Speaker 1: To announce the Philadelphia Eagles selection. Please welcome from the
Speaker 1: University of Michigan. Selected in the fourth round in the
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six draft, offensive tackle and congressman John Runyon
Speaker 1: with the forty seventh pick to the twenty fifteen NFL
Speaker 1: Draft to Philadelphia Eagles select Eric Rowe, defensive Backue Tall.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite players in the draft. Almost six
Speaker 1: one two five. Eric Rowe played free safety for three
Speaker 1: years before kicking over the corner this year. He's got
Speaker 1: length and cover skills. He's a top fifty pick all
Speaker 1: day long. And Charles we both felt like this was
Speaker 1: a guy that could line up outside as a matchup
Speaker 1: guy against some of those big wide receivers in today's NFL,
Speaker 1: but also kick inside on the tight ends like Gronkowski,
Speaker 1: and that's what he did at Utah last year. They
Speaker 1: used him as a specialty player, that chess piece that
Speaker 1: can move all over the board where they needed him
Speaker 1: on whatever down. That's where he went to me. This
Speaker 1: is a pit coach strong to deal with their division.
Speaker 1: You gotta deal with Dez Bryant and Dallas. You gotta
Speaker 1: deal with Odell Beckham in New York. This is why
Speaker 1: they went and got him. Well, you look at corners now,
Speaker 1: you're always looking for size, and even us on the
Speaker 1: college level, you're looking for a guy six foot or taller,
Speaker 1: and that way you can always match up where you
Speaker 1: can match up outside and inside, because what a lot
Speaker 1: of people are doing now and you're a lot of
Speaker 1: offenses stiff from their best receiver inside and so they're
Speaker 1: looking for a matchup problem. So you don't have to
Speaker 1: take a corner. And you look at him. Erica has
Speaker 1: enough ability where he can go play the nipple position
Speaker 1: and he can go cover the inside and then if
Speaker 1: you need to bounce an outside just base down play,
Speaker 1: he can go outside of player. And that's another Pack
Speaker 1: twelve player for Chip Kelly, who has now made seventeen
Speaker 1: draft choices or been part of it since coming off
Speaker 1: the campus of the University of Oregon. We're live here
Speaker 1: at the Novicare Complex, Dave Spidero and Merrill Reese. The
Speaker 1: Eagles have made a trade, as you know the details,
Speaker 1: and they select Eric Rowth from the University of Utah. Merril, well,
Speaker 1: that is the guy we were looking for them to select.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that they had writted very, very highly
Speaker 1: and as a matter of fact, Dave, he was selected
Speaker 1: as the defensive back with the best athletic skills at
Speaker 1: the entire combine. I am very interested to hear from
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly whether he plans to use him as a
Speaker 1: cornerback or a safety. He has considered to be a
Speaker 1: corner with safety skills right, so played for safety at
Speaker 1: safety I believe three years at Utah played cornerback last year.
Speaker 1: Big Range actually watched the tape of him with Mike
Speaker 1: Mayock one day and enjoyed that, And yeah, fills the
Speaker 1: need for this football team. The Eagles dealing their pick
Speaker 1: in round number two, that's the fifty second pick overall,
Speaker 1: as well as two picks in the fifth round, one
Speaker 1: forty five and one fifty six overall, they get back
Speaker 1: the forty seventh pick, which is Eric Row, and the
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety first pick overall. That's a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick from the Miami Dolphins. And Eric Row is
Speaker 1: the latest Philadelphia Eagle at a position of need and
Speaker 1: still and fits the requirements that the Eagles are looking for.
Speaker 1: Paul rangee versatile, physical, and we'll see what he projects
Speaker 1: as ship Kelly will be along in just a little
Speaker 1: bit to meet the media and explain the move up. Now,
Speaker 1: the Eagles wanted to keep all of their draft picks,
Speaker 1: certainly not the case where they felt that Row would
Speaker 1: not be there at fifty two, so they make the
Speaker 1: move up. They give up the fifth round draft picks,
Speaker 1: So the Eagles out of round number five tomorrow, but
Speaker 1: they do pick up a second pick one overall in
Speaker 1: the sixth rounds. Yeah, but this is good. This is
Speaker 1: good because two picks so far, and they got two
Speaker 1: very highly rated players. They got the wide receiver that
Speaker 1: they loved, Nelson Aglare, and then to life they got
Speaker 1: the safety or a quarter that they also thought very
Speaker 1: very good. Chip Kelly at the podium speed parameter, it's
Speaker 1: kind of off the charts in terms of what he
Speaker 1: can do from a physical standpoint. So, um, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of things that stood out for him. You know,
Speaker 1: he's another guy. Will get him here and throw him
Speaker 1: in the mix with the guys we got in the
Speaker 1: secondary and then figure it out at that point in
Speaker 1: time to evaluate chorus. Now, when you work out dbs,
Speaker 1: you kind of it's a dB workout hill. Every skill
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of highlighted ball skills, change of direction, backpedal,
Speaker 1: ability to flip your hips, all those things are highlighted,
Speaker 1: whether you're a safety or whether you're you know, it's
Speaker 1: really basically almost most teams to kind of use the
Speaker 1: same workout whatever dB you're looking at. So did you
Speaker 1: moved up? Yeah, we were working it a little bit there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we we felt and you know, he was the
Speaker 1: guy we wanted all along. You know, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been surprised if he went a lot earlier. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of had him and Byron Jones with the
Speaker 1: two guys who really kind of targeted. Obviously, when Byron
Speaker 1: went off the board really early, we were nearly uh
Speaker 1: nervous and just hoping that there's a chance he could fall,
Speaker 1: and um, it worked out for us. He's a taller,
Speaker 1: longer guy, so you know, you hope those are the things.
Speaker 1: But we'll get him in here and look at look
Speaker 1: at everything he can do. The fact that he's he's
Speaker 1: he's got that many starts under his about that safety,
Speaker 1: but then really excelled this last year at Corner and
Speaker 1: then you know, um, I think was kind of very
Speaker 1: intriguing to us, though I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: get ahead of because what was going on is a
Speaker 1: lot of people were trading up. So if you looked
Speaker 1: at the board and said, hey, I think they need
Speaker 1: a corner, then all of a sudden you look up
Speaker 1: and someone jumped them and took that spot. So there
Speaker 1: was a couple more trades ahead of us where you
Speaker 1: were you were interested, and you're like, okay, I don't look.
Speaker 1: You look at a team here, maybe they took a
Speaker 1: corner in the first round. You feel pretty good, but
Speaker 1: then someone jumps into that spot, you know, so you
Speaker 1: really can't predict what's going on. There's I know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of phone calling going
Speaker 1: on around the league. It seems like right now in
Speaker 1: the second round, yeahs Miami, the first team, you looked
Speaker 1: at her and you try to do this. Now, we
Speaker 1: were working for a while the scheme specific skills at
Speaker 1: at at safety does he have Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: what we're looking for. We're looking for safeties that can cover.
Speaker 1: And this kid played actually corner, you know, So he's
Speaker 1: got those skills and um, he can play corner, you know.
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll we'll figure out exactly where he fits.
Speaker 1: But he may start out at corner force. You know,
Speaker 1: we we've got we've got a lot of time here,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, it's it's it was getting what
Speaker 1: we felt was the best secondary guy out there for
Speaker 1: what we do, and that's what we was. He was
Speaker 1: a guy we targeted since the draft ended last night
Speaker 1: that that was the guy, that's the guy we wanted
Speaker 1: when he was at safety and play. Yeah, he played
Speaker 1: free safety. He started thirty three games at free safety,
Speaker 1: started three games at throng safety. So he's done at both.
Speaker 1: He's been down on the box and he's been a
Speaker 1: high safety and he's also played obviously corner. So you know,
Speaker 1: really the one guy that was kind of prototypical and
Speaker 1: what we're looking for is a defensive player is in
Speaker 1: the secondary was eric Now. I mean you always have
Speaker 1: a you have a wishless kind of going into it.
