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Speaker 1: Press the music. Here we go wine down Hi Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast. There was one of those kind of days

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Speaker 1: I'm just ready to start, so I have a special

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Speaker 1: wind down today because she actually wants to introduce Hi. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's me. My name is Sarah, and I don't have

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Speaker 1: a ring, So let's just get that out of the

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Speaker 1: way before we go further. Humpy Monday. Everyone. I'm wearing pink.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing pink, and you're adorable sweater and your jeans,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still noticing no ring on your finger. Not

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are plenty, but not one on the finger.

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Speaker 1: We just can't figure it out. So poor Sarah. You

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Speaker 1: guys obviously know she's been dating the same man for

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Speaker 1: six years, not months, not weeks, years, and she gave

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Speaker 1: him an ultimatum that if he did not give her

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Speaker 1: the ring by the new year, she was going to

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Speaker 1: leave him. He does not have a ring, and she's

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Speaker 1: still with me. Here I am, and here you are.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like Sarah had to come on the

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Speaker 1: show because so many people you turned off your comments

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Speaker 1: section on Instagram. And it's not that I'm like scared

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Speaker 1: or anything, because I feel like a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were like coming into my d MS hot and I

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Speaker 1: was like, listen. I was at a wedding for someone else.

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Speaker 1: I got eighty seven comments on a picture of MENTI

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Speaker 1: of them telling me how many days I have left.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can count. I know too, like I'm

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Speaker 1: also wearing fur and like my hair looks really good.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice if somebody told me you did.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is everyone like coming at me? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, because you get like everyone listens and they're

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Speaker 1: best in the fact that you had eight more days too.

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Speaker 1: At that time, was at a wedding and I'm on

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Speaker 1: the dance floor and like you're I'm getting all these

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Speaker 1: checks and people are like Sarah like your Instagram and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I look really good. And

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Speaker 1: then it's like no, like you need to go see

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Speaker 1: the comment, and I was like, I mean, well, then

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Speaker 1: I felt bad because when it didn't happen on New

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Speaker 1: Year's Day, I mean I was still giving hope that

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Speaker 1: maybe New Year's Day. But when it when it was

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Speaker 1: January two, I went to your page and so many people,

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Speaker 1: so many people were deeming me emailing here. I heart

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Speaker 1: radio and been like, what happened with Sarah? I mean

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Speaker 1: people go to your page just to see if they

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Speaker 1: didn't want people to like hey, when it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: getting so many d I feel so bad for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, do you feel bad. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: in cobbo. I'm doing absolutely great, thank you, but like

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Speaker 1: you had a no, I had a meltdown for sure,

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Speaker 1: but like it could be worse, and I'm like, don't

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Speaker 1: feel bad for me. Thank you for feeling bad, but

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Speaker 1: like have you have you brought it up with ti

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Speaker 1: amazing question, Mike, thank you for asking. So that was

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Speaker 1: my New Year's like not resolution, but that was my like,

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Speaker 1: okay January one to like when we got back to

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Speaker 1: l A, I was like, I'm not bringing it up,

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Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna let it ride, and I'm I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it. You're really the only person I think

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Speaker 1: I've talked about it with, because like my sisters, no

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Speaker 1: one's like called me. We just like have not so well.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it because we went to an event

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Speaker 1: together a couple of days ago and I said, look,

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Speaker 1: it's the elephant in the room. We got to talk

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Speaker 1: about it, and then I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: it again until you want to talk about it. So

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Speaker 1: she basically said that she had a conversation with Tay

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Speaker 1: and said I was like, we're not I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not bringing it up like I'm done, like because I

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Speaker 1: had like a couple of meltdowns and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: tell I don't have meltdown. Sarah doesn't cry my only girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not a crier. I'm not like a

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Speaker 1: I flip out. But I had like a full meltdown,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, get it out of your system,

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Speaker 1: let it happen, and now we're done, like we're just

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Speaker 1: But here's the question that I asked her in the car.

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Speaker 1: I said, done until when done until April? I done

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Speaker 1: until May. I thought about that, Okay, you thought about it.

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Speaker 1: I think I can't set like a time. I can't what,

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Speaker 1: let's November this year, No, because what I told you,

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Speaker 1: don't go up with your finger because it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like what I said, like, okay, in case everyone forgot,

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Speaker 1: I'm a scorpio. And until I really feel like I

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Speaker 1: like that's why I was like I could tell I

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Speaker 1: and like God forbid for him, Like he'll never come

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Speaker 1: back from that if he's like when you're done, You're mean,

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Speaker 1: you are so done. You don't talk to them, and

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Speaker 1: you don't look in the direction, and you just you

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Speaker 1: just shut your heart. And that's why I don't want

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Speaker 1: that to happen to him, and I really don't think

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Speaker 1: it will. But that's why I was like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to set a day. I'm not going to set

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Speaker 1: a time. It's just gonna be like a thing. But

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. We're planning, like we're planning a November wedding.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, how is that going to happen?

