1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always by my partner 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: in crime, Weston Hodkowitz, and we're coming to you here 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: from our studios at Lambeofield to talk Packers Training Camp. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: West there are five practices in the books as we 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: currently record this episode. The first one in pads was yesterday, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: and I think before we get into our very general 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: and various observations, we should start with addressing what I 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: would say is the biggest news of training camp thus far, 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: which is that for the first padded practice, as it 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: turned out, Elton Jenkins was on the practice field for 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: the first time, and it was the first time we 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: had seen him on the practice field because he was 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: not a part of OTA's and when he was present 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: for the mandatory mini camp in June, he was dealing 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: with a back injury, and that back injury is what 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: had kept him out the first few days of training camp. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: But the Packers' new center is back on the field. 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: He's ramping up. He'll work his way up into the 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: eleven on eleven, but he is good with the position switch. 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: He is not concerned about his contract and he is 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: getting ready to go. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: He's often ready to do this thing. And when you're 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: talking about Alton Jenkins, and I wrote this in the 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: story that we put on Packers dot Com on Tuesday, 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy has been the ultimate everyman for 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers since the day they drafted him back. 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen. 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: A two years starting center at Mississippi State, he comes 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: to the NFL, his opportunity to get a spot in 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: that starting five ends up being through left guard when 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: Lane Taylor goes down for the season with the biceps injury. 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, within a year of that, 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: he's a Pro bowler, the youngest Pro bowler. I think 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: it was the first time in what almost seventy two 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: years or something like that that the Packers had a 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: Pro bowler in his second season on the offensive line. 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 3: And then you look at the times he played and filled. 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: In left tackle at right tackle. 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: And one of the things I think gets most overlooked 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty, the Packers are in the middle 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: of a huge season and Corey Linsley goes down. He 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: ends up missing three games with a knee injury. Elton 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Jenkins just completely doesn't about face moves into center and 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: played exceptionally well there during those three games, despite really 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: not taking any snaps there at all. Now he's finally 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: in that role. As he said, this offseason, there was 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: some family stuff he had to attend to ended up 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: injuring his back during some weightlifting. Wanted to be careful 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: with that on his way back. But at the end 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: of the day, he is excited about this. It's something 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: him and the Packers brass have talked about before in 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: the past, and now getting the chance to snap to 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love for the first time this summer, he's ready 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: and raring to go. 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: And he did say there have been some discussions behind 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: the scenes with regard to his contract and whatnot that's 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: been going on for a while. There hasn't necessarily been 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: a resolution there. He has not been given any guarantees 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: that anything with this contract is going to change. 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: But he made it. 63 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Pretty clear to the group of reporters that gathered around 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: his locker after Monday's practice that he is not thinking 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: about the contract, He's not worried about it. He is 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: focused on getting himself healthy, getting in to the offensive 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: line to start the daily reps, excuse me, the daily 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: reps at center with quarterback Jordan Love, with his other teammates. 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: He's got a brand new guy playing his old position, 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: a left guard, and Aaron Banks that he wants to 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: work with. All of that kind of stuff is factoring in. 72 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: And you mentioned you just mentioned it now. You also 73 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: mentioned it an insider inbox the other day that it's 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: easy for people to forget that three game stretch in 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty when Jenkins moved over to center and filled 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: in for Corey Linsley. And you have to remember that 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: the Packers had one of the best offenses in the 78 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: league in twenty twenty and they lose their all pro 79 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: center for three games and the offense didn't skip a 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: beat Elton Jenkins. We hardly even wrote about it, quite 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: frankly talked about it because the transition for Jenkins taking 82 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: over at center and just the way the offense was 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: functioning was so seamless. Now, yes, that was five years ago, granted, 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: but it just it speaks to the type of player 85 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: that Elton Jenkins is and why this coaching staff, Jordan Love, 86 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: everybody involved, they don't have any concerns about Jenkins making 87 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: this switch. The focus is to get him healthy and 88 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: get him out there just to get this ball roll. 