WEBVTT - Rivals on the Edge w/ KellyAnne Judd 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.440 What's up everyone. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.080 I'm Tori Deal and I'm Anissa Ferreira and this is 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.520 MTV's official challenge podcast. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:11.879 And Anissa, today you were on the edge of the 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:12.639 glory hole. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.720 You know what, I will stay on this side of 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.639 the gloryhole. There was nothing glorious about this challenge. I 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.800 will say that, how did you feel about it? I 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.239 mean it's a familiar spot for you. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.520 Absolutely. I mean I have a few like first thoughts 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.319 that come to my head. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.600 One, I don't think I've ever seen this many teams quit, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:32.919 and it pissed me off. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.639 Because I get it. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.000 But also it's like if one team quits, it's like, okay, 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.760 you're the team that quit. But to have so many 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.120 teams quit, I'm like, I understand the weather was a 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.040 factor though, And I also was on top of that building. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.720 I get it. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.440 I know how tall it is and scary it is 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.440 up there, but there was just so many people who 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.800 had breakdowns. I guess, like, what was it like being 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.440 there in person? Tell me a little bit more about 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.400 the weather. I feel like that must have had a 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.280 major play us. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.560 There was a touch of wind, but it didn't help that, Like, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.160 we didn't go first, so seeing other people freak out 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.920 and quit wasn't helpful. It was like there were only 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.480 three peat three teams did this. Yeah, shout out to 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.080 Davon though she said, may the Lord give me wings 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.039 and and and just put me over just a little 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.679 bit to get this flag. But when she said, oh 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.080 that's enough, you know, she knew her boundaries and her limits, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.559 and it's cool to see that Shane and her aren't 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.840 really like at each other's throat yet. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.080 I actually was like, we got to give Davon her 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.920 credit for sure. I'm glad that you brought that up, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.720 because I was not expecting her to do it. I mean, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.880 I also don't remember if she has a fear of 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.280 fights or not, but the way she talks about it, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.039 the way she talked about it, I thought maybe she might. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:43.760 Not do it, you know. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.760 So yeah, she did it, which is amazing, like good, 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.400 good for her, great representation of the podcast. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.040 Unlike Anissa, I'm just kidding, ass. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.880 I also googled heights last night, and it is a 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.000 rational fear that most people have as a way to 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.840 protect your bodies. And I mean I googled it for 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.720 a good thirty seven thirty to forty minutes. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.000 Yeah, that's fair, and it is terrifying, and it looked 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:08.640 very scary. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.799 I was not shocked at Fessi and Amber one. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.000 It was like they were made for that, you know what. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.480 I mean, what a good way for them to start 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.120 off their season. I mean, everyone knows that they're going 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:24.240 to be a great team. Festi is incredible at daily challenges, incredible. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.280 He's he wins them often, like he's just an athletic guy. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.600 Every time I want a season with him, he's winning them. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.799 He's never done a season and not won a daily. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.000 Right, No, I totally get it. Yeah, he definitely does. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.400 And sometimes multiple in a season. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.280 At Amber is a champ, Like I think she is 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.400 somebody who because she won on her rookie season, she 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.280 kind of then had to like perform even more so 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.000 we had more information to process about Amber's competitive abilities. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:49.560 She's great. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:50.720 She's great, you know. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.120 So I am not surprised that that they won this 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.040 first one. I think watching the house drama though unfold. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:58.840 I'm like, it's so messy. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.840 It's messy, dude. And Frank is giving me life right now. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.920 Like, I mean, Frank is a gameer. He said, I 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.280 came to play Yeah. You need the people that are 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.880 going to fight. You need the people that are gonna 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.120 stir some shit up. And then you need Frank just 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.120 to be messy and smart and just in it. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.079 SESSI and messy. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.840 I fully committed. Yeah, committed to the bit and I 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.280 love it. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.919 Yeah, me too, Me too. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.840 I mean, there are a lot of cute one liners 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.720 in this a couple of zingers. I'm just so mad 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.160 because they didn't show Beth's just snap off on Nicole. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.760 Wait when did that happen. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.720 During during nominations? 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:36.200 Oh? 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.320 I think that all started with the genes. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.840 Though, Oh tell me about the gens. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:45.320 This girl's got the thirty year old jeans. The only 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.279 thing that thirty is alwa is my mortgage. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:49.880 I can't. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.160 She had true religions from when we did the dual one, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.160 but Nicole had no. Veronica's like, so Nicole's giving bad 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.000 fashion advice. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.560 Oh my god, that's so funny. I can't. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.520 What is confusing to me is the relationship dynamic between 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.880 Beth and Johnny, because they do get voted in this episode, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.600 and it does seem like Beth wants to be friends 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:13.160 with Johnny. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.760 There was that moment on the Heights Challenge where Johnny 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:16.599 gave her a hug. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.119 And for a second I was like, oh, that's really sweet. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.279 It seemed like a really genuine hug. And maybe it 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.160 was a genuine hug in that moment because you're on 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.479 top of a building, it's scary. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.760 But Beth wouldn't even have come out of that fucking building, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.200 let alone get up on there. That was like a 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.680 big thing for her. And I think that there's an 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.000 understanding piece of Johnny who's like, there's probably something she's 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.720 afraid of that she's like absolutely not. Yeah, so I 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.080 think that there was like that caring, you know, compassionate moment, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.000 but she still doesn't like her. I mean, their interviews 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.720 couldn't be more different. And it's my favorite fucking thing, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.320 the unfriend for I. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.440 Can't Yeah, the unfriending the button. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.760 Oh my god, it's so good. We'll be She was like, 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.440 I don't ever want to see her again. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.520 Yeah, they edited that good, very entertaining. Yeah, it was. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:01.479 It was funny to watch. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.800 I'm wondering though, like in person, because it looked like 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.800 they were really competing well in the elimination I mean 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:06.440 number one. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.240 Before we even get there, did you know FEESSI and 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.400 Amber we're gonna throw them in. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.680 No, yeah, or maybe I did, or maybe I did. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.880 Oh mysterious and confusing. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.120 I don't think I have an idea that John and 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.400 Beth were going in, But it's like it just gets hard. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.120 It's like I almost don't want to know if my 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.479 friends are going in because I don't want to have 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.000 to be burdened with that information. Mm hmm, because like 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.240 I also don't want to fuck over the people that 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:32.720 are in charge, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.679 it gets it's such a sticky area. But I clearly, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.680 by my expression, did not know. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:40.240 Yeah that's true. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.880 You know, I can't fake one of those. Yeah, it 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.920 was a complete that was so genuine, but it was 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:50.080 I was just like, why them, Like if your goal, yes, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.960 who you send in? You want to go home? But like, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.800 what do you want to put in somebody who threatens you? 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.720 I guess, I guess, Like what FESSI said. I think 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:58.560 Feessi's game. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.600 Is starting to become very transparent now that we've seen 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.920 him play a few times, and that's he's a really 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.200 good player. He'll stick with the strong players in the 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.280 beginning to build alliances because he'll know, he knows that 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.800 they'll owe him one if it's early in the game, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.160 and then. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.000 Zipic owe me. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:13.400 Yeah. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.800 Yeah, I mean he definitely has that like political edge 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.080 to him. He is from Big Brother, and like he 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.479 definitely thinks and strategizes the game. And I think he 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.720 knows that this has suited him well because he knows 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.839 he performs well, so people typically will not target him, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:28.240 you know. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:29.560 But we'll see how that goes. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:30.599 We'll see how it goes. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.000 Yeah, I do want to get into John Ay and 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.880 Beth competing together. Like, tell me a little bit about 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.720 what you thought what it was like to watch them 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.640 in the elimination, Like were they as good as it looked? 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.279 I mean, they did really well and it was close. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.760 You know. I know that Steve is you know, can 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.760 probably he's done I think martial arts and things like. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.479 I definitely think he's a flexible dude who wears like 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.200 eighteen raps and a headband and and a wristband and 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.120 an anklet and a knee patch and a stuff. The 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.080 guy gets suited up like an I knew that he 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.479 would do well. I wasn't sure about Adam in that, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.720 and I thought women would do well with like being 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.040 more flexible, agile and like tinier bodies. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.600 Yeah, that's what I thought. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.240 I just I don't know. I just didn't see I 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.920 get like FESSEI, I guess had some type of strategy 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.360 to keep certain players happy. But there were people he 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.600 had zero connection with that I don't even I didn't 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.760 even think he even had a conversation with that. He 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.800 could have put in Amber and him both. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.560 Could have put in Yeah, it was interesting. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.120 But here's the other thing. Hold on, I like Bulb, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.640 Amber and FESSI don't have a star. Why wouldn't you 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:40.080 save certain people for yourself. Yeah, that's another thing you 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.480 need to think of. Let me fucking chalk myself up 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.200 on that one. Sorry, I had to give myself a point. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.960 That's one thing. And the other part was FESSI and 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.760 Amber are good. The chances of them winning other challenges 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.240 are high. So if you know you're going to be 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.040 in that position. Again, it's also like, don't say the 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.080 hardest players for the end for you to go into 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.720 elimination to get your star. Yeah, so you gotta be 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.840 really really smart about this. Well, I also think that, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:10.440 but it's early. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:11.920 Yeah, it's early. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.440 And when they stood up there and they looked at 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.760 the elimination. They saw it was a tube. They must 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.080 have figured we're going in the tube. Fessi is the 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.239 size of the tube. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.720 He probably nickname is tube Like. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.360 It's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.240 But I could understand why Fessi and Amber didn't go 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.720 in this one. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:29.000 They didn't have to. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.440 This elimination did not suit anybody of size. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.280 So if Katie and Katie were a team yep, or 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.439 Melissa Melissa were a team. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.199 Yeah, oh yeah, easy bye. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.679 Or Melissa and Katie, yeah, y it definitely suited they 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.240 live it. They could have a tiny home. They could 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:46.280 have made that into a tiny home. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.360 Yeah it was a house. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.319 Yeah, it was on Zillow. It was a tiny home 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.480 with poles in it. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:51.760 Yeah. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.960 Oh yeah. It's just listen. I think that I know 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:01.040 that this season is only going to get spicier and spicier. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.200 But I'd like to ask you, miss Tory deal, who 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.760 was your all star of the episode. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.440 The all star of the episode was the producer who 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.960 had the shot of Veronica's face when everyone was in deliberation, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.079 And Nicole said, who told. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:22.920 Adam and Steve that Veronica's face was so good. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:27.680 She's like, oh my god, I gotta give it to 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.480 Veronica because what a political move. She's looking out for 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.600 her friends, she's keeping her hands clean. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.520 The Blaine's getting put on someone else. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.280 Like, I'm so confused. Is I don't even know if 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.600 Veronica did tell them because that's how good she is. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:40.760 And I just watched the episode. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.640 It's like, see how good she is. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.040 And so who stood out to you the most of 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.640 this episode? 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.560 I mean, I love Frank and it's not because I 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.440 love him, and it's not because he's a dear friend 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.959 of mine, and it's not because we talk outside of 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.800 the show and we've been friends for years. It's because 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:02.840 I have missed him and this thing that he is 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.320 doing because we call it messy because you know, because 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:10.320 it's because it's messy, but it's so so like he 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.679 thinks about things, so it's like smart messy and you know, 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.040 besides just being like super athletic to have the brain 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.760 to go with it. That just thank you, And I 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.760 cannot wait for more interviews with him because he is 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:25.480 beautiful too. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.400 I one hundred percent agree. And what about the challenger 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.160 that confused you? 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.239 The most this episode. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.160 I mean, I gotta say Beth, because I don't know 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.200 how she didn't know. Maybe maybe Johnny. Just I was 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.160 just so confused, Like how do they not know that 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.679 each other is they're looking at each other differently. I 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:44.440 was just confused. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:45.640 It seemed like. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.880 Beth really wanted there to be a resolve. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.080 It seemed like a genuine I want there to be 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.560 a resolve, and I think she wanted to right her wrongs. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.520 It felt like that, and she was kind of looking 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.640 for john A to be like okay, like let's move 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.000 past it. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.000 But john A, I think is over it and not interested. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.360 Well, Beth and Johnny were very emotional when they got 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.439 back to the house. Oh they told me she loved me. Wow, 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.400 heard it here. First, going home to pack your stuff 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.560 is one of the most old school things they could 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.400 have ever brought back. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.839 That's a fact. That was cool. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.560 But it was only fifteen minutes, like get all your shit. Yeah, 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.240 but it normally was the whole night, like you got 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.600 to party whenever you were packed, you had drinks, you 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.400 were dressed, like get showered. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.600 Dude, that's fun. Why don't they bring that back? 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.959 This's messy too, because the people that voted you and 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.560 could easily just hide from you or not talk to you, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.160 or you could come back and stir up some shit 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.720 like such and such said this about you, and this 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.640 person said that about you, and I'm out of here. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:39.600 Yeah, like why not. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.760 I think it'll get I think it'll get MESSI er 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.679 as people start going home and people start getting their 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.200 feelings hurt, people are going to cut the cord. They're 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.719 going to be like, fuck it, I'm actually going to 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.200 tell you every single thing, and that fifteen minutes is 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.360 going to be very insightful. And that's all I'm teasing. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.960 I love it. It's so so good. I have to 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:56.440 agree with you. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.800 With the challenger I'm most confused by. I also feel 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.080 like it came from a genuine place. It seemed like 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.480 it did with Beth. So I just think that there's 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.680 just a lot of question marks around what's going on 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.760 with John Ay and Beth. But unfortunately we're not going 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.559 to get to see it after this because this was 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.120 the end of their episode. But you know what, who 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.560 really ended the episode off was KellyAnn and Sylvia, and 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.880 I am very interested to hear what's going on with them, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.800 and we're going to hear it straight from Kellyn's mouth 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.840 because she's coming on the podcast right after this break, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:39.400 So stay tuned, guys. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.760 All right, everybody, welcome back. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.320 I am so excited to get into this next portion 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.560 of the podcast. We are about to interview somebody that 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.720 I look up to in many ways. You may have 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.560 seen her on her original season of the Island or 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.959 more recently when she was on season forty where she 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.120 almost won that not so fast eliminated against Carl Maria. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:06.560 She is an animal icon, an advocate, and truly an angel. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.679 So it's such a pleasure to have Kelly Anne on 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:09.600 the podcast. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:10.400 Welcome Kelly. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.800 Yeah, thank you, Tory. That was so sweet. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.400 It came from the heart honestly, like, I'm thrilled to 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.880 have you on this episode. We always get slated before 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.400 we were about to do the podcast with who the 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.000 guest is going to be, so I was nervous. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.800 I was like, no, are we interviewing Kelly Ane so 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.400 early because like she gets eliminated. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.280 Thank god, this episode wasn't your elimination. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.840 Kelly Ane's no stranger to the Challenge to All Stars. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.520 We did the first All Stars together. That was fun. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.280 What was your reaction to finding out it was rivals. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.280 When you looked on that stay around on that stage. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.720 You know, and by the time we were on the plane, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.079 you know, you start to hear the rumors. And I 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.599 really when I didn't think, I didn't know to the 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.760 day we were leaving that Sylvia was there. And I 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.720 didn't think there was any chance that Sylvia would be 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.440 on it because I knew she had just had a child, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.199 and I was like, I didn't know exactly how long ago, 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:02.600 but I knew it was recent. So I guess you 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.400 probably just got cleared even be physical by the. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.600 Doctor's like a recommendation, right. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.840 So it's like I didn't think she was even capable 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.440 of doing a show yet, right, And so there was 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.439 I thought, maybe I'll get john A, and john A 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.400 and I get along great. I'm like, sure, I can't 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.560 really trust Johnny and certain things that she says. I mean, 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.400 even with you know, her and BEF being friends. She's like, yeah, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.040 give me a call, but then she's like, we're not 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.560 going to be friends. So it's like, you don't really 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.960 know what john as thinking. But I knew that Johnny 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.120 and I get along great. She's she's nice to be around. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.160 She's small and all these things that I enjoy, So 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.240 I'm like, I can be her rival and do really well. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.480 Yeah, you guys would have been a good pair. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.160 Yeah, Sylvie and I just we I actually really wanted 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.920 Sylvia to like me and All Stars three. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.640 Ye, I really did, and she hated me, and it 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.760 was hard. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.120 It was hard to be hated so deeply and you 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.080 like her, yeah, and All Stars three I did the 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.640 first like week, and then she kept being so awful, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.680 you know, well fucking eternity. But and then and then 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.320 by the time she just kept hating on me, I 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.000 was like, yeah, you kind of are awful, But it 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.080 was only because I didn't understand why she hated me. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.600 Cypia has a lot of great qualities, I mean a 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:16.920 lot of great qualities. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.920 So yeah, she's very likable. That's what made it so hard. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.680 Yeah, I think that's really tough, and I can relate. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.000 I feel like I have been in a situation where 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.200 I didn't know why someone didn't like me, you know, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.000 and and they just don't like you, and then that, uh, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.320 of course, of course your reaction is going to be, well, 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.080 I don't like you back, you know, I'm not gonna 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.520 like somebody who doesn't like me, So. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.360 I I can totally relate to that. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.400 And you know, I think it is just a matter 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.880 of oil and water. Some people mix and some people don't. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.320 But well not everyone's meant to be friends, you know. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.480 Definitely is a respect thing that I think she all followed. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.320 But like, we're also on reality television, so it teeters 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.600 on that, like should it be kind of trashy and whatever, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.240 or should we all you know, follow this like moral guide. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.880 We're high strong, Yeah, we're high strong. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.320 It is intense environment, so you're not your best self 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.720 in general, of course, and you're fighting for money and 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.400 you don't know who's going to stab you in the back. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.200 I was also we were up planning weddings on Type 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.119 and I did two challenge in the middle. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.360 Of that, So it was just a lot going on. 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.320 But she she was going around telling everyone like how 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.480 much I was like the worst and this is literally 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:30.480 a voting game. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.840 She was telling people about her partner being the worst. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.880 It's like, okay, so not only are you not willing 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.320 to do the challenge, but now you're going to go 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.680 around hurting our political game. Like it just it was 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.680 a lot so I was really but it was all 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.520 on high emotion. Sylvia has a lot of emotion and 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.160 she guards herself, but I know that the people she 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.720 loves she's very very good too, and so she's. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.880 Just a hard a hard nut to crack man. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.160 But what's crazy is I think that taking inventory on 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:08.320 the house not inventory. Yes, it did take inventory inventory. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.960 I I saw that a lot of people talked about 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.119 their partners. You know, there was a lot of like 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.639 insecurity and just kind of like where is this going 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.640 to go? How is this going to work? But even 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.720 even people that were friends were like, I really have 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.679 to be in the room with this person, you know, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.119