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Speaker 2: Check it out, man. Welcome to the Beating the Book
Speaker 2: a megapod starring no Gil Alexander, which obviously will inflate
Speaker 2: the ratings this week. No, I'm just kidding. We love Gilly.
Speaker 2: Hilly can't be with us this week, and so we're
Speaker 2: going to have to handle it here. I'm going to
Speaker 2: put on my professionalism hat and try to move the
Speaker 2: ball forward for mister Gilly Alexander. Okay, we have with
Speaker 2: us our usual asked a will djon, a Carrington, Connecticut
Speaker 2: Fairfield man, and he is you know, you know him.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Willie?
Speaker 3: What's up boys?
Speaker 2: How's it going? And then we have a great guest
Speaker 2: this week, one of the fantastic tennis players that I
Speaker 2: was able to beat when I got thin back in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and kicked his ass even though he's
Speaker 2: a great tennis player. Ben Wilson from Vson, How are you,
Speaker 2: mister Ben Wilson.
Speaker 4: What an appropriate introduction, Todd, Thank you so much for
Speaker 4: the one time of the what eighteen occasions that we
Speaker 4: batted it out on the tennis court. You did pick
Speaker 4: the one time that you were in and I will
Speaker 4: give you credit in impeccable shape. I actually called a
Speaker 4: game at Fairfield, home of the Stags, so I have
Speaker 4: I've been up to that bubbly campus as much as
Speaker 4: I was going to give you brief about it. Two
Speaker 4: thousand and fourteen thirteen. Maybe it was a long time
Speaker 4: I was in college. It was a It was a
Speaker 4: college trip with the University of Missouri women's volleyball team.
Speaker 4: It was my first job. We had a little northeast
Speaker 4: Northeast corridor trip to open up the season. It was
Speaker 4: early September. We went out, we played Yale Fairfield. It
Speaker 4: was an awesome time out on the East coast.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Women's volleyball is a huge sport. And then you probably
Speaker 2: had at least four or five listeners during the game.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom my dad at least some of the time.
Speaker 4: If my grandma could figure out the streaming part of it, yeah,
Speaker 4: that'll be three. Yeah, you know, you got to start somewhat.
Speaker 4: That was you know, and honestly, it's it's a very
Speaker 4: fast sport, so it is. It prepares you very well
Speaker 4: for everything else, Like once you're calling college basketball and
Speaker 4: it's just absolute chaos toward the end of these games.
Speaker 4: You know, it served a good purpose.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you know, Ben Wilson is well schooled in
Speaker 2: all the different sports. You know, next thing you know,
Speaker 2: it'll be calling the miracle on ice in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: eight like al Michaels did before he began the start. Okay, anyways,
Speaker 2: let's move on to this week. I guess the first
Speaker 2: thing we always do is we talk about the Thursday
Speaker 2: night football game.
Speaker 4: Reord right records.
Speaker 2: Well, see, I was trying to.
Speaker 4: Because I'm trying to fer on the megapod. Even I
Speaker 4: know how this is supposed to work.
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm just trying to bury the records because
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the guys that are just trailing
Speaker 2: me by so far. Last week, what's interesting is I
Speaker 2: had my worst NFL week actually betting, and I had
Speaker 2: a real good two in one on the on the megapod,
Speaker 2: so that's always disappointing. But Gill and Will did not
Speaker 2: do well last week, both of them put posting a
Speaker 2: one and two record. Am I correcting that, Willie? With
Speaker 2: your we got to write for a change? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I got her right for a change. Gilly moving to
Speaker 2: twenty two nineteen and one, and he won his teaser
Speaker 2: to move to four nine and one on teasers. Will
Speaker 2: goes one and two as well to move to nineteen
Speaker 2: twenty two and one, and I have him winning his
Speaker 2: teaser as well with the Bucks and the Steelers. And
Speaker 2: then I had a nice you know, ho hum two
Speaker 2: in one, which I usually do as the leader in
Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Right now, I moved to twenty five and
Speaker 2: seventeen with a nice big two and a half game lead.
Speaker 2: I lost my teasers surprisingly with the Steelers and the Eagles.
Speaker 2: The Eagles only one by six, Is that correct? The
Speaker 2: Eagles one twenty two sixteen if I remember correctly. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I lost my teaser to go to six and
Speaker 2: eight and the guest spot which Ben Wilson will try
Speaker 2: to advance the ball for the guest spot. The guest
Speaker 2: spot did rather well, Doctor Bob again throwing in a
Speaker 2: little two and one with the Rams, the Jags and
Speaker 2: the Raiders to go to twenty two nineteen and one,
Speaker 2: and the teaser lost it goes to six and eight.
Speaker 2: So there's That's where we are on the records, and
Speaker 2: now we can move on and talk a little Thursday Dumbo.
Speaker 2: First we do the first we do Thursday Night Football discussion.
Speaker 2: Then we go to Dumbo of the week Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 2: Am I am? I right? Willy? Do we usually do
Speaker 2: it that way? Or do we do it?
Speaker 5: I'm honestly not sure. I thought it was dumb all
Speaker 5: the week then Thursday night.
Speaker 2: But I okay, fine, let's do it that way. Ben,
Speaker 2: go ahead. Do you have a Dumbo of the week.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of candidates. I heard I have
Speaker 2: obscure one, so you can give us some more non
Speaker 2: obscure one.
Speaker 4: Well, I actually was gonna go a little obscure. I
Speaker 4: just kind of assumed you guys should go with the
Speaker 4: more the obvious ones. And I know we've been ripping.
Speaker 4: Everybody's been ripping. Antonio Pierce all year to the to
Speaker 4: the degree that he had to move out of Gil's
Speaker 4: apartment complex. It's been that bad because of the pure
Speaker 4: degradation and shame. But you look at the game that
Speaker 4: and I was on the Raiders as well, along with
Speaker 4: the Doctor Bob. So that was just a miserable experience.
Speaker 4: Anytime you are backing a team that has a guy
Speaker 4: named Jess Ritter at quarterback and you need a backdoor
Speaker 4: cover touchdown, that was not fun. But like so in
Speaker 4: that game, we had probably the leading candidate for worst
Speaker 4: challenge of the year simply because like if you are
Speaker 4: at the offensive team the way the NFL, you know,
Speaker 4: just like the timing how it works, Like you could
Speaker 4: I get making a terrible challenge when you're on defense
Speaker 4: right the other team they hurry up to the line.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe you got like one quick look from
Speaker 4: up upstairs and he's telling the coach, Hey, I'm not
Speaker 4: sure if it's a situation or you know, a timescore
Speaker 4: situation sort of thing where you just kind of feel
Speaker 4: compelled to throw the challenge for like when you're on
Speaker 4: offense though, and it's like an early part of the game,
Speaker 4: you have zero excuse to just like burn a challenge
Speaker 4: and get it wrong as badly as the Raiders did.
Speaker 4: It was the second quarter. Not only did Trey Tucker
Speaker 4: not get you know what, was part of his left
Speaker 4: foot out of bounds. It wasn't like his you know,
Speaker 4: toe was on the line or it was like a
Speaker 4: sliver that barely missed. His entire foot was like nine
Speaker 4: inches out of bounds. Like it wasn't even close. And
Speaker 4: Antonio Pears just throws the challenge flag anyway, loses it.
Speaker 4: And that was the first part of this. And as
Speaker 4: always there's multiple things happened when it's an Antonio Pierce
Speaker 4: coach game. But at the end of the game, guys, okay,
Speaker 4: so you're so there's six minutes left here, you're down,
Speaker 4: you're down eleven, right, so you need two scores fourth
Speaker 4: and five of the Tampa twenty nine. And that's like,
Speaker 4: I get it. Whether you want to go for it
Speaker 4: kick the field goal, I have no issue. So they
Speaker 4: go for it with with Ritter and they somehow pick
Speaker 4: it up. Now you advance a couple of minutes later, right,
Speaker 4: So now, once you've gone for it in that situation,
Speaker 4: either you either commit to kicking the field goal or
Speaker 4: you're going for it. Well, now you're pot committed, right,
Speaker 4: you've said, okay, we're we're going for the touchdown, now
Speaker 4: the touchdown in the two to try to make it
Speaker 4: a three point game, down by eleven. Well then they
Speaker 4: get to fourth and goal at the eighth and now
Speaker 4: there's three minutes left, so they burned half the clock.
Speaker 4: And then Pierce inexplicably is like, you know what, we're
Speaker 4: good with the three, Let's just take the three. And
Speaker 4: I'm just losing my mind. Not because it meant I
Speaker 4: was going to lose the Raiders plus seven, but it's
Speaker 4: just so confoundingly stupid and such a lack of a
Speaker 4: lack of any sort of knowledge about like the timing
Speaker 4: and optimization of link game strategy, that you would then
Speaker 4: take the points there after you'd already made that decision,
Speaker 4: Like it's like if you were it's like some of
Speaker 4: those those old time like mid two thousands poker hands
Speaker 4: when the poker boom happened and you'd have guys who
Speaker 4: would you know, call like massive check raises, and then
Speaker 4: they'd get to the turn and they'd be like, you
Speaker 4: know what, actually I just fooled, Like they're pot committed
Speaker 4: like you can't just at that point, you got to
Speaker 4: just see it out. And that's essentially what happened there
Speaker 4: with the Raiders. So that was that's the dumb the week.
Speaker 2: That's not the first time he's done that exact thing,
Speaker 2: and there was another in the year. And it's funny
Speaker 2: because I also had I took the Raiders plus seven
Speaker 2: at halftime. Then they went on a ten minute drive
Speaker 2: to start the third quarter and would have would have
Speaker 2: been ahead. If they score there, they're they're inside the
Speaker 2: ten or they're inside the fifteen yard line. If they
Speaker 2: score there, they go up seventeen fourteen. I'm almost locked
Speaker 2: to win the bet, as you probably had plus six
Speaker 2: and a half. You were also probably locked up to
Speaker 2: win the bet if we if we win, and then
Speaker 2: even after that, we had opportunity after opportunity, and then
Speaker 2: that backdoor scenario with less than three minutes ago, of
Speaker 2: course we could have gone. I knew we weren't going
Speaker 2: to get it in though with with you know, deasenerator,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's bad. Okay, Willy, your your thoughts
Speaker 2: on number of the week, you have, anybody want to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 5: The Jets had the ball at the end of the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter at the plus twenty seven with a minute,
Speaker 5: just over a minute to go, where hey, you run
Speaker 5: it three times, you kick like a forty four yard
Speaker 5: field goal, and you leave.
Speaker 3: Like twenty twenty two seconds left.