Speaker 1: But he also and I think I said it yesterday,
Speaker 1: when you when need crosses over the talent line, I
Speaker 1: think that's when you get in trouble because you're reaching.
Speaker 1: So Um, we had a very very high grade on
Speaker 1: eric Um. You know, if we ever traded back, he
Speaker 1: was a guy that we really targeted if we were
Speaker 1: going to move back yesterday, you know, in terms of
Speaker 1: being able to get so um. You know, we we
Speaker 1: were fortunate enough in terms of what we felt about him,
Speaker 1: um to get him where we did other defensive prospects
Speaker 1: prospects before. Tell you what do you see and how
Speaker 1: he can read offense? He's outstanding, you know, really strong
Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, and he's got a very good
Speaker 1: football iq um. You know, I think those are some
Speaker 1: of the things that stood out with him. And I
Speaker 1: think his ability to recall what they did at you
Speaker 1: when you put the tape on, tell you the coverage,
Speaker 1: explain it, but not only explain it from the safety position,
Speaker 1: but explain it from a corner position. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of times they're they're a byproduct
Speaker 1: of their experience, so they don't know what it's like
Speaker 1: when you you kind of move him outside. But he
Speaker 1: can do that because he actually has done it, you know,
Speaker 1: in games. So you really don't, I mean, you just
Speaker 1: it's it starts on what price are you willing to pay?
Speaker 1: You know, what's what do you have to really move?
Speaker 1: And really it's just picks, So you know, what what
Speaker 1: are we willing to give up? You know, we really didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to give up a third or fourth
Speaker 1: if if if we didn't have to um, and obviously
Speaker 1: we didn't. I think we You know a lot of
Speaker 1: times you offer something to a team and they come
Speaker 1: back with a connor offer and say what about this?
Speaker 1: Well that's you know, that's not We're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. You know, that's too much, that's too expensive
Speaker 1: for us to make that move. UM. So it worked
Speaker 1: out in terms of, you know, trade the two fives
Speaker 1: but getting a six back. So it's really we lost
Speaker 1: one player. Yeah, we tried to trade a lot earlier
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, that's kind of how it works with everybody.
Speaker 1: Just like when we were on the clock at twenty yesterday,
Speaker 1: we field it a lot of calls, but we didn't
Speaker 1: feel like it was enough. There wasn't enough offered for
Speaker 1: us to say, okay, we'll take that to move back.
Speaker 1: You know, there's because if you take it and move back,
Speaker 1: you know the player you want may not be there
Speaker 1: when you move back. You kind of you there's that
Speaker 1: you can't predict it. So it's a little bit unpredictable.
Speaker 1: So let me start hearing. I'll come right through. You're
Speaker 1: still kind of getting used to call the trade this.
Speaker 1: We split that up. You know, I think we've done
Speaker 1: a really good job at delegating wherever it is. I know,
Speaker 1: Rick Mueller and Lewis Clark are on the phones. When
Speaker 1: the heads on the phones, I'm on the phone. So
Speaker 1: truly just kind of how it comes in because a
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, you you're trying to get
Speaker 1: involved with something, but then someone's calling you. So there's
Speaker 1: three or four phone lines going on at once. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's very organized up there, not very chaotic at all.
Speaker 1: So I thought we did a really good job in
Speaker 1: terms of handling this and getting out of it what
Speaker 1: we really want to get out of it. And starting
Speaker 1: yesterday when the draft ended, he was a priority for
Speaker 1: us getting up. You know, as we came in here
Speaker 1: today and talked about our strategy, what are we going
Speaker 1: to do, what are we willing to give up um
Speaker 1: to go get that player? And is it too expensive?
Speaker 1: And they were there were you know, we had opportunities
Speaker 1: to move up, but it was just too expensive and
Speaker 1: we didn't. We felt like we wanted, you know, we
Speaker 1: really want to keep our third pick, really want to
Speaker 1: keep our fourth picks up. Let's go to charge. Specifically,
Speaker 1: he ran four four five in the forty. He was
Speaker 1: a three nine four in the short shuttle. He had
Speaker 1: one of the best three cones at the combine, h
Speaker 1: thirty nine inches in the vertical jump. I think twenty
Speaker 1: reps in the bench press. I mean when you look
Speaker 1: at from a height, weight speed factory, he was in
Speaker 1: the top twenty five percent of all the defensive backs
Speaker 1: that were that were out there, and I think in
Speaker 1: most cases in the top ten percent. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: see that it's evident that he's got a skill set
Speaker 1: be available second round Byron Jones. No, we felt if
Speaker 1: we moved back he would probably be there, but he
Speaker 1: would probably go on the first day. When you think
Speaker 1: of value and what's too much to give up and
Speaker 1: a trade chard, we have a trade chard. I think
Speaker 1: it's changed a little bit with the new CBA, and
Speaker 1: there's a formula in there, there's a there's math and
Speaker 1: belt in it. So, um, we have a computer doing it.
Speaker 1: Because that's what I was just going to finish is
Speaker 1: I was told there would be no mass. We have
Speaker 1: a computer that actually computes that for us. So he'd
Speaker 1: just say, what's two fives in this? And then you
Speaker 1: hit a button and it comes right up, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Is it a negative number or a
Speaker 1: positive number? So it's a it's a positive number, we
Speaker 1: would agree to it when it's a negative number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But if you're buying, you may have to give a
Speaker 1: couple points. If you're selling, you obviously want to get
Speaker 1: a couple back. So I don't think we're going to
Speaker 1: play it against UTA two twelve. Would you have exposure
Speaker 1: doom him at all on the field, No, I didn't play.
Speaker 1: We didn't play against h on. I played h only
Speaker 1: game we played against Utuk he was he was still
Speaker 1: in high school, so I did not see him in
Speaker 1: person on film for a cross a bonus, did you
Speaker 1: see him as a college goes You're like like, did
Speaker 1: he catch your eye or while you're on in the
Speaker 1: draft process. No, And when I was at Oregon, I
Speaker 1: wasn't scouting for the NFL, so I wasn't really looking
Speaker 1: to but you can see something. But we were never
Speaker 1: going to play Utah, so I would never look at
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, you know there's a guy. You
Speaker 1: really got to take a look at him and say,
Speaker 1: who's that safety? Because there's a two game stretcher where
Speaker 1: you don't play them so you know, until it's two
Speaker 1: years out. So I didn't really think of it. So
Speaker 1: I thought he fared very well at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think, uh, that's really where the
Speaker 1: first time we got first live action look at him.
Speaker 1: He was a guy that we had identified UM our scouts.
Speaker 1: Trey Brown did a great job kind of um laying
Speaker 1: the groundwork and one of the first you know, when
Speaker 1: we were out there and we had our first initial
Speaker 1: meetings before we went to the Senior Bowl. Certainly a
Speaker 1: guy we had to keep an eye on. We had
Speaker 1: a lot of people look to really take a good
Speaker 1: hard look at him at the Senior Bowl and that
Speaker 1: was our real for our coaching staff and Ed and myself,
Speaker 1: UM and the other scouts besides Tray. That was our
Speaker 1: real first exposure to him, and we were impressed with
Speaker 1: him from then. I think there was a sil size
Speaker 1: of the Dold prospect last year. The utime play the
Speaker 1: quarterback safety. Yeah, I know, Keith McGill. He was a
Speaker 1: little bit taller, a little bit longer. While you were
Speaker 1: looking at if you were going to Eric kind of
Speaker 1: pop out. Also, even though he was not. Now, we're
Speaker 1: really just focusing on that class, you know, so we
Speaker 1: don't really start looking at the next group until until
Speaker 1: you start, you know, the next class. So what are
Speaker 1: his strengths specifically as a corner press. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: press corner. He's that big, physical press corner we're looking for.