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, and Elton said too, it was something they discussed 90 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: during his exit interviews. But when they didn't re sign 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: and Josh Myers moves on to the New York Jets, 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: that's where Elton's like, Okay, this thing became kind of 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: like serious now, like. 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, really it got real. 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's like for the same reason where it's like, 96 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: you look at the way the Packers roster is structured 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: right now. You have Sean Ryan, who's been the one 98 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: taking most of the one reps when Elton has not 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: been at practice or has been injured, and Sean had 100 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: never really played center until he came to Green Bay. 101 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: You have Jacob Munk, who did it at Duke but 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: then didn't play an offense of snap last season. Trey 103 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: Hill is in the conversation too, But in terms of 104 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: established guys that have done it at a high level 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: in some pretty essential situations, Elton Jenkins was the best 106 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: option at that spot, especially when you looked at what 107 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: was available in free agency. The Packers felt like their 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 3: best move was to go and get Aaron Banks plug 109 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: him into Jenkins Now, vacated spot at left guard and 110 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: move Elton into that center position. He said he wants 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: to get over the hump. There's a lot of work 112 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: that he still wants to achieve here in Green Bay. 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: And if this is going to be what's best for him, 114 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: what's best for this team, what's best for Jordan Love, 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: He's fully on. 116 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Board with it and committed to it. 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, Mike, I'm very interested 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: to see what Elton can do at that spot because 119 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: he's not just it was a good story. I mean, 120 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: this guy is one of the top offensive linemen in 121 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: Green Bay over the last ten to fifteen years. Yeah, 122 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: and to have him now in a position at center, 123 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 3: which there'd been some issues with before in the past, 124 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: and that transition from Corey Lensley, I feel like when 125 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: you're talking about building the best five, when you look 126 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: how the Packers are built right now, having number seventy 127 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: four there snap into Jordan Love, I think is definitely 128 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: going to be what gives Green Bay their best shot. 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be uh, it's definitely going to be interesting 130 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: to watch. And for his part out and Jenkins says, 131 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, He essentially reiterated what we've heard from 132 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: Matt Leffluur and Brian Guducums throughout the offseason, which is 133 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: that he feels he can be a Pro Bowl player, 134 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: potential All Pro player at center. He's not backing down 135 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: from the challenge whatsoever. He's doing nothing but looking forward 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: five practices in the books. We can just go back 137 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: and forth a little bit as far as observations. What's 138 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: jumped out at you. 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: So we were talking with Evan Williams earlier this week. 140 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 3: I thought this was a very interesting observation. He talked 141 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: about the emphasis that Jeff Hafley's putting on force fumbles, 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: and we're going to learn more about that, I think 143 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: when Jeff addresses the media on Wednesday, right, But you 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: know they've been talking about what the NFL record is. 145 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: I believe it's thirty four to the New York Giants 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: back in twenty ten. In the Packers last year, I 147 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: think had eighteen punch outs if I remember correctly. But 148 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: you're seeing it in practice. I mean it's happened every 149 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: single day. There has been a time where the ball 150 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: has come out. It happened again on Monday, albeit it 151 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: was on the sideline, but it was Evan Williams. Yeah, 152 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: kind of punching the ball through on Tucker Craft as 153 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: they were getting towards the sideline there, Rashan Gary chased 154 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: down Jayden Reid with it. When you look at Javon 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: Bullard how excited he got when he had to punch 156 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: out last week in practice against Tucker Craft. The interceptions 157 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: are cool, but as Evan Williams said, those aren't things 158 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: that are just given to you. You have to really 159 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: work for him, and you got to hope occasionally the 160 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: quarterback just makes a mistake when you're finishing to the ball, 161 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: when you're tackling, trying to do that little peanut punch, 162 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: trying to get that extra sort of last ditch effort 163 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: to get that Football can sometimes pay major dividends, and 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: I can definitely see with this secondary, a very competitive secondary. 