Speaker 5: They lose five yards on a run, they take a sack,
Speaker 5: and then they throw the ball and Adams goes out
Speaker 5: of bounds to stop the clock, leaves Dolphins time for
Speaker 5: a field goal.
Speaker 3: Dolphins winning overtime. Just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Just a classic, just a classic one where like you know,
Speaker 2: and everyone in the NFL seems to know they've got
Speaker 2: to play the clock here at the end. In fact,
Speaker 2: so much so that I think on Monday Night football,
Speaker 2: when the Bengals receiver caught that out pattern and broke
Speaker 2: the tackle, he was going down the silence and you
Speaker 2: could see him thinking to himself, am I supposed to
Speaker 2: score here? Or am I not supposed to score here?
Speaker 2: Like everyone understands it now, and DeVante Adams goes out
Speaker 2: of bound. So that was that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: I have a similar one Rogers Way Rogers Brett Farva
Speaker 4: Garrison lineage, like we're basically all we need now is
Speaker 4: just the Rogers, you know, sex stape Dick scandal, and
Speaker 4: we're basically even with Rogers and farm with how bad
Speaker 4: the end has gone.
Speaker 2: Yes, it has fallen.
Speaker 5: Had that resurgent year in Minnesota where man he was
Speaker 5: I think he finished like second or third in MVP.
Speaker 5: The last he came back for another year in like
Speaker 5: twenty ten, he was terrible, but he did have that
Speaker 5: one great year and they, as some people know, should
Speaker 5: have gone to the super Bowl, had every opportunity to
Speaker 5: win that game. Gave it away with turnovers and he
Speaker 5: threw a bad pick late. But he did have a
Speaker 5: really good year for Minnesota. That was a good team,
Speaker 5: by the way, Percy Harvie, I will.
Speaker 2: Just I will just sorry, Ben. I will just throw
Speaker 2: in my my you know, my own pet Peeve and
Speaker 2: Dumbo of the Week, which is a similar scenario. I
Speaker 2: had two bets riding on. I had Titans money line,
Speaker 2: and I also had over twenty one and a half
Speaker 2: that I did at halftime in that game, in the
Speaker 2: same game, so I have the entire thing coming down
Speaker 2: to this drive. It's ten TOI and the Titans are
Speaker 2: driving to win the game. They're probably at like the
Speaker 2: fifteen yard line or something, and it's third down and five,
Speaker 2: and they throw the ball to Ridley's wide open on
Speaker 2: a little like bootleg play, and I have no idea why,
Speaker 2: but he goes out of bound two yards before the
Speaker 2: first time, and he could have it looked like he
Speaker 2: could have easily turned it up and got the first down.
Speaker 2: And even when he as he's walking back to the hell,
Speaker 2: you could see him saying himself, why did I do that?
Speaker 2: I think he was thinking, oh, I got to get
Speaker 2: out of bounds, and that's what caused him to forget
Speaker 2: about getting the first down. Of course, fourth and two
Speaker 2: are boy will Levis goes down the drain. So I
Speaker 2: took what is called a Willie loss, as the Titans
Speaker 2: destroyed two bets for me on that same dumbow place.
Speaker 4: So at least we're the one guy at Survivor who
Speaker 4: was on the Titans know it could have been working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, I could have been I lasted a
Speaker 2: long time in Survivor. I think less than a week. Okay,
Speaker 2: now the Yeah, the other thing we like to do
Speaker 2: is that little in game stuff. I don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of in game. Most of my in game was bad.
Speaker 2: This week. It was a very bad week, probably my
Speaker 2: worst week in the NFL all year. I guess the
Speaker 2: only thing to talk about is really that you know,
Speaker 2: when you get snake, but if you see good bets,
Speaker 2: you still got to kind of bet them. And I
Speaker 2: really didn't do a good job of that because I
Speaker 2: was getting pummeled, and so sometimes I, like, you know,
Speaker 2: get overly conservative. But the Steelers scenario was there was
Speaker 2: really a nice scenario to play them under, like thirty
Speaker 2: and a half. I believe they were up twenty seven
Speaker 2: to seven with fourteen minutes to go at their own
Speaker 2: four yard line, and you got to think they're going
Speaker 2: to be running the ball there, probably not doing too
Speaker 2: much with it, and you know, by the time they
Speaker 2: punt it and get it back, there's probably not gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of time for any scoring. And of
Speaker 2: course there wasn't, and I didn't get to win because
Speaker 2: I was so in my head about all the losing.
Speaker 2: So I guess the one thing I'll say is, you know,
Speaker 2: BET's small enough so that you're not so upset about
Speaker 2: when you're losing a couple in a row, so that
Speaker 2: you can trigger and not be overly conservative. And sometimes
Speaker 2: I do that if I'm like in an zero and
Speaker 2: three scenario that I'll start getting overly conservative and miss
Speaker 2: out on good bets. And it happens in college basketball
Speaker 2: as well, but so that that would be like the
Speaker 2: one in game tip that I would talk about for
Speaker 2: this week. You don't have anything about in game? Do
Speaker 2: you ben?
Speaker 4: One thing? I just noticed that I do the live
Speaker 4: bet I've been doing the Live bet show on Sunday,
Speaker 4: so our big thing. We'll do a lot of the
Speaker 4: second half lines. And it is fascinating to me when
Speaker 4: you get a game that is just so extreme pacing
Speaker 4: and then the whether that's to the you know, to
Speaker 4: the super up tempo or you know, to the fast
Speaker 4: or to the slow, and then you don't really see
Speaker 4: a second half adjustment. So you know, a great example
Speaker 4: was that Titan Jaguar game. That first half ended in
Speaker 4: like sixty two minutes. I mean it was like it
Speaker 4: was I want to say it was like eleven five
Speaker 4: am Pacific time. Most of the game for halftime usually
Speaker 4: get there in that like eleven thirty am Pacific window.
Speaker 4: And you know, the first time I was pulling this,
Speaker 4: the first half total was twenty is you know, dead
Speaker 4: under right. Second half they only shaded it like a
Speaker 4: half point to the Unders nineteen and a half, and
Speaker 4: we're sitting there like both of these teams are barely
Speaker 4: over four yards of play. It is just run, run, run.
Speaker 4: Neither team has any confidence in their in their quarterback.
Speaker 4: And you know, that was one of those that it
Speaker 4: took a while, but then I think better is kind
Speaker 4: of caught onto it and it did go down a
Speaker 4: little bit, but even still even closing nineteen like some
Speaker 4: of that stuff, I don't think it's properly baked in.
Speaker 4: And you saw how it played out second half. That
Speaker 4: was what six nothing Titans at halftime? I did the
Speaker 4: second half, I think it was three the exactly thing.
Speaker 4: It was three nothing.
Speaker 2: Actually at halftime they put it up eighteen and a
Speaker 2: half more twenty one and a half. I took over
Speaker 2: because I've seen this. I hear what you're saying, and
Speaker 2: it's a good point, but I've seen this too many
Speaker 2: times in NFL games where a very very low scoring
Speaker 2: first half turns into something different in the second half.
Speaker 2: So I played over, and by the way, would have
Speaker 2: won had they get had they get the end zone
Speaker 2: at the end. So it wasn't like a clean call
Speaker 2: for that under by any means, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: did win, And I take your point, but I tend
Speaker 2: to like to play those opposite of the first half,
Speaker 2: especially when they're overly extreme. But I do take your
Speaker 2: point that, hey, you know you didn't really Maybe my
Speaker 2: mistake was was not waiting long enough in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: because if it does go over, it typically goes over
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the distinctionary it's just like the length
Speaker 4: of the drives, right, like all those it would be
Speaker 4: one thing, it was just punt, punt, punt, just back
Speaker 4: and forth, three you know, replay drives and it was
Speaker 4: like eight minute, nine minutes, just these super long, matriculating
Speaker 4: drives where yeah, you knew like teams were able to
Speaker 4: move full teams are able to move. The ball was
Speaker 4: just you could tell there was zero confidence in them
Speaker 4: doing anything once they got inside, like opposing twenty five
Speaker 4: and yes, you got unlucky because you had the what
Speaker 4: like not the ten minute drive right where in the
Speaker 4: first half it was fourth and goal with to one
Speaker 4: and let it throws it out back of it or
Speaker 4: out of the back of the end zone. So that
Speaker 4: was part of it. But yeah, I just think like
Speaker 4: the length of drive sometimes gets missed a little bit
Speaker 4: and not not baked in enough for how some of
Speaker 4: these in game prices get set.
Speaker 5: I will quickly with one DraftKings and I couldn't share
Speaker 5: this in the chat Todd because they just they move
Speaker 5: so quickly and I don't know if you have access
Speaker 5: to them, but live drive props. When you see these quarterback,
Speaker 5: like the Giants, you lock or the veto completely overmatched.
Speaker 5: Next drive to punt is usually like minus one ten
Speaker 5: plus one ten. It's pretty reasonably priced, where man, if
Speaker 5: they don't turn it over and now late game in
Speaker 5: garbage time, they're going to go for it, so you
Speaker 5: stay away from it. But like the Giants, the punt,
Speaker 5: I think this week is gonna be one I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be looking for because man, they're gonna be punting a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That when you say that, it kind of reminds
Speaker 2: me of when you would text us about the baseball
Speaker 2: ones where where you guys just throwing flames and you're
Speaker 2: like one, two, three, inning is like Rynus, whatever you know,
Speaker 2: and you just know that the batters have no chance.
Speaker 2: It's it's very similar concept of what you're talking about
Speaker 2: when you see Drew Lock going three and out, three
Speaker 2: and out, three and out. It's the same idea. That
Speaker 2: is a great angle that I don't look at enough,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that you just brought it up, because
Speaker 2: that is, that is a fantastic angle, especially when you see,
Speaker 2: you know, just an overmatched offense.
Speaker 5: But you do have to worry. Hey, if I like,
Speaker 5: let's just say this week it's the Ravens. If Lamar
Speaker 5: throws a pick and the Giants take over at the
Speaker 5: plus forty, well, now you're probably not punting, so there's
Speaker 5: different moving parts to it. But as long as the
Speaker 5: field position is reasonable, punt is probably not a bad
Speaker 5: way to go. With the Giants and some of these
Speaker 5: other offenses that are completely overmatched.
Speaker 2: There's a bet to score also, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've seen that one to score on the next drive,
Speaker 2: which is which is usually a two way one. Will
Speaker 2: they'll just have will they score? Will they not score?
Speaker 2: A lot of ESPN bet has that they have also
Speaker 2: one where it's like will they cross the thirty five?
