1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle, a New York Giants podcast. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: John Schmolke with you today's guest, former Giants wide receiver 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Hakim Knicks, before we get to a chema on our mind. Everybody. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: You can find The Giant Subtle Podcast on all your 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms, Giants dot com and the Giants Mobile app, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: and of course, if you're on one of those podcast platforms, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: please subscribe. If for an Apple podcast, please leave a 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: five star positive review. And now we're joined by our guest, 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: former Giants wide receiver Hakim Knicks. Achim, it's good to 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: talk to you man, John schmulk up here in New Jersey. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Hope you're in your family. Everybody's safe in doing well. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: Hey man, thanks for having me. Everybody doing pretty well 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: my way, excellent. Good to hear. All right, let's let's 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: get right to it. Man. You think back to that 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven season. You have to think about Hachem Knicks. 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: At one point that year, Hakim, did you think that 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: team had something in it to do something special? I 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: think our turned the point probably was when uh, you 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: know that that Christmas game against the Jets, when we 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: know we needed it, But earlier that year, I knew 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: we had it. We knew the talent was there. It 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: was just a matter of everybody, you know, doing their 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: job and focusing in on their job and locking in 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: and being all in, like Coach Cortin told us, and 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: focusing on finishing. And once we put all that together, man, 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: that's when, that's when the results came. What allowed you 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: guys to come together and finish games the way you 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: did that year. You go back, Eli Manning stats in 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that year are some of the most 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: ridiculous things you will ever ever see. What came together 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: for your offense that allows you to finish in the 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the way you did. Um, I think 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: that goes out, you know, goes to every everybody that 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: had a hand and on it, you know, with the offense. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: But the way we practice, we practiced every scenario that 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: you could possibly stay and coach gilbride offense with giving 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: us the options to read routes and run burn more 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: than one route with one play being called and keeping 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: the defense on his heels. Um just assimilating the fast 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: two minutes, two minutes drill. That's something that we practiced 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: all year and then um, whenever we had to put 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: it out in the game. Man, it just came. We 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: had playmakers at every position, there was wanting the ball 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: at all times, so it was just bound to happen. 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that Kevin Gilbride 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: system why it worked so well when you had receivers 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: like you and Victor of that understood the offense, understood defenses. 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Why did that offense where you had those different options 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: based on how the defense was playing you in the 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: middle of a play that really helped you guys succeed 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the way you did well. I mean, because you know 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: to keep the defense on his heels, and once you 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: know what the defense is going, if you're coming out 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: on third and five to five and seven, you know, 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: and you know by your studies that they're probably gonna 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: be playing some type of three coverage, you know, a 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: press bell or something like that, and we would know 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that going in so that we could practice. We probably 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: would have, you know, practice two plays that we wanted 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: to run, and then we would give different looks to 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: where we had to practice practice those routes versus all looks. 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: And then came come game time, we was locked in 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: once once we've seen it. Look, we already knew what 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: we had to run already, just based off how the 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: safeties were sitting on, how the corners will be playing. 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: How did Eli's intelligence in the work you guys did 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: over the course of the week, working with you guys 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and all the great film work you did, helped make 70 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: that possible because you saw sometimes when when you guys 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: got hurt another wide receiver came in, it didn't work 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: quite as smoothly. Right, Yeah, But Eli, we we put 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot of time and where he man, he was 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: one of the if not the most you know, film 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: studies guy on the team. And you know he had 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: been there six in the morning on all day, you know, 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: already going over defensive coverages for who were about to 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: play that next week. So um, Eli man, he and 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: he always just keeps us up on it. He might 80 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: just say something here and they're like hey. He's like, hey, 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I can see this. Look right here. We're gonna try 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: to get the skinny posting backside, but look the