1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on a Monday. Ross Tucker filling 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: in for Dan the Monday after the draft is Dan 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: is on assignment. Appreciate everybody checking us out on Peacock 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, those of you that are hitting us 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: up on social media, at DP show and at Ross 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Tucker NFL will be joined momentarily by Howie Roseman, the 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: executive vice president and general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles. 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Still some college football stuff to get into with this. 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison News looking forward to hearing from Darren Heitner, 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: who's big into the nil stuff. And we haven't really 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: even paubly talked about the Draymond Green. So I grew 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: up a big Sixers fan, like when they had Thump 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and Bump Barkley and Mahorne, Remember the bad Boy Pistons. 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Can you imagine getting ejected back in the day, those 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: guys getting ejected for what Draymond Green did? All right? 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: What did you guys see on the play? Like we've 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: all seen the video and we've seen the foul whatever 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: you want to call it. What did you how you 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: describe what you saw in the play? If someone actually 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: what did that foul look like, oh I saw was 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: him kind of pull the guy towards him a little bit? 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: He pulled, He pulled the guy down by the jersey. 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: He didn't yank him down that hard. He was trying 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: to make him not go down too hard. I just 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: can't believe that's what you get ejected or yes, eaton, 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: But he wouldn't The player wouldn't have been going down 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: at all if Draymond hadn't pulled him down by the collar. 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: It's not like that guy was falling and Draymond was like, oh, 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: hold on, I got to save this guy. The reason 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: hard the reason he was fall out. Back in the day, 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: they used to foul Jordan Hardy. I mean, so now 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: you yank on their jersey a little bit. Well, I 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: mean he was going up and you pulled them down. 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know it's a foul. I just don't think 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: it's worth getting ejected for. He Remember when Draymond though, 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: he had that unbelievable, like this just uncanny habit of 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: somehow in his like shooting motion or whatever, he would 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: kick guys in the groin. Yes, remember that, when he 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: was just like what, I'm just shooting the ball. I 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just going up for the rebound. I 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: can't help that. My foot actually found his groin. I 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: actually love that. That's a that's a that's a that's 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: a hot move there by Draymond speaking of a hot move. 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: How about the Philadelphia Eagles. They made two hot moves 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: in the first round on Thursday night. And the guy 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: that did it Howie Roseman, the executive vice president and 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: general manager of the Eagles. Howie, my first by the way, 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show. But my first question 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: before I even get to the draft stuff, do you 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: have anything to do with the food over there? Because 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I was there in Philly, if for people don't know, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: at the Eagles cafeter I was working the draft for 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles for their Eagles dot com and their food 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: is so good. It is so good exactly what to 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: say to me? Ross like, I am obsessed with the 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: food that we have for draft weekend. So they'd said that, 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: like we're meetings and then you know Page's doing the 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty years. She's like, have you seen the men I'm like, 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: I'm sure the menus break. She's like, can you please 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: look at the menu because I know it's gonna you 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: become fier or Saturday and you're gonna care and you're 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna say I didn't seat the menu. So it is 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: so important to me about the quality of food that 65 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: we have. It's such a passion of mine. It's unbelievable. 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you Reckon, thank you, thank you for recognizing. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I had an omelet, I had as smoothie, 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I had fruit. What's it called, like a see eye 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: bowl or see I say, hey, I don't even know 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, howie, I think I tweeted 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: during the weekend. I would come out of retirement just 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: to be able to eat what you guys get to 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: eat every day. It's unreal. Now that's a different menu 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: than we give the players. Now, I just want to 75 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: be clear, you know, like we can't do that. And 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: then we get some local restaurants, your favorites. You know, 77 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable weekend. In fact, you know, 78 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: my wife said yesterday, you know, what do you want 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: a last Sunday night dinner? And you know, anything you 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: want and done with the draft, and like you know, 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: our job's over. Like I'm going on vacation, but I 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, like the last three I 83 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: don't even know, Like I freaking filled it the last 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: three day. You know, I'm glad to recognized, all right, 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: So speaking of exciting, So I'm there and it felt like, 86 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: howie the trade up from fifteen to thirteen to get 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis and then the A. J. Brown trade with 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: the eighteenth overall pick. In my mind, that all happened 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: in like five to ten minutes. I know it was 90 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: probably longer than that, but it felt like five ten minutes. 