1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime podcasts. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: And we have some foundational stories coming. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 3: Up for you. 5 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: But the thing is, this foundation needs a little support 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from these sponsors. So stick around two minutes. We'll get 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: into the episode. 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 4: My mom abandoned me as a baby. Now my new 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 4: family betrayed me. 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 3: Throw all the families away for. 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 4: A bit of context, This all happened in the year 12 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty one. Me female twenty three, My ex 13 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 4: best friend, also the same age and female. Let's call 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: her Gina. Her little sister, let's call her Ginny twenty one. 15 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: Their brother Tim fifteen, their mom Susan forty five, and 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 4: their dad Chad forty seven. So they're all living under 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: the same roof at my family's house. How did this happen, 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: you ask, Well, we're gonna find out. By the way, 19 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: this comes from user baby Cakes ninety eight on the 20 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 4: Charlotte Dobray YouTube stumbre ad it and if you want 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: to submit your own stories, what are the RM flash 22 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: Okay story Time stumbred it. 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: I am an only child. 24 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 4: My mom went to work overseas when I was just 25 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: two years old. 26 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: And my dad passed away when I was well. 27 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: I grew up with my grandmother who loved me dearly, 28 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: and an uncle who treated me as his own daughter. 29 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: My uncle also worked overseas. When I turned ten years old, 30 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 4: when my dad passed away, I was left with my grandmother. 31 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: My mom was financially present for me and always made 32 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: life easier for me, as she is still providing everything 33 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: that I needed financially. When I reached the age of eighteen, 34 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: my grandmother was asked to live with my aunt, who 35 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: was living in another city, which was about an hour 36 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: and forty five minutes away on a plane. She was 37 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: asked to stay there for two years and I couldn't 38 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: come with her as I'm still in college. I told 39 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: her I could survive alone now since I was eighteen. 40 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 4: My grandmother, being the loving grandmother that she is, does 41 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: not want me to be alone in our house, as 42 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: she knows it gets lonely there. 43 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: Our home is not that big. 44 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: It is a bungalow house with four bedrooms and is 45 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: all made out of wood. To assure my grandma that 46 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: I will be okay, I asked her if it's okay 47 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: that my best friend Gina and her sister Jinny stayed 48 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: with me at our house. Since we practically know each 49 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: other since elementary school and have stayed as friends until college. 50 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: My grandma agreed, as she trusted Gina and their entire family, 51 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: was decided that Gina and Genny will stay with me 52 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: at our house. 53 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: The first few months were okay. 54 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: We were happy doing teenager stuff and of course enjoying 55 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: the perks of living alone. We stayed up late, talked 56 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: about boys and girls as I am by, and basically 57 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: just did what teenagers would do. After a few months 58 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: of staying together, I have noticed that their mom has 59 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: already been taking baths in our house. I didn't mind, 60 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: as she was also like a third mom to me. However, 61 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: their dad also did the same, and their little brother 62 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: coming to our house to use our comfort room. For 63 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: additional context, they don't have their own house. They were 64 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: living with their grandparents too, and although the house is 65 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: bigger than ours, they have two families living there, thus 66 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: their home is very crowded. They're a family of five 67 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: plus their other family members, which is a family of four, 68 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: their aunt and their grandma, so a total of eleven 69 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: people live at their house and they only have one 70 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: comfort room, so I really did not mind the subtle changes. 71 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: So a few more months passed and they were punted 72 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: out of that house as their grandma and their mom 73 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: had a fight due to the cleanliness of the house. 74 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: Their mom told me that their grandma was asking her 75 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: to clean the entire house, even if it's not their mess, 76 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: and she got fed up. So they had an argument, 77 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: leading to them being punted out and they have nowhere 78 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: to go. So me, being the naive girl who has 79 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: been with this family for almost all my life, I 80 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: called my grandma and asked if they could stay at 81 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: our house temporarily, as they have nowhere to go and 82 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: we have three extra rooms. My grandma reluctantly agreed, but 83 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: we called my uncle first to ask, and my uncle 84 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: strongly disagreed, but I pleaded with him, me being the 85 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: only niece. 86 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: He agreed. 87 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: This family moved in with me at my own house. 88 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: The first few months were great. They didn't treat me differently. 89 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: They treated me like family, feeding me their food, giving 90 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: me what they had, and even including me in their 91 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: family outing. However, this temporary stay turned into years. At 92 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: this point, they've been staying at our house for two years. 93 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: The house that I once maintained with cleanliness was now 94 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: all trashed, with soiled clothes everywhere, reeking stench of dog 95 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: poop and pea as they had dogs, and they never 96 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: clean cigarette butts of their dad and brother well over 97 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: the place. 98 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: They never washed the bed sheets and pillowcases. 99 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so Grandma the last house. 100 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Was right, Yeah, it was them. 101 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: My grandma got home and saw the state of our house, 102 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: and obviously she got angry, and at first they cleaned, 103 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: but then they went back to their old habits. A 104 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: week later, my grandma had to go back to my 105 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: aunt's place as they didn't have anyone to watch their house. 106 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: They went out of the country for my older cousin's wedding, 107 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: so my grandma left again. I tried to endure it. 108 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: I never leave my room when I'm at home. At 109 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: this point, the tidiest place at our house was only 110 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: my room. The living room, the kitchen, and the bathroom 111 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: was filthy, dirty, soiled underwears and sanitary baths left in 112 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: the bathroom. I had to clean them, as they never did. 113 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: I was enduring this for three years now at this point, 114 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: and I bottled up my anger as I did care 115 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: for this family, and I didn't want to punt them out. 116 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: They don't have anywhere. 117 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Else to go. 118 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: After three years, you could have undoubtedly figure out somewhere 119 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: else to go. Yes, they paid for the electricity, but 120 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: just the electricity. They never paid rent. Water here is 121 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: also free, so they just paid the electricity. We have 122 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: fresh w from the mountains, so we don't really have 123 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: a water bill. Two more years past, it is now 124 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: five years. At this point, a neighbor told me that 125 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: they were spreading lies and telling their guests that I 126 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: was the one they took in and my house was theirs. Basically, 127 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: they told people that they let me live at my 128 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: own home for free because I don't have parents. The neighbor, 129 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: being there since I was born, reacted and told the 130 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: guests that it wasn't true and that this is my 131 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: house and they were the ones living here for free. 132 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: Another neighbor came up to me and told me that 133 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: they were spreading news to the other neighbors that they 134 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: were feeding me and that I was abandoned by my family. 135 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: I mean, I was alone, but I wasn't abandoned. I 136 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: buy my own food. I had enough allowance for me 137 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: to buy my own food and groceries each month. After 138 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 4: that came out, I was hurt. These were the people 139 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: I trusted and cared for the most, and yet they 140 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: did this to me. At this point, I was getting 141 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: depressed as I had no one to talk. 142 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: To about this. 143 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: Luckily, my best friend asked me to go to their 144 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: place yeah to talk as he feels. 145 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: Like something is not right with me. 146 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: He stated that I was not the usual bubbly and 147 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: energetic person that he knows anymore. Then and there, I 148 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: let it all out. I cried for hours and my 149 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: best friend consoled me for hours. Now that someone knows 150 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: what I'm going through, my best friend has offered to 151 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 4: stay with me there. I agreed, and we again asked 152 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: my grandma and uncle for permission, and they both agreed 153 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: as they know this best friend. 154 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Before my best friend could move in, my ex. 155 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: Bff's dad had bought a flat screen TV, which I 156 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: didn't think was conventional, knowing that the funds they used 157 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 4: to buy that TV were supposed to be educational aid funds. 158 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: That TV screen had broken when I arrived. I never 159 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: touched this TV, as I do not touch their things, 160 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 4: and I was at my best friend's house when this happened, 161 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: but they somehow blamed me for that TV being damaged. 162 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: They never told that to me straight to my face, 163 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: but multiple neighbors came to me and told me that 164 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: they were saying that I destroyed their TV. I was 165 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: shocked and my neighbors were shocked, as I never go 166 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: out of my room when I'm in the house, with 167 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: the exception of going to the bathroom and cooking, but 168 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: most of the time I'm just inside my room. I 169 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: never confronted them. The day came and my best friend 170 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: moved in with me. We shared my room as my 171 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: room had two beds. He was using the other bed 172 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: when he arrived. Their dad was mad. He was screaming 173 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: that I never asked for his permission, which is crazy 174 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 4: because it's not his house. 175 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 5: At what point in their mind did they like get 176 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 5: this delusion that they have owned this house the whole 177 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: time and that they are the ones doing like a 178 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: good deed for someone. 179 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to find where that line was, take 180 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: a time machine back to that moment and immediately get 181 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: them out of the house. Mind you, I had already 182 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: asked permission from my grandma and uncle, you know, the 183 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: people who actually own the house. I told him that 184 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: my grandma and uncle knew, so he never brought it 185 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: up again, but when I was at work. I was 186 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: working at this point and have graduated college. Since my 187 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: best friend called me and he was crying. He said 188 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: that their dad threatened him because he was worried. I 189 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: rushed home, saw my best friend at my neighbor's house 190 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: and they let him nap there while waiting for me. 191 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: This was the time I decided that I couldn't take 192 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: it anymore. I went to our local government hall. In 193 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: my country, they are called a barangay hall and are 194 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: elected barangay captain, kind of like an HOA president was 195 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: my uncle's closest friend and has known me since the 196 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: day that I was born. Pretty good guy to have 197 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: on your side in this situation. I told him everything 198 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: that happened, and I was crying. He also got worried, 199 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: as I'm the type of person that won't make a 200 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: fuss about anything unless it's extreme. He called the entire 201 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: family of my ex best friend into the barangay hall 202 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: and talked. Please know that barangay captains are powerful in 203 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: our country. They are tied with the mayors in our 204 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: city's government body. The barangay captain asked me what I 205 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: want to do. I asked if they could leave. They agreed, 206 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: but asked for a two month extension. 