Speaker 1: He's over two hundred and five pounds long, arms, physical,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's why Utah moved him outside. Um,
Speaker 1: they felt like that he had the skill set and
Speaker 1: it was a good move by Kyle in terms of
Speaker 1: doing it, and really one of the better defensive coaches
Speaker 1: in college football. Kyle winning him at Utah and just
Speaker 1: really raved about him. I was out there for his
Speaker 1: pro day with that, and then Corey actually went back
Speaker 1: out and did a private workout with him. So you're
Speaker 1: down to seven picks, now, do you want to try
Speaker 1: to get another one day? Yeah, I mean, philosophically, you
Speaker 1: always want to get picks back, but I think you
Speaker 1: don't want to sacrifice if there's someone that you want,
Speaker 1: So you really just got to look how the what's
Speaker 1: left on the board, and then you know, hey, we
Speaker 1: got a shot at getting him. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: couples that we sweated out. You know, Eric is a
Speaker 1: guy we would sweat it out. Wea is he's still
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Is he's still gonna be there. He's
Speaker 1: still gonna be there. So you really just see how
Speaker 1: it expresses itself and what what's gone off the board.
Speaker 1: You know, philosophical you always want more picks, but you're
Speaker 1: not just going to say, hey, we're taking picks for
Speaker 1: the sake of taking picks. If there's someone you really want,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna take them. A couple of years
Speaker 1: guys you brought into I'm valuable with them to you
Speaker 1: as far as ef what you thought these guys were
Speaker 1: just I think they're really valuable. I think anytime you
Speaker 1: get an exposure, um, you get a better idea of
Speaker 1: what they're all about. You know. And I know some
Speaker 1: people and I had mentioned that, you know, use them
Speaker 1: as smoke screens or things like that. I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. We're not into that. I want to find
Speaker 1: out as much as we possibly can about each individual
Speaker 1: prospect so that when we're really involved in kind of
Speaker 1: looking at him, is that we're making accurate decisions as
Speaker 1: is our kind of mantra is that we don't care
Speaker 1: who we don't get. We care very much who we
Speaker 1: do get, you know, so everybody's always, oh, we should
Speaker 1: have had that guy, We should have had that guy.
Speaker 1: We better really know about the guy we get, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's where we're trying to dig deeper and work
Speaker 1: even harder at knowing everything about those guys and trying
Speaker 1: to get out as many times. If if we don't
Speaker 1: bring him in here for a top thirty, then we're
Speaker 1: certainly going to see them at their place, and um,
Speaker 1: just visiting with them. I think their scouts, you know,
Speaker 1: really did a really good job in terms of getting
Speaker 1: all the background information because the tape is to tape,
Speaker 1: you know, I think anybody can look at the tape,
Speaker 1: but then you have to dig and really figure out
Speaker 1: how do they fit in terms of what we're trying
Speaker 1: to build here, And um, you know, Eric is a
Speaker 1: lot like Nelson. You'll get a chance to meet him
Speaker 1: tomorrow and you can just kind of see what he's
Speaker 1: like as a person and his character and all those
Speaker 1: other things. And uh, that's centrical and what we're doing.
Speaker 1: But the only way you're gonna do that is you
Speaker 1: have to go find out, you know, whether you're bringing
Speaker 1: them in here or you're getting on getting on a
Speaker 1: plane and going to see them at their place. So
Speaker 1: I think this makes no I mean, I never saw
Speaker 1: it this one, you know. I mean I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna write anything you want, so I
Speaker 1: don't care. PAC twelve. Utah's close to Oregon geographically. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's vowels in the names or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think they're all good football parts and that's
Speaker 1: why we selected them. So we don't specifically look at
Speaker 1: one side or another side. We just there's also a
Speaker 1: really good football There's a lot of Pactol players that
Speaker 1: were selected last night that we didn't take. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Washington had three in the first round. Oregon
Speaker 1: had two guys taken in the first round last night.
Speaker 1: Then we didn't take them. Actually, so yeah, we haven't
Speaker 1: taken Jake Fisher, you know. Yeah, all right, guys, thanks
Speaker 1: so PAC twelve fever, you gotta laugh about it. Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly announcing and explaining the move Eagles trading two fifth
Speaker 1: round draft picks to move from fifty two to forty
Speaker 1: seven in round two. They get back a sixth round
Speaker 1: pick from the Miami Dolphins and select the name that
Speaker 1: we talked about at the top of our evening, Eric Rowe,
Speaker 1: the cornerback safety position to be to Terman from the
Speaker 1: University of Utah. Did I Did I hear him right
Speaker 1: where he said at the end kidding about the fact
Speaker 1: that they didn't select an Oregon player. He said, we
Speaker 1: haven't taken Jake Fisher, yes yet, right right? So that
Speaker 1: would that would cap We'll find out in about an
Speaker 1: hour and a half in round three off the Eagles
Speaker 1: go in that direction. We are going to take a
Speaker 1: little break here. Eagles Draft Central presented by Deetson Watson,
Speaker 1: Dave Spidero with Meryl Reese. Where we've got a long
Speaker 1: way to go. We want some analysis of, really in
Speaker 1: depth on how Eric Rowe fits in to the Eagles
Speaker 1: defense from a scheme standpoint, and we are also going
Speaker 1: to speak with Eric Rowe coming up when we return
Speaker 1: to Eagles Draft Central presented by Deetson Watson. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Novacare Complex. Eagles Draft Central presented by Deetson Watson,
Speaker 1: Dave Spidero, Eagles Insider with the Voice of the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles Merril Reese and after a day of relative calm
Speaker 1: on Thursday, well, Friday has been a second round of
Speaker 1: Neill giving it to the action as we take a
Speaker 1: look at round two of this twenty fifteen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: to date, the Giants starting things off where they trade
Speaker 1: up to the top of round number two, Merrill selecting
Speaker 1: Alabama's safety, Landing Collins, and then the Devin Smith went right.
Speaker 1: Any comment on Landing Collins, Well, Landon Collins was a
Speaker 1: great safety, I mean a great safety for Alabama and
Speaker 1: in the box and the box safety who did not
Speaker 1: fit here and the guy that you really liked, and
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the air off the air,
Speaker 1: Durrell Green, Doria what's his name, first name, Darriereen Beckham,
Speaker 1: the six foot five and change wide receiver troubled off
Speaker 1: the field and you think that's a great pick by Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I think it's a risky pick. But he's a talented player.
Speaker 1: Duryo Green Beckham to me, is a clone. He is
Speaker 1: very similar to Dez Bryant, and like Dez Bryant, he
Speaker 1: comes with baggage. He comes with a very troubled past.
Speaker 1: But Tennessee feels that he can be a game breaker.
Speaker 1: He could be the perfect compliment to getting Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: And then you see the Eagles making that move to
Speaker 1: forty seven, selecting Eric Rowe, a cornerback who played three
Speaker 1: years of safety before moving to the corner at the
Speaker 1: University of Utah. And we still have a few picks
Speaker 1: to go here in round number two. Day one. Thing
Speaker 1: about Eric Row. You might remember it seems like hours
Speaker 1: ago when I asked Tony Pauline, if the Eagles stay
Speaker 1: at the fifty second pick, will Eric Row be available?
Speaker 1: And he said no, yeah, And he also thought it
Speaker 1: would be an exorbitant price. Not exorbitant, but a very
Speaker 1: stiff price to move up. As it turns out, the
Speaker 1: Eagles giving up a fifth round pick, two fifth round picks,
Speaker 1: getting back his sixth round picks. So it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to be too costly on the surface for the Eagles
Speaker 1: to go up and get a guy that ship. Kelly
Speaker 1: said they really really wanted. You know, it's funny you
Speaker 1: always hear on the talk shows, and you hear it
Speaker 1: a week after the season. Then two weeks after the season.
