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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Presspast podcast. This is Cassie Cherigo and

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Speaker 1: today January thirteenth, Ravens owner Steve A. Shatti and executive

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Speaker 1: vice president and general manager Eric Acosta addressed the media

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Speaker 1: to discuss their search for a new head coach, the

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Speaker 1: decision to move on from head coach John Harball, Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson's contract status, and more.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming. Obviously, we don't do these very often.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you have put your heart and soul

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Speaker 2: into this team, and we appreciate.

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Speaker 3: Most of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have anything to tell you that's not

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Speaker 2: going to come out in your questions, So you've got anything.

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Speaker 4: Eric, Just thanks for coming. First of all, I think,

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Speaker 4: from my perspective, a very disappointing season, but also we

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Speaker 4: see a great opportunity moving forward. We're very excited about

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Speaker 4: this process ahead of us and building this team to

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Speaker 4: be the very best we can be excited about that

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Speaker 4: moving forward the spring. Our players are excited and we

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Speaker 4: plan on getting back to the standard that we've set.

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Speaker 3: Questions Steve, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Goodness it as far as when you ever fire a

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Speaker 5: coach after eighteen years, there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 5: speculations as to why and the reasons behind it. For you,

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Speaker 5: what was the biggest reason that led to your decision

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Speaker 5: and when exactly did you make the decision to fire

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Speaker 5: John Horbal.

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Speaker 3: Hmm. I staked out a position that I thought.

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Speaker 2: I had come to, you know, with a lot of

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Speaker 2: thought and a lot of prayer, and gave it a

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Speaker 2: lot of time time to it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: I talked to you three or four weeks ago, and

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Speaker 2: you know, there's uh. I guess the hardest part was

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Speaker 2: the reasons. And unfortunately, you know, most of these can't

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Speaker 2: get traced back to John necessarily. But you factually, we

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Speaker 2: led the league in giving up big leads in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. It's not something that winning organizations do. We

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Speaker 2: have underperformed based on our seeding in the playoffs, very disappointing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of players involved, a lot of our great

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Speaker 2: players involved making mistakes that they don't make during the

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Speaker 2: regular season very often. But I just thought it was

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Speaker 2: something that in the last ten years we've won the

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Speaker 2: third most games in the NFL, and yet people were

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Speaker 2: saying we were underachievers, and so we were, and and

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Speaker 2: we had to own that. And I really can't tell

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Speaker 2: you the actual time, Jamison, But sometime last week I

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Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred percent sure until really after the loss, and.

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Speaker 3: You know, fell on my.

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Speaker 2: Instincts and and whatever I was feeling was right. I

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Speaker 2: woke up Monday and I was pretty sure that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was going to do it. And you know, I've

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Speaker 2: got great partners here and spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: with them and asking them their opinions, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I made the decision, and it was a hard one.

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Speaker 2: And as you all know in your life, timing is

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Speaker 2: never right. You can't say that timing is perfect in anything.

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Speaker 2: But I got to the point that I didn't believe

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Speaker 2: that I would feel regret after I made that decision.

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Speaker 3: And that's what instinct is.

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Speaker 2: When you finally get to the point that you're pretty

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Speaker 2: damn sure that you are not going to regret the

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Speaker 2: decision a day or a week later, then that's the

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Speaker 2: time to make the decision.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair, Steve?

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Speaker 6: Did you speak with Lamar before you made the decision

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Speaker 6: and how would you characterize the influence he or other players'

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Speaker 6: opinions on the situation had on your decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked to a bunch of the veterans, and uh,

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Speaker 2: you know it's it's funny, as you all know, you've

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Speaker 2: gotten to know Lamar about as well as I have.

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Speaker 2: And Lamar is really really a non confrontational person. And

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Speaker 2: when I spoke to him Monday night, he said, to me,

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Speaker 2: everybody's saying.

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Speaker 3: I got a problem with Monken.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have a problem with Monk, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know where that comes from. And he said, and

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Speaker 2: then I hear, I've got a problem with Harbes, and

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with Harbes. I don't know

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Speaker 3: Ah, we got.

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Speaker 2: To make changes, probably, but that's that's probably more for

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Speaker 2: you and E and I said, well, your your opinion matters.

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Speaker 3: Uh, And we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: And but again he was one of the many I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna turn my phone off before it starts ringing, didn't

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Speaker 2: put it on Vibe brain. And so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the players had and really a

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Speaker 2: You know, that's an eighty twenty thing. And I don't

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Speaker 2: think I'd be a very good leader if I didn't

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Speaker 2: ask the heads of the you know, the top players

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Speaker 2: in my organization that have been here the longest, and

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Speaker 2: you can bet they're the ones that have been here

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Speaker 2: the longest. So no, Lamar did not have an outsized

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Speaker 2: part of my decision. My decision, I think by Monday

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Speaker 2: I got off the phone with Lamar, I had told

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Speaker 2: and that I think my position was pretty set and that.

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Speaker 2: But when I hang up from you, I don't want

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Speaker 2: you to think the decision is ironclad.

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Speaker 3: So that was Monday night.

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Speaker 7: Steve, right here, You've known John obviously a very long time.

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Speaker 7: You're very close. Why the decision to fire him initially

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Speaker 7: over the phone, and then secondly, what was the conversation

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Speaker 7: the gist of the conversation that you guys had a

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Speaker 7: couple of days.

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Speaker 3: One A good question.

