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Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back to another episode of Rotfresh.

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Speaker 1: This is Jake Hooefer. We have a late season update

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Speaker 1: across the country. We have Ohio, Illinois, and Michigan, and

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Speaker 1: we have cold temperatures. We have some more cold temperatures

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Speaker 1: coming in here. So as you can imagine here in

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Speaker 1: the Midwest, food is going to be a very large priority.

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Speaker 1: But what happens when things aren't perfect? The buck isn't

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Speaker 1: quite showing up on time, or maybe your access isn't perfect.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of the more intricate

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Speaker 1: details of what you can do if you have a

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Speaker 1: potential opportunity at a great fleet season food source. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed this episode with Mark Kenyon, Justin Hollinsworth,

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Speaker 1: and Grant Putnam from Illinois. As you know, Roughfresh is

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Speaker 1: or hunting properties here in the US. We're going to

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Speaker 1: kick things off here with Mark Kenyon to get a

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Speaker 1: quick season update from Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're kicking things off with none other than Mark.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute since you've been out here on

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Speaker 1: Rough Fresh. We're in December, we're inching deeper and deeper

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Speaker 1: into the year. How's it going.

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Speaker 3: It's great, it's been a fun season. It's been, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, as they always do. They always seem to

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Speaker 3: go so fast. You dream of it all year long,

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Speaker 3: and it seems like it's forever away, and then you blink,

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Speaker 3: and then the seasons like almost here, and then you're

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Speaker 3: panicking about I'm not ready for this or what do

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Speaker 3: then the season's almost done. It seems like every year

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Speaker 3: that's the story, and it was true once again this year.

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Speaker 4: But it's been it's been really good. And December so

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Speaker 4: far off to good start, you know, for a lot

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Speaker 4: of different reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we've and I feel like this and I've

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Speaker 1: talked about it here on Rough Fresh, but this is

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Speaker 1: one of the colder first parts of December we've had

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Speaker 1: in a really long time where the food sources and

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Speaker 1: everything else comes into a major play way sooner than

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Speaker 1: what it has in the past.

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Speaker 2: So has that.

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Speaker 1: Equals more sightings and potentially more opportunity here so far

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Speaker 1: in December for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is the late season that

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Speaker 4: you dream of, I think for a lot of us,

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Speaker 4: and for the last decade, we have not had a

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Speaker 4: whole lot of Decembers that started this well, at least

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Speaker 4: just overgeneralize, like you said, it has seemed like for

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Speaker 4: at least long periods of relative warmth on a lot

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Speaker 4: of these late seasons. I just kept on finding myself

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Speaker 4: many years being like, oh, geez, are we ever going

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Speaker 4: to get the cold front we need? Are we ever

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Speaker 4: ever had those single digits at least that's you know,

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Speaker 4: the story in Southern Michigan for a whole lot of years.

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Speaker 4: But this year, you know, we've largely had it. We've

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Speaker 4: had below average temperatures, We've had a bunch of snow

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Speaker 4: The last fifteen, sixteen years, whatever it's been that I've

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Speaker 4: actually on a couple of the properties I've permission on

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Speaker 4: you dream of, which has led to a lot of sightings.

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Speaker 4: The only downside for me personally is that the only

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Speaker 5: Sorts of reasons.

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Speaker 4: So all that said, about a week ago ish a

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Speaker 4: Know buck antler wise, but an old buck I think,

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Speaker 4: answer to your question, which is so far, so good.

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Speaker 4: I can give you more details on like the specific

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Speaker 4: and what we've seen so far, but good stuff in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with most of your signings in the freshly picked

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Speaker 1: Is that similar to what you've seen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's two things really congregating deer in

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Speaker 4: But the second thing is the pressure impact. Our gun

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Speaker 5: And that might be what happened here.

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Speaker 4: That might be why this new buck showed up, because

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Speaker 5: A lot of deer. And there's a lot of deer.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we hunted, My son and I hunted Friday

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's so snowy, and it was a

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Speaker 4: So when we were coming out in the evening, we

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Speaker 5: Just full a deer. I mean, even more deer than that.

