1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: hit any shot. 4 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I kind of want. We're gonna be able to tell 5 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: some fun stories about what goes on here to help 6 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon. 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: That is Marty Jerts and Marty, you got an exciting 9 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: guest today. 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin is awesome to have you, have you on 11 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: the pod, get to know you a little bit, and 12 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: all of our listeners kind of want to hear hear 13 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: your story here what you're up to. 14 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 3: All right, Well, thanks for having me on. 15 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's start with Cognizant because obviously getting a 16 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: win this season on the PJ tourre I was reading 17 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: a little bit about you know what you said after 18 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: and you said, I've been dreaming about this moment my 19 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: whole life. Kind of a weird finish, if you will, 20 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: just the way it ended up, obviously being on a 21 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Monday finish. But can you kind of walk us through 22 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the week, walk us through that final round. 23 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously it was from the start, you know, 24 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: the game wasn't a good spot. And that's always a 25 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: promising sign, but you never know until you te it up. 26 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: And you know, I played well the first day and 27 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: just you know, continue throughout the whole time. But then 28 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: to have the rain delays and the you know, I 29 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: played seven hole Sunday evening than the raindelais happened, and 30 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: I was I was happy I finished out on the 31 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: seventh hole, even though it was a you know, long 32 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: putt in the dark. But to come back and have 33 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: a t ball, you know, make it feel as real 34 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: and normal as I could. And I had you know, 35 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: eleven holes the next morning, and uh, you know, and 36 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: it could have helped me. You know, the fact that 37 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: with the raindelais so it just it was really fun week. 38 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: And I'll take a Monday finish every time if it 39 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: ends up that way. 40 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: When you wake up on Monday, because you've kind of 41 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: gone through it's Saturday night, right Saturday night, and the 42 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Sunday you're thinking about it, You're trying to get your rest, 43 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: trying to go to sleep. Is it almost easier Sunday 44 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: into Monday, considering you'd already kind of gone through those emotions, 45 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: or is it tougher because you're like, I got to 46 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: go through this whole thing. I just went through again. 47 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: I think it was a little tougher just because I 48 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: had to do it was the same thing. It wasn't like, 49 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't like it was just another tournament. 50 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: It was the exact same experience, you know, but this 51 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: time I actually had the lead versus where the night 52 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: before I was tied for the lead, so I had 53 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: kind of separated myself. So it was, you know, I 54 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: guess a little bit more comforting in that way. 55 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: That golf course, I mean we put together for on 56 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: the fitting side is some like strokes gained driving scores, 57 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: and we used Kapalu as the easiest driving course on 58 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: tour and that and PJ National is the hardest driving 59 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: course on tour. How did you know in your ball 60 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: striking stats are quite impressive tea to green. What was 61 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: your confidence level going into that course and did things 62 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: really match up with you, you know, the way you 63 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: drive the golf ball off the tea that week. 64 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure that you know, the golf course suits 65 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: my really well. I mean I feel like, for the 66 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: most part, it's a drawing golf course off the tea, 67 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: but I actually made an equipment change on Tuesday evening 68 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: through in a different shaft in my driver, and it 69 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: was ended up being the right one. 70 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: What initiated that change? What were you looking for? 71 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was funny. I was actually driving it fine, 72 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: is the funny part too. And I was finished up 73 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: my practice around Tuesday, and uh, Sam Stevens, another staffer, 74 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: was on the tent tee and I walked over there 75 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: and I just grabbed his driver. I was like, man, 76 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: this feel pretty good. Didn't hit a ball with it 77 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: or anything. I was just like, it looks good. It 78 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: feels good. And I was like, hey, can can you 79 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: make me Sam's driver? And He's like, yeah, you're gonna 80 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: want a little bit more a loft, but yeah, I'll 81 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: make it for you. And then I didn't hit it 82 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: until the Wednesday pro am and hit it great, played 83 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: the tournament and drove it probably the best I've ever 84 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: drove it. So it was funny. Still in my bag now. 85 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Very amazing, Marty. I'm always I'm always impressed, shot surprised 86 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: that tour players will tinker as much as they tinker, 87 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: but then we'll be confident enough to throw some in 88 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the bag and be successful with it, go out there 89 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: and win it. It's just the you know, I think 90 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: regular golfers, amateur players, high handicapped players, they're more fearful 91 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: of changing stuff in their bag. And I think when 92 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you hear from the tour players, it's like, no, man, 93 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I like, if you're missing it left, you're missing right. Like, 94 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: lean on the equipment if you can for sure. 95 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of time, it's funny you'll be 96 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: hitting drivers on the driving engine, you know, testing stuff, 97 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: and you know you have a left miss with the 98 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: shaft and then all of a suddenly thrown a different 99 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: shaft and that miss goes away. It really is incredible 100 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: what equipment can do. 101 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty Yeah, the shaft side of thing 102 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: is really amazing because it all you need is just 103 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: this tiny little tweak to the face to path right, 104 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: Like you can just change that face to path delivery 105 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: like two tenths of a degree and that's all it's 106 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: gonna take. So you know, was it was it a 107 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: shaft field transition thing? 108 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: No? I mean it and what I've heard it's a 109 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: similar shaft the one I played before. Yeah, it had 110 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 3: a similar feel, similar you know, kickpoint and all that stuff. 111 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just it was different and I 112 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: needed that. And uh, but I think on the tinkering side, 113 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: we were joking, like a lot of times with Dylan, 114 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: I'll grab a different putter just to mess around with 115 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: and end up throwing in my normal putter just because 116 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: I need a different look for three days, you know, 117 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: or whatever. 118 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: Just just to remind the other putter. Way, there is 119 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: other ones out there they should be fearful of in golf. 120 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean outside of really the Caddy, there's not really 121 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: teams you stick with throughout your career. You think about 122 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: somebody like Steph Curry, you know, playing with the Warriors 123 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: throughout their career. You're somebody that's been with ping since 124 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: you were very very young. How did that relationship start? 125 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was playing in the It was a 126 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: junior All starvant in Norman, Oklahoma, and Jeff Brown came 127 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: out and watched me. We had no I did who 128 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: he was, and he watched all all my rounds and 129 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: by the end of it might I was like, hey, 130 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: like I'm Steve, Like who the hell are you are 131 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: you watching my son? And he was like, well, you know, 132 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: introduced himself, and then after that I started working with 133 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: h through that Ping junior program and I've been what 134 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: is that now, thirteen years with Pinning and I'm twenty 135 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: five years old. That's pretty cool. 136 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: What were some of like the irons and woods you 137 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: played at the very beginning? 138 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: So the first driver I got was the answer, yeah, driver? 139 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: And three would. 140 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: Did you do you remember? Wasn't that the one that 141 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: they you kind of you could color in really custom? 142 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: It would you do to your? 143 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Mine? Was all orange? 144 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Okay? 145 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: Even the grooves of orange? 146 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 147 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? And then uh, I think it was S fifty 148 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: six is maybe irons or maybe fifty five, I can't 149 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: remember what that and then Glide two point zeros and 150 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: then the redwood putter I still using. 151 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: That the D sixty six still in the bag, Yeah, exactly, yep. 152 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: And then uh, likewise, I think your your your dad, 153 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: he's still he's been your golf code. Is he a 154 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: golf pro or? And what what is that relationship like 155 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: from a mechanics and coaching standpoint? 156 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So my dad played professionally for a little bit. 157 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: He played college golf, and he's only my swing coach. 158 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: That's his thing. He doesn't want to catch anybody else's 159 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: touch me. So he uh, it's more kind of I 160 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: bounce ideas off of him. And that's how we like 161 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: to do it, more so than you know, dissecting the 162 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: golf swing. He'd make sure the alignment's good and the 163 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: ball position's good, and then you know, if I want 164 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: to swing key or a swing feel, I'm like, hey, 165 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: what do you think about this feeling? And he's like, 166 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: I hate it or I like it, you know, So 167 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: that's kind of how we do it. 168 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: I love that. I always talk about steps with players. 