. I guess for me, it's just

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Speaker 3: so tiresome that the New York City. Look, I don't

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Speaker 3: live in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a New Yorker. New Yorkers, you do what

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Speaker 1: you want.

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Speaker 3: But my point is is like, look, the last thing

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Speaker 3: that I honestly care about from the mayor's point of

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Speaker 3: view is their views on the Israeli Palestinian conflict. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've lived here, and why I actually have no idea

802
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Speaker 3: what my own personal mayor's views are on various foreign conflicts.

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Speaker 3: And I don't really care for me, it's about crosswalks,

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Speaker 3: trash collection, property tax.

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Speaker 2: You didn't vote on which floor, Tony, I.

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Speaker 3: Care less, I really, you know, I mean, I live here,

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Speaker 3: or I used to live here in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: The nation's capital, allegedly supposedly somebody with a very powerful mayor,

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Speaker 3: especially with home rule and all that. I never once

810
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Speaker 3: was like, hey, Mayor Bowser, what are your views on Ghana?

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Speaker 3: Even though she's spending plenty of time on those fours and.

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Speaker 2: You promised we'll go to Israel? Then how many times.

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Speaker 1: I was like, can you do something about crime?

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Speaker 3: And trash collection is really annoying, and the homeless problem

815
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Speaker 3: is really out of control, and there's too many drug

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Speaker 3: addicts that are around the city. That's literally it. That's

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Speaker 3: all I care about. So just the fact that everybody

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Speaker 3: and all of us are like supposed to care so much.

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Speaker 3: I guess, you know, in a certain sense, I understand it.

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Speaker 3: This whole talking point like, oh, New York is the

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Speaker 3: largest Jewish population, But again, you know, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: conflating this idea the Jews of New York how the

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Speaker 3: state of Israel is like directly, you know, and their

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Speaker 3: views on that topic comports to the policy of their

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Speaker 3: daily life in wherever they at Brooklyn, wherever.

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Speaker 1: They happen to live. It also is just preposterous.

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Speaker 2: It also erases the fact that Zoren actually has a

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Speaker 2: lot of Jewish support. I mean, Brad Lander is one

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Speaker 2: very high profile example on this coalition that they have

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Speaker 2: formed together. And this is also something that's interesting about

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Speaker 2: ranked choice voting is allows the possibility of these sort

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Speaker 2: of cross endorsements. Michael Blake and Zorin have also cross endorsed,

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Speaker 2: So that's one thing that you know, creates interesting possibilities

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Speaker 2: in ranked choice voting. You know something else that brad

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Speaker 2: Lander said, he was like, he was like, listen, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that your views on Israel should you know,

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Speaker 2: necessarily be central to New York City mayoral race. However, look,

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Speaker 2: there is something powerful about this city having this alliance

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Speaker 2: between you know, prominent Jewish official and a prominent Muslim official,

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Speaker 2: Like that is actually a really positive and really beautiful thing,

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Speaker 2: which I thought, again was like a good response to

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Speaker 2: the question, But it is crazy the way that they've

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Speaker 2: made this central and put it, you know, tried to

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Speaker 2: persuade people that he is hates Jews and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be bad for Jewish people. I mean, some of

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Speaker 2: the deranged things that I've seen out.

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Speaker 7: There are truly truly wild.

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Speaker 2: But in reality, there is no official that has Zoro

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Speaker 2: actually gets second highest Jewish support in the entire race.

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Speaker 7: So what is anti.

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Speaker 2: Semitic is to expect that every single Jewish voter is

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Speaker 2: going to approach these questions in the same way and

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Speaker 2: have the same views.

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Speaker 7: What is anti.

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Speaker 2: Semitic is to force every Jewish person to alide with

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Speaker 2: the state that is currently committing a genocide and act

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Speaker 2: like that represents every Jew in the city of New

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Speaker 2: York's or around the world. So in any case, that

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Speaker 2: has been very central. In terms of where the polls are,

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Speaker 2: there's been a mixed bag. But we did get one

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Speaker 2: poll here, you know, going right into election that we

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Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday from Emerson. Can put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 2: This is B two that has Zoron winning. So it

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Speaker 2: has him. This is after you do all the rank

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Speaker 2: choice and this and then that and whatever, and at

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Speaker 2: the end in the final round, it has Zoron at

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Speaker 2: fifty two percent and Cuomo at forty eight percent. Let's

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Speaker 2: put the demographic split up here on the screen because

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Speaker 2: this is also very interesting. You have zora On winning

870
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: overall and surging by the way. The way he has

871
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 2: come from behind has been extraordinary. He wins significantly among

872
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: white voters. Cuomo's strongest base of support is among black voters.