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Speaker 4: So everything was piling out as that, you know, night

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Speaker 4: it was cold, high pressure, a lot of snow, kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can jump right into that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel we have some really cold, frigid

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Speaker 2: Are you pretty not excited for next weekend?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's if I again, if I had like

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Speaker 4: We have that front kitting like Friday Saturday. It looks

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Speaker 5: The whole week is good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the whole week is pretty darn good compared

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I real quick, I mean the rough

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be good. It's gonna be fun. Seven.

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Speaker 1: Now, I would agree with that, And well, good luck

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Speaker 4: Well, then I got to show you this picture real quick,

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Speaker 5: It looks like yes, it does look like Bullwinkle.

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Speaker 4: And hopefully we'll have a picture of me and my

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, good luck to you guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got Justin hollins Worth from Ohio, and

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Speaker 1: this is funny. I asked, Hey, do you want to

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was super funny because Steve and I were pulling

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Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Ground, hot off the press. Now, I was super Jackuarry Man.

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Speaker 1: That was That was awesome, awesome timing. So December bucks

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Speaker 6: You know that last you know, I kind of start

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Speaker 5: You know, those last seven days in November. But then

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Speaker 6: I still do think I've still just even recently seen

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Speaker 1: And so with that being said, with him being run down,

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Speaker 6: But they're touchy because I can personally say, like that

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I pressured that deer, like I'm supplied.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised even in the county anymore, because I was,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it worked out. And I feel that's the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I think. I think too. You get

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Speaker 6: supposed to be you know, some.

439
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 5: Of those younger deer that that do that.

440
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 6: So maybe you know, maybe this you know, this first

441
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 6: week of December or whatever, maybe you get some of

442
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 6: those those little those little fonts.

443
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 5: Because the buck that I just shot, he was fallen.

444
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 6: A he was following a uh a do on m

445
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 6: hm buyers and she wasn't with any other deer.

446
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 5: It's just those two.

447
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: Wow.

448
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 6: So I don't know, I don't know if there's you know,

449
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not a deer biologist or anything.

450
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, just observation over the years. You know,

451
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 5: I've seen some stuff like that. But I've killed.

452
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 6: I've killed three I've killed three bucks in that you

453
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 6: know first part of December, you know, with my dough.

454
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 6: You know, two of them was with a dough my

455
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 6: biggest I ever killed. He was with a dough and

456
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 6: then this one was with a doe the other night

457
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 6: when he came in, and the other one was just

458
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 6: he was by hisself and just run down and just

459
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 6: just odd food.

460
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: So looking here in the next seven days, it seems

461
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: like there's two options. Hope you find the lucky young

462
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: do or be on a good food source. I think

463
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: one thing I want to bring up with hunting food sources,

464
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: how careful are you. Let's say let's say you get

465
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: a picture of a deer in the middle of the night,

466
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: a deer you knew from November, he didn't connect with him,

467
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: and he shows up on food middle of the night,

468
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning

469
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: somewhere in that timeframe. Is that enough for you to

470
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: go and to start hunting that food source in the

471
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: evenings or are you more apprehensive to go in there

472
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: and hope that as temperatures get colder, as we get

473
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: more snow, if that happens, they'll end up getting there

474
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: in daylight.

475
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Or what have you been able to pick up over

476
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: the years.

477
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: I feel like someone out there is in that exact

478
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: scenario right now.

479
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 6: This is uh, this is my thought on it. So

480
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 6: because we we pay so much attention to cameras a

481
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 6: lot of times, which can be a mistake.

482
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: I still think that.

483
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 6: I think we needed if you have the opportunity to

484
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 6: be able to to to glass them from a long

485
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 6: distance and just stay back and kind of get it

486
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 6: feel for because they might be right there in that

487
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 6: field or whatever, feeding and you just never got a

488
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 6: picture because they I mean, they got to walk in

489
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 6: front of the camera.

490
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 5: And it's just not always the case.

