1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: DJ, Buck with you. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: And by the looks of it, Buck, you are in 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: the friendly confines of NFL studios. There. How you doing. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm good. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: I've decided to get out of the home office one 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: to get back into the studio. Have a little different energy, 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: a little Bob. Because we're getting close to the playoffs. DJ, 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: it matters, so you got to take our game. We 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: gotta take the game up of notes. 12 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot, I'm gonna be in there. I'll be in 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: there a week from today. And I don't know are 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: you Are you scheduled? Are you going to be in 15 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: there Monday? 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to check the schedule. 17 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Artists and the artist formally known as black Monday. I 18 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: don't know what we call it now. There's a new 19 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: fancy term for it, but not a negative connotation. Sure, 20 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: everybody's getting fired today, but let's not let's not make 21 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: this a negative show. But that's yeah, is what it is. 22 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Le's out. Let's look at the playoffs and then, oh, 23 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: by the way, there's all these guys that got fired 24 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about that as well. Anyways, well, Chance will 25 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: be together in studio next week. We've got a bunch 26 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: of games to get to as well as I have 27 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: a college topic I want to hit you on draft 28 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: related as we get towards the end of the show here. 29 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: But I want to start off first of all with 30 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: a game that sets the stage for what will be 31 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine one of the biggest end of the 32 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: year contests that you can ever remember, and that is 33 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings holding off the Green Bay Packers. They 34 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: won twenty seven to twenty five, which now sets up 35 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: a one or five game right next week. We've got 36 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Detroit welcoming in Minnesota. Winner. Congratulations the whole kitten Kabodle. 37 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: You're the number one seed loser. Yeah, no home game 38 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: for you. You're the five seed and you're going on the 39 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: road next week. So the stage is set for next week. 40 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: But before we. 41 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Get to that, Buck, what'd you think of this ballgame? 42 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: Man, the Minnesota Vikings. I will say this because that's 43 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: to start with the quarterback. Like for so long we've 44 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: touted on this show to three p's and how it's 45 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: important to the success of the quarterback we talk about 46 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: the play caller, the playmakers, and then the past protectors, 47 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: and when I look at Sam Donald's success, it's just 48 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: confirmation that that formula, that recipe remains true. When it 49 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: comes up to quarterback play, Sam Donald looks like a 50 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: different player in Minnesota. Kevin O'Connell has done a really 51 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: good job of setting him up for success, and watching 52 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: the game with Tom Brady on the call, you see 53 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: the subtle areas in which Sam Donald has improved the 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings, Like no one really talks about them being 55 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: a legit title contender because there's just I guess waiting 56 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: to exhale moment when it comes to Sam Donald. But 57 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: DJ He's put up so many solid games consistently that 58 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: I think you have to begin to think that this 59 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: team is legit. And we'll get a chance to see 60 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: how legit they are next weekend. 61 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Here's this theory. Give me your thoughts on this one, 62 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: because I think the Packers have built one of the 63 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: deepest rosters literally across the board. There's depth everywhere. They 64 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: have so much depth on this team. But I just 65 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: think like as we look forward and going into the postseason, 66 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I feel like depth can take a little bit of 67 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: a back seat. It's always similar to baseball, right where 68 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: it's about your front end. 69 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Guys. 70 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: You don't need your four and five starters in the postseason. 71 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: For baseball, it's whoever your top horses are. I'm watching 72 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: this ball and I was like you, I said, had 73 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: a chance to be home and actually on a Sunday 74 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: and sit and watch an entire ballgame and listen to Brady. 75 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: It was a fun watch. But I was just struck 76 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: by the fact that, yeah, these are both really good teams, 77 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: but one just has stars, Like there are stars in 78 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Sam is quickly emerging into one. But I 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: mean you just look around the field and they've got impact, 80 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: impact dudes, especially on the offensive side. 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you talk about the star power because 82 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: that's the difference between what I would say good and great. 83 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: I believe the Minnesota Vikings are a great team. 84 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers are a good team, and when 85 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: everyone is on the same page, yeah they can play 86 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: great at times. But Minnesota is great, and they're great 87 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: because of the star power on the outside, justin Jefferson 88 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: and Jordan Addison. I'm gonna save Jordan Adison is a star. 89 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: That route that he ran for the touchdown that Sam 90 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: dropped a dime on right there, that was star quality. 91 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: Then on defense, they have guys that play at a 92 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: high level, the stars, and ultimately, in big games, in 93 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: playoff games, your stars have to carry you over the threshold. 94 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: And when you look at the Minnesota Vikings, you can. 95 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: See a path to Super Bowl to the super Bowl 96 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: because they have enough stars that can carry them over 97 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: the threshold. 98 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: One thing, you know, looking at some of these clips, 99 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of what a incredible pivot by the entire organization. 100 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: QUESSI leading the charge there. But when you lose Darrisaw, 101 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: who's you know, one of the five best left tackles 102 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they go to your Jags and 103 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: they end up getting Cam Robinson buck I'd have to 104 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: look at his contract to see. I think he's a 105 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: free agent after this show. Is he's going to cash in? 106 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: He is going to cash in the way that he's 107 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: played coming down the home stretch here. 108 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you what I learned about watching 109 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: the Cam Robinson thing. And this is why we talk 110 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: about environment. Culture is the buzzword that people talk about. 111 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: People change in based on their environment. The environment in 112 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: Minnesota is one that has maybe a little more accountability, 113 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: Maybe the expectations are greater because this is a team 114 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: that is actually vying for a title. Cam Robinson has 115 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: kind of risen to the level of expectation and his 116 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: performance is certainly proved and he has given them a 117 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: really high quality player at left tackle as a replacement. 118 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: Now he's going to command major dollar. I think it's 119 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: been a boom for his free agency status. He is 120 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: going to make more money than he would have made 121 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: if he had just finished the season in Jacksonville. But 122 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: it's a lesson in terms of like high levels of accountability, 123 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: high standards that come with championship level teams. Man, they 124 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: can bring out the best in some people because they 125 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: demand more and they expect more from them. 126 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Mackay Beckton with the philadelph Eagles another one, you know, 127 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: having kind of flamed out with the New York Jets, 128 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: an organization that was a mess. I think there's lots 129 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: of examples of that. It's a great point, you know, 130 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: example of the culture. The video and the footage from 131 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: the locker room in Minnesota after the ball believable. Like 132 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, I'm not exaggering like some goosebump 133 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: type stuff. You see just how how this team has 134 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, welcomed in Sam Donald embraced him, and you 135 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: mentioned all the support on the field with the playmakers, 136 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: the protection, the play colors, all those things, but just 137 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the missing ingredient to there was just 138 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: some love. I mean, this entire organization has loved on him. 139 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell uses that word love a lot. He used 140 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: it when he was talking about Acres cam akers after 141 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: the ballgame. I just think, I don't know, if I 142 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: don't know, if you can find You talked about Detroit 143 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: being a model. You know, it's why it's going to 144 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: be such a big game man coming up this next week. 145 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Detroit's model and also Minnesota in terms of the leadership, 146 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: general manager, head coach, and the environment and the culture 147 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: that's just brought these guys all together. It's pretty awesome. 