1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Radio man, Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and this is the 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: start of our number two of the Drive. It's Monday. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: That's mock draft. Let to mock it up, all right, 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: we're lou using the NFL mock draft database, mock drafter. Okay, 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: everything is started here and we got four trade offers, 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: the first one being we got the Giants on the phone. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: They're offering a bounty of picks. I would. 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't think going back even further than I originally thought, 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: is that crazy. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Here's what they're offering. A two stuff is nice in 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: this draft. Thirty four sure, sixty five yeah, one oh five? Okay, 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: a fifth runner next year and a sixth rounder next year. Basically, 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: they're they're treading us almost They're entire the second round pick, 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: third round pick, fourth round pick, seventh round pick this year, 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: and two picks next year to move back out of 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: the first round. 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm super interested in that, and I definitely think there 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: will be a D lineman we like. 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: At thirty four. 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: It might be Williams or Alexander or somebody like that, 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: but somebody definitely in our top twenty one. I would 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: counter it, though, Instead of the last pick this year 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: and the fifth and sixth next year, can we get 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: like a fourth next year? 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't need all these. I would prefer 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: that for like something, or even if I give, I'll give, 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: We'll give you a six next year to make that 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: a four. Yeah. 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need those last three that you mentioned there. 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what to do with those, 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: you know, like if I could turn them into one 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: decent thing as opposed to three crappy thing. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: Let's look at the other offers. Okay, the Vikings are 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: offering twenty four and ninety seven for twenty one. In 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: a nutshell, that's sounds great. So they're first and third, 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: which is a late third to move it must be 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: a compic. It's a compick two and three. Yeah, it's 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: a compick. So yeah, that's why I get it right. Yeah. Uh. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: The Texans are out of their minds. They're offering seventy 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: nine eighty nine, their second round pick next year, and 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: their fifth round picks next year to move up into 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: twenty one. That's a lot of work. Yeah, I want 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: your first round pick this year, pal, they're twenty five. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so that's not happening. The Bengals, Well, we 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: don't do business with the Bengals. I'm going to reject that. 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to reject the Texans the Giants. 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: One is just one we haven't done right, you know, 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, just totally go out of round one and 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: end up with a lot of picks and a lot 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: of Day two stuff. Let's counter with getting rid of 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: those three crappy. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Things that's saying. I mean, we don't need to be 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: making safety pick. This one doesn't allow you to necessary. 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: You have to reject it and then go in and 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: make them the offer. 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: We can do that, or you want, or I could. 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm cool with even just accepting it. I mean, we'll 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: figure it out. 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: But I don't want all those picks. I mean, two 64 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: of them are next year. We can move around a 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: little bit, right, I know, let me reject. I'm going 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: to reject both of these. I'm going to make a 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: tree offer the Giants. I'm gonna go to the Giants 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: and make them an offer that they can't refuse. Yeah, 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: give me like your next three picks thirty four, sixty five, 70 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: ninety nine. Is that what they were offering, or what 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: they were offering it was, I think their next three 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: whatever it is for twenty one, and they have a 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: future fourth twenty twenty six fourth round draft pick, and 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: we'll get thrown a twenty twenty four to six round 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: draft pick. It's not going to do that. They're I'm 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: saying they're giving up too much. Well, yeah, they're giving 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: up too much. They would move up a ton probably 78 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: for Jackson dart Right. You're moving up for a quarterback. 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold you in. 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: The league does usually have a quarterback tax. If you're 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: moving up for a quarterback, the usually cost more. That 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that soft. 83 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: Let's see who's available here before we come too far 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole here. Mikel Williams ed rusher out 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: of Georgia. G Hud Campbell linebacker out of Alabama, Colston 86 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Loveland tight end out of Michigan, Malachi Starks safety out 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: of Georgia, Nick Emuori safety out of South Carolina. Amari 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: and Hampton running back out of North Carolina. James Pierce 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: ed Rusher from Tennessee, Derek Harmon and Walter Nolan both there, 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: as is Jackson. 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: Dart, Nolan and Harmon in the two I'm really attracted 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: to at that point. Yeah, and I don't think they'd 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: be there with the Giants trade, but it's not insane 94 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: that they would fall into the early start. 95 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: Reason. This thing is not allowing me to switch off 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: of what I'm offering here. This is why I don't 97 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: use this when it's not great, it's weird. You can't counter, right, 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I you know, I get focus. Okay, now I see 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 2: so twenty one for two thirty four sixty five ninety 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: nine are saying it's too much. Now on, let me 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: click off of ninety nine. So it says I got 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: to throw something in to get twenty thirty four sixty 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: five and ninety nine. They must offered us less than that. 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: Fifth runner next year isn't gonna get it done. Fourth 105 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: rounder next year they would do? Okay to get thirty 106 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: four sixty five ninety nine for twenty's a pretty good haul. 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't mind the fun build. Yeah, let's let's let's 108 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: do it. Let me see if I can get them 109 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: throwing next year's five. Nope, that's too much. Well then 110 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, you're messing with them all right, 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: trade is done. 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: Okay, we picked up three picks then this year, yeah, 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: and move back a bunch, all right. I've done some 114 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: of these buildings and I like them. Sometimes it's like, man, 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: there's not much here at thirty four, but usually there's 116 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: a d tackle with this group. 