207 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: I said no. I said, I want them out by 208 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: the end of the week. 209 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, And they had no choice and got 210 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: out of the house. As our conversation has left a 211 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: record at our place, and neighbors are on my side. 212 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: Last I heard they rented a place near a bridge 213 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: that gets flooded every time it rains, and some neighbors 214 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: were telling me that they were talking crap about me 215 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: and how ungrateful of a brat I am. 216 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: After they took me in as their own child. 217 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 6: They didn't take you in. 218 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: It's the opposite of that the child. 219 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: The child took the family in. I have never felt that. 220 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: I mean, they kind of did treat me like their 221 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: own child at first, but after five years, I. 222 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Never felt that. 223 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: They kind of treated me like I was a bird 224 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: to be around in my own house. And that's why 225 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: I never come out of my room when I am home. Now, 226 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: am I the a hole for punting them out? Gonna 227 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: hit you with being Nope, no big nope, nope and 228 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: good job. 229 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: I hope that you find much more peace. 230 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 5: My in laws are being shady with the house they're 231 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: renting us. 232 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to come into the light. 233 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: So back in October of last year, we started renting 234 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: a mobile home from my husband's grandmother and her son 235 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: uncle in law manages. 236 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: The property because she lives far away and is old. 237 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: Around late January, we were told rent would increase by 238 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: four hundred due to gmail not being able to get 239 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: a renter in her other property, and my husband said 240 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: he could. They agreed to split it and he had 241 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 5: to pay two hundred on top of the agreed amount. 242 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: Our lease says nothing about length of time, so it's 243 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: not illegal, just unfortunate. By the way, this comes from 244 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 5: Decent Sky, and if you want to submit your own stories, 245 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 5: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. After that, 246 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 5: we decided we wanted to see about buying our own 247 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 5: house since we have kids and we want something permanent. 248 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: Shortly after this, we were. 249 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: Told that there was a person coming by to take pictures, but. 250 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: That they were for a dealer who buys property. 251 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: Suddenly I found full pictures of our house with all 252 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 5: our belongings on homes realtor Zillow, et cetera. I called 253 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: her after this and stated I didn't feel comfortable and 254 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: that the pictures being put online were not part of 255 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: what we were told. She said it was implied when 256 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: she stated she was listing it. I voiced my concerns 257 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 5: and cleared up the misunderstanding that just because we're looking 258 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: at houses, we aren't approved by a lender yet and 259 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: it will take time. She stated to husband and I 260 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 5: separately in two different phone calls, that she would take 261 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: it off the market to make it easier since it 262 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: wasn't supposed to be listed online anyway, something to do 263 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 5: with it being on mobile home park Land and not 264 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: its own land. Two weeks later, the day after both 265 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: my husband and I just got out of the hospital 266 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: with neurovirus, we were given four hour notice that there 267 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 5: would be a showing. I tried to say no, but 268 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: apparently there was absolutely no way to cancel and uncle 269 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: in law was just doing his job. So I scrubbed 270 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: the whole house so no one would get sick, as 271 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: I had a fever and we have a one year old. 272 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 5: Not sure where to put this in the timeline, but 273 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: the day before, which is the day that I got 274 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,239 Speaker 5: home from the hospital, as well as our daughter's first birthday. 275 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 5: G MIL complained about us getting a hamster, stated the 276 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 5: lease aid no pets, and was generally upset. Husband took 277 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: a picture of the text where her and I spoke 278 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: about getting something other than a fish because the kids 279 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 5: were asking for such, and she said her issue was 280 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 5: with cats and dogs and said what the cat is 281 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 5: fine as long as it didn't cause damage. Her husband 282 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 5: pointed out that they had also agreed on two hundred 283 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 5: less than the rent he was paying currently. She backed 284 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: down after that and lowered the rent back down, but 285 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: never asked about the hamster after that. After one showing, 286 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 5: we were irked, but didn't say anything. A week after that, 287 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: showing two was scheduled with seven hour notice. I texted 288 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: Gmail and asked why she told us she was taking 289 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 5: it off the market if she didn't intend to, As 290 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: well as stating that the lack of communication was not okay. 291 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: She started off with, excuse me, but I have a 292 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: sister in the hospital in a life threatening situation. Not 293 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 5: to take away from it, but her sister and her 294 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: aren't close and the situation was a leg imputation caused 295 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,359 Speaker 5: by refusing to monitor diabetes, which is awful. 296 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: But not an excuse to lie. 297 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: I said I was sorry about her sister, but that 298 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 5: this is an issue that needs to be addressed, and 299 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,239 Speaker 5: that lying and giving us extremely short notice wasn't acceptable. 300 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 5: I'm assuming she called uncle in law after this, because 301 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 5: she didn't respond, but he called my husband stating that 302 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 5: her sister was sick and that we needed to talk 303 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 5: to him going forward. Shortly after the showing was canceled. 304 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: The very next day, two days ago as of me 305 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: writing this, we got a letter stating there was a 306 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: buyer and that we had until May fourteenth to be out, 307 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 5: as well as a list of all that needed to 308 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: be done before moving out, cleaning, patching holes left by shelves, 309 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: et cetera. Apparently, even though there is a buyer, they're 310 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 5: showing it again tomorrow. Thankfully, we were given significantly. 311 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: More notice this time. 312 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: I tried all day today to figure out what was 313 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: going on, but uncle in law kept stating it wasn't 314 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: our business to know what was. 315 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: Going on with the trailer when we weren't asking for that. 316 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: I stated why they were lying and going behind our backs, 317 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 5: and he kept saying the same exact thing. 318 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: I didn't lie to you. I don't know what my 319 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: mother said, so I can't answer. 320 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: I'm not giving you buyer information, which again was never 321 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: remotely asked for. My husband asked why there was another 322 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: showing if it was under contract, which is pretty simple 323 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 5: to answer because it's mainly we want to back up 324 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 5: if the first buyer falls through. He stated he wanted 325 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: to call, which I read because I wanted everything to 326 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: be clear and easily available to refer back to. 327 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: This is the. 328 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: Abbreviated version of After that, Uncle and law says, I'm 329 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: only answering questions. There's nothing to refer back to me. 330 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 5: I have already been lied to over the phone and 331 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: would like everything in writing. Uncle in law, well, I'm 332 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: not texting anymore me. Okay, that's fine. You're not going 333 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: to be open with me, so there's no point in 334 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: asking anymore. I'll stop asking, Uncle in law, I am open. 335 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Stop hiding behind your walls and phone and talk to 336 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: me face to face, direct quote. 337 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: Stop hiding behind those walls that you live in that 338 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: I'm trying to sell out from under you me. 339 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: I have a baby. I'm not going over there to 340 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: argue and bicker. I will stop the conversation since it's 341 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: going nowhere. I texted uncle in law's wife and asked 342 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: her if she knew why they were acting like this. 343 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: She had no idea and she had been really busy 344 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: with work and appointments. I apologized for being out of 345 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: the blue, and I said I was sorry for not 346 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 5: talking to her more recently, but that I was really 347 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: upset at their grandmother in law's and uncle in law's 348 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: bus I sent the screenshot of the above conversation minus 349 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 5: my last reply because I hadn't made it yet, and 350 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: said this crap is scary. Uncle in law wrote a 351 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 5: long paragraph three hours later about how Tea his wife 352 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: mentioned above, wasn't involved and doesn't know anything about the house, 353 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: never asked her about it, which I agree, like don't 354 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: bring Tea into. 355 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: Days, not about the house. This is like, why are 356 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: these people doing this to us? 357 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: Why is the. 358 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: Uncle in law and GMAIL doing this to us? That's 359 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: all Opie wants to know. 360 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: How he's not obligated to share business about the house 361 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: and listed a bunch of questions that were never even 362 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 5: hinted at, like the price of the house and moving it. 363 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: He stated he's not sure how he's scary and going 364 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: forward that I can no longer talk to Tea. My 365 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: response was short and included I can talk to anyone 366 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: I please. These questions were never asked and you know that, 367 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 5: and that if he no longer wishes to text, he 368 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 5: can email us and provided the emails of me and 369 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: my husband. Husband is just as confused as I am 370 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: and things. It's retaliation for us saying we were looking 371 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: for a house after rent was righted. This isn't normal 372 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: behavior from them, but we have never been in a 373 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: business relationship with either of them. The only complaint made 374 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 5: to us about anything was the hamster, which she stated 375 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: that it was okay and said, I guess the kids 376 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: would like something they could pet and go with what 377 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 5: the kids would like. This was in text. No complaints 378 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: made about the cleanliness either. Actually, the opposite husband has 379 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: paid rent on time and the full amount that was asked, 380 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: even after it was raised. We have three kids, so yeah, 381 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 5: it gets messy and loud, but no damage other than 382 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: some drywall holes in one bathroom and the laundry room 383 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: where a shelf fell. I'm bad at putting them up, 384 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: So about a ten dollars patch in paint to fix, 385 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: which we already stated we'd do, and there was still 386 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: nothing said about it being an issue. We're both just 387 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: extremely confused. They won't say anything about it, no matter 388 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: what uncle in law stated, no one is acting any 389 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: certain way. 390 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm at a loss. 391 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: Husband and I don't care much about the house, as 392 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: we already planned on moving early with everything else they 393 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 5: had done up to this point, but the lying, hiding, 394 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: and denial is upsetting, to say the least. The wrong 395 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: here is this all normal? And I'm just sensitive to it. 396 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: I've dealt with landlords, but not for a single rental house. 397 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: Like this where it could be sold. 398 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 5: I asked for communication and am left with significantly more 399 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 5: questions than answers. I don't want to call because it's 400 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 5: easier to manipulate and cut people off, especially when tension 401 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: is high, so I know it wouldn't it be a 402 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 5: good idea. I cry super easily, so talking face to 403 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: face also is an ideal, and I took his statement 404 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 5: as highly aggressive and I don't. 405 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: Tolerate it well at all. 406 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 5: This is okay, this is back to my thing, though 407 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 5: I also cry very easily in conversations that are tense, 408 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 5: like that, but sometimes you have to just have that 409 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: conversation in person because one it might not be as 410 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 5: tense as you think because tone can be taken wrong. 