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen where she wants long sleep. She wants

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Speaker 1: a long sleeve November wedding done exactly, so long sleep

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Speaker 1: November wedding, that's what she wants. She's referencing a photo

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Speaker 1: had sleeves. But no, that's what she gets done. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about it until June because

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Speaker 1: I think by June, if you're not in her face, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're not engaged, by June, will be moving because

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Speaker 1: you're moving to Nashville basically with my dude. I mean

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Speaker 1: of seems like sense. But so what do you want

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Speaker 1: to say to everybody out there right now that is

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Speaker 1: blowing you up that thank you? I think I don't know, well,

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Speaker 1: because I understand that they care. Hello, I care about

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Speaker 1: things are going on in people's lives that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I think that people were more like frustrated, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, look, I'm still standing, I'm still breathing,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. I chose not to leave, but I felt

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Speaker 1: embarrassed for you, and you know what, That's what made

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Speaker 1: me mad, as I felt like he you asked what

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that's super disrespectful. It definitely hurt

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Speaker 1: my feelings more than anything, Like my feelings were hurt,

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Speaker 1: but I wasn't really embarrassed for other people. I was

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Speaker 1: more embarrassed for like my family, like you, like for

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Speaker 1: that's not true, You're like, no, yes, it is like

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Speaker 1: a lot that you said. I believe, Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think ties this kind of guy where he would

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that because I could see some

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Speaker 1: men being like, no, just because other people you brought

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Speaker 1: other people into this doesn't mean I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually not going to for that reason. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you told him what you wanted, and that just makes

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Speaker 1: me agree. So that's just my thing. Well, look, basically now,

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Speaker 1: it's like get the skinner gets felt, but really like

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Speaker 1: in real true life. It's like you're at that age

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Speaker 1: or let's go it's Ready Player Too. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who Player Too is, but I'm gonna go out and

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Speaker 1: find him. WHOA I'm saying, like if he be like that,

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Speaker 1: you know girl, No, I'm proud of you. I loved

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Speaker 1: that Player Too. Isn't that the movie? It's Ready Player

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Speaker 1: one movie, but your your Player one. So and he's

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Speaker 1: we've been playing for quite a long time. But like

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Speaker 1: you know, he knows you know well, We're very happy

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Speaker 1: right now. Michael and I are actually fighting in this moment.

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Speaker 1: We're putting on a professional stage. No, I can't feel it.

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Speaker 1: Trust me in the room right now, you guys made

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Speaker 1: Mark lie not even looking at you because I'm still angry.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't made eye contact with me. I'm really so far,

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Speaker 1: so far since we've been I have a professional and

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Speaker 1: I have a great how you are. That's why, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can we bring up what we started talking about, Tina,

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Speaker 1: look at me now. I'm not looking at you because

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Speaker 1: I'm still piste off at you, so I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to look at you. So can we can we discuss

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Speaker 1: what we started talking about when Sarah, when you were

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mike really wants to talk about this. I

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Speaker 1: really want to talk about the fact I've been stewing

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Speaker 1: in this. He literally stewing. He heard him say, what

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Speaker 1: the F bomb? You're welcome Easton. I didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: So Michael got real upset because our friend Leslie, she

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Speaker 1: Kate Hudson opens up about raising her daughter Rainey with

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Speaker 1: a genderless approach, her daughter with a genderless approach. Did

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Speaker 1: it about what that means? Because sometimes genderless might be

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Speaker 1: because maybe they're genderless as in, hey, we're gonna like

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Speaker 1: appropriate thing. So for Jolie, she bought her a lawn lawnmower,

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Speaker 1: So maybe that is as far as she's going, maybe

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Speaker 1: because that's genderless or is it genderless as in you

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Speaker 1: can be whatever? What was whatever that is? Did she say?

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Speaker 1: What did she say? So? Did you read the article? No?

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Speaker 1: I didn't read the article. I saw enough. But is

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Speaker 1: I think there's a difference here where it's not talking

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Speaker 1: talking about they're talking about feminism, which that was about

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Speaker 1: a quality. So that's different genderless. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: so you're going to purposely go out of your way

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Speaker 1: and say, here, Jay's, here's some barbies. So she said

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Speaker 1: Amy texts me and Michael about two weeks ago and

460
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Speaker 1: was like, does Michael still want a motorcycle? And I'm like,

461
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Speaker 1: oh my god, babe, did you look at your text message?

462
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Speaker 1: Holy moly, I think you're going to get a free motorcycle.

463
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Speaker 1: And Michael's like, oh my god. I was like, tell

464
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Speaker 1: me I'm not gonna get a motorcycle. Tell me I'm

465
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Speaker 1: not gonna get a motorcycle and something we have to

466
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Speaker 1: do or whatever. And so then I'm like texting Tory,

467
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Speaker 1: I'm texting East and I'm texting Amy like trying to

468
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Speaker 1: figure out. I'm like, She's like, finally, she says, well,

469
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Speaker 1: it's not You're not getting a motorcycle. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I always just a guest. I was like, I was like,

471
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Speaker 1: that's a balloon plate, honey, where are we at with

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Speaker 1: Today is a bad day to ask her? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She's not too thrilled with the way our morning's call. Um,

474
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Speaker 1: where where you're not getting a motorcycle? That's where it's

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Speaker 1: at right now today, That's where we stand in this minute,

476
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Speaker 1: right now, maybe later today, depending a couple of therapy

477
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Speaker 1: after this, so we're for sure not talking the rest

478
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Speaker 1: of the day. I'll take it. I'll take the kids

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Speaker 1: tonight if you want to go get some rest. What

480
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Speaker 1: and by rest I think he means out. So sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh so Michael wants a motorcycle, I said, every guest

482
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Speaker 1: that we've had on is pretty much shot it down.

483
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Speaker 1: Boris everybody else? Literally everyone? When why the only person

484
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Speaker 1: that says yes to motorcycles my friend Rachel, who because

485
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Speaker 1: her husband has a motorcycle. I'm just very yes. Three,

486
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Speaker 1: I'm just very fearful for the fact that when you

487
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Speaker 1: do have a motorcycle, you're gonna hurt yourself really bad,

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have You're going to be the

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Speaker 1: guy from the upside, which is fine, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't want you to hurt yourself. Great film, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Um So, I just what do you mean what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on a motorcycle? Sarah? I mean really like not.

