1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in now number two Thursday edition, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We know that a lot 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: of you out there all over the country. Hey, maybe 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: you're starting your July fourth celebration a little bit early 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday. A lot of people not going to 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: be working. Maybe you are gearing up for a trip. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: If that is you, why not go ahead and do 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: a couple of things. 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Okay, Buck, We're continuing to talk by the 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: way about the decision from the Supreme Court just about 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: three hours ago to end the affirmative action, the use 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: of race as part of college and university admissions. Having 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: really interesting conversations there eight hundred and two A two 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: two eight A two. We've also discussed legacy admissions, the 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: meritocracy in general. How do the schools actually do at 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: educating people? In other words, how much of your success 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: in life is attributable to where you went? Would you 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: agree with that buck that that you don't have kids yet? 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: But I think the number one sells pitch of a 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: university is and tell me if you agree or disagree 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: with this idea. The university sells the idea that if 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: you come here, you will be more efficient and more 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: successful in life than you would be if you didn't. 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: And the more elite the university is, the more they 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: sell the idea that your future life will be more 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: successful as a function of the four years that you 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: would have spent in an undergrad institution there. That's basically 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the essence of why you would be willing to pay 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: seventy five or eighty thousand dollars a year to go 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: to these schools. 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: And I think a vast majority of cases of the 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: of these different schools. 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: It's just not true. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: If you're a hard working industry as smart person, you'll 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: do well wherever it is that you go. 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: They used to be real door openers. 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, there's like on campus recruiting and if you 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: went to the right school, I mean I could tell you. 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you had a different experience. Nobody 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: ever cared where I went to school. The alumni network 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: never lifted a finger for me. I remember, I was 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: encouraged by my we had kind of a you know, 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: career guidance counselor, and encouraged to write letters to alumni 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: in different industries I was interested in, like actual old school. 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: Read a letter like hey, I didn't even get a response. 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: I think I wrote ten letters like no one even responded, 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: which was good. I realized, like, okay, so that was 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: all a scam. There's no alumni network that's going to 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: help me or whatever. 63 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: But it's all right. 64 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to go work with the CIA anyway, so 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: it didn't really make much difference to me. But at 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: the time I saw this a lot, and I think 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: that you know, Clay, the value of these degrees is 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: going down because ultimately this is an arms race. Ultimately, 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: this is inherently competitive, which gets lost in this conversation. 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: You know, Harvard talks about oh, we need like holistic 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: and the benefits of diversity. People go to Harvard because 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the people who apply to Harvard 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: don't get in. Yeah, so they're very happy to tell 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: a lot of They're very happy to crush a lot 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: of people's dreams. And as we saw in this case, 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: a lot of like Asian kids who are geniuses dreams. 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: You very happy to tell them you don't get to 78 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: go to Harvard because we think that there's something more 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: important than the excellence you've shown academically. The whole thing 80 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: is premised on how hard is it to get in? 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: Because then that becomes how valuable is this in the marketplace, 82 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 3: the job marketplace when you graduate? And what does this mean? 83 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: The value of a Yale to why won't Yale ever 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: change its name? Yale's name for a slave trader? 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Everybody? 86 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yale will never ever ever change its name as 87 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: university because you go there so that when you're at 88 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: a cocktail party or a job interview, you go well 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: as a Yale man and everyone goes who. But here's 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: my point. I don't think everyone goes oooh anymore. I 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: think that people less and less think that this stuff 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: relie even matters. Clay I got into Ivy League, Business, 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: NBA programs. 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: I didn't do it. I went to work for Glenn instead. 95 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: So I sit here as somebody who went through this. 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: Right now, you could say, well, I went to undergrad. 97 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, But what I realized was that I know plenty 98 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: of people that get these MBAs because I think, oh, 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: it's going to open all these doors to be amazing. 