148 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: It is pretty awesome. 149 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: DJ and we talk about like want and a half 150 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: teams that operate at a championship level, and the thing 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: that you're seeing from the top teams is there is 152 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: an alignment from top to bottom, all the way down 153 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: from ownership, to the management team, to the coaching staff. 154 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: Everyone has the same set of values and that allows 155 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: everyone to kind of walk the same path together. And 156 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: when I look at Minnesota and I look at how 157 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: they're able to take these players in and how they 158 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: play and perform with together, and how I'll say this, 159 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: Kevin o connell doing a really good job of making 160 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: it a player's first environment while also embracing the team. 161 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: Sam Donald being hoisted on shoulders, all of that talks about. 162 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: It speaks to the love and the just a caring 163 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: and consideration that these guys have for one another. The 164 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: best teams are the most connected teams, and you can 165 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: see the connectivity in the chemistry amongst the vikings when 166 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: you see that little scene in the locker room. 167 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'll get us to the second game on that thought, 168 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: because what Washington has done and their transformation was on 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: full display in the Sunday night ball game against Atlanta Falcons. 170 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: A great game, and we'll get to Penix and a 171 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: lot of the exciting things we saw from him, including 172 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: just an absolute seed to extend this ball game. But 173 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels with his arm, with his legs outstanding this team. 174 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I kind of look, I have to admit, hol you know, 175 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: raise my hand up and say I was wrong about this. 176 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: They brought in so many of these older veterans, zach 177 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Ertz being one of them, and I was like, man, 178 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything left with some of 179 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, And turns out this is this 180 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: is Adam Peters understanding the value having kind of these 181 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: these culture guys and these kind of guys who just 182 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of raised the level of focus and intensity. And 183 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: zach Ertz showed you in this ball game and a 184 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: you know game you gotta have, they're still a little 185 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: bit left in the tank as well. 186 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ, I think it comes down to relationships, and 187 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: that might be the theme of twenty twenty four, the 188 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: importance of relationships and team building. You think about zach 189 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: Ertz and having spent time working and playing on the 190 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 3: cliff Kingsburg so Kingsbury can vouch for him. You think 191 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: about Bobby Wagner and Dorence Armstrong and some of the 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: guys Dante Fowler coming over from the Dallas Cowboys because 193 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: dan Quinn has a relationship with them. All of these 194 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: relationships are important because when you're bringing older guys. In 195 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: sometimes it's about the talent. A lot of times it's 196 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: about the teaching in terms of them teaching the younger 197 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: guys how the culture is supposed to be, how you're 198 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: supposed to prepare and play as professionals. All of that 199 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: stuff goes. But let's be real, they knocked it out 200 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: the park with the quarterback Jade and Daniels. The maturity, uh, 201 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: the leadership, the poise, the playmaking. All of that combined 202 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: with the veteran leadership has had the Commanders reverse their 203 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: fortunes in a quick turnaround. 204 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: On to Adam Peters and Dan Quinn. 205 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've seen some you know, awesome rookie 206 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: performances at quarterback the last few years. I mean c J. 207 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: Stroud last year was incredible what he accomplished, I would 208 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: say with Jaden because of what he can bring with 209 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: his legs. He's brought that same level of poise and 210 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: like the low heartbeat in the passing game. But then 211 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, he can run for hundred 212 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: yards if you need him to. 213 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 214 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: And on Keith third downs, you've got a playbook that's 215 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: five inches thick, uh that you can go to including 216 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: an under center quarterback Counter, which I hadn't know if 217 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: I've ever seen that Bacon Bacon and around and they 218 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: were in quarterback Counter. I was like, geez, but that's 219 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: what you know. Like that play like that expands the 220 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: playbook man. 221 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: He does explain the playbook, and Cliff Kingsbury has done 222 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: a really good job of putting them in situations where 223 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: they're able to run it. But I feel like, very 224 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: similar to the way Lamar Jackson runs, I feel like 225 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: all of the runs that Jayden takes on are kind 226 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: of protected runs, meaning he always has a convoy with him, 227 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: he always has an escort, or he's near the sideline 228 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: and you don't really see him take a wicked shot. 229 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson has a sixth sense when it comes to 230 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: not taking a big hit. Jayden Daniels has some of that, 231 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: and I was worried about that watching him come out 232 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: of LSU. Kingsbury at offensive to have done a really 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: good job of really taking advantage of a I would 234 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: say an underrated skill that he brought to the table 235 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: is one of the reasons why the Commander's offense is 236 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: really a headache to the fen and it's only going 237 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: to get better as they continue to surround them with 238 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: a level players. 239 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he took some blow up shots in college, blowing 240 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: yard sale type shots, yes, yeah, taking those man. He 241 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: And the other thing is I brought this up in 242 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: the draft process was one of the things about that 243 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: and I said it with Bryce Young too, because people 244 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: were worried about his side and how we hold up. 245 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I put clips together and showed all 246 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: these huge shots that they took where they were no flags. 247 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: In the SEC. I'm like, look, SEC is, you know, 248 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: has proven itself. It's been the best conference of the 249 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: most players it is. It is a more physical brand 250 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: of football in the SEC than it is in the NFL. People, 251 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. They're bigger, faster, stronger than the NFL. Like, yeah, 252 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: the referees, the officials don't protect them in the SEC 253 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: like you get protected in the NFL. So a lot 254 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: of those blow up shots he was taken, which would 255 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: have been flags and in some cases maybe even injections 256 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. These NFL players are pros, they've been trained. 257 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: They don't you don't get as many of those type 258 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: of hits. So that's one thing. The other thing I 259 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: would say, is this is going to age. Well, a 260 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: lot of times you get quarterbacks that can run like Jayden. 261 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, well, once the legs go, what are 262 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: you left with? 263 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: No? 264 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no. He can win from the pocket, he 265 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: can read things out, he can get it through progressions. 266 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: This is just a nice bonus he has while he's young, 267 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: and when he gets older, he's going to be able 268 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: to beat you right in the cockpit. He's not gonna 269 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: need his legs. So he's an exciting player, man. 270 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: The exciting player. 271 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: And you can see the many you can already envision 272 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: the many iterations of the Commander's offense with him at quarterback. 273 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: You can see them transitioning from what they're doing in 274 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: the gun to being a more under center offense and 275 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: using the stretched bootleg combination stuff as he gets older. 276 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: What we love, and. 277 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: We've said this because I think Brian Billikett has said 278 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 3: that what I want is I want a quarterback who's athletic. 279 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: I don't want necessarily an athlete who's playing quarterback. And 280 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: there's a subtle difference in that because Jayden Daniels is 281 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: a quarterback who can do all the things that you 282 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: want to see from the pocket, but he gives you 283 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: the bonus athleticism that allows you to utilize him in 284 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: the run game. That's the way the game is trending, 285 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: and we're seeing more and more of those guys kind 286 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: of make their way into the league and have a 287 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: lot of success. 