411 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: In texts, you'll get all your answers, questions a little. 412 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: You're gonna cry, it's gonna really suck. But it's a 413 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: conversation that you have to have and it's. 414 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: Gonna really suck. 415 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: But record it if you want to be able to 416 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 5: play back to it. Go in with a list if 417 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 5: you like, get really overwhelmed with that. Like sometimes I'll 418 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: write things down that. 419 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: I need to say. 420 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: But I think clearly communication via text is not working 421 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: for you, and you refuse to call, well. 422 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: No, you gotta think one of them. 423 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 5: I think this is the thing because he's likeall and 424 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: she's like text, just go. 425 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: Just just because you're gonna cry, and like it's gonna 426 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: be hard and you don't like conversation, doesn't mean you 427 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: shouldn't do confrontation. Yeah, I think this situation, if you 428 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: know the people that you need to sort of weigh 429 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: against are gonna straight up put hanging fifty on you 430 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: and slam dunk all over you the whole conversation, maybe 431 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: you should just formulate a text. 432 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: I want to communicate and I don't think asking for 433 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: it and writing is so difficult. 434 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: Am I overthinking this? And we have an update. 435 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 5: Uncle in law was showing the house today, and by showing, 436 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: he apparently meant coming in with tea and taking pictures. 437 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: I'm not sure who to trust, and I'm trying to 438 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: figure out how to deny entry until the move out date. 439 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: We have another update. 440 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 5: I have them on my security camera with no other 441 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: people showing, complaining about our led striplights. 442 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: Renter friendly and uncle in law was. 443 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 5: Taking pictures all over like inside the oven, laundry room, 444 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: et cetera. Has been called it out and got no response, 445 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: so we both agree he knows he's in the wrong. 446 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: Even worse is the fact that there was nothing to 447 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: lie about. He's allowed to ask for an inspection and 448 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: take pictures for record keeping, and yet decided to lie. 449 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: We're trying to get out asap. Thank you guys for 450 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 5: reassuring me that this isn't something normal and isn't okay. 451 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: That's the end of that story. 452 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. It wasn't even like a should 453 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: I move. 454 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 4: It's like the whole time they're planning on moving They're 455 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: just like, is this normal? 456 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 5: The whole time they're planning on moving, and they were like, 457 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: I'm just mad that I'm not getting answers. 458 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: Okay, move is the way my grandma in law and 459 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: uncle in law are moving normal? 460 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: Yes, they just move. 461 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: They're literally moving around like an interpretive art piece. That 462 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: is a abnormal, abnormal movement. Wow, that's the end. 463 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 464 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 2: back to the story. So but here's a quick three 465 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: minute break from as for more sponsors. 466 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 7: See, my fiance is ashamed of my sister, so I'm 467 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 7: reconsidering marrying him. 468 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: If you don't like my sister, you're out. 469 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 7: I would like to know if I'm being over dramatic 470 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 7: or overreacting. 471 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 6: I'm twenty nine years old. My fiance is also twenty nine. 472 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 7: We've known each other since twenty fifteen because he attends 473 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 7: the same religious church as me. We started dating in 474 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: twenty twenty two as he and he proposed to me 475 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 7: in February of this year. We have plans to get 476 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 7: married in October. He's an only child and I have 477 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 7: one little sister who has some special needs. With me 478 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 7: being an only sibling to my little sister, who is nineteen. 479 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from Mermaid for Live ninety 480 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 7: six and if you want to submit your own stories, 481 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 7: go to the r slash Okay storytime sepreddit. So if 482 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 7: something were to happen to my parents and when they 483 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 7: can no longer care for her, she'll be living with me. 484 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 7: She's not severely disabled. She has down syndrome and a 485 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 7: low IQ. She's very independent though she can walk, talk, eat, shop, 486 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: do a lot of skills on her own with minimal assistance. 487 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 7: She's just very vulnerable and isn't aware of safety. My 488 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 7: fiance is fully aware of the circumstances regarding our future 489 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 7: and has accepted her living with us. It becomes a 490 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 7: topic a lot since we're also considering having our own kids. 491 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 7: So not all of the time, but sometimes when my 492 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 7: fiance and I go out, I include my sister. I 493 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 7: do respite for my sister, and I get paid to 494 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 7: do respite for her. Again, my fiance has always been 495 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 7: acceptable with me including her when we hang out. We 496 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 7: went out yesterday and I included my sister. My whole 497 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: night felt ruined though because of him. We went out 498 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 7: to eat and my sister was trying to order, but 499 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 7: he kept rushing her when she was stuttering a bit. 500 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 7: I didn't make a scene and kept silent due to 501 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 7: not wanting to make a scene. 502 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: We went to the mall. 503 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 7: Next to go a shop in my sister's and i's 504 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: favorite store. My fiance stayed out of the store, which 505 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 7: was fine because this store is aimed towards women. When 506 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 7: we got done with shopping, my little sister was showing 507 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 7: him what she got and he didn't say anything and 508 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 7: didn't even show any interest. I confronted him a bit, 509 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 7: and he made a rude remark, saying, God forbid me 510 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: not caring about your sister's fragrances. Our last stop was Target, 511 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 7: and I had to get some things and I had 512 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 7: my sister help with scanning things. He seemed annoyed and 513 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 7: told me that she needs to speed things up because. 514 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: This is awkward. What did you rushing off to? Yeah? 515 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 7: What what do you have to do with all these 516 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 7: a few seconds? 517 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Mind you. 518 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 7: There wasn't even a line and multiple self checkouts were open. 519 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 7: When he drops me off at home yesterday, I didn't 520 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 7: even say anything. As much as I want us to 521 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 7: grow together, I can't be with someone who belittles my sister. 522 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 7: Do I have a right to be upset? And there 523 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: are some comments, but what are your comments? Sofia absolutely totally. 524 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 8: Like this is you have already said that in the 525 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 8: case that something happens, in the event that something happens 526 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 8: to your parents, you are going to be taking care 527 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 8: of your sister. So this isn't just like, oh, yeah, 528 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 8: she's my sister, you have to be around her on holidays. 529 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 8: This is someone you might you know, be taking care 530 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 8: of yeah, forever exactly. 531 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 6: And like, if you guys are talking about having kids. 532 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 8: There is a high likelihood that one of your kids 533 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 8: might have DOWNSI. 534 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, and just in general needs so much patience also, 535 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 7: and he is clearly not having any patience. No, is 536 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: it going to be embarrassing for your kids to like, 537 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 7: I don't know, not know how to walk? Yeah, but 538 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 7: everyone else will undertand because they're freaking kids. 539 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: She's just like the two year old doesn't know how 540 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 8: to talk, right, so embarrassed figure it out? 541 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 6: Gosh. But there are some comments. 542 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 7: A budget discussion five six eight says I'm confused about 543 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 7: what was awkward to target her in general her speed 544 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 7: while checking items or a lack thereof. Either way, I'd 545 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 7: be offended and feel protective of her because I can't 546 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 7: see his perspective about either being valid. I'm so sorry 547 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 7: he was mean to you and towards her. The term 548 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 7: red flag exists for this reason. Continue the engagement, but 549 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 7: be very aware of what and how he says things. 550 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 7: If you continue to see red flags, make the hard 551 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 7: choice sooner than later. Opie says, I was having her 552 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 7: scan items because it's a goal that she works on 553 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 7: since she gets state services for her intellectual disability. I 554 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 7: had a full card and it was taking a little 555 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 7: longer than usual to finish because she would accidentally scan 556 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 7: something twice, so the staff was kind of hanging close 557 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 7: around us in case we needed assistance. I think he 558 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 7: low key feels embarrassed just by her presence and feels 559 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 7: like we're being stared at. Bright Bag two nine three says, 560 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 7: you obviously don't have to if you don't want, but 561 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 7: I'm very curious to know what this loser of a 562 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 7: man looks like. A lot of losers who talk crap 563 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 7: are insecure and below average looking. Opie says, it'll be 564 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 7: breaking the rules by post him, but I don't mind 565 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: sending you. 566 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: A picture of him through pm on here. 567 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 3: Confusable fraggle, says Opie. 568 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 7: I think things are a bit more worrisome than you 569 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 7: are letting yourself believe. He is treating your sister as 570 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 7: a nuisance. He is not low key embarrassed. He is 571 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 7: outright ashamed to be seen in public with your sister. 572 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 7: His behavior is rude and belittling and dismissive. I currently 573 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 7: work in retail and have to oversee the self check 574 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 7: machines often if he is getting upset because a person 575 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 7: learning to use the machine is slower than a person 576 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 7: who already knows he lacks both patience and empathy. I've 577 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 7: watched many people come through those machines. Many times we 578 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 7: have to fix an accidentally doubled item, or a barcode that. 579 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: Rings in wrong, or what have you. 580 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 7: The way people react in those situations is very telling. 581 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 7: It's a tiny little stress moment in their day, but 582 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 7: it shows their character. Your fiance is currently showing very 583 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 7: poor character. If he has this poor of an attitude 584 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 7: about a small oops like these, he will have a 585 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 7: much worse attitude about bigger problems. Of course, there are 586 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 7: always folks who were already having a bad day and 587 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 7: thus react out of proportion. But all you did was 588 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 7: take your sister for an outing together. That shouldn't be 589 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 7: a bad day for a decent human. This requires a 590 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 7: very in depth conversation, the very least you need to 591 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 7: get to the bottom of what he actually thinks and 592 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 7: believes about you, your sister, and your family. His mother's 593 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 7: comment about the gene pool shows that he has been 594 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 7: taught from the cradle to devalue anyone with a handicap 595 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 7: of any cut. I don't think we got that comment 596 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 7: in there, ah, but I'm very curious about what that 597 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 7: is and that where was that? 598 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, the gene pool, that sounds bad. 599 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: That definitely does. 600 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 8: I feel like the mom was probably making a comment 601 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 8: about them ivan kids. 602 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: Then yeah, probably. 