WEBVTT - Lanterns S1E04

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, today's episode contains spoilers for episode four of Lanterns.

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<v Speaker 2>Be warned.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, I am Jason Concepcion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Rosie Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, pop culture,

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<v Speaker 1>three episodes a week.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, we are going to be recapping Lantern's

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<v Speaker 3>episode four, back to that intergalactic murder-solving action.

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<v Speaker 2>And guys, you might have heard, but impending doomsday is mutating.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, season one, episode four of Lanterns. Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at OWA picking up directly from the events

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<v Speaker 1>of the end of episode two. Hal is talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Sinestro about Manhunters, and we get the line from that

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<v Speaker 1>previous ep where Sinestro is like, where he says, well, Manhunters,

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<v Speaker 1>if they exist, would be the second biggest threat after

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart. And Hal is like, where'd you hear about

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Why'd you say that name?

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<v Speaker 1>He's cagey about where he heard the name, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Sinestro still has, whether he still has contacts

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow can reach him there or whether he was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more connected than Hal knew when he was

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<v Speaker 1>out is unclear. But he wants to know, he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>where'd the Guardians find John Stewart, Hal? And Hal's like,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marines. And he's like, ah, that's Earth military. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear why Sinestro thinks that is important, but, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Hal does know, not a dumb man, although he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of plays, he plays the hayseed kind of dumb guy

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<v Speaker 1>very well. He knows that John is not his backup,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's his replacement. We go to earth, um, to

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska where, um, John has been back at the motel

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<v Speaker 1>drawing maps of The Malcolm Rancher. Drawing other things. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets a call from his parents. It's clear that his

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<v Speaker 1>parents are the go-between from the guardians to him. The

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<v Speaker 1>guardians don't contact him directly. They contact the parents and

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<v Speaker 1>then the parents contact him. And dad is frantic saying

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<v Speaker 1>they need to speak with you. You have 20 minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a pay phone. John says he can't

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<v Speaker 1>because he's working on the case. And he just hangs

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<v Speaker 1>up before dad puts mom on the phone. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>knock on Hal's door. I mean, excuse me, John goes

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<v Speaker 1>to knock on Hal's door, but Hal's not there because,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, he's up in space talking to Sinestro.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sinestro, meanwhile, is saying to Hal, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you're going to be able to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this John Stewart is you're going to have to kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hal's like, I'm not going to do that. Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a bad guy. I'm not an evil guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like you. Sinestro then asks, so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Manhunter alive on Earth. That's really a thing. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he gets him to stay, basically. Hal's like,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck you. And then he's like, oh, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Hannibal Lecter-ing you. Very good Hannibal Lecter energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sinestro knows quite a bit about Manhunters. He knows,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, how to use a part of their physiology,

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<v Speaker 1>natural physiology, to identify them after they've taken on a

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<v Speaker 1>different form. And Sinestro then advises Hal that, That here's,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your solution to all your problems at once. Deliver

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhunter to the Guardians. And in the process of

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, engineer Jon Stewart's downfall. Like figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>He then asks, so does Jon talk to the Guardians directly?

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<v Speaker 1>Hal says he doesn't, although Hal doesn't know. Hal probably

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<v Speaker 1>suspects that he does. but he says that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly doesn't know for sure that John is actually

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to the, to the guardians. Although indirectly, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like Sinestro then says, you know, asks a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about John and says, okay, so is he fearless? Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That means he's going to be, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>arrogant and you can use his predilection for following orders

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<v Speaker 1>as a military guy to fool him. He's easily manipulatable

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<v Speaker 1>because of that. And Hal says, is that how you

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<v Speaker 1>fooled me? And Sinestro doesn't really answer the question. He

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<v Speaker 1>just says, I've always been the same guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You just missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just missed it. You just missed my true nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not make that same mistake with Jon Stewart.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I was always ambitious. I was always the

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<v Speaker 2>same ambitious guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, the Sinestro stuff is so great.

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<v Speaker 3>Lars killing it. I kind of like the way that

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing it. He's kind of broken and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have anything to live for, but he's always machinating.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see that he's already doing the most.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that over the course of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>It's become clear to me that Laura Linney is like

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<v Speaker 1>out on her own. I don't think she's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think she's representing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We'll get to it. We'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So I think there's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of conversation about like different people's agendas after this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Jon Stewart goes to get a scope from the

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<v Speaker 1>gun score, just a scope. They don't like him there

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<v Speaker 1>because of his association with Hal and them being outsiders

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<v Speaker 1>and alien associated outsiders kind of around town. So they, they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make it hard for him at the gun store.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, well, no, you, we don't sell just a scope.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to buy the rifle and the scope. So

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<v Speaker 1>John's like, okay. Very cheerfully used to deal with situations

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<v Speaker 1>like these. I'll take a rifle and a scope then.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he buys the rifle and the scope and

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<v Speaker 1>then unscrews the scope and leaves the rifle. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys later. Have a nice day.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a blessed day.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really doing the, Aaron Pierre is charming the pants

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<v Speaker 3>off people in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to the town water tower. To scout the

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<v Speaker 1>ranch using the scope. And he sees a helicopter landing

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<v Speaker 1>on the ranch. And then Hal, back from space, lands

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of him. And John asks where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I knocked on your door. Where were you? I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting laid in space. I was having sex in space, Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart then reminds Hal that, you know, we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on a ticking clock here. There's an alien death

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<v Speaker 1>squad that's looking to blow up the city in like

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<v Speaker 1>36 hours. So we really got to get on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he then lays out for her how what he

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<v Speaker 1>has discovered. There is a spot, which he calls the weenie,

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<v Speaker 1>based on a comment on architecture by Walt Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, showing his architectural nous here. Yes. Right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is identified on the ranch of the weenie,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the place where on the ranch that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to anchor everything, but that also is not visible from

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere outside of the ranch. He can't see it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that must be the important place. There's a chopper that

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<v Speaker 1>lands there every single day at just after 9 a.m.

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<v Speaker 1>And while that could be a decoy, it could also

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<v Speaker 1>be the exact spot that they're looking for. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they have to get in there. Hal then updates the sheriff.

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<v Speaker 1>Because one, he has a crush on the sheriff, but

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<v Speaker 1>also he's kind of, you know, he needs, he's both

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<v Speaker 1>Hal and John have been fucking up with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff and they really need to include her.

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<v Speaker 2>In the investigation. They need allies as well. Like they

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<v Speaker 2>have no allies.

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<v Speaker 1>John is like, oh yeah, sure. You need to update

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff because he understands that Hal is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sweet on the sheriff.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both yarners for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. They go to the bar, which is closed

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<v Speaker 1>during the day and is apparently owned by the sheriff's family.

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart tells her, OK, here's what's going on. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a Manhunter. He's an intergalactic war criminal hiding in Rushville.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an alien hit team that that's the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who got shot on the football field. They're going after it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to kill it. If they can't find it

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<v Speaker 1>and we and I don't call in with the identity

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<v Speaker 1>and location of the Manhunter in 36 hours, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to blow up the city. It could look like anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Alien detectors won't work on it. And the sheriff says

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<v Speaker 1>in kind of like the thing fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Bury the thing. Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it could be me. And Hal basically lays out

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<v Speaker 1>like that doesn't work. The timeline doesn't work. I did

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<v Speaker 1>some like. i looked you up on instagram yeah he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to goon ethically so he had to check you

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<v Speaker 1>were not the manhunter right i looked you up on

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<v Speaker 1>instagram and um i like what you've done with your

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<v Speaker 1>hair in the years since but i didn't get bangs

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<v Speaker 1>anymore i appreciate it but it's clear because I know

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<v Speaker 1>when Abin Sur, the lantern crashed here with the Manhunter that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that must've been when the Manhunter arrived. And because you

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<v Speaker 1>were in Gotham at that time, it doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>that it's you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you wouldn't, you existed before he arrived and we

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<v Speaker 3>know that whoever it is doesn't exist before he arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So, um, The Manhunter is Macon's benefactor, they are pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And they think the sheriff could figure out who that

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<v Speaker 1>is or might even know who that is. So meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart's phone is blowing up because his parents are

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<v Speaker 1>just like, Guardians want to talk to you. Guardians want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. Guardians want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such an unhealthy dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Linney, sort it out, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal then tells the sheriff that they're going to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>the weenie, and the sheriff's like, okay, but you realize

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<v Speaker 1>you're only probably going to get one shot at this,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't fuck it up. Back at the motel, Hal says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go tonight, and we'll wait till nightfall.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to their rooms. Laura Linney then appears to

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart, and... She's not happy. It's not just like

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<v Speaker 1>not happy, but the amount of pressure she's putting on

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<v Speaker 1>John definitely makes me feel like she's up to something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like she's doing this to create her own

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<v Speaker 3>lantern against the wishes of the other guardian or something, right?

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<v Speaker 1>She's up to something. John senses it, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>get that until later. So she basically tells John, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>why haven't you been in contact? And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm investigating this thing. That you made me do.

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<v Speaker 2>That you made me do.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, well, why haven't you, like, this, that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other, gotten the ring? Like, you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>wants him to seize the ring from Hal. It becomes

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly clear. He's like, well, that hasn't happened yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're investigating this thing. And she's like, well, maybe what

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<v Speaker 1>it is is I was wrong about you, and your

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<v Speaker 1>mom was wrong about you, and you're actually weak. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not strong. You're not creative. You don't have the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we thought you did, that your mom oversold. And

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<v Speaker 1>when she said, you've been raised to do this, she

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<v Speaker 1>was actually completely wrong. And we've wasted years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years. And in fact, your whole life investing in you.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're just like completely wrong about you. And he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I was made for this. Hal is weak. Hal...

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<v Speaker 1>It will never be. He's old. He's washed up. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>never be a fraction as good as the lantern than

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<v Speaker 1>I will be because I am creative. I am strong.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have been training for this my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>And she says, great. So what you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>is when Hal gives you the ring for your training,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever happens. Immediately say the oath and you will

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<v Speaker 1>seize the ring from him and you will be the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Lantern.

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<v Speaker 3>That is when I knew she was definitely on some

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<v Speaker 3>shady shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Because where's the ceremony?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's the commencement? Why does Jon have to steal the

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<v Speaker 3>ring from Jon? And why is she the only guardian

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<v Speaker 3>saying this? I don't see no birds. I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>anyone telling him nothing. Like, no, I think you're right, Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>A hundred percent, especially on my second watch. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>she's desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Can I say something? Can I say something?

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<v Speaker 3>This is just a silly canon thing and maybe we're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the comics, right, the Guardians are really short.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fact that she was really tall, like, is

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<v Speaker 3>she a different kind of alien?

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she is a Guardian. And it's probably just

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<v Speaker 3>like how they always change that stuff. Like how the

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<v Speaker 3>Goombas in Mario had small heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of big heads. But like, but we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about theories.