safety 83 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: off and come back. You know you're gonna catch it 84 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: high and high and wide away from everybody in the 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: back of the end zone type of the choice, and 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: you know that's what we do. We practice it, then 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: we go out there, we get the look we executed, 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and I seem like you and Eli had a great 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: feel for that back shoulder throw, which is in my 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: opinion that came and you can please correct me if 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: you think I'm wrong. One of the most difficult passes 92 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: to master between a quarterback and a wide receiver because 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: so much of it is about feeling timing. How did 94 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: you and he developed that chemistry to succeed at that 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: back shoulder catch the way you did. I think elis 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: just so accurate. Elij It's always made it so temper 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: for me. He would just be like, just run, try 98 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to run to go round. He was like trying to 99 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: run to go rounte. And if you beat him over 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the top on the throat, over the top, and if 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: if he's right beside you were going top of you 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna hit that back shoulder and 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: sheld me playing basket about my whole life. That was 104 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: just nothing but a drop. Still, when you have that 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: play in your back pocket, does that really make it 106 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: impossible for the corner to beat you because you basically 107 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: have an answer for whatever he's doing here, right. Uh, 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: most definitely unless unless they play that too man, and 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: then you gotta try to beat him on and cut 110 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: or something. Absolutely, but then you got the safety over 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the top, you got the corner and trail. But yeah, 112 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: defenses don't show that much when you have the running game, 113 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: you guys. Uh, you guys certainly had was Eli as 114 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: calm Hakim in the huddle in those big moments in 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter as calm as We think he all 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: was watching from the outside in Oh, yeah, that was cool. 117 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: He was calm, man. That's what that comes. And I 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: think it showed up in the playoffs. You know, you 119 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: look at that postseason run, Eli was fantastic, and I 120 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: think your numbers get lost in it sometimes. Man. You 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: had three hundred yard games, you had four touchdowns. What 122 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: clicked for you during that playoff run in two thousand 123 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: eleven where you were able to be as productive as 124 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: you were, I would just say just the opportunity and 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, just being on that big stage, you want 126 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: to wanting to get it done. You know, it was 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: the first time being in the playoffs, so you know, 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: I was hungly. Now, in that first game against Atlanta, 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: they were leading to nothing, believe it or not, for 130 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot of that game. You had that four yard 131 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: touchdown to give the Giants to lead. Then you had 132 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: the seventy two yard running catch later on when you 133 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: caught those two touchdowns. How much of that was just 134 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: a really big sigh of relief in and kind of 135 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: a Russia confidence in adrenal, not just for you and 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: the team. We knew, man, we knew was the way 137 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: the defense was playing. We knew we was gonna click. Um. 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: We knew that that offense was gonna meant that defense 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: was gonna finally wear down and start opening some things up. 140 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: That we knew somebody to switch up in the second half, 141 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: and we just did it. Man, We just made place 142 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: because gil I was doing a good job. They're calling 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: the place while receivers doing a good job in the run. 144 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: In the run game, block in the stafeties in the 145 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: corners and give him brass shot on uh Brandon Jacobs 146 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: the sidelines and increases they needed. And then in that 147 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: game against the Packers, a keem, it was a real 148 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: tight game. You had at sixty six yard touchdown, the 149 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: big play. I really thought that thirty seven yard hell 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: Mary grab you had, which kind of opened up the 151 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: game a little bit at the end of the half, 152 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: really just changed the entire tenor of that game. So 153 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Manimus definitely not took the win. Right about them the 154 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: way that they, you know, came out that second half, 155 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: they was real flat. You know, then we we took 156 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: off from this. That gave us the momentum and it 157 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: took the momentum from them. How tough a kiam was 158 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: that forty Niners defense in that NFC Championship game. I 159 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: was looking at that game the other day. I think 160 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: at some point there were like ten straight possessions where 161 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: neither team scored. What was it about that game that 162 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: made it so tough to get the ball in the 163 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: end zone? Man? That was the defense defense the game 164 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: right there. Man, they they rised on. Defense is probably 165 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: one of the top defenses the year they were stouted. Man, 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: they were back and you had to be very strategic 167 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: game at beating him and scoring on them. So I 168 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: think you know through the course of the game that 169 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: it opened up for us, But you know, just like 170 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the testament, you gotta figure it out at first, which 171 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: is badly. They had some good defense, defense stops. We 172 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: had good defense stops. And the thing about it, Coach 173 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Conslin till it was gonna be uh going over time. 