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I think there will be so players available, Nick Emywari, 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean you have bonus picks. You could do something 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: crazy like that. 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm not condoning it, but I'm just saying you're gonna 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: have more picks than you need. 122 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: You're more picks than needs. Jackson Dart Truck. That wasn't 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: who they picked. But yeah, Grey's Abel Dart still doesn't 124 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: interest me. There, I tell you, Mari and Hampton. You 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: said he was there the last time around. Yeah he's 126 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: there now. Oh wow, Grey's Abel, Luther Burden, Maxwell Harston, 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson, Trey Amos, Trevion Henderson, Arianta Ursi, Tyleek, Williams, 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Jylen Milroe. To me, it comes down to Williams or Hampton. 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 130 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: I mean, it's still our next pick is until the 131 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: early third. We picked up this early second, but we 132 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: still gotta wait. 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: I think he go Hampton in this situation. I mean, 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: we could probably get if we stay true to our board. 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: We had Hampton head of Wis, we had Hampton ahead 136 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: of Williams. Well, stay true to our board. That's why 137 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: we have a board. That's why we have a board. 138 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't mind going back to back d 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: lineman around three though. Yeah, I mean there's there's gonna 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: be others. They won't be the stars, but if it's 141 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: Caldwell and Alexander or something, you know. 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Good with that. Yeah, Okay, so we're out of the 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: running back then right, that's done. 144 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Top players available here at sixty five Jayden Higgins interesting 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: but yeah, Jodkins is still there, but we're out of 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: the Prince Hugh out of Mississippi, the edgresher, Mason Taylor, 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: the tight end out of LSU Jonas, Iavania offensive lineman 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: from Arizona. T J. Sanders, defensive lineman from South Carolina. 150 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: Elijah Rojo the tight end from Miami. Tate Ratledge, guard 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: from Georgia, Isaiah Bond the wide receiver from Texas. Jordan 152 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: Birch Ed Rusher out of Oregon. Jalen Noel also still there. 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: Let me just do a look straight at the defensive lineman. Yeah, 154 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm getting concerned. T J. Sanders, Omar, Norman Lott, Shamar Turner, 155 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: Josh Farmer. I say it's Farmer available, the om Walker, CJ. West, 156 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips, Ty Ty Robinson, Jamuri Calbwell, so some of 157 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: the guys that I like are there? Farmer is my favorite. 158 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Would you consider taking an offensive lineman here? Who's your 159 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: starter next year? We got extra picks? Yeah, I was 160 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: taking that too, and you said sibon E and date Ratley. 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Ratley was interesting too, I know pretty soon, right, I 162 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: think I'd take the bird in the hand with the 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: D lineman and consider that with the next pick. 164 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Josh Farmer then yeah, okay, Josh Farmer. 165 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: It is I just don't want to get shut out 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: out on potential starting D lineman. 167 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, we're cruising along here. We got another pick. You 168 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: consider Ty Robinson if he's still available. Definitely he's different. 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: All right, We are now up at eighty three. T J. 170 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: Sanders still there at that price, I mean I'm kind 171 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: of interested. Yeah, Omar Norman lot Schamar Turner. 172 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: Kind of back to our Mason Graham conversation. Yeah, I 173 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: mean it's a little different, but I mean he's. 174 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: Dean Walker, CJ. West, ty Robinson still there, look at 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: that interior off. Tate Ratledge still there. Okay, now we're 176 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: talking and we get another pick coming up at ninety 177 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: nine something in ninety seven somewhere there. Wide receivers still available. 178 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Jalen Noel is still there, save on Williams still there. 179 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: They're both interesting. Yeah, looking at quarterback, it's will Howard 180 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: Tyler shuck when you weres Cal McCord. 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: I could certainly be convinced a shock Noel is interesting. 182 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: I think it's actually pronouncing Noel. I pronounced it wrong 183 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: a million times. Ty Robinson's interesting. Ratledge is interesting. 184 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: If you look strictly on who is ranked where on 185 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: their board, the top three players are Sanders, Elijah Rojo, 186 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: and Tate Ratledge. I can understand that. I think Tate 187 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: Ratledge is that's what you get for trading down, as 188 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: you get the next year starting getting next year starting guard, 189 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: and you get a year to season him and he 190 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: might play for you this year. 191 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: At times like you don't think this way. But we 192 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: don't know. McCormick is a great player. I mean he 193 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: could take a step back into your one and lose 194 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: his job to rat Ledge or see them all who 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: could get old on. I mean things happened throughout the 196 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: course of the r Ratlage is a really good prospect. 197 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 198 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: I think he was my fourth or fifth interior alignment overall. 199 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, take them. Okay, just a different build here, were 200 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: get to the nine building those trenches. Yeah, I'm a 201 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: fan of that. Big power players. Okay, we're up at 202 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: ninety nine, and let's take a look at that defensive line. 203 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: Top player is still available as Ty Robinson. 204 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have any problem with that. Now, I don't 205 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: know if i'd take him over. 206 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: Noel, he's gone. Ok Savion Williams is still there. Interesting, 207 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: they're a corner that shouldn't be there. Looking at cornerback 208 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: Quincy Riley, Kobe Bryant, Zya, Alexander Zoff, Frazier, No, Williams 209 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: all still there. So there's still some guys. I say, 210 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: we picked pretty soon. Again, we got a lost one. 211 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: So what numbers this? This is ninety nine. 212 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a chance one of those corners floating around. Yeah, 213 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: do you want to grab Robinson? I think I think 214 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: you do. Yeah, I think you take Ty Robinson. 215 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: Big people draft. It's a big people draft, and you know, 216 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: even Hampton's a big This is the sweet area for 217 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: that tame. 218 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Right right right, Just give me these. You know, a 219 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: couple of developmental tackles in that neighborhood. There's a bunch 220 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: of guards that'll be NFL starters. 