169 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of like take these steps in 170 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: junior golf into collegiate golf, and something happens. You win 171 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: a golf tournament, you play well against somebody that maybe 172 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: you're intimidated by, and your confidence grows. The way you 173 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: played at the US Open last year, I mean, you 174 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: had a great nine hole stretch, you know, tied the 175 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: low score. I think. Ever at the US Open you 176 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: shot twenty nine, right, Is that what you did at 177 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: l ACC What did that do for you the rest 178 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: of the season into this year? Yeah? 179 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: I mean I think that week, especially just because I 180 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: didn't feel like I had a great game that week 181 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: and I was able to compete and still finish top ten. 182 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: You know, I was struggling with the golf game most 183 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: of last season, especially the ball striking inside of it, 184 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: and you know, I was able to find little keys 185 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: here and there, and you know, and I was still 186 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: able to compete. So that was confident, you know, confidence 187 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: booster for me just knowing that, you know, without my 188 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: best stuff last year, I was still able to, you know, 189 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: almost win a golf tournament and then finish top ten 190 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: in a major and then you know, stuff like that, 191 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: even when I write out of my best stuff was encouraging. 192 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: You hear from players a lot. I mean we as 193 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: golf fans. Typically if you're not watching PJ Tour live 194 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: or you see and plus coverage, you're watching the players 195 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: that are playing the best each and every week, and 196 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: they're typically dialed. I mean, they're not missing a lot 197 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: of fairways, not missing a lot of iron shots. Pro 198 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: golfers miss fairways, they missed iron shots, they hit bad 199 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: golf shots. There is something to seeing your maybe your 200 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: B game be competitive against the best of the world. 201 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: And when you say, oh, my B game is successful, here, 202 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: imagine what happens when I have my a game. 203 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: Right exactly, And that's good point you We'll miss a lot. 204 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it happens all the time. And I think 205 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of funny. We were talking about like last 206 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: week in the signature events where we have you know, 207 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: I played terrible after the first two rounds, It's like, well, shoot, 208 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: I still got to go play two more, right, Right, 209 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's nice to go home and go figure some 210 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: things out. But yeah, obviously it's great having those you know, 211 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: no cut events and stuff, but it's, uh, it's funny sometimes. 212 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: So if you're at an event like that in the 213 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: signature events without cuts, right when you aren't playing well 214 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and let's say you're down towards the bottom of the 215 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: leader board, what do you do in terms of a 216 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday to either work on your game or 217 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: try to find something headed into another big week? All right? 218 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the mentality changes, for sure. It's not so much 219 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: obviously you want to play well and finished well in 220 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: that event, but you're more looking into the future, especially 221 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 3: like last week coming into a major, I was just 222 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: trying to find something, you know, trying to find the 223 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: right swing key, trying to find the right feels and did. 224 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: You find anything I did, Yeah, definitely what you find. 225 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: Just figure out how to get the golf pull straight. 226 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: That was the key, and I was really strong. I 227 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: had tweaked my wrist early in last week, so I 228 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: didn't get to practice before the event, and the chipping 229 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: really kind of struggled because of that. That's the first 230 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: thing to go. And you know, I was just trying 231 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: to get the feeling back in that area and it 232 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: seems to be back. 233 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: Growing up in Oklahoma. What were some of your favorite memories, 234 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of, you know, speaking to majors 235 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: and the major the Major's head to Southern Hills. They've 236 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: headed to Southern Hills a few times in your childhood. 237 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: Do you have any any memories from from when the 238 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: PGA was there at Southern Hills. 239 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, some Me and my dad actually went out to 240 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: that and to I remember vividly. I was I was young. 241 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: I was like seven years old and Tiger Woods was 242 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: walking up the walkway off of Eighteenth Green and I 243 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: can't remember if you high five me. I definitely told 244 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: people he high five, you know, but it was just 245 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: a cool experience and like I remember him being like 246 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: way bigger than I. Imagined and you know, all that stuff, 247 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: and it was just a cool experience. And then they 248 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: had it back in twenty was it twenty was it 249 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: last year? 250 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: A couple of years, two years ago, Yeah, two. 251 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Years I wasn't I was on the corn Ferry Tour 252 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: and I wasn't able to play. But we had the 253 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: US or the Senior PGA at oak Tree National, where 254 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: I play now. I think that was in twenty fourteen, 255 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: and went out there and watched some of the legends. 