873
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: Cuomo wins Hispanic voters sixty forty, and Zoron romps among

874
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Asian voters seventy nine twenty one. Now, this is interesting.

875
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: Zoron does better with men than with women. Cuomo narrowly

876
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: wins women, Zoron wins a little bit by a larger

877
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: margin among men. Zoran does very well among college educated,

878
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: Cuomo's bases among non college educated. The generational divide here

879
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: is also extraordinary. You have people under the age of fifty.

880
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Zoron wins sixty seven to thirty three, Cuomo wins fifty

881
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: to fifty nine, and you've got you know, sixty plus,

882
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: also very much in the Cuomo kaev Actually, apparently Cuomo's

883
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: strongest age demographics is actually fifty to fifty nine, which

884
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: is kind of interesting. So in any case, you've got

885
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: this sort of like young, college educated, white and Asian

886
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: bro dominated coalition for Zoron and then for Cuomo. You

887
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: have his base as sort of like older black voters.

888
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: And as we've been looking at the early voting numbers

889
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: so far, they do look to be favorite like, they

890
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: looks to be much more energy behind Zoron. The areas

891
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: of the city in particular, you know, areas of Brooklyn

892
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: where he is absolutely the strongest, have been showing up

893
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: in droves. Young people have been showing up in a

894
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: way that you know is highly unusual, if not unprecedented

895
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: for early voting. And one other thing that people are

896
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: pointing to Sager is the heat in the city today

897
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Griffin was just texting as supposed to be

898
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fourteen in the Bronx, the Bronx

899
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: and Staten Island being the two boroughs that are strongest

900
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: for Cuomos. So, you know, given that his base Zoron

901
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: is almost certainly ahead in the early vote, which is

902
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: pretty impressive. He has a massive number of volunteers. Coulomo

903
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: really has to depend on strong election day turnout, and

904
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: his base is more elderly. That's why the heat can

905
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: potentially come into play. But listen, that's one poll. Most

906
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: of the poles have shown Cuomo winning. Some of them

907
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: have shown him winning by you know, as much as

908
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: ten points. So this is really it's anybody's game. It

909
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: could truly go either way at this point.

910
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you know what's fascinating to me

911
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: is for Cuomo is the fact that it's even this

912
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: close is honestly humiliating. And actually one of his Flowers

913
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: advisors did a very good job of summing it up.

914
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: Let's put B three please up on the screen again.

915
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: I reiterate, this is a guy who used to work

916
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: for Andrew Cuomo. A grim and joyless campaign as befits,

917
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: a battle for a prize never wanted, one long viewed

918
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: with disdain and contempt, as a trifle that only lesser

919
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: men would debase themselves to seek victory if it comes

920
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: at all, will be bandaged with tinmy fan fa strident

921
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 3: gloat to muffle the voice at the center that won't

922
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: stop whispering.

923
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm hollow, brutal man, I mean, that is savage. This

924
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 1: is how.

925
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 7: This dude.

926
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, honestly, it's poetic. That's that's well written.

927
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: I could never come up with something like that just

928
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: off the top of my head, but it does demonstrate,

929
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, the real problems that they have. I will

930
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: say a couple of things for Zorn. First of all,

931
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: obviously he's run a decent campaign. I mean, he's running

932
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: nice a good campaign, got a lot of a lot

933
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: of excitement, a lot of lower propensity voters, use social media, podcasting,

934
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: et cetera to really get his message out there, got

935
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: a lot of progressives to endorse him.

936
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: So there's that.

937
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: But second, it's equally a tale of the failure of

938
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: the New York Democratic establishment, because the New York Democratic

939
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: Establishment correctly kicked Andrew Croomo out of office over me too.

940
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: But really what they should have kicked him out for

941
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: was his handling of COVID.

942
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: It was a disaster.

943
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: This guy's there his blood.

944
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: On his hands of elderly people because of his policy

945
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: and then light about and all of this is confirmed

946
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: I mean by his own government basically at the time.

947
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: And yet they still allowed him to like trapes on

948
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: in and to try and to seize it based.

949
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: On his own name recognition alone. So there's those two.

950
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: It's really a Hillary dynamic to be honest, like a

951
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: deeply terrible candidate who comes in here and is just

952
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: like I'm the king or the queen.

953
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: I deserve this.