221 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Now we are up at one twenty 222 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: three and well the Toplet defensive lineman Vernon Broughton, JJ 223 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: Pageese Elizah. We don't need any We're not going to 224 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: go three wide receiver. You're looking at Tesz Johnson, he's tiny. 225 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: Ty Felton, who we talked about before. Okay, Isaac Tesla's 226 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: still there. I like him too. He plays hard. There's 227 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: some good players there. Looking at the quarterback position, you're 228 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: looking at Shuck is still there. I would definitely grab 229 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: him there, Quin you weres Cale McCord, Dylan Gabriel. The 230 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: other guys wouldn't interest me, but I would take Shock. 231 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: The cornerback position, we just looked at Zia Alexander Zah, Fraser, 232 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: Noel Williams all still there. 233 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 3: They would all be fine. If we don't want to 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: go down the shuck road because we think it's cheating, 235 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: I would take one of the corners. 236 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Do you want the trades guy? I like Fraser and 237 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: Williams better than Alexander that he would be third on 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: my list as well. 239 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: I think Williams is the safest traits guy as the 240 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: highest Fraser's got the highest ceiling. But what does this 241 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: team need. Do they need a corner to play now 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: or do they need a corner for next year? I 243 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: think mostly next year, but it'd be nice, but Williams 244 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: could also be your starter. Yeah, I mean you're counting 245 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: on Trice to be your three. I mean you're you 246 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: don't know that you're out. 247 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: The tape out there and no Williams playing. Oh yeah, 248 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: he fits very well. Yeah, got the length, do it? Okay? 249 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: No Williams it is. 250 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: I mean, now you're done at corner. You got a 251 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: nice corner room. Much better corner room though last year. 252 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And there's some versatility there too, and some youth. Okay. 253 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: We got another pick coming up here at one fifty 254 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: where we at here one fifty six, we got three 255 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: picks left. Okay, wouldn't I one being a quarterback? Since 256 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: we get the extra pick, why not, we're going to 257 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: bring one in. Anyways, once the draft's over, I'd consider 258 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: a tackle. Uh. You're looking at cal McCord, Curtis Rourke, 259 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: Max bras or Seth Hen again, Graham Mertz. 260 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: I like Roark more than Accord, but I could be 261 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: persuaded either way. 262 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: YEA, right, you're gonna do stuff for you this year. 263 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: Who's just best available? You're looking at McCord. Uh, Dylan 264 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Fairchild the other Georgia. I liked him too. He's good playing. 265 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: He's a little underrated to Jonas Sanker, the safety out 266 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: of Virginia. Yeah, I'm shocked he's still there. Ollie Gordon, 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: the running back out of Oklahoma State. R J. Harvey, 268 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: the running back out of U c F. Good player. 269 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: Vernon Bron would have done a different direction with the 270 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: first pick. I'd be all over Harvey here. 271 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Hollan Pierce still there? Okay? Uh Zoff Raser is still there. Yeah, 272 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: the room's getting pretty crowded of that. Jalen Read, the 273 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: safety out of Penn State. UH Dante Thornton Wider receive 274 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: the biggest FA wide receiver. 275 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Metcalf would be a good role model for him. Yeah, 276 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: I like Thornton or Pierce the Rutgers tackle. 277 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, over the quarterback, I think, so we go offensive 278 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: tax Cord worries me as a just such a risk 279 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: taker a little bit. Yeah, I mean I get it. 280 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: Wide receiver or offensive tackle. That's a tough They both 281 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: would be sort of projects. 282 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: They both have some upside to them. I don't think 283 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: signing Anderson today is enough for me to say I'm 284 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: out on that. No, I mean, but it's not as 285 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: much of a need, that's for sure. 286 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: We again, we picked up extra picks by movie exactly, 287 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: so went in doubt throw a tackle night Colin Pierce? OK, 288 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: why not? Yeah, it's fine. We got two picks left 289 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: and two twenty nine. See where this goes. 290 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: Would you consider like an undersized running back that shouldn't 291 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: be there even though we took one with our first pick? 292 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: I would consider it, h all right, we are now 293 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: up at one where we're at here one there a 294 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: tight end that shouldn't be there. Sof Frasier's still there, 295 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: that might just be too good to pass up, don'te 296 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Thornton's still there. No, I think we take Thornton. Right, 297 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm just looking here at what else is available. Jaden 298 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: Blue is still there. 299 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: That's a perfect example, right, I mean he is a speedster. 300 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: Game is only a one year deal. 301 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: Ik Tesla is still there. Wow, we haven't taken a 302 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: wide receiver. I like test I think I would do that. 303 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: I like Tesla better. 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would take him over Thornton. Yeah, blocks he's tough. 305 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah he should still be there. No, that's a good pick, 306 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: and maybe he will. I don't think that's insane. I 307 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: don't think he's crazy. I mean he's not a superstar. 308 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, he makes he makes plays. 309 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bonus of the the big tray down 310 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: gritty wide receiver. 311 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 312 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: They would like him a lot. Yeah, and he's a 313 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: little different than what they got. And we got one 314 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: pick left at nine. I should say this almost you 315 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: just take a quarterback here because you're gonna. 316 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: Sign them anyway. Right, unless there's I mean Blues there, 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: I would take them or I think at this point 318 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: I would just say, you know what, we'll find. We'll 319 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: invite a couple of those guys to camp. Oh yeah, 320 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: I think you're doing that. No matter what, I can 321 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: hand pick my quarterback here, that is going to be 322 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: my number. Who are the options? Just like, well, you're 323 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: looking at Max Brosner from Minnesota, Seth Hennagan from Memphis, 324 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: Peyton Thorn from Auburn, Taylor, Elgersma was still there. 325 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: The first two aren't terrible, they're not. Elgers is interesting. 