491
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 6: I mean, There's been numerous times over the years where

492
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 6: I've went in and just off a gut feel and

493
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 6: thought I should just go set that just to see

494
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 6: what's going on. Yeah, he hasn't been on camera in daylight,

495
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 6: but I'm just gonna go set it and then he

496
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 6: just and then I see.

497
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 5: Him in daylight.

498
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 6: I I mean because at the end of at the

499
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: end of the day, we're always we're all trying to

500
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 6: predict something that hasn't happened yet, and I think.

501
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 5: That you need to go.

502
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 6: If you can glass and pick up that information is

503
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 6: one thing, but or or maybe you just set an

504
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: observation stand and set back with that, you know, like

505
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 6: that you're safe getting in and out, but you could

506
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 6: get an opportunity as well. I think I think that

507
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 6: that can come into play big time. But to me,

508
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 6: I gotta take I gotta take a shot at it

509
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 6: every once in a while, like I can't just like

510
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 6: I see, I've seen a lot of just friends, even

511
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: my end myself over the years, just like waiting to

512
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 6: get a daylight pitcher. I mean, by the time you

513
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 6: get a daylight picture, that was your chance and you

514
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 6: just weren't there. And now now you went and hunted it.

515
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: And if it's a food source this time of year, man,

516
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: there you're gonna deal with.

517
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: A lot of other eyes.

518
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 6: And noses and and getting out is going to be

519
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: it's that's a nightmare sometimes.

520
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: What what is one or two strategies to get out?

521
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on having someone pick you up?

522
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on because it's cold by then, like

523
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: when that sun goes down and you're like, dude, it's cold,

524
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh is it to ride it out till it's pitch black?

525
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what how do you get out without without

526
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: messing it up? Because you're if you're on a good

527
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: food sources, probably going to be ten to twenty twenty

528
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: deer in there, and it's like the last thing you

529
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: want to do is bust them all out.

530
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 6: If you can get somebody to pick you up, I

531
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 6: think that's huge. That's not always the case for me.

532
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 6: You know, I use you know, I use a and

533
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: uh you know one of Steve's hardcore e bikes. I

534
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 6: think you got one as well, And that's been huge

535
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 6: for me because sometimes if I can get down the

536
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 6: tree and my bike's close and on it, if I'm

537
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: riding away from them, they don't seem to run. They

538
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 6: do more of a watch unless I have to like

539
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 6: ride through where they're whatever they're they're at or whatever.

540
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 6: It's it's not ideal, but I mean, I don't know.

541
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 6: I think that you got to move deer around to

542
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 6: kill deer, and that's just that's just unfortunately part of it.

543
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: But I think you're you're really trying to stack.

544
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 6: Say you're watching the book, all you're getting is say

545
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: nighttime photos. Now now you can you see a weather

546
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 6: front coming, you know, and a lot of people like

547
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 6: the front end. You know, my buddy Heath Cisco has

548
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 6: proven this over and over again. The back half is

549
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 6: much better and then that's actually and that's how I

550
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 6: killed my buck just recently.

551
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: It was on the back half of that.

552
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 6: You know, the front was past us and the pressure

553
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 6: was rising. I think you need to take and you

554
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: stack some you know, attempts in your favor. Maybe a

555
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 6: front in your favor, maybe with the you know, maybe

556
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 6: maybe it's a certain moon phase that favors an evening.

557
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: Movement pattern.

558
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 6: Just try to stack a couple things in your favor.

559
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: And because again to go back to like you're trying

560
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 6: to predict something that's going to happen, not that it's

561
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: already happened.

562
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: I that is I've.

563
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 6: Done that so many times over the years, with those

564
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 6: stupid cameras where I'm like, oh, I got to go

565
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 6: a daylight picture, I'm going in a hunt.

566
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 5: I never see the deer. Yeah, And it's just and

567
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: it's just ridiculous.

568
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 6: I just think it's got to be stats and things

569
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 6: in your favor, whether being the number one thing of

570
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: everything with white tails, and and then that part of

571
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 6: the season, I mean, it's going to be about food,

572
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 6: and it's going to be they're going to be recovering.