954
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: It's my time because of who I am and my

955
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: last name, and then you have upstart campaign. I also

956
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: think Zoron has a lot of political benefit or a

957
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: lot of political wins at his back. Cuomo's out here

958
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: supporting the Iran strike, like Cuomo's out here running the

959
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: whole anti semi you know thing against so Soron is

960
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: the guy who's got, you know, the anti Trump energy

961
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: really at his back at a very critical time when

962
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: the Democratic base is very, very fired up. So look,

963
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: it's a classic insurgent versus you know, you just ostified

964
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: establishment story. If he does win, and even if he

965
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: does come close, again, it's embarrassing.

966
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: It's deeply embarrassing for Andrew Kuama.

967
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to that point about the different campaigns that

968
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: they have run, Zorn concluded his campaign walking the length

969
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: of the island of Manhattan, recording these videos with supporters.

970
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: I read an account from a journalist who walked with

971
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: him that entire length and was sort of expecting that

972
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: in northern Manhattan, you know, these are more and I

973
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: used to live in this area. There's are more like

974
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: working class areas. There's a lot of rent stabilized apartments,

975
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: very diverse in particularly walking through areas that are majority Dominican,

976
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: Spanish language speakers, et cetera.

977
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 7: And this reporter was like.

978
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: You know, I kind of expected he wouldn't get as

979
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: much hype there because that's not my impression of what

980
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: his base was.

981
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 7: And he was like people were flooding.

982
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: Him, every mobbing him everywhere anyway, was a celebrity everywhere

983
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: he went throughout the entire city. And so let's go

984
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: ahead and take a look at a little bit of

985
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: the video and the vibe from that walk down the

986
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: length of the island of Manhattan.

987
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 7: This is before guys go ahead and play this.

988
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 9: We have just begun our walk through the entirety Manhattan.

989
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 9: Where inwood Hill Park at.

990
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 11: The tip top we're outside because New York is deserving

991
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 11: mayna that they can see, they can hear, they can

992
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 11: even yell up, good bro elections on Tuesday, Tuesday.

993
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody pray.

994
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, yes, sir, Thank you brother.

995
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 11: You have climbed six floor walk ups and braved the

996
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 11: pouring rain to canvas hour City. Wait, we both have

997
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 11: canvas for you.

998
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: I am sorry, but the days of moral victories are

999
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: over because this is a campaign that is going to

1000
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 4: win on June twenty four.

1001
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: All right, where are we headed?

1002
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 7: A lot of bros in that video? Sorry?

1003
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: You know the Democratic Party is serious about, like, hey,

1004
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: how do we win back these young men? They might

1005
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: want to do something other than just do everything they

1006
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: can to try to destroy this candidate who clearly shows

1007
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: some promis and is like struck a nerve and it

1008
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: really does tell you everything about like just how terrible

1009
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: the Democrats truly are and why they are so stuck

1010
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: and why they lose. I mean, this is a talented politician,

1011
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Like he is a talented guy. He from this come

1012
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: from behind campaign, lightning in a bottle. Whether or not

1013
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: he wins, vastly exceeded anyone's expectations. And their reaction to

1014
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: that is to do everything they possibly can to crush it. So,

1015
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: in contrast to how Zoran is closing his campaign, Cuomo

1016
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: is closing his campaign. First of all, Griffin went out

1017
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: and was like, I really am having trouble even finding

1018
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: a video a Cromo like in his campaign closing here,

1019
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: and I think everyone would acknowledge Ross Barkin, who was

1020
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: a great New York journalist who've had.

1021
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 7: On the show.

1022
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Coulomo's run an absolutely abysmal, lazy, tired campaign, But his

1023
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: final move here was to go deep back to the

1024
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: Democratic well and enlist former President Bill Clinton to record

1025
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: an ad for him. I guess sex past stick together.

1026
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a listen to B seven.

1027
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 6: Hello, this is President Bill Clinton. I'm calling to urge

1028
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 6: you to vote for Andrew Cuomo for Mayor of New

1029
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 6: York City. Early voting is open now in election days

1030
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 6: this Tuesday. I chose Andrew to be my Secretary of

1031
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 6: Housing in Urban Development because he knew how to get

1032
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 6: things done. Together. We worked for years delivering for working people,

1033
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 6: lowering homelessness, revitalizing neighborhoods, and bringing real investment to communities

1034
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 6: that had been left behind. As governor, he built a

1035
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 6: new Laguadia, expanded public transit, raised the minimum wage, and

1036
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 6: passed marriage equality. Now New York needs real leadership on

1037
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 6: affordable housing, public safety, and genuine opportunity. And Andrew's ready

1038
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 6: to deliver. He's a fighter who knows how to make

1039
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 6: government work. And at a time when our basic rights

1040
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 6: are under assault. No, he'll stand up and protect the

1041
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 6: people in this city. So make your voice heard. Vote

1042
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: early or show up on Tuesday, and please vote for

1043
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 6: Andrew Cuomo for Mayor of New York City.