494
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Speaker 1: He's got two kids, not a shot, and he's getting sorry.

495
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I went to work out this morning and

496
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Speaker 1: this is my second watch and I'm wearing pink. I'm

497
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Speaker 1: just all over the place. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm done.

498
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Speaker 1: Two kids that will be super proud. You have a question, though,

499
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Speaker 1: you know I like to be in the middle. Um

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Speaker 1: what you just like? Is it like the thrill? I'm always, always,

501
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: always always wondered one. I couldn't get one when I

502
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Speaker 1: was younger and single because I was playing football, and

503
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Speaker 1: that's like would have been the worst thing ever. Is

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Speaker 1: there something we can replace it with? Like do you

505
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Speaker 1: want to go skydiving? Yeah? Another motorcycle? What about video games?

506
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Speaker 1: That allow video games? Back in the house. I know

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Speaker 1: that actually doesn't even entire one because I don't even

508
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Speaker 1: have at the time. So when you have the time,

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Speaker 1: we'll ride a motorcycle. Do you want it for like

510
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Speaker 1: day to day or do you want it for like

511
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Speaker 1: a random Sunday after Sunday afternoon. I just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I just I'm fearful now because everyone's telling

513
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Speaker 1: me how dangerous it is and how badly you can

514
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Speaker 1: kill yourself. Yeah, it's just like a core. But I

515
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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe today I say, sure, why don't you

516
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Speaker 1: get a motorcycle drive off a cliff? You know in

517
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Speaker 1: the scenario? Sure, what we guys go do that thing

518
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Speaker 1: that they did. No, I can't even para shoot or

519
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Speaker 1: what's that called para sale? I did that one time

520
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Speaker 1: on spring break and I was having a panic attack. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't even so like if you could replace it

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Speaker 1: with something that would make you equally as aroused, like

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Speaker 1: alight fast back. Okay, let's get him that. Fine, how

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Speaker 1: do we get how do we do that? Seven something fastback? Sure? Google?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like next week, maybe not next week, a

526
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Speaker 1: couple of years. Okay, So we have a he's going

527
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Speaker 1: to be calling in though I don't know who he is,

528
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Speaker 1: but apparently he's going to arouse us with a motorcycle.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Charlie. All right here to weigh in on the

563
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Speaker 1: motorcycle debate that is raging. By the way, though, can

564
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Speaker 1: you just when he walked out of the room is

565
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Speaker 1: when you actually said your thoughts on it? And I

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567
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Speaker 1: six ft six man walked out of love. I just

568
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Speaker 1: don't get it, and everybody's different. I don't get motorcycles.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't get motorcycle guys. I

570
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: don't get motorcycle guys. I hear them go buy my house,

571
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: and it's really loud and it's annoying. Motorcycle guys are annoying.

572
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry they go buy on the white line. We're

573
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Speaker 1: all stuck in traffic. We all hate them, we do

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Speaker 1: of haters. Anyway, Joining us now is Dr Don Vaughan,

575
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Speaker 1: who has an angle on this. Dr Vaughan, Hi, are

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Speaker 1: you Vaughan? Good to be here? All right? So what

577
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Speaker 1: what is your angle on this? Yeah? I mean my

578
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Speaker 1: angle is that I don't have a personal angle, but

579
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Speaker 1: I do have some science about it. Um. Yeah, you know.

580
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Speaker 1: I mean people have long talked about motorcycling and how

581
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Speaker 1: they feel about it, but no one's actually been able

582
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Speaker 1: to rigorously study if what writers report is real or

583
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Speaker 1: if it's just something that people say. So we actually

584
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Speaker 1: we gotta study, funded up by Harley David, sent to

585
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: look at fifty motorcycle riders, and we scan their brains

586
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Speaker 1: and took hormone samples before, during, and after riding and

587
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: driving a car. And what we found was that, um,

588
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Speaker 1: riding a motorcycle actually decreased io markers of stress by

589
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: about so that means that from before after about twenty

590
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: five minute ride, we saw that people actually showed a

591
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Speaker 1: decrease in hormonal soda. Yeah, soda swinging on a swing

592
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Speaker 1: more or a diary swing. Um. Well, Interestingly, driving in

593
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Speaker 1: a car didn't show that so I'm not sure swinging

594
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Speaker 1: on a swing would either. Um, and I'm not here

595
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Speaker 1: to add the key to either the perspective. I don't

596
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Speaker 1: think anyone needs any data to tell you that riding

597
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Speaker 1: a motorcycle is more dangerous than driving a car, and

598
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Speaker 1: driving car is probably more dangerous than sitting at home

599
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Speaker 1: and getting on the internet. But um, you know, if

600
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Speaker 1: people want to make their own choices, there are some

601
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Speaker 1: interesting mental effects we saw too, which shows that while

602
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: riding a motorcycle there's actually changing brain state. Uh. And

603
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Speaker 1: the change of brain state looked like people were able

604
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Speaker 1: to get more focused, presumably because they're focusing on the

605
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Speaker 1: road and not on anything outside that's distracting up there

606
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Speaker 1: the focus and there, so you can immediately see a

607
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Speaker 1: change in the brain state during by the point two minute, right,

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Speaker 1: so you know they are there are differences, and no

609
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Speaker 1: one has studied it because it's not easy to study

610
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Speaker 1: someone going tips on a motorcycle and scanning their electrical

611
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Speaker 1: brain activity. But we were able to pull it off.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you were able to find the only people

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Speaker 1: that haven't killed themselves yet on a motorcycle to be

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Speaker 1: able to undert market sized But yeah, is there any