256 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: It was, you know, a lot of good golf in Oklahoma, Austin. 257 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: What is it like thinking back to being a kid 258 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: seeing Tiger was you know him may or may not 259 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: high five in years? Fist pumping your own I'm not sure. 260 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: I still can't remember. 261 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Listen, we all go fishing. That fish grows every time 262 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I tell that story. What is it like playing a 263 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: major championship now that Tiger's in the field. 264 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: That was cool this morning I was hitting I was 265 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: hitting range balls and he was two spots down, and 266 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: it's just cool. I mean peaking. Oh yeah, no, yeah. 267 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: I remember in twenty nineteen and I was a sophomore 268 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: in college and I qualified for the US Open at 269 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: Pebble Beach and I was on the putting green, the 270 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: one by the first t it's you know, by itself. 271 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: Nothing else is around. And I walk out there and 272 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: the putting green is just packed that you can't see 273 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: it when I'm walking up, and Tiger is the only 274 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: guy on the green. So it's just me and Tiger 275 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: on the funning green and I I had my coach 276 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: in college guttying for me. I was like, is it 277 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: bad if I take a picture right now? And he's like, yeah, 278 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: I'll take plenty of pictures. You just go put so 279 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: if you're well. 280 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: You know, he has the yardage book out and he 281 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: hit one hand and maybe you had the phone out. 282 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Of here exactly. Yeah, I mean so he definitely took 283 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 3: a bunch of pictures, So that was cool. 284 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Was he who you looked up to? I mean there's 285 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: so many great players that went through Oklahoma State of 286 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: imagine you're looking up some of those players. Just the 287 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: guy you looked up to? 288 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean whenever I was a kid, I 289 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: remember and uh that US opening at Tory Pines when 290 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: he had that put on eighteen, I had my head 291 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: tucked in the couch cushion, like I couldn't watch the pot. 292 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: You know, he was he was the guy. He was 293 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: the guy. 294 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin, Uh, let's talk a little bit about your iron. 295 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: So you played Blueprint teas, right, and then Blueprint ass 296 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: in the three iron right on tour, we have we 297 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: have players in i two thirties, we have players playing 298 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: mostly Blueprint asses and then a lot of mixed sets. 299 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, you you play the Blueprint t down to 300 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: the three iron right, the Blueprint te or Blueprint ass 301 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: three iron? Tell us what attracts you to that Blueprint 302 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: t iron with characteristics and and yeah, why you like it? 303 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember, and when I was in college, the 304 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: Blueprint came out and it was the coolest thing ever, 305 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: you know, and it was I was just drawn to 306 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: the forge blade look, you know, and I tinkered with 307 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: some stuff last season before the tea's came out, and 308 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: you know, once those came out, they're so clean looking 309 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: on the back. And that's part of the game too, 310 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: is you have to like what you look. So the 311 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: look is a huge thing to do with it. And 312 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: they just kind of matched my game well, you know, 313 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: I think contact wise, I catched the ball pretty clean, 314 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: most of the time, and obviously I could probably use 315 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: a little forgiveness every once in a while and go 316 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: for the more game improvement. But I love them and 317 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: they're they're clean looking, and they do what I wanted 318 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: to do most of the time. 319 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: Growing up in Oklahoma, obviously going to college in Oklahoma, 320 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: there's so many and you still live in Oklahoma. There's 321 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: so many great players that live out there and play 322 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and practice. Who in that world did you look up to? 323 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: Who in that world did you kind of pick their brain? 324 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: And then when you started to have success, right, kind 325 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: of like wrought off the jump and call it, who 326 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: did you talk to about navigating that world, not just collegiately, 327 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: but what you're going to do post Oklahoma State. 