Speaker 2: Will they not cross the thirty five? Which is also
Speaker 2: another one, And I don't look at that stuff enough.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so much to look at will
Speaker 2: these in games are going. It's hard to be on everything,
Speaker 2: but that's a really good one to think about for
Speaker 2: next week. Okay, so we talked about the Dumble, the week,
Speaker 2: we talked about in game action. Now let's get to Thursday.
Speaker 2: And my first question is, does anybody have one of
Speaker 2: their official three plays on tonight's Rams Niners tilt eight
Speaker 2: fifteen Eastern in San Francisco Levi Stadium, either of I don't.
Speaker 2: Not for me, I lean.
Speaker 4: Little Niners here sub three, but it is increasingly apparent
Speaker 4: like the NFC West, it just sort of this whack
Speaker 4: a mole division. It's like good in a week to
Speaker 4: week trying to get a good sense for where these
Speaker 4: teams are at. And the Rams are just a team
Speaker 4: that scares me because I'm still not convinced that defense
Speaker 4: is really any good. The numbers pair that out, but
Speaker 4: I've seen some advanced numbers Matthew Stafford last two seasons now,
Speaker 4: since the bye week, the respective bye week for the
Speaker 4: Rams is basically playing at a top five level. And
Speaker 4: you know, you always think about the matchup here, the
Speaker 4: McVeigh shan and how you know, just the schematics there
Speaker 4: and where it plays out, but I thinking about the
Speaker 4: way San Francisco, I mean they were left for dead,
Speaker 4: kind of got off the door mat last week. The
Speaker 4: only thing keeping me off. It's like, okay, Niners were
Speaker 4: minus three and home against the Bears. Now they're basically three.
Speaker 4: I know the money's come back a little bit. It's
Speaker 4: two and a half, but you're obviously not Nobody would
Speaker 4: ever say the Rams and the Bears would be a
Speaker 4: pick them on a neutral field, so that that's where
Speaker 4: for me. It's just pricing wise. It's just been a
Speaker 4: little bit schizophrenic week to week here, especially with these
Speaker 4: Niner games and trying to figure out all the injuries
Speaker 4: and play.
Speaker 2: I actually have one of my picks for tonight's game,
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football, and you have it two and a half, correct, Willy.
Speaker 3: I'll defer I thought it was mostly three.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing you're doing. I actually I'm seeing I'm seeing
Speaker 4: like Circa, Westgate, Caesars, everywhere's too and they're just two
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 3: Give them a half points.
Speaker 4: Two and a half, you know, Teddy, I mean, if
Speaker 4: he's going total forty eight half, I'm seeing.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with the Niners minus the two
Speaker 2: and a half over the objections of my friend the
Speaker 2: whiner from Connecticut. I'm sure he had plenty of whine
Speaker 2: about on the Time article about one c from Iowa,
Speaker 2: but we won't talk about that. The Niners a minus
Speaker 2: and nine and a half, I'm going to take them,
Speaker 2: I mean my minus two and a half. I'm going
Speaker 2: to take the Niners. Yet the first game between these
Speaker 2: two teams. Now granted these aren't the same teams, and
Speaker 2: I take your point, Ben, it's a great point. The
Speaker 2: Rams do look amazing often time. They don't look great
Speaker 2: on defense to me. They don't look good great on
Speaker 2: defense at all. To me, I think the Niners. The
Speaker 2: one good thing I did last week is when I
Speaker 2: saw the Niners start moving the ball and the Bears
Speaker 2: immediately took the Niners team total over. It was the
Speaker 2: one good thing I did all last week. And the
Speaker 2: Niners to me felt like, Okay, you know, too many
Speaker 2: people have said too many bad things about us, and
Speaker 2: if you go back and look at the games, you
Speaker 2: know they weren't all that bad until of course they
Speaker 2: had to go to the backup quarterback and everything. So
Speaker 2: I just feel like the Niners are too lowly valued
Speaker 2: here and the first game between the Rams Niners, the
Speaker 2: Rams won in a miracle. The Niners completely dominated the
Speaker 2: game if you remember the game correctly, with some wacky
Speaker 2: stuff late in the game. There was missfield goals. I
Speaker 2: think there was all kind of wacky stuff and the
Speaker 2: Rams ended up winning the game. Now, granted, I think
Speaker 2: the Rams are a better team than then, and the
Speaker 2: Niners are a worse team than then. I'll agree with
Speaker 2: you on that, but two and a half points for
Speaker 2: the Niners. Now, this Rams defense is not good. Now. Granted,
Speaker 2: like I said, the Rams offense it's outstanding, but that
Speaker 2: the Niners defense, is it that bad? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just have the feeling that the Niners had, you know,
Speaker 2: last week, kind of said, hey, everybody has totally called
Speaker 2: us like we're the disaster team for this year, and
Speaker 2: maybe we want to make a statement. They did it
Speaker 2: against the big I think they're gonna do it here.
Speaker 2: And at two and a half points, I've got to
Speaker 2: take a shot on the Niners tonight. So maybe I.
Speaker 4: Remember your points out I had. I remember I had
Speaker 4: the Rams plus seven and a half in that first
Speaker 4: game that was Week three, and that you know, and
Speaker 4: you're thinking, like for the I mean, the Rams were
Speaker 4: kind of just in back door cover rage, Like I'm like,
Speaker 4: there's no way they're going to win. Can they just
Speaker 4: get a can they just get one score here to
Speaker 4: get in the back door. Next thing, you know, like
Speaker 4: five minutes later, they're winning the damn game. It was.
Speaker 4: It was totally blooky.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were down ten if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: they were down ten, and then the Niners I think,
Speaker 2: mister field goers, I can't remember, but then it looked
Speaker 2: like you were going to get the plus the back
Speaker 2: door plus seven and a half. Then then I think
Speaker 2: too to out well caught a bomb at the way
Speaker 2: end and tied it or something if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: But yeah, they.
Speaker 4: Are getting a discount. I mean, if you think if
Speaker 4: you were in even giving a full one and a
Speaker 4: half for Rams home field, which I wouldn't have, but
Speaker 4: if you flipped home field at the time, that would
Speaker 4: have been Niners minus four and a half or sorry
Speaker 4: not excuse me, the other way, Niners minus ten and
Speaker 4: a half at home. So you're telling me, now that's
Speaker 4: im Granted, yes, Am is much better than then Niners
Speaker 4: have appreciated, but that yeah, you're talking about an eight
Speaker 4: point swing there from week four. Basically, that's a little
Speaker 4: that's a little munch with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, So the number one play of the
Speaker 2: week for you, mister Ben Wilson.
Speaker 4: I am going to go to the Miami Houston game.
Speaker 4: I am seeing, Uh, I'm seeing a lot of threes
Speaker 4: versus two and a half. Tom, I am I getting
Speaker 4: the full three with Todd's up Miami.
Speaker 2: Willie, I see a lot of I see two and
Speaker 2: a half. Anthey, I'll let you make the call so
Speaker 2: that you don't cry, Uh, Willie.
Speaker 3: It depends what side he likes. What are we talking about? Dolphins?
Speaker 4: Dolphins, Dolphin, and I got I got threes that Westgate
Speaker 4: d K Caesar's sped online.
Speaker 3: I think three is more than acceptable.
Speaker 4: Okay. You know, as a loyal listener of the Megapot,
Speaker 4: will I, You're gonna I will take You're taking Miami.
Speaker 4: You're taking Miami Dolphins, Miami plus the plus D three
Speaker 4: to start things. Now, this is of all the games,
Speaker 4: this is the one game I feel like the wrong
Speaker 4: team is favored here. And I realize that a lot
Speaker 4: of the numbers you bake in the whole body of
Speaker 4: work for Miami. But when Tua has been healthy and
Speaker 4: in with his weapons, good to go on offense. I
Speaker 4: mean this team is not only is it better than
Speaker 4: Houston offense, just purely offense versus offense. I mean it's
Speaker 4: better by margin here I mean Tua and you know,
Speaker 4: because he's lefty and it looks weird that nobody ever
Speaker 4: wants to give him credit, but he's playing at a
Speaker 4: you know, when he's been healthy, he's playing at a
Speaker 4: top five level. Statistically. You look at the completion percentage
Speaker 4: over expectation EPA for play. You know, last five weeks,
Speaker 4: this offense has been a top ten unit as well.
Speaker 4: And you're now getting in the matchup to watch heres
Speaker 4: against the Houston D which has been solid top ten
Speaker 4: all year, but it's been against this is AFC South
Speaker 4: this week's schedule. They're kind of just coasting. And I'm
Speaker 4: at least I'm at the point where I view Houston
Speaker 4: as the biggest kind of fraud, theagazy team of the
Speaker 4: potential playoff teams in the AFC, as much people might
Speaker 4: look at like a Pittsburgh or at Denver, I'm just
Speaker 4: not a believer in Houston whatsoever. A part of it
Speaker 4: is the bolstering the defensive numbers against week competition, But
Speaker 4: the other part of it is Houston as the worst
Speaker 4: offensive line in football, thirtieth in run block win rate,
Speaker 4: the dead last in quarterback crush is allowed TJ Strout
Speaker 4: as a result of that, he's been a bottom five
Speaker 4: quarterback by you know, by Van numbers compared to the
Speaker 4: you know, the other qualified thirty two starting quarterbacks. And
Speaker 4: you know, you have this this Miami team who should
Speaker 4: have lost their season, should have ended. I usually like
Speaker 4: betting on those teams when they get an absolute gift,
Speaker 4: and now they've got this kind of new injection of
Speaker 4: life here continuing to play at six and seven, and
Speaker 4: they get to go indoors where it's a comfortable seventy
Speaker 4: five degrees it Mike McDaniel will not be shivering his
Speaker 4: pass off on the sidelines like he was in Lambo.
Speaker 4: So do like the spot here for Miami catching the three.
Speaker 4: I'm not really a believer at all in what Houston
Speaker 4: is doing as much as they are off eight buy,
Speaker 4: even though that sometimes tends to scare me off bets,
Speaker 4: but not concerned here. I will take the three for Miami.
Speaker 4: Two teams to meet that are pretty much.
Speaker 2: Eas Okay, so it's Miami Dolphins plus three for mister
Speaker 2: Ben Wilson. You're pick Wilson. Hilson.
Speaker 3: Am I gonna have to sing the Miami Dolphins song
Speaker 3: or you host.
Speaker 4: Dodd or yeah, Todd. I mean you you know I'd
Speaker 4: laid it out.