326 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: He's a Canadian guy. 327 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people are like, who the 328 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: hell are you talking? Put him on my practice squad 329 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: for a year and see what you got. He has traits, 330 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: that'll be fine. I mean, total roll of the dice. 331 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: You're right, We're right. But it's pick two twenty nine 332 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: and I filled all my needs. 333 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: What an article you could write about him in camp two? 334 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is Steelers dot Com content galore right there. 335 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the Canadian. 336 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: Game, right, they play twelve on twelve different world. He's 337 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: like looking for the third safety, like. 338 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: They're not even there, just looking at those running backs. 339 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: Jar Us Hunter is there, Kalel Mullins Mullings from Michigan, 340 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: Rahem Sanders from South Carolina, Marcus Yarns from Delaware. So 341 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: there's some film offa from Clemson Jaquori Krosky Merritt. I 342 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: like him and the Auburn kid a lot. Yeah. Chance 343 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: now that one of them are going to be drafted, like. 344 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: Oh right, I mean most teams have the back. Yeah, 345 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: I mean there's gonna be really good ones there in 346 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: the sixth seventh round. 347 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: Whereas quarterback, am I gonna get it? 348 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: You know, especially if you don't trade down. I can 349 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: make an argument that if your last two picks were 350 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: running backs and that's all you did the position, you 351 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: might be okay, Yeah, you might be fine. I mean 352 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: Rampton though, but I know, I mean it's a different 353 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: world I'm talking about if you hadn't taken one at 354 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: all and you're just sitting there with fewer picks than this. 355 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, grab a Canadian quarterback. Canadian quarterback, welcome to 356 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: the team, Taylor Elgersma. I like it. 357 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: Let's just work with him. You'll think it's nice and 358 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: warm here. I didn't love this one, no, you know, 359 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: it was a good exercise. 360 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't. I don't like it as much as the 361 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: one we did last Friday. That was the best one 362 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: we've ever done. Yeah, I mean that one I would 363 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: trade ever we've done some good ones. Yeah, yeah, but this. 364 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: Most recent right, yeah, this one's not terrible, and I 365 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 3: would I'd probably make the deal again. 366 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: Just didn't fall the way I loved. Yeah, I mean, 367 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: but if I get a mari and Hampton had picked 368 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: thirty four. 369 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Right, I think he's going top twenty. Yeah, I don't 370 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: think he'll be there twenty one. 371 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we took a mari And Hampton the running 372 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: back from North Carolina at thirty four after trading down 373 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: like Josh Farmer, the defensive lineman from Florida State at 374 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: sixty five. 375 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: Hampton, no matter where he lands, could be in the 376 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year conversation. Yeah, you know, like Genty's 377 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: going to be the far and away leader in the clubhouse, 378 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: but Hampton could be in that mix. 379 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: Tate ratt Ledge to guard from Georgia at eighty three, 380 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: Ty Robinson, defensive lineman for from Nebraska at ninety nine. 381 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: You know I liked four linemen and yeah, four three 382 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: hundred pounders. That makes me happy. 383 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: H Noel Williams, the cornerback from California at one twenty three. 384 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: Holland Pierce at one fifty six, the offensive tackle from 385 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Rutgers Isaac Tesla wide receiver from Arkansas at one eighty 386 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: five and Taylor elgersma quarterback from Wilfrid Laurier at two. 387 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff. And I mean, you know when 388 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: you talk about and you you know when you mentioned, hey, 389 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: you take four three hundred pounders in the draft. If 390 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: you don't have the extra picks, that makes it difficult 391 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: to off because you're not going to get a cornerback. 392 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: You're not going to get a quarterback because you have 393 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: to draft a running back. 394 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean, even if you just did a simple trade 395 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: down like the one the Vikings offer where it's three 396 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: picks away or whatever and you pick up one more third, 397 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: it's still hard to get it still. And this one's 398 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: a three for one basic trade. Yeah, that's a different world. Yeah, 399 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: and you're almost crazy not to. 400 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, for sure, let's get to a break. He 401 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 402 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, and 403 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: of course you can hear the Drive every day, weekday, 404 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: I should say, from four to six pm right here 405 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: where you're listening now. 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Matt Bowen on ESPN has gone through 416 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: this draft and come up with you, mad man top 417 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: prospects at one hundred different skills and treats. We're not 418 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: going to go through all one hundred if so, I'm 419 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: not going to comment on each one. Okay, what do 420 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: think of that? 421 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 4: Man? 422 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: We're just gonna pick and choose here some of the 423 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: things that we can talk about here. His most accurate 424 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: passer in this draft is yeah, okay, strongest arm Milroe, 425 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Jaylen Milroe. Best deep ball thrower Milroe is in the 426 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: conversation he gave to Calum Accord that's not bad. Yeah, 427 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: that's something darts really bad at. Yeah, he does not 428 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: throw go, best touch and timing. Is Jackson Dart listed 429 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: for that? I mean in the short intermediate stuff. Yeah. 430 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Best pocket mobility cam Ward. Actually think it's Milroe'. 431 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: Done a lot of homework on Melroe. He's really good 432 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: at just sliding and shuffling and. 433 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, quick as release is Ward, it's also Melroe. 434 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: Go watch Milroe throw. It's I'm not saying he's Damn Marino, 435 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: but it's the I mean, it just comes out quick arm. 436 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Best quarterback field vision Tyler Shuck, he sees it. 437 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean said a lot of time to 438 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 3: learn too, that's great. 439 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: Best pocket presence Shador Sanders. I don't agree with that one. 440 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't either. He holds the ball too long. 441 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: He holds a ball too long, and he drifts backwards. 442 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: That's a really bad trade unless you're Josh Allen. 