100 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: Maybe it's all very situational. It's not some golden ticket 101 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: to this amazing future. And that's to your point. What 102 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: the promise is for all these kids is if you 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: get in, it's going to be such an easier life 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: for you. Now for a lot of people going to 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: the you know, sometimes it's better to be on the 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: on the you know, the the other team, the practice team, 107 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: so you can get better and better and then you know, 108 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: life is a long game. 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: I just feel like people need to stop thinking that 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: it's interesting. 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 1: Buck GW was probably the worst school that I got into, 112 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: but they gave me an academic scholarship, and there are 113 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot of kids out there right now who Let's 114 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: say you live in Georgia. The University of Georgia has 115 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: an incredible honors college. You might get into Emory, you 116 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: might get into Vanderbilt, you might get into Duke. I 117 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: bet the education that you're going to get in the 118 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: honors college at Georgia is every bit is good. 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: You asked a good question. 120 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: You said, Hey, I don't think that I got a 121 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: single benefit from going to George Washington University. I mean, 122 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I take a shot at gw 123 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: It's a great school in DC. If your kids just 124 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: got in and you're like, it's no exciting in the Northeast, 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: It's considered like a rich kids school. So because it 127 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: was the most expensive school in the country, and it's. 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Certainly a super rich kid school, and those rich kids 129 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: help pay for my scholarship. 130 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: So I thank them for that. 131 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Right that's they charge a lot, but fabulous place to 132 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: go all these things. I will say, grad school, Vanderbilt 133 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: University of Law School. 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: I do think in my experience. 135 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: Where you go to law school, the alumni networks are 136 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: very helpful. In getting you those initial jobs when you 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: come out of law school, because they have all on 138 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: campus interviews. I think Vanderbilt University of Law School. I 139 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: met my wife there some the best three years of 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: my life I've ever spent. I can't speak highly enough 141 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: about it. But I also think a lot of people 142 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: come out of law school they have so much debt 143 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: buck they have to go. You know this, your sister 144 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: is in a big firm. Like the big firm lifestyle 145 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: is not conducive to people being like this is amazing. 146 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: You work eighty hours a week. You basically are chained 147 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: to your desk. Much of that time is spent trying 148 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: to pay off of your existing law school loans. You 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: aren't doing, for the most part, high level intellectual work. 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: It's a lot of grunt work. There are worse jobs. 151 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it, but I do think this idea 152 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: gets old to kids that that is oftentimes not reflective. 153 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: And look what I did. 154 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: I went into media and ended up, you know, completely 155 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: doing something different, right. 156 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I was gonna say, I remember at Amherst 157 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: where I went, they they was all this on campus recruiting, 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: and it was really overwhelmingly in two fields, because you've 159 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: got to remember this is two thousand and four, so 160 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: it's pre Great Recession, and you know it was investment 161 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: banking and management consulting. 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: Go work for Goldman, go work for McKenzie. 163 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: That was kind of or some variation of of you 164 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: know those firms out there, you know, JP Morgan or whatever. 165 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Those are sweatshops out there for people who don't know 166 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: what investment banking jobs are. 167 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: For young kids, they are brutal. Well, see, this is 168 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: what I was gonna tell everybody. Of the people I 169 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: knew who did that, and a lot of my my 170 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: graduating class went to those places, almost none of them 171 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: stayed in those fields. 172 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Almost none of them. 173 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: I mean at this point, I mean one out of 174 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: one out of twenty one out of thirty maybe are 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: still working. And I mean I'm much talking about at 176 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: that firm. I mean in that business. I had a 177 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: friend who got out, went into finance and he opened 178 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: he got into the restaurant business. I had another friend 179 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: who got it, went into finance and then he went. 180 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: So now people will argue, they'll say, well, it's a 181 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: huge benefit to your resume to go to one of 182 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: those fancy places. 183 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: It helps you go other places. 