Speaker 3: He doesn't when you prop when he doesn't do it,
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a bitch about it. He's not gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I have an opportunity, just a second,
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Willie, Now there'll be an opportunity.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna go under forty two and a
Speaker 5: half Steelers Eagles. Steelers Unders were kind to me in
Speaker 5: the beginning of the year. I kind of got off
Speaker 5: it once once. It lost for me once. But I
Speaker 5: think this will be just typical Tom win Ball. He
Speaker 5: knows he's not the better team. So you know, field position, punts,
Speaker 5: kicking field goals, and they do have some experience against
Speaker 5: mobile quarterbacks. They played Daniels early in the year, Jade
Speaker 5: Daniels Washington, they played Lamar. Those two rushed for less
Speaker 5: than fifty yards, right around fifty yards combined, So I
Speaker 5: think they have the personnel to deal with running quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: You can't really run all over Pittsburgh like Philly likes
Speaker 5: to do. Philly had all sorts of issues throwing the ball.
Speaker 5: I forget what Hurts ended up with last week, but
Speaker 5: middle of the fourth quarter he had seventy seven yards passing.
Speaker 5: That was just a strange performance, a strange game. And uh,
Speaker 5: I just think weather could be an issue. There could
Speaker 5: be some showers in the middle of this game late
Speaker 5: Sunday night, early Sunday evening, and to me, this is
Speaker 5: just you know, no pickings possibly for the Steelers. I
Speaker 5: think you can kind of catch up to what Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: does with these, you know, throwing up these deep balls
Speaker 5: time and time again. That was not very effective last
Speaker 5: week against Cleveland, where they averaged just over four yards
Speaker 5: per play. So I'll go with like a twenty to fourteen,
Speaker 5: twenty to seventeen type of game. I know it's gone
Speaker 5: down a little bit. I'll still go under forty two
Speaker 5: and a half Pittsburgh and Philly.
Speaker 2: Ben I'll ask you, is forty two and a half
Speaker 2: fair or is it forty two this way? I don't
Speaker 2: take any he there we go.
Speaker 4: Hey, I mean, I see I mean, I see two
Speaker 4: books that have forty three, and I see three who
Speaker 4: have forty two and a half, and I see two
Speaker 4: to forty two. Forty two and a half. Fect that's right.
Speaker 4: The metaforty two.
Speaker 2: That's very we got to get probably to.
Speaker 5: Mark me down for forty And if I don't pay attention,
Speaker 5: no market is a loss.
Speaker 3: Got to keep an eye on them.
Speaker 2: It's just a way that we increase a couple of
Speaker 2: wins a year and thusly keep the first place. If
Speaker 2: you knock everybody down a point and a half when
Speaker 2: they're not paying attention, that's a great idea, and it
Speaker 2: really just tells you how important every point and a
Speaker 2: half is, especially when you're trying to win the megapot.
Speaker 2: So thank you will with that pick under forty two
Speaker 2: and a half. Looking for a sloggy Pittsburgh a Steeler
Speaker 2: Eagle game and grinded I actually a Laker. I don't
Speaker 2: there on that.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the parking situation, what they charge
Speaker 5: in Philly, but I didn't factor that into my handicapped time.
Speaker 2: Yes, and look, we don't do the parking when it's
Speaker 2: in Philly. We only do it in Pittsburgh. That's where
Speaker 2: we you know, that's where the parking can really come
Speaker 2: into effect and on a defense. But anyways, I will
Speaker 2: now do Gil Alexander's pick. And it's an interesting one,
Speaker 2: is it. And it goes a little something like this
Speaker 2: used in text ands, used in text s ands. His
Speaker 2: life is gonna be minus three. We figured it out
Speaker 2: when Ben took Miami, so Gilly can't give us any
Speaker 2: shit later on. Okay, So the Gil Alexander pick is
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans minus three against the Miami Dolphins, exactly
Speaker 2: opposite mister Ben's pick. I'm not sure what he's thinking
Speaker 2: because I kind of like Ben's pick at three. Will
Speaker 2: would you like to make a you know, give a
Speaker 2: glimmer of idea as to what mister Gilly Alexander is
Speaker 2: thinking here and going Houston minus three because I agree
Speaker 2: with Ben.
Speaker 5: My guess is he's not a believer in the Miami defense.
Speaker 5: They got lucky to beat the Jets last week. The
Speaker 5: Texans are off a bye, they can maybe regroup, and
Speaker 5: he thinks this line is a little short, and I
Speaker 5: think a lot of Gills picks come down to He
Speaker 5: does this exercise where he guesses the lines without looking
Speaker 5: at them. And if there's a discrepancy, he plays his instincts.
Speaker 5: And his instincts have served him well. So my guess
Speaker 5: is that's why he's going with the Texans. His picks,
Speaker 5: by the way, Gills picks just for entertainment purposes. Only
Speaker 5: this week he will be taking and O and three.
Speaker 5: He did not submit his three picks in our group
Speaker 5: chat in time, so owing three officially for Gilly tough.
Speaker 2: Listen, we don't need to Willie. We don't need to
Speaker 2: give him an otheran three. We can give him his
Speaker 2: regular score. He still ain't gonna catch up, so it's
Speaker 2: all good.
Speaker 4: Uh do you feel like on Will's point? Though, there
Speaker 4: are a lot of folks out there, I'm sure saw
Speaker 4: that line and they're like, really, Houston only three, Like,
Speaker 4: shouldn't that be you know, shouldn't that be higher for
Speaker 4: a division leading team at home versus six and seventeen? Like?
Speaker 4: I get I get it. I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go back to mister Ben Wilson for
Speaker 2: pick number two. Go ahead, Benny, all right, pick number two.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the Tampa Bay LA Charger game.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing this is three basically everywhere, right.
Speaker 2: Guys, that's what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: Three Yeah, I will. I will take the three points.
Speaker 4: With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, there was some news coming
Speaker 4: out yesterday justin Herbert he's dealing with a Lake contusion
Speaker 4: Niche swelling. I'm not great for an already non explosive
Speaker 4: offense to begin with, and this Charger team, they're coming
Speaker 4: off with super physical, grinded out game against the Chiefs
Speaker 4: that they should have probably won the game in or
Speaker 4: at least we're very live to win out right Sunday night.
Speaker 4: But more than anything, I'm early betting against the Chargers
Speaker 4: here for a team that as they have seen a
Speaker 4: step up in class in their opposing competition. The defensive
Speaker 4: numbers which were so so good to start the year
Speaker 4: and definitely felt at a little bit inflated by the competition,
Speaker 4: well that's come back down to They're twenty third on
Speaker 4: EBA for play defense the last five weeks as they
Speaker 4: faced better offenses, and the offense does not have much
Speaker 4: explosion on the Chargers side of it. We saw that,
Speaker 4: especially with the wide receiver Lad McConkie out last week,
Speaker 4: even though I expect him to go this week playing
Speaker 4: less than one hundred percent Herbert, even if he does
Speaker 4: go probably less than one hundred percent, And you now
Speaker 4: get a Tampa team that's really turning the quarter. They're
Speaker 4: playing good football right now. They are top ten on
Speaker 4: defense last five weeks after they were just a dumpster
Speaker 4: fire with all their injuries on the d line the
Speaker 4: first part of the year. So the one thing you
Speaker 4: can do against Tampa still is pass the ball deep
Speaker 4: down field, and the Chargers don't have any sort of
Speaker 4: explosiveness to really take advantage and counteract that. Tampa's strength
Speaker 4: is in the run d So I do like that
Speaker 4: angle for Tampa. Here is a top ten rush defense,
Speaker 4: and with the way their offense is playing indoors Mike
Speaker 4: Evans back and fully healthy wide receiver, and the way
Speaker 4: the Charger defense has been trending to the negative, this
Speaker 4: is a total coin flip game for me. You can't
Speaker 4: give the Chargers of full home field advantage here, they
Speaker 4: just don't have it. It's one and a half is generous,
Speaker 4: and I make the teams basically dead. Even so, again,
Speaker 4: I think this is a good position here for Tampa,
Speaker 4: who they know they've got. They've got a great opportunity
Speaker 4: here to to seal that NFC South. I think they're
Speaker 4: up to minus two thirty five or so to win
Speaker 4: the division and playing really good ball right now. So
Speaker 4: I'll take the bucks plus the three.
Speaker 2: For those of you wondering who when Ben said there
Speaker 2: might be injuries to mister Herbert, who the backup is,
Speaker 2: it's Taylor Heinike and then after him Easton Stick. Great
Speaker 2: name for a quarterback in the National Football League, Easton Stick.
Speaker 2: So that's the Heineke Stick Show after Herbert. If Herbert
Speaker 2: is banged around, So that'll be interesting. Ben, your second.
Speaker 4: Pick also would be my third pick. All right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Will, No, no, no, I'm sorry. Will. You're saying my bet,
Speaker 2: my bet. Sorry. I'm trying. You know, it's not easy
Speaker 2: being professional running the show, also coming up with you know,
Speaker 2: fun anecdotes and information. You know, it's it's very difficult
Speaker 2: what I'm being asked to do here. But go ahead, Will.
Speaker 3: Judge Jags. What do we have for that line?
Speaker 2: Jets Jags? He asked us before, so we can't screw
Speaker 2: them out of it. Let's see, Jets, Jags. We've got
Speaker 2: I've I see a lot of I see about the
Speaker 2: three and a half. What do you think mister ben.
Speaker 4: Yeah, consensus, looks like my last play was going to
Speaker 4: be the Jaguars. You'll see full goes there. I've seen
Speaker 4: Jets minus three and a half. Forty and a half
Speaker 4: is the total.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'll stay away from that one. I'll go Cleveland plus four,
Speaker 5: I believe is the consensus there. I'm a little concerned
Speaker 5: that I haven't really benefited profited from this Kansas City
Speaker 5: slump streak of just not covering spreads and maybe a
Speaker 5: little bit late to the party. But we've seen Cleveland
Speaker 5: play up in these scenarios. They beat Baltimore at home,
Speaker 5: they beat Pittsburgh at home. They'll be motivated for the
Speaker 5: fact that it is the Chiefs on the Chiefs just man,
Speaker 5: their secondary is a mess, offensive line issues, and they
Speaker 5: just kind of slog their way through these games. Win
Speaker 5: by a field goal, take their winning go home. So
Speaker 5: I don't love it, but I will take Cleveland here
Speaker 5: plus the four.