603 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 7: I apologize for not having a better word than handicapped 604 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 7: to describe the mindset problem. If he is actively working 605 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 7: to undo that conditioning, that is good, but he obviously 606 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 7: has a very long way to go. If he is 607 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 7: trying to just get by into the wedding, his mask 608 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 7: is slipping badly. Either way, your sister does not deserve 609 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: to be treated as his social dues for being a 610 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 7: good guy. She is a human with her own dignity 611 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 7: and deserves to be treated as such. I hope you 612 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 7: can get to the bottom of this quickly. Op, you 613 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 7: are not overreacting at all. I'm afraid you are likely 614 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 7: underreacting to the problem in front of you. Best of Logop, 615 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: may you find a nice shiny spine and use it 616 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 7: for and use it well for your own benefit and 617 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 7: then for others Hugs if you want them, and then 618 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 7: Alison C. Miller says, I can empathize with both of 619 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 7: you here. I had a niece with special needs and 620 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 7: it can be a lot, so I can't blame anyone 621 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 7: for not being ready to have that in their life. 622 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 7: But it's important for him to respectfully say I'm sorry, 623 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 7: I'm not ready for that, instead of flying to you 624 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 7: to keep his romantic access. To put it overly politely, 625 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 7: this is a huge red flag. Try to work it 626 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 7: out with him if you want, but for the sake 627 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 7: of the kids it don't have this man's kids. Being 628 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 7: a parent requires way more patient than he's shown he's 629 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 7: capable of. And you just know if one of them 630 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 7: is disabled, he'll blame you and your family's genes. 631 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: Yikes. 632 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, true, absolutely. 633 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: Helicopter No. 634 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: Forty one sixty six says it nor One thing to 635 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 7: keep in mind, aside from how he treats her sister, 636 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 7: is that in marriage, there will be times when you 637 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 7: will need him to be your caregiver. It could be 638 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: after the birth of a child that took an unexpected turn, 639 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 7: surgery where you can't even bathe without assistance. If he 640 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 7: treats her sister the way he does, ask yourself if 641 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 7: he would treat you the same way when he is 642 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 7: supposed to care for you, I would have an honest 643 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: conversation with him about your expectations in this marriage and 644 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 7: as if this is something he is capable of hope. 645 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 7: He responds, his mother actually asked my parents about our 646 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 7: gene pool when we went out with his parents one time. 647 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 7: I think this is our information, ros yike gross but 648 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 7: said afterwards she would love her grandchild regardless. 649 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: Sorry she brought up. 650 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 6: What's the gene pool? 651 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: And then says, oh, but about allah, I mean, whatever 652 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: it is, I'll love my grandchild. 653 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 6: Why did you say it like that? 654 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 7: Like, why even bring it up? But I would bring 655 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: it up, So I just let that one go. So overall, 656 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 7: judgment is gnaw the ale, and there is an update from 657 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 7: only five days later. Huh oh, do you have any 658 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 7: comments before we move on? 659 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 8: Well, I think that you should have a very frank 660 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 8: conversation with your partner and say, one, my sister's not 661 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 8: going anywhere, so you need to learn how to treat 662 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 8: her properly and kindly and respectfully, right, because. 663 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: She's still she's still an adult, and she just. 664 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: Still deserves respect. Yeah, and kindness. Well, I think she's 665 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 8: she's nineteen to nineteen. Okay, so she's nineteen, she's still 666 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 8: an adult. Treaty respectfully. Yeah, she's not going anywhere. And 667 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 8: and then again, secondly, are you going to be like 668 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 8: you know that this runs in my family. There is 669 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 8: a possibility that my child or child might be born 670 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 8: with a disability. 671 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: So are you up for that? 672 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 6: Because if you're not, then let's cut it off here. 673 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 8: If you are not one hundred percent ready for your 674 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 8: child to be born with something like a mental disability 675 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 8: of physical disability, then you're not ready to be. 676 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: A parent with me exactly. There is an update. 677 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 7: So after posting about it, reading most of the comments, 678 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 7: and doing some deep thinking, I've. 679 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 6: Decided to cut ties with him last Sunday, whoa, Whoa. 680 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 7: It was one of the most hardest things that I've 681 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 7: had to do because we've had our future planned out 682 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 7: and he was my first relationship. 683 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 684 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 7: Family will always come first with me, and I'm not 685 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 7: going to be with someone who is an ableist, especially 686 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 7: when him and I can end up with a disabled 687 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: child someday, because muscular dystropee does run my family. As 688 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 7: far as my future, I'm a pediatric registered nurse, so 689 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 7: I'm going to keep focusing on my career. I have 690 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 7: a savings account set up, so I'm planning on applying 691 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 7: for an apartment very soon. I'm also going on a 692 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 7: Behemian cruise in October that was supposed to be our honeymoon, 693 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 7: but I'll be going with my best friend instead, so 694 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 7: I'm ecstatic for that. I'm going to keep living my 695 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 7: life as best I can and not dwell over a 696 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 7: relationship that obviously wasn't meant to be. For the few 697 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 7: people who made comments such as I'm just going to 698 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 7: end up single because no one wants the package that 699 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 7: I come with. 700 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: That's terrible. 701 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 7: Just know that I see the ableism in you, and 702 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 7: you might want to humble yourselves, because anyone can become 703 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 7: disabled respectfully. 704 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: But do you have any final thoughts. 705 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 8: I feel like that it does feel maybe just in 706 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 8: the way that's been written, it does feel very like quick. 707 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: But I do think it is the right decision. 708 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: In the long term. 709 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, it doesn't seem like he he's up for this 710 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 8: kind of lifetime. Doesn't seem like he wants her sister around. 711 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 8: I fear that he might like isolate her further from 712 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 8: her sister in the long run. 713 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 714 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: But we do have a little bit more to the story. 715 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 7: So for some comments, startust stuffing says, good for you. 716 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 7: My daughter is autistic and requires a lot of patience 717 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 7: and understanding. I'd lose my mind if someone I knew 718 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 7: treated her badly because of her extra needs. So how 719 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 7: did he take it? I'm really curious to know and 720 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 7: hope he response. It went pretty sour, but I expected 721 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 7: it because he has a pretty short temper. Another red flag. 722 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 6: Yeah that's not good. 723 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, which is crazy to admit because we are both 724 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 7: part of the LDS church. 725 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: But a little context. 726 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 7: So before officially breaking up on Saturday, we went out 727 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 7: because I really wanted to get down to the root 728 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: of the problem on why he was so disgusted by 729 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 7: my sister. He started gaslighting me and making me feel 730 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 7: like it was meat issue. That's when I knew that 731 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 7: it wasn't going to work. And on Sunday I had 732 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 7: him come over to my house and I told him 733 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 7: that we're done. He started crying and apologizing, and he 734 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 7: turned into a hothead and demanded the ring back and 735 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 7: everything that I owned that he bought for me. Crazy right, 736 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 7: mind you. It has happened at my parents' house where 737 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 7: I'm currently living. They were already aware of his behavior, 738 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 7: and when he demanded everything back and refused to leave 739 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 7: my bedroom, I just texted my mom for help because 740 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 7: it was the first time that he showed genuine rage 741 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 7: at me and I didn't want to get physically hurt. 742 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 7: My dad, who was a retired cop, came up and 743 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 7: told him to leave. Yeah, when your safety comes into play, 744 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 7: this is not someone that you should be with. 745 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, box. 746 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 7: Finn says it. Well, to be fair, if he proposed 747 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: to you, you should give him back his ring. Hope, 748 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 7: he says, the ring I absolutely did give back, but 749 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 7: clothes that I own and I've worn multiple times, car keys, 750 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 7: that he had insisted to replace when I lost mine 751 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 7: in the past, and other petty things like that, I 752 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 7: refuse to just give back, okay. Research fifty six eighty 753 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 7: six says, totally fair. Returning the ring shows respect, but 754 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 7: keeping personal items you've used and we're gifted makes sense. 755 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 7: Not everything needs to be handed back out of spite. 756 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 7: And that is the end of that story. 757 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: I think you made the absolutely right choice. 758 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 8: Absolutely so obviously the right choice. 759 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 760 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 7: Wow, even just having a quick temper, I'm like, no, 761 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: that's a that's a big red flag, uh for su Yikes. 762 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely made the right decision. 763 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 7: She'll be fine. She'll have so much fun on that cruise. Yeah, 764 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 7: it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a good cruise. 765 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 7: My family abandoned the affair. Baby, Well that's a bad look. 766 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: What Hi? 767 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 7: I'm at twenty three mail and this week my entire 768 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 7: life changed. 769 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 6: Three days ago, my grandfather passed away. 770 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: He was seventy eight. He had two kids, my mom 771 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 7: and my uncle. I'm the youngest in our family, or 772 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: at least I thought I was. By the way, this 773 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 7: comes from a Safe a Gazelle fifty two to seventy 774 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 7: four and If do you want to submit your own stories, 775 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 7: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So during 776 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 7: the wake, a huge bomb dropped on all of us. 777 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 7: It turns out my grandfather had a four year old 778 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 7: daughter with a cleaning lady who used to help him 779 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 7: around the house. The woman is gone and no one 780 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 7: knows where she went. The girl's name is Lenka, and 781 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 7: she's tiny, quiet and completely alone, and everyone in my 782 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 7: family hates her. Oh no, not Lenkaw the funeral, nobody 783 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: would even look at her. 784 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 6: I saw her curled up in the corner of the 785 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 6: room like she was trying to disappear, and the. 786 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: Only conversation anyone had was who's not going to take her? 787 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 7: They all agreed that she should be sent to an orphanage. 788 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 7: I don't know what happened to me at that moment, 789 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 7: but I snapped. I walked over to her, knelt down, smiled, 790 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 7: and asked, would you like to live with me? 791 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 6: She didn't say anything, just slowly nodded, and that was it. 792 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 6: That night, Lanka came home with me. 793 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 7: She had been staying with my cousin for a few days, 794 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 7: and Nica handed me her health card and basically said 795 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 7: good luck. I'm a twenty three year old guy living 796 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 7: alone in a small apartment in eastern Slovakia. I work 797 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 7: from home, I pay rent. I'm not rich. I've never 798 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 7: raised a child. I'm still an external university student. I 799 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 7: go to school on weekends. But she came with me 800 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 7: and she's been here since that night. She didn't say 801 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 7: a word on the car ride. I showed her my apartment, 802 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 7: gave her food. She barely reacted. Later that night, while 803 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 7: I was trying to sleep, I broke. It was two am, 804 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 7: and I was crying, like I haven't cried in years. 805 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 7: I kept thinking, what the heck am I doing? How 806 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 7: can I raise a child when I'm just a kid myself. 