328 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty cool. The area I grew 329 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: up in Oak Tree was a kind of a There 330 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: was a bunch of us golfer, yeah, and it was 331 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: like a pro golf it was. And I remember there 332 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: was like three three guys older than me. There were 333 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: seniors when I was a freshman, so whatever, it's difference 334 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: that is three years. And whenever I was like ten 335 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: years old, I wanted to be like them, you know. 336 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: It was like Nick Haye and Hayden Wood like I 337 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: wanted to be like them, and then Kevin Tway and 338 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Robert Strubb were five years older than them, they wanted 339 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: to be like them. And then there's a group of age, 340 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: you know, a little bit below me that probably wants 341 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: to be like me. And it's I think that's what 342 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: makes that area so good at golf. It's just that 343 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: that area. And obviously Ricky Faller when I was in 344 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: school was kind of he was always close. He came 345 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: back all the time and wanted to help out the 346 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: team as much as he could. 347 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: So it feels like there's like a fraternity there. I mean, 348 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: for sure, such a great system. It's such a great 349 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: you know college, it's such a great university. It's produced 350 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: so many great players, and it feels like you guys 351 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: aren't just close when you're there. It feels like when 352 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: you get out on tour, you stay relatively close, you 353 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: play practice rounds together. You talked to them and we 354 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: were talking before we got going. Scotford planks out there 355 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: kind of helping you during the Masters, your first Masters 356 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: there as well. I mean, that has to feel so 357 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: cool because not every college, not every university has which 358 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: you guys have. 359 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible to think about how many guys we 360 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: have out on you know, PJ Tour and other tours. 361 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: It's it's incredible. And when I first came out here, 362 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: especially on the sponsor exemptions, you do, you know, you 363 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: don't really have any friends out here, and you know, 364 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: guys like Ricky, guys like Victor, you know, they were 365 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: really nice to people. I played practice rounds with them, 366 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: and then now I got teammates of mine with Victor obviously, 367 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: but then Sam Stevens as well, another guy, and you know, 368 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: it's just fun, you know, have someone that you have 369 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: that shared experience with and guys that shared the similar 370 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: experience a couple of. 371 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Years before you we ever move away from Oklahoma. 372 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: Nope, No, I mean I plan on doing stuff in 373 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: Arizona in the future, but it will never be full time. 374 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: I love Oklahoma. 375 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: Heah, yeah, all right, We'll see you in Arizona. 376 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, winter time. 377 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: In the winter time, winter the driver, if you're exactly Yeah, 378 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: but I will scrape up a lot more wedges in 379 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: the in the desert. 380 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: Austin, tell us a little bit about how you like 381 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: approach a week, Like what is your what does your Monday, Tuesday, 382 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday look like? How you kind of ramp, you know, 383 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: get yourself ready for tournament week. I think it's there's 384 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: kind of two different tournament preps. There's the you know, 385 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: a week off coming into a tournament, and then you 386 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: fly in Sunday night and then you have a full 387 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: week versus where you're coming from a different event, and 388 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: that Monday is kind of more of a rest and 389 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: recovery kind of day. 390 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: Typically, I like to just play nine hol days. When 391 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: I first got out here, I played a little bit more. 392 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: I played eighteen on Tuesday, but I wasn't in the 393 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: programs on Wednesday. So it's you know, now that I'm 394 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: in the prorams on Wednesday, it makes it really easy. 395 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: I just played nine on Tuesday, nine on Wednesday, and 396 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: I go out. Typically I'm spending a little bit of 397 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: time on the range, just trying to make sure I 398 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: find the right swing keys, right feels for the week, 399 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I'd just like to keep it simp. 400 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: I mean, just make sure my the main areas that 401 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm you know, my alignment, my ball position, like I 402 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: was saying earlier, and then the swing path is somewhere 403 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: within a realm that I can play with. I don't 404 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: try to make it too perfect, you know, just kind 405 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: of keep it easy. 406 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: Are you a technology guy or are you Are you 407 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: a track man foresight? Are you looking at those numbers? 408 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, use a track man, but I really only look 409 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: at four numbers. The ones I really care about our 410 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: carry distances, and then the swing path, attack angle, and 411 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: then I like to see how fast I'm swinging it. 412 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, that's I gotta know how fast I'm swinging. 