573
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 6: I can tell you that just a couple of years ago,

574
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 6: I had a buck that kind of similar situation, and

575
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 6: I was hunting him this time of year, and the

576
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 6: other thing. This is where this is something I This

577
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: is where I made a mistake on this deer. It

578
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 6: was a nice ten why probably one hundred and sixty

579
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 6: inch deer didn't have any.

580
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: History with a deer or whatever. He moved in during

581
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: November and just was in there.

582
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 6: And what I he was.

583
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: Back there, and what I did? I set back too far.

584
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: And I didn't go exactly where I you know, like

585
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 6: I didn't want to press too hard and go exactly

586
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 6: where I knew that I really needed to be. And

587
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: I went in hunted the deer, seeing the deer that

588
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 6: night and didn't even when I left that night, I

589
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 6: didn't blow any deer up leaving or anything. And and

590
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 6: then I wanted, then, I want to try to make

591
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 6: my move the next time around.

592
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: And he just he just wasn't showing up in daylight anymore.

593
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 6: And I mean if I would have, if I would

594
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 6: have done what my gut told me to do that

595
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 6: first time in there, I would.

596
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 5: Have killed that buck.

597
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I tried to play it too safe. And

598
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 6: I think I think we all try to play it

599
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 6: too safe. Sometimes I think that's good.

600
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Well, real quick, imagine you didn't shoot this buck from

601
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: the tenth to the seventeenth of December in Ohio. Ten

602
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: being the best week of the year, one being one

603
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: of the worst weeks of the year. Where do you

604
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: rank it?

605
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: Tenth to seven? I would give it it's tough.

606
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 6: I would give it a three, Okay, I would give it, yeah,

607
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 6: like a three or four because personally me, like the

608
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: first you know, October is I love October like it's

609
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 6: my favorite favorite white tail month, no questions about it.

610
00:31:53,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: November frustrating, very frustrating. This year was very frustrating, just

611
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 6: because the big dogs are gonna have does and if

612
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: you are in areas in most of the state of Ohio,

613
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 6: there's just a lot of dose because people don't shoot dose,

614
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 6: and it's a problem. And to me, you know, October

615
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 6: is great, November could be frustrating. December it's I believe

616
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: December is the toughest month out of our entire year.

617
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: And then you go into January. January can be it

618
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: can be just awesome. Yeah, but you gotta have food.

619
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta have food.

620
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: If you don't have food, go find some places where

621
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: there might be some food if people want to fall

622
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: along with some past once you've done and and everything

623
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: else is white Tail Addictions one of the best places

624
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: to do that.

625
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, white Tail Addictions.

626
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: And that's where all of our it's on the Lone

627
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 6: Wolf custom gear YouTube page.

628
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: But that's just where we put all the white tail addictions.

629
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: So this is all right there.

630
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, justin, congratulations once again, appreciate you hopping on here,

631
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: and uh yeah it was awesome, perfect timing. So if

632
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I text someone else for reughresh, that probably means they're

633
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: going to kill a buck or they just killed one.

634
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: So this might be a good trend, a good kind

635
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: of Murphy's Law in a positive way.

636
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: Here.

637
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was awesome, thanks Justin. Yep, all right.

638
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Next up online we have grand Putnam who just shot

639
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: a big old buck in Illinois, Grant and that's your

640
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: number two of the year too. So how does it

641
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: feel to be officially bucked out? It's December seventh, you're

642
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: relishing in the moment you got to chop up the

643
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: deer here today?

644
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: How's it feel?

645
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 7: It feels good. It's actually I was just busy talking

646
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 7: to one of my buddies who just came up here

647
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 7: to help me butcher them. Shout out to Jesse. And

648
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 7: this deer that I shot last night was actually the

649
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 7: first deer match set that I found when we got

650
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 7: this farm, and I actually found him on the road

651
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 7: driving in there like it. That was first experience on

652
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 7: match set. And so he's obviously significantly bigger than this now,

653
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 7: but pretty awesome experience. And so it feels really good.