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: So we we would expecting, you know, a hardcore game 175 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just expecting to come out on top. 176 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that not one person on our team 177 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: or sidelines out of that. A few more questions for 178 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: a team. Next, let's go to the Super Bowl team. 179 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you've seen up with the 180 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: famous Bill Belichick quote from the sideline of that game 181 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: that NFL films captured. You know, just take away cruising 182 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Nixon and we'll figure out a way to win the game. 183 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Did you notice over the course of that game that 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots are paying a little bit extra attention to 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: you outside that you weren't gonna be able to make 186 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: some of those big plays you made previously in the postseason. 187 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Most definitely, I knew it was going to be a 188 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: slam game. For as they're going into the game, I said, 189 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: IM gonna have to attack the scenes and slam. Actually 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Coach Gil right to um he like him. Then you know, 191 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: when we get our one on one opportunities, thing you 192 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. But he said, right now, we 193 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, we need you to need that possession to 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: receive him to get us that up and down the field. 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: And so I was just whatever they told me to do. Man. 196 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: Then you know certain places they called had to read 197 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the defense and you know catch catch it in the 198 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: scenes and between the linebackers and the safety. So it 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: was just a matter of advantages going out there and 200 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: playing above the excess and nose, so to speak. Over 201 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: the course of that game a team, what was the 202 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster like? It was so back and forth 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: the score late to put the game over the top, 204 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: just staying with it. Know when you're playing such a 205 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: good and and world coach team, Well, we knew it 206 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: was gonna go down to the wire. We couldn't. Couldn't 207 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: just no in our mind like, hey, well who we 208 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: could let up now and everything to be okay. Now 209 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: we had to fight down for that clock zero, and 210 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: we knew that going into the game. You know, King, 211 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: just in terms of your career, how tough was it 212 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to overcome what just seemed like some lower body 213 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: injuries that that you just couldn't avoid, And why that 214 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: you played through you the surgery and may have twelve 215 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: with the foot. Then you played through a knee injury 216 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: in twelve that you suffered earlier in the year, you 217 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: had the compartment syndrome roller in your career. Just what 218 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: was that like trying to play through and fight through 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: those injuries. Because I know I was there. You would 220 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: never want to talk about him or complain about it. 221 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: You just played and man, it most definitely that we 222 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: took the ways out of my mouth. That's the only 223 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: thing you could do. Just mess suck it up and 224 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: play and the honest season. You know here look man, 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: but you know physical physical sport, man, You know things 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: like that can happen. Unfortunately, it just took a took 227 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: a way on me a little bit earlier in my career. 228 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: But um man, hey, I just played hard. Man. If 229 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: I tell everybody in the ass and I just played 230 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: physic going hard. Now, I gotta ask you this because 231 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: this was never official, but I had heard it and 232 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if it was true. When you 233 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: got drafted a team that first year, did you have 234 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: some feet issues already early in that first season that 235 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: you have to play through? Yeah? I did. I had 236 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: actually broke my toe the first, my first game of 237 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: the season, my book year, and that's when I set 238 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: out to two weeks and then when I would need surgery. 