0:13:42.830 --> 0:13:45.130
<v Speaker 3>We did need to say, guys, this is a red

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<v Speaker 3>flag on Laura Linney's intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>Big red flag. We should also say that she tells

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<v Speaker 1>John that Hal was not in space having sex. He

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<v Speaker 1>was talking with Sinestro, violating his oath.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking his oath.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, what were they talking about? And she

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I was hoping that you could tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like, how would John know?

0:14:05.929 --> 0:14:09.290
<v Speaker 2>But also, don't you have cameras in that prison, girl? Like,

0:14:09.330 --> 0:14:10.130
<v Speaker 2>come on, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That is another part of my theory that I'm eager

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<v Speaker 1>to lay out. Okay, so John smells rat. he's hesitant

0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.260
<v Speaker 1>because again, to your point, Rosie, where is the ceremony?

0:14:21.340 --> 0:14:23.780
<v Speaker 1>Why are the guardians not giving him the ring?

0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.470
<v Speaker 3>Why is he in that silly place in Oa with

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<v Speaker 3>all the guys sitting around.

0:14:27.930 --> 0:14:31.770
<v Speaker 2>Looking at him? Like they like all that funny alien shit. Exactly.

0:14:31.850 --> 0:14:35.050
<v Speaker 2>And those long robes with the glowing Oa. With the

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<v Speaker 2>glowing shit.

0:14:36.010 --> 0:14:38.090
<v Speaker 1>Why is he, why does he have to steal it

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<v Speaker 1>from how?

0:14:39.210 --> 0:14:41.700
<v Speaker 3>And also then how does he get the fucking lantern?

0:14:41.740 --> 0:14:44.420
<v Speaker 3>Like that seems sus. The whole thing is questionable.

0:14:44.460 --> 0:14:45.500
<v Speaker 2>And John's clever.

0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You start to see they've played him quite like straight.

0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.980
<v Speaker 3>Obviously the last episode, we got a lot more emotional core,

0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.000
<v Speaker 3>but we get to see him kind of coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of his shell a bit here.

0:14:55.020 --> 0:14:56.260
<v Speaker 2>And you also see that he.

0:14:56.260 --> 0:14:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Is so much more going on beneath the surface than

0:14:59.360 --> 0:14:59.990
<v Speaker 3>he lets on.

0:15:00.500 --> 0:15:02.550
<v Speaker 1>And actually this is where Laura Linney goes crazy. And

0:15:02.590 --> 0:15:04.470
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, maybe I was wrong. Maybe you're weak

0:15:04.530 --> 0:15:06.790
<v Speaker 1>and your mom was wrong and your parents fucked up.

0:15:06.930 --> 0:15:10.610
<v Speaker 1>And actually like, you're all a complete waste of our time.

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<v Speaker 1>She then says, listen, Hal Jordan is, has filed reports

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<v Speaker 1>about you, and his reports say that you're uncreative, basically.

0:15:22.430 --> 0:15:25.410
<v Speaker 1>And that's when John goes on the tirade saying, like,

0:15:25.450 --> 0:15:26.020
<v Speaker 1>he's washed up.

0:15:26.030 --> 0:15:26.750
<v Speaker 2>He's fucking washed.

0:15:26.770 --> 0:15:30.250
<v Speaker 1>He's not shit. He's Shaq on the Celtics. Like, he's nothing.

0:15:30.290 --> 0:15:32.020
<v Speaker 2>You love that comparison right now.

0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the picture is so good.

0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:34.240
<v Speaker 2>The classic.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she tells him, well, you know, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, if you are going to be 15 times

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Lantern that he ever will be, Prove it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get the fucking ring. She's really putting the pressure on.

0:15:49.740 --> 0:15:52.520
<v Speaker 1>John goes to knock on Hal's door. He suggests to

0:15:52.580 --> 0:15:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Hal that, listen, look at the layout of the guard towers.

0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.770
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be really dumb if you fly in.

0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.960
<v Speaker 1>They're going to see you. They're going to shoot at you.

0:16:04.340 --> 0:16:07.940
<v Speaker 1>And they'll know you're coming. We should tunnel in. And

0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.220
<v Speaker 1>he then shows Hal a design he's been sketching for

0:16:11.420 --> 0:16:15.810
<v Speaker 1>a tunnel boring machine. And Hal says, you draw this.

0:16:16.490 --> 0:16:19.410
<v Speaker 1>And he says, it just says, I'm creative. I'm creative.

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<v Speaker 1>And they head off.

0:16:20.690 --> 0:16:24.220
<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean. Like, some of the funny line

0:16:24.260 --> 0:16:27.620
<v Speaker 2>deliveries of, like, his jokes are, like, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So they get to the outskirts of the ranch. And

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps just as John planned, Hal hands John the ring

0:16:36.870 --> 0:16:42.780
<v Speaker 1>to manifest this machine. Mm-hmm. Because either Hal feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he can't do it or he wants to see really

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<v Speaker 1>what John is made of, whatever the reason.

0:16:47.500 --> 0:16:50.230
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good question because I think Hal

0:16:50.310 --> 0:16:52.850
<v Speaker 3>thinks he's doing it because he wants to see what

0:16:52.890 --> 0:16:53.650
<v Speaker 3>John's made of.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that Hal's like.

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<v Speaker 3>lizard brain is saying you can't fucking manifest that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Hal's made stuff like this before i don't know like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah but i don't know if he's made it

0:17:05.290 --> 0:17:09.910
<v Speaker 3>like this engineeringly correct like this seems like intricate this

0:17:09.970 --> 0:17:13.490
<v Speaker 3>hal is a blow shit up like big fist hal.

0:17:13.230 --> 0:17:15.830
<v Speaker 2>Big that's kind of what we've seen right big gun

0:17:15.890 --> 0:17:16.490
<v Speaker 2>big tank.

0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.220
<v Speaker 3>Like John is like making shit that works like the.

0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.580
<v Speaker 1>Round, the round bomb with the fuse.

0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.940
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Looney Tunes shit. Acme ass shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I think Hal could maybe do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe not as well as John. And I think

0:17:33.070 --> 0:17:37.490
<v Speaker 1>maybe it would take longer. We'll see. So he gives

0:17:38.250 --> 0:17:42.740
<v Speaker 1>John the ring. John puts it on and acts a

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.970
<v Speaker 1>little surprised. And then he does not do the thing.

0:17:46.070 --> 0:17:46.409
<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>He maybe thinks about it. There's a pause where he

0:17:49.310 --> 0:17:51.670
<v Speaker 1>thinks about it. But he doesn't do it. He then

0:17:51.750 --> 0:17:55.610
<v Speaker 1>manifests the boring machine. And it tunnels into the ground.

0:17:55.630 --> 0:17:56.590
<v Speaker 1>They're walking behind it.

0:17:56.910 --> 0:18:01.130
<v Speaker 3>Very incredible professional tunnel with no gravel coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, they are safe.

0:18:02.150 --> 0:18:02.770
<v Speaker 1>Very well done.

0:18:03.010 --> 0:18:05.970
<v Speaker 2>John Stewart is an architect. It's just compacted.

0:18:06.130 --> 0:18:08.130
<v Speaker 1>Well, the dirt just, like, disappears.

0:18:08.190 --> 0:18:08.540
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:18:08.650 --> 0:18:11.540
<v Speaker 2>It's like they're just, like, in a professionally made tunnel.

0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.500
<v Speaker 2>I love it. They can make a lot of money

0:18:13.540 --> 0:18:13.940
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.859
<v Speaker 1>So they're walking by in the tunneling machine and just

0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:22.219
<v Speaker 1>kind of chatting. Jon Stewart, Hal's like, how'd you do this?

0:18:22.300 --> 0:18:24.700
<v Speaker 1>And Jon's like, I went to art school. And Hal's

0:18:25.500 --> 0:18:29.540
<v Speaker 1>kind of surprised. And he asks about his parents. How's

0:18:29.580 --> 0:18:33.680
<v Speaker 1>your mom doing? And Jon's like, she's doing great. How

0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.850
<v Speaker 1>is your mom? And he's like, she's dead. And Jon's like, oops, sorry.

0:18:38.310 --> 0:18:41.070
<v Speaker 1>And then Hal Jordan then says, actually, both my parents

0:18:41.109 --> 0:18:46.140
<v Speaker 1>are dead. And Jon asks about them and the dad

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and how Jordan says, you know, my dad was fearless,

0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 1>or at least he pretended to be fearless. John asks

0:18:52.420 --> 0:18:54.880
<v Speaker 1>what he was afraid of, Hal completely dodges the question.

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<v Speaker 1>They then arrive at the spot, crawl out of the hole,

0:18:59.869 --> 0:19:01.590
<v Speaker 1>and they see what appears to be some kind of

0:19:01.609 --> 0:19:04.710
<v Speaker 1>barracks building there in the distance. They run towards it.

0:19:05.810 --> 0:19:08.409
<v Speaker 1>Big metal door to get in, lots of high-tech security,

0:19:08.510 --> 0:19:13.810
<v Speaker 1>lots of advanced weapons on racks and work tables. The benefactor...

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<v Speaker 1>The person helping Macon with these designs must be the Manhunter.

0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.300
<v Speaker 2>It must be the Manhunter or some kind of high-tech

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 2>space person.

0:19:21.820 --> 0:19:26.460
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Hal Jordan then immediately steps on some kind of

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.980
<v Speaker 1>pressure plate alarm. Jon Stewart is like, okay, what do

0:19:30.340 --> 0:19:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you weigh? 185-ish, Hal says. So he manifests this big

0:19:33.770 --> 0:19:38.070
<v Speaker 1>green weight. And they do like the beginning of Indiana Jones.

0:19:38.270 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And then they trade off the weight for the foot.

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.719
<v Speaker 1>But the alarm goes off. Armed guys come running in

0:19:43.780 --> 0:19:47.209
<v Speaker 1>with these weird lit up guns and these special glasses.

0:19:48.090 --> 0:19:51.670
<v Speaker 1>They then charge at John. and Hal before John can

0:19:51.710 --> 0:19:53.369
<v Speaker 1>do anything with the ring. They shoot this kind of

0:19:53.550 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>smoke vortex at him.

0:19:54.859 --> 0:19:56.629
<v Speaker 2>Essentially like darkness.

0:19:56.670 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 3>They're basically shooting like darkness at the Green Lantern. So

0:19:59.619 --> 0:20:00.580
<v Speaker 3>they can't use the light.

0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.260
<v Speaker 2>You know, Green Lantern's light. It's kind of crazy.

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's very, very cool. And then they beat up John

0:20:07.460 --> 0:20:11.060
<v Speaker 1>and Hal and take them prisoner. They drag them both

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.260
<v Speaker 1>into Macon's office. Macon is on the phone confirming an

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.419
<v Speaker 1>order of 200 head of, we presume, cattle. But we

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:20:19.780 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't know.

