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Speaker 1: before the draft. We get a quick lott to hit

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Speaker 1: to me, Cavon Thibodeaux was the best player in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I didn't buy into any of this lack of daisical

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Speaker 1: And to me, Evan Neil is a guy that checked

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Speaker 1: You've got the weapons, you've got the playmakers, you've got

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Speaker 1: I mean at the linebacker position, he's gonna really have

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Speaker 1: to earn his keep. Well, of course there's a sixth

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Speaker 1: round pick. Rick. You gotta play well on special teams, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you gotta do, and then working

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Speaker 1: way onto the field on defense. Al Right, final player

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Speaker 1: we haven't touched on yet, d J. Davidson into your

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman at Arizona State Rock. What do you think

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Speaker 1: two down player? You know, uh, first and second down

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Speaker 1: run stuffer. You know, maybe you move them around the

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Speaker 1: gap stare up front, but he he lets others make plays,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna eat up space, he's gonna stuff the run.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna open up the lanes for the linebackers that

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Speaker 1: we just talked about to run through. And so you're

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Speaker 1: getting somebody who's sec battle tested and approven power five commodity,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's going to be a specialist. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's a very specific role, a two down player, and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. On Day three of the draft,

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Speaker 1: so at one point, you know, he was considered to

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Speaker 1: get him in the back end of Day three. I

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Speaker 1: think it was solid value, excellent all right. And obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Giants haven't announced on the undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agency are reports out there obviously, and basically again because

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Speaker 1: we're not endorsing these, we're not saying it's official. But like,

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Speaker 1: I know, some of those names did catch your eye

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Speaker 1: that you want to kind of bring up with those today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the depth of this draft

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Speaker 1: twice as many players in the draft pool, which means

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Speaker 1: what a lot of these draftable grades kind of slid

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Speaker 1: to the undrafted free agents a portion, and you know

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Speaker 1: they all have a wart for some reason or another.

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Speaker 1: But they also some of these guys like Jeremiah Hall,

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Speaker 1: the fullback at Oklahoma. He's just the nasty blocking fullback.

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Speaker 1: He can catch the ball out of the backfield a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So the Giants haven't had somebody like that

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Speaker 1: and quite some time. I'm excited to see if he

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Speaker 1: can earn his keep on the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: Austin Allen out of Nebraska just a big tree trunk

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Speaker 1: tight end. You see this kind of evolving tight end

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Speaker 1: position in the NFL. Everybody's looking for this big, tall

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Speaker 1: pass catcher. You know, you're not used to seeing corn

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Speaker 1: Huskers lead the team and receiving. This guy, he's a

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Speaker 1: red zone threat. Another player we had out at the

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Speaker 1: NFL p A Bowl who just made splash plays. Showed

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Speaker 1: up all week during practice with highlight real grabs and

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Speaker 1: one handed catches and down big six ft seven Now,

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Speaker 1: he ran a terrible forty yard dash time. But I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this He plays much faster than his forties suggests.

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Speaker 1: I think Austin Allen's the guy who could fit in.

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Speaker 1: We talked about haul in the back, but how about

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Speaker 1: Joshua Corbin. Did anybody watched the East West Shrine ball?

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Speaker 1: This guy was arguably the best running back down there

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Speaker 1: at the East West Shrine out of Florida State. He's

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Speaker 1: got some juice to him now. He can make you

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Speaker 1: miss in open field. He could do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of everything. Joshua Corbin, I think has a really good

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Speaker 1: shot to earn a spot on the Giants backfield. Um,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Dane Belton and there there would be

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Speaker 1: some competition. Brandon Easterling out of Dayton is flying under

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Speaker 1: the radar. Small school kid again. Safety versatility brings much

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Speaker 1: bigger length. He's like six ft three, six ft four.

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Speaker 1: He'll compete with Trenton Thompson San Diego State. I get

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Speaker 1: back to the wishing well. There another lengthy safety who

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Speaker 1: has some versatility. And two more I want to touch

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Speaker 1: base on that. I'm hearing. You know, not too many guys,

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Speaker 1: not too many Northeast scouts get up to Maine. Andre

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Speaker 1: Miller is a wide out now now played in a

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Speaker 1: high octane offense. This this offense was averaging over five

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Speaker 1: yards and fifty points a game. And it evolved around

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Speaker 1: Andre Miller, remember that name. He's gonna be competing for

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Speaker 1: a roster spot. And Matt Allen out of Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: The Spartans for a long time have been churning out quality,

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Speaker 1: fundamentally sound offensive line technicians. That's what Matt Allen is.

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Speaker 1: And he's one of these Super six senior guys. He's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more polished than your average offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: coming out. He's played tackle, he's played guard. I actually

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Speaker 1: like him best at center, believe it or not. So

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Speaker 1: just the storylines to keep an eye on. Come training camp.

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Speaker 1: Great good stuff. Man, Tell the folks where they can

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Speaker 1: find all your work. Yeah, we're over at NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: Bible dot com. We partnered up with Sports Illustrated, so

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Speaker 1: you can find us over there. We've got post draft reaction.

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Speaker 1: We're Ontoe now John and turning the page. We got

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Speaker 1: the mock draft ready and best available players already looking

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Speaker 1: ahead to next year. So it's a NonStop, can't stop,

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Speaker 1: won't stop situation over here at the NFL Draft Bible.

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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned at the top of the show man,

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Speaker 1: We've been We've been coming on your show for over

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Speaker 1: the last ten years or so. Always an honor, always

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Speaker 1: a privilege. And uh tell Paulie I said, hello, love

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Speaker 1: getting the inside scoop. Nobody has their finger on the

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Speaker 1: pulse like you guys, So I do tune in. I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan as well as a as a guest of

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Speaker 1: the show. No, Rick, I appreciate. I will send that along.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you talk about that, we have

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Speaker 1: we have a caller from Maine that's been asking us

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Speaker 1: about main prospects. He's to be so happy. You mentioned, uh,

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Speaker 1: you got you got about sixty seconds here real quick.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned your three give me a taste, just a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a taste. What the class is gonna

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Speaker 1: profile like, Yeah, we're gonna get back to regularity, which

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Speaker 1: means quarterbacks flying off the board early and often. I

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Speaker 1: have five and going off the board in my top picks.

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Speaker 1: Rice Young out of Alabama. C J. Stroud of out

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Speaker 1: of Ohio State, Will Levis to Kentucky, Anthony Richardson from

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Speaker 1: Florida's gonna shoot up boards, Tyler Van Dyke out of Miami.

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Speaker 1: Those are five signal callers to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: And then you think Trayvon Walker and Jordan Davis got

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Speaker 1: the goods, wait until you see this one. Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: out of Georgia. Him and Will Anderson, the edge rusher

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Speaker 1: from Alabama. Those are probably your top two defensive prospects.

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Speaker 1: So again, edge rushers coming off the board, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see the return back two quarterbacks. Finally, I was

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Speaker 1: watching all those Georgia defensive players and all I kept saying,

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Speaker 1: who the hell is number eighty eight? Holy cow, he

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Speaker 1: is a monster. So I look forward to study again

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Speaker 1: next year. Thanks a lot right now, We appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time as always. Thank you, John Rick Sarra tell NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft Bible. Thanks you being with us in the John

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Speaker 1: Settle Podcast. We'll see you next time. Everybody,