288 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need the I'm gonna need our guys to 289 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: go through the archive and find the exo of Pennix 290 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: when he was coming out that I did when he 291 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: was going to the draft, because the throw that he 292 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: made against Texas in that semi final game, you remember, 293 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: it was an end cut and it was like that 294 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: ball I mean it had it was three feet off 295 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: the ground. It was just an absolute seed. It was 296 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the same exact throw. It's a little different route, but 297 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: the same exact throw in this one to tie the 298 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: ballgame late to Kyle Pitts. Where there's I mean that 299 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: stuff to get excited about, because that is that is elite, leady, 300 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: leady lead arm strength there from Pennix. 301 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: DJ And now I can say this is because I 302 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: had a little preview. 303 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: The Jaguars played the Falcons in the preseason, and though 304 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: Michael Pennick didn't play, you had a chance to see 305 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: him work out and to just say, the ball spins differently, 306 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: it jumps off his hand differently than Kirk Cousins. You 307 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: could feel that and what I'll say like it was 308 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: a late move to give him the starting job at 309 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: this stage of the season, but you could see why 310 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: they felt like it would give their offense more juice. 311 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the party, Kyle Pits. Appreciate you showing 312 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: up because Michael Pennix can get you the ball lick 313 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: at Drake London, make him plays Oh, Donnielle Mooney gonna 314 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: push it down the field to you. 315 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: And even though the. 316 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: Completion percentage wasn't exactly what you wanted, there are enough 317 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 3: flashes for you to get excited about. If you're Atlanta 318 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: Falcons fan and you feel an Atlanta Falcons coaching staff, 319 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: there are some things that you can do to really 320 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: take this offense to the next level. 321 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: With Michael PENNOCKX on the center. 322 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the exciting thing to me, and we talked about 323 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: it previously, was you know they got a solid offensive line. 324 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Continue to invest in that because if you can, if 325 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: you can give him protection and allow him to get 326 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the ball vertical down the field, and I'm talking about 327 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: like I want you can run old school like nineteen 328 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: nineties era come back. Yeah, fuck, you know back from 329 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: well you remember that. I mean DJ he threw it 330 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: like that last drive when they needed one. It was 331 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: a third and something. He threw like a fifteen yard 332 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: comeback right on the boundary and I'm like, man, that's 333 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: a smoking throw and having b Jon Robinson, like what 334 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: it does is there's a comfort of always being able 335 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to run the football. 336 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: But it's also b Jon Robinson. He missed him on 337 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: a slant and go. 338 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: And we talked about Bjon rob and being one of 339 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: these seven h seven running backs that is a running back, 340 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: but really he's a wide out on the perimeter. Like 341 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: you can just see the imagination and the creativity that 342 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: Zach Robinson wants to put on this playbook with the 343 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: pieces that he has at his disposal, with this kind 344 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: of quarterback available. 345 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: All Right, We've tracked down the XO book because I 346 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta show you this. Do you remember this, 347 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: because I know you've seen this before, but I'm just 348 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: watching this. These are these throws against Texas. So the 349 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: first one is just that you know, deep post where 350 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: he kind of puts a bunch of air underneath it. 351 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: There's some examples of him moving around in the pocket. Again, 352 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: this Texas game showed you kind of everything you needed. 353 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Then another absolute missile to Roma Donsday can drop the 354 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: ball in the bucket over the top. Yeah, just a 355 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: beautiful ball. But this, this is the drive throw that 356 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: we saw for the game winner. This is the exact 357 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: same looking throw. Look at this throw, boom buck it's 358 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: between it beats the it beats the help defender like 359 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: it's just an absolute seed. It was the same exact thing. 360 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: So, I don't know. 361 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I always find when you're watching these guys play an 362 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: NFL field, then you're like, well, how does things translate? Well, 363 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I saw that exact same throw work in college, and 364 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: I guess what it works in the NFL too. 365 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: Man, you talk about an exciting time to see some 366 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: of these young quarterbacks, Jade and Daniels and those guys 367 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: go at it, Jay and Daniels, Michael Pennix, seeing them 368 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 3: play in a primetime game and really play up to expectation. 369 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: Even though Michael Penix didn't have a lot of experience, 370 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, man, the Atlanta fal. 371 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: Because you have to be excited about it. 372 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: You got to figure out a way to get into 373 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: the postseason tournament because I want to see more of 374 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: Michael Pennox in this offense. 375 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: This chance. We might have to wait, might have to 376 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: wait for next year on that one, but it makes 377 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: the off season a lot more fun. 378 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: No one. 379 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: You can build around him and then they'll move on 380 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: from Kirk Cousins and see where he lands next. That win, 381 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: by the way it gave, it helped clinch. I shouldn't 382 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: say gave because that implies that the Rams didn't earn it. 383 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: The Rams have played great football and now they can 384 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: say that they are the champions of the NFC West. 385 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: They won kind of an ugly street fight game against 386 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, but that win combined with what we saw 387 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: in that game and wash and winning, now the Rams 388 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: have won the NFC West nine and two since the 389 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: bye week. 390 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: Book, you know, DJ, I want to stand up and 391 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: give Sean McVay a standing ovation for the coaching job 392 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: that he's done. The last two years, his teams have 393 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: stumbled out the gate, but somehow he has been able 394 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: to keep it together. This team started out one in four, 395 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: had a losing record at the bye week, but he 396 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: found a way to get them back on track. And 397 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, man, what They've won nine up 398 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: their last eleven games, and they're doing it playing complimentary ball. 399 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: When we think about the Rams, it's quick to think 400 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: about Matthew Stafford and Puka Naku and Cooper Cup, but 401 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: it's really all of the pieces of the puzzle that 402 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: are really working together. It's the running game being allowing 403 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: them to control the game and manage the clock. Is 404 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: Pookah and Cooper being able to make big plays when 405 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: they need it on third downs. It's Matthew Stafford being 406 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: the playmaking quarterback that can win in the clutch, and 407 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: then defensively, they're so opportunistic when it comes to making 408 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: the clutch plays. This is a very difficult team to face, 409 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: and I would say they may not have the highest 410 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: selling of the playoff participants, but man, that floor, that 411 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: is a high floor. And if you don't play a 412 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: solid game against the Rams, the Rams can knock you 413 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: off because they've won so many of these one score 414 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: games down the stretch. 415 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dangerous It's a dangerous group for sure, 416 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see Matthew Stafford in the postseason 417 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: where he can just cut it loose. This was a 418 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: game where defensively that took care of it. Did see 419 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: some good things. By the way, I want to give 420 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison some love. He did have it one of 421 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: his better games. And what do you know, Bucket was 422 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: on crossers and on the move, not asking him to 423 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: gear down something he's not. 424 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: What a novel concept, big play, big big body guy. 425 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: Let's speak cut him, Let's not stop and startom because 426 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: that's not what they're ailing to do. 427 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: No, that's not him. But anyways, a nice, nice win 428 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: for the Rams, and they are in the tournament, a 429 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: team that will be a dangerous team to go up 430 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: against for sure. All Right, that's a few ball games 431 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: right there. We've got plenty more to get to. We'll 432 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: get to that right after this, all right, buck not 433 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: the most exciting division in the NFL with the NFC South, 434 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: but Carolina Tampa Bay. I think there's reasons to be 435 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: excited for both ball clubs. Obviously more excited about Tampa 436 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: when you look to score this thing forty eight to fourteen. 