165 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: That's been something you can really see is reflected in 166 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 3: their play style. 167 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 168 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: The one cab I would throw into that is that 169 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: when we're in a training camp setting and the defensive 170 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: players are not actually tackling that And I'm saying this 171 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 2: somewhat in defense of the offensive players who have lost 172 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: the ball in some of these situations when the defensive 173 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: players don't actually have to tackle you. It's a lot 174 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: easier for them to focus on punching the ball out, right. So, 175 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: but this is training camp. This is when you train things. 176 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: This is when you try to get things like top 177 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: of mind of players. And then as you as you 178 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: make the transition into actually tackling, then it's like, okay, 179 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: when you have an opportunity, you see an opportunity to 180 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: get the ball out, it's something that's been trained during 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: training camp to to, you know, to take advantage of 182 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: a potential opportunity there. 183 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: But I just. 184 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Wanted to say that because there are those who are like, oh, well, 185 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, Tucker Craft has lost the ball and Josh 186 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: Jacobs has lost the ball, and it's like, yeah, these 187 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: guys are going after the ball because they don't actually 188 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: have to try to tackle these two hundred and forty 189 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: pound dudes, right like. 190 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: Safety going after a twitter and sixty pound and Tucker crab. 191 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: No. 192 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: But the one I was really impressed with, and you 193 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: were the one that brought it up right away in 194 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: practice we were watching the Rashan Gary one was the 195 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: one that I thought was really kind of jaw dropping 196 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: a little bit because it's that he had to chase 197 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: that play down, Yeah, to be able. 198 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: That just shows you that was. 199 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: A big time hustle play by Gary. No doubt about 200 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: hustle play. 201 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: When you're talking about the mentality of a defense and 202 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: what you want your guys doing. I think Gary really 203 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: does reflect all the positives in how you want to 204 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: go about your preparation and training in these settings. Certainly 205 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: when you look at the offensive side of the ball, 206 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: I've been super impressed just on how they've been able 207 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: to utilize these weapons that they have at the receiver position. 208 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: We talked about Matthew Golden quite a bit, but I 209 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: mean Jaden Reid was the star of that two minute 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: drill at the end of practice. Yeah. 211 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: That was that was like a rapid fire, bang, bang, bang, 212 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: three straight completions and all of a sudden, the offense 213 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: was in field goal range and that's all they needed 214 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: on the drive based on the scenario, was a field 215 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: goal at the end. Yeah, and Red just just took 216 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: that over. 217 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: Twenty three yards in the scene. It wasn't just like 218 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, a couple dink and dunk passes. 219 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: I mean, no, Jordan Love uncorked one and Reid, to 220 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: his credit, right down the middle of the field was 221 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: able to haul that in. I just feel like there's 222 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: been so many guys that have had some big days, 223 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: and you know, there's times where we try to have 224 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: these overwhelming sort of narratives of Oh, who's really breaking 225 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: out or who's really impressed you so far. I just 226 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: feel like the overall kind of tempo of these practices, 227 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: especially once the pads went on Monday, you can definitely 228 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 3: feel that energy and. 229 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: That excitement for what Green Bays trying to achieve here. 230 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of a couple of guys that have 231 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: jumped out at me, I would say over the last 232 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: two days of practice, after that first break on Saturday, 233 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: when the players had a day off, came back really 234 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: hot practices on Sunday and Monday. It sounds like today 235 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: when we're out there a little bit later today, it's 236 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: still gonna be pretty darn hot before the temperature changes tomorrow. 