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Speaker 2: I never in my mind, in my you know, I

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Speaker 2: never dreamed of firing somebody by phone. But the reality is,

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Speaker 2: when I made my decision on Tuesday afternoon, I was

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Speaker 2: home and he was in his car heading to his house,

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Speaker 2: and I thought it would kind of be a jerk

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Speaker 2: move to call him up and say, hey, coach, meet

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Speaker 2: me at the office in an hour. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: probably would. I said yes, Steve, I'd rather not want

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Speaker 2: just tell me over the phone. And when I did

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Speaker 2: tell him the decision that I made, I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: really sorry about doing this over the phone. I wish

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Speaker 2: we were together, and he said, you don't owe me

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Speaker 2: an apology for that either. Did I answer your whole question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was interesting because you know, obviously it was emotional,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be honest with you, most of that emotion

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Speaker 2: came from me. I told my brother. I said, it

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Speaker 2: was the craziest firing in the world. I was the

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Speaker 2: one choked up, and he was the one consoling me.

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Speaker 3: He said, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't owe me anything, and you can picture John. You

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Speaker 2: don't owe me anything. He said, you gave me eighteen years.

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Speaker 2: He said, you picked a special teams guy who does that.

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Speaker 2: He said, you altered mine and Grid's life forever because

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Speaker 2: you took a chance on me. I am happy and

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Speaker 2: content and disappointed, but I love you, and I respect you,

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Speaker 2: and I respect your decision, and uh, you know, at

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Speaker 2: the time, it was not something that I was going

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Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time with, and so, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I called him on Thursday and I left

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Speaker 2: a message and I said, hey, I'm around for the

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Speaker 2: next few hours, I'd love to talk. And he texted

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Speaker 2: me back, he said, I'll call you in about thirty

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Speaker 2: minutes and uh. And we had a really good conversation.

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Speaker 2: And you know, interestingly, he didn't talk about the details.

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Speaker 2: I talked about the I talked about the negative narratives

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Speaker 2: of things that we own together. And I said, you know, John,

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Speaker 2: probably one.

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Speaker 3: Of the one of the one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things that made it easier for me once I came

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Speaker 2: to this conclusion is I didn't have to worry about

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Speaker 2: whether you were going to land on your feet, because

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Speaker 2: I think either your toes or your heels are already touching,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to become the most sought after coach

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Speaker 2: in years. And then I talked to him about taking

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Speaker 2: a year off. I said, you know, you're sixty three

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Speaker 2: years old, Alison, just went to law school.

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Speaker 3: You're an empty nester.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you go to work for somebody else,

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Speaker 2: I get offsets. So I'm saving a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 2: But I'd be more than happy to give you a

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Speaker 2: very expensive paid vacation for a year if you and

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Speaker 2: Ingland would pray on that and come to the decision

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Speaker 2: that you could go out and travel and golf together

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Speaker 2: and rifle. She's a marksman now, and they do love

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Speaker 2: to travel when they're free. And I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: a whole year of that at sixty three is a

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Speaker 2: lot different than if you take another job, and that

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Speaker 2: is and that is seventy five. As we get older,

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Speaker 2: you start realizing that, you know, five year chunks are

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Speaker 3: And so I.

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Speaker 2: Really, really really would have hoped that he took a

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Speaker 2: eighty hours a week and got a chance because I said,

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Speaker 2: like your friend Sean Payton, you'll still be the hottest

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Speaker 2: coach next year, and you can do a little broadcasting

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Speaker 2: and you can do a little traveling and then you

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Speaker 2: can get back into it. So I sounds from what

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Speaker 2: I'm reading now, he's not going to do that. But

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Speaker 2: he's also interviewing in a real, real, real.

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Speaker 3: Position of strength.

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Speaker 2: So if he doesn't like what he sees and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't like the organization, once he digs in, you know,

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Speaker 2: you can bet he's not going to take a job

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have a quarterback. He's a little too young,

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Speaker 2: he's a little too old to be sitting around saying

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Speaker 2: what's the draft to look like, you know, and how

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Speaker 2: many picks do you have, and let's start studying those

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Speaker 2: college quarterbacks. So I only thought there was a couple

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Speaker 2: thought he could take, it take, should take, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see if I manifest correctly.

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Speaker 8: Steve, this is only the second time you'll have to

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Speaker 8: go through the process with your leadership team to hire

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Speaker 8: a head coach. Because you've had so much success in

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Speaker 8: eighteen years. Are you essentially telling your next head coach

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Speaker 8: you need to get to the Super Bowl fast?

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Speaker 2: Well, it took Billick two years, John five, Maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: give this guy six.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope we picked the kind of guy

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Speaker 2: a roster that's capable of it. I think we have

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Speaker 2: a GM that's capable of making that roster better on

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Speaker 2: the fly. And yeah, I'll be patient to that point.

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Speaker 3: Jerry.

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Speaker 2: I've probably give them five or six years, as long

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Speaker 2: as I like everything else I see in him.

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Speaker 9: Eric, can you talk about how important it is for

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Speaker 9: this organization to re sign Lamar Jackson to a contract

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Speaker 9: extension this offseason?