Speaker 2: Kansas City on a one two, three, four, five, six
Speaker 2: seven game against the spread losing streak in which they've
Speaker 2: gone six wins and only one loss to the Josh
Speaker 2: Allen fourth and two Buffalo Bills won them all but
Speaker 2: did not cover any of them in that period, So
Speaker 2: that's quite interesting. Hopefully, Willie, they don't get a turnaround
Speaker 2: cover this week. I feel like that that whole thing
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs just slogging to wins and not covering
Speaker 2: has to come to it soon. But I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to come to an end against the Chargers
Speaker 2: and it didn't. So you know, maybe you can get
Speaker 2: one more week out of it.
Speaker 5: Which part is going to come to an end quicker
Speaker 5: where they get by these wins and they win but
Speaker 5: they don't cover, or are they actually going to like
Speaker 5: flirt with disaster and lose.
Speaker 3: One of these games which they've also been close to.
Speaker 3: So I don't know which one they're more due.
Speaker 2: For, right well, that could be the other side of it, right,
Speaker 2: six and one during those seven Okay, So I'll pick
Speaker 2: my second pick now, and I'm gonna go with I mean,
Speaker 2: I hate this board. I say this every week, but
Speaker 2: I really hate this board. Arizona Cardinals. What do you
Speaker 2: have for the total? Will it is?
Speaker 5: I'm seeing mostly forty six, but I know what the
Speaker 5: Cardinals you like to bet over, so we'll call it
Speaker 5: forty seven forty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Maybe No, I'm seeing mostly forty ten.
Speaker 4: Then then I corroborate, h, yes you will. It's forty
Speaker 4: six painted everywhere pretty much.
Speaker 2: So we'll go forty seven and a half. Excellent. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding under forty six. Then you said forty six.
Speaker 2: Right under forty six, I'm going to go under here.
Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots have had a number of games
Speaker 2: where they've gone over here recently, and I just feel like,
Speaker 2: are they really good enough to keep having these over games.
Speaker 2: I think their last under was the nineteen to three
Speaker 2: game against the Bears. I could be wrong about that.
Speaker 2: I could tell you that right now. The Bears played
Speaker 2: them nineteen to three. I think it was four weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Let's see it was New England. Yeah, that was four
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Since then, they've gone over against the Rams
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty two, over against Miami thirty four to fifteen,
Speaker 2: and over in the Indianapolis over forty one, and that
Speaker 2: in the last game they played. I just feel we
Speaker 2: might see a return to normalcy in the Patriots games
Speaker 2: where we'll see a lot of running. And I feel
Speaker 2: like we're gonna see more running out of the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: because when the Cardinals were really starting to light it up.
Speaker 2: It was a lot with James Connor on the ground,
Speaker 2: and they were just grinding the wins and playing good
Speaker 2: defense like they did again and that Bears win. I
Speaker 2: believe they won like twenty nine to nine or something
Speaker 2: like that. But I just have a feeling that this
Speaker 2: pat this run of Pats overs is a little overdone.
Speaker 2: And to see a number like forty six on a
Speaker 2: Pats game, just to me, it feels too high. And
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, there's reason for it. You know,
Speaker 2: the last three games that the Patriots games have been,
Speaker 2: they've been good on offense and haven't really been stopping people,
Speaker 2: and that's probably why the line got up this high.
Speaker 2: But you know, we've seen a number of Cardinal games
Speaker 2: that have been you know, that game against the Charges.
Speaker 2: I believe it was like seventeen sixteen or something, and
Speaker 2: the Pats, you know, typically want to run the ball
Speaker 2: a lot and not you know, expose Drake may too bad,
Speaker 2: although he's been pretty good. So I just have a
Speaker 2: feel here that the Patriots can't keep going over. And
Speaker 2: at forty six, it's just to me, it's just too
Speaker 2: high for a Patriots game. So I'm gonna go under
Speaker 2: forty six in the Pats game. For my second pick, now,
Speaker 2: I will give you Gil Alexander, our fearless leader who
Speaker 2: cannot be with us today. His second pick is the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions minus the two and a half. Guys, would
Speaker 2: you like to venture as to why mister Gil Alexander
Speaker 2: likes the Lions minus two and a half in this
Speaker 2: huge showdown? I mean, this is as big as they
Speaker 2: get Lions Bills four to twenty five on Sunday. This
Speaker 2: is Appointment TV. You better be there for this one. Guys,
Speaker 2: why would mister Gil Alexander like the Lions minus two
Speaker 2: and a half?
Speaker 5: Well, Gilly was against the Bills last week and he
Speaker 5: is stutely pointing out that the Bills have a vulnerability
Speaker 5: against the run to let you running on him and
Speaker 5: Detroit off of a rest here has a really good
Speaker 5: running game. And again with Gilly, a lot of times
Speaker 5: it's just the blink test of what do you think
Speaker 5: the line is going to be? What is the actual line?
Speaker 5: And he plays it accordingly. So my guess is that's
Speaker 5: why he's going to lay it with Detroit. He probably
Speaker 5: expected the line to be three or three and a
Speaker 5: half and thinks this line is a little short. Again,
Speaker 5: we wish Gil luck on his picks, but if this
Speaker 5: does win, it will be vacated.
Speaker 4: I also do wonder too the I mean, we've had
Speaker 4: to downgrade Detroit for all the defensive injuries, but even
Speaker 4: despite that, I mean, I just look at the last
Speaker 4: month or so, there's still i mean, defensively per play
Speaker 4: and some of this has to do with turnovers, but
Speaker 4: they've still been performing at a really high level. Like
Speaker 4: the drop off has not been maybe as stark as
Speaker 4: better as they're sort of baking into here. And as
Speaker 4: a result of that, Buffalo will point it out with
Speaker 4: the defense as bad as it has been, especially indoors
Speaker 4: here Detroit with the extra ress, Like I certainly thought
Speaker 4: three would have been a fair number, and you are
Speaker 4: getting somewhat of a discount here. So I feel like
Speaker 4: we've see this happen. Though sometimes when it's sort of
Speaker 4: like that, like that say, groups think, but when you
Speaker 4: start to see line to move against the team because
Speaker 4: it's you know, cluster injuries, and then people kind of
Speaker 4: pick up on it and they're like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 4: I guess that makes a lot of sense. Let's start
Speaker 4: betting against them. And then Detroit just finds either push
Speaker 4: or with the exception of the Bears game of course,
Speaker 4: the one time I'm on them put you know, push
Speaker 4: or cover basically every single week, so I think that
Speaker 4: sometimes tends to happen here where we kind of forget,
Speaker 4: like Detroit is so uniquely built to overcome a lot
Speaker 4: of that. I understand why it would be on it.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a great game. It's a total kind
Speaker 4: of one of my games out I don't want to
Speaker 4: be a part of, just because I think both teams
Speaker 4: have a lot going for them and a lot to
Speaker 4: play for here, so I'll stay away, but I definitely
Speaker 4: lean Detroit.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because the I believe this is the highest total.
Speaker 2: Will you can correct me if I'm wrong? Is this
Speaker 2: the highest table? Now? Fifty would you say?
Speaker 5: It's got to be the highest total and the highest
Speaker 5: total probably by two or three points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty four and a half I think is the
Speaker 2: highest total we've seen this year. And doesn't this just
Speaker 2: scream what will happen here? Is what'll be ten to three?
Speaker 2: Late second quarter? You know, because everybody thought, oh it's
Speaker 2: going over. They saw the Bills game against the Rams
Speaker 2: last week forty four to forty two. They saw the
Speaker 2: lines with their crazy offense, it scores a million points,
Speaker 2: and everyone's saying, oh my, how can it go under?
Speaker 2: It has to go over, right, It'll be ten three,
Speaker 2: like four minutes left in the second quarter, and then
Speaker 2: the points will explode in a will like land, like
Speaker 2: fifty or something, you know, and it'll be a great
Speaker 2: in game opportunity if you can, if you can take
Speaker 2: a discounted line on the over that that just to
Speaker 2: me a lot of times that's what happens on these
Speaker 2: gigantic overs, when when you everybody thinks it's gonna be over,
Speaker 2: and then they've made adjustments to start the game to
Speaker 2: slow them down, and then somehow it picks back up.
Speaker 2: But especially with.
Speaker 5: A total that high, if you have a four or
Speaker 5: five minute drive and it kind of fizzles out and
Speaker 5: then he punt down to like, you know, the five,
Speaker 5: and then there's another three or four minutes, all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, you know, you look up, there's five minutes
Speaker 5: left in the first quarter. It's almost impossible to get
Speaker 5: to such a high number. And especially if Campbell has
Speaker 5: one of these you know, aggressive of streaks in him
Speaker 5: where he goes for a fourth and goal from the
Speaker 5: two or the three doesn't get it, then you know
Speaker 5: Buffalo's backed up. It's just everything kind of has to
Speaker 5: go right to get one of those totals. If they
Speaker 5: do have a slow like a slow star offensively and
Speaker 5: the total dips, I would be looking to jump in
Speaker 5: over because I do think it is.
Speaker 3: A good matchup for both offenses here.
Speaker 4: How many Yeah, it plays such a premium on the
Speaker 4: red zone performance. So yeah, your margin for so is
Speaker 4: so small. I was going to point out first quarter total.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to see some ten and a half stop
Speaker 4: and they'll be juiced under. But like even if you
Speaker 4: take it, you know, ten at like under even money,
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a pat to play whatsoever. It
Speaker 4: be super hype games, and all we're talking about to
Speaker 4: the edge is it's it's running the wall. So you
Speaker 4: figure that clock is going to be moving, especially early.
Speaker 4: I would not would not mind that whatsoever, And then
Speaker 4: set yourself up a little in game over there that
Speaker 4: think dips back into the into the low fifties.
Speaker 2: Three. Okay, So that's Gilly's second pick the lines minus
Speaker 2: the two and a half, and we go to my
Speaker 2: friend Ben Wilson for pick number three.
Speaker 4: Well, I will go to I think I teased it earlier,
Speaker 4: the New York Jetropolitans and the Jacksonville Jaguars and all
Speaker 4: that will do the rebuttal of the second because I
Speaker 4: think will you were prepared to go Jets minus three?
Speaker 4: If if I'm reading the body language correctly, okay, so
Speaker 4: I will take I will take the three to a
Speaker 4: half with Jacksonville. And we're at a point where, looking
Speaker 4: at just numbers, the last month and a half or so,
Speaker 4: no defense has been worse on a per play basis
Speaker 4: than the New York Jets. I can't help a wonder too.
Speaker 4: Like you play this game against Miami. They clearly got
Speaker 4: up for the game. We're live. Should have have won
Speaker 4: that game, probably should have won the game. And I
Speaker 4: thought Miami was completely dead in the third quarter of
Speaker 4: that game. But when you see the way the Jets
Speaker 4: continued time and again, unable to play a full sixty minutes, really, no,
Speaker 4: you know, no life defensively, still a terrible tackling team.