413 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: That's really those are the That's really all I really 414 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: care about. 415 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: Are you a stats guy, you're looking at strokes gains stuff, 416 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: putting stats? You guys get into that or do you 417 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: feel like you more just have a feel in a 418 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: sense where things are at in your game. 419 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: I definitely like look at it just to get an 420 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: idea of what the rest of the field is doing 421 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: or you know, because sometimes you'll trick yourself, like you 422 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: feel like you're hitting your rons good, and then you 423 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: look at the stats and you're losing strokes on the field, 424 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: and you can I don't wonder how, but then you 425 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: kind of really dissect it and you see see where 426 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: you lost, you know, when you mess agreeing with a 427 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: wedge that kills you and stuff like that. Yeah, but 428 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 3: for the most part is if I feel like I'm 429 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: swinging it well, I don't too much worry about the 430 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: you know, the statistics on the teea green and short 431 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: games where it gets a little finicky, I think sometimes 432 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: because not all six footers are the same. You know, 433 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: you have a six footer that's breaking you know, three feet, 434 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: and then it's statistically the same as a dead straight 435 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: six footer, but and it's really not. 436 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Austin, when did you realize that this was going to 437 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: be your thing? Because we've mentioned your success, I mean, 438 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: collegiately you were great. Obviously you've now won on the 439 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. When did you realize I might have a 440 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: future in this game? 441 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: I think at a young age I was. I played 442 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: everything growing up sports wise, and I was always. 443 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: The best at outside of golf. 444 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: Football is probably what I was second best at, but 445 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 3: I was just teeny my freshman year physical of high school, 446 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: I was four eleven nine to nine pounds. 447 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Whoa, come on, yeah, yeah, I don't fall here. 448 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: So that's whenever I gave up football after middle school. 449 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: But you know, I think I always felt like I 450 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: was good at golf, and you know, I had my 451 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: dad telling me I was good enough, you know all 452 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: this stuff, and I was winning all the junior events locally, 453 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: and then you get to high school and kind of 454 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: do the same thing. And I don't know if you 455 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: ever really get the moment of like, I'm good enough 456 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: to play on the PJ Tour until you actually went 457 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: on the PJ Tour. Then you're like, okay, you know 458 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: what I am. I am good enough. But you know, 459 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: I always felt like I had a chance. And then 460 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: to go play at the best program in golf and 461 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: all that stuff, it just it kind of helped build 462 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: my confidence into thinking I could play out here. 463 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Did you play in the Texas Oklahoma back in the day, 464 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, more better than the Air Force Base event. 465 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: But the golfers had always killed me. It blew like 466 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: thirty people. That'd be the one that always give me kills? 467 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: Is that where you guys put it's a good golf 468 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: a little. 469 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Older than you. But yeah it was great. It's a 470 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: great really, but it woul always blow fifty. And I 471 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: grew up in East Texas where there was no win 472 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: and I was like I was like, this is not 473 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: my game. 474 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what adjustments have you made going from Corn 475 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: Ferry Tour to PG Tour, you know, either courses, competition 476 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: routine and how are you in you know what other 477 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: what what other changes do you think you're gonna have 478 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: to make in the future to continue with your successor Yeah. 479 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: I think something that I didn't realize when I was 480 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: playing the corn Fory Tour I was still you know, 481 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: fresh out of college, was how much it wears down 482 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: on your body playing that much golf. I mean, growing up, 483 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: even in a college schedule, you're not playing that much 484 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: competitive golf. You'll play once every three weeks, once every 485 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: two weeks, and then you're on the corn Fairy Tours. 486 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: You play every week and you have to because they're 487 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: trying to get on PJA Tour, and it really kind 488 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: of wears down your body. And I think that was 489 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: the biggest suggestment I made on the PJ Tour was 490 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: put in a focus on recovery and rest and you know, 491 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: the maintenance in the in the weight room and stuff 492 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: like that, just because I mean, it wears you down. 493 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, what does that look like for you? Fitness routine 494 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: A couple a couple of days in the weight room 495 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: type of thing. 