91 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Like, when did you start to 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: lay the groundwork and when did you have a pretty 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: good idea that that was going to happen. Well, to 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: the credit of the Titans and Jay rob John Robinson 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: tremendous general manager of the Tennessee Titans, you know, our 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: trade with them was done. But at the same time, 97 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, we weren't gonna gonna make a trade with 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: the first round pick and have a guy with one 99 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: year left on his deal, so we had to do 100 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: an extension um toward Dandy um AJ's agent. We've we've 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: done a lot of deals with obviously Jimmy Sex in 102 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: a long time relationship with him. Um, so we just 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: had to do it, but it wasn't done. So we're 104 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: we're kind of, you know, kind of dealing with the 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: fact that we have two picks and we had to 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: make sure that first pick was right because really that's 107 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: the anchor. That's the anchor, like that first pick in 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: the draft, and shoot, I'm not so sure Jordan Davis 109 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: can't anker handle an anchor. Like we had the pen 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: relas this week. You know, man that guys are free. 111 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: So um, so we had to do that. And then 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, like we don't have the deal 113 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: done and so um gotta go and try to finish 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: that deal because you know, you want to be fair 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: to John Robinson, you know, like it's kind of like, 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: am I pick in eighteenth? Then I you know what's 117 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: going on here? Um. And at the same time, you 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: know Philly, you know, Philly are off, you know, and 119 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: just imagine that, like, you know, we can't get a 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: deal with AJ and all of a sudden, three days 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: later it's reported like we can't get a deal. We 122 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: had a j Brown, we couldn't get him, boy, and 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be good. That would be good. So you know, 124 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: there weren't many people who knew about this, and so 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: a part of it was like we also wanted to 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: have a competitive angage of no one knowing what we 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: were trying to do in the first round, so nobody 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: trade up in front of us and get one of 129 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: the players. If we had a receiver, that probably changes 130 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: the approach for teams of our first pick. And you know, 131 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the same thing with Jay Rob. Rob wanted to make 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: sure he got what he wanted. So we were like, 133 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna not tell anyone except obviously, you know, Jeffrey knows, 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Nick knows, and then when we're on the clocket eighteen, 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: we're just gonna announce this trade and then it's gonna 136 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: come out after that. So what was cool about it 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: is we did the deal. I think we're done with 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: the deal, either pick fourteen or fifteen. And and then 139 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: like still the people in our draft room didn't know 140 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: what was going on, and then we brought everyone in. 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, we're on the clock at eighteen, and I'm 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: sure people out of favorite who were going to pick 143 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: there and and basily said, hey, we traded the pick, 144 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I think people know at this point 145 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: that we traded the pick, and I was like, got 146 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: any So, so that's interesting. So you had the trade 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: parameters worked out with the Titans, but you were literally 148 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: on the clock with A. J. Brown's agent because if 149 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: you don't get him signed to a contract or agreed 150 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: to by the eighteenth pick, you wouldn't have done the trade. 151 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: So that that's got to be about as intensive negotiations 152 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: because usually you have time for any kind of contract negotiation. 153 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: You're talking like a span of minutes deadline to get 154 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: a big contract done. Now we are dealing with it 155 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: the whole day. So it wasn't like that was the 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're starting it when the draft starts, we're 157 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: dealing with it. But yeah, we had work to do 158 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: and credits everyone involved. Yeah, but you had a deadline. 159 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: You had to get it done. Um. You also, second 160 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: year in a row, you moved up a couple spots 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: to draft the guy you really wanted last year, Davante Smith, 162 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: who had a tremendous rookie year. This year was for 163 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. Walk us through those trades too. You talk 164 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: about the prams with the Texans, I'm assuming before the 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: draft and you just kind of have intel, or you 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: have a gut feeling, or just there's a decent chance 167 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: that the team in front of you might like the 168 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: same guy. Well, you know, obviously tremendous respect for the 169 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, and they got a tremendous player. I think 170 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: for us, it was just it was important for us 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: that we got this player, this fit. It just made 172 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: sense for our team and how we wanted to build it, 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and so we just didn't want to take the rets, 174 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm sure they they're static about the 175 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: player they got is a great player and a great person. 176 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say I knew what they 177 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: were doing because you know, Eric Ozzy, coach Harves. I mean, 178 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: those guys are really good at what they do. I 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: think for us, it was just ensuring we got the 180 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: right player for the Philadelphiagles. So let's talk about Jordan Davis. 181 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: I love the guy. I was trying to get him 182 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: to win the Heisman last year during the season. I 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: guess the one critique I think is interesting about him 184 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: how he is the lack of you know, pass rush 185 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: stats and pass rush production. But what's funny to me 186 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: about that, I guess is that's the same thing people 187 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: are saying about Treyvon Walker, who was the number one 188 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. It's the same thing they're saying 189 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: about Wyatt, who was a first round pick. And looking 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: at the stats for Georgia last year, it almost feels 191 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: like your third round picking na Kobe Dean with six 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and a half second, Like there's only so many stats 193 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: to go around, right well, And I think also, you know, 194 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: you got to look at what they're asking to do there, 195 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: right for sure, you also have to look at the 196 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: fact and you know, our scouts are our analytics group, 197 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: like they all they because neither of the conversation and 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: draft rooms like convince me that I shouldn't be worried 199 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: about this, you know, because you see it in his body. 