184 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: The point is that the way that career fields work, 185 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: now you and I are both examples of this in 186 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: sort of both different and similar respects, is that you 187 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: figure out which where you have opportunity, where you want 188 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: to be, what you think you're good at, and you 189 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: move and maneuver the spend thirty years at the company 190 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: and be a company man and retire. And that's just 191 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: much less common these days anyway, So that that whole 192 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: notion is, I think is changing very rapidly, and you know. 193 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. Yeah, let me say 194 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: this too. This is a good email I just got 195 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: from one of our listeners, Carl. He said, I have 196 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: to disagree with your statement that a university degree doesn't 197 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: matter after your first job. I'm sixty years old, and 198 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: my association and degrees from Texas A and M help 199 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: me regularly in my business. Otherwise, you and Buck have 200 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: a great show. It's a good point I should bring up. 201 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I do think Buck, you were mentioning athletics. Otherwise, good show. 202 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell yeah, I'll take it you're totally wrong on 203 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: which I respect. You're totally wrong on this. I will say, 204 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: if you have a strong association with your alumni group, 205 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes that can be Hey, we are all Monster 206 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: fans of and I bet this guy is a big 207 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Texas A and m Fight Naggi fan, and you go 208 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: back to games all the time and your network is 209 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: very much connected in that way that can have a 210 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: long term impact in a super positive way. Where it's 211 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily though the degree. It's basically the fraternity and 212 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: relationships that you have with all of these people. And 213 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: if you are a diehard fan of a sports team, 214 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: it is true that you may look at some of 215 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: those initial applications when they come in and be like, oh, 216 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: this person went to my favorite school, and you may 217 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: be more likely to respond to it. I don't think 218 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: anybody ever saw me go to GW and was like, oh, 219 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I got to give this kid a job. Now I 220 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: went straight to law school again. I'm not trying to 221 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: take a shot at GW because I don't want somebody 222 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: out Inevitably, people that are out there buck right now. 223 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, little Susie or little Johnny just 224 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: graduating from high school and the family's ecstatic and they're 225 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: going to be paying X number of dollars and everything. 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I think it's the individual. That's my ultimate take is, 227 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: but you can also get a great education. 228 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: We live in an era with the the democratization of education, 229 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: and your ability to be an autodidact of a really 230 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: high caliber is leaps. 231 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: And bounds beyond what itever used to be. 232 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: I don't even think that many people know whether it's 233 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: Cohn Academy or you know, they're a whole series of Yale. 234 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I've listen our friends at Hillsdale who put 235 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: out incredible programming all the time that you can go 236 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: check out for that's free. 237 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's but that's what I mean. You can 238 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: you have access to whole university lecture series and and 239 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: their reading list if you want, which any of you 240 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: have been in the university, you know, that's basically what 241 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: college is. You go to lectures, you do some papers, 242 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: you have exams, rints, repeat, that's what it is. So 243 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: it's it's all out there. You can get an excellent Uh, 244 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: you can get an excellent, excellent education at at so 245 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: many of these places. They all have the resources and 246 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: the basics to put it in place for you. But 247 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: I think that people are going to be changing a 248 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: lot of their their view here that you know, I'll 249 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: tell you, growing up in New York City, Clay, it's 250 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: if you didn't get into an IVY or something similar. 251 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh man, Everyone's like, oh, that's that's rough. You know, 252 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: just is obsessed with school, obsessed with this stuff almost, 253 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: you know, and and everyone can point out, well, yeah, 254 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: Stanford's not an IVY, Duke's not an IVY, et cetera. 255 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: Those are amazing schools in terms of the you know, 256 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: the difficulty of getting in. But I think that it's changed. 257 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: I think the whole system has changed, and it's in 258 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: part because of legacy admissions, athletic recruiting, affirmative action. There 259 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: are reasons that people get into these schools that aren't 260 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: that they're such amazing. I wouldn't even say that, you know, 261 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: it's about how It's not about how smart somebody is, 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: but how well did they perform academically in high school. 263 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: There are a lot of people who didn't perform very 264 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: well academically in high school who went to these places. 265 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, that's you know. 266 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: I mean I think famously Jared Kushner was like dead 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: last in his class in high school, went to Harvard. 268 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that, yes I will. I will 269 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: say this to Buck. The best argument I think you 270 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: can make is one that Carl kind of hit on. 271 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: I think the peer group, to the extent that you 272 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: pay for your peer group being surrounded by super smart people. 