615
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Speaker 1: reason to question this study since it was paid for

616
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Speaker 1: by Harley Davidson. Oh, I think that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: great one. It's a really interesting point generally because I

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Speaker 1: love that the public thinks that scientists are these like

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Speaker 1: objective robots who look at data objectively and that it's

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Speaker 1: all HiT's all fine. But you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: you look at drugs studies, you look at this results

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Speaker 1: that people get. Do you know who fund studies on

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Speaker 1: It's the National Institute It's on It's from the n

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Speaker 1: i H. But if the National Institutes on drug abuse,

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Speaker 1: you want to get another grant, you better believe that

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Speaker 1: we as scientists have a unconscious or sometimes conscious bias

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Speaker 1: Um what we did find? Uh? I promised them. I said, hey,

633
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Speaker 1: you know, this is an academic study. Whatever I find,

634
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I find and I can publish it. That we happen

635
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: to find these particular results they're just they're more like

636
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: in the realm of fact, I don't know if they're

637
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: necessarily good or bad and the kind of person that

638
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: you are. So I can understand completely that some people

639
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: have no interest in writing a motorcycle that that doesn't

640
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: find with me um and for other people like I

641
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, Look, we're in the most stressful

642
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: period of human history where you're constantly bombarded with information.

643
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Social media is out of control, and I think people

644
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: do look for ways to to modify their stress. So

645
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: if it's swinging on a swing, go for it. You

646
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: hopping on a motorcycle, all right, that's the choice that

647
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: you want to make. I'm probably the wrong guy to

648
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: get into debate about it because as just a personal perspective,

649
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm a life and skydiver. I get something that when

650
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: I go into the lab and play with p values

651
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: and data for ten hours a day, that just doesn't

652
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: give you everything I need. So for me, getting and

653
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: jumping out of a plane dout and that just works

654
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: for me that if I don't, it's just like if

655
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: you don't get out and go to the gym after

656
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: a while, then you also feel stressed out and not

657
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: everybody feels that way. So there is no scientist has

658
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: the answer for you. There is no like perfect life

659
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: to live. All I've interested in is everybody has a

660
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: different avenue on their mental health or it works that. Um,

661
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: this one just hasn't been talked about or rigorously studied enough.

662
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean I respect that. You know, you're basically saying, hey,

663
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: just like use skydive may not be the safest thing,

664
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: but it's something that you know gets you centered and

665
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: chill and relaxed, So don't owners. Yeah, yeah, you know what. Look,

666
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: it's so funny because my family, for a while, I said, oh,

667
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I was talking about getting a motorcycle because

668
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: I would I would be drive in l A traffic

669
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: to U C l A, every single thing, and I

670
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: would come home and I was so pissed, so angry.

671
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't even leave the lap until ten

672
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: o'clock at night because there's so much damn traffic at

673
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: the angry and it was the craziest thing. But one

674
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: day in my family said, you know what, why don't

675
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: you get a motorcycle? And I was blown away because, look,

676
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I still don't. I don't ride because I didn't have

677
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: time to take the course and make it happen. But

678
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: it was so interesting, was like, look, I'd rather take

679
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: you and this, you know, whatever the changes and risks,

680
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, have you to be happy and and

681
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: something that feels good for you. And it's but its

682
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: found it interesting that so many people report that a

683
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: lot of people are skeptical, fair enough that people say

684
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. You don't know whether to believe

685
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: that were not. But there does seem to be something

686
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: real about for some people. And it's a it's a

687
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: it's a biased sample. These are people who are experienced

688
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: motorcycle riders. That's not a munch of people. We train

689
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: depth so they happen to get this stress relief and

690
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: it works for them. Well, I think that's fascinating and

691
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I actually have something a little more important to talk

692
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: to you about though. Are you single? Oh my taken,

693
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your picture right now. I'm like, you'd

694
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: just be so great for tany r ad but cute

695
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: little dimple, you know, like smart, smart scientists. But it

696
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: has to be you know, it had to be somebody

697
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: who can handle talking like a dork. Good on her.

698
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: But well, I appreciate your thoughts and your wisdom and

699
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: your neuroscientology. Everybody had it back. Make whatever choice works

700
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: for you. Thanks by So where do we stand now?

701
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: Does that change anything? Janna? No, because he basically said

702
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: that whatever you like to do gives you like him

703
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: golf and go golfing what ever? And that was the

704
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: Harley Davidson paid for it. That's that's the stupidest thing

705
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Do we already know that, we already

706
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: know that you would love to ride a motorcycle. It's dangerous.

707
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: You have two kids, you have a family, But right now, sure,

708
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: go right off a cliff. I don't care. I'm that's dangerous.

709
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: Opposite baby, opposite witch today not today, sorry, not today?

710
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't come hanging up the head you

711
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: want to get Just do whatever you want. I don't care.

712
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. So what was the important thing

713
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: we have to talk about? Why are you looking at

714
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: me like that eating your chocolate? I just, oh, I

715
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: just I'm annoyed with you today, it's all Why because

716
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: I apologize and do the right thing, and then he

717
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: totally take away my apology in the car because it

718
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough for you, even after after he said

719
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: after he said, you know, if that really meant a

720
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: lot to me, thank you so much. And then you

721
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: throw that in the car while we're in the car

722
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: parking in the I Heart radio garage about my BS

723
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: apology and I'm like, damn, that was a heartfelt apology. Well,

724
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I apologize for taking away from your apology.