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Speaker 4: Well, it would certainly give us more flexibility, you know,

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Speaker 4: cap wise roster building. I think that we've done a

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Speaker 4: good job. You know, we carried over this year almost

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Speaker 4: ten million dollars, just over ten million dollars in money,

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Speaker 4: probably double what we have in the last you know, however,

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Speaker 4: many years.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: We do have a nice little nest egg. It's not

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Speaker 4: as much as we'd like. A deal with Lamar would

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Speaker 4: give us the ability to be more active, to to

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Speaker 4: re sign some probably more players on the team, and

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Speaker 4: the potential to go after, you know, a couple big

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of interesting because when we started

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Speaker 2: That's impossible. So if I hire an offensive coordinator or

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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you we.

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Speaker 3: Happening a lot lately.

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Speaker 3: Maybe more than a dozen, it's a lot.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, when you make a decision like you did with John,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. You know, the hits and

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Speaker 2: I'm just making up a number for you. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to look at Eric's two hundred whiffs. I'll

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Speaker 2: You know, to me, that's fair. I'm very very pleased

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question, you know, and I've talked

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Speaker 3: If Ozzie had come to me and said, what do

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Speaker 2: I've already built a super Bowl team. I think he

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Speaker 3: Did it ever happen? Not once, So I don't know

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Speaker 2: I think that this is such a partnership that I

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Speaker 2: So I think it works. Even though I work remotely

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Speaker 2: Do you guys you're a questions You're not giving it up.

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Speaker 12: We're trying to get them all in all right, you

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Speaker 2: I talked to Lamar last night and I told him

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Speaker 3: But if I was a.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I said to Lamar, you can jump on

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Speaker 3: Get up there.

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Speaker 2: But if you're that interested, then then we're going to

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be awesome? Only if John takes the Pittsburgh job. Wow,

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Speaker 3: Good for Mike. Yeah, I don't know, talk to him.

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Speaker 4: On John's situation on Justin Mettebeek ATNMBI, Oh, okay, you know,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, honestly, when you when you when you're underachieve,

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Speaker 4: affecting the quarterback, affecting the pocket would be would be

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00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: I think something big, you know, I know the offensive

440
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: line seemed to be a narrative this year. You know,

441
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 4: in some games the line play well, in other games

442
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: we struggled. I think we have pieces. I think we've

443
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: got to be more consistent on the offensive line. We

444
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: just didn't gel quite as bit, quite as much this

445
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: year in that way. And yet I say that, and

446
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: I think we led the league in rushing maybe, and

447
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: that was with less quarterback driven runs. So I don't

448
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: think it's one specific thing. I think we underachieved in

449
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: as a scouting staff, as a coaching staff, as players.

450
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: I think across the board, we have to own that,

451
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: and I think we will. I think we're excited about it.

452
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: We've been in this position before many times over the

453
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: last thirty years, where We've had to rebuild and tweak

454
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: and change and adjust and really look at ourselves and say,

455
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: what can we do better. I think it starts with me,

456
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: it starts with the new coaching staff. I think the

457
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: players will be accountable as well.

458
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: I think the coaches have to take a lot of

459
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: that too, because I think that sitting here last year,

460
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: everybody said that it was our offensive line in our

461
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: past rushing because Eric had to replace three offensive linemen,

462
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: and he did it and it worked well. And I

463
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: think we finished second in sacks last year after everybody

464
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: was calling that are two weaknesses we got in here,

465
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: and those are the exact same things that everybody said.

466
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: I think Metabike is part of the reason why Kyle

467
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: Vanoi went from ten and a half sack twelve sacks

468
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: to two. I think it was a domino effect, a

469
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: trickle effect. I think Travis Jones being with Broderick on

470
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: and met a Bike gone, God blessed Travis. I think

471
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: he did the very best he could, but if he

472
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: had had Metabike next to him, he'd have been singled

473
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: all year long, and instead they were.

474
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: Able to double him all year long. And so.

475
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: And I think and I think those offensive linemen didn't improve.

476
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: And so when I said the coaches, that's what I meant.

477
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: I think that you can look at a lot of

478
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: guys on our team that we had expected to take

479
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: the next step that did not take that next step,

480
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: and we've got to get to the bottom of that

481
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: with coaching and scouting.

482
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 15: Hey, Steve, good to see right here as far as

483
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 15: how important are fan voices when he comes to crafting

484
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 15: big decisions to seeing empty seats at halftime at some

485
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 15: of these games were a prime time failure this year.

486
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 15: After you guys go through all that you do to

487
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 15: put on an incredible spectacle for that game, how important

488
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 15: was that? How do you gauge it with social media?

489
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 15: Can be a really loud voice, and it can be

490
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 15: you know, but a very small minority has How do

491
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 15: you go about doing that? And how important is it?

492
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: Uh?

493
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that important, Pete.

494
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: I just don't know. You know.

495
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: I know the volume went up this year, and I

496
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: know the majority of that turned on John, and I

497
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: think it did affect me. It was it was one

498
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: of the things that I'm putting together. And I'll be

499
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: honest with you. It it when you say the effect

500
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: it had. You know what effect it had on me.

501
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't stand people attacking my friend. So some of

502
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: the stuff that they talked about with John.

503
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: Ate me alive.

504
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: And so, like I said, part of my feeling, like

505
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 2: when my instinct says, now's the time, it was I

506
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: get to relieve John of all that crap too, and

507
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: John gets to start anew and John gets to be

508
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: the everybody's number one choice to be that And so

509
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: I kind of thought again that it was there is

510
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: never a good time. But we went backwards the last

511
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: three years. You know, that to me was a bigger thing.