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean you see him as a nose one on 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: one with the center, and you see the pushback, you 202 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: see him looping on stunts, and you see he's got 203 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: closing speed. And I think one of the great points 204 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, this team won a lot of 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: games by a lot of points, and so like they 206 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: have a lot of five star guys. Is he playing 207 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when all due respect, they're beating 208 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Georgie or Southern by forty points, right, Like, is that 209 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: a situation where like, you know he's going and he's 210 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: just you know, they're winning by two touchdowns in the 211 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he's just rushing. You know, you don't see 212 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: that as much. And I think the same thing, like 213 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: he had a sack against Alabama that was called back 214 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: there was a penalty. That doesn't know does a change 215 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: down when he's got three and a half sacks or 216 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: fourth stack? So I think for us, we knew what 217 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: was in his body, we knew what kind of player 218 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: he could be. I mean, this is a guy even 219 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: saying all that, you know, all the awards, it was 220 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: the top ten in the Husman voting, right, won the 221 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: Alan Trophy. Like, we're not talking about a guy who 222 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: didn't who wasn't productive, helped you know, the number one 223 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: rank defense in the country. So we understand all that. 224 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: And obviously listen, if this guy had eight sacks, would 225 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: he be anywhere near the thirteenth pick in the draft? Cross? 226 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: No way, I mean, the guy's going in the top five. 227 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Well that's why I was going to say, if Georgia 228 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: had him out there for more obvious passing downs, he's 229 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: a top five pick and you guys don't have a 230 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: chance to get him in the first place. I mentioned 231 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the third round pick in the Kobe Dean. You know, 232 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of comments that came out as he 233 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: was falling in the draft about his health. I guess, 234 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: can you just walk us through the process? You know, 235 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I guess different teams doctors have different opinions. What is 236 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: the process for evaluating guys grading their health and what 237 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: were you told? Well, I think for the first thing 238 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: is that's a huge part of why we go to 239 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Andy in the combine and there are guys who go 240 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: and have more information, and then teams they share medical information. 241 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't mean everyone's got the same opinion, 242 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: but they share, hey, we got more risks, we got 243 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: less risk and our docts do a great job of that. 244 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: And then you have a medical meeting about a week 245 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: before the draft. You know, some teams kind of maybe 246 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: do it earlier, sometimes some teams maybe later. But and 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: we basically say this is where we're at, this is 248 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: where we are on these guys, and you know we're there, 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna put them on the board or not. You know, 250 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: if this is a foul, We're not going to put 251 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the kid on the board. And so, you know, coming 252 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: out of that medical meeting, I didn't think the issue 253 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: with NA Kobe was the medical I thought the issue 254 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: in n Kobe was like, if we don't take him 255 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: in the top twenty, are we getting this guy? Probably 256 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: not right, He's probably gone. And so when we got 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: into Friday, you know, you have these conversations with your 258 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: docs and you basically say, hey, you're a couple of 259 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: guys that we're looking at at fifty one and the 260 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Kobe's there and there, and you know, they kind of 261 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: re walked us through it, and um, at the end 262 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: of the day, we decided to take Cam only because 263 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: stubbornly convicted about old line D line, right, like those 264 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: guys the same. But that's just that's how we roll here, 265 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, um, you got to stand 266 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: for something, and that's what we want to stand for. 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: And so we took Cam. But those are the two guys, 268 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, I'm sure a bunch of 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: our scouts were, you know, love Cam, but also like, man, 270 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: that's the Kobe Dean and so then you know it's 271 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of like uh, And at that time you're saying, hey, 272 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: this guy's falling. You guys good, and yeah, we're good, 273 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: and then he's fallen more and then it almost becomes 274 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: like we must be missing something here, you know, like 275 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: we must say so there's probably between our pick the 276 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: first ten picks, you're just like he's going, you know, 277 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: so you don't even worry about it. You're so far away. 278 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: But as we got about fifteen picks away, like, I'm superstitious, 279 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to jinx it, like I didn't 280 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: want to because I really wasn't anticipating him be there. 281 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: And I think as we got closer, I'm like, are 282 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: we short? Like I think I like three times I 283 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: called are we short? Like this is how he if 284 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: he's on this team, he'll be out there a rookie 285 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: minicamp next week, you know. And so then it's just like, um, 286 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: let's seek Nakobe Dean, like right, like it doesn't matter. 287 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: Like it was funny because we got a few trade 288 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: calls at that point, and obviously we didn't have a 289 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: lot of volume in this draft based on the trades 290 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: we did in the first round, and we started with 291 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: ten picks and definitely end up with ten picks. It's like, 292 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: we actually got our amazingly good offers in the third 293 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: round and some of those trades ended up happening, so 294 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: you can look at them. But it was like, man, 295 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: we can't mess around. I mean the Kobe Dean. It's like, 296 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: is there more Philadelphia Eagle than Nikobe? Love it? How 297 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: we really appreciate the time. Thank you so much for 298 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Appreciate you having me have a 299 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: great day. Yeah you too. There he is Howie Roseman, 300 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles executive vice president and general manager. They had 301 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: one of the more eventful drafts, that's for sure. Eagles 302 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: fans are so fired up because it's nice to get 303 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: draft good players. But when they've seen a J. Brown 304 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, like they've seen him make huge plays, 305 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: he kind of reminds me of like almost like a 306 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: t O when t O was in Philly. That's the 307 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: type of player he is. In Quan Bolden, were we 308 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna say Poland I was watching the draft and when 309 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean, the linebacker from Georgia, who you know at 310 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: worst was a high second round draft point choice, It's 311 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: like nobody knew why all these experts were going on air, 312 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: like the different people on the different networks, and they 313 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: didn't have answers. They were speculating about injuries or speculating 314 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: about something off the field, but nobody had answers for 315 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: hours on during the coverage. It was very odd to watch. 