725
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: I do I docks. Have we covered why you were

726
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: apologizing in the first place. You always just want to

727
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: get it goes there. I get scared, but I yeah,

728
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: this is what I love about this show. It's like

729
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: a cake. What got it with a knife, you know,

730
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: because like the center, there's no Well. I walked in

731
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: and Sarah looked at me and I was like, I

732
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: hate my husband. And again we all know I'm wearing pink,

733
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: so like stood up and put my arms up and

734
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: she just looked at me. I was like, and she

735
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: comes over and shows I hate my husband. I was

736
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: feeling excited, but it should have worn my black. Would

737
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: you like to start, honey? I mean, what is there?

738
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: I apologize for coming back on your apology. I accept it.

739
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Is it about the Mark wants to know? Apologizing the

740
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: first place. Um, Jane is feeling a lot of stress

741
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: and pressure right now because she's just busy all the time,

742
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: Like she always has content to shoot in social media,

743
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: stuff to post and just it's just she's doing everything

744
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: and being a mom, being a rock star and all that. Well,

745
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: you know now that I'm not doing the medical sales gig,

746
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: this is my gig, and then other stuff that we're

747
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: building as a brand together is my job as well.

748
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Which a lot of things are an infant stage, so

749
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do, right And so

750
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Jane is just feeling a lot of stress because a

751
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff immediate immediately right now is is

752
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: up to her, and she just kind of feels like

753
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: she has to do all the work sometimes and wants

754
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: me to help out in other ways. And we still

755
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: are working out communication where sometimes you know, she might

756
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: kind of unload unload on me or expect something from

757
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: me when I don't know, Like I'm trying to figure

758
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: out this whole world, this whole influencer entrepreneur, entrepreneur, self

759
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: employeed type of world. I've always been structured, you know,

760
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: So this is entrepreneurial. Is that the way? Yeah? So

761
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: she's she's used to to kind of being her own

762
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: motivator and used to that. Again, this whole world I'm

763
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: figuring out, so I don't always know what I might

764
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: need to be doing or taking care of. And we

765
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: had we were on a hike at Priming the other

766
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: day and we had a discussion about content stuff and

767
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: it was finally a good open conversation, educating me on

768
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: why we need things, what what we should be taking

769
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: pictures for content And so now I'm like, okay, thank you.

770
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Now I know. Now it's explained to me. Now I'm

771
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: mindful when I'm at home or we're doing stuff why

772
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: we might need to take pictures or why we might

773
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: not need to do certain things. Because before that, just

774
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: saying hey we need content stuff, I don't know. I

775
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell that means. I don't even

776
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: know what the questions ask. It's just you. You have

777
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: the social media platform. I just assume you're taking care

778
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: of it, and so which is wrong to assume. And

779
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: instead of saying I should you know, I could have

780
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: been saying, hey, what can I do? Explain this to me?

781
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: I could have been more proactive on that front. But

782
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: so it's been a lot of that, and Jane spent

783
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure and I just again, while I'm

784
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: still learning, I need to take a more proactive approach

785
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: on helping out in different ways. And something out of

786
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: my pressure that I shouldn't have said that was not

787
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: very nice and not very nice. It's not that it

788
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: wasn't nice, it just I shouldn't have said it, and

789
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: it's a big trigger for him. So honestly, I don't

790
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: have a issue saying what it us because I feel

791
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: like nowadays, with women growing in in the world financially

792
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: and everything like that, there are probably more husbands at

793
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: or spouses that deal with this as males where their

794
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: wives make more than them or they make the money,

795
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. And so her comment was

796
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: she was so frustrated. She was like, well, I have

797
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: to do everything. I'm the one making the money. And

798
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: that's like an ultimate trigger from me ever since at

799
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: the beginning of our relationship, because pretty much from the

800
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: beginning of our relationship was when I was retiring from

801
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: football making really good money. So that's always been something

802
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: that weighed on me. And now when I felt like

803
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: we were finally in a place where we're we're co workers,

804
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: were doing stuff together. We're building this brand. We have

805
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: so many different olive branches that we're putting out there

806
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: and directions. And then to still hear that that's such

807
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: so validating the one making the money. I said, I

808
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: I feel the pressure to make the money. That's what

809
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: I said. I have to make all the money. No,

810
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: I have the pressure to make the money like the money,

811
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: which is said to him, regardless of value said it.

812
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: We both know what the outcome was, right, we both

813
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: know how it made me feel, right and which I said,

814
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry, but he says, I have a very

815
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: hard time apologizing. Initially, you do because I have a

816
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: reason of why I say things right and right and

817
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: again so because of our lack of communication. Your reason

818
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: behind saying things is because really you just wanted me

819
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: to help with more content stuff. You wanted me to

820
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: help do some more research on some things that maybe

821
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: we can set up for future endeavors, which again are

822
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: things that I might not think of because I'm still

823
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: new to all this, right, and for me, it's more myself.

824
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very insecure, and so I put the pressure

825
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: on me because if this doesn't doesn't work, then I'm

826
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: the failure. And then I've just totally made him take

827
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: a leap of faith to to do all this stuff

828
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: with me. And if this podcast fails, if our book

829
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: thing falls apart, if our show docuserius falls, if all

830
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: these things don't happen, Mom and Babes doesn't like, if

831
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: these things don't happen and I'm not successful, that means

832
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: that we're not successful. So that's all the pressure on me,

833
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: and that means that then we're both broke. And and

834
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: then I let I made him, not made him. I

835
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, he left a great job to to do this,

836
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: but if if I can't build it because of my name,

837
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: then we're screwed. And so that's all the pressure on me.

838
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, that's like working together, living together,

839
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: being together, and like there's a lot going on. You know.