Speaker 1: Are the Eagles better today than they were at the
Speaker 1: end of the last season. I really think at this point,
Speaker 1: even though it's it's still incomplete, I think you can
Speaker 1: make a case for saying that the Eagles defensively are
Speaker 1: better today that they were at the end of last season.
Speaker 1: We shall see as it develops and the Eagles get
Speaker 1: on a football field. In the fan cave, we've got
Speaker 1: Bo Wolf and Greg co Sell and the big question is, guys,
Speaker 1: how does Eric Rowe fit into what Bill Davis does,
Speaker 1: either as a cornerback or a safety and what's his
Speaker 1: ideal position? Well, I guess we'll find out come next
Speaker 1: week when the Eagles have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: mini camp and we'll take a look at what Eric
Speaker 1: row will bring to this defense if he is a
Speaker 1: corner in a little bit in the film room. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about the player first. Greg, I love this pick.
Speaker 1: We talked about Rowe as a possibility in the first
Speaker 1: round four the Eagles. He checks all those boxes, the size,
Speaker 1: the speed. A four year starter, three years as a
Speaker 1: starter at safety before moving to the outside of corner
Speaker 1: started as a true freshman in the Pac twelve tells
Speaker 1: you the kind of experience that he has gotten only
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. He sort of has an understanding
Speaker 1: of route concepts. I think because of that safety experience,
Speaker 1: I think he really checks all the boxes for this
Speaker 1: Eagles team. Yeah, Soto, as you said, forty five career starts.
Speaker 1: He's played corner this year and he's a press man
Speaker 1: corner and that's exactly what the Eagles want. That's where
Speaker 1: I think you start with Eric Row. That was the
Speaker 1: last position he played at Utah, and I think he's
Speaker 1: really comfortable as a press man corner. What I noticed
Speaker 1: watching the tape is how smooth he was. Now. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't call him sudden and twitchy, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: a second round pick and not a high first round pick.
Speaker 1: But I think when he plays press man, he gets
Speaker 1: on the inside hip of receivers running routes. He's very
Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. He probably needs to locate the ball
Speaker 1: a little better, but that will come with coaching. But
Speaker 1: I think that you line him up at corner now.
Speaker 1: The thing that he does give you is if you're
Speaker 1: playing New England, Okay, if you're playing Dallas with Jason Witten,
Speaker 1: if you're playing Carolina as they're playing this year with
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, he gives you the ability with his size
Speaker 1: to match up man to man to a Gronkowski to
Speaker 1: a Greg Olson on Carolina, as I said to a
Speaker 1: Jason Witten. So he gives you versatility for a defense
Speaker 1: that plays a lot of man to man coverage. But
Speaker 1: you start Eric Row outside opposite Byron Maxwell, as Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly said, ran a four or four or five at
Speaker 1: the combine really blew up the combine among the defensive backs.
Speaker 1: How about physicality? Was Is he a willing tackle? Yes
Speaker 1: he is. And I made a point when I was
Speaker 1: taking my notes watching Eric Row that he clearly embraced
Speaker 1: the physical part of the game. And he's played strong safety,
Speaker 1: so he's played in the box. He's played free safety,
Speaker 1: he's played single high, so he has the kind of
Speaker 1: range to be able to run. So I think, as
Speaker 1: you said to start this conversation, he pretty much checks
Speaker 1: all the boxes that you're looking for. But in this league,
Speaker 1: in a defense like the Eagles that is predominant press man,
Speaker 1: that's the more important position than safety, you line him
Speaker 1: up at press man corner. All right, So, as you
Speaker 1: can tell, we are very happy over here in the fancave. Guys,
Speaker 1: back to you in the exfinity of studio in the
Speaker 1: Exfinity studio. We're on our way now to the film room. Well,
Speaker 1: very good, Thanks very much. We are kind of in
Speaker 1: agreement with you there. Great athlete, great fit, and somebody
Speaker 1: that we've talked about here. And I find it interesting, Mary,
Speaker 1: let's take a little step back and talk about the
Speaker 1: first two picks we came into this draft. Identifying wide receiver,
Speaker 1: defensive back, and offensive line. Eagles have gone right out
Speaker 1: in a time when there's no secrets, there's no secrets
Speaker 1: being identifying needs. Eagles go out and bang wide receiver,
Speaker 1: bang defensive back, and it makes you think that yes,
Speaker 1: round three will be an offensive line. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's a very intelligent way to draft. I've heard coaches
Speaker 1: and personnel people for years say you take the best
Speaker 1: athlete available, But then I always add, it's got to
Speaker 1: be if you have great athletes available, you don't stretch
Speaker 1: for somebody, but if you have one available in a
Speaker 1: position of need, that's what you have to do. And
Speaker 1: these were positions of in two cases I think dire need. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting now that when I look at
Speaker 1: the Eagles secondary signing Byron Maxwell, who will be a starter,
Speaker 1: signing Walter Thurmond, who you think is going to get
Speaker 1: a look at the slot cornerback position, competing with Brandon Boykin,
Speaker 1: who's been a rumored to be one of those players
Speaker 1: available at the right price. Then you've got d J. Biggers,
Speaker 1: who comes into journeyman veteran Jalen Watkins to me, is
Speaker 1: kind of a wild card here. Does he get a
Speaker 1: look at safety? Is he a cornerback? Same kind of
Speaker 1: thing with Row. You've got two players, two young, talented
Speaker 1: players who have that versatility to play both. You want
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not jack of all trades,
Speaker 1: masters of none. You want to make sure that they're
Speaker 1: good enough either at cornerback or at safety to make
Speaker 1: an impact. Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised at all
Speaker 1: to see Nolan Carroll starting at the other cornerbacks across
Speaker 1: from Byron Maxwell, which leads me I will be surprised.
Speaker 1: I think Nolan Carroll can play. I think Nolan Carroll
Speaker 1: is really good in a as that quasi linebacker in
Speaker 1: the dime, that's where that's where I think his role
Speaker 1: is absolutely perfect. But I haven't seen him on the
Speaker 1: corner that much. Okay, but I think there are some
Speaker 1: real possibilities. Now it's safety. You mentioned Jaylen Watkins, and
Speaker 1: of course it wouldn't shock me to see Eric Rowe
Speaker 1: compete as a safety because, as you said, he has
Speaker 1: a lot of experience there, he has the size, he
Speaker 1: has the skill set to be a successful safety in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, it's interesting. We've been on Eric row
Speaker 1: for quite some time and when we send our crew
Speaker 1: down to Mobile, Alabama and the Senior Bowl, bow Wolf
Speaker 1: caught up with one Eric Rowe. Well, we're here with
Speaker 1: Utah defensive back Eric Rowe, and I guess the question
Speaker 1: for you, Eric, is cornerback or safety? What's it gonna be?
Speaker 1: I prefer cornerback, but atas my personal opinion, but you know,
Speaker 1: wherever the coach needs me, you know, just like every
Speaker 1: guy you know, I'll play it. Are What are the
Speaker 1: differences for you? Obviously you know where you line up
Speaker 1: and stuff, But in terms of skill set, you feel
Speaker 1: like you can do both? Oh yeah, especially I have
Speaker 1: a whole you know, college see them about, especially in
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. But I spread out in there's a
Speaker 1: lot of great receivers and impact to it. There's some
Speaker 1: of them are here today and so you know, guarding them.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I had that under my belt,
Speaker 1: and then obviously three years at safety. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I can roam the field or just play man. So
Speaker 1: it's you know, just like whatever. What was the transition
Speaker 1: like for you this season going from from safety to cornerback?