273 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: I think you learn more outside of college oftentimes than 274 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: you do in the classroom, and certainly the relationships that 275 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: you make with the classmates that you meet there ends 276 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: up being the most valuable aspect I would say, of college, 277 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: or law school, or any graduate degree that you would get. 278 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: But it's just such a fascinating, such a fascinating debate 279 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: and discussion. I think in general that's all tied in 280 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: with what the Supreme Court did today. You feel the 281 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: effects of inflation every day, whether you're at the gas station, supermarket, 282 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: or even just buying a cup of coffee. If you're 283 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: a homeowner, you're likely feeling it with every repair. We 284 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: tend to pay a lot for our bills these days. 285 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Guess what we do with a credit card. That means 286 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: US consumer debt levels are up over a trillion dollars 287 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: in the last twelve months, the biggest increase in two decades. 288 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: If you're a homeowner, there's a way out. 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You can 302 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: also visit Americanfinancing dot net, NMLS one eight three one 303 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: eight two three four NMLS, consumer access dot org. 304 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: From the front lines of truth, Klay Travis and Buck 305 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: Sexton and welcome Africclayan, Buck Hunter Biden giving a depositions 306 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: in laptop lawsuit that up on Fox Now. We're gonna 307 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: continue to follow that story very closely. What's going to 308 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: happen there. Joe Biden, what was it? He said he 309 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: got a scholarship on top of his class. To be fair, 310 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: Jared did not graduate in the bottom of his class, 311 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: but he did have a two point five million gift 312 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: given in his name, which was probably helpful to get 313 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: into Harvard. 314 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Got to get the facts right here. 315 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Wait Hunter went to Yale Law School. 316 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: That's the hardest law school in the country to get into. 317 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: Everybody just you know, they accept something like two percent 318 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: of the people who get in. So the elite stuff 319 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: happens on on you know, the Democrats, Republicans not as 320 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: much Republicans. If you have a famous last name and 321 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: you're a Democrat, you will get into. I think I 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: didn't Cuomo, bro Cuomo, not Andrew. The other one, Chris, 323 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: he got into. I think he's a Yale law grad 324 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: as well, because his dad was Mario Cuomo, the you know, 325 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: well known Democrat governor of New York. If you're if 326 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: you're a Kennedy, if you're a Clinton, if you're any 327 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: of these, you will get into. Did any school reject 328 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: Sasha or Malia Obama? 329 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: No, they got into absolutely every school. 330 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: They have every school they applied, but you know what, 331 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: they only I bet they only applied to one Harvard. 332 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: That would be my guess. I don't even know where 333 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: they went. 334 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was if you're a powerful Democrat politician, your kids, 335 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: it's a safety school for them to apply to Harvard. 336 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Basically you're good to go. You're getting in, so that Look, 337 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of this is what I mean, though, 338 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: there are a lot of games. People write big checks, 339 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: people have famous last names. So you start to add 340 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: all this up, you realize, you know, you're it is 341 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: supposed to be about education. It's supposed to be about 342 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: learning stuff and growing as a person. The notion of 343 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: this as some kind of a golden ticket to this 344 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: amazing future where you make all this money. I know 345 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: plenty of kids went to Ivy League schools who didn't 346 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: really amount to very much. So yeah, it's not a 347 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: guarant not a guarantee of anything. Clay was pointing out 348 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: that the UH, the president of Harvard UH has already 349 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: come out with a statement. And what they're gonna do 350 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: here is that I can already see how this is going. 351 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: I think Columbia University dropped Sat requirements. Yeah, as a 352 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: so they're gonna drop SAT requirements. If you are not 353 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: a preferred minority, you're gonna have to share your sets 354 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: or else you have no chance of getting in. And 355 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: if you are a preferred minority by these schools, you're 356 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: gonna have to write an essay about how much racism 357 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: and discrimination you faced, and then you'll. 358 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: Say, already sent an email buck Harvard University said. The 359 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: court ruled that colleges and universities may consider and admissions 360 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: decisions quote and applicants discussion of how race affected his 361 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise. 362 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: They will have these essays which are default the test 363 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: for who is actually a minority, right, And I think 364 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: you're right. I think the actual makeup of Harvard's class 365 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: will not change one iota. 366 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: Yep, it's not gonna change. 367 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: So the only way this will change is if somebody 368 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 3: and they're gonna really clamp down on how people get 369 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: information about about admissions. You're just gonna have to sue 370 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: these places. You're gonna have to sue them a lot. 371 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: Otherwise nothing's gonna change. Might not change anyway. Look, this 372 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: could go down as the worst government power grab in history. 373 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: According to someone who knows doctor Nomi Prins, our financial 374 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: system could soon spiral into chaos. 