807 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 7: My family won't help, Everyone will judge me. She's not 808 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 7: even technically my niece. She's my aunt, yeah that part's 809 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 7: while she's my mom's half sister, which makes her my aunt. 810 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 3: But she's four. 811 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 7: I couldn't sleep at all that night. Around three am, 812 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 7: we had a little accident. She went the bed, didn't cry, 813 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 7: She just tried to hide the blanket like she didn't 814 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 7: want me to find out. My heart cracked in half. 815 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 7: I told her everything's okay and helped her clean up. 816 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 7: In the morning, I explained that we needed to go 817 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 7: shopping for her things. We walked to the store, only 818 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 7: five minutes away, but it took us fifteen. She was 819 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: trying to be independent and didn't want to hold my hand, 820 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 7: but on the way back she was so tired she 821 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 7: almost collapsed on the sidewalk. 822 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: I asked if I could carry her. 823 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 7: She said no at first, but after a few more 824 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 7: steps I picked her up anyway. 825 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 6: She looked annoyed but didn't resist. We made it home. 826 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 7: I made her breakfast, thank you to the friend who 827 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 7: gave me ideas, then told her we had to go 828 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 7: to some offices so I could become her guardian. I 829 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 7: thought I'd just drop off the papers and said the 830 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 7: whole process started immediately. 831 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: It was chaos. 832 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 7: I brought every document I had, my ID, death certificate, 833 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 7: her health card, a letter I wrote asking for emergency 834 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 7: temporary custody. 835 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: But when I got to the child. 836 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 6: Services office, one woman tore me apart. 837 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 7: She was cold and cruel and basically called me a 838 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 7: stupid boy to my face. 839 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: You're just a kid. 840 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 6: You can't raise another kid. You don't even have rights 841 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 6: to her. 842 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 7: She's better off with her mother, and she said all 843 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 7: this in front of Lenka, who was sitting quietly in 844 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 7: my lap. I looked down and saw tears running down 845 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 7: her face. At first I didn't even notice, just felt 846 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 7: her little body trembling. Oh my god, she was crying silently. 847 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 7: I gently apologized to the woman, stood up and said 848 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 7: we'd come back later. I took Lenka outside and walked 849 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 7: her to a little ice cream shop nearby, who sat 850 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 7: together in silence. I explained that we'd have to go 851 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 7: back and talk to the mean lady, but I've I 852 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 7: promised that I would stay with her the whole time. 853 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: She nodded back inside. 854 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 7: The woman didn't get any nicer, but she did explain 855 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 7: what would happen next, basically exactly what I had read online. 856 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 7: Social workers will visit us, they'll try to contact her mother. 857 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 7: If they find her, she make it legal priority. But 858 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 7: I'm going to fight this because if that woman abandoned 859 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 7: Lenka once, she'll do it again, and I won't let 860 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 7: that happen. Now it's late again, I'm completely drained, and 861 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 7: I need to say this somewhere. 862 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: I love this kid. 863 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 6: I've known her for three days, and I would do 864 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 6: anything to protect her. 865 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 7: But I'm falling apart inside. I work from home, which 866 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 7: is the only reason this is even possible, But on 867 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 7: weekends I go to university and I'll probably have to 868 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 7: give that up. There's no babysitting culture here in Slovakia, 869 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 7: especially not in a small town like ours. I'm selling 870 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 7: my motorcycle so we'll have more money for her. I'm 871 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 7: terrified I'll never have a girlfriend, because what twenty three 872 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 7: year old wants a boyfriend with a four year old. 873 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I traded everything I used. 874 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 7: To be for someone who deserves a better life, and 875 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 7: I don't regret it. But I'm scared and tired and 876 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 7: trying not to break. I don't even know why I'm 877 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 7: posting this. I just needed to let it out. If 878 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 7: you read all this, thank you really, and if anyone's 879 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 7: been through something so I'm Laura. Any advice would mean 880 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 7: the world. And there are some comments, but do you 881 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 7: have any before you move on to those, have you 882 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 7: been in the summer situation? 883 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? 884 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, this is totally right in my wheelhouse. 885 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Grandpa's They got a lot of time 886 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: on there is. 887 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about what the Slovakian government would 888 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 4: provide for you. It seems like their system kind of 889 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 4: is based on arbitrary. It's her mom, so she'll get 890 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 4: and she'll probably just abandon the kid again. 891 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't I don't have any advice because I 892 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 6: don't know. 893 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 4: Become some sort of you know, traveling band. You and Lenka. 894 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 4: You can be like, you know, the percussion, and then 895 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 4: she can be like on your shoulders playing like a 896 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: flute of some kind. 897 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 6: Maybe yeah, give her the complicated one. 898 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 4: Become Internet famous and then you know, now you're trillionaires. 899 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 7: Tina Marie ten eighteen says, I don't have any advice, 900 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 7: but as someone who grew up unwanted, I do want 901 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 7: to tell you thank you for taking her in and 902 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 7: wanting to fight for her. 903 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: It means so much more than you will ever know. 904 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 6: Opie says, thank you. 905 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: I needed this. 906 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 7: E v B six six six says that you are 907 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 7: a good person and I'm waiting for you. 908 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: Opie says thanks. 909 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 7: Any advice they say, firstly, document everything, don't let the 910 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 7: horrible social worker get to you. 911 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: You're a hero to litle Lenka. Right now. 912 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 7: Seek out some parenting forums, single dad groups, or even 913 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 7: local churches and community centers that may have resources that 914 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: can offer support. Children thrive on predictabilities, so having some 915 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 7: semblance of a routine will help you both. Make sure 916 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 7: that that includes a little breathing space for yourself. Linka's 917 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 7: trauma won't vanish overnight, and patience is everything. You are 918 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 7: already taking small steps of trust. You don't have to 919 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 7: be perfect. Just keep showing up for her. You learn 920 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 7: as you go and are more than enough right now. 921 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 7: I'm sure your grandfather will be looking over you. Rainbow 922 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 7: Bright says, when someone says document everything, it does mean 923 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 7: as literal much as you can. In the beginning, take 924 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 7: a full body clothed picture of her every month to 925 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 7: get in a binder with a piece of paper where 926 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 7: you write out her height and wait write notes like 927 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 7: what she likes to eat and watch and play, and 928 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 7: what books you're reading to her. This serves two purposes. 929 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 7: You can prove that she's healthy, growing, and cared for. 930 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 7: You can also prove that you are caring for her 931 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 7: and I know things about her. It also gives you 932 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 7: a regular current photo in case Mom tries to show 933 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 7: up and yoink her. 934 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 6: It may sound tedious or annoying. 935 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: But it will be so worthwhile. 936 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 6: One day when she grows up and you can show 937 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 6: her what she was like as a little person. 938 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 7: Nanny sixty five says that you will never be sorry 939 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 7: that you stood up for her. I don't know anything 940 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 7: about what you need to do to get formal custody 941 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 7: of her, but I guess a lawyer would be useful. 942 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 7: Aside from custody, surely she would be entitled to your 943 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 7: grandfather's estate. Good luck to you, Opie. I'm sending the 944 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 7: two of you hugs. Opie says it can't afford a lawyer, 945 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 7: but I will fight. 946 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 947 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 7: Quick Store says, I don't know laws in your country, 948 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 7: but your grandfather has an estate and she should be entitled. 949 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 6: To something as his child that will help offset raising her. 950 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 7: Not sure what death benefits look like for children with 951 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 7: deceased parents that still need support, look into those options 952 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 7: as well. 953 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 3: Opie says. 954 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 7: The entire land and house were already decided and divided 955 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 7: between my mom and uncle about ten years ago. 956 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: That's what the will says. 957 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 7: If I wanted to fight this proposal, I would have 958 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 7: to hire a lawyer. At least Grandpa left me a 959 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 7: field and some plots of forest land. And there is 960 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 7: an update. Tanka is doing well. She finally started smiling. 961 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: Hey, linca smile. 962 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 7: I introduced her to my neighbor, an older lady who 963 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 7: never had children. She looked after Linka while I went 964 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 7: to get her toys from her grandfather's house. She also 965 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 7: has a dog, and Linka just can't stop playing with it. 966 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 7: One night, Linka found me crying. She sleeps in my 967 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 7: bed and I've taken the couch. I guess she must 968 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 7: have heard me. She came to me and asked if 969 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 7: I was crying because of her. Of course I said no, 970 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 7: and when she hugged me, my heart shattered into a 971 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 7: million pieces. I will protect that child. She's mine, and 972 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 7: I'll do anything for her. 973 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 3: We have some comments. 974 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 7: Phililiana says, Opie, you are a wonderful person, and I'm 975 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 7: sure there will be lots of women. 976 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 3: Who would want a man with a heart like yours. 977 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 7: What you do for that kid is selfless and kind 978 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 7: and good, and she will be forever grateful for the 979 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 7: one person who stood by her when all the others failed. 980 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 7: I'm not sure whether it is affordable to get her 981 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 7: into therapy, but I strongly suggest it for the both 982 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 7: of you. I wish you all the best, Opie says, yes, 983 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 7: I'm planning to take her to a therapist in Slovakia. 984 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 7: If you pay for health and insurance, it's free. I'm 985 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,479 Speaker 7: paying for our health insurance and I also get paid 986 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 7: extra for various injuries and so on. Not trying to 987 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 7: make waves, says hi op some small advice. You're doing 988 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 7: amazing and I admire your humanity and resolve. Childcare is 989 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 7: tiring through in body and soul, and it would be 990 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 7: easy to slide into a world of putting Linka first 991 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 7: and only Lanka. This will bring you out. There will 992 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 7: be times where it's in her best interest to come 993 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 7: second and put yourself first. You're sleeping on the sofa, 994 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 7: you need to work out a way of getting a 995 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 7: proper sofa bed. 996 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 3: It doesn't have. 997 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 7: To be new, and you can sometimes pick them up 998 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 7: for cheap or even free in local groups. You have 999 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 7: to make sure that you're sleeping well, because if you're not, 1000 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 7: then it will affect your mood, your health, and your 1001 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 7: parenting relationship with Linka. 1002 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 3: Socializing being a single parent. 1003 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 7: Will mean that you almost never go out and run 1004 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 7: the risk of getting cut off socially. 1005 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 3: Look at something like D and D, which can be played. 