316 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: So here's what I think. It's really interesting and we 317 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: can talk about this later, but let's just say there 318 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: is something wrong with his peck or pet whatever they say. 319 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Let's just say, worst case scenario, he misses his rookie 320 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: year or doesn't play some games. Is it that bad? 321 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously won him for his rookie year, 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. You're getting a guy that could 323 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: have gone in the first round. In the third round, 324 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't play the first year, I still 325 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 1: think it's probably where I mean, the Ravens took Ojabo, 326 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the Michigan d n who tore his achilles, they took 327 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: him high in the second round. So at some point, 328 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: even if you think the guy's not going to play 329 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: at all that first year, it's worth it. And as 330 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: you heard Howry Roseman say, they think, I mean he's 331 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: gonna practice this weekend at mini camp, really looking for 332 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: speaking of stud college players, I wonder how many people 333 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: really know what went down Friday night, huge college football 334 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: news that we'll talk about. We come back here seventeen 335 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: minutes past the hour here on the Dan Patrick Show. Guys, 336 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: we know that as we get older, stress and lack 337 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: of energy can really start to pile on, but that 338 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we have to slow down. 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Be sure to catch us 358 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 359 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can find 360 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 361 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. So I have been looking 362 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: forward to talking with Darren Heightener like all weekend. You 363 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: need to check him out on Twitter at Darren Heightner. 364 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: He's an attorney and arbitrator. He's got a lot of 365 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: stuff going with sports entertainment, intellectual property. But he's on 366 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: here today because he knows as much about nil which 367 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: is so almost a year now, name, image and likeness 368 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: as anyone out there, and arguably one of the five 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: best players in college football is a free agent right now. 370 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: His name is Jordan Addison. He's a wide receiver from 371 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: pitt who absolutely tore up the ACC last year. I 372 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: mean the guy won the blitt Nikoff. So we just 373 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: watched the NFL Draft Thursday night. We saw Drake London 374 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: and Jamison Williams and the two Ohio State guys and 375 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: Johan Dotson. None of them won the blitt Nikoff. Jordan 376 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: Addison from pitt won the blitt Nikov and he's, to 377 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: my knowledge, like the first college football free agent like this. 378 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: That is well, we'll find out more from Darren. We'll 379 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: find a lot more from Darren. Darren really appreciate the time, man. 380 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: I got a million questions for you, because it feels 381 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: like college football is totally changing before our eyes. It is. 382 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: And this is a bible not only of NIL rights 383 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: which were established as of July one, twenty one, but 384 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: importantly the creation and existence of the trans Reportal. You 385 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: mentioned that Jordan Addison is really our first premiere free agent, 386 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: and again, even if NIL was not in the picture, 387 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: that could still be true just by virtue of the 388 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: existence of the trans reportal And I think a lot 389 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: of people are getting ahead of themselves, and I know 390 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of people, especially on social media, are 391 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: speculating this must be about NIL. I saw something yesterday, 392 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: someone with about a thousand followers and maybe a thousand 393 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: retweets saying that he was offered three million dollars to 394 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: go to USC there is absolutely no veracity to that statement. 395 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Look at Jordan, here's an individual, as you mentioned, the 396 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: bullet Nikoff Award winner. He lost his first round quarterback, 397 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: he lost his coordinator, he lost his wide receiver coach. 398 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: So can we blame him for just putting his name 399 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: into the t reportal and looking at what the opportunities 400 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: may be out there? Remember the trade reportal opens and closes. 401 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: He had to put his name in just now before 402 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the portal closed. That's the big reason why he finds 403 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: his name in there currently. All right, So, Darren, are 404 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: you are you repping him? I guess how do you know? 405 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: How do you know what he has or hasn't got 406 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: from USC unless are you? And by the way, just 407 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: so people know, they are allowed to have agents now 408 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: they I mean you know they are allowed to have 409 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: people repping them. And I are you repping him? I 410 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: guess how otherwise how would you know what he has 411 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: or hasn't been offered? I am not currently representing him, 412 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: much like you, I have some very strong sources, people 413 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: who are very close to him, and unlike many of 414 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: the individuals who are out there speculating on social media, 415 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: hearing from those individuals I'm told that all these assumptions 416 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: that are being made are very false thus far. I 417 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: didn't work with Kenny Pickett on his intellectual property when 418 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: he was in college. I know people surrounding this specific situation. 