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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ross Tucker host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: He works for CBS Westwood One, part of the Eagles

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Speaker 1: pregame yesterday and also on the call Saturday, Connecticut played

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Speaker 1: Army on CBS, and then he worked last night Westwood

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Speaker 1: One the Ravens and the Chiefs. And I think he

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Speaker 1: was at a high school game on Friday night. I

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Speaker 1: get your itinerary correct there, Ross, You know what, Dan?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Yeah? Man, I drove up. I live in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: drove up to West Point on Thursday. Obviously, I watched

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Speaker 1: Washington and the Giants, as you know, production meetings all

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Speaker 1: day Friday with the Yukon and Army coaches and players.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I am an American citizen, Dan. It was

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Speaker 1: a Friday night. So I got in my car and

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Speaker 1: I drove until I found some lights. I actually went

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Speaker 1: and saw Army prep play. But that's what you should

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Speaker 1: do in America on a Friday night. You should find

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Speaker 1: lights and go. So I went and watched Army prep play.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who they were playing. Friday night Saturday,

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Speaker 1: did Yukon Army? I drive home, Dan, I made my wife.

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Speaker 1: I got home at seven fifteen Saturday night, just in

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Speaker 1: time to watch the Penn State White Out game. I

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Speaker 1: made my wife stay up and watch the whole thing

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Speaker 1: with me. Got up Sunday morning Eagles pregame, watched the

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Speaker 1: Eagles in the one o'clock games, drive to Baltimore through

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Speaker 1: the Ravens Chiefs, got home at two thirty, went to

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Speaker 1: bed at three, got up at seven. Now I'm on

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show. We have mad respect for you,

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Speaker 1: we do. Let me ask you the pull question the

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Speaker 1: two and o team that won't make the playoffs. If

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Speaker 1: I said Broncos, Raiders, Panthers, Cardinals gotta pick, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Cardinals, I would go Cardinals out of that bunch.

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Speaker 1: Extremely fortunate to win that game yesterday. You know, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm literally in the booth in Baltimore watching the Red

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Speaker 1: Zone channel as the late game's end, And I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you, man, I know we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 1: It just bothers me. I meant, almost the exact same time.

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Speaker 1: I watched Zeroline make like a fifty six yarder for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win, and Greg Joseph for the Vikings

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Speaker 1: misses like a thirty five yarder, and I feel bad

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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, he's going to go in that

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Speaker 1: locker room and there's over one hundred men just looking

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Speaker 1: at him. He let them all down. Then they go

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Speaker 1: on the plane. It just it still rubs me the

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Speaker 1: wrong way that one guy makes it, one guy misses it,

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Speaker 1: and everything changes as a result. But they answer your question.

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Speaker 1: I just still think Arizona's division is too difficult. You know,

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Speaker 1: they've gotten off to a good start, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're better than the Rams, the Seahawks, or the

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Speaker 1: Niners necessarily. As far as the game last night with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Chiefs, when you looked at that

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Speaker 1: first quarter, what were you thinking was going to happen

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens and Chiefs. Well, I thought it could

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Speaker 1: get ugly. And last night sort of surprised me in

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Speaker 1: the sense that I thought you had to play almost

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Speaker 1: flawless to beat the Chiefs, right, you know, I thought

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Speaker 1: the margin for error was so small, but actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: they thow a pick six in the first minute, and

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Speaker 1: then on their third drive, they're running the ball all

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Speaker 1: over the Chiefs and for some reason, Greg Roman called

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Speaker 1: three straight passes from the twenty four yard line. Lamar

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Speaker 1: throws another pick. That one was all on him and

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Speaker 1: I thought, man, especially when it was thirty five twenty

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Speaker 1: four after that catch and run by Kelsey. But if

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Speaker 1: you follow me on social media, and I know you do, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I knew the Ravens we're gonna win that game in

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Speaker 1: the second half because they had crab cakes at halftime.

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Speaker 1: I am a big believer that it starts with the

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Speaker 1: press box food. You set the tone for the organization

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Speaker 1: and the entire operation. And at halftime when they brought

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Speaker 1: out the crab cakes, check my social media, everybody at

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, NFL. I literally said, I expect the huge

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Speaker 1: second half here from the Ravens, and they delivered. It

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Speaker 1: started with the decision earlier in the week to do

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Speaker 1: crab cakes at halftime. You're sleep deprived? You are? You are?