1006 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 7: Online through Discord, or Roll twenty, which will give you 1007 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 7: access to adult conversation. Take the opportunity if she's invited 1008 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 7: to a sleepover, to go out and see friends. Even 1009 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 7: if you think you could just sleep for a thousand years, 1010 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 7: your mental health is important. Opie says, thank you for 1011 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 7: the advice. My friend offered to sell me his son's bed, 1012 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 7: so I should be back in my own bed in 1013 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 7: a few days at least, I hope so. And oh god, 1014 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 7: I didn't even think about that. Since she has been 1015 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 7: with me, I haven't gone out with my friends even once. 1016 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: I really need to look into that. Thank you. 1017 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 7: And Aleanna oxen Free says, take her with you to 1018 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 7: meet your friends and hang out. As a single parent, 1019 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 7: I brought my kid everywhere and she was just my 1020 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 7: little sidekick, and I got socialized and she. 1021 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 3: Got to socialize, and it was helpful to both of 1022 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: our growth. Ope says, yes, I will probably do that. 1023 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 7: I belonged to a motorcycle club, or at least I 1024 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 7: used to, but I sold my motorcycle. But everyone in 1025 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 7: the club is incredibly kind. I'll take her bowling with us. Wow, 1026 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 7: that is the end of that story. 1027 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 9: Wow, everyone would clap woo w Wes not abandoned an 1028 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 9: a fair baby. Let's go, Let's go his aunt. 1029 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 3: He can't abandon his aunts. 1030 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 4: And now Lenka's going to be a professional bowler. Oh yeah, 1031 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 4: I just going bowling. 1032 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: She's going pro. That's how they're going to make the money. 1033 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: My father has a secret family that he hid from us. 1034 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 3: Seecret family. Seecret family. 1035 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 4: The first ten years of my parents' marriage were pretty 1036 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: normal as far as I could see. In two thousand 1037 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 4: and five, my father tried to break up in a 1038 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: kind of midlife crisis. Once my mother guilt tripped him 1039 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 4: into staying, and he did under the agreement that he 1040 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 4: could go on so low holidays every once in a while. 1041 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from user jib murcafee and 1042 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1043 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 4: the our slash Okay storytime subrend it. So to sum 1044 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 4: up the following ten years, Dad worked over time a lot, 1045 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 4: and we had our problems with money regardless. 1046 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 2: What was weird and maybe obvious. 1047 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 4: It was weird and maybe obvious, but I didn't really 1048 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 4: notice back then. Fast forward to September twenty fifteen, my 1049 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 4: father told me that he wanted to break up, but 1050 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 4: this time for real. 1051 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 2: He told me. 1052 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: A week before he told my mom. I was still 1053 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 4: living at home, and this week was a nightmare. A 1054 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 4: big part of me as a person consists of being 1055 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 4: absolutely open and honest about everything, especially to the people 1056 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 4: I trust. My mom always was a person I trusted 1057 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 4: and much like a last straw if something in my 1058 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 4: life really went down a rabbit hole, and this would 1059 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: have been a moment I really needed her, but my 1060 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 4: dad blocked that option for me, as he wanted to 1061 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 4: tell it to her himself. Every single time I saw 1062 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 4: my mom in this week, I felt incredibly bad for 1063 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 4: her that I knew and she didn't. A week later, 1064 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 4: he told her and she broke down. Dad was the 1065 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 4: love of her life and still is that is until today, 1066 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 4: and he broke her heart. She was very understanding and 1067 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 4: let him go, and they agreed about not divorcing for 1068 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 4: tax reason. They not only agreed on that, but also 1069 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 4: him still doing repairs on the house on a weekly 1070 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 4: basis and letting her live in the house without any 1071 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 4: cost while he moved out. Mom got in a fragile 1072 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 4: state of mind. Since then, two weeks post breakup, I 1073 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: nearly passed away all of a sudden, Mom's world broke 1074 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 4: down again. Thank god, I recovered, but it was a 1075 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 4: really slow the process and my mom was in permanent 1076 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 4: worry about me. In this time, my dad introduced me 1077 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 4: to his girlfriend, Sarah forty two females. He eve invited 1078 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 4: me into her apartment that he moved into with her, 1079 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 4: and she was wasted in the middle of the deck 1080 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 4: and smoked a lot, which was really a off putting 1081 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 4: thing for me. Trying to recover my lungs didn't make 1082 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 4: it better. November twenty fifteen, I nearly passed away to 1083 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 4: the same thing for the second time, with doctors calling 1084 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 4: out my parents. 1085 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: Gosh, they said they should. 1086 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 4: Come to the hospital because we weren't sure if I 1087 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 4: would survive the night. Mom got into a huge argument 1088 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 4: with my dad because he didn't come over. I never 1089 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 4: forgave him that he wasn't there, maybe not for my 1090 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 4: morphine pumped self, but at least for my mom having 1091 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 4: the worst night of her life. I began to recover 1092 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: slowly and my mom was in a superfragile state, crying 1093 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 4: a lot and reaching out to me to talk about 1094 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 4: the breakup because she didn't want to tell her friends. 1095 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 4: I had enough to do with handling the breakup of 1096 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 4: my parents and my near death experiences, so I couldn't 1097 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 4: bear my mom's pain as well as badly as I 1098 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 4: wanted to help her. Dad saw the situation from the 1099 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 4: outside and offered me to move out and pay for 1100 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 4: my rent. I took the chance and moved closer to 1101 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 4: my university and loved the feeling of finally standing on 1102 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: my own two feet. My mom hates to be alone 1103 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 4: with all the memories in our family house, but with 1104 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 4: time passing by, I slowly have the feeling she's coped 1105 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 4: with it, as my dad and I visit her regularly. 1106 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 4: He broke up with his girlfriend, Sarah by that time 1107 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 4: because they got an argument about her being wasted and 1108 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: breaking his coffee machine. April twenty sixteen, my dad introduced 1109 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: me to his girlfriend of today, Rachel fifty six, female 1110 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 4: and her family. Her three kids are around my age, 1111 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 4: and I really like those people. I love to see 1112 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 4: my father happy with her. I know Mom doesn't know 1113 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 4: about her, but we didn't want to pull Mom out 1114 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 4: of her own world due to her fragile state, and 1115 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 4: I think it's better this way. Fast forward to last 1116 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 4: weekend and the huge plot twist. My boyfriend twenty four 1117 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 4: Mail and I were invited over to Rachel's birthday. Everything 1118 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: was fine and we had a good time, and all 1119 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 4: of a sudden, Rachel pulled out an album of photographs 1120 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 4: of a family vacation in two thousand and eight. The 1121 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 4: album contained photos of my dad on a family vacation 1122 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 4: with another woman, with another family ten years ago. 1123 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 2: I had a hard time coping. 1124 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 4: With the situation and not breaking out into tears of 1125 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 4: desperation in front of everybody. The man I respected so 1126 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 4: much for always working so hard wasn't working overtime. He 1127 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 4: was with another family. It just feels like the last 1128 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 4: ten years with my family were a complete lie. 1129 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 2: And you don't go on a family vacation if you 1130 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: just got together. 1131 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: My guess is they got together when my dad tried 1132 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: to break up for the first time, just with the 1133 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 4: small difference that he stayed and pretended that everything was fine. 1134 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 4: He led a whole double life with a second family. 1135 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 4: The man I respect the most in my life for 1136 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 4: what he is and is not only cheated, which is 1137 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 4: a huge no go for me, but much worse, he 1138 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 4: constantly lied about pretty much everything where he goes, why 1139 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 4: we don't have any money? 1140 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 2: Everything? And what about the former girlfriend Sarah? 1141 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 3: Did he heat cheat. 1142 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 2: With her on Rachel? How much does she know? Does 1143 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 2: she know? My mom doesn't know. 1144 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 4: I don't have the courage yet to talk to my 1145 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 4: dad about this and ask questions. There are so many 1146 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 4: questions in my head and I even messed up my 1147 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 4: recent exams because of this. 1148 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 2: I feel so incredibly. 1149 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 4: Bad for my mom, and the worst thing is that 1150 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 4: I can't tell her at first. This is absolutely not 1151 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 4: my job to tell her, sure, but I feel so 1152 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 4: horribly guilty for knowing this while she doesn't know or 1153 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 4: does she know, and she just never told me. I 1154 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 4: have no idea if it hit me already that hard, 1155 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 4: how bad would it be for her? 1156 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 3: For me? 1157 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 4: It was a childhood for her a twenty year marriage. 1158 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 4: Don't even know how to feel about this. It would 1159 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 4: be so much easier if I didn't love both my 1160 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 4: mom and my dad and his second family as well. 1161 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 4: The worst part for me, and this does sound selfish, 1162 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 4: is that I'm not able to talk with the person 1163 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: that always helped and was there for me when everything 1164 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 4: went down the hole because it would probably hurt her, 1165 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: my mom even more than me. My gut feeling says, 1166 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 4: I need to distance myself from my family, but I'm 1167 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 4: not sure if that will help. I don't know how 1168 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 4: to deal with the whole situation. Advice and we have 1169 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 4: some comments, I mean, do we have any more advice 1170 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 4: between the three of us, folks. 1171 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 7: I get why she feels like she doesn't She can't 1172 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 7: talk to her because she doesn't want to be like 1173 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 7: stepping out a turn or something like that, or like 1174 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 7: deal with some like sort of relationship issues that she's 1175 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 7: not technically a part of. 1176 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 6: And she also just does maybe doesn't want to hurt 1177 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 6: the mom. 1178 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 4: I'm at number one, You need to speak with a therapist, 1179 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 4: like yesterday. 1180 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 2: Is this an option for you at all? 1181 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 4: It's hard to process and except that parents are just 1182 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 4: humans after all, finding out the flaws of our parents 1183 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 4: can be so difficult. And this one, well, it's a doozy. 1184 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 4: Showing you the photo album was insensitive. They should have 1185 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 4: never brought you into that situation without preparing for the 1186 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 4: very likely outcome that you'd find out your mom needs 1187 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 4: professional help as well. 1188 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 2: It's good of you to want. 1189 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 4: To support her in love, but you're her daughter and 1190 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 4: you cannot be responsible for how she processes this. Everyone 1191 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 4: needs counseling here, Mom, dad, you, any other kids involved. Everyone, 1192 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry you are in this situation. I can't 1193 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 4: even fathom the kind of deception and heartache op he says. 1194 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm really considering speaking with a therapist, but this can 1195 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 4: have a lot of bad consequences in my country. For example, 1196 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 4: it does affect your credit score and insurances are really bad. 1197 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 2: Need to do more research about that. 1198 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 4: But I really like to build a future with a 1199 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 4: home with my boyfriend, so bad credit score would be 1200 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 4: a huge problem. I think about it more in the 1201 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 4: terms that it's been affecting everyone for such a long time, 1202 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 4: and it's been affecting me so badly that I don't 1203 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 4: want to let it destroy my future as well. And 1204 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 4: regarding this, I'm not sure if my mom would be 1205 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 4: better off knowing it. What I know for sure is 1206 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 4: that if I get together all of my courage and 1207 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 4: tell her, I'd look for a therapist for her and 1208 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 4: make sure she gets professional help. So most of you 1209 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 4: guys advise me to tell my mom and get therapy 1210 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 4: for us, both as well as a divorce for my mom. 1211 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 4: I tried to follow this idea, but honestly, it didn't 1212 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 4: feel right to me, and I felt like it's a 1213 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 4: not my job to do this and be not my 1214 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 4: right to pop. 1215 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: The bubble she lives in. Point B. 1216 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 4: It's pretty important because my mom tends to live in 1217 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 4: her own bubble. It's gotten worse since my dad moved 1218 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 4: out because she can't deny that he's gone. Dad and 1219 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 4: I decided a long time ago, ten years or so, 1220 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 4: that we don't rip her out of her own little 1221 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 4: world and let her live in denial. Also because arguing 1222 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 4: with her is pointless, and I do mean pointless. If 1223 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 4: she has another point than you, you could talk as 1224 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 4: well to a wall. Logic doesn't work here. Something I 1225 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,959 Speaker 4: realized about my mom that surprised me as well would 1226 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 4: be that some days after posting, I stumbled upon a 1227 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 4: subreddit called raised by Narth and guess what I found? 