512
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: But they're putting that on John and John and John

513
00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: and John, and so you know, part of it to

514
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: me was if if the narrative is that bad, then

515
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: we need to shake it up. And like again, knowing

516
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: that John uh was didn't have far to fall it

517
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: made it much easier for me to make that decision,

518
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: right because I know it wasn't going to hurt him

519
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: that bad. And when I talked to him on Thursday, gosh,

520
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: she was giving me advice to the ravens. I was

521
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: giving him advice to these openings.

522
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: And so I mean, we're going to be friends forever.

523
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Uh And and now I know, I know John went

524
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: from being hammered by the press, and I don't know

525
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 2: how much Ingrid reads, but I'm sure she does some

526
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: prec You know, we've got some protective mama bears out

527
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: there that don't like their their husband's being uh uh.

528
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: Treated like that.

529
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: But because it's so anonymous, it's really a major major

530
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: accumulation that I see there. But a lot of them

531
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: are talking the truth, if you will. In other words,

532
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: AFC Championship to Division round to not making the playoffs,

533
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: we own that that's us. And so unfortunately John was

534
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: the one to take it. But I'm if I had

535
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: fired Eric to get he'd have been the hottest GM

536
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: available in this cycle too. And so John was the

537
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: one to go. But it wasn't. It's not a major

538
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: factor for me. It really isn't. It's our it's our

539
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: world here and and I think that I'm pretty good

540
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: at keeping it in my major decisions.

541
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: Close to home.

542
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 16: Question for Eric, as you go through the search process

543
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 16: looking for the next head coach, what can you share

544
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 16: about what's happening in order to conduct this search process

545
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 16: and what you're looking forwards you as you narrow down

546
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 16: the list to the group of finalists.

547
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know, fortunately, I think we were prepared, I

548
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: think ahead of time, which was good. We started a

549
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: day late compared to some of our opponents who started

550
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: on Monday. We started really on Tuesday, Tuesday night. We

551
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 4: want leaders. We want the best leader we can find.

552
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: We want somebody who's going to hold the players accountable.

553
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: We want somebody who's an expert in x's and o's

554
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: that we want somebody who the players can relate to,

555
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: but also somebody that's going to be firm and continue

556
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: the culture that we've built, which we think is important.

557
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 4: And as we've gone through our first seven or eight

558
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: interviews that we've had, it's apparent that this is a

559
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: job that coaches cove it. Number one. They appreciate the

560
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: roster that we have. They admire this organization for the

561
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: continuity that Steve and mister Modell before him put in place,

562
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: and they see that this is really a destination place

563
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: for coaches. So I think we're gonna be in a

564
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: good position. There's a lot of interest. I have never

565
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: been through this process like this. I had no idea

566
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: how many phone calls that I would get from people, agents,

567
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: from coaches, people in the media, the national media, the

568
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: local media, like, there's just tremendous interest in this particular opportunity.

569
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: And I feel very confident with our people, with our staff,

570
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: with Steve, who's an expert in finding people, with Ozzie

571
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: who has done this before and found a Hall of

572
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: Fame coach. Along with Steve, some of the other guys

573
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: sitting up here, I'm very confident we're gonna get the

574
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 4: best coach to take us to the next step.

575
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 17: Steve, do you sense an urgency from Lamar to sign

576
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 17: another extension? And are you one hundred percent sole that

577
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 17: you want him to be the central figure in the

578
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 17: organization for the foreseeable future.

579
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I want him to be my quarterback. Excuse me, I

580
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: want him to be my quarterback. I told him his

581
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: extension was, you know, we had some we had some

582
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: mechanism to keep him in place last year that we

583
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: don't or three years ago that we don't necessarily have now.

584
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: So I need to make sure that there's only one way.

585
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: If he doesn't want to do an extension, then we

586
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: throw those seventy four million out into void years and

587
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: Lamar's coming back at the same cap number he was

588
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: last year.

589
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 3: You know, you can play with that money all you.

590
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Want, that's not what we want. You know, we want

591
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: another window. And Lamar knows that, and I think that

592
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: he's amenable to doing something that mirrors the last deal

593
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: he did, although the annual number will be a little higher.

594
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that it's plug a new number in

595
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: the same contract he signed last year and move on.

596
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 2: And the urgency of that matters to me because we've

597
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: got free agents and I don't want to go into

598
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: free agency without hanging over our head. And I made

599
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: that clear to Lamar, and I think he was very

600
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: appreciative of my stance and hopefully willing to work with

601
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: Eric and not get this thing dragged out into April

602
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: like it was the last time. Very hard for him

603
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: him to build a roster when that thing is not settled.

604
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 17: Steve Garrett to work in the Business Journal, you spent

605
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 17: many years running a staffing company, or any experiences or

606
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 17: lessons that you can you learn from that chapter, you

607
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 17: can pull them with his coaching serch.

608
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: You know, I think I used them eighteen years ago

609
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: to pick John. So I've gotten a lot of nice

610
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: texts from some of the leaders. Most of them are

611
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: all retired by now. And those were those thin resume

612
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: guys that I talked about when I introduced John and

613
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: said I made my life on people with thin resumes.

614
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: So no, I think most of my.

615
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: Recent experience in the NFL it will be what I'm

616
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: looking for because I kind of am a little more

617
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: tied into what that means. Let me be clear, I

618
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: am much more interested in the guys like Sasha and

619
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: Eric and Ozzie that are working with this guy seventy

620
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: hours a week then maybe I was.