437 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: But we still saw some good things from Bryce Young 438 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: as he continues to play good football coming down the 439 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: home stretch here. But let's stick with Tampa right back 440 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: in the mix now due to Atlanta losing, they kind 441 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: of control their fate. Now they just need to win 442 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: against the Saints. I would say that shouldn't be difficult, 443 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: but you never know what can happen here when there 444 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: puts them in And that's a team with Baker Mayfield 445 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: playing lights out right now. 446 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: Playing lights out, and Bak is another case study in 447 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: terms of quarterbacks and what quarterbacks need to be successful. 448 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: When you think about Liam Cohen and what they've been 449 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: able to build in Tampa Bay, you think about what 450 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: they have around them. You have Mike Evans, you look 451 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: a nice combo in the backfield with White and Irvin. 452 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: They have a lot of play around him. But let's 453 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: also give him. 454 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: Credit for the way that he has really been able 455 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: to flourish within this system. Less is more when it 456 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: comes to Baker Mayfield. But when you throw for three 457 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty plus yards five touchdowns and you have 458 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: the rhythm going like he hasn't. We have seen a 459 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: Buccaneers team and an offense that look, it's kind of 460 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: left for dead when Chris Godwin got hurt. They have 461 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 3: continued to light it up, and a lot of it 462 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: is due to the former number one overall pick playing 463 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: like a Pro Bowl player. 464 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Buck Irving had some nice runs as well. I 465 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: think he had four explosive runs in this game. So 466 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: he continues to do his thing playing at a high level. 467 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I was curious and look this up just while you 468 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: were talking there. So if you looked at the five 469 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks leading the NFL in yards right now, Joe Burrow 470 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: is number one. Let me pull it up again here, 471 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: so you've got Joe Burrow is number one, obviously on 472 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: his original team. Baker Mayfield not his original team. Sam 473 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Darnold not his original team, Geno Smith not his original team, 474 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Jared Goff not his original team. So only one of 475 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: the top five quarterbacks in the NFL in terms of 476 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: yards is on his original team. So when we get 477 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: ready for the draft coming up here in the spring, 478 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: and we're looking at all these teams with quarterback needs 479 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: and we're gonna lament the fact that this draft is 480 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: not that deep, there is plenty to look at from 481 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: an example standpoint of being able to hit on guys 482 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: that sort of speak recycled through the program here. 483 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about finding the right fit, and you have 484 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: to understand exactly what you're looking for, and you have 485 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: to have an adaptable system that can work with various 486 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in terms of various playing styles and those things. 487 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield having success, to me goes 488 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: all the way back to an old thing that used 489 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: to be talked about in Green Bay when Rob Wolf 490 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: was general manager and he learned it from Al Davis. 491 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 3: Anytime someone is drafted as high as Donald and Baker 492 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: Mayfield were drafted, respectively, you always want to kick the 493 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: tires on them because the draft status speaks to their pedigree, 494 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: and the pedigree is about their talent and their potential. 495 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: And you always give those guys multiple bykes at the 496 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: apple because you're trying to find the right environment for 497 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: that talent. 498 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: To fully flourish. 499 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: And for Baker Mayfield, he has found that in Tampa. 500 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: Sam Donald has found that in Minnesota. But man, just 501 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: because it doesn't work the first spot, the second or 502 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: third spot could be the place where the talent finally 503 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: matches with the scheme and allows him to kind of 504 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: be the player that many of us Envision when we 505 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: were doing the pre draft process. 506 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's times you miss on guys and it's a 507 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: talent thing, right, There's just times where you go, oh, man, 508 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: you know what I didn't This guy just physically cannot 509 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: make the throws. He physically can't stay healthy. You know, 510 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: those are things where you're like, yeah, okay, I missed it. 511 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: And the other times like, look, this guy's got ability, 512 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: but it's not working out. Those are the guys you 513 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: want to try and you know, go find who guys 514 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: who have had moments like Baker Mayfield in Cleveland had moments, 515 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald had moments with the Jets. Like now, you 516 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: go through that whole process early on you never had 517 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: a moment, then you know, maybe you just missed on 518 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: the talent and maybe that's somebody like Josh Rosen just 519 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of the league, just kind of flushed right out 520 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: of the league. So but these guys that I all mentioned, 521 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Gino had his moment. You look at golf. Obviously going 522 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl showed you what he was capable of. 523 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: But I think there is a formula there, talent and 524 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: moments putting those together. 525 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I had an old scout used to talk 526 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: about grade to flashes. Man, When guys flash and they 527 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: pop on tape and they do it multiple times, like 528 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: you got a grade in there, because that shows you 529 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: that it can be done. Now, his job as the 530 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: player is to do it over and over and over again. 531 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: Your job as the executive, as the coach or whatever 532 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: is to put them in a situation where they can 533 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: repeat those flashes. We're seeing that with Baker Mayfield. It 534 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: has really worked for him in Tampa. And the thing 535 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: about it, the mature version of Baker Mayfield gives you 536 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: all of the stuff that you liked about him when 537 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: he was coming out of Oklahoma, the confidence, the brashness, 538 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: the boldness. But now he is doing it with emotional control, 539 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: and he's also doing it while displaying the leadership that 540 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: you love to see from your franchise quarterback. 541 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: No doubt, Buck. This would have been five six years ago, 542 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: somewhere around there. I was living in Marietta, California, and 543 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: there was a big high school playoff game that was 544 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: right across the street from my house. I knew they 545 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: had a quarterback that was kind of interesting that you 546 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: know that was playing in the games. Like I'm gonna 547 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: go watch this kid, just see what he is. So 548 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: I go out there, I'm watching the game. I text 549 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: David Shaw, who's the head coach at Stanford at the time. 550 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: I say, hey, are you on this this quarterback from Centennial. 551 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: He's big, he's athletic, like he's impressive, and he's like, no, 552 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: I think I think we have a shot at getting him. 553 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: I think we have a shot at getting him. So, 554 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: long story short, he does end up going to Stanford. 555 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: Kind of lost tracking over the years, and then I'm 556 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: just you know, I think I was watching the red 557 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: zone at this time, and then all of a sudden, 558 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles popped on. I'm like, hey, it's Tanner McKee. 559 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: That's the kid that I that I watched in high school. 560 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: I didn't even have totally forgot he was playing the Eagles, 561 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: to be totally honest with you. Over the years got 562 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: out there after Kenny Pickett got hurt and played quite 563 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: well on a day where Saquon Barkley, you know, racks 564 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: up two thousand yards. I thought it was it was 565 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: kind of cool to see the success of the run game, 566 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: while also, you know, organizationally, it's a it's a little 567 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, it's a little bit of 568 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: a proud moment when you're down to your third quarterback 569 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: and you're not skipping a beat. 570 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is great to see Tanner McKey. 