Speaker 1: It was tough just from being seeing the whole whole
Speaker 1: whole offense, from you know, the center the field to
Speaker 1: just cutting it down to half and then really corner
Speaker 1: just focusing on We play a lot of man, so
Speaker 1: I'm just focused on my man and my technique rather
Speaker 1: than at safety focused on the checks and calls I
Speaker 1: have to make. So, I mean it was a big
Speaker 1: difference mentally. I think you're getting a little more time
Speaker 1: at safety here so far this week. But as you
Speaker 1: talked to teams, what do they tell you about how
Speaker 1: they see you. I think they just asked me what
Speaker 1: would I prefer, and I would say corner, and they
Speaker 1: would now their head, like, I guess that's that's the
Speaker 1: what they preferred to. Uh, you know, I think I
Speaker 1: should be playing from corner tomorrow. But you know, right
Speaker 1: how they had me at safety, something just kind of
Speaker 1: ball out of safety. Obviously one of the intriguing things
Speaker 1: about you on the outside is your size. How do
Speaker 1: you think that helps you as a cornerback, especially with
Speaker 1: the receivers nowadays, to being really tall and long, and
Speaker 1: I mean that combination with speed, I feel like I
Speaker 1: can match up physically. And then with my physical play,
Speaker 1: I love to play aggressive. I feel like I can
Speaker 1: bring that to the corner position as a as a cornerback.
Speaker 1: What would you say is the scattering report on you?
Speaker 1: What would you tell fans have never seen me before?
Speaker 1: What do you do well? What do you need to
Speaker 1: work on for fans have never seen me? Very physical?
Speaker 1: I can come on a round support. I love to hit,
Speaker 1: especially the big hits. I look for those many things
Speaker 1: I knew. What do well? Just really just focus on
Speaker 1: my eyes, catching the ball, catching the ball in my
Speaker 1: eyes because I tend to look away when I'm about
Speaker 1: to catch it, and maybe play like a little off
Speaker 1: coverage as you as you you know, dream at night
Speaker 1: about making a big play. Is it is it a
Speaker 1: pick six or is it laying a big hit? It's
Speaker 1: a pick six. It's a pick six, you know, snatching
Speaker 1: the ball out there and just running down the sideline,
Speaker 1: just having to seeing the crowd just go wowd it
Speaker 1: reread the home game? Is there a corner or safety
Speaker 1: in the league who you'll sort of look up to
Speaker 1: as a player you hope to emulate Cam Chance. I
Speaker 1: like the way he hits, really aggressive and had a
Speaker 1: lot of emotions, so I look up to him. All right.
Speaker 1: Last question, we'd like to ask everybody who's the best
Speaker 1: player you played this season? Nelson Aguilar from USC Very quick,
Speaker 1: very explosive prior to quick as I've seen. All right, Well, Eric,
Speaker 1: BESSI of luck and maybe'll see in Phildelphia one day.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks man. And isn't that interesting? It was
Speaker 1: a game October twenty fifth, twenty four, twenty one win
Speaker 1: Utah over USC and Nelson had ten catches. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: he's special. You know what we are finding today already
Speaker 1: that the two guys that Chip Kelly drafted are very
Speaker 1: very intelligent, very well spoken, very poised, and very mature.
Speaker 1: Eric Row a member of the National Honor Society in
Speaker 1: high school. He had five tackles in that you were
Speaker 1: I was not in that. We take your phone calls
Speaker 1: on the other side, give us a buzz two one, five, three, three,
Speaker 1: nine six seven zero nine what's your reaction? Eagles have
Speaker 1: made two selections, one on offense and one on defense.
Speaker 1: How you feeling about this twenty fifteen NFL Draft. We
Speaker 1: will hear from you on the other side as Eagles
Speaker 1: Draft Central, presented by Dayton Watson, returns in just one moment.
Speaker 1: We welcome you back Eagles Draft Central here on Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles dot Com. Dave Spidero, Merrill Reese in case you
Speaker 1: are just joining us. The Eagles making their second selection
Speaker 1: over this twenty fifteen draft, engineering a trade with the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, sending the fifty second pick overall in two
Speaker 1: fifth round picks to the Dolphins in exchange for the
Speaker 1: forty seventh pick in round number two and a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick, and selecting Utah defensive back Eric Row. What's
Speaker 1: your reaction? Two one five, three, three nine six seven nine.
Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call. Let's go down to tamp
Speaker 1: and talk to Henry Henry. Good evening, sir, Kay are
Speaker 1: you not here Henry? So we will not have Henry
Speaker 1: Henry give us a call back. Two three nine, six
Speaker 1: seven zero nine. We had a chance to catch up
Speaker 1: with Eric Row at the combine and as every player
Speaker 1: at the press conference, meets the media, answers the hard questions.
Speaker 1: You'll be impressed. Eric Row from the Combine in Indianapolis. No,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Just whatever the team needs. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they need like within their scheme wise, but
Speaker 1: they need me a safety. I'm there. Do you get
Speaker 1: to know where we all much has come back? Uh?
Speaker 1: He does come back and Uh he's talked to us
Speaker 1: as a team a couple of times. So I heard
Speaker 1: a couple of his speeches. What is the guy like
Speaker 1: Hamilt's success? Was it mean for guys like you a position?
Speaker 1: It means that they developed a good safety at our school. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's really intelligent. Yeah, I mean I can hear it
Speaker 1: when he talks. I'm sure he's football savvy. That's just
Speaker 1: a credit to Utah. Mike Mapple Cindy thought you were
Speaker 1: a good fit for the Ravens. Have you had a
Speaker 1: formal with him or is it coming out of them?
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a formal within. No, I do,
Speaker 1: Actually I do. So it's coming up tomorrow. It's a
Speaker 1: team that you like, have any feeling for it all?
Speaker 1: As far as would that be a good fit for you,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I've really thought of that.
Speaker 1: You're classified as you go from the corner and as safety.
Speaker 1: Indus draft to talk to senior both first practice they
Speaker 1: had to practice some of the safety. Can you talk
Speaker 1: about how being able to play both positions, how that
Speaker 1: makes you a more valuable asset than some of the
Speaker 1: other they guys just just being as I don't know
Speaker 1: to say, from on the roster and a corner goes down,
Speaker 1: I'm at safety. I mean they can always move me
Speaker 1: down there to fill in that position, or you know,
Speaker 1: vice versa. So I feel like I have that added
Speaker 1: value of I could play both spots at any given time.
Speaker 1: And you played both the Utah you said corners and preference.
Speaker 1: Why do you prefer the corner position? I feel like
Speaker 1: I have more success at corner, just playmaking wise, and
Speaker 1: I love the challenge of it. Going one on one
Speaker 1: of the receivers, Keith and Guild, a guy who came
Speaker 1: out last year. He was another one. Something said safety,
Speaker 1: Something said, corner. Have you gotten to talk to him?
Speaker 1: And I talked him right now? And then I think
Speaker 1: the last time I talked to him was like in December.
Speaker 1: He asked me how I was doing and what bowl
Speaker 1: game we're going to and all that. So you pretty
Speaker 1: much said corners your preference. I made a pretty much
Speaker 1: leaving it open and kind of get in where you
Speaker 1: feel in. Yeah, corning my preference. But it's still all right.
Speaker 1: If I get picked up by a team, they need
Speaker 1: to say, you know, man, I'm at safety, then from
Speaker 1: a corner. I mean they need a corner. Then I
Speaker 1: have a corner mindset, so I can just switch it
Speaker 1: either way. I know you played at USAW before my time.