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.950
<v Speaker 1>Macon is wearing like a velvet robe.

0:20:23.970 --> 0:20:26.710
<v Speaker 3>This guy is going crazy.

0:20:26.730 --> 0:20:30.109
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, he's like, this is some funny-ass.

0:20:29.570 --> 0:20:35.270
<v Speaker 1>Classic James Gunn shit. And Macon is like, my wife,

0:20:35.850 --> 0:20:38.050
<v Speaker 1>my beautiful wife Zoe, who I think you know intimately-

0:20:38.609 --> 0:20:40.050
<v Speaker 1>told me that you're an artist.

0:20:40.580 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Which medium?

0:20:41.580 --> 0:20:42.660
<v Speaker 1>And John's like, charcoal.

0:20:43.140 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, ah. He's unflinchable. You could not make John's

0:20:47.940 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 2>throat flinch. John is cool as a cucumber.

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.590
<v Speaker 3>He is like fucking Justice League Unlimited John. There's nothing

0:20:53.619 --> 0:20:54.890
<v Speaker 3>that can faze him.

0:20:55.330 --> 0:20:59.230
<v Speaker 1>He then says, oh, perfect. I have a set of

0:20:59.970 --> 0:21:03.290
<v Speaker 1>medium weight paper and charcoal over there. So we get

0:21:03.330 --> 0:21:06.060
<v Speaker 1>that charcoal over here. I'd like you to sketch me.

0:21:06.100 --> 0:21:09.500
<v Speaker 1>Would you sketch me? And then he Takes off the robe.

0:21:09.540 --> 0:21:14.859
<v Speaker 1>He's completely nude. And he's, you know, John, again, unflinching.

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.070
<v Speaker 1>He takes the charcoal and the paper and he's like,

0:21:17.410 --> 0:21:19.790
<v Speaker 1>could you relax your hands? Yeah, just don't move.

0:21:19.810 --> 0:21:21.450
<v Speaker 2>Don't fucking move, man.

0:21:21.970 --> 0:21:25.510
<v Speaker 1>Make and then ask Zoe, who is heading for the door... honey,

0:21:25.690 --> 0:21:27.649
<v Speaker 1>could you stick around? Why don't you stick around and

0:21:27.670 --> 0:21:28.490
<v Speaker 1>just watch this?

0:21:28.510 --> 0:21:32.250
<v Speaker 3>This man is so crazy.

0:21:32.970 --> 0:21:36.060
<v Speaker 1>Hilarious line where he's like, you can holster up Parker.

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.680
<v Speaker 1>John can draw from memory. Which is also true.

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:41.899
<v Speaker 2>John's got an eidetic memory, baby.

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.989
<v Speaker 1>It's very, very funny. Um, And then Macon says, oh,

0:21:47.010 --> 0:21:50.630
<v Speaker 1>then you can draw my wife, which is very, like.

0:21:50.650 --> 0:21:51.490
<v Speaker 2>Stops the room.

0:21:52.030 --> 0:21:54.580
<v Speaker 3>And then they do, like, a hilarious Star Wars, like,

0:21:54.670 --> 0:21:55.990
<v Speaker 3>everyone looks at each other.

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.100
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. It's like, yep, okay.

0:21:58.619 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Hal Jordan asks about all that advanced weaponry down at

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:07.980
<v Speaker 1>the weenie and this darkness bomb that seems like it

0:22:08.020 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>was specifically targeted to neutralize lanterns. And Macon's like, well,

0:22:12.580 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you know... We, you never know. We're ready for any, yeah,

0:22:17.060 --> 0:22:21.020
<v Speaker 1>we're ready for any kind of, um, uh, interference by

0:22:21.140 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 1>aliens and there's some alien lantern. So you never know.

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.830
<v Speaker 1>And then Macon then refers to his boss, who we

0:22:27.850 --> 0:22:31.070
<v Speaker 1>presume is the Manhunter as also his benefactor, but also

0:22:31.109 --> 0:22:36.909
<v Speaker 1>his savior. Apparently Macon had cancer, which the benefactor, the

0:22:36.930 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Manhunter cured the And that's how he and Zoe met.

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.139
<v Speaker 1>Zoe was his nurse while he was sick before the

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:49.350
<v Speaker 1>Manhunter came and cured his cancer. And all the while,

0:22:49.410 --> 0:22:52.090
<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart's like, could you just stop twitching and moving

0:22:52.150 --> 0:22:54.150
<v Speaker 1>around while you're telling this story? Like, I'm really trying

0:22:54.170 --> 0:22:57.550
<v Speaker 1>to get this right. Macon says, ever since the Manhunter arrived,

0:22:57.790 --> 0:23:01.290
<v Speaker 1>everything has been perfect in the town. Everyone healthy. The

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.220
<v Speaker 1>hospital's completely empty as they both saw.

0:23:04.580 --> 0:23:05.060
<v Speaker 2>Creepy.

0:23:05.300 --> 0:23:11.530
<v Speaker 1>Crops growing well. It's going perfectly. So why don't you,

0:23:11.550 --> 0:23:14.510
<v Speaker 1>Hal and John, just leave? Because you're really just like

0:23:14.630 --> 0:23:16.810
<v Speaker 1>shaking the boat and we just want to be left alone.

0:23:17.609 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And just get out of here. And will you do that?

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.020
<v Speaker 1>And Hal Jordan's like, you know, we can't. Sorry, no. No.

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.940
<v Speaker 1>Hal Jordan then says, and by the way, before you

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.740
<v Speaker 1>get to the part where you threaten me, you know

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.250
<v Speaker 1>if you kill me. The lanterns are going to be down.

0:23:33.270 --> 0:23:36.050
<v Speaker 1>There's going to be 900 lanterns down here in your

0:23:36.109 --> 0:23:40.350
<v Speaker 1>fucking ass doing a colonoscopy on this fucking entire town.

0:23:40.450 --> 0:23:44.990
<v Speaker 1>And I know you don't want that. And he says, true,

0:23:45.730 --> 0:23:50.449
<v Speaker 1>but Jon Stewart isn't a lantern. Obvious threat. The sheriff

0:23:50.910 --> 0:23:57.149
<v Speaker 1>then comes in and is like, dad, get dressed. One. Two,

0:23:57.970 --> 0:24:00.090
<v Speaker 1>Hal and John, you're coming with me. I got a

0:24:00.130 --> 0:24:04.270
<v Speaker 1>call that there was somebody trespassing on the ranch.

0:24:04.869 --> 0:24:06.629
<v Speaker 2>And it's obviously you.

0:24:06.710 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm arresting you. We're going. Macon tries to get the

0:24:09.740 --> 0:24:11.860
<v Speaker 1>sheriff to leave, but she's like, absolutely not. You guys

0:24:11.900 --> 0:24:14.379
<v Speaker 1>are leaving with me. Let's take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back with the recap after this. Music

0:24:30.950 --> 0:24:33.629
<v Speaker 1>And we're back. So back at the motel, the sheriff

0:24:33.970 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>drops them off and is like, they're sitting in the

0:24:36.500 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>car and she's just really reaming them out. She's like,

0:24:38.580 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys really fucked up. If Zoe didn't call me,

0:24:41.140 --> 0:24:47.030
<v Speaker 1>you guys both would be dead. She's also very distraught

0:24:47.070 --> 0:24:49.409
<v Speaker 1>because it's a family issue for her. Recall that she

0:24:49.470 --> 0:24:53.590
<v Speaker 1>is married to Macon's son. And she also says, listen,

0:24:53.630 --> 0:24:55.970
<v Speaker 1>while you guys were doing that, I broke into Billy's files.

0:24:56.630 --> 0:24:58.889
<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm close to figuring out who this

0:24:58.950 --> 0:25:02.990
<v Speaker 1>benefactor is. You two just need to go to your

0:25:03.050 --> 0:25:05.709
<v Speaker 1>fucking hotel rooms, lock the doors, and don't come out

0:25:05.780 --> 0:25:08.300
<v Speaker 1>until I come to see you. Okay? Because I will

0:25:08.540 --> 0:25:11.020
<v Speaker 1>work on this shit. She also snatched the ring off

0:25:11.580 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Macon's desk and she gives it to Hal. She then

0:25:14.980 --> 0:25:17.740
<v Speaker 1>goes to her trunk. She gives Jon Stewart a shotgun

0:25:17.780 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't have a ring. And she drives away.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:26.970
<v Speaker 1>As Hal and Jon are leaving, Hal goes, Jon! What?

0:25:28.050 --> 0:25:32.380
<v Speaker 1>We found Macon's weenie. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Fucking dad joke.

0:25:32.540 --> 0:25:35.780
<v Speaker 3>They're loving these fucking Hal Stewart jokes in this.

0:25:35.859 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Hal, Hal. Oh, that's the ship name, clearly.

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Hal Jordan dad jokes in this.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>So John Stewart finally gets his mom, like his mom

0:25:44.660 --> 0:25:48.860
<v Speaker 1>gets through on the phone and he tells her, she's like,

0:25:48.940 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>did you get it? Like, what's going on? And she's like,

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>they're not giving it to me. Laura Linney wants me

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.649
<v Speaker 1>to steal it from her. from hal they're making me

0:25:57.690 --> 0:26:00.070
<v Speaker 1>take it from him and she's like well fucking do

0:26:00.170 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it don't lose focus don't forget what you're doing here

0:26:02.820 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>like go do it he hangs up a car pulls

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.220
<v Speaker 1>up thanks mom yeah i know she doesn't have any

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.740
<v Speaker 1>you know it's like typical parents it's like yeah when

0:26:10.780 --> 0:26:13.429
<v Speaker 1>you go off to go do something whether it's college

0:26:13.470 --> 0:26:15.930
<v Speaker 1>or whatever they'll give you this advice and it's like

0:26:16.190 --> 0:26:17.870
<v Speaker 1>i love you but you don't know you have.

0:26:17.830 --> 0:26:19.750
<v Speaker 3>No you have no idea of the context what's going

0:26:19.810 --> 0:26:23.290
<v Speaker 3>yeah you don't know what's going on Zoe pulls up

0:26:23.750 --> 0:26:25.050
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, what are you doing here?

0:26:25.090 --> 0:26:27.149
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I'm here for the fucking. So they fuck.

0:26:27.170 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on.

0:26:27.890 --> 0:26:30.420
<v Speaker 3>She's like, what do you think? I need to get fucked.

0:26:30.619 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 3>And my husband clearly is into this. So let's get

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 3>it on.

0:26:34.700 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Or can he not do anything about it?

0:26:37.220 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, if she's the manhunter, he can't do nothing about it.

0:26:41.940 --> 0:26:44.660
<v Speaker 2>It's giving big manhunter. We'll talk about it. It really is.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.730
<v Speaker 1>Now, maybe she's an incredible distraction from the true manhunter.