654
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 7: That's so cool, I told, I told I think it

655
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 7: was one of my buddies the other day. I think

656
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 7: over the course, because you and I are about the

657
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 7: same age, and the way I set up my like

658
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 7: roster for the year, I tend to bracket deer basically, uh,

659
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 7: you know, what are my top six deer on the

660
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 7: properties I've had, have access to, what's so on and

661
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 7: so forth. And I had it in my mind locked

662
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 7: in this year. I knew that this was going to

663
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 7: be the number one dear, and I was like, come

664
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 7: hell or high water, I will eat the second tag

665
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 7: to kill that dear. So lo and behold, he stepped

666
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 7: out last night. And we can get into that a

667
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 7: little bit more. With your questions you're gonna ask me

668
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 7: so it feels great. It feels great, So yeah, I'm

669
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 7: going to go try to get another one to know.

670
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: I bet that's awesome. Man. So uh, it's Illinois.

671
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: We're wrapping up the second leg or I guess the

672
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: fire a leg of shotgun rifle season here in Illinois.

673
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: Just anadotally looking at Facebook, it honestly seems like second

674
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: season has been better than first season. And that's just

675
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: my gut reaction in looking on Facebook. And we have snow,

676
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: we have cold weather, and it's been a long time

677
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: since we've had that for this season, and so I

678
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: have to imagine the cold weather and snow played into

679
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: some part of your strategy for last night.

680
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: Is that true or accurate? What was your setup? Yeah?

681
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 7: Absolutely so, I pretty fanatically. I'm a big believer in

682
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 7: electrical fencing food plots. If you're hunting a small food plot,

683
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 7: I tend to do that in the summertime and spend

684
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 7: almost as much effort as I do electrically fencing off.

685
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: Like if I want a late season grain field, a

686
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 7: late season Braska plot that I don't want touched until

687
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 7: really late. Adjacent to one of those grain fields, I

688
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 7: spend a lot of time in the summers electrically fencing

689
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 7: them off to keep them out of it, to keep

690
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 7: the pressure low. So we have a good crop and

691
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 7: the deer don't just you know, mull it down to

692
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 7: it to nothing. And so last night, actually the deer

693
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 7: that I shot, which I call the six by five,

694
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 7: I've been watching him for about I've known about him

695
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 7: for three or four years now. Like I said, I

696
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 7: believe this is a two year old match set right

697
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 7: here in my hand. And so this year in particular,

698
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 7: and kind of my strategy last night was just sitting

699
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 7: over food. Last night, I finally had the right wind.

700
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 7: If you recall on Thursday and Friday night. Thursday was

701
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: very cold, but we had a southerly wind because of

702
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 7: the warm up on Friday, and it wasn't right on Thursday.

703
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 7: It wasn't right on Friday, and I was actually waffling

704
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 7: back and forth between like, uh, should I take the

705
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 7: afternoon off and go after him? And it wasn't the

706
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 7: right wind. And finally one of my friends was like,

707
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 7: you know what, I think You're gonna have another crack

708
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 7: at him. So I'm just just lay out of there,

709
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 7: and that's what I ended up doing. And so last

710
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 7: night I guess what I saw in a nutshell and

711
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 7: what I've seen over the last couple of week's hunting,

712
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 7: because we had snow here for about ten days in Illinois,

713
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: a good snowfall, not just like a dusting like I think.

714
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 7: There's probably eight to ten on the ground right now

715
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 7: where I live. And we got another couple last night.

