WEBVTT - Sasha and Naomi Walk Out 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.319 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:15.080 let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.759 here on or wrestling him over live. We are here 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.040 every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Stern, Sunday 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:30.360 three Pacific six Eastern. Well, Hi, everybody Tuesday here on 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.560 this program. What are we gonna have to talk about 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.280 here today? Anything going on? Well, yes, some stuff is 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:43.440 going on, and uh yes, we'll talk about Sasha, Naomi Raw, 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.360 the whole shebang coming up here after the break, but 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.720 I don't want to mention very quickly today. Best wishes 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.080 to Mike Simper Vivie not gonna be on the show today. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.120 Still sick, although I believe that he said he's starting 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:01.560 to feel a little bit better, but he's still sick. Also, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.200 Tuesday's we are normally scheduled to do a figure for 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.560 dealing with a land storm at two Pacific, five Eastern. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:13.160 No show today because Lance felt that I was not 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.640 showing him enough respect. He walked into my office, he 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.119 put his microphone on the table, and he left. So 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:25.000 no show with Lance today. Of course that's not true. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.920 But what is true, unfortunately, is that Lance Storm has COVID, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.039 and so best wishes to Lance on a speedy recovery. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.360 I believe he's also starting to feel a little bit 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.440 better here today, but you know how that goes. We'll 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.240 see if if the recovery continues or if he has 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.000 those ups and downs a lot of people have. But 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.480 best wishes to Lance and we will get him back 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.360 on the show, hopefully next Tuesday. So so best wishes 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.640 to him. Wanted to get the important health really to 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.760 stuff out of the way first, because at the end 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:04.120 of the day, Sasha Bank Naomi, they walked out of 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:10.799 a company over a disagreement regarding who is going to 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.920 win some matches. I realized this is the most talked 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.240 about story, but what is more important everybody is people's health. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.880 But yes, I'll get into that story after the break. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.720 I got a lot to get into back in a moment. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:33.160 Its over live, a diffiness time duty, you're not kind 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:44.560 of seeing the shack time the range. But that to 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.680 back on the show right now. But is here wrestling 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:55.959 observer alive. I'm Mike Simp for VV today, no co host. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.200 I don't need one today. There's a lot of stuff 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:04.560 we can talk about, yere Yes, Sasha and Naomi. Where 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:09.480 to begin on this story? Well, yesterday on Observer Live, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.520 I guess we started the beginning right now, how we 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.360 always start. Yesterday Observer Live, I had the lineup for 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.079 a raw, which was of course non existing. As always, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.800 we knew that Omas was going to face Bobby Lashly 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.720 in a cage match, and that was it by the 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.280 time the show went off the year and the show 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.920 went off the year at you know three Eastern show starts, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:33.880 it made or whatever. So in the afternoon they I 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.280 guess announced I presume on social media. I'm not much 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.600 of a social media guy, to be honest. Then they 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.760 were gonna be doing a six pack challenge and the 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.960 winner was going to get Bianca bell Air at the 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.040 Helen a Cell pay per view, which is quite frankly 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.960 a total throwaway pay per view. I think the main 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.960 event is Cody and seth rawlins for the third time 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.680 with nothing on the line, just a Helen his Cell match. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.280 And uh so they had a six pack challenge announced, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.600 and Nicky ash and do Drop and Becky Lynch and 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:12.680 Oscar and Sasha and Naomi, by the way, are the 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.320 women's tag team champions. They are all gonna be in 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:21.680 this in this match. Okay, So what happened was there 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.520 was a disagreement between Vince McMahon and Sasha Banks. Will 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.600 go into more details here in a while, but they 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:33.960 added disagreement and uh, Sasha and Naomi left. They left 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.440 the building. And this happened as the show was on 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.839 the air. Okay, so about forty five minutes of the show, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.720 it was like before a commercial break, they cut backstage 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:49.520 and Adam Pierce is furiously texting on his phone and 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.280 Becky is there, and you just hear Becky say something 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.960 like I saw them they put their belts on the 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.360 desk and they just walked out, And then we go 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:02.880 to commercial and we come back and essentially they shot 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.280 a very quick angle where Becky explains that she she 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.159 saw Sasha and Naomi put their belts on the desk 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.159 and walk out, and so therefore there can't be a 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.280 six pack challenge, and so she wants to just be 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.720 named the number one contender, and Adam Pierce ends up ruling, well, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.680 it's gonna be you and Oscar one on one and 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.640 the winner against