621
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: Back then.

622
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: You know, I was much more engaged. I was engaged

623
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I had risen to the top of

624
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: the committees, in the Broadcast Committee and Digital Media Committee,

625
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: and you know, back then, probably thought my participation was

626
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: going to I dreamed of a gold jacket like the

627
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: Maras and the Rooneys, and that kind of dissipated as

628
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: I realized that I was maybe being untrue to my

629
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 2: wife when I told her that when I bought this team,

630
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: I would treat it like more of a hobby than

631
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: a business. And I think I found myself maybe treating

632
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: it a lot more like a business. And again putting

633
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: family set. And so there was a time in ten

634
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 2: eleven twelve when I realized that in order to earn

635
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: a gold jacket as an owner, you better be putting

636
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: in their seventy hour weeks.

637
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: And I wasn't willing to do that.

638
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: So when I stepped back from that, and I'm very

639
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: happy I did, I had enough time to care about

640
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: the Ravens, and I figured the NFL can survive without me.

641
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: And so I want very much this person to be

642
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: picked by Eric.

643
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: And Oz and Sash more than me.

644
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: When I come in, when they call me in for

645
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: these five, I'm going to already know why they love them,

646
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: and I'm going to come back and I'm going to

647
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: give just them my honest opinions, my reservations. If there

648
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: are any on individuals that may be a red flag

649
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: that they didn't see. So I would I hope that

650
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: when I spend a lot of time with these people

651
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: that I might unearth some.

652
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: Some things which I think.

653
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm really good at unearthing some details that maybe others missed,

654
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: and I think that I'd like to feed that into

655
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: them and if it changes their top five, you know,

656
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: then great. And if it doesn't, I want these guys

657
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: to be partners. I mean what John and Eric and

658
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: Ozzie went through these last ten years. I love John

659
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: like a brother, but I didn't work side by side

660
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: with him all day long, and so I know that

661
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: this is the hardest thing that.

662
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: We've ever had to do.

663
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: And I don't think any one of you think we

664
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: blame John completely for our falling off our quest for

665
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowls.

666
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 11: Steve over here, I do have a two part question

667
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 11: for you.

668
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: I knew you would, Jerry, I'm surprised you didn't have

669
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: a four part question.

670
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: If they would allow me, I would.

671
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 17: If Tyler Loup makes that field goal?

672
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: Is John Harbass still here.

673
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: Coaching this team for a week? For a week, okay?

674
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 6: And then I guess a follow up, because it's been

675
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 6: a while.

676
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 18: What was your role?

677
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 11: What was your input with the whole Justin Tucker situation

678
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 11: and how that went down and led to Tyler Lup

679
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 11: being here. We haven't heard from you about that, so

680
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 11: I was anxious to hear none.

681
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: When the reports came out. How did you take all

682
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: that reaction and how did you defer to Eric and John.

683
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 10: Do you think if Justin were here it would have

684
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 10: been different?

685
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: No fair enough. I mean, you mean, I do I

686
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: think you would have made the kick? Yeah? Maybe?

687
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: How do you know?

688
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: How do you know? How do you know?

689
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 9: Eric?

690
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Feel terrible for Tyler. He's going to be a great kicker.

691
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: He's going to learn from this. Every one of them

692
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: have learned from those mistakes. It's a terrible job. I

693
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: mean terrible job in the NFL. It really is. You

694
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: have to earn. You have to work twice. It's hard

695
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: to earn people's respect and then they can hate in

696
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: a second. And so I think that kid's resilient enough

697
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: from what I've learned, He'll be our kicker next year.

698
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: He did a great job, came in big shoes, a

699
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 4: lot of pressure, he had a great season.

700
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 19: Eric, this one's for you. Is there a timeline that

701
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 19: you have in mind while you're doing several of these

702
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 19: head coaching interviews throughout the next week or so, just

703
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 19: because in the sense that they have to then create

704
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 19: their own staff as well. I guess which is sort

705
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 19: of assumed. But is that the case of there a

706
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 19: timeline just because everything that happens afterwards as well.

707
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm kind of thinking of this process like

708
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: it's a three week NFL Draft, and you know, I've

709
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: been through a lot of drafts, and so this is

710
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: expedited certainly, but I think we are trying to get

711
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: as many interviews done as we can. I've never been

712
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: a part of this only once, and we interviewed a

713
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: much smaller amount of people back then. We didn't have

714
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: the ability back then to even use zoom, didn't know

715
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: what zoom was. Rules right now kind of force us

716
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: into that Zoom world, and so we're taking advantage of it.

717
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: I've learned a ton of football, a lot of stuff

718
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: in the last week. I think my partners would say

719
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: the same thing. It's been a fascinating process. We've got,

720
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: you know, I think another eight interviews, maybe nine interviews

721
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: between now and believe it or not, Sunday, and may

722
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: be a couple more after that, and then we'll kind

723
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: of take that of fifteen to twenty interviews candidates, whittle

724
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: that down to you know, four or five. Try to

725
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: assemble as a group and figure out, you know, the

726
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: five guys that really resonate with us, that have the

727
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: most qualities that we're looking for craft what that schedule

728
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: might look like. Bring those guys in again for a

729
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: day we've had a couple guys on site, but you know,

730
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: bring those other five candidates in, talk to them with

731
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 4: maybe a few other people in the loop as well,

732
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: and then see if we can find a candidate. I

733
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: think staffing wise, again, given the rules, very hard for

734
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: coaches to really fill out their staffs until really around

735
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. It's challenging and now it's not as

736
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: easy as it used to be in a lot of

737
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: different ways. I go back to when Seattle hired Mike McDonald,

738
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: they waited until after we played in the AFC champions

739
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: to interview for the first time. So we're ahead of

740
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: the game. I think in many ways, we've talked to

741
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: some really good candidates. We've asked them about assistant coaches.