Speaker 1: I was early in high school, and I know that
Speaker 1: he's another long corner that came out. I played for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, now for the Chiefs. How did you big
Speaker 1: guy guys play the position? Just through So the past
Speaker 1: season I played a couple in I had played a
Speaker 1: couple of nickel, I mean playing inside. If we went
Speaker 1: four three and they saw I had like potential just
Speaker 1: the way I moved my feet and flipped my hips,
Speaker 1: and so when Keith got drafted and they wanted to
Speaker 1: replicate that, so they moved there in the springtime. Fool
Speaker 1: about that. And it's a nice challenge, for sure. I
Speaker 1: can't you gonna get burned appreciate the challenge. I don't
Speaker 1: know just really the competition of you know, just actually
Speaker 1: going out there and like just seeing a whole another view, uh,
Speaker 1: the way the game is played from seeing the whole
Speaker 1: field and just one half of it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it was tough though, but just the challenge of
Speaker 1: changing my whole perception of the game. Is their point
Speaker 1: where you would love their game when you will you
Speaker 1: didn't do this? Uh really during fall camp going against
Speaker 1: dress a lot, I mean who I got beat several
Speaker 1: times by him. But after like towards the end, I
Speaker 1: started getting a lot better at it. And then when
Speaker 1: it came to season, you know, once it really clicked
Speaker 1: in my head like I can do it, you know,
Speaker 1: I started playing out. I just prefer corner of a
Speaker 1: safety just because I feel like it's more of a challenge,
Speaker 1: uh going out on the island and covering the manament
Speaker 1: or even a zone. Uh, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: more of a challenge, and I just love challenges. I mean,
Speaker 1: just this past season, I've been playing corner all the
Speaker 1: way up, starting that corner every game until USC that
Speaker 1: week flipped right back to safety. Had switched my home mindset,
Speaker 1: give checks and calls, played safety that first half of
Speaker 1: that game second half went back to corner. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can just change mindset's pretty fast, I do. I
Speaker 1: watched them on YouTube at hit one on once. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to get over when you're giving up a big
Speaker 1: play when you were allowed, it's pretty Uh, it's pretty tough.
Speaker 1: But I learned that if you don't get over, they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep attacking you. So you want to get to
Speaker 1: dig yourself a hole. I learned that about the second
Speaker 1: game of my season in corner. I gotta tacked a
Speaker 1: couple of times and they kept coming at me. Soon
Speaker 1: the next game, I realized, all right, if I get beat,
Speaker 1: got shake it off. But they're gonna keep coming. What's
Speaker 1: the trip to shaking golf build care so much about winning.
Speaker 1: People fix plays. It's hard. Hard to get up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, but I don't know. I found
Speaker 1: a way to just milly all right. It's over, like
Speaker 1: making another like making go to next play. So often
Speaker 1: a corner safety thing is about speed. They all, you know, teams,
Speaker 1: if they think you're in corner for it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a safety. You don't have enough because that's when you're
Speaker 1: looking to prove here the speed. Yeah, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know how to think
Speaker 1: I'm slow. I don't know what shows it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no point in talking about it's gotta go out
Speaker 1: there improve it. I say, like in the fourth for us,
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Oh what is your six foot
Speaker 1: and two or five? Does it mean anything that corners
Speaker 1: get aid more than shakey? Actually, I reallyn't know that.
Speaker 1: I really didn't know that, So I don't know you
Speaker 1: know how to answer that? Outside? Uh, when I press
Speaker 1: getting a hand on quick because I got longer arms,
Speaker 1: I can reach out there to him faster, stopping inside rabs, slants,
Speaker 1: and then just with down the field speed, I feel
Speaker 1: like I can open up and open up and stride
Speaker 1: with the receiver. So I mean I feel like I
Speaker 1: had those to my advantage scheme. WI feels a fit
Speaker 1: for you one more than another town pressman team press
Speaker 1: man team, just because you talk that was basically our
Speaker 1: defense a lot of press man, So it is something
Speaker 1: I'm used to. You were all district basketball player high school? Yeah,
Speaker 1: small forward? Were you jam and which mean jamming? Tell
Speaker 1: me about that little game you're trying to work out?
Speaker 1: The schedules fun about the little cat into the hand.
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty fun. Like once I get a
Speaker 1: hand to the chest, I mean, it just feels good.
Speaker 1: It hit a ride on target and Washington go back
Speaker 1: a little bit after that, it's basically over. Uh. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a couple of times. I mean I want
Speaker 1: to give a couple of good receivers that that that
Speaker 1: know how to use their hands too. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of like going back and forth. And that's Eric Row
Speaker 1: from the Combine his press conference in Indianapolis. Very well spoken,
Speaker 1: poised again, very much as we talked about like Nelson alcohol,
Speaker 1: You're right, once upon a time, the Eagles draft and
Speaker 1: another Eagle, another Eric for the secondary. His name was
Speaker 1: Eric Allen Right, and he came out of Arozota State
Speaker 1: and had a great, great Eagles career. Let's hope. I
Speaker 1: was just looking at the notes from the media packet
Speaker 1: and the last time the Eagles had the twentieth pick
Speaker 1: in the draft, they selected Mike Quick in nineteen trying
Speaker 1: to it's good karma. Yeah, let's go over to the
Speaker 1: fan cave as bow Wolf and Greg Cosell have a
Speaker 1: film breakdown of Eagles quarterback safety Eric row all Right
Speaker 1: let's take a look now, Greg at some of the
Speaker 1: things that Eric Row will be asked to do in
Speaker 1: this Eagles defense. And for the Eagles, press man very
Speaker 1: very common, and when when it comes to that, disruption
Speaker 1: is the name of the game. Let's talk about a
Speaker 1: play here. We've got Bradley Fletcher up against Jason Avant
Speaker 1: at the bottom, and you will see what that disruption
Speaker 1: can lead to. Yeah, and the Eagles bow like to
Speaker 1: play a lot of what we call man free coverage,
Speaker 1: man to man across the board with a single high safety,
Speaker 1: and they put their corners in press position. And when
Speaker 1: you play press, it's all around, all about disrupting the
Speaker 1: timing of the route and then the throw. Here's a
Speaker 1: perfect example. As you let it go, you're going to
Speaker 1: see here really tight press man coverage. Here, Fletcher gets
Speaker 1: its hands on Jason Navan right there, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Evan's not at the depth that the quarterback expected.
Speaker 1: They disrupted the timing of the route concept and you
Speaker 1: see what happens. Timing obviously, it's such an important part
Speaker 1: of the passing game. So Cam Newton expecting Jason Van
Speaker 1: to be ten yards deep, He's only eight yards deep.
Speaker 1: Bradley Fletcher gets the pick six. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on now two the Packers, and we've got Carry Williams
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the screen. Another timing play here,
Speaker 1: more disruption pressing at the line. Yeah, right down here
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the screen. You're going to see that.
Speaker 1: And this is going to be a blitz and it's
Speaker 1: going to be that man free concept again, which is
Speaker 1: very prevalent for the Eagles. And you'll see right now,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers takes the snap. He looks to that route
Speaker 1: that Carry Williams is covering. It's a quick slant, but
Speaker 1: it's disrupted. Rodgers did not feel comfortable taking a snap.
Speaker 1: He saw the disruption. He turned and threw it away
Speaker 1: because the pressure was in his face and he had
Speaker 1: nowhere else to go. But it all started with the
Speaker 1: press man coverage, the physical press man coverage. That's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: Let's move on down to Jacksonville Kerry Williams again, this
Speaker 1: time at the top of the screen. You'll see the
Speaker 1: disruption this time on a screen. This is really interesting
Speaker 1: as we look up here because this is a bubble screen,
Speaker 1: which is becoming very prevalent also in the NFL and
Speaker 1: again you see a single high safety, so you see
Speaker 1: the press man coverage. And this is a great, great
Speaker 1: play because rarely do you see these kinds of plays
Speaker 1: disrupted by corners. The ball is almost always caught, but
Speaker 1: he does such a good job playing tight press man
Speaker 1: that the block can't get to him, so therefore he's
Speaker 1: able to break up the throw. That is really good.