419 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: And while I'm not representing him and I'm not an agent, 420 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer who works closely with agents and with players, 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: I do have some pretty good information. All right, So Darren, 422 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: let's just forget how much USC supposedly offered him, because 423 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I've seen the three million dollars in a house in 424 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: California and all that stuff. But let's let's get to 425 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: the crux of this. They could, right, I mean, he's 426 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: in the transfer portal, name, image, and likeness. There's these 427 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: collectives now, which I want you to explain, but it's 428 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: basically legal. Now, krit me if I'm wrong. For certain 429 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: collectives from schools like Tennessee or Texas A and M 430 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: or whoever, to say, hey, Jordan, you know there there's 431 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: a good chance you'll have a million dollars or two 432 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: million dollars of name, image and likeness money if you 433 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: come play college football here. It's a complicated question from 434 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: a legal standpoint. There are roughly twenty five states that 435 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: currently have ANI laws in place, California being one of them, 436 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: and by and large these laws actually prohibit the offering 437 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: of money to players before they're enrolled. And then if 438 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: you separate the law from the rules, I know who. 439 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: The NCAA has not really done anything since July one, 440 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to enforce its NIL regulations, but in 441 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: its bare bones rules, one of those, and I think 442 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: the most important to the NCAA, is that there can't 443 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: be compensation offered to a player contingent on the athlete 444 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: enrolling at a specific university, which is exactly what you 445 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: would have here if in fact a collective, and a 446 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: collective being a third party not part of the university, 447 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: but with a specific mission to support the university and 448 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: the athletes at a university. So if you have a 449 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: collective making an offer like this, it could put the 450 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: university itself in a pickle with the NCAA. But more importantly, 451 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: if the player actually engages in these types of conversations 452 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: before being enrolled, the athlete is putting unnecessary risk on himself, 453 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: because if the nca decides one day to wake up 454 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: and take action to enforce its rules, I think that's 455 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: where it's going to look. God forbid, someone like Jordan, 456 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: the bolit Wycoff winner ends up becoming ineligible for this 457 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: upcoming season. So I think if we're looking objectively, it 458 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense for someone like that to take 459 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: that sort of unnecessary risk. Well, so, first of all, 460 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the NCAA hasn't done anything. It doesn't seem like they're 461 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: going to do anything. They're they're not into it. Secondly, 462 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: I guess you know, I saw some contract details of 463 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: the California quarterback who's going to Tennessee, and they don't 464 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: say he has to go to Tennessee, but all of 465 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: his appearances have to be in Knoxville, Tennessee, Right, I mean, 466 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: there's ways to get around, although that would be hilarious 467 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: if he signed with Alabama just drives up to Knoxville 468 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: for all his appearances for the eight million. But I know, Darren, 469 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: you're a lawyer. I know you're telling me the letter 470 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: of the law. But I guess you'd have to tell 471 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: me like if I'm Will Anderson from Alabama, or if 472 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: I'm Bryce Young or c s if I'm any of 473 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: these guys, why do I not go in the transfer 474 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: portal and see what's out there, see what collectives might 475 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: be willing to offer me. Well, I think that it 476 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for every player. Why would a Bryce 477 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: young want to create that sort of controversy and turmoil 478 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: potentially within the locker room, especially someone like that who 479 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: is a clear leader, probably projected to be the number 480 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: one overall pick next year, and is already earning seven 481 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: figures in NIL. So it certainly doesn't make sense in 482 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: every sort of circumstance. Talking about your specific example of 483 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback from California who committed to Tennessee and there 484 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: were rumors about a big offer I think upwards of 485 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: eight million dollars to them, I want to hear something 486 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: interesting after that the offer was accepted and the player committed, 487 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee actually amended its NIL law so 488 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: that there's no longer a prohibition on causing compensation to 489 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: athletes by the universities and by the athletic department. So 490 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: we're starting to see states actually scale back on their 491 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: regulations that they put in place before the NCAA adopted 492 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: its own policy July one, twenty twenty one, I mean 493 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: realized before July one of last year, the NCA didn't 494 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: allow for any of this, which is why you saw 495 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: so many states jumped to past this type of legislation. 496 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: Now that the NCAA's involved, and as you mentioned, it's 497 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: very bare bones. The NSA has not acted in any way. 498 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: You see this sort of scaling back on a state 499 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: by state basis because of what's occurring. And that's what 500 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are concerned about scaling 501 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: back the nca doing nothing and creating the quote unquote 502 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: wild wild West. Yeah, I mean, Darren, you know, I've 503 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: taught to enough people now what some of these transfers 504 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: are getting, like group of five transfers to go to 505 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Power fives, What they're supposedly getting at least, I mean, 506 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: they're basically free agents. I don't blame them. They're getting 507 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: not only opportunity at the bigger schools, but they're getting money, 508 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: and I mean, more power to them. I guess the 509 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: one question I have about the collectives. So the collective 510 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: is these university boosters that the school boosters. They pull 511 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: together a lot of their money. So let's just say, 512 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Adison's getting a million dollars to go 513 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: to USC We're just a hypothetical example. Okay, Well I 514 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: don't understand is how do they then determine what he 515 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: does for that million dollars? Like if every guy, if 516 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: there's ten different business owners in California, they're USC fans, 517 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: they all give one hundred grand towards Jordan Addison's million bucks, 518 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: how do they know, like what he ends up doing 519 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: for the money. I feel like I'd be like, listen, 520 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: I want them at my car dealership, right, I want 521 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: them to sign autographs, or I want to post a 522 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: tweet about my company. It's all codified in contracts. So 523 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: when players are receiving these substantial