WEBVTT - Motorcycle Diaries 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.920 Press the music. Here we go wine down Hi Heart 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:14.040 Radio podcast. There was one of those kind of days 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.160 I'm just ready to start, so I have a special 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.520 wind down today because she actually wants to introduce Hi. Everybody. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.880 It's me. My name is Sarah, and I don't have 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:25.880 a ring, So let's just get that out of the 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:30.560 way before we go further. Humpy Monday. Everyone. I'm wearing pink. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.600 You're wearing pink, and you're adorable sweater and your jeans, 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.120 but I'm still noticing no ring on your finger. Not 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.520 I mean, there are plenty, but not one on the finger. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.800 We just can't figure it out. So poor Sarah. You 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.639 guys obviously know she's been dating the same man for 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.959 six years, not months, not weeks, years, and she gave 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.880 him an ultimatum that if he did not give her 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.720 the ring by the new year, she was going to 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.520 leave him. He does not have a ring, and she's 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.800 still with me. Here I am, and here you are. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.880 So I feel like Sarah had to come on the 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.240 show because so many people you turned off your comments 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.360 section on Instagram. And it's not that I'm like scared 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:15.880 or anything, because I feel like a lot of people 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.160 were like coming into my d MS hot and I 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.520 was like, listen. I was at a wedding for someone else. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.600 I got eighty seven comments on a picture of MENTI 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.800 of them telling me how many days I have left. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.720 I'm like, I can count. I know too, like I'm 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.880 also wearing fur and like my hair looks really good. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.840 It would be nice if somebody told me you did. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.319 I'm like, why is everyone like coming at me? I 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.920 don't know, because you get like everyone listens and they're 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.800 best in the fact that you had eight more days too. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.760 At that time, was at a wedding and I'm on 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.480 the dance floor and like you're I'm getting all these 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.240 checks and people are like Sarah like your Instagram and 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.880 I was like, I know, I look really good. And 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.680 then it's like no, like you need to go see 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.960 the comment, and I was like, I mean, well, then 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.120 I felt bad because when it didn't happen on New 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.520 Year's Day, I mean I was still giving hope that 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.360 maybe New Year's Day. But when it when it was 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.200 January two, I went to your page and so many people, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.840 so many people were deeming me emailing here. I heart 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.880 radio and been like, what happened with Sarah? I mean 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.560 people go to your page just to see if they 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.760 didn't want people to like hey, when it's like I'm 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.880 getting so many d I feel so bad for you. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.359 I'm like, listen, do you feel bad. I'm like, I'm 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.840 in cobbo. I'm doing absolutely great, thank you, but like 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.160 you had a no, I had a meltdown for sure, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:36.720 but like it could be worse, and I'm like, don't 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.720 feel bad for me. Thank you for feeling bad, but 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.280 like have you have you brought it up with ti 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.280 amazing question, Mike, thank you for asking. So that was 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.120 my New Year's like not resolution, but that was my like, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.040 okay January one to like when we got back to 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.200 l A, I was like, I'm not bringing it up, 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.840 like I'm just gonna let it ride, and I'm I'll 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.160 talk about it. You're really the only person I think 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.960 I've talked about it with, because like my sisters, no 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.880 one's like called me. We just like have not so well. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.840 We talked about it because we went to an event 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.880 together a couple of days ago and I said, look, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.679 it's the elephant in the room. We got to talk 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.280 about it, and then I don't want to talk about 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.280 it again until you want to talk about it. So 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.679 she basically said that she had a conversation with Tay 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.799 and said I was like, we're not I'm not. I'm 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.840 not bringing it up like I'm done, like because I 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.840 had like a couple of meltdowns and I'm not gonna 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.920 tell I don't have meltdown. Sarah doesn't cry my only girlfriend. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.560 I'm just I'm not a crier. I'm not like a 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.720 I flip out. But I had like a full meltdown, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.600 and I was like, get it out of your system, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.600 let it happen, and now we're done, like we're just 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.680 But here's the question that I asked her in the car. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.440 I said, done until when done until April? I done 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.920 until May. I thought about that, Okay, you thought about it. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.920 I think I can't set like a time. I can't what, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.680 let's November this year, No, because what I told you, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.080 don't go up with your finger because it's gonna be 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.520 like what I said, like, okay, in case everyone forgot, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.040 I'm a scorpio. And until I really feel like I 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.120 have to use that stinger, I can't just like be 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.840 done because when I'm done, I'm done, I know. So 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.400 like that's why I was like I could tell I 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.480 wasn't ready, Like I wasn't really ready to walk away, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.520 but like, who knows. I feel like I just have 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.640 to let it ride and then it's just gonna like happen, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.000 and like God forbid for him, Like he'll never come 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.680 back from that if he's like when you're done, You're mean, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.120 you are so done. You don't talk to them, and 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.159 you don't look in the direction, and you just you 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.000 just shut your heart. And that's why I don't want 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.479 that to happen to him, and I really don't think 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.680 it will. But that's why I was like, I'm not 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.120 going to set a day. I'm not going to set 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.839 a time. It's just gonna be like a thing. But 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.640 here's the deal. We're planning, like we're planning a November wedding. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.440 I mean, you know, how is that going to happen? 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:47.360 I mean, listen where she wants long sleep. She wants 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.800 a long sleeve November wedding done exactly, so long sleep 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:57.000 November wedding, that's what she wants. She's referencing a photo 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.560 in the room grow wearing a wedding dress and she 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:04.520 had sleeves. But no, that's what she gets done. Look, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.280 I'm not going to talk about it until June because 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.120 I think by June, if you're not in her face, yeah, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.720 if you're not engaged, by June, will be moving because 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:19.400 you're moving to Nashville basically with my dude. I mean 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.040 a lot of people are going there, so it kind 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.360 of seems like sense. But so what do you want 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.240 to say to everybody out there right now that is 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:30.360 blowing you up that thank you? I think I don't know, well, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.040 because I understand that they care. Hello, I care about 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.720 things are going on in people's lives that I don't know. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.479 But I think that people were more like frustrated, and 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.599 it was like, look, I'm still standing, I'm still breathing, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.920 I'm okay. I chose not to leave, but I felt 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.599 embarrassed for you, and you know what, That's what made 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.760 me mad, as I felt like he you asked what 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.800 for what you wanted and he didn't give it to you, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.040 and I feel like that's super disrespectful. It definitely hurt 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.520 my feelings more than anything, Like my feelings were hurt, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.560 but I wasn't really embarrassed for other people. I was 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.600 more embarrassed for like my family, like you, like for 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.919 people who really knew what was going down. Does that 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.800 make sense? Well, and all the listeners too. I mean 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.440 it's kind of a slap in the face, it was, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.280 but I was more embarrassed, like being like with my 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:14.440 sisters and them knowing how badly it wants. Just like, yeah, no, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:19.719 I did like that you said though, when you guys 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.479 like addressed it and how you were like kind of 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.200 because you do think like ti, even though everyone's like 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.640 that's not true, You're like, no, yes, it is like 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.560 a lot that you said. I believe, Yeah, and I 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.200 don't think ties this kind of guy where he would 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.680 out of spite not do it because of the publicity 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.760 behind it. But you know, I don't think he even 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.120 considers that. I don't think, so that's not the equation. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.080 But I'm just saying that because I could see some 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.160 men being like, no, just because other people you brought 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.160 other people into this doesn't mean I'm going to do it. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.760 I'm actually not going to for that reason. Yeah, but 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.800 you told him what you wanted, and that just makes 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.360 me agree. So that's just my thing. Well, look, basically now, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.920 it's like get the skinner gets felt, but really like 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.520 in real true life. It's like you're at that age 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.080 or let's go it's Ready Player Too. I don't know 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.800 who Player Too is, but I'm gonna go out and 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.200 find him. WHOA I'm saying, like if he be like that, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.960 you know girl, No, I'm proud of you. I loved 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.440 that Player Too. Isn't that the movie? It's Ready Player 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:23.080 one movie, but your your Player one. So and he's 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.200 we've been playing for quite a long time. But like 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.040 you know, he knows you know well, We're very happy 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.760 to have you on the show. I'm so happy to 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.280 be because we've just family. It's I mean, you are 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.200 our family, and we're just we're going through a lot 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.600 right now. Michael and I are actually fighting in this moment. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.320 We're putting on a professional stage. No, I can't feel it. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.320 Trust me in the room right now, you guys made 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.280 Mark lie not even looking at you because I'm still angry. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.920 She hasn't made eye contact with me. I'm really so far, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:54.840 so far since we've been I have a professional and 0:07:54.840 --> 0:08:00.320 I have a great how you are. That's why, Yeah, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.239 can we bring up what we started talking about, Tina, 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.960 look at me now. I'm not looking at you because 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.440 I'm still piste off at you, so I'm not going 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.240 to look at you. So can we can we discuss 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.640 what we started talking about when Sarah, when you were 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.880 over yesterday or the other day, about the Kate Hudson thing. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.160 Oh yeah, Mike really wants to talk about this. I 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.480 really want to talk about the fact I've been stewing 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.160 in this. He literally stewing. He heard him say, what 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.360 the F bomb? You're welcome Easton. I didn't do it. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:35.840 So Michael got real upset because our friend Leslie, she 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.960 sent us like a screenshot of people's tweet that said, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.600 Kate Hudson opens up about raising her daughter Rainey with 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:51.800 a genderless approach, her daughter with a genderless approach. Did 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.320 you read the article though? Did you read more into 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.640 it about what that means? Because sometimes genderless might be 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.400 falling at me. Can you guys just tell me what 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:04.320 that means? Well, that's the thing I think. No, no, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.600 because maybe they're genderless as in, hey, we're gonna like 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.080 for example, Leslie, Leslie bought Jolie a lawnmower and said, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.920 I I don't buy gender like I don't buy gender 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:22.640 appropriate thing. So for Jolie, she bought her a lawn lawnmower, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.000 and then maybe for Jace, she'll buy him a broom set. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.240 So maybe that is as far as she's going, maybe 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.760 because that's genderless or is it genderless as in you 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.960 can maybe if they're they're going farther whereas and you 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:42.640 can be whatever? What was whatever that is? Did she say? 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.080 What did she say? So? Did you read the article? No? 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:50.120 I didn't read the article. I saw enough. But is 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:55.040 it is? It? Is it? Um? Was it something where 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.439 she said, you know, you can be a male or 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.400 a female? Is that genderless? I guess I'm confused what 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.920 I think there's a difference here where it's not talking 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.280 about remember when we had justin his wife on bald're 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.400 talking about they're talking about feminism, which that was about 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:16.640 a quality. So that's different genderless. I feel like that's 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.160 just it explains itself like genderless, and even if it's 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.040 about something a surface level as toys, it's like what 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.760 so you're going to purposely go out of your way 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.000 and say, here, Jay's, here's some barbies. So she said 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.720 she's not going to let her kid or no, I 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.120 guess you're right. Yeah, I think I think at least 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.839 we should have the facts. Yeah, and then you can 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.960 interpret it however you want. So, she says, we still 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.200 don't know what she's going to identify as. And she 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.319 said when press during the interview about whether raising her 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.000 new daughter was different from raising her two boys, it 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.040 doesn't really change my approach, but there's definitely a difference. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.920 I think you just raise your kids individually, like a 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.280 genderless approach. She continued. I will say that right now, 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.240 she's incredibly feminine in her energy, her sounds, and her 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:05.640 way because she's biologically a female. Michael, oh, Michael letters, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:11.520 send your emails to and it's very different from the boys. Now. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.719 I think that can mean, you know, like you don't 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.360 automatically have to make the bedroom pink. You could let 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.080 your kid decide what colors they like, right Like Jolie 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.959 likes green. That's her favorite color right now, so so 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:33.840 I guess green she so like. Obviously, though what she's 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.320 doing is by by her kind of choosing to not 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.559 do things like the little girl. She's going to be 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:45.960 a girl she was she was biologically born as a female. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.760 Part Let's say she's going to not buy pink, or 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.920 she's gonna not do, so her daughter's going to grow 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:56.200 up ly liking Yeah, that's what I'm a little maybe blues. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.400 Why can't girls were Jolie's blue clothes. I'm nothing, I 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.520 have nothing to instead. No, I don't either. I'm just 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.120 saying if she grows up, okay, So like, let's say 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.160 you grow up only listening to like a certain type 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.800 of music, You're only gonna like that music. You get 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.000 what I'm saying. So by her saying like, I'm gonna 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.560 let my daughter choose, well, you're really not because you're not. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.040 Like you're putting blue and right in front of if 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.199 it's not pink, and you're gonna put paining her room blue, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.280 then you're then you're saying, hey, like blue. What makes 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.640 you so angry about this? Because all of this talk 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.800 about the sexual identity and everything, I get, Like, I 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.200 get like people they might not feel like the gender 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.840 they are. I have no issue with that. But when 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.000 it comes to a child and they're bio, they're born 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.120 and their biological parts are male or female, that is 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.160 black and white. That is how your higher power, whoever 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.320 you choose to believe in, science, evolution, God, whatever, that 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:52.760 is how you were created biologically, scientifically created. So now 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.000 all of a sudden, it's oh, no, he's born with 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.120 he was born with a penis. But you let him 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.080 decide if he wants a penis. What a lot of 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:05.160 people are going to disagree with you, please, they will, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.520 And that's fine, and that's everybody can be entitled to 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.600 their own feelings and opinion. But as we progress, maybe 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:19.120 as a human race, try looking at it, maybe a 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.319 little more openly or with a different perspective. Okay, but 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.800 let me ask you something if just like the whole 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.000 topic we're talking about with painting the room pink versus 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.720 painting room blue, So if you have a son that's 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.320 born and you say, all right, well, I'm not going 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.480 to call you a boy. I'm just gonna call you 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.960 a child or a thing or an it or whatever, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.240 And aren't you aren't you really steering your your son 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.440 or your daughter in a in a opposite direction like you. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.840 They don't they're not gonna know what to identify with. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.679 They don't even know, they don't even know well enough 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.040 until they're older. So how what are you supposed to 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.680 do when you're When Julie comes to us and we say, hey, 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.079 you're a beautiful little girl. Oh no, I'm sorry, you're 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.320 a beautiful little child. Yeah. And she wants to wear 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.400 a dress. Oh, Joey, you don't have to wear a dress. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.440 You can wear you can wear this to Yeah. I 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:17.160 think that's fine. I think it's very complicated. But that's 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.080 my only Did she do this with her boys or 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.280 she just doing it with the girl? Great question. I'm 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.160 just I'm actually interesting and I will do this. Get 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.640 this so that you can because I I think that 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.280 you're you have your opinion. Everybody's intild to it. I 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.320 think if we had a parent in here that has 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.920 a child that was biologically born a girl but identifies 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.400 as a boy, then you could I think, so what 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.240 they go through or the child so time out. I 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.800 think that's different than what he's saying, because what I 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.440 heard you say that if for some reason, let's say Jason, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.480 obviously we were raising him as a boy and we're 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.520 calling him a beautiful little boy and blues and all 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.160 those things. Um, but if he comes to us when 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.320 he is ten years old, says mommy and daddy, I 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.720 I feel like I'm a girl that you're not going 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:11.680 to You're going to love him. That's what you you're 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:16.120 just saying. He's just saying to not persuade them in 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.800 the very beginning. If you don't treat them how they 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.520 biologically are created from an early age, then they're not 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.760 going to know. Let them make up their mind. If 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.640 you don't, then you're making the mind for him. And 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.360 this is, by the way, this is how he acts 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:33.680 when we argue. So he doesn't like respect having an opinion. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.040 Let me ask you a question. I'm going to throw 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.280 out an example that's a little you know, to the side, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.360 and then you guys can discuss it. So my little niece, Chelsea, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.800 who is I just worship her, I love her. And 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.400 I said, oh, Chelsea, you're so cute. And she said, Auntie, 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.680 I don't want to be cute. I want to be athletic. Okay, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.600 So that's not anything to do with gender, but like 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.560 it really was thought provoking for me because she's so 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.160 into gymnastics that she doesn't want me to go you're 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.960 so cute, You're so cute. She wants to be athletic. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.480 Like I feel, yeah, and here I am wearing hot 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.240 pink sweaever, but like I feel like children are going 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.120 to go through their own things, but like three four 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.240 or five, six, like how old does this baby? Three 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.200 months old? Six months old? Like yeah, and they're not 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.680 even gonna go there at that age, it's going to 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.560 be so like if someone gets her a blanket, a 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.400 pink blanket, is she's just gonna give it away. That's 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.440 what I'm just I'm confused. Well, yeah, I think that's 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.360 parts confusing. Then also you're what kind of I think 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.560 where you're coming from, Mike, is you're also confusing the 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.400 child of what they are who they are, So you're 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.280 not only in this day and age is who we 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.840 are and I'm still figuring myself out. I'm still confused. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.960 I mean not about my gender. And I can't even 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.440 imagine how hard that would be to not identify or 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.320 or you know, have those thoughts of I know, I'm 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.760 soppos like a boy, but I like a girl, and 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.000 so I can't even imagine that that like that being 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.600 torn like that and now understanding and not feeling things. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:06.280 But if you know, again your parents and we're not 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.240 saying you can be whatever you want, because then it's confusing. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.120 It's like you are a boy, and if he comes 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:14.520 to us later on it says that he thinks he's 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.200 a girl. That's his decision, not we're not just because 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.800 society has stereo types of boys in blue and girls 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.920 in pink? What is wrong with that? Let the kid 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.160 decide when they get older and they know who cares. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.239 That's the way society has been for years. It's not 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.320 a big deal. Well that's what it's like. It's not 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.119 like we're in like the like. It's not like the 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.159 girls like mom, I want to like I want to 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.720 go place, you know what I mean. That wouldn't be 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.680 weird if she was like, mom, like I want to 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.719 be a tomboy. Okay, So then it's like, why not 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.480 just let her? Yeah, get there? I get that. But 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.920 then I also think, Michael of society. Shouldn't some things 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.600 in society change? Yes, absolutely, shouldn't be like, well, that's 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.400 how it is in society, and this is but I'm 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.679 talking about things like that, like the colors or you know, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.720 to boys, you're gonnauy different toys. Fine, Am I gonna 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:06.400 buy Jason a pack of Barbies? No? Why not? Because 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.800 he's gonna play with g I Joes. If he doesn't 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:09.840 want to play with him, he wants to play with 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.639 Jolie's Barbie's fine. Fine, you can have that choice. Okay, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.200 so you basically you're making him, but I'm gonna I'm 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.880 choosing to raise my son as a son. But if 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.359 he comes to you and wants to be a girl, 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.480 you would be okay with that absolutely, because I can't 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:30.760 even imagine having that. I'm just confused, confusion. I will 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.040 say to be open minded and that maybe help people 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.800 out there that are getting piste off and listen to me, 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.040 say go on. This rant is to Amy's point, maybe 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.160 years down the road, society gets to a place where 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.240 some psychologists and doctors get together and they write a 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.880 book on how to raise a child genderless appropriately and scientifically, 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.159 where it's not you're not forcing them in either direction, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.720 but it's truly somehow they figure out how to be neutral, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.480 not depriving them of something or the other right where 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.600 they where it's like, hey, if you do this, if 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.760 you get pink, you get blue or whatever. It may be, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.640 like maybe that can happen in the future, but then 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.840 what do you do with names? Like her daughter's name 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:13.600 is Rainy Rose, but yeah, she's genderless, Like what you know, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.680 launch your neighbor name. I'm sorry, I don't want to 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.479 call it a girl. I don't want to call her 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.280 daughter a girl. Name it a mutual name, you know, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.040 that could be either way. A Leslie, that could be 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.159 a male or female. Leslie's not gonna like you for 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:34.320 that comment. Sorry, Leslie. We just met a girl named Michael. Yeah, 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.040 that's true, we did so. I mean, you know him, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.840 give your every child, it's going to have a name 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.639 that can go either way. I wonder if she's like 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.639 actually taking it this seriously? Are we all just getting 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.080 up in arms about nothing? But it's not even about 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.240 Kate Hudson really personally. It's it's just about this whole 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.440 theme society right now. And oh, don't call my son 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:59.320 a boy because let him decide. We may have interpreted 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.479 from her what was two sentences? Quite like are we 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.160 going with? But that's okay because you're having an interesting 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.639 discussion right again, It's not about her, It's about takeaway Michael. 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.000 If you really listen to yourself, is that if one 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.800 of your kids came to you, you're going to love 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.160 them and accept them no matter what, wouldn't matter. That's 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.520 what everybody should hope for. Yeah, absolutely, and how we 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.879 how we're raising our children are their gender that they 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.240 are right now, that they biologically were born as I 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.000 just really God created. We believe in God, Jesus Christ. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.679 All right, well, let's getting fit and staying healthy. Always 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.080 sounds easier said than done, right, Sarah over there? Okay, Well, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.000 open fit is amazing because it's bringing you something new 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.719 that makes it even easier to never miss a sweat 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:46.960 session so you can lose the commute to the gym 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.919 or my house there because we always started working out. Basically, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.920