239 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: I just came back week before against Gandy City. Didn't 240 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: finished the season and had surject into the season, you know. 241 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: And for a wide receiver man feet, knees, I got 242 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: to imagine just coming in out of your breaks trying 243 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: to be explosive. That's gotta be a real tough thing 244 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: to play through weekend week out, right, Oh man, most definitely, 245 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: in most definitely is manly. You need to see in 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: your need. But um, you know, all my injuries hit 247 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: me early early in my career, I guess. And I 248 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: went went through college and everything in high school without 249 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: no real names plain injuries other than a couple of 250 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: ankle sprains. So you know, I just my dad, Like 251 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: my dad would tell me, they're just breaking you in, right, 252 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: They're just breaking you in by trying. You know, twenty seven, 253 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: your body bedn't got back real strong in which I've seen, um, 254 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, but once that age it, man, when I 255 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: was about twenty five and I still was giving it 256 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: to go, I was actually like completely healthy, just couldn't 257 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: find really the right situation. Right. So Kim, what are 258 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: you doing now? How are you keeping busy? And uh 259 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: what are your plans now moving forward? Uh? Well right now, 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, like some quarantine and I just do my 261 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: kids every day. Man, my stunt worked out in our 262 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: gym every day. It's about spend a lot of family times. 263 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I got some uh, some young athletes I got trained 264 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: as well. Um, you know, so they can keep keep going, 265 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: keep going. Got some of guys that, uh you know, 266 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: did I train like that? Other than that, man, I 267 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: can't do too much right other than to be with 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: the family. Daniel Jones, you're a chance to watch him much. 269 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: I know he's a duke guy. Don't hold that against 270 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: him now, But what do you think of Jones? Man, 271 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: he's from Charlotte, you know, I like them. I think 272 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: he's gonna be uh. I think he's gonna be a great, 273 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: great court of that for the for the Giant. And 274 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: then finally, every year we're breaking down these wide receivers 275 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, and someone that's played the 276 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: position of team, what do you think the most important 277 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: thing when you look at wide receivers coming out of 278 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: college and a value winning receivers that they have to 279 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: be good at if they're gonna make it in the NFL. Smart. 280 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta be smart, man, because receivers now 281 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: the way the game is now, Man, you gotta you 282 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: line up inchside, lineup outside, the line up in a 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: tighten slat side. You know it's different now and every 284 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: offense and you are running in the same ground. So 285 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: you just gotta be very interchangeable. So I would you know, 286 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: I would say, just have a mindset to be ready 287 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: to you know, play up and down the line from 288 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the inside, from a receiver to the outside receiver. You know, 289 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: just have to have a whole uson you know, Kim, 290 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: I gotta follow off them. Because I think you talked 291 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: about being interchangeable. I thought you and Victor complimented each 292 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: other perfectly. What was about your combination and the way 293 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: you guys played together and complimented each other that you 294 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: think help make that offense go the way it did. 295 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: I think because we both really had all around games 296 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: and we could have both did any anything, whether he 297 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: going outside and run a go route, or whether I 298 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: go to the outside or bund the post route or 299 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: vice versa, or its going to flat and run a 300 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: little big or hitch or hook and take it to distance. 301 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, we both was we both was good at that. 302 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: That's what was so interchange when Mario Manahan was too 303 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, so it was actually it was all of 304 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: us know he was all interchange. Interchange. But that and 305 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: the final question, believe it or not, next year came 306 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: ten year anniversary of the eleven Super Bowl. Does it 307 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: seem like it was that far away? And some tells 308 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: me we're gonna see upr You're looking forward to doing 309 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: a little two thousand eleven celebration next year. Oh, man, 310 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I cannot wait for it. And it definitely, Man, 311 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: it seemed like it wasn't that long ago. Man, But hey, 312 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: I think about it all the time. Hey, so do 313 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: we came? Do you? But do you have any message 314 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: for Giant fans out there that are that that that 315 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: maybe you just want to convey to him? Man, stay healthy, um, 316 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: stay safe and much love on the next time. Well, 317 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: much love back down to you from Giants Nation and 318 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: came thanks a lot, man, We appreciate the time. All right, thanks, 319 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: that's former Giants Wide receive her a cheam Nicks joining 320 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: us on the Giants Subtle Podcast again. 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