sums of money from 524 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: collectives or from really any third party, even brands, they 525 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: all have to be these terms have to be written 526 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: in a contract, and the contracts must be turned into 527 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: to those universities. Every university that I'm aware of has 528 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: a specific platform that they use in order to take 529 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: in these contracts. Some actually review them, some just document them. 530 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: But one of the again barre bones regulations of the NCAA, 531 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: and there are really only three of them, is that 532 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: there must be what's called quid pro quo in every 533 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: sort of transaction. So the athlete must be doing something 534 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: in exchange for that sum of money. A lot of 535 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: people would argue, it's not real, This isn't really nil. 536 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: If an athlete is posting a few times on social 537 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: media and exchange for a million dollars, is the other 538 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: side of the table actually getting a true benefit of 539 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the bargain? But the NCAA doesn't provide specifics there. As 540 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: long as there is qui pro quo, that's what satisfies 541 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: the rule. Is there a rule that you would implement there? 542 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: And there is there a way that we could make 543 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: this better? Or do you think it's good the way 544 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: it is? It just it kind of feels like a 545 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: mess right now. To be honest with you, man, it does. 546 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: But to be honest, and I know this is going 547 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: to rub a lot of people the wrong way, I'm 548 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: actually a proponent of pulling back on the regulations and restrictions. 549 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I like the idea of creating as close to a 550 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: free market economy as possible. Similar to professional athletes, there 551 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: are absolutely no restrictions on your favorite professional athlete doing 552 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: deals outside of the salaries that they receive. And we 553 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: haven't even touched on that that college athletes aren't earning 554 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: a salary for the labor that they're providing. But I 555 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: love it As an athlete advocate, I think it's fantastic 556 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: that athletes now have this opportunity to make money off 557 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the field, off the court, etc. And if someone is 558 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: willing to pay money to an athlete, why not taking now? Again, 559 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: in the current system instructure that we have, you have 560 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: to abide by the NCAA rules for us risk the 561 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: potential being deemed ineligible, and obviously abide by the state laws. 562 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: But we also haven't seen any enforcement there thus far. 563 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm scared for the moment when that actually occurs. 564 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Darren really appreciate the time. Certainly check him out on 565 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: social media at Darren Heightener. We posted a picture at 566 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: DP show of Darren when he was like eighteen maybe nineteen, 567 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: sophomore year at college. It looks like no facial hair, 568 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: which is amazing. Thank you Darren, thanks for having me there. 569 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: He is Darren Heightener. Yes, Paulie, that's funny that picture 570 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: is he looks like he's twelve. Okay, So if he 571 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: wants a free market system for college athletes, I'm not 572 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: for prosiness, but if you sign a contract, a four 573 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: year contract with the Eagles. You have to do at 574 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: least two years or three years of that contract. Where 575 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: there's before there's any type of out from either side, right, 576 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: there's no out, there's no real out. But you know 577 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: sometimes there's like a third your option for both sides. 578 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Well yeah, sometimes, I mean the team can cut them. 579 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: But I think your point's well taken. There's no transfer portal. 580 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: There's no transfer portal on These guys can transfer whenever 581 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: they want. Now, Look, I'm not mad about it. I 582 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: think it's great. I hope these kids get as much 583 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: money as they can. I just think college football is 584 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna be bizarro world. It's it's they could also have 585 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: their scholarships pulled, and they could be and there's oversigning. 586 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: There's lots of ways for the team to get rid 587 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: of a point, correct, But the top guys that we're 588 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: talking about, they're not pulling those guys scholarships like Pitt 589 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: right now. Wait, think Pitt's doing. Pitt is begging him 590 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: to stay, Pitt is talking to Pitt Is, throwing everything 591 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: they can at him. Their Pitts talking to their nil 592 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: people to try to get as much money for him 593 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: to stay as possible. Honestly, I don't see why if 594 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: you're a really good player, you wouldn't go in the 595 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: transfer portal and be like, listen, let's see. Can you 596 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: imagine if Will Anderson, the d N from Alabama who 597 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: had been the numb one pick this year's draft, if 598 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: he went in the portal, what is Georgia offering him? 599 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: What is Tech say and m in Tennessee offering him. 600 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he's getting something in Alabama, but 601 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: why not go into the transfer portal and say, hey, 602 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: show me the money. You know you would have been 603 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: the number one pick and got over forty million dollars guaranteed. Instead, 604 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: he has to play thirteen fourteen, fifteen games this year 605 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: and stay healthy. Can't pop and akill he's like Ojabo, 606 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: can't hurt his pack or whatever like Nakobe Deane. If 607 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm playing this year and I'm Will Anderson, show me 608 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: the nil money. I want it. I also want to 609 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: finish strong with the last day. Maybe we can get 610 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: to another best and worst. I love taking some calls 611 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: when we can. We've got some people being patient curious 612 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: to hear some of the rest of you guys chime 613 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: in on what's going on in college football. I'm not 614 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: sure people realize just how crazy it's getting in college football. 