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One 393 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: thing that I don't think we should ignore the Supreme 394 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Court just ruled that colleges and universities can't do exactly 395 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden did when he took could put Katanji 396 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court, one of the three 397 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: people who said affirmative action should still be legal. You'll 398 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: recall that Biden specifically made the promise as he campaigned 399 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: in South Carolina in the spring of twenty twenty that 400 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: if there were a Supreme Court vacancy, he would only 401 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. In so doing, 402 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: he directly eliminated ninety four percent of the qualified applicants 403 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: in the United States to sit on the Supreme Court. 404 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: Probably higher than that, because I don't know what percentage 405 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: of black women are lawyers in this country. But anyone 406 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: who was a warrior that was not a black woman 407 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: was not eligible to be considered. I theoretically, Buck could 408 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: be considered to sit on the Supreme Court. Right, I 409 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: was not specifically considered by Joe Biden because I'm a 410 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: white guy. That would not be allowed. 411 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: Probably not the only reason, but was a reason. 412 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: To be fair, Yeah, there are many reasons why I 413 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: was not considered, but Buck. What's interesting about this is 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: first of all, probably is unconstitutional what Joe Biden did. 415 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: But and this ties into me with the Supreme Court 416 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: decision today. If Joe Biden had just put out buck 417 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: a list like Donald Trump did, of twenty people that 418 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: he was considering to name as a Supreme Court justice, 419 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and one of them was Katanji Brown Jackson, he could 420 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: have come out and said, I interviewed all twenty of 421 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: these people. I found Katanji Brown Jackson to be the 422 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: most qualified. You or I might not agree with it, 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: but at least it would have considered her in comparison 424 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: with her other contenders to sit on the Supreme Court. 425 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: When he said I'm only going to take a black woman, 426 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: he actually demeaned his selection before he even made it. 427 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: And I hinted at this and we kind of mentioned 428 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: it in the first hour. The data reflects that this 429 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: actually becomes a major issue with affirmative action, because people 430 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: get into schools that they're not qualified to get into, 431 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: and then they fail more often than if they had 432 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: gone to a better match of a school where they 433 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: would fit the overall undergraduate student body better. So this 434 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: to me is just fascinating because Katanji Brown Jackson is dissenting. 435 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: At least she's being consistent. 436 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: But Joe Biden's very own qualifications by which he selected 437 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: his only Supreme Court justice are not actually constitutional if 438 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: they were being applied beyond just colleges and universities. And 439 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: that raises this question, Buck, does this opinion actually start 440 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: to call into question the entire DEEI diversity, equity and 441 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: inclusion narrative that has taken over so many parts of 442 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: our government and public companies. 443 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: You'd have to wonder what about government contracts that are 444 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: specific to minorities? Yeah, what about privileged or you know, 445 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: specific hiring of minorities by private companies. If it's illegal 446 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: now unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of race in 447 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: college admissions, shouldn't it be unconstitutional to hire on the 448 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 3: basis of race. I would like to see how that 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: argument goes. I think we are going to be heading 450 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: in that direction. So you know that they It's also 451 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: interesting I find that the weakest of all the defenses 452 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: you hear about this stuff, the same Democrats who you 453 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: know would were celebrating, you know, Obergefel as the greatest 454 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: thing in history and whatever you think about that. Obergerfeld 455 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: was a departure from what had been the law of 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: the land in this country for a very long time. 457 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: Meaning a sweeping Supreme Court decision of any kind that 458 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: the left likes is finally justice. A Supreme Court decision 459 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: that goes against previous decisions the left doesn't like. 460 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: Starry decisis the Court has already ruled on the You. 461 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: Know, it's all so obvious and goes right align with 462 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 3: what we do expect. But when you really look at 463 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: the precedents here, the precedents were super weak. The precedents 464 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: are we won't you know, hopefully we won't need this 465 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: in twenty five years. That's not the constitution is not 466 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: that we won't. 467 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: Need this in twenty five years. Document right. 468 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: The notion also of diversity as an educational benefit, What 469 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 3: does that mean? It's a phrase that we've all been 470 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: taught that has no actual diversity of what, how, how much, when, 471 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: for how long? 472 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: And what does it do? 473 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: And that came up specifically in the in the majority 474 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: opinion as well. How are we supposed to MEAs how 475 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: can we know if we got rid of this that 476 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: there won't be just as much diversity in the classroom? 