Speaker 4: And now you go like it's a second straight week
Speaker 4: staying down in Florida on the road. Where's the motivation
Speaker 4: really for a team that's completely dead against now a
Speaker 4: jacksonvilleam who was sort of weird. They don't fire Doug
Speaker 4: Peterson yet, they've they're kind of playing a hard form
Speaker 4: even though everybody knows he'll be gone at the end
Speaker 4: of the year. It's a very young team. They're playing
Speaker 4: for jobs next season. Mac Jones knows kind of his
Speaker 4: last gasp to make any sort of statement that he
Speaker 4: should still be on an NFL field. I don't think
Speaker 4: he should be. He probably won't, but he at least
Speaker 4: has that opportunity right now. Jacksonville can at least run
Speaker 4: the ball relatively relatively efficiently. That's been the strength here
Speaker 4: at I like Tank Bigsby is a hard runner, and
Speaker 4: this you figure this will be a It's a forty
Speaker 4: and a half total, so low scoring, close to the
Speaker 4: best sort of game where I don't see any either
Speaker 4: offense producing a ton of explosives. So if I'm getting
Speaker 4: the three in the hook at home here with Jacksonville,
Speaker 4: who very quietly have covered back to back games as
Speaker 4: home underdogs, and it's as the same price as and
Speaker 4: granted the same price as the Houston game. Jacksonville was
Speaker 4: three and a half point dogs against Houston at home,
Speaker 4: the caveat being Trevor Lawrence was expected to play and
Speaker 4: did play in that game, So I get it. You
Speaker 4: can't make it a total apples to Apple's comparison there,
Speaker 4: But Jacksonville the kind of that as a team a
Speaker 4: little bit to feisty now that they're totally dead and
Speaker 4: have nothing to play for. So I will take the
Speaker 4: hook with them as we are running out of weaks
Speaker 4: gentlemen to bet against the New York Jets team, even
Speaker 4: if will disagree with me?
Speaker 2: Here is it me? First? Do you want I want
Speaker 2: to disagree with them? No?
Speaker 5: I just I feel like it is such a typical
Speaker 5: Jets move to win a game or two here and
Speaker 5: just screw up their draft position after a miserable year
Speaker 5: Jets fans three. Yeah, that's why the hook is keeping
Speaker 5: me off. And if it were three, I would lay
Speaker 5: it with the Jets, because I do you think will?
Speaker 2: You guys are aware that Mac Jones is the quarterback
Speaker 2: and by the way, they had no business winning that
Speaker 2: game against Tennessee. Regardless of what happened at the end,
Speaker 2: they should have been down ten nothing early the game
Speaker 2: would have been over. But Mac Jones is the quarterback. Uh,
Speaker 2: he does not have the Alabama offensive line, so I'm
Speaker 2: just one of their receivers.
Speaker 4: Todd, how did you like Doug Peterson kicking a field
Speaker 4: goal fourth and fourth of Tennessee five down six to
Speaker 4: nothing when you're you're two and ten against the three
Speaker 4: and nineteen. That was that was freaking hilarious, Like what, like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? So Doug, Doug Peterson plays for
Speaker 4: the cover man?
Speaker 2: That's all I know, God, Dougie. Okay, Willy, it's your
Speaker 2: third pick. I am going to get back, actually WILLI
Speaker 2: but Willy, before we do your third, let's do Gilly's third,
Speaker 2: and then you guys can comment on this third and
Speaker 2: then you do your third. Let's do Gilly's pick. Is
Speaker 2: the care Relina Panthers? I believe it's two and a
Speaker 2: half most places. Is that correct?
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a lot of threes. But if we're going
Speaker 3: to go two and a half, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you tell me what what's the first?
Speaker 4: I see five two and a halfs and three three,
Speaker 4: So I think that's perfect still half CareLine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Gilly, we're giving you the extra half point.
Speaker 2: Don't start crying when we Yeah, just so the listeners know.
Speaker 5: Todd did just send me a text fifteen minutes before
Speaker 5: the show that hey, I'm not going to mention on
Speaker 5: the air, but let's try and.
Speaker 3: Screwgill on these lines. So I'm just doing the Tod.
Speaker 2: But we're not screwing him. So you told me to
Speaker 2: screw You told me we should try to screw I
Speaker 2: definitely did that. That's my friend Will. Okay. So Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers minus two and a half. I guess he just
Speaker 2: feels like, Hey, this Carolina Panthers has turned the corner
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden there's a decent team and
Speaker 2: you know the Cowboys. What is there to say about
Speaker 2: the Cowboys there? You know, dumpster fire your guys thoughts
Speaker 2: on on Gillies Carolina two.
Speaker 5: And a half, I agree with it. That's going to
Speaker 5: be my third pick. I thought it was split between three.
Speaker 5: The first couple I checked, We're three. That's why I
Speaker 5: thought that was you know, that's a key number at three.
Speaker 5: I thought it was too expensive. But Dallas just had
Speaker 5: any hope, and they did have hope. If you heard
Speaker 5: Parsons after the Thanksgiving game, Hey we're going to make
Speaker 5: a run. We're coming You know we can win out
Speaker 5: and make the playoffs, that kind of thing. And they
Speaker 5: had a chance to beat Cincinnati. They should have beat
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati to lose in that fashion. Now you have
Speaker 5: a short week on the road against the Panthers team
Speaker 5: that's playing inspired, they have some enthusiasm, a young coach,
Speaker 5: a young quarterback, where hey, let's win some games, let's
Speaker 5: build towards next year. I just think Carolina has played
Speaker 5: pretty well here. It doesn't feel comfortable laying points with
Speaker 5: a team that's been this bad for this long, but
Speaker 5: since two and a half, I will lay here with
Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers, and boy, they should have won that
Speaker 5: game against the Eagles last week.
Speaker 2: Let's be fair. If the guy catches the ball, which
Speaker 2: I thought he you know live, you didn't really see
Speaker 2: that he bobbled it. It sure looked like.
Speaker 5: Five seconds for Philly to get in field goal range.
Speaker 5: And there were a couple of times where Philly I
Speaker 5: thought could have given them the knockout punch. They just
Speaker 5: got really conservative and they don't trust their kicker, and
Speaker 5: that game was a little weird on both ends. But yes,
Speaker 5: you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: If there was Carolina, if there was ever a game
Speaker 2: thirty years from now and we do the documentary on
Speaker 2: NFL point Shaving, we will definitely be looking at that
Speaker 2: football game. Eagles minus I believe they were fourteen or
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I gave they were one of my picks
Speaker 5: on the megapot at twelve and happened he closed it
Speaker 5: and yeah, never never a chance although were it was?
Speaker 4: It was what third and four at the thirty four
Speaker 4: and that was when Philly is up six and Sirianni
Speaker 4: for whatever, like, you have the worst run defense basically
Speaker 4: ever on the other side, there's no physicality for Carolina.
Speaker 4: You passed it was you passed third and four incomplete,
Speaker 4: and then you settle for a field goal when you
Speaker 4: have a shaky kicker and you know it's swirling wind
Speaker 4: out doors like it. None of it added up. It
Speaker 4: made zero sense. It was a yeah, I'm sorry, goo ahead.
Speaker 4: I thought you were done talking about Well just just
Speaker 4: for a guy who's been so so soaked on the
Speaker 4: aggressive scale and then to pick that spot against the
Speaker 4: set you know, this the sad, bad Carolina bottom five
Speaker 4: team to suddenly get super conservative. It just did not
Speaker 4: make anything.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you guys were watching, but
Speaker 5: I thought I was going to get lucky and get
Speaker 5: a little front door cover because Carolina had like third
Speaker 5: and eleven on their own one or two, and we
Speaker 5: were still north of a two minute warning. Like, man,
Speaker 5: they can't They probably can't punt here if they do
Speaker 5: one of these you know, four and out turnover on downs,
Speaker 5: maybe Philly punches one inbaby would have gone for two.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they would have. So it was interesting where
Speaker 5: Philly had their chances to cover. But you your point
Speaker 5: as well, taken Toddy.
Speaker 2: That game was a microcosm of my entire week. I
Speaker 2: had Saquon over twenty and a half carries and he
Speaker 2: ended up with twenty exactly. So that was basically a
Speaker 2: microcosm of everything that could go wrong went wrong. So anyways, okay,
Speaker 2: everybody's given three picks, including our friend Gil Alexander. I
Speaker 2: will now give my third pick, and it's going to
Speaker 2: be that same football game. It's interesting, what do you
Speaker 2: guys have for the over under? I'm seeing forty three.
Speaker 4: Three forty three basically everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm going to go over the forty three
Speaker 2: here in this Carolina Panther game against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I think Carolina's offense has improved a lot. We've just
Speaker 2: been talking about it, and you know, they've they've They
Speaker 2: don't look like the Carolina Panthers of early in the season.
Speaker 2: They look like a real team. They can actually move
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit. I'm not impressed with Dallas's
Speaker 2: defense ever since the complete collapse, or actually for that matter,
Speaker 2: they've been bad all year. I mean, who who do
Speaker 2: they really play well defensively against? The Cowboys don't really
Speaker 2: play well defensively. And then on the other side of
Speaker 2: the ball. It's not like Carolina's defense has been the resurgence.
Speaker 2: The resurgence has been the offense. The defense is still pretty,
Speaker 2: you know, not great. So I don't see why Cooper
Speaker 2: Rush and the Boys, you know, can't you know, get
Speaker 2: some points going here? Maybe can can they get us
Speaker 2: to twenty and if we get twenty four to twenty
Speaker 2: Carolina or twenty four to twenty one Carolina or twenty
Speaker 2: four to twenty one Cowboys, I just feel like over
Speaker 2: forty three is doable. Now that Carolina has what you
Speaker 2: would call a normal offense, you know, I don't see
Speaker 2: why they can't score the ball against the Cowboys, especially
Speaker 2: they're at home, and you know, again, Carolina's defense is
Speaker 2: not exactly you know, the eighty five Bears. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to go over forty three Carolina for my third pick.
Speaker 4: That five game cover streak for the Panthers. I found
Speaker 4: this fascinating. The Carolina is actually fourteenth in total offense
Speaker 4: in that span, which is just if you were to
Speaker 4: have told us a week six the Carolina would have
Speaker 4: a five week span, would it be a top fifteen offense,
Speaker 4: We'd be like, no way. But that's that is pretty
Speaker 4: telling where this is a team is turned.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's the end of all the picks. Now
Speaker 2: we go to the teaser category, Ben, our best six
Speaker 2: point two team teaser. Please, we've not been good this
Speaker 2: year on the teasers after having a unbelievable year last
Speaker 2: year when I was in first place at thirteen and
Speaker 2: five and teasers and everybody else did really well as well. Ben,
Speaker 2: can you give us a good two team six point teaser?