Speaker 1: So when you hear that the Eagles want players with
Speaker 1: length and be able to press, what does the length
Speaker 1: help with. Well, the length help just being able to
Speaker 1: get your hands on the guy, while the length helps
Speaker 1: in a variety of areas because usually taller players have
Speaker 1: longer arms number one and number two. It allows them
Speaker 1: as you get plays down the field, which we're going
Speaker 1: to see right here. By the way, this is a
Speaker 1: great example because if you're longer, if you have more
Speaker 1: length to your body, you're able to break up passes
Speaker 1: better than someone who's two or three inches shorter. And
Speaker 1: here we're going to see a great example at the
Speaker 1: top of the screen. And if you let this run
Speaker 1: as we clear it, you're going to see that this
Speaker 1: becomes true man coverage with absolutely no help and the
Speaker 1: nature of the play if you freeze it right here.
Speaker 1: Look what you get this is man. There's no safety.
Speaker 1: The safety has moved to the other side of the
Speaker 1: field because of the nature of this play action actually
Speaker 1: run action. Look, so this is what we almost call
Speaker 1: zero man with no safety help. And here you're going
Speaker 1: to see a really good job by the corner. That's
Speaker 1: Carry Williams staying with Dez Bryant. So the Eagles ask
Speaker 1: their corners to play this way pretty consistently. That is
Speaker 1: the number one mandate in order to play corner for
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles is you must be able to effectively
Speaker 1: execute press man cover and in a division with Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant Odell Beckham to Sean Jackson. You can see why
Speaker 1: the Eagles would make the move to trade up to
Speaker 1: get some help in the second. One more point, there's
Speaker 1: two kinds of press man. This physical press man, as
Speaker 1: you indicated, where you put your hands on the receiver,
Speaker 1: and there's what we call mirror or shadow press man,
Speaker 1: where you sort of let the receiver declare his route
Speaker 1: and then you react to that. Eric Row is very
Speaker 1: very good at that. So obviously we're speculating just a
Speaker 1: little bit that Eric Row will go to the outside
Speaker 1: for this Eagles team. Possible he'll start at safety, but
Speaker 1: if he is a cornerback, he will be asked to
Speaker 1: do those press man things for this Eagles defense. Back
Speaker 1: to you guys now in the Exfinity studio, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much from the Fancave. Let's take a phone call here,
Speaker 1: go to Mecca, to New Mexico and talk to James,
Speaker 1: who joins us on Eagles Draft Central, presented by Dietson Watson. James,
Speaker 1: Hello there, how you doing good? I like to think
Speaker 1: I do, but I was wondering what all the fans
Speaker 1: think if the heat starts over Earl Wolf. If the
Speaker 1: case is, if he is at safety, Wolf is coming
Speaker 1: off a Thanks very much for the call. Earl Wolf
Speaker 1: is coming off a knee surgery, microfracture surgery. I think
Speaker 1: that for Earl it's really difficult to come back from
Speaker 1: that from that injury. He's had some problems physically. I
Speaker 1: guess the way I look at safety, and I do
Speaker 1: think there's a possibility that Rowe plays a safety position.
Speaker 1: Is it Biggers? Is it Watson ed Reynolds from Stanford
Speaker 1: last year? Does he kind of jump up here in
Speaker 1: year number two? I think it's a very wide open
Speaker 1: picture next to Malcolm Jenkins. Yeah, I would agree with you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't quite write Earl Wolf out. Remember as a
Speaker 1: rookie he had some very very promising appearances and then
Speaker 1: he was beset by a bunch of injuries. But he
Speaker 1: knows going into this training camp that his job is
Speaker 1: very much on the line. So it will be up
Speaker 1: to the former North Carolina State star to put forth
Speaker 1: a really good effort and not only make this team,
Speaker 1: but try to win a starting spot. So that is
Speaker 1: the coverage. Cheers. He would take a look at the
Speaker 1: safety situation for the Eagles. Reynolds, Pasinski and Marigos primarily
Speaker 1: are special teams players. We think Jalen Watkins will get
Speaker 1: looks there and possibly E. J. Biggers as well. And
Speaker 1: the most recent Eagle here that is Eric Row from
Speaker 1: the University of Uta and certainly an impressive first two
Speaker 1: picks for the Eagles. We take a break here Eagles
Speaker 1: Draft Central Dave Spidero, Merrill Reese and we'll be back
Speaker 1: in just one moment. Welcome back to Eagles Draft Central,
Speaker 1: presented by Diets and Watson, Dave Spidero, Merrill Reese. We
Speaker 1: now bring in Tony Pauline, one of our draft insiders
Speaker 1: from Draft Insiders dot Net up in New York City.
Speaker 1: Your reaction, Tony to what the Eagles didn't round number two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that a lot of us thought
Speaker 1: they were going to take in round number one, Eric Row.
Speaker 1: So you know, in a lot of ways, they've got
Speaker 1: first round value midway through the second round. That's the bigger,
Speaker 1: more physical, little corner that they want. You've heard coach
Speaker 1: Kelly talk a couple of times about how he likes
Speaker 1: more players. Rose got terrific football intelligence. He's very coachable,
Speaker 1: guy who's got a high upside. Maybe some bumps in
Speaker 1: the road along the way, but someone I think, you know,
Speaker 1: you can start off the nickel packages and can really
Speaker 1: develop into a starting cornerback, even play some safety. Is
Speaker 1: there a better position for him, Tony? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: great to a versatility, but sometimes you have players who
Speaker 1: you say can play both positions and they're really not
Speaker 1: outstanding in one of those positions. Is he outstanding in one,
Speaker 1: in both or neither? No, I'd say he's a better
Speaker 1: cornerback than he is a safety. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and tell you he's an outstanding cornerback. If he
Speaker 1: was an outstanding cornerback, he would have been selected in
Speaker 1: the first round. But he's a good cornerback. He's got
Speaker 1: a high upside. He could also play safety, even special
Speaker 1: teams if you need. Tony, if he did play safety,
Speaker 1: what kind of a tackler is he? I know, we
Speaker 1: know that they want them to be a press cover guy,
Speaker 1: but also we've seen too many safeties who don't tackle well.
Speaker 1: He does. He'll lay it on the line. He'll come up,
Speaker 1: wrap up, square into the ball handlers, and drew out
Speaker 1: through tackles. He's not going to shy away from contact.
Speaker 1: He's not one of those guys. So, Tony, how would
Speaker 1: you assess what the Eagles have done here? With Nelson
Speaker 1: Agilar in round number one and then taking into account
Speaker 1: to trade giving up two fifth round picks, getting back
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick, and taking Eric Row. How do
Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles through two picks? Yeah, combined,
Speaker 1: you gotta like it. I was not that high on
Speaker 1: the agal Or pick because I didn't feel he was
Speaker 1: a mid first round choice, But when you look at
Speaker 1: both of them together, basically what they did was they
Speaker 1: got two players of first round talents and gave up
Speaker 1: a couple of fifth round picks Farms. But I think
Speaker 1: all Groldy did very well and Tony. We are looking
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead here to pick number eighty four
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, and we're thinking offensive line. What does
Speaker 1: the group look like offensive line wise, particularly interior offensive
Speaker 1: line in the third round. In the third round, you
Speaker 1: know that there's still some good guys on the board.
Speaker 1: I mean A J. Cannon, South Carolina has slid down,
Speaker 1: Ali marpt of Hobart's still there. If he's available in
Speaker 1: the third round, I think that'd be a terrific pick. Really,
Speaker 1: a Chip Kelly type of lineman, Trey Jackson a Florida
Speaker 1: States still available, So you know they may get lucky
Speaker 1: like they did with Eric Row in the second round
Speaker 1: and be able to get a highly rated Garden round three.
Speaker 1: Would anybody take a chance on like Oh Columns at
Speaker 1: this point, No, I doubt it. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: go undrafted. I know that the reports are out there
Speaker 1: that if he's not selected by tonight, neither the second
Speaker 1: or third round, he's gonna opt for the twenty sixteen draft.