1228 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 4: My mom the North Prayer, completely absorbing the being a 1229 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 4: mother of personality, even going far enough to make me 1230 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 4: sick as a child to have a reason she can't 1231 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 4: go to work and be a full time mother. But 1232 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 4: that's another story on its own. Hanging around with the 1233 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 4: lovely mom of my boyfriend. I realized a lot of 1234 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 4: what I experienced and knew is not just usual mom behavior, 1235 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 4: and that my mom is some kind of master guilt tripper. 1236 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm her victim basically my whole life. I felt guilty 1237 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 4: because I tended to like my dad more than my mom, 1238 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 4: and I never understood what was going on. But seeing 1239 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 4: both their behaviors from a third person's perspective was a 1240 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 4: real eye opener. I learned that my mom was and 1241 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,399 Speaker 4: is a manipulative and controlling person, and I understood why 1242 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 4: visiting her is always exhausting, both for my boyfriend and myself. 1243 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 4: Boyfriend saw and told me what I couldn't see, or 1244 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 4: I guess what I didn't want to see, and all 1245 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 4: I thought was, I mean, well, she's still my mom, 1246 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 4: so it's my duty to deal with it. In retrospect, 1247 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 4: it seems like my dad always wanted to protect me 1248 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 4: from her. That's still confusing to understand now at twenty five. Heck, 1249 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 4: how should I have understood what's going on as a child. 1250 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: Where about my dad? 1251 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 4: You may already have gotten an idea why he led 1252 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 4: a double life and kept it all secret. He didn't 1253 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 4: want to leave me alone with my mom. I reached 1254 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 4: out to him after the birthday party to talk, and 1255 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 4: he was happy I did. As we sat at the 1256 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 4: table and talked about it. He was very calm and 1257 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 4: apologized to me that my feelings were so crushed by this. 1258 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 2: What the what's going on? What just happened? 1259 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 6: We're finally talking to the dad. 1260 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: Did dad do a switcheroo? Or what's going on here? 1261 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 5: Now? 1262 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 2: It's mom? It's been mom the whole time. You realized it. 1263 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 7: I guess I can't tell you that dad is like 1264 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 7: telling her this, but I don't know how else she 1265 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 7: would find it out. So I'm guessing the dad is 1266 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 7: telling her about this and she's kind of but I mean, 1267 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 7: if she started to talk to the dad is like 1268 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 7: why did you do this? 1269 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: And he's like, a, I see your mom. 1270 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 4: So he says he never intended to hurt me and 1271 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 4: didn't think it would be a surprise for me at all, 1272 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 4: since I was always a smart kid, and how could 1273 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 4: one not see that something is wrong with their parents 1274 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 4: sleeping in separate beds. I told him it's hard to 1275 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 4: see for a child that doesn't know any better, and 1276 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 4: he apologized again that he didn't think of that, and 1277 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 4: he felt really bad for me. He also confessed that 1278 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm the person he trusts and loves the most, and 1279 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 4: that's the reason he wanted me to know and let 1280 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 4: me be a bigger part of his world. Oh and 1281 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 4: an interesting bit of info, Rachel and him have had 1282 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 4: their twenty year anniversary next year. Oh my god, so 1283 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 4: many wrong decisions were made here regarding the relationship stuff. 1284 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: I really feel sorry. 1285 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,399 Speaker 4: For him and am finally able to underst and why 1286 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 4: he always told me to take my time knowing someone 1287 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 4: before thinking about getting a child. Anecdotal I was an 1288 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 4: accident baby. He knew her two months before she got pregnant, 1289 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 4: but she always told him she took birth control. What 1290 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 4: have I done the last few months? Where am I now? 1291 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't tell my mom at this point. 1292 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 4: I don't see the sense in telling her. She'll just 1293 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 4: deny it anyway. 1294 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 2: I know my mom. 1295 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 4: I love her despite what she did to me and 1296 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 4: still does to me, and it doesn't make sense. 1297 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 2: To hurt her with the truth. 1298 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 4: Deep down, I feel she knows it anyway and has 1299 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 4: known it all along. I guess an adult does notice 1300 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 4: that sleeping in separate beds isn't the norm and still 1301 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 4: denies it. 1302 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 2: There's no need to rip her out of denial this deep. 1303 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: I did talk about it with other adults, my physician 1304 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: being one of them. 1305 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 4: He told me that my gut feeling is right, and 1306 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 4: before I consult a therapist, I should consider taking my 1307 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 4: time and my distance from it all and see how 1308 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 4: I feel. Since he also confirmed that going to a 1309 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 4: therapist in Germany has consequences for some work fields, he 1310 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: said he has the impression that I sorted through my 1311 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 4: thoughts well enough to handle this and that I'm not 1312 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 4: left alone in this. 1313 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: Here's some interesting info. 1314 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 4: Every person that knew my mom personally advised me to 1315 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 4: not tell her and that it wouldn't make any sense. 1316 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 4: I decided that both my parents are adults and old 1317 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 4: enough to handle their relationship alone. That was a huge one, 1318 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 4: and honestly, I think this is the point I made 1319 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 4: my first step into getting over it and distancing myself 1320 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 4: from this mess. As far as I can see, it helped. 1321 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 4: I got an apprenticeship in my dream job at a 1322 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 4: dream company about two hundred and twenty miles from home. 1323 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like a lot, but the physical distance 1324 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 4: is a huge relief because I'm just not tangible anymore. 1325 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 4: A nice side effect of all of this is, even 1326 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 4: though that I'm working more hours per week, going from 1327 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 4: twenty to thirty five hours, I started to excel in 1328 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 4: my studies at that point. I think it might be 1329 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 4: about all the distraction and worry that I had at home. 1330 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 4: Since I've been here. I come home and then I'm 1331 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 4: able to concentrate on the stuff I have to learn. 1332 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 4: Then I'll go out for a walk, come home, cook 1333 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 4: a healthy meal for a boyfriend in me sleep early. 1334 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 2: I feel so much better overall. 1335 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 4: Seeing what it's like to work in my dream job 1336 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 4: might be a little motivator too. So what helped me 1337 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 4: all along is distance, mostly the physical distance, since I 1338 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 4: don't feel bad about it, even if my mom still 1339 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,479 Speaker 4: tries to guilt trip me every other day. 1340 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 2: But that's the point. 1341 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 4: I just turn off my phone and enjoy my life 1342 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 4: and make the best out of it. There's absolutely no 1343 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 4: reason one should feel bad about taking the chance to 1344 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 4: work in their dream job in a dream company. And 1345 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 4: if whoever doesn't respect that or didn't understand that the 1346 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 4: world doesn't gravitate around them, and most importantly, that your 1347 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 4: kids are their own persons with their own wishes and 1348 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 4: goals and shouldn't be pressured into fulfilling wishes and goals. 1349 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 4: That you weren't able to make a words about my 1350 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 4: health since a lot of you were concerned about how 1351 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 4: I'm doing. What led me to almost passing away was 1352 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 4: a big chain of unfortunate events, lemony snicket and mistakes 1353 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 4: made by medical personnel. Unfortunately, it does affect me to 1354 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 4: this day and always will because ten percent of my 1355 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 4: lung tissue it died in the process and I have 1356 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 4: to take lifelong medication to make my blood clot slower 1357 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 4: to avoid it from happening again. 1358 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 2: Don't worry, I'm fine. 1359 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 4: I had my point of no return in March twenty seventeen, 1360 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 4: where I decided I don't want to live the rest 1361 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 4: of my life into bed and went my way. Lost 1362 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 4: fifty five pounds, got my skin nice and clear, and 1363 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 4: changed my overall being, all out of my own free 1364 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 4: will and with the help of Reddit that I just 1365 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 4: discovered at that time. Today, I learned moving around and 1366 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,479 Speaker 4: building stamina helps a lot if you're lacking a chunk 1367 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 4: of your lung. So you could say Reddit literally changed 1368 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 4: my life for the better. But that's again another story 1369 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 4: on its own. Something that I didn't see was discussed. 1370 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned a twenty year anniversary. But does the other wife, 1371 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 4: Rachel not your mom know about the girlfriend Sarah. I'd 1372 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 4: assume not. If not, i'd assume your dad was on 1373 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 4: and off with the twenty year anniversary wife. Right. OHP 1374 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 4: says not sure about that. My father mentioned her the 1375 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 4: twenty year anniversary girlfriend to be on the more jealous side. 1376 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 4: It could be the result of him telling her about Sarah. 1377 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 4: I didn't talk about Sarah anymore since I also disliked 1378 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 4: her as a person. I knew her for years and 1379 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 4: never really liked her. Nothing to do with the relationship stuff. 1380 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story. 1381 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: Hey, Sam, we're going to get back to the stories. 1382 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bad s prom our sponsors. 1383 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,959 Speaker 6: My stepbrother excluded us from his wedding. 1384 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 3: Because we disrespected his fiance. 1385 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 2: He uno reverse carded the disrespect for her. 1386 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 3: Context. 1387 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 7: I twenty one female, have a stepbrother nineteen male, who 1388 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 7: i'll call Tristan, that has been dating his girlfriend, eighteen 1389 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 7: female I'll call her Heather for about a year now. 1390 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 7: They met in high school when she was a junior 1391 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 7: and he was a senior. Throughout their relationship, my family 1392 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 7: and I have seen red flags from Heather. In the beginning, 1393 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 7: she seemed nice enough and we had no issues. This 1394 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 7: is until they were lying to my parents about her 1395 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 7: giving him rides home from school. 1396 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 6: Hanging out, and you know, the normal teenage things. 1397 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from a commercial time seventy 1398 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 7: five eighteen from the r slash Charlotte Dobray YouTube subreddits, 1399 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 7: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 1400 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 7: to the r slash Okay story time subreddit. So a 1401 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 7: few months into their relationship, my parents caught them in 1402 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 7: adult activities in his room with. 1403 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 3: The door open, well all of us were home, of course. 1404 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 6: Arguing and yelling followed this, and she left. 1405 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 7: This was on top of them lying about being a couple, 1406 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 7: lying about her driving around and hanging out, him trying 1407 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 7: to sneaker in the house, and her having what I 1408 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 7: can only describe as a snobby attitude with my parents. Eventually, 1409 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 7: my parents banned her from our house, but told them 1410 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 7: what they do together outside of our house isn't their business. 