237 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: But two guys that jumped out at me, Josh Jacobs 238 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: and Malik Willis. And I mentioned Jacobs because he made 239 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: it was really early. It was pretty early in practice, 240 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: I want to say. On Sunday, during the eleven on 241 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: eleven where he took a handoff and he made a 242 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: cut in the hole where you know, it was like 243 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: almost all of us on the sideline were sort of 244 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: like whoa, and it hit It hit me in that moment. 245 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: One of the things that that makes Josh Jacobs a 246 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: special running back is that he he has a way 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: of making the difficult or the uncommon cut look natural. 248 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't. 249 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a gift that he has. It's 250 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: it's the gift the combination of how his vision and 251 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: his footwork, you know, sort of work in tandem. He 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: makes that uncommon move look natural and look easy and 253 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: and I don't know, and you know, in this is 254 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: my twentieth training camp with Packers dot Com, I have 255 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: seen a lot of good running backs come through here, 256 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, whether you're talking Ryan Grant or Eddie Lacy, 257 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, James Starks, all kinds of other guys in between. 258 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever been able to say 259 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: that about any other running back, that he makes the 260 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: uncommon cut look natural. And that is what makes Josh 261 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: Jacobs so fun to watch. 262 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's cool for me because, in no disrespect 263 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: to any of the running backs that were on the 264 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: Packers team when I started covering them in twenty eleven 265 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: and twelve, But they didn't have those type of athletes 266 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: at that position. I mean, there was a couple of 267 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: years there, right, Let's be honest. The end of the 268 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: twenty twelve season, they're trying to get a practice squad guy, 269 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: Dawan Harris to be their number one. 270 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Running back down the stretch. 271 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: Then Aaron Jones came in the picture. Obviously Eddie Lacy 272 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: did some good things, but Eddie was just his style 273 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: was different. He was a power bull rushing kind of guy. 274 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: Aaron was slippery and it's funny to me to watch 275 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: him in Josh Jacob's back to back how elusive they 276 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: are between the tackles. Completely different reason. Yeah, where it 277 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: was Aaron being you can't find this guy, and he's quick, right, 278 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: and he's going to be able to and he had 279 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: some power to him, he's going to be able to 280 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: get through you. And then you have Josh Jacobs, who 281 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: is i mean what twenty five pounds heavier than Aaron 282 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: maybe more yea and can really move his body and 283 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: get from point a to point b in such. 284 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: A fluid motion. 285 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 286 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason why he was a Russian champion, 287 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 3: There's a reason why he's been an All Pro before 288 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: in this league. There's a reason why he was a 289 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: Pro bowler last year during his first year in Green Bay. 290 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: But he has Both of those guys, independently of each other, 291 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: had things that you cannot coach. You can hone it, 292 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: you can work on it, but it's just that processing ability, 293 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: as you said, of what's going on up here in 294 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: translating it down to your feet. 295 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, man the offensive. 296 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: Line, has talked a lot about it this offseason. You know, 297 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: if they give him some room to work with, this 298 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: guy is going to be in for some really big 299 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: things this season. Yeah. 300 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: And he mentioned when he first showed up for training camp, 301 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: and I a story about this. You can find it 302 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: on packers dot com. It was posted on Monday morning. 303 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: He actually said that he's never felt this good physically, 304 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: just with his body coming into a training camp as 305 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: he does right now. He you know, he had three 306 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: hundred and one carries in the regular season last year, 307 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: is only the second time in his career he had 308 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: over three hundred carries in a season. Obviously, then a 309 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,119 Speaker 2: playoff game was added on to that. But a combination 310 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: of things. One he felt spending a little bit less 311 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: time on artificial turf last year, both game wise and 312 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: practice wise compared to some of his years with the 313 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: Raiders was a factor. He also did some things, changing 314 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: his diet and whatnot. And he said his you know, 315 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: after last season, he said his body really started to 316 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: feel almost back to normal after about a week maybe two, 317 