443 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: It's one of the problems I have. The only problems 444 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: I have with Shuck is that he throws off his 445 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: back foot a lot. You know he doesn't love getting 446 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: hit either. No, when you throw you've had three season 447 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: ending injuries. I get it, I do. You got to 448 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: get over that. Though. Most creative passer cam Ward no doubt, 449 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: top dual threat Jalen mo in Row. Best scrambler Riley 450 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Leonard from the I. 451 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: Don't think Milroe is a great scrambler. Yeah, I mean 452 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: I think he's a great designed runner. Yeah, he's faster 453 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: than Leonard, but Leonard's a scramble He's a good runner. 454 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Toughest quarterback Seer Sanders. Just because you hold the 455 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: ball and take a lot of sacks doesn't mean you're 456 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: necessarily the toughest. I don't have a problem with that. 457 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it. But I would 458 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: also look at say, Riley Leonard that Yeah. I mean 459 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: he saw him lower his shoulder quite a bit last year. 460 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: I give Leonard a lot of credit to for I 461 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: mean he was the Senior Bowl the week after they 462 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: got eliminated. I mean like his body had to be hurt, 463 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: he had to be beaten up. Yeah, he took a 464 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: lot of as much as he ran the ball right right. 465 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Fastest rusher Beychelle Touton, who was just in 466 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: for a visit with the Steelers today. Yeah, I would 467 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: say it's him or the dude from Texas Blue. It's 468 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: my boy Blue. Most explosive rusher, Ashton Genty. 469 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's could be the top of all these. Yeah, 470 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: I mean it would get redundant. 471 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: But the best short area burst quin Shawn Judkins. He 472 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: does have that state he does. The most powerful rusher 473 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: with Martinez Gattabo, he goes to Mari and Hampton. Okay, 474 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: there's a couple of big backs that are all in 475 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: contention there. Best contact balance that's scatter Bo. Well, I 476 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: mean he's everything, but scatter Bos He's great. Hard to 477 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: get on the ground, he really is. Most sudden rusher 478 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: Dylan Samson. That's good. He runs it. It's a lot 479 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: of like five man boxes though. Yeah, that's a weird 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: office strange offense. Most elusive rusher Brishard Smith from SMU 481 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: good one. Best vision slash instincts is genty Sure. Okay, 482 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: again he's redundant. But most decisive rusher maybe Martinez Caleb Johnson. 483 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, stick your foot in the ground, 484 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: foot in the ground and goes He sees it and 485 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: goes zone. It opens up. I'm gonna hit it. Yeah, 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: that's that's the answer. Best ball, secure ball security as 487 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: a ball carrier. I don't know how that don't have 488 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: any fumbles he has Trevon Henderson. Okay, is that guy 489 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: three hundred and forty six touches over the past two seasons, 490 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: no fumbles. 491 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's two or three that are going 492 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: to get drafted that have not fumbled. Best receiving back, 493 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it's Henderson. He went with le Quinn 494 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: Allen from Show. 495 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 496 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a lot like Tracy from Producer last year. 497 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean he could maybe be a wide receiver. 498 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Best pass protecting back Henderson Anderson, Yeah, yeah, but he's 499 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: not huge. That's why I have Henderson higher than some 500 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: of these other guys in my He's gonna play and 501 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: play right away on third down. Is not a good 502 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: group of pass protecting, not at all, by the way, 503 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: not at all. Best route runner about running back wide 504 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: receivers now, Oh, he went Withstripo from Yeah, you better 505 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: be a good run run running four to seven. Yeah. 506 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: Fastest pass catcher, fastest pass catcher Matthew Golden simply because 507 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: yeah nine. 508 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: And I know that he's not really for us. But 509 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: I think Bond plays faster than Golden, Like if I 510 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: would have guessed he would have ran faster. Yeah, And 511 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: I love Golden, but I think there's something too he 512 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: runs a four to nine and he's like, I'm good. 513 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, never again, Like I think he shocked himself that day. 514 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: Most explosive pass catcher Dante Thornton from Tennessee. Oh, okay, 515 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: yeah field, Yeah, most physical pass catcher probably McMillan, Tyler Warren. Oh, 516 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about tight ends too. 517 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: Any pass catcher, okay, yeah, most sudden past catcher Travis Hunter. Oh. Yes, 519 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: Most elusive past catcher Tess Johnson. You better be elusive 520 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: if you're one hundred and forty pounds. There's a couple 521 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: of dudes though, that are good after the catch. He 522 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: would be great in the flag football league. That's to 523 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: be the best made for him. Yeah, his tape is 524 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: better than everything that's happened since. Yeah, weighing one hundred 525 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: and forty pounds is not ideal. What rounds are you 526 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: going to go? Fifth or six? I think? Yeah? Yeah, 527 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: he didn't run great either. Yeah, little guys take big 528 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: hits best hands or streppo hm best. 529 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: I wonder how much of the legue WI ding him 530 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: because he really is a slot your It's. 531 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: Like, can you and Allen argument right? 532 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: And you might get a value because he ran poorly 533 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: It's not like he looks slow out there, right, I 534 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: mean he's quick. 535 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a speedster. No that if you look 536 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: at the side to side stuff. The code, the code 537 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: stuff with him was really good. 538 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 539 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Best receiving instincts Jalen Royals from Utah State. I 540 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: was gonna say, loved one. Best at getting open in 541 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: Mecca Atbuca, Ohio State. Okay, best on fifty to fifty balls. 542 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: Teed McMillan, Yeah, definitely. Best seam stretchers Colston Loveland m. Yeah, 543 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: he can move. Best body body control, slash ball tracking. 544 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Oh, it's great. Yeah. Best toe tapper Pat 545 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: Bryant from Illinois Okay, yeah, I haven't watched all his 546 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: stuff along the sidelines. Best after the catch Luther Burden 547 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: from Missouri. Yeah. Most versatile pass catcher Tyler Warren. Yeah. 548 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: They use him in a wide variety of ways. Best 549 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: red zone target Jayden Higgins. Yeah, he goes up and 550 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: plucks it. Best ball security as a pass catcher Jayden 551 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: Higgins from Iowa State one hundred and forty eight catches, 552 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: no fumbles. Hmm. Best perimeter blocking receiver. I'd go with Stanford, yeah, 553 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Iman or is the guy best in line blocking tight 554 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: end Jackson Hass. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Skip 555 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: over some of these offensive line stuff here. We're not 556 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: gonna no wonder the D tackle stuff though. That's what 557 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't get to. I wonder if he lumps all 558 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: D linemen together, if it's okay, but guy most explosive 559 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: pass rusher, Yeah, most physical defensive lineman. 560 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: Hmm, it's probably an obvious answer. He's going Derek Harmon, really. 561 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of action there. 562 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: He has heavy hands, best hand usage Mason Graham. Yes, 563 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: that's that's where he wins. That's where he wins, and 564 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: that's a great trade. Best ben slash flex is atty card. Yeah, 565 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: that's what he does best. Best pass rush moves with 566 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: Mike Green from Marshall. I think Asa Rec who's pretty 567 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: good there too. Yeah. I see both those guys get 568 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: the most out of everything. They're not they're not the biggest, 569 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: they're not these six foot five guys. They know they 570 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: got to put some moves on him, and they both 571 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: got him. Green doesn't have like super long arms or 572 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: you chans or you know, right, best bull rush David 573 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: Walker from Central Arkansas yeah, he gets underneath. 574 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: We don't talk about him much. I mean he plays 575 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: against really bad dudes and just kind of. 576 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: Runs them over. Yeah, yeah, right through. I mean he 577 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: had a ton of sacks. Best spin move Mike Green 578 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: from Marshall, Okay, we have to study it. Best motor 579 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: Mason Graham from Michigan does that too. Yeah. Best interior 580 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: past Michael ty Robinson though I might too. Yeah, interior 581 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: pass rusher Harmon Walter Nolan. Huh, Best edge setter J T. Twomloa, 582 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: he's a force. Best past lane swater. 583 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh there's someone. Is that Alexander. Someone has a bunch 584 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: of swats in this clubb No, it's uh the. 585 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Texas Kenneth Grant has nine. Collins has a bunch two. 586 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: I made a note of that in our triple takes stuff. 587 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: It's big around here. It makes a difference. Yeah, Like, 588 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: if you're not going to get there, especially coming from 589 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: the interior at the past. 590 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: He'll blend in. Just well, just just find those guys. 591 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: Best run stopper Alfred Collins. I would have went with Williams. 592 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: They're both really good, and we're into some linebacker stuff there. 593 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: We don't much care take a look at the corner, 594 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: the cornerback stuff most or here we go. Best our 595 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: fastest in phase runner Darian Porter from Iowa sto. Yeah, 596 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: he can turn him run if he goes thirty eighth, 597 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: I'd understand. Yeah. 598 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the right team that can bring him along 599 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: slow or isn't in the hunt right now. 600 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: Best closing speed Maxwell Harston. Yeah, I mean smaller, but 601 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: he really close. Yeah. That's where he's gonna get the 602 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: guy on the ground now. 603 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't know right, that's why he gets sends on 604 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: the ball. Yeah, closes in a taxi football. 605 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Best pedal transition Trey Amos from Ole Miss. 606 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: He is smooth. Yeah, I like Amos. I don't know 607 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: how he becomes stealer, but I like him. 608 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: Most physical in coverage. Nick Muori from South Carolina. Mmm, 609 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: I think they're just looking at this side. I wasn't 610 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: thinking of safety. I wasn't thinking either. Best defensive back 611 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: technique Denzel Burke from Ohio State. Kind of a. 612 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: Down year, didn't doesn't blow you away athletically. He was 613 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: like a super recruit and way too early early. 614 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Mock draft stuff. Guy, you know, uh, top ballhawk long 615 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: to go with Kentucky, No no, no, no. Javier Watts 616 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: interceptions the last two years. Yeah, the ball just finds 617 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: his hands a lot. He's got to him. Best coverage 618 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: instincts Travis Hunter. Oh man, his ball skills are unbelievable too. Yeah. 619 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Best backfield vision gotta be a safety. I would think 620 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: Will Johnson. Oh yeah, he plays a lot of off 621 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: and acts and smart. Yeah. Best third level range is 622 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: Watts from Notre Dame. Okay. Most sudden defensive back Travis Hunter. Yeah, okay, 623 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't even think it must be back. Best in 624 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: press coverage. 625 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: Benjamin Morrison was really good. Ravel's really good. Those must 626 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: be the answer. 627 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: When is zerri A. Thomas from Florida? Okay, yeah, that's 628 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: what he does what he does. Best in zone coverage 629 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: is Joddy Barron from Texas. Best open field tackler Kevin 630 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: Winston from Penn State. We just didn't get to see 631 00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: it this year. Yeah. 632 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: I think he's a heck of a prospect. That could 633 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: have been first round conversation. He had a healthy, strong year. 634 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: Best nickel traits hm hmm, Baron. I would have gone Barron. 635 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: He went Jacob Parrish from k State. Okay, that's a 636 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: good one. I get him. He's a smaller cornerback when 637 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: he can run. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh. Most coverage versatility 638 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: maybe Baron Malachi Starks. That's yeah. 639 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: He can play do a lot of different play man. 640 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: He can play too high place and go high right. 641 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: Most urgency in coverage. Billy Bowman, Billy Bowman. Really, he 642 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: plays hard. He plays hard. He's not real big, but man, 643 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: you get every ounce of it. 644 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: The thing is, he misses so many tackles and it's 645 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: not because he has all the urgency, but he can't 646 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: his arms. 647 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: Around people, right, it's just not huge. He has like 648 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: twenty eight inch arms or something crazy small. Yeah. Best 649 00:34:53,440 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 2: secondary blitzer mhm, Jonash Sanker from Virginia Okay, I wouldn't 650 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: have got that one. Best D and dB and run 651 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: support that's yeah, does the job. It can track you down. 652 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: Best tone setter. Maybe that's like a bowman too. That's 653 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: Lathan Ransom from Ohio State. Okay, a leader as well. 654 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, h'its seven and a half tackles for a 655 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: loss in three forced fumbles and four that's I think 656 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 2: he's one of their captains too. Yeah, so top return guy, 657 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: oh boy. Jalen Lane from Virginia Tech. 658 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 3: I'd like him to be a Steeler in the late rounds. 