1411 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 6: They told me this too when I was with my ex. 1412 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 3: This is where I figured he would. 1413 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 7: Dump her, as that was his usual pattern with his 1414 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 7: version of dating. Tristan was a very troubled child to 1415 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 7: say the least. My stepmom and two stepbrothers moved in 1416 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 7: with my dad when I was about ten. I lived 1417 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 7: with my witch of a woman for a mother and 1418 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 7: her husband they are a whole another story on their 1419 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 7: own at the time, and visited my dad on the weekends. Now, 1420 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 7: I moved in with my dad and stepmom after I 1421 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 7: turned eighteen. In the first two years of me living 1422 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 7: with my family, he had dated at least four different 1423 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 7: girls to my knowledge, and they all ended the same way. 1424 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 7: He would get some adult action for a few weeks, 1425 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 7: get caught or bored, and then move on to the next. 1426 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 6: But for some reason, Heather was different. 1427 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 7: He won't even hang out with his friends if they're 1428 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 7: going to a place like a club or bar because 1429 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 7: Heather won't like it personally as a girlfriend. 1430 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 3: If I trusted my partner, I wouldn't care. 1431 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 6: But I know every one is different for different reasons. 1432 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 7: Tristan is not one to be walked on, as he 1433 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 7: has had so many fights with our parents. 1434 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 6: As he would do things like break into my room. 1435 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 7: It was so bad my dad put a lock on 1436 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 7: my door and it still didn't stop him and steal 1437 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 7: my gaming console or tablet, or sneak my stepmom's old 1438 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 7: phone or computer when we weren't home or sleeping. This 1439 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 7: behavior got better as we got older. Tristan was accepted 1440 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 7: early into the military before he even met Heather, and 1441 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 7: had initially told her he wasn't sure how it. 1442 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 3: Would affect their relationship. This led to her. 1443 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 7: Screaming and crying about him not being able to promise 1444 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 7: they were be together forever and that she can't handle 1445 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 7: the long distance relationships prize. Apparently she can, because he 1446 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 7: has been in the military for over a year now 1447 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,959 Speaker 7: and has been home maybe four times. Tristan even broke 1448 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 7: down crying talking to my dad about the situation with 1449 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 7: her because he didn't know what to do, and my 1450 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 7: dad told him that a good relationship should not make 1451 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 7: him feel this way. Remember when I said she was 1452 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 7: banned from the house, Well, my parents decided to be 1453 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 7: nice and let her come over for this past Christmas 1454 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 7: as she doesn't care for either of her parents, and 1455 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 7: my brother had asked since it was Christmas. 1456 01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Well, my dad caught them in. 1457 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 7: The eye again when he went inside to get them 1458 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 7: so we could go look at Christmas lights like we 1459 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 7: do every year. 1460 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 6: Imagine that the dad is like, hey. 1461 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Guys, you want to go over the girl? Oh my god, 1462 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 3: you got it? 1463 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you want to go see some 1464 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Christmas law. 1465 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 6: Now to the reason for this post. 1466 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 7: Tristan called the other night to tell us about his 1467 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 7: new job and that he's coming back home for a 1468 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,439 Speaker 7: few days next week and wanted to maybe grab lunch 1469 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 7: or dinner the Thursday that he's here, as he will 1470 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 7: be getting in late Wednesday night. Our family conversation was 1471 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 7: normal until he casually mentioned him getting married, to which 1472 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 7: he actually said that he freaked up by saying it 1473 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 7: since he messed up already. 1474 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: He came clean and told us that him and. 1475 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 7: Heather are getting married a week from this coming Saturday, 1476 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 7: on a boat. 1477 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 6: With her family that she hates and has no good 1478 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 6: relationships with. 1479 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 7: He never mentioned us being included in those plans, so 1480 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 7: my stepmama asked in the conversation with something like this, 1481 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 7: what about us, Well, I want. 1482 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 2: You guys there, but Heather does it. She said it would. 1483 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Ruin her plans and she kind of feels disrespected by 1484 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 4: you guys. 1485 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,439 Speaker 7: Right, well, anything to make her happy, I guess now. 1486 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 3: I know I'm on the younger side of this. 1487 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 7: However, I don't think that banning someone that has no 1488 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,959 Speaker 7: respect for my parents in their own house and still 1489 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 7: giving them a second chance which they failed again to 1490 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 7: be respectful. And yes, I do put fall on my 1491 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 7: brother for those actions as well, and so to my 1492 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 7: parents and encouraging him to go to a bar and 1493 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 7: hanging out with his friends. 1494 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 6: Where he is stationed instead of doing nothing and staying 1495 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:29,959 Speaker 6: in his. 1496 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 7: Housing is so bad that you won't let your soon 1497 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 7: to be husband invite his own family to the wedding. Also, 1498 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 7: me and my grandmother and I who is also our 1499 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 7: next door neighbor, have talked to this girl maybe four 1500 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 7: times the whole time that they were together, and. 1501 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Kept my comments to myself. 1502 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 6: So I'm not really. 1503 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 7: Sure what we did, but fine, my dad told him 1504 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 7: that it was unfortunate we weren't invited. 1505 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 6: Especially because he told us that he wanted us there, 1506 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 6: but because. 1507 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 3: He never told us. 1508 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 7: They have plans for a little vacation and I have 1509 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 7: to work, so we couldn't go even if he put 1510 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 7: his foot down on it. Dad told him that he's 1511 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 7: young and he needs to figure things out for himself. 1512 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 7: We know that he won't listen to us since he 1513 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 7: never did before, and that while we don't want him 1514 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 7: to marry this girl, it's his decision and it won't 1515 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 7: stop us from picking up the phone when he calls 1516 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 7: or having him come home to visit. However, it will 1517 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 7: not stop the inevitable conversation. We all need to have 1518 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 7: my family him and as soon to be wife if 1519 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 7: he truly wants to have us in his life, but 1520 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 7: she wants to exclude us because she feels this way. 1521 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 6: To this, my brother reluctantly agreed. 1522 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 3: As of now, my. 1523 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 7: Dad and I are over it since we already figured 1524 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 7: something like this would happen, and my step mom is 1525 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 7: very upset, which makes me angry. I love her so much. 1526 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 7: She's the mom that I never would have thought I 1527 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 7: could have. 1528 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 3: Her. 1529 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 7: Oldest son also joined the military and eventually faded us 1530 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 7: out for some reason. I wasn't very close with him 1531 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 7: since he left when I was like fifteen, and I 1532 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 7: barely saw him anyway, So she won't see him getting 1533 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 7: married or meet his kids if he has them. And 1534 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 7: now the same thing is starting with Tristan. If and 1535 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 7: when we hear anything or see him, I may give 1536 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 7: an update if you would like. I've been angry for 1537 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 7: two days now, and guess what, there is an update. 1538 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 3: Do you have any quick thoughts. 1539 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Like let's just be like, let's just all get along? 1540 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 4: Can't we all just decide to get along along? 1541 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 6: My best He found my post and urged me to 1542 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 6: update since it has. 1543 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Been a while. 1544 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, there's not much that I can say as of now, 1545 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 7: since we still have not heard from him and he's 1546 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 7: only posting his usual little memes on his social media. 1547 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 7: Although we haven't heard from him, we're taking the silence 1548 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 7: as they are now married and we have moved along 1549 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 7: with life and will be at the phone if and 1550 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 7: when he finally does call, since sometimes it's been a 1551 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 7: few months before he does call, being busy with th 1552 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 7: relocations and all. So when the time comes, as comments 1553 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 7: have said, I will have my popcorn ready and a 1554 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 7: moving track. 1555 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 3: If I have to. 1556 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 7: My lovely grandma bet me five dollars. They won't make 1557 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 7: it to six months, so maybe she will pay for 1558 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 7: my pop worn when the time comes. Well that's all 1559 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 7: for now, and there is an edit. I just would 1560 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 7: like to address a few questions I have seen in 1561 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 7: the comments of this update, as well as in the 1562 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 7: original post that I created. In the original post comments, 1563 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 7: I did relay that per my older stepbrother's absence, it 1564 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 7: was faded out after him joining the military, which spanned 1565 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 7: over about two years. He was traveling overseas a lot 1566 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 7: during those years. Unfortunately, as I did state in my 1567 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 7: original post, I did not know the entire a story 1568 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 7: of my older stepbrother's relationship with my stepmom or other 1569 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 7: stepbrother as I lived with my mother and only. 1570 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 3: Could visit my dad on the weekends. 1571 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 7: To my knowledge, there was not any issues, but he 1572 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 7: was very quiet and reserved, and he was sixteen or 1573 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 7: seventeen when they had moved in, so he was not 1574 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 7: truly around my dad and I for very long. The 1575 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 7: main thing of my family not being invited was due 1576 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 7: to my brother actually telling my stepmom he wanted us there, 1577 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 7: but his now wife did not, although she does not 1578 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 7: talk to her own parents, but she invited them. My 1579 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 7: dad said after I had written my original post that 1580 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 7: he's pretty sure that the no invite thing was pretty 1581 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 7: much just for my parents, since me and my grandma 1582 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 7: have had maybe one. 1583 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 6: Full conversation with this girl. 1584 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 7: Also, he has not gone no contact with my family 1585 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 7: to my knowledge. As I have previously stated, it has 1586 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 7: happened a few times that we do not hear from 1587 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 7: him for a few months at a time due to 1588 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 7: him being in the military. As for my own feelings 1589 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 7: on this, I am supportive of my brother no matter 1590 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 7: what he has decided, and as one comment has said on. 1591 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 3: This update, did take over on the little bet. 1592 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 6: My grandma made, especially since it has been. 1593 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 3: A month already. I love my brother very much and. 1594 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 6: He will continue with his decision for as. 1595 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 7: Long as he can't given his thieving habits that did 1596 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 7: not break until his senior year of high school, which 1597 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 7: was like a year or two ago, and that fighting 1598 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 7: him on it would only make him double down more. 1599 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 7: And that's the end of that story. Oh my gosh. 1600 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 4: All you can do in these situations that I've been 1601 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 4: told before where it's like, oh my god, you got 1602 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 4: to talk to so and so because they're going to 1603 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 4: marry so and so, And I'm like, what do you 1604 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 4: want me to say? 1605 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Right? 1606 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Right, He'll be. 1607 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 4: Like you so much now, I'm totally not going to 1608 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 4: marry this person. Yeah right, He's going to go, Oh, well, 1609 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 4: I really wish you didn't say that to me. 1610 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm going to get married. 1611 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 4: I guess you don't want to go to the wedding 1612 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 4: like what like, Come on, just be happy for people 1613 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 4: and wishing the best.