Speaker 4: I will. I Honestly, I don't know about you, guys.
Speaker 4: I feel like part of I've had a decent year
Speaker 4: in NFL's year, in part of it is I have
Speaker 4: not playing teasers anymore. I think a portly is because
Speaker 4: we've just gotten priced out of it in Vegas. Like
Speaker 4: the pricing sucks now you just can't It's like minus
Speaker 4: one thirty minimum. There's just no point. So in a
Speaker 4: weird way, that's kind of saved my season. That's maybe
Speaker 4: a side point for a different discussion, but I will
Speaker 4: go Washington Commanders Gil Alexander's Commanders down to the minus
Speaker 4: one and a half in New Orleans with a team
Speaker 4: it was a great spot to have a buy in
Speaker 4: to me for Washington with being tied to the latest
Speaker 4: bye week of the year, with a young team, super
Speaker 4: banged up, time to regroup. Now you are getting with
Speaker 4: either the Spencer Rattler or the Jy Cayner experience indoors
Speaker 4: for New Orleans, I think we've seen the true colors
Speaker 4: of what the Saints team actually is after they got
Speaker 4: the brief, the brief coaching bump with the Darren Rizzy
Speaker 4: interim with the special teams coordinator getting the bump up.
Speaker 4: But this is a good spot here for Washington, still
Speaker 4: with a lot to play for trying to lock up
Speaker 4: one of those wild card spots in the NFC. So
Speaker 4: Washington to me, I do have confidence they win the game,
Speaker 4: and then I'll pair them with the Tennessee Titans. I
Speaker 4: will go, may make sure this is a non long
Speaker 4: teaser to upset the mass book. So I'll go Tennessee
Speaker 4: plus eleven against Cincinnati at home. And it's really fascinating
Speaker 4: the coaching comparisons here where Brian Callahan and Zach Taylor,
Speaker 4: their staffs are both super intertwined. You know, Callahan came
Speaker 4: over from Cincinnati. Him and I saw the report the
Speaker 4: other day. Like him and Zach Taylor text like every
Speaker 4: day basically, or at least like multiple times a week,
Speaker 4: so there's a ton of familiarity Cincinnati. Anytime you can
Speaker 4: get double digits against the team who has an awful
Speaker 4: defense and can't stop anybody, and is also coming off
Speaker 4: a short week and whose quarterbacks home was just broken
Speaker 4: into and who is somewhat banged up with pat ankle
Speaker 4: and wrists, stuff still kind of lingering for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: I at least do believe Tennessee can keep this within
Speaker 4: a double digit margin. So I'll go Commander's minus one
Speaker 4: and a half Titans plus eleven.
Speaker 2: Now that it's interesting that you said that, because the
Speaker 2: girl who is is she the security guard or is
Speaker 2: she the girlfriend or is she the I'm not what
Speaker 2: is her cat wory exactly?
Speaker 4: As an investigative journalist, I should be on metobe to
Speaker 4: figure this out.
Speaker 3: It appeared as podcast at all, Ben like, how do
Speaker 3: you not know this? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Based on the the Joe Burrow press cops on the
Speaker 4: other day, I'm going to go in the limit say
Speaker 4: he was not thrilled with that information that came out,
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 2: But what But my question is was this his girlfriend
Speaker 2: or is this his security guard or is this just
Speaker 2: his friend friend?
Speaker 4: I'm not I don't know. I think we I think
Speaker 4: we categorize it as they have been friends for a
Speaker 4: while and who knows what else is going on behind
Speaker 4: the scenes.
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. That sounded like a d
Speaker 2: jon a Carrington remark right there.
Speaker 4: But anyway of course, to leave at the top to
Speaker 4: go to that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, leave it to me to go to the
Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel. Good job by me. Okay, Willie
Speaker 2: your best two T team teaser or any thoughts on
Speaker 2: NFL players security at their houses.
Speaker 5: I'll use Washington like my friend Benjamin, I'd be surprised
Speaker 5: if they didn't win this game. They still kind of
Speaker 5: need to win because if they ever tripped up and
Speaker 5: lost this game, it's not like they're a lot to
Speaker 5: make the playoffs. So they need this game. And the
Speaker 5: Saints are just a mess right now. So Washington will
Speaker 5: be the first one. There's a lot of options here.
Speaker 5: I'll actually go Seattle. I almost made Seattle on my
Speaker 5: picks if it were three, but it's mostly two and
Speaker 5: a half, so I will take Seattle up to eight
Speaker 5: and a half in what should be a close game
Speaker 5: against Green Bay. So Seattle and the Commanders is my
Speaker 5: two teamer.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've said that. The reason obviously,
Speaker 2: the Commander's line is so high as Spencer Rattler is
Speaker 2: going to be the quarterback I believe for the Saints
Speaker 2: and he is not. Is it him or is it
Speaker 2: Jake Hayner? Is it Spencer Rattler? Who cares? Really, it
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. They both stink, so it's regardless of
Speaker 2: who it is, it's bad for the Saints. I also
Speaker 2: have the Commander's minus one and a half for the
Speaker 2: same reasons you guys were talking about. I have the
Speaker 2: Vikings down to what do you have the Vikings at
Speaker 2: six and a half or seven?
Speaker 3: What do you see in Ben, I'm seeing mostly six
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty much that's split.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the Vikings. I'll take the Vikings down
Speaker 2: to a half for my second leg at home. I
Speaker 2: just don't believe that old Caleb is going to get
Speaker 2: it together on the road in a tough place to play.
Speaker 2: They played just a couple of weeks ago, and the
Speaker 2: Vikings handled them pretty good, even though there was a
Speaker 2: late game collapse that ended up I believe the game
Speaker 2: went into overtime, but the Vikings dominated that game, and
Speaker 2: I don't see why they shouldn't dominate this game at home.
Speaker 2: The Bears are a dumpster fire, let's be honest. I
Speaker 2: just don't see it with this team. You know, I've
Speaker 2: been skeptical of Caleb for the beginning of the year,
Speaker 2: and I've been pretty much proven right. They're just not
Speaker 2: ready for prime time. I'm gonna go with the Vikings
Speaker 2: minus a half as a second leg. Gil Alexander, the
Speaker 2: fearless leader of this podcast. In his two team teaser,
Speaker 2: he also has the commander, so it's a sweep. Everybody
Speaker 2: loves the Commanders minus the one and a half, probably
Speaker 2: for the same reasons. And his second leg is the
Speaker 2: La Rams tonight, so he's going somewhat against me in
Speaker 2: getting eight and a half with the Rams. The Rams
Speaker 2: plus eight and a half. And wait, I'm hearing something
Speaker 2: right now? Is that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I thought I was hearing something from the Rams game.
Speaker 2: Note it's actually it's actually from the Lions game. I
Speaker 2: believe I'm trying to find one where. Oh wait a second, No,
Speaker 2: it's in the Carolina game. My fault.
Speaker 4: Here's what I'm hearings on red zone. Can't figure out
Speaker 4: the right thing go to?
Speaker 2: It's not that easy, Ben, Let's go. Twenty nine, twenty
Speaker 2: one the Dallas uh. The Carolina Panthers lead the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush bringing them all down the field. There's twelve
Speaker 2: seconds left the Cowboys at the eight yard line. Rush
Speaker 2: rolls to the right. He's got to run. The slowest
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league is gonna try.
Speaker 4: To get to the pilot.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, touchdown, Cowboys. Looks like they're gonna lose this one.
Speaker 6: Twenty nine, twenty seven, Jym, your thoughts about both Will
Speaker 6: and Gilly both picking the Carolina Panthers minus two and
Speaker 6: a half and going down on a Cooper Rush eight
Speaker 6: yard scamper to the pylon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 4: That was brilliant, Stot. That was as as a play
Speaker 4: by play guy first and foremost, I you know Chef's
Speaker 4: kiss really by.
Speaker 2: The way, I really really well, I really would be
Speaker 2: the best because i'd be I could do that. I
Speaker 2: could do the regular Bob Costas, you know, Dick Enberg,
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Buck. But then I could also give
Speaker 2: you the play by play from like the radio home
Speaker 2: team announcers with is what I love the most. I'm
Speaker 2: always doing the radio play by play guys. When they
Speaker 2: go Jema's out a touchdow Was, they go crazy.
Speaker 7: Those guys are awesome because they're like, you know, they're
Speaker 7: like Jimmy passes.
Speaker 4: It over to Jay like it's his all first names.
Speaker 4: Like it's just so it's a little HOMERSM. I should
Speaker 4: watch the people should watch the show. People haven't seen
Speaker 4: the show. Brockmeyer that that show is just awesome. Where
Speaker 4: it's it's about. It's about a disgraced play by play
Speaker 4: guy trying to make it back to the major leagues,
Speaker 4: the main character so fricking funny and like Bob cost Is,
Speaker 4: Joe Buckep cameos and it is, it isn't it's a
Speaker 4: whole I think it's on I f C. There's a
Speaker 4: scene where where Brockmeyer start. He meets this woman who
Speaker 4: works in this minor league front office and it's a
Speaker 4: sex scene and he starts. He starts doing play by
Speaker 4: play and he's like, he's like in Brockmere.
Speaker 7: Assumes the missionar area and he and oh there's a
Speaker 7: stray finger the caster and he is into it and
Speaker 7: she's like, please stop, please, It's so funny, so good
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 2: I actually do do play by play in real life.
Speaker 2: Sometimes if I'm at lunch with my friend down full
Speaker 2: floods or something, we're.
Speaker 6: Like, oh, skippy around the soups and he's I was
Speaker 6: going for the pizza.
Speaker 2: So you know that's always a good time. Okay. Anyways,
Speaker 2: we got our teasers done and now we go to
Speaker 2: our biggest favorite to lose. So I guess the candidates
Speaker 2: are Gilly loves to do the candidates. The candidates are
Speaker 2: the commanders. We don't think they're gonna lose, of course,
Speaker 2: they're at seven and a half and all, So would
Speaker 2: you say Minnesota Viking six and a half? Oh, the
Speaker 2: Ravens of course at sixteen. I doubt anybody's gonna be
Speaker 2: picking that one. Vikings. I guess at six and a
Speaker 2: half we can put in there. And I guess because
Speaker 2: we only have three, we can throw in the Cardinals
Speaker 2: at six as well. Guys, biggest, biggest one of the
Speaker 2: faves to lose? You who do you think? Minnesota? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, well, I think pretty shocky we
Speaker 4: put I would say Minnesota only because Todd put them
Speaker 4: in his teaser and that means that means tread very carefully.