0:26:47.910 --> 0:26:50.010
<v Speaker 2>I think she is the real manhunter.

0:26:50.050 --> 0:26:54.790
<v Speaker 1>So they fuck. And afterwards, they're chatting. And she says that, one,

0:26:54.850 --> 0:26:56.810
<v Speaker 1>it was nice to not fuck in her truck. And two,

0:26:57.950 --> 0:27:01.650
<v Speaker 1>you know, I care about you. And if you stay here,

0:27:01.670 --> 0:27:03.869
<v Speaker 1>you're going to die. So you really should leave. And

0:27:03.910 --> 0:27:06.650
<v Speaker 1>I hope you leave. And John's like, well, we're not leaving.

0:27:07.770 --> 0:27:11.710
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, why? And he says, because I feel

0:27:11.750 --> 0:27:15.190
<v Speaker 1>like I need to find out why everyone is lying

0:27:15.230 --> 0:27:18.970
<v Speaker 1>to me. That's Hal Jordan. That's you. That's Laura Linney,

0:27:19.010 --> 0:27:23.090
<v Speaker 1>who you don't know about. That's Macon. Everybody is lying

0:27:23.150 --> 0:27:25.430
<v Speaker 1>to me. She's like, even me? Yes, you are lying

0:27:25.450 --> 0:27:30.459
<v Speaker 1>to me for sure. 100%. And she then says, when

0:27:30.500 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what I know, everything changes.

0:27:33.300 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>She says.

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>That, um, make it owes her. He's like, what, what

0:27:40.900 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>does make, you know, like, what do you owe to

0:27:42.180 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>make it? And she's like, no, you have it wrong.

0:27:44.700 --> 0:27:50.030
<v Speaker 1>He owes me. I saved his life. Now I'm trying

0:27:50.070 --> 0:27:54.609
<v Speaker 1>to save your life. And I just really think you

0:27:54.630 --> 0:27:58.570
<v Speaker 1>really need to leave. He refuses to go. Um, so

0:27:58.670 --> 0:28:01.050
<v Speaker 1>she's like, okay, whatever. She gets in her car and

0:28:01.070 --> 0:28:05.010
<v Speaker 1>drives away. And just then like, uh, uh, A laser beam.

0:28:05.030 --> 0:28:06.270
<v Speaker 2>A crazy laser beam.

0:28:06.290 --> 0:28:12.870
<v Speaker 1>Satellite fucking laser beam. Like in a video game. Hits

0:28:12.930 --> 0:28:16.670
<v Speaker 1>the car and explodes. Hal comes out of his motel room.

0:28:17.310 --> 0:28:19.490
<v Speaker 1>John points to where it came from. He flies up,

0:28:19.650 --> 0:28:22.780
<v Speaker 1>comes back down with the satellite that was flying up there.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>The sheriff comes back sometime later. There's now like a

0:28:27.220 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>green shield over the motel. And John is... taking apart

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the satellite to find anything that they can use to

0:28:37.020 --> 0:28:40.959
<v Speaker 1>identify this, this thing. And the sheriff narrows down the

0:28:41.020 --> 0:28:47.260
<v Speaker 1>maker of this like drone satellite to three different companies. Um,

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.390
<v Speaker 1>John Stewart gets the serial number out of the wreckage.

0:28:50.850 --> 0:28:54.210
<v Speaker 1>Hal traces it. They trace it to this company called Atlas,

0:28:54.650 --> 0:28:58.570
<v Speaker 1>which is run by this guy, Hector Hammond, who is

0:28:58.610 --> 0:29:03.090
<v Speaker 1>the owner of various high-tech slaughterhouses about 90 miles away. Um,

0:29:04.060 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Hal's like, got him. Let's go over there and take

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.660
<v Speaker 1>care of this. And John's like, got him. Like, this

0:29:08.740 --> 0:29:10.260
<v Speaker 1>is way too easy.

0:29:10.300 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:10.900 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>This is like a, this has got to be a trap. Why,

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.300
<v Speaker 1>why did it take no investigation to figure this out?

0:29:17.820 --> 0:29:21.940
<v Speaker 1>If that satellite is up there, why didn't they laser us? Like,

0:29:21.980 --> 0:29:25.970
<v Speaker 1>why did they laser Zoe? This is clearly like a

0:29:26.110 --> 0:29:31.500
<v Speaker 1>targeted killing. That was something strategic about. Targeting Zoe. He

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>also at a certain point notices that Zoe left like

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.910
<v Speaker 1>a bracelet in his room. Yeah.

0:29:35.930 --> 0:29:38.230
<v Speaker 2>Like a ring. I think it is or something. And

0:29:38.250 --> 0:29:39.990
<v Speaker 2>he also, he seems to be.

0:29:40.010 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Be surprisingly not upset for someone whose boo just got

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.100
<v Speaker 3>exploded which yes you know how we'll start to clock

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:47.860
<v Speaker 3>on how.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:52.420
<v Speaker 1>Is clocking on so they and by the way we

0:29:52.460 --> 0:29:55.220
<v Speaker 1>will find out that this whole motel is bugged which

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.540
<v Speaker 1>maybe john knew Which is why it may be that

0:29:59.580 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>he knew that.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:00.900
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Yeah.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So they drive towards this Atlas place anyway, which made

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:09.150
<v Speaker 1>me feel like, why doesn't Hal manifest some kind of

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.830
<v Speaker 1>plane that they could put the car on?

0:30:10.850 --> 0:30:12.140
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

0:30:12.420 --> 0:30:14.330
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could manifest anything, babe.

0:30:14.730 --> 0:30:15.870
<v Speaker 1>And just fly it over there?

0:30:15.930 --> 0:30:18.290
<v Speaker 2>Manifest a fucking portal and go through it.

0:30:18.390 --> 0:30:19.650
<v Speaker 1>Just go through it. Anyway.

0:30:19.770 --> 0:30:20.050
<v Speaker 2>Come on.

0:30:20.780 --> 0:30:22.860
<v Speaker 1>But it's a good opportunity for these two to talk.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>They've got to have a little chat. They've got to

0:30:24.380 --> 0:30:25.980
<v Speaker 2>have a little voice time, and that's okay.

0:30:26.220 --> 0:30:30.100
<v Speaker 1>Hal asks John how he's doing. He says, you know,

0:30:30.900 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a nice moment, actually, because he's checking

0:30:33.700 --> 0:30:36.410
<v Speaker 1>in on him and he's concerned about the fact that

0:30:36.430 --> 0:30:39.469
<v Speaker 1>this woman that John was involved in just got blown up.

0:30:39.670 --> 0:30:42.670
<v Speaker 1>And he says, listen, dying's part of the job. You

0:30:42.710 --> 0:30:46.010
<v Speaker 1>sense some of the bitterness of Hal here. Like real

0:30:46.130 --> 0:30:50.900
<v Speaker 1>bitterness and trauma. He says, listen. Keep people at a distance,

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:56.060
<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart. And then he gets, like, actually really bitter

0:30:56.100 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and mad. He just says, he says, lonely fucking job.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.340
<v Speaker 1>In this really, really cutting way.

0:31:03.860 --> 0:31:06.330
<v Speaker 2>About his giant empty mansion, you know.

0:31:06.380 --> 0:31:06.700
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:06.770 --> 0:31:08.890
<v Speaker 3>He's got the trappings of a beautiful life, but he

0:31:08.950 --> 0:31:10.170
<v Speaker 3>can't share it with anyone.

0:31:10.910 --> 0:31:14.770
<v Speaker 1>He then... John asks about the other lanterns. Like, why

0:31:14.790 --> 0:31:16.330
<v Speaker 1>don't you talk to the other lanterns? And he's like,

0:31:16.350 --> 0:31:18.730
<v Speaker 1>they're fucking aliens. They're mostly aliens. I'm the only human.

0:31:18.850 --> 0:31:19.950
<v Speaker 2>One of them's a squirrel.

0:31:21.950 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>He admits to John that he hates having John as

0:31:24.820 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>his backup. John Stewart suggests they get to that slaughterhouse.

0:31:29.460 --> 0:31:32.500
<v Speaker 1>And John Stewart is like, why don't you give me

0:31:32.540 --> 0:31:35.570
<v Speaker 1>the ring? He'll expect you to have it. And then

0:31:35.590 --> 0:31:39.210
<v Speaker 1>you'll be the decoy. And Hal's like, no, but I

0:31:39.250 --> 0:31:41.860
<v Speaker 1>do like the confidence. It might also be that Hal

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.500
<v Speaker 1>is suspicious of John at this point.

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.100
<v Speaker 3>I think that the tension between the two of them

0:31:47.140 --> 0:31:49.700
<v Speaker 3>in the second half of this episode is really interesting

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 3>by the time you get to the end, because they're

0:31:51.980 --> 0:31:54.770
<v Speaker 3>both trying to work out how to kind of survive this.

0:31:55.640 --> 0:32:01.830
<v Speaker 1>So they go in to the slaughterhouse. The employees very

0:32:01.910 --> 0:32:06.290
<v Speaker 1>strangely pay zero attention to them, despite the fact that

0:32:07.530 --> 0:32:10.050
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're talking and being like, where's Hector Hammond?

0:32:10.070 --> 0:32:12.270
<v Speaker 1>They're looking all around. They're wandering around. They clearly shouldn't

0:32:12.310 --> 0:32:12.670
<v Speaker 1>be there.

0:32:12.690 --> 0:32:15.270
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're asking where the boss is and they're just

0:32:15.330 --> 0:32:17.150
<v Speaker 3>like leaving them to it every time.

0:32:17.170 --> 0:32:19.110
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are just like almost like robots.

0:32:19.850 --> 0:32:22.310
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels very robot-ish or like clone-ish.

0:32:22.710 --> 0:32:24.870
<v Speaker 1>Or like, you know, like in the Black Hole, like

0:32:24.930 --> 0:32:25.530
<v Speaker 1>that Disney movie.

0:32:25.550 --> 0:32:27.010
<v Speaker 2>The Black Hole. Yeah, oh my God, I used to

0:32:27.050 --> 0:32:27.890
<v Speaker 2>love that movie.

0:32:28.410 --> 0:32:31.580
<v Speaker 1>So they watch a cow get lasered apart. John Stewart's like,

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.540
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm vegan. And all these like robot arms

0:32:34.580 --> 0:32:37.250
<v Speaker 1>come down and. And then the guys come in and

0:32:37.290 --> 0:32:41.390
<v Speaker 1>they put the meat like on whatever, on carts to

0:32:41.430 --> 0:32:44.890
<v Speaker 1>take it away. And maybe this is the 200 head

0:32:44.930 --> 0:32:47.570
<v Speaker 1>of cattle that Macon was talking about earlier. We're not clear.

0:32:49.350 --> 0:32:52.210
<v Speaker 1>They find Hammond in his office. Hammond's at his laptop.