742
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 4: That's that's typically a question that you might ask, what's

743
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: your staff going to look like. We've been able to

744
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: get a lot of good information on what their coaching

745
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: staffs might look like, and then the strategy for us

746
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: is to really look at you know, and again I

747
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: think it's not just the head coach, it's who is

748
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 4: this coordinators, what are they going to look like? Offensive

749
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: line coach, secondary coach, and find the right combination of

750
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 4: coaches that make us better.

751
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 20: Steve, you mentioned having some level of patience for the

752
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 20: new coach.

753
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: Just for me, Yes, Steve, I'm sure.

754
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 20: You mentioned having some level of patients for the new

755
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 20: head coach. So what will your measures of success be

756
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 20: to determine if things are moving forward as you envision

757
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 20: for the organization.

758
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, if we fail, then all a shay his contribution

759
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: to that failure, because like I said, this is a

760
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: this isn't all hands on deck.

761
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: When we fail, we fail together. And so.

762
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's Eric's job to mentor him and

763
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: guide him in our culture. Hope he understands it and

764
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: can add to that culture. What we do on the field,

765
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: you know, it will play a role. But I certainly

766
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: hope to get back to the playoffs and I certainly

767
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: hope to overachieve. So it's really hard for me because

768
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this to be

769
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: back like some of my partners doing this every three

770
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: or four years.

771
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that's that's hell on earth. So

772
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna make it.

773
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna make it right, and we're we're gonna make

774
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: it's so right that we're going to have a lot

775
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: of patience. Is that fair to say we're going to

776
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: be so confident in our choice that we're going to

777
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: grant him a decent amount of patience.

778
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 21: For Eric, it seems like you've been in touch with

779
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 21: Lamar a lot, it sounds like, and I'm curious the

780
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 21: communication between Lamar and the coaching staff was that where

781
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 21: it needed to be this past season? Do you think?

782
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 21: And I guess how much of a priority is that

783
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 21: when you're sort of going through your innercess interview process

784
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 21: with the perspective.

785
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: Well, I think communication can always be better. I mean,

786
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: just if you think you're a great communicator, then you

787
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: need to be a better communicator. You have to over communicate.

788
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: I believe in.

789
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 4: That, and I think sometimes maybe people will get sick

790
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: of the fact that I might say, you know, make

791
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: sure we do this, make sure we do this, make

792
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: sure we do this. What do you think about this?

793
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: And it has to be that way.

794
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: And I think with players especially, they're looking for feedback,

795
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: they want to have a voice, But you've also got

796
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 4: to encourage the feedback and encourage the voice, and work

797
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: in set expectations and hold people accountable every single day.

798
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: And that's what the most successful organizations do on a

799
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: consistent basis. Whether that's whether your star quarterback or your

800
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 4: third string inside linebacker. You've got us set expectations, whole

801
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: players accountable, create a foster a relationship where they love

802
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: this place and love this culture in football is the

803
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: most important thing in their lives, and that starts with

804
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 4: our scouts selecting the right players, our coaches coaching these players,

805
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: developing these players, and our players living up to the

806
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: faith that we put in them.

807
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 22: Steve right here, how's it going, Alex Clays a WJZ.

808
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 22: You mentioned Eric and Ozzie and Sashi being involved in

809
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 22: this process.

810
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: Those are guys obviously.

811
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 22: You're very familiar with when you're interviewing candidates. How important

812
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 22: is familiarity to this organization or do you believe like

813
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 22: a fresh start completely is something that's needed.

814
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really cool question.

815
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: And it's like we've interviewed people that have been with us,

816
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: like Andy, like like Anthony Weaver, and I would think

817
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: that he would be pretty impressive in his interview because

818
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: of the time he spent here. So you're kind of

819
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: handicapping fairly person that has seen us from AFAR, but

820
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: it has no intimate knowledge of us, and I think

821
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Eric's really good at handicapping that knowledge to the lack

822
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: of knowledge, right, So I would hope that Eric's not

823
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: swayed by someone who has a lot of knowledge of organization.

824
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: I hope they don't.

825
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: I hope they don't take the pole position because they

826
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: might be a better interview because they have such intimate knowledge.

827
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: I think pretty smart and capable of handicapping that knowledge

828
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: and taking it out of it when he's looking at

829
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: them as equals.

830
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 23: Hi, Steve Kyle Goon from The Baltimore Banner, correct me

831
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 23: if I'm wrong. I think you've said in the past

832
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 23: you don't view the Ravens as a family sort of heirloom,

833
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 23: sort of have some urgency and desire and obviously don't

834
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 23: make a change like you did with John without feeling

835
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 23: sort of competitive fire. So it's clear that you're feeling

836
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 23: that what sort of your current vision of how your

837
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 23: ownership will progress and your ownership, what your ownership looks

838
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 23: like in the next ten to fifteen years based on

839
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 23: how you're feeling now.