Speaker 5: Now with Minnesota, and they gave up over seven yards
Speaker 5: per play last week to Atlanta, Arizona out gained to
Speaker 5: by two over two hundred yards. I know it's a
Speaker 5: pretty looking record eleven and two, but they've quietly not
Speaker 5: played as well the past few weeks, going against your
Speaker 5: own will.
Speaker 4: Are you mentally prepared for when the Vikings are probably
Speaker 4: laying like three and a half in Tampa for Wild
Speaker 4: Card Weekend? In the game it will definitely be like
Speaker 4: the early Saturday game. Are you mentally prepared for that?
Speaker 5: Yet Ah, sure, everyone, I'm just I'm glad everyone has
Speaker 5: just handed the division to the Lions.
Speaker 2: It's over.
Speaker 5: Vikings are a wild card, So yes, I'm making my
Speaker 5: plans right now for wildcard weekend because there's no chance
Speaker 5: the Vikings could come up and steal this division none.
Speaker 2: I could sense that he's a little disappointed in that
Speaker 2: kind of comment, Ben, because he had the same tone
Speaker 2: when he discusses WNBA matters. So that was very interesting,
Speaker 2: that little tone that we got from Lily. I guess
Speaker 2: the team to lose get I could see the Cardinals
Speaker 2: losing to the Patriots, so maybe I'll go with something
Speaker 2: a little different. Cards maybe to lose to the Patriots.
Speaker 2: And then our friend Gil Alexander has the team most
Speaker 2: likely lose Minnesota as well, so he's with you guys
Speaker 2: on the Vikings to lose. And then we go to
Speaker 2: the last question, which is team game you want no
Speaker 2: part of? Gilly wants no part of the LA Chargers
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay game, and you guys, what do you guys
Speaker 2: most the one game that if you had to bet
Speaker 2: them all but you could pass on one of them,
Speaker 2: which one would you want to pass on? Will?
Speaker 5: I will go with I mean, there's a bunch of
Speaker 5: options here. I'm not betting the Titans anymore, and I'm
Speaker 5: not looking to lay points on the road with Cincy,
Speaker 5: who I know they covered last week, but that was
Speaker 5: extremely fortunate.
Speaker 3: So Bengals Titans a pretty easy cross off for me.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're out of but you're out of titsan ontims.
Speaker 4: You completed yes program? Oh boy, Yeah, as.
Speaker 2: A fellow rock Bottom, that's what happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will go to the late the Lake. We
Speaker 4: have a Monday night doubleheader, which is weird for Week fifteen,
Speaker 4: but I will go to the late Monday night game
Speaker 4: Atlanta and Las Vegas. It's weird that there's the Raiders
Speaker 4: are kind of slow playing, like they're they're saying, oh,
Speaker 4: Aiden account that he might go even though he I
Speaker 4: mean you saw him go into the air casting gets
Speaker 4: just annihilated on that play in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, he's done for the year, and now
Speaker 4: they're saying you might play and but there's no way
Speaker 4: I want to lay points on the road with this
Speaker 4: Atlanta team that is just completely down the drain. And
Speaker 4: it's almost like we we we forgot because some time
Speaker 4: passed that Raheem Morris still a really really bad football coach,
Speaker 4: and Atlanta has reflected that down his home stretch here.
Speaker 4: But if I were to take points at the Raiders,
Speaker 4: there's a pretty good chance I end up with Desmond
Speaker 4: Ritter and nobody wants that, so he's stay away from me.
Speaker 4: Falcons Raiders.
Speaker 2: I think I would say the game I want no
Speaker 2: part of is the Bronnis, the Cleave Bronni's and the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, just for all the reasons we were
Speaker 2: talking about before, which is just you know, jamis is
Speaker 2: so hard to call, and you know, are the Chiefs
Speaker 2: going to do it again? I just have to stay
Speaker 2: away from that Chiefs game. So that'll be my pick
Speaker 2: for game I want no part of. Guys, I think
Speaker 2: we did a decent job. It wasn't, you know, up
Speaker 2: to the standards of when we have Gilly Alexander. And
Speaker 2: I know, Ben, you wanted to be on with the
Speaker 2: great Gail Alexander as everyone should. You know, Basically to me,
Speaker 2: it's Brian Gumbel, Brent Musburg, or Gilly Alexander in some order.
Speaker 2: And you know, I just I appreciate you coming on,
Speaker 2: Ben to help us out Willie outstanding job as usual.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we were able to pull our weight to get
Speaker 2: us through to week through week fifteen. Guys, any last thoughts.
Speaker 3: No, I'm glad Ben came on.
Speaker 5: Know you push back at the idea of having a
Speaker 5: mind like he's more of a play by play guy,
Speaker 5: doesn't have that many opinions.
Speaker 3: I told you be good. He was good, So I'm
Speaker 3: glad we did this, agreed.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we were talking Grand Canyon basketball, then
Speaker 2: of course I would go right to Ben Wilson and
Speaker 2: ask him about Grand Canyon basketball or maybe Northern Arizona,
Speaker 2: you know, you know.
Speaker 4: College game the other day.
Speaker 5: In all seriously, Ben was like, I can't wait to
Speaker 5: be live betting college basketball with Todd during the pod.
Speaker 5: But the college basketball schedule, guys did not, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: comply us with a game here. Give us a game here,
Speaker 5: which we usually especially like around the holidays a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks out from Christmas. We've been getting one or
Speaker 5: two day games a week here, or one game a
Speaker 5: day like yesterday was Baylor. A couple of days ago
Speaker 5: we got one. So unfortunately we couldn't be live betting
Speaker 5: some random college hoops game.
Speaker 4: I feel cheated. I feel like I need my appearance
Speaker 4: has not been fully has not been fully completed. I
Speaker 4: will just say that my last st let the record
Speaker 4: show the first ever, the first ever Fox I got
Speaker 4: to do, first national game for me. I will never
Speaker 4: forget this because I was doing it was Colorado Wazoo,
Speaker 4: it was it was the late it was like the
Speaker 4: eleven pm Eastern tip Ohrol in Washington after the NFC
Speaker 4: Championship game, which that year was Rams and Niners. And
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing this obviously like you're you're nervous,
Speaker 4: but you're excited. It's your first not your call to
Speaker 4: the big leagues, right, like first national game. So I
Speaker 4: get through the first I think two media timeouts, and
Speaker 4: you know, look at my phone and you're expecting all
Speaker 4: these texts from like family and friends and stuff, and
Speaker 4: instead I've got like eight texts from Todd and it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: you're doing the Colorado Wazoo game. I've got in game
Speaker 4: over one forty three and a half. Then I just
Speaker 4: took some in game under one forty nine and a
Speaker 4: half and now I got I got. I just added
Speaker 4: more one forty six and a half. But I think
Speaker 4: I m too.
Speaker 3: I think I remember I d MD that night too.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 4: Anyway, we were excited.
Speaker 2: I get excited when I see when I see a
Speaker 2: Fox Sports one and it's Ben Wilson calling the game
Speaker 2: with some non descript former mid major college coach like
Speaker 2: Jack Hartenstein and I made up that name. I'm sure
Speaker 2: there was a Jack Hardenstein, but it's it's.
Speaker 8: Ben Kou Ben Cooper, and I mean Ben Wilson here
Speaker 8: with Jack Hartenstein calling FS one late game it's Wazuo
Speaker 8: playing the app Lade Christian.
Speaker 2: Whatever their day is. I always get excited when I
Speaker 2: see Ben on the on the FS one, So that's.
Speaker 4: I'll be doing a whack tournament. ESPN Plus will hopefully
Speaker 4: get another game on on big ESPN like we got
Speaker 4: last year and a lot of a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of fun times with the in game betting todd.
Speaker 4: So that's because.
Speaker 2: I've noticed ESPN has less games and they're pushing everything
Speaker 2: the ESPN Plus, which doesn't really bother me because I,
Speaker 2: you know, I bring my little gadgets. You know, you
Speaker 2: can go buy like a kindle, like a cheap ass
Speaker 2: kindle for like forty bucks, or some kind of tablet
Speaker 2: for like fifty bucks. So I have like a couple
Speaker 2: of them that I bring into the book with me
Speaker 2: and I line them up and that way I have
Speaker 2: all my ESPN Plus feeds going well, I'm watching the games,
Speaker 2: so anyways, that's for crazy people like myself. But then
Speaker 2: you get to watch Southeast Louisiana again La Fayette Louisiana
Speaker 2: and you get a feel for why you know it's
Speaker 2: it's you know, one team's one for twelve from three,
Speaker 2: the other team's three for fifteen from three, and you're
Speaker 2: watching and you're like, how can every single three point
Speaker 2: or not going? It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Even though I tail your pick seriously though to not
Speaker 5: even though I tell most your picks, how are you
Speaker 5: doing the season, it feels like you're doing well?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think I'm doing
Speaker 2: as well. I mean I I usually I put them
Speaker 2: in my WhatsApp group and I and I do the
Speaker 2: records every so often. And I'm down right now on
Speaker 2: the year in college basketball, I did have a real
Speaker 2: slow start. So ever since my slow start, I've been
Speaker 2: picking it up a little bit. But I had a
Speaker 2: bad Sunday, But I did pretty well yesterday, I've really
Speaker 2: enjoyed the uh the late game. The late game over
Speaker 2: inflation of the number late is a very interesting angle.
Speaker 2: It's hard to get the bet end sometimes. But what
Speaker 2: I mean by that is when you have these games,
Speaker 2: you know, lined in the one fifties and it's a
Speaker 2: close game late, the game typically slows down in the
Speaker 2: last eight to sixty eight minutes. So keep an eye
Speaker 2: on that if you like to bet college basketball live,
Speaker 2: because that's always fun times. And we'll be looking for
Speaker 2: Ben Wilson on the call because that always makes it
Speaker 2: more fun. Jack, what did you think of that three porter?
Speaker 2: This is Ben Wilson. Anyways, guys, this is Todd Wishneff
Speaker 2: signing off from the cork attic here at Megapod Center.
Speaker 2: I want to think Willia and bed at our fearless leader,
Speaker 2: Jelly Alexander. I hope you all have a great time
Speaker 2: this week with carol Ana Midas two and a half
Speaker 2: not covering and that'll do it.