Bianca bell Air. I don't know this one, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.640 but the impression I've been given is that neither of 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.400 them actually had any idea what was really going on, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.480 and they were just told go in there and do 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.640 this quick. And so they went in there and they 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.960 did it, and uh, allegedly, you know, Becky, just on 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.880 the fly, came up with, okay, well let's just do 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:48.919 this now. Why in storyline, if Sasha and Naomi walked out, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.680 they didn't just make it a four way they took 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.080 do drop and Nicki ash out as well. I don't know, 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:01.360 but my presumption is that they figure yeared okay, well, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.640 they only have two hours to prepare for this six 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.240 minute match, and we'll just have you know, two good 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.360 workers that we know can pull it off in six 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.560 minutes go out there and do it. Plus they've been 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.200 working on the road. So apparently that's why Nicki ash 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 And and dew Trump ended up not in the match. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:24.479 So they left and w W E then issued a 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:29.880 statement during raw. Okay, I was gonna have faunt Leroy 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.240 read it, but we'll be serious here, as serious as 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.359 we can be for this preposterous story. I'll read it 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.760 and then maybe faont Lerie can read it later. When 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.640 Sasha Banks and Naomi this is written. This is from 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:47.120 w w E. When Sasha Banks and Naomi arrived at 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.839 the arena this afternoon, they were informed of their participation 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.000 in the main event of tonight's Monday Night Raw. During 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.320 the broadcast, they walked into w w E Head of 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.799 Talent Relations, John Loria Nitis's office, her suitcases in hand, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.560 placed their Tag Team championship belts on his desk, and 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.960 walked out. They claimed they were not expected enough as 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.480 tag team champions and even though they had eight hours. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:19.800 Even though they had eight hours to rehearse and construct 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.360 their match, they claimed they were uncomfortable in the ring 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.760 with two of their opponents, even though they'd had matches 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:32.640 with those individuals in the past with no consequence. Monday 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.920 Night Raw is a scripted live TV show whose characters 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:41.320 are expected to perform the requirements of their contract. We regret, 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.080 I'm gonna try and say this with a straight face. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:49.400 We regret we were unable to deliver as advertised tonight's 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:55.600 main event. That's what they said. So we had a 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.200 couple of notes here, uh there. There was a big 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.960 article it p w Insider, which largely jives with everything 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.040 that I heard, and so I'm gonna read that here 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.520 and then we will we'll talk about more stuff that 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:15.120 I heard. So uh, details still light regarding exactly what happened. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.440 This is actually from mussel observer dot com. The sources 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.280 p W Insider what caused Sasha Banks and Naomi to 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.760 walk out of Raw Monday One Tuesday report has a 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.520 version of what led to w w E s Take 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.640 Team Champions leaving Cordia. P w Insider the plan for 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.280 Raw was at Banks and Naomi would go head to 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.280 head in the planned six pack challenge, with Naomi getting 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.920 to challenge Raw Women's Champion Biaka bell Air at Helen 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.920 his Cell. The report went on to say, there is 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.079 a belief this Friday, Smackdan would kick off at Angle 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.200 to set up Banks versus SmackDown Women's Champion Rohnda Rousey 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.600 at Helen his Cell, with both Banks and Naomi losing 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.679 at the event. I pitched alternative idea including Dewdrop and 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.200 nicky Ash that would have set up a different program 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.280 was not gone with, leading to the two eventually informing 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.400 John lord Ius they were leaving and handing over the 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.640 titles on the post. Raw Observer Radio Dave Meltzer said 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.480 the two went to Vince McMahon about the creative plan. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 Vince did not back down, did not agree to what 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.199 they were asking. The report said. McMahon learned of their departure, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.200 reportedly right as Raw was going live with the eventual 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.360 Becky Lynch Adam Pierce segment, pitched and approved on the spot, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:22.640 which led to the Lynch versus Oscar match. So uh, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.800 people the inside the rights. The belief among some is 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.440 that the creative issue is not with Banks losing to Naomi, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.120 but how the duo would have been portrayed over the 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.080 next several weeks, especially after they had put so much 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.040 time into building their team. Once Vince McMahon issued an 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.600 edict that they would be teaming and winning the women's 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.480 tag team titles at WrestleMania thirty eight, and that after 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.760 diving into building that team, they were going to wrestle 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.400 each other and go off to put over other talents, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.000 leaving them exactly where, which apparently was the crux of 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:55.120 the issue. I guess back where they started. The w 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.880 w E plan looks to