496 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to get I just really started building 497 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: a team around me to where I have guys traveling 498 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: with me now and you know, we try to get 499 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: at least three or four days in the gym during 500 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: the week, which it's hard sometimes with early two times 501 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: and late tea times, just trying to find the right time. 502 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 3: But that's kind of what I needed someone for because 503 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: if it's on me, I won't do it. That's something 504 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: that I figured out when it comes to the gym 505 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: on the road, is it's easy for me to say, oh, 506 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: I'll do it tomorrow, you know kind of thing. But 507 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: to have someone in there telling me, no, we need 508 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: to get the done, it's really helped a lot. 509 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: Are you like a chef at the house guy, or 510 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: you like an uber eatsre do we go? What are 511 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: we going with? 512 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: Like? 513 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Week to week? 514 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: The bad thing is taco Bell? Yeah, I have, yeah, 515 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: and typically I have a courtesy car with me that 516 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: I could easily drive to the taco Bell. But it's 517 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: so easy to oppress. Know what's what's the taco bell order? 518 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: What do we get? 519 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: It changes? I'm everything on the menu talk Okay, it's 520 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: one of my things. 521 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: So you're a democratic dial in Mexican pizza, I'm into it. 522 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about two thirty in the morning, 523 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: if it's been a heavy night out, I'll go like 524 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: thirty five dollars deep, which is a really good that's 525 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: hard to do. You almost have to order everything on 526 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: the you do you do. I don't consume it all, 527 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: but I'll definitely want to have a little bit of 528 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: a taste. That's very interesting. I'll have the taco bell thing. Yeah, 529 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: what about the tattoo the World? You have a tattoo 530 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of the world. 531 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: It's the worst tattoo on the planet. 532 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: Seriously, you don't like it. 533 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: I've actually been to two sessions now with the removal. 534 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: All right, so when did you get it? 535 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: My I was eighteen. 536 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: That was a was the reason. 537 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: It's a it's a funny story actually, So this is 538 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: why I'm going to Arizona in the wintertime, because there 539 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: was nothing to do in the middle in the wintertime. 540 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: So it was a it was a snowing day in 541 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: December and me and my buddy had just gotten done 542 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: working out, and uh we were at Qutoba and he 543 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 3: was like, would you ever get a tattoo? It was like, 544 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: I probably would, And so we had nothing to do. 545 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: So we drove to this tattoo are they called parlors? Yeah, 546 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: and uh so we drove there and we were just 547 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: like kind of looking through the booklets and what they had, 548 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: and they were like, we have an opening for two 549 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: and the like in an hour and an hour and 550 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: a half if you guys wanna you guys want to 551 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: get them today? We're like, sure, why not? And I mean, 552 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: it's this is it's twelve o'clock in the it's noon 553 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: on a Tuesday afternoon. There was no drinking involved. It 554 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: was completely sober decisions. 555 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: It's sober and board. 556 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: So sober and board and ended up with the worst 557 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: tattoo ever. 558 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: So what did your buddy get? 559 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: I can't remember. It was on his It was on 560 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: his arm. It was a verse of some sort, but 561 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: it was I can't remember what. 562 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: He's not taking that one. He likes it years off. 563 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it hurts and you heard it's worse than 564 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 3: the tattoo significantly. 565 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: How many sessions does it take to get it out 566 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: of there? 567 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: They said probably ten, okay, but it's who knows how 568 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: much it was just exactly. 569 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Take a day when you're eighteen. When you're eighteen, on 570 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: buying a car, on marrying someone, and on getting it. 571 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: That's very fad think about before you do it. 572 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: Also, what what's what do you think what would you 573 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: consider the strength of your golf game. Strongest part of 574 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: your golf game. 575 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: I'll say my driving. You know, I think I drive 576 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: the golf ball consistently well, But I think that's the 577 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: areas where if I'm struggling, that's when you'll see the 578 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: score struggling because you know, that's the first thing that 579 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: I really make sure is you know, in a good spot, 580 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: because that's where I think, you know, it's my strength. 