571 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: I would say having been around Tanner McKey at the 572 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: Nike opening he was on our team and watching him grow, 573 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: and then watching him because you wouldn't see someone six ' 574 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: six play in a system like Corona Centennial where sometimes 575 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: they would run the quarterback, but he could do all 576 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: of those things. And following his career at Stanford and 577 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: watching him make his way to the league, you're very 578 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: excited about the fact that he was QB three, but 579 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: he could come in and have the success that he had. 580 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: For Saquon Barkley. 581 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: Man, this is everything that the Philadelphia Eagles could have 582 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: hoped for when they look made the move to swipe 583 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: their division rivals best player. Saquon Barkley comes in, puts 584 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: up two thousand rushing yards and they still have a 585 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: game to go. He does it while kind of taking 586 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: over and becoming the centerpiece of this offense. We all 587 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: wondered what he would look like behind a dominant offensive line. 588 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: We have to wonder no more because he is in 589 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: all timer when he's been able to play behind the 590 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles have to be excited about what 591 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: Barkley is done. And you rest him up, you get 592 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: him ready for the playoffs. Eagles offense looks good and 593 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: their defense is also coming along. 594 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: All right, This is just a free piece of advice. 595 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: Sit him next week. That chasing a record league, not 596 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: a sixteen game league. That changes the value of some 597 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: of these awards. And at the end of the records, 598 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, who cares two thousand yards? 599 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: You got check that box. Get rested up. You have 600 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: the number two seed. You're not gonna get a buy 601 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to turn and play. So no, put 602 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: those dudes on ice. That would be mead Well. 603 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: I think they've already let us know that they're gonnaut 604 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 3: him on ice because as soon as he got over 605 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: to two thousand yard mark, here we go, come on 606 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: ball cap. And I think it's smart because for the Eagles, 607 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley is the one that really creates all the 608 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: headache and heartbreak for defensive coordinators because you have to 609 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: account for him because he can beat you on the ground. 610 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: But now if you put too much attention on him. 611 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: That's when Aj Brown and DeVante Smith can get off. 612 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: He is essential for an essential piece to the championship puzzle. 613 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: That's why he has to be available in the postseason. 614 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: No sa Kwan, no work in week eighteen will condition 615 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: We'll do some other stuff. Get you on the staremaster, 616 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: get you ready, but we won't see you again to 617 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: the tournament starts. 618 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: I also want to mention one other connection in this game. 619 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: We saw it in one of those clips. Kellen Moore 620 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: on the sideline. Kellen Moore member with the Dallas Cowboys. 621 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Coach McCarthy wanted to take things over, so Kellen Moore goes. 622 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: He goes to the Chargers, you know, up and down there, 623 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: then comes to the Eagles. Now they are thirteen and three. 624 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: He's got a two thousand yard rusher. He's shown that 625 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: he can work with three different quarterbacks to find a 626 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: way to get the job done. He's you know, he's 627 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: he's done a really, really good job. It was just 628 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: interesting seeing him on the same column with the sideline 629 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: playing against the Cowboys. That had to be a little 630 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: bit of a sweet moment for him. As they clinched 631 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: the number two seed. 632 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: Well give him credit also because DJ like the running game. 633 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: Everyone always would talk about Kellen Moore in the passing 634 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: game and the creative shifts and those things, and how 635 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: he really helped Dak Prescott play well and that stuff. 636 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: But the running game and his ability to adapt and 637 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: to bring some things in that weren't really within his 638 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: comfort zone. He has been able to find a way 639 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: to unlock Jalen Hurst the last part of the season. 640 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: Getting back to the running game, what he was able 641 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: to do with Sakwan bark and not only as a 642 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 3: runner but as a receiver. The growth that he has shown, 643 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: I think he puts some more shine back on his name. 644 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: As we began to. 645 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: Think about who could be available in the coaching carousel 646 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: as a potential head coach. 647 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Chicago Bears would be an interesting one there 648 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: with Caleb. We'll see what happens. Some of these other 649 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: jobs that could pop that have some young talented quarterbacks. 650 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully Kellen Moore, we'll get some looks there. Denver Cincinnati, 651 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: what a game. I'll give you the scene. I'm on 652 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers plane. We're flying back that long flight from 653 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: New England, and that game is on the headrest, so 654 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: we had we had live TV on this flight, so 655 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: everybody in the whole plane is watching it, and you 656 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: it's in a fun experience to be with a team 657 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: who is somewhat impacted by this game, right because the 658 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos lose, that that is uh, you know, one 659 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. But more importantly, it's Cincinnati winning. 660 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Because Cincinnati now has everything to play for next week 661 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, they have a chance to still get into 662 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: the postseason. So if somehow Cincinnati were to beat the 663 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Steelers next week and the Chargers beat the Raiders, the 664 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Chargers would go to the five seed instead of the six, 665 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: which would mean going to Houston instead of potentially going 666 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. So anyway, I know you've been on those 667 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: planes too, Buck. It's always fun when you're on there 668 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: and people are reacting in real time to something that 669 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: could impact them. 670 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, real time, and Joe Burrow certainly gave them a 671 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: lot to react to. And DJ, I'm gonna say this 672 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: and my little piece of advice to Mike run and 673 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, keep them both. You got to find a 674 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: way to keep t Higgins and Jamar Chase and I 675 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: know we don't like to commit so much money to 676 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: one position, but man, when I just look at the 677 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: combo and how good they are on. 678 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Offense, no, not how good they are, how great. 679 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: They are on offensel O Burrow, T Higgins and Jamar 680 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: Chase DJ We've talked about this sometimes. Man, you just 681 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: want to be great on once out of the ball 682 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: and you figure out the other side of the ball. 683 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: I know this. 684 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: I know if the Bengals can figure out how to 685 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: start the season a little faster, their offense is good 686 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: enough to get them into tournament and make them a 687 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: pain in the neck to play, find a way to 688 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: pay the money. T Higgins, Jamar Chase, both of those 689 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: guys can go bokers at any point. And with Joe 690 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: Burrow playing point guard, this team has a puncher's chance 691 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: against anybody because the offense is that good. 692 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, the challenge is going to be can you get in? 693 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: And now you've got a Denver team that they lost 694 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: this game, but they played well. Bo Nicks I thought 695 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: was one of more impressive games. He made some unbelievable 696 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: throws in this game. Excited to see, you know where 697 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: he continues to go in his development. But next week 698 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: they're going to play a Chiefs team that's gonna be 699 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: sitting guys, So it's gonna be Bo Nicks up against 700 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and whoever else. Kansas City wants to roll 701 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: out there for the Broncos to get into the postseason, 702 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: which would be a heck of an accomplishment. Man, with 703 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: these rookie quarterbacks finding their way into the postseason, Washington, 704 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: if Knicks can get it done, put them in there 705 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: as wells and Pennix is still there hanging around there 706 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: as he's gotten that starting job. There a potential team. 707 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: So I always think that's cool when you have young quarterbacks, 708 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: really young quarterbacks, and you're having some success. And I 709 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: thought he played his butt off in that game. 710 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: He did, And I think the blueprint has been laid 711 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: down about the kind of quarterbacks that you're looking for 712 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: when it comes to early starters, guys who have played 713 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: significant snaps as collegiance. We're seeing that they're able to 714 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: transition fairly quickly into the NFL. It may not happen 715 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: week one, but about week eight we're seeing them take 716 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: on more. That's what we saw from Bownicks. We saw 717 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: it happened a little sooner for Jay and Daniels. It 718 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: is exciting to see these young quarterbacks have success because DJ, 719 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: a lot of times we beat people up in terms 720 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: of ottest quarterback class isn't so good. I don't know, 721 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: and this and that, But time and time again, some 722 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: of these young quarterbacks are showing Hey, in the right environment, 723 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: with the right coaching, they can have a lot of success. 