have been the w w 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.080 WE Wins Take Team Champions would have been downplayed until 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.760 their next program after Helen his Cell and Wade Keller 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.520 refuted the statement about not trusting their opponents, saying, I 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.480 can just say I have asked around. There wasn't a 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.160 pre existing issue with Naomi and Sasha and anyone in 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.880 that match. He also said there was not much sympathy 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.440 backstage towards either woman, nor a sense of them taking 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.520 a stand for something people agreed with, and as of now, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:29.600 both women still in the active roster. So I did 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.800 hear that story that Naomi was supposed to win the 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.280 six pack Challenge, Naomi was going to go on to 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.640 Helen's Cell, Sasha Banks was going to do a feud 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.280 with Ronda Rousey and have a championship match at Helen 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.200 his Cell. So both of the tag team champions would 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.679 be challenging for the singles titles and they would lose. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:58.320 And this apparently upset Sasha and Naomi because they have 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.800 done such a great job in their minds of building 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:08.959 their team up since winning the titles at WrestleMania. If 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.199 you're watching the video right now and you're looking in 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.600 my face, yes, I find this whole thing to be 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.360 completely preposterous. Do they not remember back in the day 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.000 where when you were gonna build up a champion that 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.120 that person beat the tag team champions one on two 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.440 literally in a handicap match. The tag team champions would 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.760 often do jobs for the champion. I mean, I I understand, like, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.720 you know, being happy to win the titles at Maine 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.960 and everything, but what's going on here? You've built up 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.000 this team to such a degree that you can't do 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.280 a job to the singles champions at Helen a Cell. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.079 Have I been watching a different Ron SmackDown where Sasha 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:54.480 Banks and Naomi are this huge, popular, fantastically over main 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.080 event tag team act. Have I missed that aspect of 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.640 the television, because when I watched the show, they're the 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.440 women's tag team champions and they're getting the same pops 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.400 they got before. The belts are exactly a position largely 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.480 is there. I mean, I got a lot more to 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.800 say after this, after the break, but I don't got 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.760 a lot of sympathy. And I think one of the 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.480 keys of the story is bro I ain't the only 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.280 one that has no sympathy. Back in the moment, sever 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:34.360 live back in the show, Brian Elba is here wrestling 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:39.520 observer live, Mike and Bervit out here today. Hey, listen, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:45.600 anytime I've dealt with this before, any time you dare 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.760 say anything negative about Sasha here they come. So I 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.360 guess I can have to deal with that here today. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.079 But hey, you know what's funny is whatever I say 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.439 about Sasha Banks today or Naomi or whoever, they're gonna 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.280 you know, they'll come after me. And then those same 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.280 fans will be in the building when Fitzbigmhan comes out 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:09.080 and they'll all a bow to him. So anyway, I've 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.320 seen already some defenses of oh my god, well you know, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.240 and it's true. We we only know one side of 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.040 the story here. We only know w W E s 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:22.600 side of the story. But I've heard several versions of 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.640 the story and they're all largely the same. That Sasha 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:30.160 didn't like the booking and she left. And what's interesting is, Bro, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.640 there's been some horrible booking in this company. And your 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.600 issue is that the Tag Team Champions, but one of 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.319 the Tag Team, one half of the Tag Team Champion, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.920 is gonna win a six pack challenge over the Top 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.800 Women on Raw and then she's gonna go to headline 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.560 of pay per view against the champion and then lose 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.040 in the end and somehow that's a down grade. And 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.840 then the other one is going to start a feud 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.040 with Rhonda Rousey, the champion, and they're gonna go back 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.959 and forth and do a bunch of angles leading to 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.600 a championship match at a paper view, which he's gonna lose. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.920 And apparently this is like, you know, this is just 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.840 horrible that the women's Take Team champions will being shambles 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.480 after this. Okay, so listen, if if if you think 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.720 that this is just like whatever, here's I'm gonna tell 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.800 you about. You're welcome to think whatever you want inside 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.599 with whoever you want. Okay, but ill me tell you 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:25.760 something about w w E. These wrestlers are given stupid ideas. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.000 I'm not talking Sasha, and I'm talking everybody, okay, from 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.600 the bottom to the top. They're given stupid creative ideas 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.440 all the time. And uh and boy have I heard 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:42.200 some arguments from from very very I'm talking top folks 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.480 that have argued storylines, and Vince is like, Nope, this 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.400 is what we're doing. And so obviously, I think I 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.200 think everybody is is pretty well aware, especially when you 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.280 listen to interviews from people who have left w w E. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.080 The idea that everybody in w w E is satisfied 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.640 with their creative it's ridiculous. Of course they're not. They 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.960 they you know, there's people in w w E. There's 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.520 people in a w there's people in New Japan name 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.200 a promotion, and there's a bunch of people there that 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.720 are dissatisfied with their creative. Right, obviously, I mean this 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:21.680 is common sense. So you would think that if you 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.840 have a company full of folks that are presented with 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.520 bad creative all the time and get frustrated with the creative, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.840 well you would think that if Sasha and Naomi were 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.280 handed bad creative and they finally took a stand and 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.160 they just said no, I ain't doing this, I'm at here, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.800 and they walked out, well you would think that all 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:49.240 of the other wrestlers would be on their side, would 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.920 back them up, would say, finally somebody stood up for themselves, 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.720 because I see a lot of fans here. Oh, finally 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.440 someone stood up for themselves. Well, you would think that 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.560 the wrestlers who are dealing with this every day would 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.160 say the same thing, We are standing Thank god, someone's 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.640 finally standing up for themselves. Hopefully this leads to change 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:15.040 or whatever that did not happen. Dude, I literally I'm 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.080 aware of two people that are that are that have 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.600 publicly said anything positive about Sasha. The funny thing is, like, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.640 this is all on Sasha. I haven't heard anything about Naomi. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:32.120 No one's even mentioned Naoman. It's all Sasha, okay. William 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.040 Regal made a comment about how he put his job 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.560 on the line for her back in the day and 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.680 really wanted her to be signed, and uh, and Dax 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.800 Harwood made a comment about how you've got to take 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.120 your your career into your own hands. Those are the 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.520 only two people I have seen, okay internally. And I'm 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.680 sure maybe there's somebody that's, you know, I'm sure Jimmy 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.760 Usos sticking up for Nail and everything like that. But 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:59.160 I mean sure somebody internally is gonna do whatever. But 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:04.240 I have not heard from one person, not one that 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.879 is sticking up for Sasha and Naomi in this situation. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.520 And not only are they not sticking up for Sasha 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:15.800 and Naomi, but boy have I heard a lot of 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.080 terms thrown around, most of them some derivative of the 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:25.760 word mark mark effing Mark marked to a degree that 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.080 is unfathomed. I mean, all of it there is, there 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.200 has been. I have heard zero support for Sasha Banks 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.000 in this situation. So quite frankly, like if you want to, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.040 you can get mad at me if you want, but like, dude, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:44.840 I am not some voice of you know whatever. I mean, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.359 I've been a lot nicer on this show than anything 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.640 that I have heard from people in w W over 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.840 the last twenty four hours. So hey, if you want 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.960 to come after me, go for it, but you know, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.560 maybe don't bow to Vince McMahon the next time he 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.080 comes out or I'm sure many of your favorits on television. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.560 I mean, zero support, I'm talking zero. But like I said, 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.000 it's funny. I mean I haven't really heard anything anybody 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.920 saying anything about Naomi and she walked out too. It's 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.639 all about Sasha, and uh, you know, I've heard it 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.280 all Mark Diva. I mean, the list goes on and on. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.480 There is zero support for Sasha Banks walking out of 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.560 w W E over all of this. People are furious. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.800 They think it's ridiculous, they think that she's whatever. So 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.680 uh that's the story and where this goes. I mean, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:40.400 I don't know, but you know, all of the literally 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.719 every single bit of support that I've seen for Sasha 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.080 Banks coming out of this has either been for people 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.960 in another company that weren't there last night or and 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.879 that's it, or fans. Those are the only two. The 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.840 her actual coworkers, the people that work with her in 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.919 that company, have zero sympathy for what happened here. So 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.439 I think that would probably tell you something. And uh, again, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.879 we largely have the official w w E side of 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.919 the story, but I also heard from you know, a 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.280 lot of people obviously off the record in w w 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:19.120 E and not not sympathetic to this at all. And 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.760 trust me, these are people that have been presented with 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.399 really stupid ideas and they've had to do them, and 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.760 they are not sympathetic on this one. So I think 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.439 that I think that kind of tells you that, you know, 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:37.280 she she didn't like some creative, but the other wrestlers 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.040 probably looked at that creative and thought, dude, what are 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.879 you complaining about? Like both of you are gonna be 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.080 headlining a pay per view in singles championship matches and uh, 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.760 and you walked out over that, like what, this is 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.280 your job? I mean, you're not really the tag team champions. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.760 It's fake. You were chosen to walk around with these 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.719 two belts and do matches and uh now they've come 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.040 up with another idea to you to position you in 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.680 a top position. They would have been in a top 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.920 position on television for weeks setting up angles. Sasha would 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.560 have laid out Rhonda Rousey. I mean all of that. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.520 They do, all of that stuff leading to matches, and 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.199 that was creative that they decided we're walking out of 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.400 this company over that. So very very like non existent 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:31.240 sympathy for for Sasha Banks And what do you need 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.600 bad take? I'm not even giving you a take. I'm 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.440 telling you exactly what's going on here. It's not even 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.560 my take. Why are you even mad at me? I'm 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.160 telling you exactly what I've heard from multiple people within 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:47.399 the company. As usual, it's all my fault. Stand up 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.439 for w W E. Well, stand up for Sasha Banks 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.760 if you'd like to. I'm telling you what I've heard 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.520 from her co workers. So it can get mad at 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:00.240 me if you want, you can kill the messenger. I 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.000 don't care. I mean, that's that's how this normally works 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:07.760 on the internet. Right, We'll talk about some other news 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.119 and we'll talk about the rest of RAW, because I 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.000 think everyone's asking about Rick Flair and Ricky Steamboat. So, yes, 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.440 rick Flair's having his last match July thirty one. Jim 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:21.880 Crockett Promotions presents Rick Flair's last match taking place on Sunday, 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:26.760 July thirty one Nashville Fairgrounds. And uh, Dave believed it 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.560 would be FTR and Rick Flair versus the Rock and 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:37.359 Roll Express and a mystery partner, and yes, the mystery partner. Well, 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.280 I can't say this is going to be the mystery partner. 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.399 I'll put it this way. Ricky Steamboat has been asked 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.480 if he wants to be the mystery partner. Okay, Ricky 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.600 Steamboat did an angle in w w E about a 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:53.320 decade ago, and uh, and he was absolutely destroyed by Uh. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.239 I think it was the Core what was the name 0:21:55.280 --> 0:22:00.479 of the group that destroyed him. But anyway, Uh, he 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:05.439 was seriously injured and uh his I think blood on 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.000 the brand. I mean it was bad, like he could 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.240 have died and so he was never allowed in the 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.879 ring again. From from w w E. So you know, 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.679 Rick Flair has got a pacemaker and everything like that, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.920 But I mean, I'm no doctor, but to me, I 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.200 would be more concerned about Ricky Steamboat in the ring 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.959 than Rick Flair. But Ricky Steamboat has been asked and uh, 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:31.320 Ricky Steamboat has been in the ring for sure within 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.360 the last five years. He's done some uh he's done 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:35.960 some indie dates and that sort of thing. And there 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.080 was even one show which I think was up in 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.680 Canada where he made an appearance and then as part 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.160 of the show, he hit the ring and did a 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:49.720 full Ricky Steamboat baby face comeback and he looked great. Apparently, 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:54.200 he looked awesome and he was totally fine afterwards, and so, uh, 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.560 the impression had been given is that he is kinda 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.479 he's getting in the ring and it's kind of like 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.640 the steam Bosson's serenaway. If he feels that he can 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.600 do this match, he's gonna do it, and if he 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.879 feels he can't do this match, he's not going to 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:12.080 do it. But from people who have who have seen him, 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.320 uh and seen a lot of the footage of Rick Flair, 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.080 I mean, I know a lot of people are concerned 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.639 about the health of both guys, but essentially the feeling 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:24.359 is if there's four other young guys in there, and 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.000 Flair's in there to do a few spots, and Ricky 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:28.919 Steamboats in there to do a bunch of chops and 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.080 make a comeback. Uh, this can largely go off without 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.800 a hitch. So that's the update on Flair's final match 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.639 and Ricky Steamboat and we'll do more news after the 0:23:38.680 --> 0:24:01.480 break Wrestling Observer Live. Sure, I don't know how some 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:06.760 of you get through the day. Flabbergasted that woun vile 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.320 the trademark for what appears to be a new tag 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:15.280 team infection name Bloody Brutes. We don't do blood. We're 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:20.280 gonna have a team called Bloody Brutes. So I guess 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.040 we'll find out who gets that one. Yeah, I am flabbergasted. 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:30.400 I mean I should have known, but some there's no 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:35.960 there's no logic. There's what's the old saying, there's no 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.120 logic in the eyes of love. I think I made 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:40.800