615 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: With nil thirty eight minutes past the hour here on 616 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick's Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 617 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 618 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 619 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 620 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 621 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is 622 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time, 623 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: but it's more about the stories about what made these 624 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: people love their sport and all the interesting interactions along 625 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: the way. We talked to coaches, we talked to players, 626 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: We tell you stories. You download it, you listen to it. 627 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I think you'll like it. Listen to All Ball with 628 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or ever 629 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: you get your podcast. Final segment on a Monday, Ross 630 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Tucker filling in for Dan. I think it had been 631 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: almost a year. Maybe it's been a while since I'd 632 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: been in with you guys. Obviously, I talked to you 633 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: almost every week during the season as a guest, but 634 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: nice to be up here in Connecticut. Appreciate all the 635 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: love on social media. At Ross t NFL. My intern 636 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: tweeted me and said, we just got twenty eight new 637 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: followers on TikTok. I told you posting more would work. 638 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it's not the posting more. I just 639 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: I just asked for more followers on the intern. The 640 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: poor intern was so excited that she she was like, 641 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, if we just post more on TikTok, we'll 642 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: get more followers. And we got twenty eight more. I 643 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: knew posting more would work. I was like, actually, I'm 644 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: hosting the Dan Patrick Show right now and I literally 645 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: asked for more TikTok followers. Yes, Paula, I got my 646 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: what I learned already. I know we do it at 647 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: the end of the show. Guys, Ross, as an intern, 648 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I think that's the big news here today. Can you 649 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: imagine working for you like you send your out intern out, 650 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: give me four pounds of roast beef that back that 651 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: that's the checklist for today. I may or may not, 652 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: at one point in my life have asked an intern 653 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: to do us study. If I was going to an 654 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: en tournament party to see how many IPAs I could 655 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: have in a certain time frame at my weight and 656 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: still be under the legal driving limits. They may or 657 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: may not have figured out that I could have two 658 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: point eight beers in a two hour period of IPA's 659 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. Speaking of what we learned, we'll do that 660 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: at the end. We all have different ideas about success. 661 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: We achieve it at different times in different ways. As 662 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: we strive to reach our financial goals, we can't afford 663 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: to make mistakes or go out it alone. Invest in 664 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: your success. Invest with a stifle financial advisor. Stifle Stephen 665 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: Nicholas and Company Incorporated Member SIPC and ny SE. Can 666 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: I just say one thing we didn't talk about it. 667 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm really upset about MBID. I'm really like, can you 668 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: guys remember a time when there was a guy on 669 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: your team that was hurt and you just knew, Like 670 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I thought, the Sixers legitimately had a chance to win 671 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: the NBA F Finals. They're saying he might come back 672 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: games three or four. I think it'll probably be too 673 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: late by then, and I'm not even sure he really will. 674 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: He got a fracture orbital bone, but it's just really disheartening, 675 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, like you're you're so excited they win a 676 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: playoff series, they have James Harden and it's such a letdown. 677 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: And they're breaking orbital bone. It's not even like an 678 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: ankle or a knee, like an orbital bone in your face. Yea, Polly, 679 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: I've seen guys wear the masks before in the NBA. 680 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: Is that more of a broken nose than orbital bone. 681 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on that. I think they think 682 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: they're talking like he might be able to come back 683 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: games three or four with a mask. I gotta be 684 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: honest with you, like I just look at things differently 685 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: than other people do. Like a mask to me would 686 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 1: be like a target. I you know, if I knew 687 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: a guy had a broken nose, I guess I'm just 688 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: a mean person. But if I played in the NBA, 689 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: I knew a guy had a broken nose, he's wearing 690 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: a mask. I mean, there's a decent chance at some 691 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: point my elbow would find that nose. You know, when 692 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: you're in the NFL, if you know a guy has 693 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: a bad knee or a bad elbow, you're not trying 694 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: to injure him. But you are testing it. You are 695 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: gonna figure out how much he really wants to play 696 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: that day. And I know that probably sounds mean and 697 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: cruel to some people watching or listening, but like, we're 698 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: kind of playing for keeps out here. You know, this 699 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: is pro football, this is the NFL. Like, it's not 700 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: like if a guy has a cast on one hand, 701 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, poor guy's a cast on a hand. No, 702 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: you attack that hand. You attack the hand with the 703 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: cast because you know he can't use it. Yes, Marvin 704 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: and four Ebid the Heat are probably one of the 705 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: worst teams you would want to play because they bully 706 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: Tray Young in round one and I hate to see 707 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: what they do to Embiid. Yeah, they're not afraid, That's 708 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like now, it's kind of hard to 709 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: get a shot on a guy's orbital bone, But I 710 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's interesting. By the way, Ozark, 711 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: we were talking about this before the show. Do you 712 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: guys realize it's so funny Paulie that you wanted to 713 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: talk about Ozark? That is the only show I watch, 714 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: so legitimately, I watched Live Sports, I watched like I DVR, 715 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: like thirty for thirties or like NFL films present, I 716 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: like documentaries. Ozark is the only show my wife and 717 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: I watch, but I'm only like four or five episodes 718 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: and in the last season, so episode Season four of 719 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: Ozark is the last season. They dropped about seven episodes. 720 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: A couple of months ago, they dropped the last seven episodes. 