840
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: It's really interesting though, to bring it all the way

841
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: back around to what we talked about at the beginning

842
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: of the show, is that you both are in a

843
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: gender old school society, gender role reversal, and it is complicated.

844
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: It is no matter how many times people say like

845
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it, I'm cool with the being Mr Mom,

846
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: it's it's hard well. And what made it worse today

847
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: was I had a shoot today, a photo shoot at

848
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: the house for some promotional thing, and I we were

849
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: having an issue with um overloading the nanny. We don't

850
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: want to make sure that so we're kind of having

851
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: an issue there, and so I said to him, Hey,

852
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: can can the nanny take Jolie to the park because

853
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: I can't have her here while I'm shooting this stuff.

854
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: So you know, I can have Jason while I'm doing

855
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: the shoot, but then if you don't mind just putting

856
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: him down. But all he hears is that his stuff

857
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: that he was going to do was not important because

858
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: because I make the money that he so that his

859
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: his time wasn't important. And I'm sorry, that's what That's

860
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: what when I said that, that's what it made you feel,

861
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: because that was not my intent at all for you

862
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: to feel that at all. And I believe that. I

863
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: believe that it was just unfortunate timing because of what

864
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: was said last night, and then this morning with it

865
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: being a decision, ran like at the top of the

866
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: morning and said something we discussed last night. It was hey,

867
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, even though she said even though you said, hey,

868
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: I can watch Jase while I'm doing the shoot. In

869
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: my head, I'm I'm in a corner. I'm like, you

870
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: can't watch Jace while you're doing a shoot, Like that's

871
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: whatdiculous superwoman, and I you don't have to. I'm like,

872
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I can take him. But then I felt like it

873
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: was regardless of what I had to do or didn't

874
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: have to do this morning, that was not. I felt

875
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: it like it wasn't even acknowledged. It was like, it

876
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what how I read into it, what

877
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: she didn't say and she didn't mean, but because of

878
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: my fears and triggers, I read into it like whatever

879
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: you had to do, it doesn't really matter right now,

880
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: like I have to do this, I have to work.

881
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: So basically, watch ja swam ar Nanny takes Jolia to

882
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: the park, and that's what's gonna happen where I'm like,

883
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: it was not I'm not saying it was, but that's

884
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: where I went because of just recent events and just

885
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: the way that panned out. I'm like, so, therefore, to

886
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: just wrap this up, I then apologize for how he

887
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: felt when I made that comment, and then that we

888
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: should communicate more. And then he really sincerely appreciate the apology,

889
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: and then somehow we started fighting again the heart parking

890
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: lot garage on the way that he said that my

891
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: apology was b asked, which makes me so angry because

892
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to apologize anyways, So the

893
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: fact that I did it from a good place and

894
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: didn't say but afterwards or and afterwards. Then when he

895
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, mother, you're ready to easton

896
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: like letting it out today. Anyways, here we are. I

897
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: feel like this is therapeutic, though I don't think this

898
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: will be the last of this discussion too well. We

899
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: have couple therapy after this, so I'm just like, this

900
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: day sucks. Good times. Well, on that note, we have

901
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: a really interesting caller on this show man. So this

902
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: is Caitlin, and I will let Janna sort of talk

903
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: a little bit about it, but she is from Love

904
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: after lock Up. I just we just need to get

905
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: her on the phone because I have to ask her. Hey, Caitlin,

906
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: so you're with the Wine Down crew. It's me, my husband,

907
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: and my girlfriend Sarah. Hi, guys, I have so many

908
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: questions to ask you, so let me just start from

909
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: the very beginning. You're dating someone you're dating someone that's

910
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: in prison. Yeah, how does somebody? How does that happen?

911
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Not only was he inpertance that he

912
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: was also missing a tooth. Totally not my thing. I'm

913
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: sorry he's missing a tooth. I haven't got some pictures

914
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: of him, but he's totally missing a bottom tooth and

915
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: I referred to it as a toothholes. You know, I've

916
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: never been a role that would a date one in

917
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: prison or v that was missing a true how did you?

918
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you meet him? Oh? So

919
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I actually we met while he was incorthrated m I

920
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, while he was in prison close Guest City.

921
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: He had a friend posted an ad on from Craigslist. Wait,

922
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: you can do that from jail. You can go on craigslist.

923
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: So he didn't do it hisself, as friends did it.

924
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: And I'm literally sitting there on the couch one day

925
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: like Ford, just kind of you know, looking for So

926
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: she's entertained my Craig post, asked right, and I stumble

927
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: across this picture and I like, holy crap, he's cute.

928
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: And that was battle she wrote from it. Oh, so

929
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: can I ask what he's in jail for? Um, he

930
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: was in for the possession um and eluding. So the

931
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: eluding was um kind of I guess avoiding on that.

932
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: So so how's it going now that you guys are

933
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: with each other constantly? Well, I mean it's a world

934
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: of difference going from twenty minutes uncles together. I'm telling

935
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: you that one. Um, you know, and it's we're adjusting.