477 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: They have no answers to any of this. 478 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: They just have. 479 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: There's so much racism in America and we want special 480 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: stuff for some people. 481 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: That's it. 482 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that, Buck, because diversity of 483 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: thought is the only diversity that matters, and implicitly, especially 484 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: in an educational context, because without diversity of thought, you 485 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: don't learn how to debate. You don't learn how to 486 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: contemplate ideas that you may or may not agree with 487 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: going forward. I've got a fifteen year old in debate 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: camp right now. You'd have loved the text that he 489 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: was sending me. 490 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Buck. 491 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: They're learning about modern monetary theory, and he had not 492 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: experienced the idea of modern monetary theory, which is the 493 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: underlying aspect of the Biden administration when they came into office. Hey, 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: we'll just print as much debt as we want. There's 495 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: no such thing as a national debt. I'm simplifying it, 496 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: But I said, you know, this is so important because 497 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: you need to understand the entire scope of left and 498 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: right political arguments in order to figure out what the 499 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: right side is in your opinion. You don't win in 500 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: the court of intellectual opinion by only considering one side 501 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: of a spectrum argument, you've got to understand the totality 502 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: of it. And that's why diversity of thought is the 503 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: only diversity that matters. But buck implicit in the idea 504 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: of diversity as a classroom justification is the idea that 505 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: we're all different based on our race, which I fundamentally reject. 506 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I think that most of us have far more in 507 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: common across racial lines. And by the way, we should 508 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: play this because this is Joe Biden just had Merrick Garland, 509 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: his Attorney General, walk out and say questioning the rule 510 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: of law, and I'm paraphrasing him, is a direct assault 511 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: upon democracy. That's what he said when any of us said, hey, 512 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: it feels like hunter Biden's getting a sweetheart deal. This 513 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like actual justice. Biden was asked after his 514 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Affirmative Action comments about whether this was this Supreme Court. 515 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Let me just play the audio. He's asked a question. 516 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: I want you to hear it. I want you to 517 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: hear His response is okay, if you had trouble hearing that. 518 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: He was asked, is this a rogue court? And then 519 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: he said, this is not a normal court, but they 520 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: are setting the table to pack the court and add 521 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: more justices. But that's a direct attack upon the independence 522 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: of the judiciary, which Mayor Garland just said was unacceptable. 523 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: Yep, there's really no particularly stable and consistent arguments that 524 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: you'll hear in favor of keeping. 525 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: The left has decided they like this. 526 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: They like this process of affirmative action and college admissions. 527 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: It makes them feel good about themselves to support it, 528 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: and particularly the Democrat elites who espouse this stuff. Their 529 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: attitude is always, as long as my kids get into 530 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: great schools through whatever means necessary. Sure, affirmative action is 531 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: fine with me. So I but I believe this is 532 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: going to create there'll be more things that now have 533 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: to be visited. I think now you have to on 534 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: what basis can you have constitutionally speaking, racial preferences and hiring. 535 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: I mean, if you can't have it in college admissions, 536 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: how can you have it in hiring. It'll be more 537 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: difficult in private employers to analyze it because it's a 538 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: private's a private institution. Well, but they take a lot 539 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: of federal funds, so I think that's part of the 540 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: way that they tie that in. Now, your point, I think, 541 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: which is one hundred percent true, This to me would 542 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: destroy the idea. Let's say that you are out there 543 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: and you're making a you're doing a new road, and 544 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: the road has to be twenty percent completed by minority 545 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: owned businesses. Right, how is that justifiable when it is 546 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: federal tax payer dollars that are paying for an interstate 547 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: I would think the same logic would apply here as 548 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: would apply meaning to the colleges and universities, as would 549 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: apply to that. And by the way, Buck, that's a 550 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: total sham a lot of times because people will just 551 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: put a minority at the top of the of the 552 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: of the ledger, and then they'll get that minority contract, 553 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: even though a lot of times this is behind the 554 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: you know how these construction businesses work. A lot of times, 555 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: it's not actually anything different, right, It's it's the same 556 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: subcontractors and contractors that are doing the work. Look, I 557 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: think that it's a great day for the constitution and 558 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: the rule of law in this country. But I think 559 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: it's also just the beginning of more that has to 560 