716
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 7: And so what this deer did, the behavior that I

717
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 7: observed him last night, was he came out. I ended

718
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 7: up seeing about forty five ish year in total. He

719
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 7: came out, and it was very early. It was three

720
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 7: point thirty when he came out yesterday, so probably about

721
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 7: an hour and a half of legal time remaining on

722
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 7: the timer. And he was actually bumping yearling does so

723
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 7: depending on you know, the listener that you have, I

724
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 7: tend to call a yearling a year a deer that

725
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 7: is a year old, not a fawn, not a dough fond,

726
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 7: but a yearling doe. And he was bumping her around

727
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 7: the field like last night, pretty substantially, and he actually

728
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 7: bumped her right into one of my food plots where

729
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 7: he then was getting ready to eat. I didn't give

730
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: him a whole lot of time to eat. I'm gonna

731
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 7: be honest, he came in and.

732
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I shot, So you got you gotta you gotta capitalize

733
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity because you never know what could happen. Crazy

734
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: things always happen. It's fun to sit there and watch them,

735
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: but you gotta you gotta make it happen. So, kind

736
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: of reverting back to waiting for the right wind, was

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: he pretty consistent hitting that food source once the temperatures

738
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: have dropped in the snow has hit the ground, or

739
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: is somewhat was it still somewhat random?

740
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

741
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 7: So I I frankly would have shot this year. Last

742
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 7: year at five and I saw him a couple of

743
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 7: times on the hoof very nice deer. This year I

744
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 7: tried rattling them in and actually end up rattling a

745
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 7: subordinate buck in which is a nice one as well,

746
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 7: different deer on the same day that.

747
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 5: I saw him.

748
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 7: You know, it was just one of those magical rut

749
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 7: days where the right hot do came by the stand

750
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 7: and I saw the buck parade. And so this year,

751
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 7: after the post rut, I would I typically tend to

752
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 7: say that the rut is post rut after Thanksgiving, and

753
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 7: post rut I would say that I was getting this

754
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 7: deer on camera every day or every other day on

755
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 7: this particular food source. So I have like a three

756
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 7: stage food plot. I've got Braska's clover and the beans

757
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 7: all stacked up in here, and they filter out and

758
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 7: they just transition back and forth, you know, that greens

759
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 7: the grain type of strategy that you've probably heard a

760
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 7: bunch of different people say. I just want to be

761
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 7: able to satiate the appetite of the deer and whatever

762
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 7: they are interested in eating and hold them there regardless

763
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 7: of the time of the year. So I tend to

764
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 7: plan a lot of my food plots kind of following

765
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 7: that rhythm. And so he was on camera bright, I mean,

766
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 7: very early as well on Wednesday. Wednesday, I just couldn't

767
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 7: get out of work. On Thursday, we had the big

768
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 7: temperature drop, so about a twenty degree temperature swing from

769
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 7: the mid thirties to like about fifteen tennish degrees here

770
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 7: on Thursday. But we had that southernly win on Thursday

771
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 7: because we had a warm up on Friday, and on

772
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 7: Friday he was out there as well, and that was

773
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 7: about thirty five on Friday, he was out there as well.

774
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 7: So I figured that over the weekend with the north

775
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 7: we win swinging through on Saturday Sunday, I would have

776
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 7: an opportunity at him, and that's pretty much exactly what happened.

777
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

778
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: I love it Like Lacy's and food is an insurance policy,

779
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: and when you don't have insurance, you wish you do,

780
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: and when something goes wrong and you have insurance, right,

781
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: gosh dang, And I'm glad I have this policy. And

782
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, with the weather cooperating, obviously, it came out

783
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: together really nicely. Now kind of looking here over the

784
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: next seven days, so like the tenth of the seventeenth

785
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: of December, it looks like we're gonna have some pretty

786
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: frigid bit or cold weather again this upcoming weekend. I

787
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: assume the strategy remains pretty similar to food. I mean

788
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: food and still hunting, hunting.

789
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 7: Smart down inside of food, wait for the wind to

790
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 7: be right. It looks like we're going to get a

791
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 7: massive cold front on Thursday through Sunday next week that's

792
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 7: going to push temperatures into the single digits come evening time.