0:32:52.270 --> 0:32:55.660
<v Speaker 1>He seems not at all nervous that they're there. He

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.700
<v Speaker 1>says there's a satellite over John's parents' house and it

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>will kill them in like a minute unless I punch

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.380
<v Speaker 1>in this code. You can save them, John, but would

0:33:03.420 --> 0:33:08.660
<v Speaker 1>you like to know how? And then he says that

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:13.780
<v Speaker 1>he is the Manhunter, Hammond. And the way John can

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.500
<v Speaker 1>stop his parents being killed is to put in a

0:33:16.540 --> 0:33:18.980
<v Speaker 1>call to the hit squad and tell him he's there,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:23.100
<v Speaker 1>clearly drawing them to this place. Hal says, wait, hold on.

0:33:23.820 --> 0:33:26.020
<v Speaker 1>He's not the Green Lantern. I'm the Green Lantern. Talk

0:33:26.060 --> 0:33:29.860
<v Speaker 1>to me. I have the ring. I'm in control of this.

0:33:30.370 --> 0:33:33.540
<v Speaker 1>Hammond then goes, oh, you think you know your little

0:33:33.580 --> 0:33:36.910
<v Speaker 1>backup here? And then he plays the intercepted call from

0:33:36.950 --> 0:33:39.820
<v Speaker 1>the motel. Again, the motel was completely bugged. And it's

0:33:40.340 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Jon Stewart talking shit about Hal, about how he's washed

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's never going to be a fraction of the

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.580
<v Speaker 1>lantern that Jon will be and all this, this, that,

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and the other. Jon is a little abashed at this

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to hear this played. And Hammond says, well, Hal, you're

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.970
<v Speaker 1>now obsolete. So why should I talk to you? And

0:34:00.050 --> 0:34:04.770
<v Speaker 1>Hal goes, what color was Abin Sur, the alien who

0:34:04.790 --> 0:34:08.430
<v Speaker 1>dropped you off on this planet? And Hammond is like,

0:34:08.850 --> 0:34:10.629
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't recall. And he's like, oh, he's

0:34:10.670 --> 0:34:16.870
<v Speaker 1>a very, very unique color. And it's increasingly clear that

0:34:16.910 --> 0:34:20.330
<v Speaker 1>this guy is full of shit as well. Hal says

0:34:20.450 --> 0:34:25.450
<v Speaker 1>that Sinestra told him that the one way to identify

0:34:25.510 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Manhunters when they take on particularly carbon-based lifeforms Is the heart,

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.910
<v Speaker 1>the heart calcifies when it's taken out. So Hal is

0:34:34.950 --> 0:34:37.330
<v Speaker 1>basically saying, I'm going to cut your heart out right

0:34:37.350 --> 0:34:40.230
<v Speaker 1>now and see if you're a manhunter. And so this guy,

0:34:40.910 --> 0:34:43.230
<v Speaker 1>it like breaks and he's like, no, I'm human.

0:34:43.270 --> 0:34:44.030
<v Speaker 2>I'm human. I'm human.

0:34:44.590 --> 0:34:47.150
<v Speaker 1>And how gets him to punch in the code. And

0:34:47.190 --> 0:34:53.270
<v Speaker 1>so John's parents are safe and, uh, they then question

0:34:53.310 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>him on like the technology and all this stuff. Who's

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.740
<v Speaker 1>the manhunter. He says that the Manhunter isn't an obvious

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is Will Macon, the guy who's recently had Jon Stewart

0:35:04.660 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>draw his dick and balls. And I don't know, it

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:12.549
<v Speaker 1>feels it feels too straight line to me, but we'll see.

0:35:13.770 --> 0:35:16.850
<v Speaker 1>They drive back. Jon Stewart says, you know, I was

0:35:16.870 --> 0:35:19.770
<v Speaker 1>going to give the ring back. But I could have

0:35:20.170 --> 0:35:21.569
<v Speaker 1>stolen it. You know, all I need to do is

0:35:21.590 --> 0:35:23.410
<v Speaker 1>say the oath. And I didn't do that. So haven't

0:35:23.450 --> 0:35:26.830
<v Speaker 1>I earned your trust, basically, he's saying. He says, like,

0:35:27.210 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>that he just wanted to show Hal all the things

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>he was capable of. And Hal says that he would

0:35:31.780 --> 0:35:35.540
<v Speaker 1>have done the same thing. And that it's true that

0:35:35.660 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>there's a really good chance that Jon Stewart will be

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.259
<v Speaker 1>a better Green Lantern than him. And also that he's

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.820
<v Speaker 1>an asshole. But he warns Jon Stewart, listen, don't believe

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.180
<v Speaker 1>everything the Guardians say. you're in that mode now where

0:35:48.219 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you're so awed by the situation and the fact that

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you could get the ring and you're talking to aliens.

0:35:53.580 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't make that mistake. Don't believe what the guardians say.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.980
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, yeah, I went to go see Sinestro.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.690
<v Speaker 1>And some of the things I learned are that man hunters,

0:36:04.750 --> 0:36:06.969
<v Speaker 1>when they come to a new place, they find the

0:36:06.989 --> 0:36:10.370
<v Speaker 1>weak spots, the weak people, which is how they gain power.

0:36:10.410 --> 0:36:14.250
<v Speaker 1>They are master manipulators. They will. And when they feel

0:36:14.290 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>that their power is threatened, they, that's when they are

0:36:18.180 --> 0:36:22.180
<v Speaker 1>very dangerous. And they go, you know, who does that

0:36:22.219 --> 0:36:24.830
<v Speaker 1>remind you of? And John, in a way that is

0:36:24.890 --> 0:36:27.210
<v Speaker 1>very robotic, again, almost feeling like.

0:36:27.230 --> 0:36:29.689
<v Speaker 2>And does not do a good job here, John. You've

0:36:29.710 --> 0:36:31.709
<v Speaker 2>got to play... Well, this is like.

0:36:32.070 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if this is... Again, John feeling like maybe

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.860
<v Speaker 1>I'm being recorded or maybe this is bugged.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is true. That is true, actually. I feel that.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.010
<v Speaker 1>He says... Oh, yeah, must be, you know, must be making.

0:36:50.710 --> 0:36:53.950
<v Speaker 1>He then, Hal then tells John to call the hit

0:36:53.969 --> 0:36:57.879
<v Speaker 1>squad to a meeting at the cafe. And John Stewart

0:36:57.890 --> 0:37:00.540
<v Speaker 1>calls them, like, I got a name. Meet me at

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.660
<v Speaker 1>this cafe on the outskirts of town. And they're like,

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>we're close. We'll be there. Hal then gives John a

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>look and says, you know, I really did forgive you.

0:37:13.340 --> 0:37:16.339
<v Speaker 1>And then he basically is like, you know, I thought

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it was weird how calm you were when Zoe was

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.529
<v Speaker 1>blown up. But then I saw how nervous you, and

0:37:21.550 --> 0:37:23.450
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe you're just like a very, like a

0:37:23.510 --> 0:37:27.290
<v Speaker 1>steely guy, like, you know, ice in your veins. But

0:37:27.310 --> 0:37:30.850
<v Speaker 1>then I saw how frantic you got over your parents.

0:37:32.190 --> 0:37:36.140
<v Speaker 1>And I got really suspicious. You know that Zoe is

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.140
<v Speaker 1>faking her death. And I think she's the Manhunter, he says.

0:37:39.750 --> 0:37:42.250
<v Speaker 1>And I think you suspected she's the Manhunter. And John

0:37:42.270 --> 0:37:43.950
<v Speaker 1>basically admits it. He's like, yeah, I suspect.

0:37:43.969 --> 0:37:45.570
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like, yeah.

0:37:45.790 --> 0:37:47.770
<v Speaker 1>I did suspect that she was the Manhunter and I

0:37:47.790 --> 0:37:51.410
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything. I didn't tell the Guardians, but I

0:37:51.450 --> 0:37:55.890
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything because I wasn't sure. And then Hal goes, like, basically,

0:37:55.930 --> 0:37:58.210
<v Speaker 1>sorry about this, leaps out of the car and the

0:37:58.250 --> 0:38:03.299
<v Speaker 1>car crashes into a light pole. Cut to credits. Let's

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.020
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and we'll be back to talk

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:26.270
<v Speaker 1>about this episode. And we're back. I enjoyed getting back

0:38:26.290 --> 0:38:28.690
<v Speaker 1>to the plot. What is your thoughts on this episode?

0:38:29.210 --> 0:38:32.910
<v Speaker 2>I mean, canonically correct Hal Jordan. Like, Hal Jordan sucks.

0:38:33.250 --> 0:38:37.419
<v Speaker 3>Like, he is generally most interesting when he sucks. Yeah,

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.790
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, everyone knows I love the last episode.

0:38:39.910 --> 0:38:40.250
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:38:40.430 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>I love the expansion of John that we get here.

0:38:43.410 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I think the stuff with his art is really cool.

0:38:45.860 --> 0:38:48.660
<v Speaker 3>I love seeing him manifest more. I thought seeing him

0:38:48.700 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>manifest the watch.

0:38:49.630 --> 0:38:53.980
<v Speaker 2>Was really cool. I guess I would say I am slightly.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.340
<v Speaker 3>Conflicted on how I'm supposed to feel about Hal, because

0:38:56.390 --> 0:38:58.489
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the show is still cutting him like

0:38:58.530 --> 0:39:02.290
<v Speaker 3>he's really cool, but I'm very suspicious of his motives currently.

0:39:02.350 --> 0:39:05.830
<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested to see where they go. But yeah,

0:39:05.910 --> 0:39:08.190
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the mystery is really opening up here.

0:39:08.210 --> 0:39:10.550
<v Speaker 3>I feel like for halfway through the season, I actually

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>do want to know what's going on now. I think

0:39:12.540 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 3>the original murder mystery is irrelevant, which I think is

0:39:15.660 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a fake out, but I am intrigued.

0:39:19.620 --> 0:39:21.859
<v Speaker 3>with how many red herrings they're putting in our way.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Because there's no way that halfway through the show it

0:39:23.940 --> 0:39:26.710
<v Speaker 3>could just be solved and either be Zoe or Will Macon.

0:39:26.750 --> 0:39:28.870
<v Speaker 2>Or if it is, then we might have a very

0:39:28.950 --> 0:39:31.690
<v Speaker 2>different second half. of the show. I.

0:39:31.710 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I have several theories. Well, first of all, I'm convinced

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that Laura Linney is acting on her own. Whatever she's doing.

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.140
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about that. Like,

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 3>do you think she's completely by herself? Do you think

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 3>she represents a different segment of our government? Do you

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.670
<v Speaker 3>think she's like a rebellion....

0:39:50.070 --> 0:39:52.180
<v Speaker 2>Kind of player? Where do you think she's coming from?

0:39:52.540 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I think she might be the other Manhunter.