724 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: I think experience is critical. 725 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I think that's a great point. 726 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: Man. 727 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Just how much have these guys seen and experienced. It's 728 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: going to give you a definitely give you a leg 729 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: up at the next level. All right, buck, it is 730 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: time for cruising to victory, presented by Royal Caribbean. And 731 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: this was a game I was at. The Chargers just 732 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: absolutely mauled and hammered the New England Patriots. And that's 733 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: another sign of a well coached team. And we said 734 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: it about Jim Harball all year long. Beat the teams 735 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to beat, and in this case, don't make 736 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: it particularly close. 737 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't mess around, go right to him. And it 738 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: is very reminiscent of highest teams would take care of 739 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: business at Michigan. The Chargers step into a team they're 740 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: clearly better than, and they didn't mess around. 741 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: They were focused, they were locked in, and you saw 742 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: it in. 743 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: The way they efficiently carved up the Patriots offensively. I 744 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: can't say enough about Lab McConkie and Lab mccackiy having 745 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: a thousand yards Lab McConkie just working people over. But 746 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: it's also the other people in the past game that 747 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: are able to get down. It's funny because you've seen 748 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: it up close and personal. You've seen more talented Chargers 749 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: teams not have the love of success that this team 750 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: is at. And a lot of it is Jim Harbaugh, 751 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: the standards and expectations and the way that they're executing 752 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: the game plan. Just a really good team, a really 753 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: smart team that is playing well but playing within themselves 754 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: when it comes to understanding who they are and how 755 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: they need to play to win games. 756 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: And also JK. Dobbins being an X factor. I mean, 757 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: he showed you kind of had his value getting him 758 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: back in this ball game. I thought they might really 759 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: ease him in, but they gave him a good load. 760 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: He was physical, he ran well, he's excellent in pass protection. 761 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: He catched the ball if you need him too out 762 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: of the backfield getting him backs. Big Stone Smart is 763 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: a name to keep an eye on, who they've used 764 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: more and more as a tight end, you know, over 765 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: the last month or so. He's helped provide some more 766 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: weaponry for Justin Herbert in this office offense. Darius Davis 767 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: catches a touchdown second week in a row, who's got 768 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: some real, real speed, you know, has found a role here. 769 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: So I think with a first year coach with a 770 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: new team, you know, and Jim Harball getting a chance 771 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: to learn this roster, Greg Roman learning this roster, I 772 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: think they're now getting to the point now where you're 773 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: starting to see him Okay, they've figured out how to 774 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: use these guys and maximize what they do. And Justin 775 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: Herbert this is a crazy thing, but he won't show it. 776 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I think he's playing as well as he ever has 777 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: in terms of elevating the guys around him, not having 778 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: those familiar faces that he's had for his entire career 779 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler. But I've seen 780 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: him lift all these guys up. The guy's not going 781 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: to make the Pro Bowl, and I'm thinking about it 782 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the day. I don't even know 783 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes is going to make the Pro Bowl 784 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: this year, because you're gonna have three quarterbacks. You've got 785 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen I would think 786 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: are going to be the three, which is crazy to 787 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: say because I think we would all agree Patrick Mahomes 788 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL, and Justin Herbert's playing 789 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: as well as he ever has. Long story short, the 790 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: AFC quarterback situation is loaded. 791 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: It is loaded, and it is unfortunate that Justin Herbert 792 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: won't make the Pro Bowl. But here's what I am 793 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: sure he's willing to trade. The w's matter a lot 794 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: more than the Pro Bowl nominations and burse and the 795 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 3: fact that this team is winning and they're winning with 796 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: him doing list and he had to do previously. It 797 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: works for him, and I believe we talked about coaches 798 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: and quarterbacks being married and how important that they compliment 799 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: one another. Justin Herbert is the perfect quarterback for Jim 800 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: Harbaugh and the system. 801 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: He gets it. 802 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: Man, He's selfless, He's willing to put the team over 803 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: his own individual agenda, and they are winning more because 804 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: the quarterback. Doesn't matter how they get to the winner circle. 805 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: He's just gonna do whatever he needs to get done 806 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: to help this team get there. 807 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Well buck the Buffalo Bills. I think that an inner 808 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: squad game. I don't think never mind, Actually that was 809 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: a real game. I thought they were just practicing against 810 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, but it turns out it was a real 811 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: ball game. If you want to call it that a shellacking. 812 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't have to do much, just get in 813 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: and get out of there. Are forty to fourteen over 814 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: the Jets. 815 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 3: Man business as usual up in Buffalo, and Sean McDermott 816 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: does a really good job of getting this team to 817 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: embrace the blue collar approach that they have to follow. 818 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: To win games. 819 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: And even though you have an MVP candidate, MVP front 820 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: runner and Josh Allen, this team is really one that 821 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: has to play a certain way to be able to 822 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: get it done. So it's impressive to watch them not 823 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: only make six straight playoff appearances, win the division five 824 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 3: straight times, but the way they're able to dismantle the Jets, 825 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: and I would say a very workmanlike fashion. Josh Allen 826 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: didn't have it crazy day, had three total touchdowns, but 827 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: continues to just kind of drive the ship the way 828 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: that he needs to do it. This team is solid, man, 829 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: This solid all around. And it's gonna be so fun 830 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: to watch the playoffs because in the AFC, man the 831 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: quarterback play is about as good as it gets and 832 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 3: Josh Allen is one of those guys that deserves credit 833 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: for it. 834 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that they're locked into the two chill, 835 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: you have no buy, so just chill, rest everybody up, 836 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: and get ready for the following week. I would think 837 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: that has to be the plan. 838 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: That has to be planning. 839 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: I will say this though, they do not want the 840 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals to get in there, just because like having 841 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: to vanquished the Demons. 842 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's got so in that if they're coming, that's up 843 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs to decide that. The Chiefs have to 844 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: decide whether they'd rather have the Bills in or where 845 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: they have, you know, potentially a team that could beat 846 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: the Bills. The Bengals could go in there and beat 847 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: the Bills. Maybe they could you know, eliminate the Bills. 