Speaker 1: I just don't see a team taking a chance you know,
Speaker 1: there's too much risk, there's too much unknown. You know,
Speaker 1: if you take him and somehow he's implicated, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got a public relations disaster on your hand. There's
Speaker 1: just too much and there's too many other good players there.
Speaker 1: All right, Tony Pauline me, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us here on Eagles Draft Central. Thanks so much, Tony.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you a little later on Merrill, we
Speaker 1: have some other business to take her. By the way,
Speaker 1: Cowboy's taking Randy Gregory in round number two. Time now
Speaker 1: to me the Eagles second round draft pick from the
Speaker 1: University of Utah defensive back Eric Rowe. We welcome him
Speaker 1: in on the phone here at Eagles Draft Central, presented
Speaker 1: by Diets and Watson, Dave Spidero, and the Voice of
Speaker 1: the Eagles, Merrill Reese. Eric, Congratulations, how are you feeling tonight? Oh? Good, excited? Great.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explained. Has it been
Speaker 1: just a whirlwind for you? I mean, not only these
Speaker 1: last couple of nights, but the whole process leading up
Speaker 1: to draft weekend? Yeah, it was. It's been long. How
Speaker 1: do you even know how much it really goes into
Speaker 1: the draft pods? Well, now, you know. Now, I know,
Speaker 1: but man, it's fair. But it's been a whirlwind. Though.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about you as a football player, and I
Speaker 1: know you've answered the question many times cornerback or safety
Speaker 1: or both or it doesn't matter, both doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: mean whatever, help the team out, get it the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on board. Eric. What kind of contact
Speaker 1: have you had with the the Eagles people coach Kelly? Uh?
Speaker 1: Sorry question, I said, what kind of a contact have
Speaker 1: you had with the Eagles? Have you met their people?
Speaker 1: Have you been here? Oh? Yeah, I mean coach I
Speaker 1: kind of afforded like combined Senior Bowl, was kind of
Speaker 1: kind of general talked to the coach, you know, just
Speaker 1: like every other team. And then uh, I went on
Speaker 1: a pro day, so if Kelly came out to the
Speaker 1: pro day to see me, and I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they divided on the team visit.
Speaker 1: And I guess take fell in love with me, Erica.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your football career and and just I
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking all the way from the time you
Speaker 1: first started. When did you when did you really really
Speaker 1: kind of fall in love with the game of football?
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like love with the game, says
Speaker 1: I've been playing stalag seven. I mean so really it was.
Speaker 1: I always loved the game, but you know, just growing
Speaker 1: up playing it, especially in taxes, it was just a
Speaker 1: normal thing to me every day, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: every season, So it wasn't like one year, like, Man,
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean I would love it if
Speaker 1: I was a little Was there a time when you
Speaker 1: like that you can remember that you thought, hey, I
Speaker 1: got a shot to play here in the NFL? Uh
Speaker 1: fast season? Eric. Was there an NFL player, a corner
Speaker 1: or a safety who you looked up to, who was
Speaker 1: almost a hero to you growing up? I saw watched
Speaker 1: the coach a lot, and I saw Bob standings I did,
Speaker 1: and I just love the way he hit. I mean
Speaker 1: he would he would hit so hard he take himself
Speaker 1: out the game. I don't like back in early two thousands.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love watching him. It's really interesting how
Speaker 1: the game has changed, and for a defensive back, you've
Speaker 1: had to change your game with these rules. Um obviously
Speaker 1: making a little safer for plays. Has that been a
Speaker 1: challenge for you to to kind of adapt your game
Speaker 1: along with the way the game itself has evolved? Uh?
Speaker 1: Hitting wise, No, because I was never the one that
Speaker 1: aimed for the helmet. I was aimed for like the
Speaker 1: body side or like the leg, so that that part
Speaker 1: really hasn't changed. M And really I was I was
Speaker 1: when I made a move to corner. I was never
Speaker 1: too gravy at the start anyway. So the pies, I
Speaker 1: think I only had two tis last season. I mean
Speaker 1: other than that, I mean, I was never too grabby,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I I mean the rule change really
Speaker 1: hasn't affected me, like personally the way I played. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know like if I adapted
Speaker 1: or not. Eric from a technique standpoint, you really seem
Speaker 1: to make a very very quick adjustment moving from safety
Speaker 1: to cornerback at Utah was there a lot of them.
Speaker 1: It's just that every defensive back works, uh kind of
Speaker 1: in isolation and works on the technique of single coverage
Speaker 1: and and getting up to the live of strimmage and
Speaker 1: playing press. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that was
Speaker 1: a huge invacis like moving a corner. It was not
Speaker 1: so much schematic wise, I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: to me fairly simple. It was more emphasis on your
Speaker 1: man technique. It was every day so even after practice,
Speaker 1: I work on my you know, my press technique and
Speaker 1: my off technique, just because I know our coording that
Speaker 1: he loved to play a lot of man and like
Speaker 1: the league corners out out by himself. So I mean
Speaker 1: it was a huge emphasis. It was just to tell
Speaker 1: us a little about your your hobbies, your in forst
Speaker 1: what did you major in a Utah? Did you finish
Speaker 1: your college degree? Work? Hobbies? I love playing basketball, I
Speaker 1: mean I grew up I think I think I love
Speaker 1: basketball a little more than football kind of growing up.
Speaker 1: But then uh, kind of when I got to high school,
Speaker 1: it's when I really started loving like loving football like
Speaker 1: kind of more. But I love playing basketball, you know,
Speaker 1: golf when I can, h just kind of outside for
Speaker 1: its just to get away from the games. And But
Speaker 1: as far as school wise, I graduated with a business
Speaker 1: administration degree and twenty fourteen in December. So pretty proud
Speaker 1: about that. Congratulations. That's very difficult to do. Tough for
Speaker 1: you to obviously wasn't. But how difficult was it to
Speaker 1: manage the demands of academia and the demands of a
Speaker 1: very rigorous football schedule. H Man, it was tough because
Speaker 1: I know in the spring and summer of two fourteen,
Speaker 1: that's when I really had to I really had to
Speaker 1: pack it down and really take a lot of classes
Speaker 1: to graduate by the fall. I just saw I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have classes left over in the spring of fifteen. But
Speaker 1: it was it was nice, you know, I'd have class
Speaker 1: at seven thirty in the morning and my last coast
Speaker 1: in at nine am at night, and that trying to
Speaker 1: try trying to work out they up stakes the playbook.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was tough. But we caught up with
Speaker 1: you at the Senior Bowl and our last question to
Speaker 1: you was who was the different, most difficult receiver you
Speaker 1: played against? And you said, Nelson Aguilar, Who is your
Speaker 1: new teammate? Can you give us a scouting report on Nelson?
Speaker 1: I mean, like I told every other scout coach in
Speaker 1: the NFTEL ME, I think first, I think he was
Speaker 1: the best teamer in fact twelve from a standpoint of
Speaker 1: I didn't get the match up with him like man
Speaker 1: to man because I was a safety that game, but
Speaker 1: just trying to tackle him, he was fifty crappy explose
Speaker 1: to like probably mostly supposed to receiver, I you know,
Speaker 1: kind of seeing like personally just the way he plays
Speaker 1: the game, it would just, you know, something different. Well,
Speaker 1: we are so happy to have you here in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: The fans are happy to have you here. The Eagles,
Speaker 1: of course thrilled to have you. Eric Rowe. Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us on Eagles Draft Central. Enjoy your
Speaker 1: evening and get ready to come to Philadelphia and get
Speaker 1: to work. Thank you very much. Eric Rowe, second round
Speaker 1: draft pick for the Philadelphia Eagles. Good guy and he's upscited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're all excited to have him as a Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 1: The Eagles have the eighty fourth pick in this draft.
Speaker 1: That is a third round selection, so when they turn
Speaker 1: in their card, we think at eighty four or could
Speaker 1: be seventy nine or eighty nine or whatever it is.
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