936
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I there were things that I don't think

937
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: that I thought about, things that I don't think that

938
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: he thought about. But getting out of prison alone is

939
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: a huge adjustment. And then you know, so a girlfriend

940
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: and that hasn't been there, you know, and he's not

941
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: used to relationship. It's all been a huge adjustment. What

942
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: is your family thing like when you told them what

943
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: was going on? So initially, you know, I kind of

944
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: got some I don't have a huge family. Um. Actually

945
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of tragedy within my family within

946
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: a lot or five years and I'm sorry that so like,

947
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: realistically I don't have a whole lot less but the

948
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: family you know that I do have. Initially they were supportive,

949
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: but then that's just release. They kind of started to

950
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: get closer. They're like, really know how we feel about this,

951
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: and while I can understand and appreciate that, you know, well,

952
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to bed with them. Yeah,

953
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going to do me. I mean, look,

954
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, okay, it sounds it sounds bad. I mean,

955
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: I'm not one to judge. I'm not I'm please don't

956
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: think this is what we're trying to judge you. I'm

957
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: not judging. I mean you found love in a very

958
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: different way. And I mean, is he is he doing

959
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: better for himself? Is because I because I I talked

960
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: to you for two seconds and you already seemed so sweet,

961
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: and you seem like you've been through a lot, and

962
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: so I want to make sure that you're okay and

963
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: that he's not going to keep doing these bad things,

964
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: because I would love for you to have something stable

965
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: and have a great man there for you. The stability

966
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: is definitely like what what my goal for like is

967
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: currently you know, and that and I have had many,

968
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: many lengthy conversations about I guess expectations from one another

969
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: um and he honestly from I would probably say the

970
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth email, and I felt some sort of

971
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: sense of comfort from him that I never felt from

972
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: anyone else. So he, oddly enough, you know, has made

973
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: some graduates and this and that. You know, um, he

974
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: kind of opened a lot of doors for me, um,

975
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: and I think we both want to do better. You know,

976
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: life is hard in us. We make mistakes, learn from

977
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: them to move on and do better every day. So

978
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: you know where our heads has been since the beginning? Really,

979
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: did you feel any loss of intrigue once he got

980
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: out where It's kind of like, yeah, where maybe that

981
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: was part of the initial experience and attraction and infactuation

982
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: and was like, oh man, this is kind of exciting. Yeah,

983
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: it was any of that lost like once he cut out.

984
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I don't know. I don't know,

985
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: you know what everybody's vision of prisoners, but I don't

986
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: think prisoners sexual um any means I've heard he told

987
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: me a story's about taking a bird bath, and that's

988
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: especially bathing in your toilet in front of your celly,

989
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: and that just does not sound attractive to me at all.

990
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: But you know, there there's there's been stuff that I've learned,

991
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: like she doesn't necessarily like to pro laundry away, or

992
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't necessarily make it in the laundry basket

993
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: or you know, but I think that's a man, just

994
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: a man. Oh man. You know, my grandpa was the

995
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: same way. My grandpa would leave his dirty socks from

996
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: the hallway and then my grandhaway they want. I mean,

997
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: it is totally amancing. But you know, coming into the relationship,

998
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: not sending even one night together, I had been without

999
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: a shirt on. I have no idea of what he

1000
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: was going to be like, and him me even you know,

1001
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: so it's been a crazy life. I have a question

1002
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: for you for signing a lot. Well that's that's good. Um,

1003
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: the first time you guys had sex, you can technically

1004
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: have sex. I was in prison, right, Yeah, so I

1005
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: guess podical visits are things that I think it's different

1006
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: from state to state. You have to be married, um

1007
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: for thirty month time organs they'll let you do overnight. Um.

1008
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Physical much was super limited. You know. We had four visits, um,

1009
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: and I would go, you know, sit at the prison

1010
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: and visit with him for six between six and eight hours,

1011
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: and it was like you get a seventh seconds, you know, embraced,

1012
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: whether it be a hug or a kiss, and that

1013
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the visit, and then another step

1014
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: for the end, but there in between, I mean, these

1015
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: guys get gets one hand. You can hold one hand.

1016
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: If you're holding two hands, somebody comes over in the

1017
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: one hand, you're doing too much or you're like for

1018
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: too close to hit that. Wow. I mean, I guess

1019
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: some people get away with more than that, But I'm

1020
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: too big of a chicken to even attempt it because

1021
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to jail or prison. No,

1022
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: thank you? How old are you? Thank you? I'm pretty true.

1023
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: Do you want kids? Yeah? Yeah? With him? Yeah? Is

1024
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: he the same? Is he older? Younger? He is twenty nine?

1025
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: Get it. My husband's younger than mine too. We're cougars.

1026
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: I love it. Love After lock Up is on we

1027
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: TV Friday's ten nine Central, So I'm like, I'm watching

1028
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: it every Friday. Strigued. I never watched, but now I

1029
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: want to watch it. It's so weird because I mean,

1030
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: it's weird for multitude of reasons, like the way the

1031
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: show came about. I mean, it wasn't something that we

1032
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: or I for say, I guess because he couldn't really

1033
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: do it for prison. Um, I didn't go seek sing

1034
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: it out. They found us. And it's been a complete whirlwind,

1035
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: and you know, Friday night come around and I'm like,

1036
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: how am I watching myself on television? What is going on? Like?

1037
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: And some of this stuff, I'm like, oh, did I

1038
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: really say that? I'm gonna go hide now? And how

1039
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: do you deal with the negative? Judgmental people that you

1040
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: know are thinking? What the hell is wrong with this? Lady? People?

1041
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: People people have judgemental I mean, that's just your society

1042
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: is um. You know, I'm guilty of the same. Would

1043
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: I seek somebody out online to speak negatively of them

1044
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: without ever having a conversation with them? So absolutely not.

1045
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: And my thing of the negativity, Like, obviously, I know

1046
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be there. People are gonna have opinions,

1047
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: but let them have them again, I'm only confirmed with

1048
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed with it, right and really, like,

1049
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: you know, let's embrace positivity. Life of heart enough as

1050
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: it is without you know, people talking. Yeah, let's let's

1051
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: be nice and let's all get along and I help

1052
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: each other do better. Well, I mean I love that outlook.