1044
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: Inspiring stuff soccer, yes, deeply, but who knows.

1045
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it could still work. I guess we

1046
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: also have this attack from Andrew Cuomo. B eight guys,

1047
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: let's take a listen.

1048
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 12: LA's and chaos. Now Trump's coming for New York. You

1049
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 12: think a thirty three year old legislator who's passed three

1050
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 12: bills can stop him. Andrew Cuomo's managed to state and

1051
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 12: manage crises from COVID to Trump. We need someone experience

1052
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 12: to stop him. People by Cuomo for NYC Inc.

1053
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: There's been ocean of money coming in from Oh yeah, Clomo.

1054
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody showed me a bar chart and it

1055
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: was insane. It's like ten to one margin in terms

1056
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: of his spending. So if he does win, it'll be

1057
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: at a very very very low margin, and largely it

1058
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 3: will probably be a story of what it's like older

1059
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: black voters, right Jewish voters as well, basically who save him?

1060
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: It's probably really a tale of name recognition if I

1061
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: had to guess, oh yeah, you know, on his side.

1062
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: So, I mean, look, that's the other thing here.

1063
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 3: I'm not going to underestimate the Democratic establishment, even as

1064
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: weak and you know, horrible, disgusting all of that as

1065
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: they can be, they.

1066
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Still have a couple of tricks and things up there.

1067
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: Sleep Jim Clyburn came out for Andrew Croma, which what, like,

1068
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: I know, dude, you're from South Carolina.

1069
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: What do you even have an incentive here? It's like, wow,

1070
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: we know the incentive.

1071
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm shocked. Actually Obama didn't decide to jump in

1072
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 7: and make sure of that too.

1073
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, I mean Clinton kind of makes sense. I

1074
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 3: think he lives in New York so and he spends

1075
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: a lot of time in New York City, but whatever.

1076
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but his headquarters.

1077
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: Whatever, the Clinton Global Initiative, I think, is in Harlem.

1078
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1079
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: But you know, the other corollary to this is if

1080
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: Zorn does win, will just be the billionaire freak out.

1081
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: It's gonna be delicious.

1082
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: They're already proof for you to out, that's preloaded, is

1083
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: locked and loaded, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: All because I actually think it would be very healthy

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Speaker 3: for New York because New York's taxation system is completely

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Speaker 3: stupid and it's like ten people pay like forty percent

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Speaker 3: of the taxes. They basically designed it so that it's

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Speaker 3: basically it's heavily reliant on Wall Street and ulter rich

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Speaker 3: financiers and a lot of the more working class, middle

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Speaker 3: class and even upper middle class like have less of

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Speaker 3: a stake like in how things are all run. This

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Speaker 3: is bad because it actually gives way too much outsize

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Speaker 3: power to these guys and be like, I'm gonna move

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Speaker 3: to Palm Beach and they're like, no, please don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't pay our bills if you don't.

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Speaker 3: So their whole financing structure actually does need to be

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Speaker 3: totally redone. So it would be good. It would actually

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Speaker 3: be a good thing if all of the super rich

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Speaker 3: left New York City.

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Speaker 1: It would be affordable.

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Speaker 2: Again, Like they threatened to do this over build a

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Speaker 2: Blasio too, and they didn't. And but actually the n

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Speaker 2: I saw chart the number of millionaires went.

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Speaker 7: Up in the city after de Blasio gets elected.

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Speaker 3: So but see it's actually it's really not a millionaire question.

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Speaker 3: It's more like one hundred millionaire because that's again the insanity.

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Speaker 3: The New York system is how much is reliant on

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Speaker 3: the people who make like two or three hundred million

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Speaker 3: and or are billionaires.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, is Wall Street going to go anywhere?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, we'll see. I means it'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: I personally, it'll be fun to watch no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely so again, guys, we'll be covering it

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Speaker 2: live tonight.

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Speaker 7: Make sure you tune in.

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Speaker 2: Emily and I will be here, Ryan and Griffin will

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Speaker 2: be up in New York covering this live, and we

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Speaker 2: will all find out together what happens. Assuming they're aim

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Speaker 2: about their ballots. That's right, big question mark.