721 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: I think Seaton Friday Morning or something. I think. So 722 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: this weekend right now is primetime for spoilers. A lot 723 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: of people are reviewing the season. You can find lots 724 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: of stories out there, lots of social media. Me, you, 725 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: and Seaton are all in the process of watching the 726 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: last fourteen episodes, and it's like you have to fight 727 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: to not get this show sport. But why why did 728 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: they do that? Why do they drop seven at a time? 729 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: I think, why don't they drop one a week? I 730 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: like it way better that they do them all at once. 731 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: Why because then you don't have to wait the whole week. 732 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: You could you could over the instead of waiting for 733 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: one new episode to come out. By the end of 734 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: the week, you could be through five of them. Here's 735 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: the problem with it, though. You can still do that 736 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: if you just wait till they have all come out. 737 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: You can wait a month and then do four episodes 738 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: if you if you the way they do it now, 739 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: I can't talk about it with anybody. Like let's say 740 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: we got to dinner Friday night and the other couple like, 741 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: have you guys seen Ozark? We're like, yeah, we're on 742 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: episode four. Oh we watched all of them? Is that? 743 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: I like it? But a plus? Isn't it better for 744 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: the show if it's like Game of Thrones and it 745 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: comes out once a week and there's like the the 746 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: excitement about when it's released everybody watches together, like the 747 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: shared experience of watching it together Seaton, But it doesn't 748 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: seem like, just based on the fact that we're having 749 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: this conversation right now, like it's hurting Ozark. I guess 750 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: it's not. But I don't like it. I like coming 751 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: out once a week. I like the build up, the excitement. 752 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: There should be like excitement for the last episode. Ever, instead, 753 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: a couple of people that aren't as busy as us 754 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: already watched all of them. Yes, Marvin, I was gonna say, look, 755 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: this is twenty twenty two, so this isn't nineteen eighty nine. 756 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, the New Hillstreet Blues coming out, you know, 757 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: next week. So but then again, two summers ago, when 758 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: COVID happened the Bulls Last Dance documentary, they didn't put 759 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: them all out there one night. They released a week 760 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: by week and we spent almost every Monday. It was 761 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: great talking about it. Same with Tiger It was named 762 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: Tiger Joe, Tiger Bill was that guy's name, Tiger King, 763 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: Tiger King, Exotic Joe Joe Yeah, I don't remember, or 764 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: Joe exotic, sorry, Joe exotic. Yeah. But my point is 765 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: I prefer if they bring them out once a week 766 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: and then if seton, if you want to binge it, 767 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: wait till the end and then binge it. And actually, Paul, 768 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: you think it's more for a spoiler, that's less spoiler. Okay, 769 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: if all seven come out, then he can binge it 770 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: the next day and watch all seven, whereas now they 771 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: all are out. Have you watched it? See you say 772 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: you like it way better, but you haven't watched him? 773 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: Have you? Where are you? I'm on episode three? Wait 774 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: till you see what happens with Ruth. Dude, you're not 775 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: going to believe what happens with Ruth. That's you're doing 776 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: because what are you doing? You're lying or telling the truth, 777 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: and think you think you're lying and you're telling you're 778 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: further ahead than me. Dude, I don't know. I'm just 779 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: messing with you. I don't actually know anything. What are 780 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: you doing? Let's get to one more best and worst. 781 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: I want to I want to say I took two calls, 782 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: Jeremy and Brooklyn. Go ahead, Jeremy. Hey, good morning guys, 783 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: Happy Monday. All right, So my best of the weekend 784 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: for me was watching my beloved Warriors pull off a 785 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: nice last second win. I was pretty exciting, yep. However, 786 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: the worst was I had to sneak out of one 787 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: of my best friends going away party early with an 788 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: excuse that I had to go do some work so 789 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: I could sneak out and go watch the second half 790 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 1: of the bar. And of course, a little bit later, 791 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: he and some other people from the parties show up 792 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: at the bar. So that was a little Oh that 793 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: is amazing, Jeremy, that that see, that's that's interesting. I 794 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: feel like that's a situation where he must not be 795 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: that close with that person, because if you're really close 796 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: to the person, you're like listening. I gotta watch the 797 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: fourth coar of the Warriors game. Like, if it's like 798 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: one of your best friends, if it's someone where you're like, 799 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: I gotta go do work that you're not telling the 800 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: truth to. You're not tight with that person. Yes, pol 801 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: I snuck out of my brother in law's wedding reception 802 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: to go watch a NASCAR race one time at a bar. 803 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: There was like it was I think it's Tony Stewart 804 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: versus Carl Edwards. We're in the middle of a reception, Like, 805 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna slide on out of here and go 806 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: two blocks away to a bar. I didn't know you 807 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: were a NASCAR Oh yeah, and nobody noticed. I was 808 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: gone for years, which I guess tells about how much 809 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: they liked me. But I slid out to watch a 810 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: NASCAR race. Fritzie, what'd you learn? You don't want to 811 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: hang out with the guy who says you can't give 812 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: out draft grade for three years. It won't be invited 813 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: to your beer pong tournament. Seaton ed Marinaro, He don't care, 814 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: he don't care. I'm good, Marvin. Your dance move is 815 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: called the Penguin. Paulie, bring back Marinaro next year. Yes, 816 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: that guy is hilarious. He's getting a lot of negativity 817 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and he doesn't need that negativity in his life. He's 818 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: just seventy two trying to goffe at eleven o'clock tea 819 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: time down in Charleston, South Carolina. Had an awesome career. 820 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: I had a blast. People always say, what's your favorite 821 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: thing to do this? This is my favorite thing to 822 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: do the day Patrick Show. Have a great week, everybody