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: as opposed to in a normal off season it would 318 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: take him like a month or two before his body 319 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: really felt good again. So so physically he's a and 320 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: any kind of joke, he says, well maybe now I'm 321 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: hitting my prime, you know, that was what he said. 322 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: So this running style, it's possible too. 323 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like he's he's not a guy that's 324 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: just reliant on four to three speed. I mean he is, 325 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: he is a running back. Josh Shacobs could have played 326 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: in any era. I mean with the way goes about 327 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: handling his business. I know we got to get to 328 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: sponsorship business. But I got to give the guy also 329 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: a shut up for this too, because you were asking 330 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: about this this past week. I thought there was a 331 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: really good illustration of it on Monday. Unfortunately, Marshawn Lloyd 332 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: gets injured an incident there during one of the team periods. 333 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: We don't know at this time that we're shooting this 334 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: what exactly happened, but he's off on the sidelines, he's 335 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: just watching the tablet. Andy Herman actually got the photo 336 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: of it. I did not take it because I didn't 337 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: think it was a shooting period, but there is a 338 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: pretty awesome photo of Josh Shacobs with his arm around 339 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: Marshawn Lloyd looking at the tablet, looking at the rest 340 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: of practice. This is the type of guy this guy is. 341 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: It's not just all about him. He's trying to bring 342 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: the rest of the group up with him. And you know, 343 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: Manuel Wilson is talking about it. Chris Brooks was talking 344 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: last year about how essential and how vital Jacobs was 345 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: in terms of trying to get him up to speed 346 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: after he came in late in Marshawn Lloyd, the guy, 347 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: the third round pick from last year who drove down 348 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: to practices last year with Josh Jacobs, trying to get healthy, 349 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: trying to get out there, trying to be able to 350 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: show a lot of his potential. Jacobs has really poured 351 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: a lot into him as well. 352 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the relationship between those two guys is certainly interesting. 353 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: One other thing before we do get to sponsor business, 354 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: I mentioned Malik Willis. Yes, I just thought watching Monday's practice, 355 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: the first one in Pads, I thought, I thought Malik 356 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Willis looked maybe as sharp as I've ever seen him. 357 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: I know we talked in the offseason during OTA's mini camp. 358 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: We had a discussion about just how just how the 359 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: ball comes out of Malik Willis's hand. I mean, everything 360 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: always looks so smooth, the way he is running this 361 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: offense right now, obviously he's running the number two offense. 362 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: He looks in command, he looks on time. I thought yesterday, 363 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: in all of the eleven on eleven snaps that he took, 364 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: there was maybe only one throw that he would want 365 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: to have back. It was during the two minute drill. 366 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: He threw one that Carrington Valentine was able to tip 367 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: and deflect away and Valentine almost was able to get 368 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: an interception on it. That was like the only pass that, 369 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: at least from my observation, that Malik Willis would go 370 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: into the locker room after that practice and say, oh 371 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: I wish I had that one back. Every other ball 372 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: he threw it felt like it was just it was 373 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: right where it needed to be, the timing of the play. 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: His guys were making plays for him. Malik Heath made 375 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: a tremendous catch along the sideline in that two minute 376 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: drill to help the number two offense get a field 377 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: goal in their scenario. I know that the goal is 378 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: for Jordan Love to have a healthier season than he 379 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: did last year, and for Jordan Love to play every game, 380 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 2: and for Malik Willis not to have to play necessarily 381 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: meaningful snaps that quarterback for the Packers. But as much 382 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: as the Packers were in really good hands with Willis 383 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: last year when he did need to fill in, as 384 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: we saw, if something were to happen to Jordan Love 385 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: this year, I think the Packers are in even better 386 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: hands with Malik Willis this year than they were last year. 387 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: And that's saying something. 388 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: The peace of mind that a guy like that gives you, 389 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: And I wrote this is the best compliment I can 390 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: pay Malik Willis or any backup quarterback. He has completely 391 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: changed my philosophy on the backup quarterback position. Michael, there 392 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: was a time where I adhered to that whole. Okay, 393 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: you got Peyton Manning, you have dan Arlovski behind him. 394 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: If you lose, if Peyton Manning goes down, you just 395 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: deal with what you're gonna deal with. 396 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win the Super Bowl. Anyway. 