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Now here's a highlight from Coast 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio and welcome back to 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast George Nori with you or with Dr 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Mark Carlotto. His latest work is called Before Atlantis subtitle 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: important new evidence suggesting the existence of our previous technological 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: civilization on Earth before Atlantis. And what time period, Mark 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: are we talking about again? We're talking twelve thousand b C. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: We're talking the last hundred thousand years. Wow, way back 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: right right. This is the period over which have good 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: hypothesized that there were three pole shifts. Now with these shifts, 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: give me in your best estimate what kind of technological 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: civilizations we had then. So UM, the civilizations UM, you know, 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the base, the basic um sort of fingerprint or consistent 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: pattern that I see throughout all of these is is 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: actually really an assumption that we've always built UM, given 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: all factors considered equal, We've always built uh to north. 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: In other words, we tend to align structures. Our cities 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: are ceremonial sites, sacred sites. We tend to align them north, southeast, 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: and west. And so previously, when the pole was in 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: a different position, when these sites were built, they were 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: aligned to north. But with the pole shift and um, 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the rotation, and they're now misaligned. UM. And so what 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: happens is, as you go back in time, you find 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: sites that are incredibly sophisticated. Uh. You know, archaeologists would 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: say beyond uh. Well, they would attempt to explain them 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: in terms of uh, say the technology of the Incas 36 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: or the Egyptians, but you know, oftentimes UH, they're unable 37 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: to really come up with a plausible explanation. It appears 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: that there's some technology that you know, exceeds the capabilities 39 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: of the time of the Egyptians, of the Incas um uh. 40 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: And so forth and as you go farther back in time, 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: the oldest structures are structures such as those that Machapchu, Tambo, 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: um Um and uh also sites in uh In in 43 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: uh in Europe, uh in the UH sites like um 44 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Um ball Back and and um, the structures at Petra 45 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: um in Jordan's and um and Canosos in crete. What 46 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: about gold Beckley TEPPI, Well, that's that's sort of what 47 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: kicks kicks This often a sense that you know, this 48 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: is sort of the this is now a pretty solid 49 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: finding that's ten thousand BC, and it's coming around the 50 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: time that primitive hunter gatherers are just beginning to domesticate 51 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: corn and wheat. So it's like, how could this possibly 52 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: be UM that doesn't have go packy Pepe, doesn't have 53 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: the same sort of geometry that these other sites have. UM. 54 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: When I'm looking at with these other sites are rectangular 55 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: structures or alignments that are that can be clearly measured 56 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and correlated to a two accompassed it to a direction. 57 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: And when these pull shifts happened, mark, are they violently 58 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: fast or is it done over hundreds, if not thousands 59 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: of years? Okay, So, so the scientific evidence for pole 60 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: shifts is that several and basedly this is based on 61 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: what's called paleomagnetic data UM and we can get into 62 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: that I supposed we have time. But the ideas that 63 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: UM UH many hundreds of millions of years ago. In fact, 64 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: around the time of the Cambrian explosion, about five hundred 65 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: million years ago, there was a major rotation of the 66 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Earth ninety degrees. And this is respons this is responsible 67 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: for all the changes that took place or or a 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: contributor to the changes that took place UM on the 69 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: planet at the time. UM and based on the pale 70 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: paleo magnetic data, this was a change that took quite 71 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: some time. UH took many millions of years to occur. 72 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: But now jumping you know, fast forwarding talk, we're talking 73 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: about smaller, more recent poll shifts. And if you believe 74 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Plato as a take it literally as as a source 75 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: of historical facts, these shifts were rapid and and and cataclysmic, 76 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: causing floods, volcanic eruptions and so forth. So the hypothesis 77 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and before Atlantis, is that these more recent poll ships 78 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: we're we're rather rapid and did cause the mayhem and 79 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: the destruction that occurred at the time that is, you know, 80 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: recorded in an ancient legend and myth. So what you 81 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: surmise in your book was that there was something pretty dramatic, 82 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: uh in terms of technology before Atlantis. If so, where 83 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: might that have been? So? So the the the the 84 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: evidence is these these incredible structures that we find throughout 85 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: the world, these stones that are massive, hundreds hundreds of tons, 86 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: worked with incredible precision UM. And you know, these are 87 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: these discoveries are well known, you know, and I'm sure 88 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you've had numerous people on the show talking about them, 89 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: comparing them, you know, sort of just the style, the 90 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: way the stones will work, the level of technology. What 91 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: I've been able to show in this book is that 92 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: these these stones were assembled into structures that point in 93 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: directions that correlate with previous locations of the North Pole. 94 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: And there's it's not just one or two sites. There's 95 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: over fifty sites and their major sites uh and many 96 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: of them are these enigmatic sites with these Siteclopean stones. 