659 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: He's really explosive. He's a pretty good receiver. 660 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Ten punt returns last year of twenty or more 661 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: yards really like it's a field flipper. 662 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the the list there, done by Matt 664 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: Bowen Good one one. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of work. 665 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a lot of work. We didn't even talk 666 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: about the old lineman and yeah, off the ball linebackers 667 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: and all those things too. But yeah, it's a lot 668 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 3: of work, and so many of them you could have 669 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: given to. 670 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: Five, multiple different guys. We're just genty's at number one ever. 671 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: But that doesn't make it a lot of fun, No 672 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't. Yeah, then you want to get a lot 673 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: of different names in there, and I get it. No, No, 674 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: that's the beauty of it. That's why we chat about it. Absolutely. 675 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 2: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 676 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 677 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, Now, I'll be back 678 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: to finish up the show right after this. 679 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 680 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 681 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 682 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt 683 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt I'm just I'm looking here as we 684 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: have finished up the last hour talking about the Spencer 685 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: Anderson signing. If you start looking at the Steelers ross 686 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: her Okay, assuming that a certain quarterback signs to said 687 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 2: roster at some point here soon maybe which could happen, 688 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: and I think it's likely to happen. I start looking 689 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: at the roster and the clear spot where you don't 690 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: have a starting caliber player remains defensive line, yea, even 691 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: the top backup spots like I'm looking at. So we 692 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: just thought. You got Mason Rudolf. You've got Skylar Thompson 693 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: a quarterback. If I had, if I had a veteran 694 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: quarterback to that, I can go to the sea perfectly 695 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: happy doing that. You got Jalen Warren, You got Kenneth Gamewell, 696 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: Cordell Patterson, Jonathan Ward at running back. 697 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: That's the only one you could fight that I could. 698 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: You'd certainly like you're going to add, but. 699 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren is would be he may be your starter regardless. Yeah, 700 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: I mean game was uh, he was a backup to 701 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: Barkley last. 702 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 4: Year back define would like to add there though, sure, 703 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 4: absolutely hit wide receiver, dk Metcalfterwards, Pickings, Calvin, Austin, Roman, Wilson, 704 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 4: Ben Scarni. 705 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: Make the team. Yeah, Like, okay, I got five right 706 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 2: now that I feel pretty good about. Scotty Miller's there. 707 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: If if you didn't touch it, you could be okay, 708 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: you'd be okay. We went through the offensive line, tight end. 709 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: You've got four guys there, Friar with Darnel Washington, Connor Heyward, 710 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 2: Donald Parum. 711 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: We don't ever talk about Parham. But do you think 712 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: he's guaranteed to make the team. No, I don't know 713 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 3: what to think. I don't think so, Yeah, you bring 714 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: him in. He's NFL player right right right? 715 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: Why not? So that's your offense looking at the defensive 716 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: side of things. But d Lin's light the D line 717 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: right now, you're looking at Dean Lowry or Isaiah Laudermilk 718 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: probably being the starter unless they bump montrevious Adams to 719 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: nose tackle. Make Benton a defensive end. 720 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: Probably, if I had to put three guys out there 721 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: that's right now, I'll probably be the approach. 722 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 2: Unless Logan Lee blew my doors off or something like that. 723 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: So there's definite need there. But then, but there's a 724 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: lot of Tier three guys, a lot. 725 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: Of them, you know, maybe Logan Lee blouder Milk putting 726 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 3: that WAYO, Yeah, I mean those guys won't all make 727 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: the team, right, There's be a lot of competition amongst 728 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: that group. 729 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: It out. You know, outside linebacker, you got what high 730 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: Smith Herbig, I mean, you could do better, consider, but 731 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: he considered to Marvin Leal, I put him in the 732 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: defensive line group. I think that's what he is. Yeah, 733 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be one of your fifty three, which 734 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: you've also got Jeremiah Moon there. So you're fine. You 735 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: don't have to touch it. You don't have to touch 736 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: that inside backer you get Queen Peyton Wilson. They will 737 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: touch that Cole Hulk, Malik Harrison, Mark Robinson, Like. 738 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Robinson's in trouble all of a sudden. He's been, 739 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: you know, a useful player in the last couple of years. 740 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 2: At cornerback. It's Slay Porter, you got James Pierre, you 741 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 2: got Corey Trice. You still have your nickelbacks. Brandon Echols 742 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: and Beanie Bishop. I could add to that that would 743 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: be third on my list. But if I had to 744 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: play a game tomorrow, I'd be perfectly fine lining up 745 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: with that group. 746 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's like their third biggest draft need, 747 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: but in terms of if we were ranking current roster holes, 748 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: I would go D line, running back corner, sure, you 749 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: know yeah? 750 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: And in safety making Fitzpatrick, Deshaun Elliot, the one Thornhill, Miles, 751 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: Killer Brew, Ryan Watts, Like. 752 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: Again, I have hopes for Watts. Yeah, Killer Brew's making 753 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: the team. The top three are going to play a lot. Right, 754 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: You're done there too. I mean really, I've said this 755 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: many times that other than maybe two D linemen, you 756 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 3: might be done on defense. And Labs made a good 757 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: show call La nose up at a corner, Yeah, I 758 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: mean a corner with traits Williams. Yeah, a perfect example. 