840
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: I'll be eighty, Kyle.

841
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: I don't see myself being I mean, all my friends,

842
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: all my favorite people in the leg twenty five years

843
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: ago were younger than I am now, and so when

844
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: I watched Jerry and Bob, I mean, I still love

845
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: them to death. They've always been there for me. They

846
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: were younger than I was when I met them and

847
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: joined this league. So I know that's always been a

848
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: topic of conversation. How long am I going to because

849
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: I kind of always said, I don't think, well, I'm

850
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: not passing it down to the family. I made that

851
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: decision twenty five years ago. I don't think that's healthy

852
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: for my family. I've seen families feud and ruin over

853
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: these damn teams, and I was determined not to do it.

854
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: But when I watch guys like Art Blank and Steve

855
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 2: Ross and Jerry Jones and Jerry talking about what part

856
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: of his anatomy he would give up for a Super

857
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Bowl at eighty three years old, I don't want to

858
00:53:59,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: be there.

859
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: I really don't.

860
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: I want to win a couple of Super Bowls and

861
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: get the hell out. I'd love that to be in

862
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: the next ten years, when I'm seventy five. That's my dream.

863
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: If I got one of the top teams of seventy five.

864
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: I'll probably stay till seventy six.

865
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: So I'll probably bail somewhere around ten years from now

866
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: when I have a really bad.

867
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: Season or back to back seasons, and he'll probably be

868
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: coming with me. Right, Study's not a life for either.

869
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 9: So, Kevin Richison with the Baltimore Sun, you talked about

870
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 9: the importance of someone rushing the past rushers and how

871
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 9: that affects the defense. Would you be open to traits

872
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 9: in the first or second round to get that young

873
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 9: stud that can affect your whole defense?

874
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, I'm never opposed to getting an elite, elite player.

875
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: You know, we almost made a trade of the trade

876
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: dead and we tried to make a trade and we

877
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: didn't get it done. But I do I do think that,

878
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: you know, I think a lot about these kind of situations.

879
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 4: And it's it's not that that draft capital, right, It's

880
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 4: it's not which is always a lot. It's you're giving

881
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: up a lot of times multiple first round picks. It's

882
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 4: the combination of the draft capital and the salary, which

883
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: in some ways you know, it's prohibitive.

884
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

885
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: And I also think that you know, when you when

886
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 4: you get into that mindset that you're one player away,

887
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 4: you're right to be to be fooled, and we see

888
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 4: it every year when teams make some of these blockbuster trades.

889
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: You know, oftentimes they end up going the other way,

890
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 4: and you just can look at teams, there's so many

891
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: factors when that happens.

892
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

893
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: I still believe the best way of building the team is,

894
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, through the draft, because I've seen Ozzie do

895
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: it so many years and do it at a Hall

896
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: of Fame level. We will participate in free agency and

897
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: we will trade for players. We've done that. It's it's

898
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 4: got to be right player, right price. If there's an

899
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 4: elite Hall of Fame type talent that's available that we

900
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: think can come in and b Steve likes to call

901
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 4: them game wreckers, we look at that. We consider that

902
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: very strongly. But to do that for a really, really

903
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: good player and have to pay the exorbitant price and

904
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: also give up all the draft pick capital that can

905
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 4: set your franchise back for a long time, as we've seen.

906
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 5: Steve, you did mention that you invited Lamar to come

907
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 5: up for the interviews. If you want to see the

908
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: final round of interviews and everything. When it's all said

909
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 5: and done, how much of us say, will Lamar have

910
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: in the in the head coach selection.

911
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: A lot of say but he is no power. I

912
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 3: have the power.

913
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 2: They have opinions, and I want them all. I care

914
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: about my players very much, but I can't give them power.

915
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 23: Steve, there was a time when fans looked forward to

916
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 23: hearing from you all the time.

917
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: I think we called it the state of the Ravens.

918
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: We used to hear from you just spend every year.

919
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: Why did you stop?

920
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 23: And can we look forward to hearing more from you?

921
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: When the like Seinfeld, I ran out of good material,

922
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: I had to retire, and then he goes out and

923
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: next thing you know, he's doing like eighty shows a year.

924
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: It's like Jerry, I thought you were retired. So I

925
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: don't know.

926
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: I just always felt like if I put these guys

927
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: in charge and they got us to the playoffs, look

928
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: they gave me a and I appreciate I appreciate the

929
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: local guys and like Jeff and Jamison who are international publications,

930
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: but the majority of their focus is on us, and

931
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: the national guys don't look at us as in crisis,

932
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: and I think the closer you get to us, you see.

933
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: Crisis by us failing.

934
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: Right now, I just got to the point that I

935
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: didn't see the benefit of sitting up here and dissecting

936
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: losing in the division round. It It just it to

937
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: me it wasn't fair because it was the leaders that

938
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: were making the decisions that were going to give you

939
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 2: the best information. And I think one time I got

940
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: up here and they said, how close were.

941
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: You to firing John Harball?

942
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: And it was like that was about the time I

943
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: decided that I don't need to be up here because

944
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: I thought that your questions were so narrow to an

945
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: owner of a team that had made it to the

946
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: division round that I just didn't think it was fair.

947
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: I was probably going to put my foot in my mouth,

948
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: which I'm really good at doing that too, and so

949
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: I just bailed. I just kind of said to you guys,

950
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: when I when we don't make the playoffs, I'll be

951
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: there for you. But when we make the playoffs, I'm

952
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: just going to leave it to my specialists to explain

953
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: it all to you and what their plan is forward.