793
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 7: So I believe that deer is going to be just

794
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 7: absolutely clobbering food next weekend. During muzzloder season, if you're

795
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 7: an Illinois resident, I think that would be an awesome

796
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 7: opportunity to kill what I call the deer. I think

797
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 7: that late season food plot hunting tends to be one

798
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 7: of the best and most predictable opportunities in times to

799
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 7: kill the air quote number one buck they have that

800
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 7: you're aware of, has made it through the rut, has

801
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 7: avated a lot of arrows, and has made it through

802
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 7: the first gun season in Ali and which happens at

803
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 7: the tail end of the rut. So I think, my opinion,

804
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 7: if deer are making it past Thanksgiving in Illinois and

805
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 7: you have food, I think you have a very very

806
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 7: good crack at them, as long as you're patient and

807
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 7: the wind is right, your approach is pretty good and

808
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 7: you're not walking through bedding areas banging everything out of

809
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 7: there on your way to and from. So yep, that's

810
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 7: what I'll be what.

811
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: Let me run this scenario.

812
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Let me let me run this scenario past you your

813
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: next weekend. Pretend Okay, you're hunting with your wife, she

814
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: has Muslim attack, and there's fifteen deer twenty deer in

815
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: your food plot. The buck that you guys were after

816
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: did not show up, So you have twenty deer in

817
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: your food plot, You're like, oh crap, how do we

818
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: get the heck out of here? How much does that

819
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: make you nervous? Knowing each time the plan doesn't come together,

820
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: your odds could easily be diminishing with each quote unquote

821
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: unsuccessful hunt. What is your exit strategy? Do you guys

822
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: just hang out in the blind until you know it

823
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: gets really really dark? The moon's been really bright this weekend,

824
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: so it's like it's like you could sit there all

825
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: night and it's still gonna be pretty bright out with

826
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: the snow and the moon. But what do you do

827
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: in that scenario? Do you just hope for the best

828
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and start to zip out of there as quietly as possible.

829
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 7: I think that I think that by far the most

830
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 7: underrated aspect of deer hunting outside of like weapon proficiency.

831
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 7: To me, I think a lot of deer live because

832
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 7: they're missed or they're wounded or whatever. So I think

833
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 7: weapon proficiency is like a sneaky, sneaky killer of deer

834
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 7: hunting and destroyer of mental health of deer hunters. But

835
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 7: I think the second one is really and I've really

836
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 7: tried to clean up my access over the last few

837
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 7: years and ensure like it is pitch dark. So I

838
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 7: tend to sit in my blind until five forty five

839
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: six o'clock before I even open the door, because I

840
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 7: don't want dear to even have an inkling of seeing

841
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 7: me in regards of like the moonlight shining off the

842
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 7: snow and the reflection and how visible you are out there.

843
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 7: All of the blinds that I have set up for

844
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 7: late season hunting minus one, you're down the stairs out

845
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 7: the back of the blind and you're into pretty substantial

846
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 7: cover quickly. And so I've kind of finagled my entry

847
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 7: exit routes to make sure I'm minimizing that amount, so

848
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 7: I don't put too much stock into it. And also

849
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 7: I'm a big believer of like we we eat a

850
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: lot of vedison. I would not call my wife and

851
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 7: I trophy hunters by anybody's standard. And so lots of

852
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 7: the time, whether whether we're taking like a friend or

853
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 7: maybe my dad or maybe my friend from work, will

854
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 7: clear the field with a gun and that's how we

855
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 7: will will exit. If it comes to last light, and

856
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 7: you know there's just that stereotypical big old pot of

857
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 7: does out there feeding we'll pick the biggest one, and

858
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 7: that's how we'll clear the field in a I don't know,

859
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 7: a more semi natural way. I know that that's probably

860
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: a debatable tactic and a debatable strategy, but I like

861
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 7: that strategy a lot, just because we eat a lot

862
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 7: of medison. We tend to eat like five to ten

863
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 7: of them a year, and we also manage the property

864
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 7: properties pretty heavily for dose so that they don't become overrun.