848 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Or they could be saying, well, well then what's our 849 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: where we gotta face Joe Burrow I don't know that 850 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: I want that. So the Chiefs got a lot of 851 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: say so, and who say is going to be absolutely 852 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: all right? Colts, Giants. Giants said first overall pick, not interested, 853 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and take this one. Malik Neighbors went off. 854 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: I think you get five explosives and some of them 855 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: will quick hitters, run after catch. He's dynamic, He's going 856 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: to be a fun It's going to be a fun 857 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: toy for whoever's playing quarterback for this team next year. 858 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: But whoever's playing quarterback for this team next year might 859 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: not be, you know, one of those top quarterbacks depending 860 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: on how the draft shakes out. But they fall I believe, 861 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: from one to four now in terms of draft pick. 862 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: And then on the other side of it, the Indianapolis Colts, 863 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: they're done. They are out. No postseason for them. A 864 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: team that's stuck in the middle. Buck, I don't know 865 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: what else to say. I mean, they're just kind of 866 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: mired and myriad mediocrity right now. 867 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're stuck in the middle of First, I want 868 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: touch on the Giants thing, and I think everyone has 869 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: to understand coaches and players, man, they don't worry about 870 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: those draft picks. Man, you're Brian dave Ball and you've 871 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: gone with ten eleven weeks without winning a game. 872 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: You just want to get a win. 873 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: And I think what his postgame comment said and revealed 874 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: it is telling. He talked about, man, when you get 875 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: good quarterback play, you always have a chance to win. 876 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: And so Drew Locke played well. It gave the Giants 877 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: a chance to win. You can say the same thing 878 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: and reverse. In terms of the Indianapolis Coast, they put 879 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 3: a lot of their hopes and dreams into the Anthony 880 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 3: Richardson basket and they haven't been rewarded for going all 881 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: in on a talented prospect who's not quite a polished player. 882 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: And they have to make a decision on how can 883 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: they go forward with Anthony Richardson at quarterback? 884 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: How can they get them going? 885 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: Because when I look at the roster, I look at 886 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: the team, the team is solid enough to be a 887 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: perennial playoff team, but they not good enough at quarterback yet. Uh, 888 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the mission in the offseason. Can they 889 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: get Anthony Richardson ready to play if he's going to 890 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 3: continue to be QB one, or are they gonna have 891 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 3: to find someone else? That can give him a little 892 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: competition for the QB one job. 893 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: I also think Drew Locke, he kind of enters into 894 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: that conversation. We talked about right tools and flashes. He's 895 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: got tools, He's shown us flashes. He's the maybe maybe 896 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: he's a bridge quarterback for next year as you bring 897 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: in a young guy and and who knows, maybe he 898 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: catches lightning in a bottle like Sam Donald did. But that, uh, 899 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: that to me is someone that if you're going to 900 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: have a bridge QB, I kind of like the idea 901 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: of somebody who's being young but has done something in 902 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: this league, has some accomplishments and some ability, which gives 903 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: you credibility inside the locker room, and when you're meeting 904 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: with your offense there they take you seriously. 905 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 906 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: Look, he's always one of my favorites. Says meet him 907 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: as a as a teenager, put the backpack. He got 908 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: a little swagger, he was able to put it together. 909 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: But I think he got the memo, Hey, the offense 910 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 3: is a lot better when number one touches the ball early. 911 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: At offense. 912 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: Let's make sure the ball goes to number one and 913 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: I look like a much better player. And the team 914 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: looks much better when Malie Napers is doing his thing 915 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 3: on the perimeter. 916 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: No doubt. Happy for Drew Locke, He's a nice kid. 917 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: Miami Cleveland not a pretty game here, twenty to three Dolphins. 918 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean everybody I was laughing because everybody's clamoring for Jamis. 919 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: They're like, look, and that's why. And that's my phrase 920 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: that I've always had buck, which is, hey can't be 921 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: bad and boring, no fun. You can be good and boring, 922 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: but you can't be bad and boring. And without Jos 923 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: out there, extremely boring as well as bad. 924 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he gave you look, he'll throw you in it, 925 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: he'll throw you out of it. But the one thing 926 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 3: he's going to do, he's gonna keep throwing it. And 927 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: this offense has more juice when Jameis Winston is there. 928 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: I think the bigger news that came out is the 929 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 3: contract restructure that they're going to do for the Shawn 930 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: Watson that guarantees that he's going to be there in 931 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. The Cleveland Browns at a crossroads because 932 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: how do they figure out how to build the team 933 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: and get this team back up and running with the 934 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 3: quarterback who hasn't played great for them while he's in 935 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: there off injured, inconsistent, But they're really still trying to 936 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 3: hitch their wagon to them. How do they do it? 937 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: How do they pull it on? And how do they 938 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 3: have a backup plan? What is playing B? If Deshaun 939 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: Watson doesn't play well next year? What is playing B? 940 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 3: Can you get a young quarterback to challenge him? A 941 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: lot of questions, a lot of things that have to 942 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: be resolved in the off season for the Cleveland Browns. 943 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: As of right now, the Cleveland Browns hold the third pick, 944 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: so they could stick and pick and potentially maybe get 945 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback, or you want to get Froggy. Thew England 946 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: Patriots up there with the first overall pick, who already 947 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, so they're in strike one distance. They 948 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: if they love, if they love somebody, you know, I 949 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: don't know this class has one of those guys. For me, 950 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: it's cam ord As we sit right now as the 951 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: top guy. But the hard thing would be, gosh, you 952 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: want to pair up Deshaun Watson with a cheap started, 953 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: but you also, just because of how much money you 954 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: have in that position, you don't want to forfeit draft 955 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: picks because you need more cheap starters to go along 956 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: with that, which is going to lead us to having 957 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: the inevitable offseason discussion about what do they do with 958 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. But that's another topic for another day. We 959 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: save that one file that one away, Buck, We'll have 960 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: that conversation a little on down the road. It's time 961 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: for Monday Night Football preview, Buck. In this one, we 962 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: have really a tail of two seasons here. The forty 963 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: nine Ers, anything that's gone wrong has gone wrong, and 964 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions everything has gone quite well. Everything in 965 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: front of them right now holding the number one seed. 966 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: If they can win this ballgame beat a very very 967 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: tough opponent next week in the Minnesota Vikings, they would 968 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: be the number one seed in the NFC. 969 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: No a lot of in front, a lot of stake 970 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 3: in this game, I mean not really a lot of state, 971 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: because next week we'll determine whether you win and secure 972 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: the number one seed or not. But this still has 973 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 3: to have like a little personal thing for the Detroit Lions. 974 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: I felt like they gave away a game last YEARNFC 975 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 3: Championship game where they were dominating the forty nine Ers, 976 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: early and didn't finish it. I think it's very easy 977 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: for Danny Campbell to get his team motivated to kick 978 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: a team while they're down, and they have an opportunity 979 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: to kick the Niners while they're down and sharpen their 980 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: tubs to get ready for a tough postseason gauntlet. Look 981 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: for the Lions to play well, but also look for 982 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 3: them to see how they can expand what they're doing 983 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: without having all their weapons available, maybe early in the postseason, 984 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 3: particularly David Montgomery. 985 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: Let's see how they get Jamiir Gibbs involved. 986 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: Let's see how they continue to lighten the load maybe 987 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: on him, We'll get some others involved in a running game. 988 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 3: We know where they can do in the passing attack. 989 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: But the Detroit Lions are really special because they've been 990 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 3: able to run the ball effectively with two backs. How 991 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: do they make up for what is lost when David 992 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 3: Montgomery's on the sideline? 