759 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: Just mix and I can live with them. 760 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: And can he replace James Peer? Sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 761 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: he'd better play specially, say those guys have to maybe something, 762 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: maybe that becomes Brandon eccles, Right, you know, I don't know. 763 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: I still don't have a great grasp on what Trice 764 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: is either, right, can he can he emerge as a 765 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: special teams guy this year. I'm saying, can he be 766 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: your number three outside guy? Well, I think if you're 767 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: going to be the number three outside, you'd be nice 768 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: if you could also play teams. Otherwise you may not 769 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 2: be dressed on game day. There's times he wasn't right. Yeah, yeah, 770 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 2: and that's why. So again, I mean, can he be 771 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: Slave's replacement, that's the that's the big thing. Yeah. 772 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: I just don't know where to value him. So right now, 773 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they need to make a lot of draft. 774 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 2: This roster is screaming we're taking a defensive tackle. It's screaming, right. 775 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 3: Maybe two, maybe two, and again then they're set up 776 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 3: well to do it. Doesn't sound like signing Anderson would 777 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 3: make that big a deal, but it makes that even 778 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: more plausible. 779 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Give me two d tackles. Sure, Yeah, I'm not I'm 780 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: not necess I'm not going to take an offensive tackle 781 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: in the first round just because No, you know, it 782 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: may even adjust if we redid our top twenty one 783 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 2: today with just that signing, I may bump some of 784 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 2: those offensive tackles. 785 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: Down on a little bit more right, And there's just 786 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 3: a little bit more competition for playing time or whatever. 787 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: And and again Sney Anderson should never doesn't doesn't change that, right, right? 788 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 3: You know, if there's a premium guy with Jonathan Ogden, 789 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 3: because we signed Anderson. 790 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: Right of course, but there's that guy's not in this draft. No, No, 791 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: there's Jonathan og diden't. 792 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: Get him at twenty one, right, No. I think they'll 793 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: hit the line very heavy, and trading down's great because 794 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: I would like to add more. 795 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 2: In Day two. 796 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: But if they left this draft with six picks total, 797 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: that's right. I can play them in the right spots 798 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 3: where they would be fine. You know, they don't know 799 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: if you need to make ten picks in this draft. 800 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: No, I I just don't see spots for them. No. 801 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 3: I mean if you didn't take a quarterback, I would understand. Yeah, 802 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean you don't have to take one. It would 803 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: be not again, it would be receiver. 804 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 2: It would be nice to take a quarterback just because 805 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 2: you're going to take four to training camp. 806 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 3: And I don't know that Mason Rudolph needs to play 807 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 3: a lot of preseason snaps. I don't think Rogers needs 808 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: to play any Yeah, and we're just gonna play Skylar 809 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: Thompson all the time, all the time. 810 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 2: I mean, you'd like, there's gonna be right, there's going 811 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: to be a veteran cornerback quarterback signed, whether that's Aaron 812 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 2: Rodgers or whether that's. 813 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: Cousins or whoever, there's gonna be another guy. 814 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be another guy in camp. There's 815 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,479 Speaker 2: also going to be a young guy in camp. 816 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 3: And whoever the old guy is, assuming it's Rogers, does 817 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: not need to play a time. You'll practice a bunch, 818 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 3: he'll learn, but he doesn't need to play. 819 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: A quarter in the preseason, right, right? If that a 820 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 2: series in the preseason series, right, throw a touchdown, get 821 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: out of there, you know. So, I mean that's where 822 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: we're at, and we're less than two weeks or just 823 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: over two weeks out from the draft. It's defensive tackle. 824 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: It's defensive tackle. It's defensive tackle. 825 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. Again, the build gets a little funky too. 826 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 3: We took Hampton with our first pick today and it's fine, 827 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: but then you have Farmers your best tackle. 828 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: I want him to be my second. 829 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 3: I might have to start, yeah yeah, I mean, now, 830 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 3: imagine what that d line room would be like if 831 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 3: Farmer is your second he tackle draft, right, it's. 832 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: Much farm whoa granted farmer? Yeah, okay, now I can. 833 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: I could do some stuff for years. Yeah. I mean again, 834 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: not only have a hole, but their best guys Old R. 835 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: Cam Hayward is not going to play forever. As much 836 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: as it seems like he might like it. 837 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: I plays like it, but you better prepare. And the 838 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: beauty of it too is learning from him. That's the 839 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: best mentor. 840 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: Ever I've talked to him about this before. I'm like, 841 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: I can draw a direct line from Joe Green to 842 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: Cam in terms of the leadership in this locker room. 843 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: You can do it. Yeah, it's not and it's not 844 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 2: that hard. You go from from Joe Green and Frank 845 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 2: o'harris to guys like you know, Tounch Yolkin or Craig 846 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: wolf Leet to the Rod Woodson Jerome Bettis too. You know, 847 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm all the way down the line. Yeah, right straight 848 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: to it. 849 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's always one and grooming that next guy 850 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 3: is always always on their mind. 851 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 852 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: But as much as that, I want to groom a 853 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 3: butt kicker that plays defensive tack. 854 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: Give me at ten years to give me a butt, 855 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: Give me two butt kickers. 856 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: Get me to the front right and just keep keep 857 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you get an extra year out of 858 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 3: Cam by doing that because he plays insteadead. 859 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: Of playing seventy percent of the snaps like he did 860 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: last year, now he's down to sixty. 861 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 3: You don't average a yard and a half more when 862 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 3: he's off the field for rush attempt. 863 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: That can't that kind of stuff. No, you can't, can't happen. 864 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: Can't be that reliant on him. No, anyways, that's going 865 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 2: to do it for today's show. So for my partner 866 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site running the 867 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard, and for Tyler Viittmeyer 868 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: making sure our video gets out there on the YouTube. 869 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: Give us the thumbs up there. I'm Dale Lolly. We 870 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive 871 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.