397 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: I watched Malik Willis last year and what he did. 398 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the Packers do not make the playoffs probably 399 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: without him. No, last year, I don't think so had 400 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: that huge of an impact after coming in on short notice. 401 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: Now he's had a full offseason program. And to your 402 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: point is there are no style points in the NFL. 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: We know that professional football doesn't go hand in hand 404 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: with that, but Malik Willis throws about as beautiful of 405 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: a pass as far as a downfield throw as you're 406 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: going to. 407 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: See in the National Football League. 408 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: I mean, that thing is a nine point eight with 409 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: maybe the you know, if you're looking at like the 410 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: Olympic kind of like what is that gymnastics or whatever, 411 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: they kind of have the judges that go through it. 412 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: It's incredible to watch. 413 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: And one way or another, this I think this is 414 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: probably the most excited I've been to watch a backup 415 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: quarterback playing Green Bay since Vince Young was signed in 416 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, and that was for the wrong reason. I mean, 417 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: this guy, like watching him in the preseason, I think 418 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: is going to be worth the price ad mission alone 419 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: because he's playing to be the backup to Jordan Love. 420 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 3: But my goodness, Michael, the more we watch him, the 421 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: more I am fully convinced this guy is going to 422 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: be pushing for a starting spot somewhere in the National 423 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: Football League next year. 424 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think, I definitely think so. 425 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: We're a little bit delayed on this, but we do 426 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: have to take care of some sponsor business. 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Hey, we're doing new and different things here. 440 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: It only took ten years. 441 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it only took ten years to get to this point. 442 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: But a couple other things would be remiss in terms 443 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: of talking about these first handful of practices if we 444 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: didn't mention that kicker, Brandon McManus. My goodness, twenty. 445 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: Three out of twenty three. The guy can't miss. 446 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: I mean, and it's not like he's just kicking extra 447 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: points out there either. 448 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: He's kicked. 449 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: I believe three of his makes have been from fifty plus. 450 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: He ended both two minute drills on Monday with successful makes. 451 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: In the quote unquote pressure situation, Brandon McManus is as 452 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: locked in as any kicker I've ever seen in the 453 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: early stages of a training kick. 454 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: And it's funny to me too, because we've heard so 455 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: much in the past about Okay, you have the wins 456 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: off of the Hudson Center, the difficulties there can be 457 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: kicking on Nichgie Field, Brandon McManus looks like he got 458 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: the crash course on it, figured it out pretty darn quick. Yeah. 459 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's been able to do out there. 460 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: And again, this is no disrespect all the other kickers 461 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: that have come through Green Bay. It is not easy 462 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: to find a place kicker in the National Football League. 463 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: Every year it seems like there's eight to ten teams 464 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: that are just trying to find somebody that's gonna stick 465 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: when you get that guy, as the Packers new for 466 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: a majority of Mason Crosby's sixteen seasons. Here it again. 467 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: We're talking about peace of mind with Malik Willis and 468 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: what Matt Lafuer responded to your question on Monday, I mean, 469 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: you don't even think about it. Yeah, when you have 470 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: a kicker that's that locked in, McManus is in the 471 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: zone right now. Obviously you wanted to carry over when 472 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 3: the kicks really matter, but you can't have momentum if 473 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: you don't get it initially. And certainly there is a 474 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: lot of wind in seventeen sales right now. 475 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, last thing before we go. We touched on it 476 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: a little bit at the end of our last show. 477 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Now it is actually official. You were out there in 478 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: the Stadium Bowl for the shareholders meeting on Friday, the 479 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: official transition from Mark Murphy as president and CEO of 480 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: the Packers to ed Policy. And I'm just curious your 481 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: thoughts in terms of just being there and witnessing it. 482 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: I was up at my desk working