97 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: So they can't figure out who built them, how are 98 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: they actually assembled, transported, erected, uh crafted um. But what 99 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: what what? These sites are not currently aligned to north 100 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and so the hypothesis is that these sites because they 101 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: were previously they were built when the pole was in 102 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: an earlier position and they were aligned to north or 103 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: misaligned now because of these shifts. And so if we 104 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: can use the climate information that Halfgood used in dating 105 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: these poles to say, okay, now these poles are fifty 106 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: thousand or hundred thousand years old, and these sites aligned 107 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: to those poles, and then those sites by association or 108 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: inference must similarly be fifty or hundred thousand years old. 109 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: And so the technology is what we see on the ground. 110 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: It's it's what's left, it's it's it's these stone structures 111 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: that that defy explanation. UM. So you know, the book 112 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything really to say on how it was, 113 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: how it was done. We I speculate a little bit 114 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: about who it might have been. UM. But I think 115 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: establishing that it that these sites are incredibly old is 116 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: an important first step, and it takes us beyond this. 117 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's this sort of ten thousand years thing 118 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: going back to UM, you know, to zep Tepi and 119 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: and things that you know might have taken place soon 120 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: after UM. You know, the the last quote unquote flood 121 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: or if you're using the pole shift hypothesis, after the 122 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: last pole shift from Hudson Bay to the current location, 123 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: but that takes you it takes you to Atlantis. With 124 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: two more pole ships, you can actually go before Atlantis 125 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: and now actually see a pattern that's not just sites 126 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: aligned to that Hudson Bay pole, but sites aligned to 127 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: a pole in uh in the Norway Sea, in Greenland, 128 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and in in the Bearing Sea. These are refined pole 129 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: locations that I came up with that are close to 130 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: half goods, but I've been able to refine them using 131 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: the site information. Is actually I have a technical paper 132 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: coming out on this um in the spring, but all 133 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: the results are in the book and they're all you know, 134 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: pictures and maps and graphics pretty clearly. Some people believe 135 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Mark that we are the Martians. Is that anything close 136 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: to your equation? You know, George, I never found anything 137 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: UM that I could say, you know, definitively that yes, 138 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: there are e t s or aliens. You know, there's 139 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: so much circumstantial evidence. But it was when I started 140 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: off on this, you know, the the implication. You know 141 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot of people in the past, 142 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: and it began with Bondane again with the ancient astronaut 143 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: theory was only ancient astronauts had the technology to do this, 144 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: and um, so I wondered, you know, we we just 145 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: had are it's sort of all these incidences. We had 146 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: just done our DNA testing and you know that whole 147 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: it's fault based on the out of Africa theory that 148 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, modern humans emerged out of Africa about seventy 149 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and by tracing the genetic changes you 150 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: can determine your lineage and all this other other information 151 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: and um so um. Rather than looking at extraterrestrial hypothesis, 152 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: I thought I'd try something a little different. It's like, 153 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: what about an earlier migration of humans out of Africa? Uh? 154 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: You know the uh this UM And you know now 155 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: the current theory is that there were earlier migrations, um. 156 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: And these earlier migrations led to the Neanderthals and to 157 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the deniss events. And so it's like perhaps these earlier people, um, 158 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: were who had hundreds of thousands of years to develop, 159 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Perhaps they developed a technological civilization. I mean we have 160 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: perhaps they did as well, and perhaps developing us on Earth. 161 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: They were the ones that were responsible for these earlier 162 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: structure and and ours is only two thousand years old, 163 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: so imagine what theirs could have been exactly exactly. Uh 164 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: So this led me sort of in a different direction. 165 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: So maybe the Martians were us. I don't know, that 166 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: could be that, that could very well be. Listen to 167 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: more Coast to Coast a m every weeknight at one 168 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am 169 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: dot com for more