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, shit! Okay, that would actually be so cool.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Because she's so invested in Jon taking the ring and also... I.

0:40:14.580 --> 0:40:17.700
<v Speaker 3>Think she's... They keep saying how good the Manhunters are

0:40:17.900 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>at taking other people's forms.

0:40:20.570 --> 0:40:25.299
<v Speaker 1>And to your point took on like the guardians look

0:40:25.340 --> 0:40:28.060
<v Speaker 1>different why is she so tall like.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Is this was this a manhunter mistake right I'm also

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>in the comics you know the lanterns created the manhunters

0:40:35.590 --> 0:40:38.530
<v Speaker 3>I mean the oa created the manhunters before the lanterns

0:40:38.610 --> 0:40:41.950
<v Speaker 3>right so there is this kind of eternals-esque.

0:40:42.610 --> 0:40:44.140
<v Speaker 2>Feud between the two of them.

0:40:44.180 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>So it would be really interesting to see a Manhunter

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to gain the ring. And I do think Laura

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Linney's performance is really unsettling this episode and it hints

0:40:54.380 --> 0:40:56.180
<v Speaker 3>at bigger, weirder stuff for sure.

0:40:56.460 --> 0:40:59.510
<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder if that might not be what's

0:40:59.570 --> 0:41:03.090
<v Speaker 1>going on. And I think what we're heading towards is

0:41:03.170 --> 0:41:07.350
<v Speaker 1>some sort of flip. We're going to discover, I predict,

0:41:07.830 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that the Manhunter on Earth, Zoe, is... for all the

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.989
<v Speaker 1>weirdness that's going on on Earth, quote unquote, the good guy.

0:41:17.010 --> 0:41:19.669
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, benevolent, for sure. It seems that way.

0:41:19.989 --> 0:41:22.330
<v Speaker 1>From this other Manhunter that is hunting them down for

0:41:22.350 --> 0:41:27.299
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. And that this, I wonder if the Laura

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Linney Manhunter has been a Manhunter for a long time.

0:41:31.180 --> 0:41:32.660
<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm. They are old.

0:41:33.100 --> 0:41:40.860
<v Speaker 1>Sinestro knew that something was, maybe not that, They're a Manhunter,

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>but knew that something was going on and understood that

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>this segment, maybe this individual or this breakaway sect from

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.819
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians was trying to build their own power base

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and seize rings. And I'm not quite, I don't have

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that fleshed out.

0:42:00.540 --> 0:42:01.980
<v Speaker 2>It takes one to know one.

0:42:02.100 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>It does take one to know one, right?

0:42:04.300 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>So that I do think.

0:42:05.420 --> 0:42:10.450
<v Speaker 3>Is interesting because he specifically says to Hal, hey. ambition

0:42:10.550 --> 0:42:12.270
<v Speaker 3>that's what he says he says i was always an

0:42:12.350 --> 0:42:15.029
<v Speaker 3>ambitious person right you just didn't see it you didn't

0:42:15.070 --> 0:42:17.350
<v Speaker 3>see how far that ambition would take me so it

0:42:17.370 --> 0:42:19.770
<v Speaker 3>would it would make sense that he could even have

0:42:19.810 --> 0:42:23.240
<v Speaker 3>been part of that group or maybe recognized in that

0:42:23.300 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 3>group something he saw in himself which was obviously he

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 3>wanted more rings he wanted more power.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.420
<v Speaker 2>I i love that i also do love the.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.859
<v Speaker 3>Idea that she's not a guardian because we haven't seen

0:42:33.940 --> 0:42:37.779
<v Speaker 3>any others yet we're just trusting We're just trusting the

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 3>idea that this woman who has built this entire kind

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 3>of card of House of Lies, right, on these parents,

0:42:45.780 --> 0:42:48.859
<v Speaker 3>we're just trusting everything she says. We're trusting she's a guardian.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.850
<v Speaker 3>There hasn't been any kind of, like, two-step verification.

0:42:52.870 --> 0:42:53.950
<v Speaker 1>Now, I will say.

0:42:54.050 --> 0:42:55.730
<v Speaker 2>For the family, for Stuart's family.

0:42:56.370 --> 0:43:01.330
<v Speaker 1>Now, here's the wrinkle. I guess there's... We've seen her

0:43:01.430 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>work with at least two other people. There was the one...

0:43:05.250 --> 0:43:08.830
<v Speaker 1>person who opened the door for John at the manager's office.

0:43:09.350 --> 0:43:11.070
<v Speaker 1>And then there was the guy that did the art test.

0:43:11.469 --> 0:43:13.810
<v Speaker 1>Now it's possible if she's a Manhunter, she could have

0:43:13.830 --> 0:43:15.270
<v Speaker 1>been the guy that did the art test.

0:43:15.670 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>She also could have been undercover in the lantern space

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:21.100
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.140
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that would be interesting actually, because a lot

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.620
<v Speaker 3>of people kind of pulled on this really interesting thread online.

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.380
<v Speaker 3>about how John didn't get the lantern test until he

0:43:31.500 --> 0:43:32.540
<v Speaker 3>pursued his dream.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.969
<v Speaker 2>But that's really personal. So who would know that?

0:43:36.390 --> 0:43:38.569
<v Speaker 3>Laura Linney would know that because she's just been doing

0:43:38.630 --> 0:43:40.950
<v Speaker 3>nothing but fucking stalking this boy and his family his

0:43:40.989 --> 0:43:44.549
<v Speaker 3>whole life for whatever reason to create her own, almost

0:43:44.570 --> 0:43:47.330
<v Speaker 3>like a Superboy Prime or something. She wants her own

0:43:47.430 --> 0:43:48.690
<v Speaker 3>lantern for a reason.

0:43:49.250 --> 0:43:50.550
<v Speaker 2>I think that's really interesting.

0:43:51.050 --> 0:43:55.380
<v Speaker 3>I also want to ask you, not necessarily theorizing that mindset,

0:43:55.410 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 3>but what does the ending of this episode tell you

0:43:57.800 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 3>about where John and Hal's relationship's going?

0:43:59.820 --> 0:44:01.419
<v Speaker 2>Because he says, oh, sorry about the rent.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.150
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming he means like rental, like the car, because

0:44:04.210 --> 0:44:06.330
<v Speaker 3>he jumps out the car, leaves the car to crash.

0:44:07.090 --> 0:44:09.609
<v Speaker 2>Ostensibly he's assuming like he's not going to die. He's

0:44:09.650 --> 0:44:12.370
<v Speaker 2>a healthy big boy, but he could have killed him.

0:44:12.730 --> 0:44:14.610
<v Speaker 3>He's flying out. Do you think it's because he doesn't

0:44:14.730 --> 0:44:16.770
<v Speaker 3>trust him about the Manhunter? Do you think he's trying

0:44:16.790 --> 0:44:18.410
<v Speaker 3>to teach him a lesson? Do you think it's just

0:44:18.450 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>one of those crazy reckless how moments? What do you

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.700
<v Speaker 3>feel like this teases for episode five?

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.739
<v Speaker 1>Well, I wonder if that might be might not be

0:44:26.780 --> 0:44:29.259
<v Speaker 1>a fake out for whoever they think is watching them.

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.460
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, that's really clever.

0:44:33.500 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Like Hal saying, hey, we're not on the same team

0:44:35.500 --> 0:44:37.940
<v Speaker 3>anymore for the bug or whoever else is there.

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Because in those moments, you do get the feeling that

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:47.820
<v Speaker 1>both of them are, even kind of before they meet Hammond,

0:44:48.410 --> 0:44:52.529
<v Speaker 1>and certainly afterwards, they're aware that people are watching them,

0:44:52.570 --> 0:44:56.830
<v Speaker 1>maybe listening to the stuff they say, and... I don't know.

0:44:57.030 --> 0:44:58.190
<v Speaker 1>It remains to be seen.

0:44:58.570 --> 0:45:00.310
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't even think about that.

0:45:00.330 --> 0:45:03.220
<v Speaker 3>I think just because of episode three, I feel like

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.580
<v Speaker 3>really showed us a side of Hal that left a.

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Purposeful bad taste in the mouth. So I think this episode,

0:45:08.420 --> 0:45:10.620
<v Speaker 2>I was looking at him through more a cynical glaze.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>But I do think you're right, actually, Jason.

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>You really can hear them talk around the situation they're

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.550
<v Speaker 3>not trying to give any details they're trying to like

0:45:21.590 --> 0:45:23.930
<v Speaker 3>have a conversation and say hey I think you're fucking

0:45:23.969 --> 0:45:26.430
<v Speaker 3>me over and John being like no I'm just trying

0:45:26.450 --> 0:45:29.129
<v Speaker 3>to not like talk about it too much and then

0:45:29.170 --> 0:45:32.009
<v Speaker 3>you get that moment with Hal so the presumption would

0:45:32.050 --> 0:45:35.190
<v Speaker 3>be if somebody was watching oh Hal Jordan took the

0:45:35.250 --> 0:45:38.290
<v Speaker 3>ring he flew into space these guys maybe had an

0:45:38.390 --> 0:45:40.910
<v Speaker 3>argument and now he doesn't trust him you know I'm

0:45:40.950 --> 0:45:41.930
<v Speaker 3>guessing he's probably.

0:45:41.690 --> 0:45:44.670
<v Speaker 2>Going back to see Sinestro would be my first guess.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the other thing is clearly both of them

0:45:47.140 --> 0:45:51.299
<v Speaker 1>know more than they're letting on about the other and

0:45:51.460 --> 0:45:54.180
<v Speaker 1>also don't trust the other. It's very clear to me

0:45:54.219 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that one Hal has been living in a reality that

0:45:58.300 --> 0:46:00.450
<v Speaker 1>is completely paranoid for years.

0:46:00.550 --> 0:46:00.990
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

0:46:01.110 --> 0:46:03.650
<v Speaker 1>Where he doesn't trust the Guardians, he doesn't trust anybody

0:46:03.730 --> 0:46:06.190
<v Speaker 1>around him, and he's unsure.

0:46:06.230 --> 0:46:07.950
<v Speaker 3>Probably because of what happened with Sinestra.

0:46:08.010 --> 0:46:10.410
<v Speaker 1>Probably what's going on with Sinestra is somebody he really

0:46:10.570 --> 0:46:15.489
<v Speaker 1>loved and who was his mentor- who it turned out

0:46:15.570 --> 0:46:21.210
<v Speaker 1>was actually evil. And so now John is getting sucked

0:46:21.250 --> 0:46:24.790
<v Speaker 1>into the same kind of world where everybody around him

0:46:24.850 --> 0:46:29.149
<v Speaker 1>has an agenda. He doesn't quite know what the agenda is,

0:46:29.690 --> 0:46:33.009
<v Speaker 1>but he is very certain, as he told Zoe, who's

0:46:33.030 --> 0:46:36.130
<v Speaker 1>probably the Manhunter, that everybody around him is trying to

0:46:36.170 --> 0:46:38.350
<v Speaker 1>manipulate him and lie to him. And he knows that

0:46:38.410 --> 0:46:40.370
<v Speaker 1>Laura Linney, I think, is trying to manipulate him.