993 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say for another team, another coach, maybe 994 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: you almost kind of use this as a mini bye 995 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: week to get ready for next week, considering, no matter 996 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: what happens in this one, you still control everything going 997 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: into that matchup against Minnesota. But and it's a short week, 998 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: you lose a day. I just don't think Dan Campbell's 999 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: wired that way, So I do not see that happen. 1000 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: I see them putting their best foot forward, see if 1001 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: they can jump on the forty nine ers early in 1002 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: this ballgame, and maybe you can get some rest on 1003 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: the back end of it. But a game that, to me, 1004 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: everything does point towards the Detroit Lions keeping that momentum alive. 1005 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: One other topic I wanted to hit you on before 1006 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: we get out of here, because I was, you know, traveling, 1007 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: you know, doing the charging game and traveling long flight home, 1008 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: and I'm on the flight and I'm like seeing cam 1009 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: Ward trending and I'm looking at people losing their minds. Yeah, 1010 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: because he did not play in the second half of 1011 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 1: a ball game. He tore it up in the first 1012 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: half in their bowl game, doesn't play in the second half, 1013 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: they go on to lose. It doesn't sound like Mario 1014 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: Cristobal did him any favors by not really giving an 1015 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: answer after the game on whether this was the plan 1016 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: or not. I don't know all the particulars in terms 1017 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: of it was this communicated ahead of time. I'm imagining 1018 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: it was that there was you know, there was a 1019 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: decision made there collectively. But my point was, teams do 1020 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: not care. I'm constantly talking and texting with general managers 1021 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff, had these conversations at bazillion times. 1022 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: I said, play a quarter, play a half, don't play that. 1023 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: It's not gonna move you up or down the draft 1024 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: board one time and then everybody loses their minds and 1025 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, well, okay, well then insert Christian 1026 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: McCaffrey's name. Were the one hundred plus guys that have 1027 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: skipped Bowl games, including I don't know, I'm guessing there's 1028 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: there's fifty of them in this year's of Bowl games 1029 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: that aren't playing. So the fact that he played a half, like, oh, 1030 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: it just looks bad. He played half of a game 1031 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: and then left. And I'm like, teams don't care. 1032 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 3: They don't care, you know, DJ Like, to me, the 1033 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: outrage is so crazy, like he gave you a half. 1034 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: Most guys that are not playing in the playoffs, he 1035 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: gave you a half. He put it out there for half. 1036 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 3: And if he plays in the second half and he 1037 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: gets hurt, then everyone's will say, oh, Marie Chris the 1038 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 3: balsh and that play him should have pulled him. 1039 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: He should have kept his shit. 1040 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: You can't be right when it comes to these conversations 1041 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 3: that you're having on X. When it relates to cam Ward, 1042 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: cam Ward did the masalid he to me, it is 1043 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 3: like a preseason game. In a preseason game, you get 1044 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 3: a chance to see a half the look. Put it 1045 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: on your hat, pop off your pads, let the young 1046 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 3: guys play. There's nothing that was going to change Miami's 1047 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 3: trajectory if cam Ward plays this. They went to pop 1048 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 3: Tar Bowl and what nothing. You don't get anything out 1049 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 3: of it. There's no crystal ball that you're getting at 1050 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: the end for winning the title. So cam Ward didn't 1051 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 3: more than enough for me. In fact, I would say 1052 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: that he took advantage of an opportunity because on a 1053 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: day when he played and Shador Sanders played, you had 1054 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 3: an opportunity to do a comparative analysis. And the impressive 1055 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 3: flashes that cam Ward put on in the first half 1056 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 3: certainly resonates because that's the lasting impression that evaluators will 1057 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 3: have until we get to the combat. 1058 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: You know what, Hey, I tore my achilles. I can't 1059 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: do anything in the spring. I might miss the beginning 1060 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: of next year, but I got a toaster trophy, so 1061 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: it was worth it. Stop it doesn't stop, I think, 1062 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't what are we're doing outrage? 1063 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 2: I really it doesn't. It doesn't really. 1064 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: Make a spring game. People have divorced them, and you 1065 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: know who it is. It's the people that are our 1066 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: age in a little bit older, who grew up where 1067 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: these bowl games mattered and they mean something and it 1068 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: was a big deal. It's not. It's not the same. 1069 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: Stop looking at the world through the lens of the nineties. 1070 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: This is not what that is anymore. This is a 1071 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: glorified spring game. In fact, somebody brought up a great 1072 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: point which I would sign on right now. Is that 1073 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: your reward, like for how you finished this year for 1074 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: if you're not in the playoff, those bowl games were 1075 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: not playing them. Now those are going to be the 1076 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: kickoff games for next year. So we still have the 1077 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: bowl money, everybody still gets all their money, but that 1078 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 1: will be your opening game which will count next year, 1079 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: and it would be a huge like neutral site game 1080 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: every like what a way to like like launch the 1081 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: college football season. Then it would be a meaningful game. 1082 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: These games at the end of the year outside the playoff, 1083 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: they mean nothing, and I'm gonna hear, oh you just you. 1084 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter. It's a spring game. It's 1085 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: a spring game. That's all it is. 1086 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 1087 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: You have to be adapt will. If anything, it's a 1088 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: launching point for spring ball because you have the young 1089 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: guys their early enrollies, get a chance to practice with 1090 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 3: the team they babe and get a chance to play 1091 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 3: in the game and do all the other stuff. You 1092 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 3: get to play the young guys and then the way 1093 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: you depending on how you set up your calendar for 1094 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 3: spring ball, DJ, you're able to get four weeks of work, 1095 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 3: take maybe another six to eight weeks off, get back 1096 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: to spring ball February March, continue on. I mean like 1097 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 3: this is part of the development plan for elite programs. 1098 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: Don't make too much of it, like a scals. No 1099 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: one cares. We don't care. It's fine. He played, he 1100 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 3: played a half. I got a chance to see him again. 1101 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 3: But if I like cam Ward, there's nothing that he 1102 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: did and walking off the field that made me not 1103 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: like him. If I like the talent, I like what 1104 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 3: he's shown throughout his career in his time at Miami, 1105 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm good with cam. 1106 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: Ward and that beings said, I respect Dion's approach that 1107 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: he took, which was our guys are gonna play and 1108 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: he set that tone from the top and they had, 1109 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, a culture change there, and that was the 1110 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: message he wanted to send, including with his son and 1111 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. Now they got their breaks beat off him 1112 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: by Kloni Sataki and by you whoa man. That was 1113 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: not fun. But that being said, I don't think Schudor 1114 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: drops a spot for having not played well in a 1115 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: bowl game that didn't carry a lot of significance as 1116 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: much as I don't think cam Wore drops the spot 1117 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: for bowing out. That's just my two cents buck. 1118 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 2: No, man, I looked the outrage. 1119 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe, but I feel like 1120 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: this where we're at right now, DJ like people mad 1121 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 3: about the college football playoff oh. 1122 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: In the nas munition they got here, Like, hey, man. 1123 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 3: Can we just enjoy the fact that we got ball 1124 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: At this time of the year, we will see some 1125 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: of these top games. It is what it is like, 1126 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 3: just enjoyed. I don't know why we can't enjoy the 1127 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 3: good things. We always have to pick it apart. I'm 1128 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 3: fine with all of it. 1129 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: No, now the college football playoff. You don't see guys 1130 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: bowing out. Those are meaningful games and games that we 1131 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: will recap right here on move the sticks. Appreciate you 1132 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: guys hanging with us. Tons more coming your way as 1133 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 1: we get to the good time of the year, College 1134 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: football playoffs, NFL playoffs, it's the good stuff. We'll take 1135 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 1: care of you right here under the sticks.