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: come for this to be for the for the equal 561 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: protection of a law to be meaningful. This notion that 562 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: institutions can treat people differently based on skin color privileging 563 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 3: some at the expense of others. This is wrong and 564 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: it has to be dealt with. Then we have to 565 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: erase this from our society the same way that people 566 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: would view racial discrimination of the past is wrong, and 567 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: obviously that is true. Racial discrimination of the present is wrong, 568 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: and I would suggest this also. Buck is a huge 569 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: opportunity for Republicans to reach out to Asian voters. You 570 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 3: saw this happen with lee Z Eldon in the New 571 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: York election. I think that a lot of Asian voters, 572 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: because they believe in the meritocracy, are natural Republican voters. 573 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: They just haven't realized it yet. And I think this 574 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: is an example of how you reach out to them. 575 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: We've been making that. 576 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot of arguments been made like that for 577 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: a long time. I don't I mean, I don't think 578 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: this is going to move the needle of Asian voters particularly, 579 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: but we'll see. 580 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: It does at the state and local There are such 581 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: a you are such a pessimist. I gotta I gotta 582 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: get you. 583 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I gotta get you to uh to to buy into 584 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: the to the the the destruction of identity politics. 585 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: I really do think it's going to happen. 586 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Buck, I think in the next decade the entire identity 587 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: politics pyramid is going to collapse. 588 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: I think you're calling you're calling for the collapse of 589 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party there so I'll remind you. Currently we're 590 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: in year three of the Kamala administration. 591 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: God, now I'm really pessimist, for I don't know if 592 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I can do three years of Kamala. Fourth of July 593 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: weekend means lots of family gatherings barbecues. But if you're lucky, 594 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: it also means downtime, either to relax or get a 595 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: few projects done. One project. A lot of you put 596 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: off digitizing old media from back in the day. If 597 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you've got a box full of family videos from the 598 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: eighties or the nineties, it's time to preserve them because 599 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: those tapes they're not going to last forever. The magnetic strip, 600 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: do you know, it disintegrates with time. A lot of 601 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: people have forgotten that you might not even have a 602 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: VCR in your house to watch those old tapes. Why 603 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: not go ahead and take care of these long term 604 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: memories with Legacy Box their company based in Tennessee. They've 605 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: got the technology, the gear, and an expertly trained staff, 606 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: You ship them your tapes and boom they come back. 607 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Preserve forever digitally. Right now, they have a special offer 608 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: sixty six percent off their regular price, just nine dollars 609 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: per videotape. 610 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: It's easy to do. 611 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Go online to legacybox dot com slash clay to shop 612 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: their nine dollars tape sale. That's legacybox dot com slash 613 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: clay to get a nine dollars per videotape sale price 614 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Clay and fuck four. 615 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. 616 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: Just to let you know, in the next hour, we're 617 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: gonna talk about this, uh, this cage up in New 618 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: York City where a guy who defended himself on the 619 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: train was released from no more charges haven't drop basically, uh, 620 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: And we'll give you the details on that story. It's 621 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: interesting because a lot of people are drawing parallels to 622 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: the Daniel Penny story and wondering, well, why. 623 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: Is one of these outcomes so different? 624 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: Already, someone who is threatened by someone and now we'll 625 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: get into the details of it. I won't get into 626 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: all the details right this second. We'll get to it though, 627 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: coming up here in just a minute. 628 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: Now we have. 629 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: Who is on the lines Jane in Emerald Isle, North 630 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: Carolina in college. 631 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: What's going on? Jane? 632 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: And one is a volunteer. Well, I'm two kids in 633 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: college and the reality is this, the college never makes 634 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: the student. The student makes the college. And your skin color, 635 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: your sexual preference, or religion, that's not the issue. It's 636 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: what the student brings to the table. 637 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's true at any at any 638 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: of these institutions. It's what someone makes of it. I 639 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: knew plenty of people that went to the fanciest, most 640 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: elite schools who used it as a bong and beer 641 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: session for four years and graduated and wondered why everybody 642 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: wasn't so impressed. I know other people, Clay, that went 643 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: to your college or then or a community college, and 644 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: then they maybe got into another program to specialize, and 645 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, they own like ten 646 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: businesses and have got one hundred and fifty employees. 