0:46:40.820 --> 0:46:41.339
<v Speaker 2>I think the.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.900
<v Speaker 3>Reason I really loved that is because the reason he

0:46:43.940 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 3>knew that was true is because he was lying to everyone.

0:46:46.739 --> 0:46:49.140
<v Speaker 3>And he was in a situation where he had to

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.739
<v Speaker 3>constantly be lying. So he knew that everyone else would

0:46:51.780 --> 0:46:55.549
<v Speaker 3>have to constantly be lying. Again, great character work on

0:46:55.710 --> 0:46:59.210
<v Speaker 3>how Jon Stewart's mind works and the way that he

0:46:59.270 --> 0:47:01.550
<v Speaker 3>kind of perceives himself and perceives other people.

0:47:01.610 --> 0:47:03.390
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that conversation with him and Zoe was

0:47:03.550 --> 0:47:04.290
<v Speaker 2>actually really great.

0:47:04.670 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 3>And I was very happy because I did think you

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 3>can't really like fridge one.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Of the only two.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's like, I think there's like four speaking women

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>characters in a Green Lantern show where the comic where

0:47:14.580 --> 0:47:17.700
<v Speaker 3>fridging was invented. So I also was immediately like, okay,

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.609
<v Speaker 3>well that seems like didn't see the body. So she's

0:47:19.630 --> 0:47:22.029
<v Speaker 3>not dead. So I'm really glad that they're kind of

0:47:22.090 --> 0:47:25.209
<v Speaker 3>leaning into that. And it's funny too, because ever since

0:47:25.270 --> 0:47:28.069
<v Speaker 3>the diner conversation, there's been a lot of speculation on

0:47:28.110 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 3>whether or not Zoe is the Manhunter, but actually it's, Sometimes,

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.980
<v Speaker 3>you know, Occam's Razor is Occam's Razor because it just

0:47:35.020 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 3>makes sense.

0:47:35.660 --> 0:47:38.180
<v Speaker 2>So if the one who's obvious is the one. But

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 2>it will be interesting to see if it could really.

0:47:41.739 --> 0:47:43.629
<v Speaker 3>If it was Will Macon, I think they would have

0:47:43.670 --> 0:47:46.830
<v Speaker 3>to have a really interesting secondary reveal for the second

0:47:46.850 --> 0:47:48.070
<v Speaker 3>half of the season. Yeah.

0:47:48.130 --> 0:47:49.870
<v Speaker 2>If it was that kind of straight down the line.

0:47:50.469 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree. And I also... To me, the fact that

0:47:55.260 --> 0:47:59.670
<v Speaker 1>we are in a flashback is so interesting now because... Yeah,

0:47:59.690 --> 0:48:01.250
<v Speaker 1>we still haven't gone back to 2026.

0:48:01.250 --> 0:48:03.150
<v Speaker 2>We still haven't gone back.

0:48:03.610 --> 0:48:07.630
<v Speaker 1>Clearly this does not get resolved now in this timeline.

0:48:07.750 --> 0:48:08.350
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't.

0:48:08.650 --> 0:48:09.330
<v Speaker 2>Oh, shit.

0:48:09.450 --> 0:48:12.870
<v Speaker 1>So when do we move forward and figure out that

0:48:12.950 --> 0:48:13.370
<v Speaker 1>part of it?

0:48:13.370 --> 0:48:14.010
<v Speaker 2>Who killed Cal?

0:48:14.370 --> 0:48:17.930
<v Speaker 1>Because it may be that whatever happens in this town,

0:48:17.989 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in fact, it seems very probable that whatever happens in

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>this town in 2016 is not the end of it.

0:48:24.980 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>And so what happens after when John and Cal go

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.969
<v Speaker 1>their separate ways? And does Jon have a ring or

0:48:33.030 --> 0:48:34.950
<v Speaker 1>not have a ring during all that time? And what

0:48:34.969 --> 0:48:36.410
<v Speaker 1>does he know about the Guardians?

0:48:36.570 --> 0:48:39.549
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and also, I guess, just for the DCU of

0:48:39.610 --> 0:48:43.569
<v Speaker 3>it all, we can probably assume that I think we

0:48:43.590 --> 0:48:45.430
<v Speaker 3>will see Guy at some point.

0:48:45.370 --> 0:48:47.009
<v Speaker 2>In the next few episodes.

0:48:47.030 --> 0:48:48.450
<v Speaker 1>How the fuck did he get the ring?

0:48:48.710 --> 0:48:50.770
<v Speaker 2>How did he get the ring? How did he get

0:48:50.810 --> 0:48:52.770
<v Speaker 2>the fucking ring? That's what we're going to find out.

0:48:52.830 --> 0:48:54.650
<v Speaker 3>I'll be interested to see if they try and do

0:48:54.710 --> 0:48:57.710
<v Speaker 3>another bottle episode, as Fillion is such like.

0:48:57.630 --> 0:48:58.590
<v Speaker 2>A TV stalwart.

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.220
<v Speaker 3>But I think that we'll definitely find out that Guy

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:03.739
<v Speaker 3>has the ring or a ring.

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.729
<v Speaker 2>The question is, is Guy the Green Lantern of Earth?

0:49:08.170 --> 0:49:10.950
<v Speaker 3>Question mark, I guess maybe because of Hal dying. Depends

0:49:10.989 --> 0:49:12.370
<v Speaker 3>when Superman took place.

0:49:12.770 --> 0:49:15.049
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it is kind of crazy that we've never

0:49:15.090 --> 0:49:16.170
<v Speaker 2>gone back to that 2026 pilot.

0:49:16.310 --> 0:49:19.850
<v Speaker 3>And we're really running out of time.

0:49:19.900 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I know there's, there's four episodes left.

0:49:22.420 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 3>So I would say maybe episode five, it would be

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.620
<v Speaker 3>interesting to see John with his little architecture board and

0:49:28.700 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Sheriff Kerry. Cause clearly the Macons are still around.

0:49:32.730 --> 0:49:33.050
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:33.370 --> 0:49:34.610
<v Speaker 2>And they still hold weight.

0:49:35.410 --> 0:49:38.490
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that, okay, let's do our top three.

0:49:38.530 --> 0:49:41.250
<v Speaker 1>Who could the man under me? I think we both

0:49:41.310 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>agree that we think it's Zoe, and certainly the show

0:49:45.890 --> 0:49:49.859
<v Speaker 1>has now revealed that that is an active suspect and

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one that both Hal and John suspect. And certainly, you know, Zoe's...

0:49:56.410 --> 0:49:59.230
<v Speaker 1>behavior just being like let's fuck i don't know.

0:49:59.110 --> 0:50:02.589
<v Speaker 3>Who you are even saying the whole like um even

0:50:02.630 --> 0:50:05.550
<v Speaker 3>the like i saved his life that sounds like her

0:50:05.570 --> 0:50:07.830
<v Speaker 3>so you could read it as she's the nurse but

0:50:07.850 --> 0:50:10.270
<v Speaker 3>you could also read it as she's the manhunter and

0:50:10.370 --> 0:50:12.609
<v Speaker 3>she cured his cancer and that would make sense why

0:50:12.870 --> 0:50:14.690
<v Speaker 3>she is allowed to do whatever she wants.

0:50:14.910 --> 0:50:17.710
<v Speaker 1>So but who else like i do you have any

0:50:17.750 --> 0:50:18.850
<v Speaker 1>other suspects.

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.049
<v Speaker 3>They say will macon I do think, I'm not going

0:50:22.070 --> 0:50:24.310
<v Speaker 3>to lie, I think they want us to think Billy

0:50:24.370 --> 0:50:24.770
<v Speaker 3>as well.

0:50:24.830 --> 0:50:27.310
<v Speaker 2>They have the same name. So I do think that

0:50:27.489 --> 0:50:29.230
<v Speaker 2>also Jason's such a.

0:50:29.310 --> 0:50:32.469
<v Speaker 3>Fun actor for them, like Ritter, to do this with

0:50:32.530 --> 0:50:34.930
<v Speaker 3>if they did want to do a big surprise reveal.

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:39.060
<v Speaker 3>And he has so much fun with the kind of

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:43.460
<v Speaker 3>like silly, unexpected sidekick roles. So I would think that

0:50:43.500 --> 0:50:45.580
<v Speaker 3>could be really interesting if they were kind of, and

0:50:45.620 --> 0:50:49.190
<v Speaker 3>she did say, I looked in Billy's files. She reminds

0:50:49.270 --> 0:50:51.630
<v Speaker 3>us that he's a junior. So I thought that could

0:50:51.670 --> 0:50:54.790
<v Speaker 3>be an interesting one. I also will say, look, this

0:50:54.850 --> 0:50:58.450
<v Speaker 3>is comic book shit. We are halfway through this.

0:50:58.510 --> 0:51:00.109
<v Speaker 2>We could have not met the Manhunter yet.

0:51:00.550 --> 0:51:02.870
<v Speaker 3>We could have not properly met them. They could still

0:51:02.890 --> 0:51:05.469
<v Speaker 3>be someone else. It would be cheap. It would be cheap,

0:51:05.489 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 3>but it does happen.

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's anyone in the background.

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Of previous episodes or like a side character that maybe

0:51:13.739 --> 0:51:16.220
<v Speaker 3>we kind of haven't dug into?

0:51:16.300 --> 0:51:18.140
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a pretty small cast.

0:51:18.540 --> 0:51:21.490
<v Speaker 1>Again, I really think Laura Linney could be the Manhunter.

0:51:21.620 --> 0:51:23.650
<v Speaker 2>Dude, that would be so crazy.

0:51:24.150 --> 0:51:25.550
<v Speaker 1>Or at least there could be two.

0:51:25.570 --> 0:51:28.470
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because we know that there's someone who's hunting

0:51:28.510 --> 0:51:31.569
<v Speaker 2>down the Manhunters. It could be another Manhunter. Like, we

0:51:31.590 --> 0:51:33.029
<v Speaker 2>don't know. They could be the one who have the

0:51:33.070 --> 0:51:33.710
<v Speaker 2>hit squad out.

0:51:34.190 --> 0:51:34.690
<v Speaker 3>So....

0:51:36.100 --> 0:51:38.819
<v Speaker 1>I'm on that corner that Laura Linney is a Manhunter.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 3>That's insane and I love it. And I also think

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:44.850
<v Speaker 3>she's acting up, bro. She's acting weird.

0:51:45.170 --> 0:51:46.410
<v Speaker 2>She's acting sus.