1053
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm rooting for you guys. Are as

1054
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: long as you're happy, that's that's all that matters. And

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: uh yeah, dang, girl being happy and like being good

1056
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: to one another, and I don't you're significan another. I

1057
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: mean people want it can't be good to one another.

1058
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: And well, Caitlin, love you and best of luck to you,

1059
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: and and uh and Matt and I'm now I'm super intrigued.

1060
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Speaker 1: So I'm definitely gonna be watching Love after lock Up.

1061
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: So thank you for coming on our show. We really

1062
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's what's so fun than you guys. I

1063
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: really didn't know what to say because I was super

1064
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with because I have so many questions. Well, no,

1065
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: I just don't want to like because I didn't because

1066
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: when I when Amy first told me about this idea,

1067
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I was like, man, what the hell is wrong with her?

1068
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: She's crazy? I was saying all these things she's but

1069
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: then when she's talking she sounded so nice. Where I

1070
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: was like, I felt bad for being so judgmental, and

1071
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: then I who am I to freaking judge in anybody?

1072
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: I know? But like, are you ever scared? Like I

1073
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: wanted to be, like, do you get scared when you

1074
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: go to sleep? Like I don't know? Yeah, he had

1075
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: it was possession. It was what does that mean? It

1076
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: could be could be weapon or could Isn't that what

1077
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Went to prison for? He went to prison,

1078
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: and I would marry him, But I feel once you're in, like,

1079
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, like there's got to be some like he's

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: seen some stage. Well yeah, I mean finding someone in prison.

1081
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean again, even having the idea you you he

1082
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: she found matt imprisoned. To me, that's just so insane

1083
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: and so crazy and she's got to have the craziest

1084
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: messed up life. But then when she's talking, it's like, again,

1085
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: who the hell are we to judge? Who the hell

1086
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 1: are we? And for everyone listening right now probably things

1087
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: like that that girl is crazy. Who the hell are

1088
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: we to judge? I really have nothing to say because

1089
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, look at our situations. The relationship

1090
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: is moving past with people people that you two are

1091
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: crazy for coming on a podcast and arguing with the

1092
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: jow I know and back after infidelity, and you're crazy

1093
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: for saying with a man for six years, And I

1094
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: say people are obsessed with love after lots. Well, now

1095
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: I really like in trees watching it, like, but I

1096
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: feel bad not for judging her because she sounds so sweet.

1097
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: She has no family. I'm like, God, I I was

1098
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: that trolling. Maybe it's like kind of one of the

1099
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: like she was saying that. I don't know. So Rumbert

1100
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Speaker 1: Downey Jr. Did go to prison, jail or prison, I

1101
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: don't know the difference. Um, prison is like no joke.

1102
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: He was possession, same as this guy. So everybody does

1103
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: deserve a second chance because look at what he's done, right,

1104
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean the guy that I was married to that

1105
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: went to prison for the things that he did to me.

1106
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I remember he found a girl in prison and at

1107
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: first I was like, who ever want to date him?

1108
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: He's awful? But if again, if people change and people grow,

1109
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean clearly he didn't because he ended up you know,

1110
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: repeating patterns. But it's just you know, Steve Avery had

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Speaker 1: like multiple multiple girlfriends and wait, oh I had like

1112
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: seasons of Fonce's there's something about watch. Do you think

1113
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: it's something about the individual, whether it's being the female,

1114
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: the non con where something in their life, some kind

1115
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: of traumatic event where they need like they feel like

1116
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: they're the answer for somebody who needs help. Right, there's

1117
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: something I make up that there's something deeper in their email.

1118
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: She had never like felt the way like whatever they

1119
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,800
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1120
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,680
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1121
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Speaker 1: to feel needed essentially, you know, so maybe that validates

1122
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: certain things in somebody that makes you feel. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then it kind of you said to I thought that'd

1124
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1125
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: That sounds sexy. But no, I'm like, straight I would

1126
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: be in fear. Well, I mean Tie is like, I mean,

1127
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: he's straight out of freaking Baker Laurel. But would be

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Speaker 1: very scary. Yeah, not that he would hurt you, but

1129
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Speaker 1: like what if he was like yeah, like you know,

1130
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: I did some things, I mean, murders a whole different.

1131
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Speaker 1: But if you're a drug person with your possession drugs,

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Speaker 1: and I have been having the same argument for about

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Speaker 1: and it's for me. I feel like I'm not pretty

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Speaker 1: enough or good enough knowing that my husband is doing

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Speaker 1: that with other to a screen and I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's all. I don't think it's okay. I think it's cheating,

1201
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: and that is my stance on it. Sarah. Um, yes,

1202
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say same. Does t I watch porn? No?

1203
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Speaker 1: Have you google searched his sister in the beginning? He

1204
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: did in the beginning. No, I mean, like, I listen,

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Speaker 1: let's let me make it very clear. The only thing

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Speaker 1: I'm searching for right now is one thing and one

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1209
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1210
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1211
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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for anything other than like Harry Winston

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Speaker 1: dot com. Michael, Yeah, I mean what Janna said, it

1214
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Speaker 1: depends on your marriage. Um, if it works in yours, fine,

1215
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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then talk to him about it. But

1216
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Speaker 1: I mean the fact that she said he wanted sex

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, if she's not gonna give

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Speaker 1: it looks like she's trying now, So I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. This is a discussion. You gotta find out

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Speaker 1: what works for you. It doesn't bother me at all,

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Speaker 1: because did you guys read fifty Shades of Gray? But

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Speaker 1: that's like the girl version of that. Yeah, so you're

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Speaker 1: kind of fine, and I don't know, maybe you watch

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Speaker 1: Who cares? So anonymous and it bothers some, it doesn't

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