954
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: And then, interestingly enough, this is happening right now, and

955
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: it would usually happen right now, and uh, you know,

956
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: we haven't been to Jupiter, and and that's when I

957
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: will grill my leaders on their plan. They will have

958
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: two more, three more or five more weeks. Now this

959
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: could be different. I mean, we may be doing Jupiter

960
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: in April for all I know, and Eric's gonna go.

961
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: I haven't got time for that is the draft.

962
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: I trust me. I know, so I don't know when

963
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: we're going to do it. Maybe we'll skip Jupiter this year.

964
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: But that's why it wasn't It wasn't a mean spirited thing.

965
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: I promise you. I quite like being up here talking

966
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: to you all. I know how much time you put

967
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: into our team, and I appreciate it very much. And

968
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: so my uh, don't be fooled by my absence that

969
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: I have lost my respect and appreciation for this being

970
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: your job, your whole job, and you want answers, and

971
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: I will tell you today the respect that I've heard

972
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: here is off the charts.

973
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: Like I read.

974
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Jamison's analysis and I anatomy of the thing I read Jeffs.

975
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: I think you could put that all together and publish

976
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: it and just say you got all your answers. Because

977
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: they're fair minded guys, they've been with here forever. They're

978
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: my two favorites because they are the two logs, Well, Mike,

979
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: I'll throw you in there. You've been there as.

980
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: Long as they have, so just a little meaner sometimes.

981
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: So maybe I maybe I maybe you're in third place, okay,

982
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: but I'll give you out of respect for your tenure,

983
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you third place. I love your love and

984
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: your passion for my team. And what I heard today

985
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: was people that I really believe came in here open

986
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: minded and willing to give us the benefit of the doubt.

987
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: And I want you to know how much I appreciate that,

988
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: because what I was most worried about was that you

989
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: want to get into the details. Details. And I've got

990
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: some little things that that rubbed me the wrong way

991
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: for a long time, and you put them in the

992
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: back of your head, and then the little and then

993
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: you get closer, and then you start failing, and then

994
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: you bring back things that bothered.

995
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: You, and you you, you, you do.

996
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: It to justify coming to the conclusion that now is

997
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: the time.

998
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: And I just hope you respect.

999
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Me enough to know that I, one hundred percent my

1000
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: instincts told me this was the time. And I may

1001
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: be right, I may be wrong, but I did it

1002
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: because I'm in charge of doing it. And your lack

1003
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: of digging into details saved us a lot of time

1004
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: because I would have told you this is like you

1005
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: all interviewing me and saying, let's talk about your divorce

1006
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: with your wife of eighteen years, and can you tell

1007
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: me all the little things that really built up to

1008
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: We love John like a brother and it was really

1009
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: the most difficult decision.

1010
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: That we made right, but we made it.

1011
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: And the fact that you all are willing to just say,

1012
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't need to hear any of the sort of details.

1013
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: It's the big picture. We want the Ravens to succeed.

1014
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: I felt it was the right time to make the change,

1015
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: if not now, when I guess is what I'm saying

1016
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: next year, I heard that we were contemplating I wasn't

1017
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: even the decision maker contemplating replacing the offensive coordinator and

1018
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator.

1019
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: And that may have been the final nail on the coffin.

1020
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: I thought, if I'm already here and my gut is

1021
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: telling me it's time, why would I let John rebuild

1022
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: an entire staff, Because I'm going to be sitting here

1023
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: next year saying what the hell did I do last year?

1024
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: Last year was the time?

1025
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't have been fair because I think we

1026
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: had run our course, and if I didn't have the

1027
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: guts to say to my partners, you're on the fence

1028
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: and I'm on the fence, and I'm slipping on this side,

1029
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: and I believe that your love for John and your

1030
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: respect for John is holding you back this much. I

1031
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: need you to be I need you to move this much.

1032
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: I tried to take my love and respect of John

1033
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: out of it, and it's his best friend, so I

1034
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: don't know that he could, and I admire him for it.

1035
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: But I had to look at them and say, you're

1036
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: pretty close to me, you're not there. I'm going to

1037
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: push you over the edge. I'm going to make the decision.

1038
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: And I made the decision by myself, and they understood.

1039
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: We had already talked about why I was there, and

1040
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: I didn't need them to come to my side of

1041
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: the fence for me to make this tough decision. So

1042
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: it was a wonderful, wonderful marriage. We accomplished great things.

1043
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: The next coach we get, I want him to be

1044
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: a super Bowl winning coach too, and God bless him

1045
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: if he can rise up to the level John did

1046
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: and be staring at a at a gold jacket.

1047
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: So that's our job. We take it serious.

1048
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: And thank you all right for being professional enough to

1049
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: know how hard this was for us.

1050
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 18: Football fans know that traditions matter. They're what inspire us

1051
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 18: to make our masa in tostitos the traditional way, starting

1052
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 18: with whole corn kernels, no artificial flavors, colors, or preservatives,

1053
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 18: all to give you that perfect crunch. Discover your next

1054
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 18: tradition this football season. Head to the store, grab your

1055
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 18: tostito's team bag, and scan the code for a chance

1056
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 18: to score an epic experience with the Baltimore Ravens Tostitos.

1057
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 18: Tradition Matters.

1058
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,920
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1059
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