0:51:46.690 --> 0:51:49.710
<v Speaker 1>To your point, why doesn't she... Why are there no

0:51:49.770 --> 0:51:53.529
<v Speaker 1>other Guardians seemingly allied with her? Why did she not

0:51:53.590 --> 0:51:56.740
<v Speaker 1>know what Hal was talking to Sinestro about at the.

0:51:57.700 --> 0:51:58.259
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

0:51:58.420 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Why does she have to depend on John to tell

0:52:00.820 --> 0:52:01.300
<v Speaker 1>her that?

0:52:01.660 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And why does she have to go through John's parents?

0:52:04.140 --> 0:52:07.830
<v Speaker 3>Like you, why can't she speak to the green lantern suspect?

0:52:07.850 --> 0:52:10.710
<v Speaker 3>Like if he's the next green lantern in line, why

0:52:10.750 --> 0:52:12.549
<v Speaker 3>can't she just always be popping up to him?

0:52:12.750 --> 0:52:15.029
<v Speaker 2>Why does it always like the parents are almost like

0:52:15.070 --> 0:52:18.770
<v Speaker 2>a buffer for her? Yes. We haven't actually seen, I

0:52:18.810 --> 0:52:20.710
<v Speaker 2>have to say, this is kind.

0:52:20.510 --> 0:52:24.950
<v Speaker 3>Of a cool potential pullback if they want to, but

0:52:25.010 --> 0:52:27.900
<v Speaker 3>we really haven't seen anything about the way the lanterns

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:32.500
<v Speaker 3>are run outside of Jon and Hal and this alleged

0:52:32.540 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Laura Linney Guardian. So I will say there is a

0:52:35.940 --> 0:52:39.850
<v Speaker 3>version where the earth green lantern kind of core or

0:52:39.890 --> 0:52:41.570
<v Speaker 3>the earth section.

0:52:41.450 --> 0:52:43.990
<v Speaker 2>Has kind of been a fucking mess. And we're going

0:52:44.010 --> 0:52:45.890
<v Speaker 2>to pull back and kind of see that.

0:52:45.910 --> 0:52:48.750
<v Speaker 3>Because it's very interesting to me when you really think

0:52:48.790 --> 0:52:52.850
<v Speaker 3>about it. And obviously, narratively and budget-wise, it's probably.

0:52:52.570 --> 0:52:53.710
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of a production thing.

0:52:54.130 --> 0:52:56.700
<v Speaker 3>But to not always be showing them. But I do

0:52:56.739 --> 0:53:00.700
<v Speaker 3>feel like it is an important mystery box kind of...

0:53:01.570 --> 0:53:06.470
<v Speaker 3>component that we have yet to really have any two-factor

0:53:06.910 --> 0:53:10.830
<v Speaker 3>authentication on anything Oa related. Like we haven't even seen

0:53:10.910 --> 0:53:13.230
<v Speaker 3>another lantern. Like Guy could just show up and be like,

0:53:13.250 --> 0:53:13.910
<v Speaker 3>who the fuck are.

0:53:13.890 --> 0:53:16.069
<v Speaker 2>Both of you? I'm the Green Lantern of Earth, which

0:53:16.110 --> 0:53:17.509
<v Speaker 2>would be really interesting.

0:53:18.930 --> 0:53:22.010
<v Speaker 1>That's a great point, actually. Because we know that Hal.

0:53:21.870 --> 0:53:24.109
<v Speaker 3>Was famous at one point, right? We know that from

0:53:24.150 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 3>the TV shows, but otherwise we haven't really seen anything.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Like everything is secondhand.

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:35.109
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm excited. I'm enjoying it. This was obviously like

0:53:35.570 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 1>episode three was on a different level, special type of episode.

0:53:39.580 --> 0:53:42.779
<v Speaker 1>And now that we're back to the plot, I think

0:53:42.820 --> 0:53:45.580
<v Speaker 1>it's added a lot of really interesting depth to it,

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:52.300
<v Speaker 1>both to the Hal-John relationship and just like the overall potboiler.

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.180
<v Speaker 1>I do think Hal, I don't know if Hal is

0:53:56.010 --> 0:53:59.529
<v Speaker 1>necessarily framing it as I'm protecting John, but I think

0:53:59.590 --> 0:54:07.590
<v Speaker 1>he is wary of john either one fucking up whatever

0:54:07.670 --> 0:54:12.070
<v Speaker 1>he's involved in and two he clearly thinks that john

0:54:12.170 --> 0:54:16.710
<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand how in over his like oh definitely whatever

0:54:16.770 --> 0:54:22.230
<v Speaker 1>his talents are whatever john's clear talents are he's doesn't

0:54:22.450 --> 0:54:24.980
<v Speaker 1>know the true nature of the Guardians. I think the

0:54:25.020 --> 0:54:27.140
<v Speaker 1>way that Hal thinks that he does.

0:54:27.219 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. And he's worried about that.

0:54:28.900 --> 0:54:30.549
<v Speaker 3>You can tell how Phil's betrayed by them.

0:54:30.830 --> 0:54:31.670
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you can really tell.

0:54:31.690 --> 0:54:34.130
<v Speaker 3>And Hal can see that this is also like, they

0:54:34.170 --> 0:54:36.940
<v Speaker 3>haven't just got, John mixed up in this. They got

0:54:36.980 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>his family mixed up in this. He knows that there's

0:54:40.180 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 3>more going on there. So I do think that there

0:54:43.300 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 3>is still a reading like that. I also feel like

0:54:46.300 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>by the end of this show, we're probably all going

0:54:48.660 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 3>to be rooting for John and Hay and Hal. That

0:54:52.580 --> 0:54:55.029
<v Speaker 3>feels like where the direction of the show is going

0:54:55.110 --> 0:54:59.590
<v Speaker 3>to me. I think some of Hal's behaviors will continue

0:54:59.610 --> 0:55:00.330
<v Speaker 3>to get worse.

0:55:00.510 --> 0:55:03.089
<v Speaker 1>I think that's reductive and that's not what they're doing.

0:55:03.370 --> 0:55:04.750
<v Speaker 1>I will bet you a million dollars.

0:55:04.830 --> 0:55:08.390
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you. I think it's going to happen.

0:55:08.410 --> 0:55:10.310
<v Speaker 3>I think by the end, he's not going to be

0:55:10.390 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>very rootable for Hal Jordan.

0:55:12.450 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly not where they're going. I think

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.100
<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to say is, yes, John will be

0:55:18.180 --> 0:55:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like a much better. I think they're trying to do.

0:55:20.380 --> 0:55:24.299
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I find it very interesting because it's

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:28.730
<v Speaker 1>like guys like Hal. They just exist. We could pretend

0:55:28.750 --> 0:55:31.050
<v Speaker 1>that they don't exist and you could will them into

0:55:31.530 --> 0:55:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like close your eyes and wish that they didn't exist.

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But they do exist.

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.500
<v Speaker 2>No, they exist. But we don't root for them in

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:37.919
<v Speaker 2>real life.

0:55:38.420 --> 0:55:40.390
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think we have to root for them.

0:55:40.410 --> 0:55:44.710
<v Speaker 1>But you also have to like grapple with them somehow.

0:55:44.790 --> 0:55:48.140
<v Speaker 1>And I think. I will bet that this show is

0:55:48.500 --> 0:55:51.419
<v Speaker 1>redemptive of Hal and not like Hal's a piece of shit.

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 3>I think if it's too redemptive of Hal, I think

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 3>it will take away from the power of the show.

0:55:56.700 --> 0:56:00.860
<v Speaker 3>Because I think that he has not so far shown

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.880
<v Speaker 3>that he has learned much or changed much other than

0:56:04.940 --> 0:56:07.969
<v Speaker 3>just like slightly listening to John and asking how he is.

0:56:08.430 --> 0:56:10.529
<v Speaker 2>So I would love to see a redemptive change. I

0:56:10.570 --> 0:56:12.549
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's going to happen in four episodes.

0:56:13.010 --> 0:56:15.670
<v Speaker 3>And I do feel like they're setting up the closeness

0:56:15.690 --> 0:56:19.550
<v Speaker 3>with Hal and Sinestro and the slight behaviors of Hal.

0:56:19.690 --> 0:56:22.490
<v Speaker 2>I think they're leaning into his parallax personality. I don't

0:56:22.510 --> 0:56:23.020
<v Speaker 2>think they're going.

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 3>To go full evil, but I do think we'll end

0:56:25.700 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 3>in a situation where we have to pick John over Hal.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what they're setting up.

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's what it's going to be. I

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be Hal has a come to

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.300
<v Speaker 1>Jesus at the exact moment that he dies.

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:40.550
<v Speaker 2>Oh, just before, of course.

0:56:40.590 --> 0:56:45.470
<v Speaker 1>I think Hal's, like, whatever... However he ends up dead.

0:56:45.670 --> 0:56:49.589
<v Speaker 1>Whatever redemptive arc they do, it will be Hal choosing

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the redemptive door, and that's why he dies.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll be interested to see. I mean, we know that

0:56:54.890 --> 0:56:57.469
<v Speaker 3>there's seven screeners out there. We have not seen them, guys.

0:56:57.489 --> 0:56:58.790
<v Speaker 2>This is the last episode we have seen. We're done

0:56:58.810 --> 0:57:00.950
<v Speaker 2>with our screeners now. We're done with our screeners. Send

0:57:01.010 --> 0:57:01.529
<v Speaker 2>us three more.

0:57:01.790 --> 0:57:04.009
<v Speaker 3>As far as I know, nobody's seen that finale. So

0:57:04.050 --> 0:57:06.130
<v Speaker 3>it must be pretty crazy. And that's probably where we're

0:57:06.150 --> 0:57:08.190
<v Speaker 3>going to get a lot of these answers. But I

0:57:08.230 --> 0:57:09.890
<v Speaker 3>kind of love that this is a show that there

0:57:09.930 --> 0:57:10.330
<v Speaker 3>are so.

0:57:10.230 --> 0:57:12.810
<v Speaker 2>Many readings on. Like our Discord did not fully agree

0:57:12.830 --> 0:57:15.229
<v Speaker 2>with us. Not everyone agreed with us on episode three.

0:57:15.270 --> 0:57:16.970
<v Speaker 2>Just like a lot of people didn't agree with me

0:57:17.030 --> 0:57:19.610
<v Speaker 2>on episode one. A lot of readings on this one.

0:57:19.750 --> 0:57:21.870
<v Speaker 2>And it's getting the people talking, which we love.

0:57:22.430 --> 0:57:24.410
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to continue our coverage of Lanterns on

0:57:24.430 --> 0:57:26.150
<v Speaker 1>the next episode of X-Ray Vision. We're diving into the

0:57:26.170 --> 0:57:31.550
<v Speaker 1>second episode of Impending Doomsday, revisiting X2 X-Men United. That's

0:57:31.590 --> 0:57:32.910
<v Speaker 1>it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X-Ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Joelle Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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