647 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 648 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes people use getting to a good college as if 649 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: it's the end. I think that's good advice that you 650 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: need to give to kids out there. Okay, congratulations, you 651 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: got into a good college. You're not done right, but 652 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: it's just really the start of your adult wife and 653 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people miss that. 654 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: I gave an impromptu speech a long time ago at 655 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: my high school, just before I was even working in media. 656 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: I was still the CIA at the time, but they 657 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: asked me to come and talk to the outgoing senior 658 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: class and it was fall of the of their graduation year, 659 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: and I said, look, you guys have great grades. You're 660 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: going to great schools, fantastic, so do a lot of 661 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: other people. Every awesome job that you want that you're 662 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: going to apply for, there are going to be fifty 663 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: to one hundred other people with excellent credentials that want 664 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: that job, and thousands of other people that would love 665 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: that job that they could have it. 666 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: So it takes a lot more than just. 667 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: You know, well, I have a four point three And 668 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: I was also I thought, it's a four point system. 669 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: This is one thing I don't know how it was 670 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: in other school we had. 671 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: A four point system. People say, oh, I had a 672 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 2: five point five GPA or something. I'm like, what is this. 673 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing that out there. I don't know what 674 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: that is all about. 675 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: That's why they had to put in play standardized testing 676 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: because everybody had all these different GPA standards and it's 677 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: not all equal art in Taylor, Texas. 678 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: What's up art. 679 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: Hey that much? Guys, Clay, I agree with your assessment 680 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 5: on your opening monologue about ninety percent of it the 681 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: other ten percent when you said, at some point there 682 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 5: still has to be some socio economic or race taken 683 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 5: into consideration, just not checking the box on the front page. 684 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: No. 685 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, so let me explain that I think that merit. 686 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: Part of merit is not only looking at who can 687 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: rise to the highest level. It's considering what you've overcome. 688 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: And to me, if you are in that bottom ten 689 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: percent of income and you have risen to the point 690 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: where you are in the mix. I also think, and 691 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Buck, a lot of these schools, 692 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: the kids that go to Harvard and Yale, they don't 693 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: have a real idea of what it's like to not 694 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: be rich like they are overwhelmingly filled with the kids 695 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: of the super rich. So yeah, I understand some people disagree. 696 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: I think socioeconomic diversity is more important by far than 697 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: racial diversity, because a rich black kid who's got parents 698 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: who are doctors and lawyers is no different than, in 699 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, a rich white kid with the same. 700 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 5: Background you're proposing making up for the deficiencies of the 701 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 5: education system between the grades of K through twelve. We're 702 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: gonna make it all up when they enter college. Now, Now, 703 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: your argument is a great point for school choice because 704 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: if these kids, even though they come from a poor 705 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 5: background or maybe not a family that's supporting education, if 706 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 5: they had school choice I as one example, they wouldn't 707 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 5: you wouldn't need to associate them. 708 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: It's a great point. And this ties in with bucks point. 709 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: You know who really favors school choice, rich people. If 710 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: you're wealthy enough to put your I'm fortunate to do it. 711 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate. My kids went to public school for most 712 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: of their for K through six. I've got kids now 713 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: in private school. If you're wealthy enough to put your 714 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: kids in private school. Those rich Democrats in Congress who 715 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: are opposed to school choice, they don't oppose it in 716 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: their own life. They are just opposed to people having 717 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: school choice who don't have the same economic resources as them. 718 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: Patricia from Dayton, Ohio, want to get you in here. 719 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: What's up, Patricia? Oh, maybe Patricia doesn't want to weigh in. 720 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I do. 721 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 6: Had sym static I'd like to address the other side 722 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: of the coin that you actually did for me. And 723 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 6: that was a conversation that I heard on Russia's program 724 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 6: from Thomas soul when he was talking about the individual 725 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 6: who is the recipient of primative action and the destruction 726 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 6: that this does for these young people that come in 727 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 6: and they don't have the background to compete and they 728 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 6: leave school, they are not successful when and Thomas Soule's 729 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 6: point was if they had been allowed or sent to 730 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 6: a community college or college within their state that had 731 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 6: the curriculum that they could. 732 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: Handle, Yeah, the skills mismatched. I remember Thomas Sole's about 733 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: it many times.