on some other things, 483 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: so I was sort of listening in so to speak, 484 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: but not paying as close attention as you were. But 485 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: I bring it up because this is the second president 486 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: slash CEO transition that I've a part of here with 487 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: the Packers. On the previous one where it went from 488 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: Bob Harlan to Mark Murphy, it wasn't really there wasn't 489 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: kind of this ceremony to it, because you know, there 490 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: was uncertainty for a while because the initial transition was 491 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: going to be to John Jones, and then some health 492 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: concerns there he had to step aside, which led to 493 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: the search firm finding the next president and CEO of 494 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: the team, which which is what brought Mark Murphy. And 495 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: Bob Harlan stayed on an entire extra year that he 496 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: wasn't planning on in terms of running the organization. So 497 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: it was just very different, I'll say back in late 498 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven into two thousand and eight when 499 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: the transition was made this one, everything sort of happened 500 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 2: the way it was supposed to happen, And just your 501 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: thoughts on the visuals and what it looked like out there. 502 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, I give so much credit to 503 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: the fans, the shareholders that were in attendance. I mean, 504 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: it showed so much respect and kindness towards Mark that 505 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: was great to see. There was a couple standing ovations 506 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: throughout the shareholders meeting and to see him get that 507 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: type of recognition. Obviously, you and I have talked a 508 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: lot about it. There's a lot of things that they've 509 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: done within the organization to honor him over the last 510 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 3: few months. Yeah, but it is ultimately that connection with 511 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: the fans that I think Mark works so hard to develop. 512 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: And again I wrote an insider inbox recently. I don't 513 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: think I ever saw him turn down a photo, turned 514 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: down an autograph, and you and I covered a lot 515 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: of pep rallies. 516 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of autographs to be had out there. 517 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: Mark Murphy always always understood the number one job when 518 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: you are the presidency over the packers is you have 519 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: that responsibility to the fans, and Mark always remembered that 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: I'm excited for this transition. Now we start to roll 521 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: the ball forward, as Mark said, and there's no right 522 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 3: or wrong way to do this. But he's not going 523 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: to have an office at Lambeufield. He's not going to 524 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: be around here. Ed policy has his phone number. He 525 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: can call him anytime that he wants, has any questions, 526 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: he said, He'll always be there, but this is Ed's 527 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: time now. And Ed has been here for thirteen years. 528 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: He's been extremely successful with everything he's done with the Packers, 529 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: whether it be the title town development, whether it be 530 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: you know, various initiatives that if the Packers have done 531 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: outside of this building. This is the right guy for 532 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: the right time, in the right place here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 533 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: And seeing that torch pass for someone that did not 534 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: go through it. I was at the newspaper at the time, 535 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 3: but I wasn't covering the team in any capacity at 536 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: that point. But to see this happen for the first time, 537 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: and them working together as well as they did over 538 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: the past year to sort of, you know, ease this transition, 539 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: I think the Packers are definitely set up to be 540 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: in a good spot here with Ed Policy at the Helm. 541 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll have some more discussions later on. But 542 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: certainly you know Ed's background and with his dad, Carmen Policy, 543 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: and you know, running the forty nine ers during you know, 544 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: both the glory years and some transition times and whatnot 545 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers back in those days when 546 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Ed was growing up in Youngstown, Ohio and his dad 547 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: is commuting back and forth from from Ohio to California 548 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: and all that. Some interesting stories that we've heard from 549 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: Ed Policy. But as you said, now it is his 550 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: time and uh and yeah, everything with regard to the 551 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: transition I think has has gone as uh as smoothly 552 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: and efficiently as possible. So with that, we'll call it 553 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 554 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: to continue following all of our coverage of training Camp 555 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: on packers dot com, stories, videos, podcasts like this one. 556 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: Everything is out there for you on the website for Wes. 557 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. You 558 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: will see you next time.