865
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of my question. In a nutshell,

866
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 7: I brushed brushed shoulders with your question, which was how

867
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 7: much is like the diminishing or turn of scaring off

868
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 7: the number one buck day after day? And to me,

869
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 7: I think at this point, like if if you were

870
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 7: a person with a large standing grain field or maybe

871
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 7: the only food in like that mile, to me, I

872
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 7: and I know that, like you know, people have their

873
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 7: opinions on the juries. I really like watching like shows

874
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 7: like The Druries the Little Coski's because I think it

875
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: showcases what deer do completely unpressured in their natural environment,

876
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 7: how they act, how they behave, and so for that reason,

877
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 7: I really like the mantra that they kind of do,

878
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 7: Like you know, your stereotypical late season box blind in

879
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 7: the middle of a field, and they're getting in and

880
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 7: out of there each night. I have had my wife

881
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 7: pick me up before and a four wheeler to clear

882
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 7: the field. I think that's a pretty natural way of

883
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 7: doing it. But if you're hunting someplace where you can't

884
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 7: have that option, I like clearing the field with a

885
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 7: gun if you're a big venice and eater, and then

886
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 7: just cleaning up your access to make sure that you're

887
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 7: minimizing that damage. And I stay in the blind pretty

888
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 7: well after legal time. I'm not hopping out of there.

889
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 7: Like today, legal time is five oh one, five oh two.

890
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 7: I think I won't be getting out of there at five.

891
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 7: They'll be waiting till like five forty five six, and

892
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 7: hopefully it'll the cover of darkness will really take care

893
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 7: of that for me.

894
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: No, that's that's great advice. Now looking here over the

895
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: next seven days, ten being the best week of the

896
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: year to kill big old buck, one being one of

897
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: the worst weeks of the entire year. And I'm gonna

898
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add some more contacts for you, just giving

899
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the time of year and your personal strategy. You have

900
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: standing food scale one to ten. Where do you put

901
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: this upcoming week?

902
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 7: This upcoming week, I there are a couple of days

903
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 7: that I'm looking at, So I'm looking at my ten

904
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 7: day right now. Monday's looks okay high twenty five, Friday

905
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 7: looks awesome high of nineteen. Saturday and Sunday are both

906
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: of high of about ten. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

907
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 7: if you have if you have standing food or anything,

908
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 7: which I want to circle back around that that year

909
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 7: that I shot last night, he was actually pawing up

910
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 7: Brassica's before he came in to beans and so that

911
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 7: was that's what he was doing last night. So the

912
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 7: majority of my dear last night on December what was

913
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 7: last night the seventh, December sixth, December sixth hit Brassica's

914
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 7: first before they hit it. And so my score would

915
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 7: be if you have that late season food over the

916
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 7: course of the next week, with those dates that I mentioned,

917
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 7: basically Friday through Monday, Friday the twelfth through Monday the fifteenth,

918
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 7: I think that my number would be a ten for

919
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 7: your or how much I like it for Big Old Buck,

920
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 7: I think I think if you have that, I think

921
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 7: if you can write it out in your blind stay

922
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 7: a little chilly for four days, and your entrance and

923
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 7: exit isn't terrible. You're getting in nice and earlier, staying

924
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 7: kind of late. I think there is a very good

925
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 7: chance during Muzzle at a weekend, if you're an Illinois resident,

926
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 7: that you could bag a giant here.

927
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, question, I love it. Awesome.

928
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations Grant once again, appreciate you hopping on here,

929
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: and good luck to your wife here this evening.

930
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 7: All right, I'll let you know. I'll shoot you a

931
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 7: text if we whack them.

932
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: All right, folks there, you guys have it. I hope

933
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed this week's episode of Rough Fresh. Bundle up,

934
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: make the most of this cold weather, and I hope

935
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: that you have a good food source or a good

936
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: opportunity here. As we get deeper and deeper into December,

937
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: the holiday season is right around the corner.

938
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: The Rough Fresh.

939
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Season is quickly coming to a close here as well.

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00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: So hope you guys have the best week here. We

941
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: had some high scores, we had some lower scores, and

942
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: I hope everyone gets to experience a ten out of

943
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: ten week with the great late season cold weather.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, See y