581 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: That's where I score from. And I think statistically I 582 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: am one of the better drivers out here. I'm not, 583 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm not a huge statistical guy, but 584 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: I think the stats says so. 585 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: One of the things we've knows about your driving is 586 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: that you don't curve it a lot, right, You play 587 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: a little draw. 588 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: I kind of if I'm just setting up square and 589 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: I just swing, it's gonna draw a little bit. I 590 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: like to work it both ways most of the time. 591 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: A little bit both ways with the driver. But in general, 592 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: I think one of the things we've seen with your 593 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: with your data is that you don't you don't have 594 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: a big spin accident. It's like you don't curve it 595 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: a ton. That helps unlock a little bit extra disc answer. 596 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: I think that's one of those things that makes players 597 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: sneaky long. Yeah, you know, is that you don't curve 598 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: it a lot straight. 599 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah? Yeah, typically I keep I like to keep 600 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: the ball within the margins of the fairway and not 601 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: start it outside of the fairway. Yeah. 602 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: And then what about your iron plate? Do you curb 603 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: your irons a lot? Two different pins? And growing up 604 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: at Oklahoma's windy you know, is that what's your strategy 605 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: on shot shaping? 606 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of. I play with flights a lot, 607 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: and I'm bringing them down, bringing them up, curve them. 608 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: I think that was something I struggled with when I 609 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: go on tour. Was you see a lot of guys 610 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 3: just hit one ball flight? Yes, And it was like 611 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: I was thinking, do I need to change my approach 612 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: on how I play golf? Interesting just because that's what 613 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: everybody else was doing, And you know, I tinkered with 614 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: that and then realized I hit the irons better if 615 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: I'm playing playing with ball flights, because it gives me 616 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: something to focus on. I think that's something that helps 617 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: me as a you know, I pick a number far 618 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to hit it, the ball flight, I want 619 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: which way I want it working, and it kind of 620 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: helps me zero in on the flag. 621 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: So I think for the listener, Chane, that's another good 622 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: example Austin talking about shot shaping the blueprint, T is 623 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 2: like that's like your sports car, Like you can just 624 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: dial it in in terms of your face to path 625 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: things of that nature. Do you curve it based on 626 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: pin location, wins, distances or. 627 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: All the above? 628 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: All the above, I think, And a lot of times 629 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: it probably doesn't make sense the way I curved it, 630 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's the back left pin and 631 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: the winds off the right, and I'm gonna cut it 632 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: into it, you know, so it doesn't matter. 633 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: It just was kind of like the walk up and 634 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: see the shot, yeah exactly. Yeah. 635 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: And a lot of times when I walk a fairway 636 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: or like when I get up to the te you know, 637 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: I just kind of vision visualize the whole work in 638 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: a certain way. That's just kind of how I've played it, yeah, 639 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: and and trust it exactly. 640 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you had to change your goals this year? 641 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: After the win? Do you write down goals or you 642 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: a goal guy? 643 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: My cad is a goal guy, so it always makes 644 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: me throwing a couple of goals at the beginning of 645 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: the season and. 646 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Ordered Taco Bell went on the PHA Tour. What else? 647 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: But what else? What else? You're looking at for the 648 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: rest of the year. 649 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 3: And now I feel like, you know, I think the 650 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: main goal would be making making ees, Like I think 651 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: that's kind of you know, I'm in a good spot 652 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: for that, and that's kind of if you can do that, 653 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: that means you had a great year, you know, And 654 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: that's really where I'm the main goal. But then also 655 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: somehow making the President's Cup. I think that'd be super cool. 656 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be fun. And I mean, I'm sure people 657 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: love to hit his t shots. You hit that straight round. 658 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: I'll go in this one. Austin. We appreciate the time, man, 659 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: great chatting with you. Good luck the rest of the season. 660 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully we see on the President's Cup team. 661 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, hopefully so. 662 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: This is the Proving Grounds Podcast.