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Speaker 1: Is there a formula to beat the Chiefs? Well, so

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Speaker 1: and let's be honest, and if Edwards Hilaire doesn't fumble,

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Speaker 1: they still win the game. You know, Bucker makes a

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Speaker 1: that is notable, though, is you can run on them again.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is your best bet is

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Speaker 1: of possession thing. You still need to get some chunk plays.

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Speaker 1: You still need to score points. I almost look at

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Speaker 1: it dan like, and I'm not a big tennis guy,

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Speaker 1: you get the ball. Because they are almost always going

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Speaker 1: to they so rarely get broken, except I think it

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Speaker 1: might have been the last three or four drives that

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Speaker 1: they got no points. That's the biggest shocker to me,

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Speaker 1: because it feels like Mahomes and the Chiefs always come

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Speaker 1: through in those situations. I know, the Ravens not having

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Speaker 1: something here. You can't spy on him. And that would

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Speaker 1: be my approach is let's just spread it out, maybe

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Speaker 1: You know the only reason why I think they don't

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Speaker 1: of misdirection. Now they'll give it to the running back

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Speaker 1: sometimes on those wide runs, just to keep the defense honest.

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Speaker 1: But you are a thousand percent right, Dan, when they're

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Speaker 1: trying to get chunk yardage when they really need it,

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Speaker 1: he is not handing that ball off. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: faking it wide to the running back and he is

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Speaker 1: coming downhill. I gotta tell you, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: former offensive lineman, I love doing the Army games on

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, you know, my rookie year was

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one. The Ravens have the most creative

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Speaker 1: and entertaining run game I've ever seen in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is so fun to watch. They're pulling

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Speaker 1: leading the double tight ends. Greg Roman, their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: deserves a ton of credit because it is. It is

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Speaker 1: really exotic and fun. We're talking to Ross Tucker, host

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Speaker 1: of the Ross Tucker Football podcast also does work for

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Speaker 1: CBS in Westwood One and part of the Eagles pregame

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Speaker 1: for WYP Radio. You believe in in the Raiders. I

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Speaker 1: that game yesterday, you know, after going Monday night game

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Speaker 1: you know Dan, I mean, I can't wait. I hope

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Speaker 1: somebody does a like an MVP frontrunner article this week

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Speaker 1: or that that would be an awesome like radio segment.

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Speaker 1: Who's in the league for the MVP. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like every year somebody fights to see who can be

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Speaker 1: right now conversation. But I'm just saying it's there a car.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has been awesome in the first two

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and Steelers. He's been probably the most valuable

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Speaker 1: I hate these MVP conversations because last week it was

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. That's why we don't have these this early

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Speaker 1: we love to have who's the MVP? You know, is

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Speaker 1: That's that's why we had it Jamis Winston week one

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Great, give it to Derek Carr and then

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Speaker 1: let's see what happens in week three. Here, I did

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about the Cowboys. What stood out

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Speaker 1: and I said, I tweeted this yesterday, Dan, I feel

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Speaker 1: like we need to acknowledge the fact it's been two

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have resigned Zeke. I mean, Zeke is better as

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Speaker 1: a guy that you pay to protect. Yeah, so Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke will probably be gone after this year.

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Speaker 1: They can't keep paying him. The other thing that set

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Speaker 1: I saw Micah Parsons Dan play his third high school

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Speaker 1: And I texted the guys I know at Penn State

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Speaker 1: offered him a scholarship Dan after his fourth game. Think

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Speaker 1: James Franklin gonna be at Penn State next year? I

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Speaker 1: think he is. Yeah. I mean there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: The ad? And by the way, Dan, I love listening

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Speaker 1: and watching because you seem to have better connections and

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Speaker 1: sources for college football news than anybody else does out there.

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Speaker 1: But I just feel like Dan, the ad for USC

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Speaker 1: that would be Fickle. I was told Fickle doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to leave the Midwest. That's interesting. I listen, here's what

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Speaker 1: He really has, I mean, Franklin and a terrific job.

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Speaker 1: What they had Saturday night that auburing him. It's just incredible.

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Speaker 1: But USC is a top five job because in California

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Speaker 1: you are the school and there's more five star recruits.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Even in the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: East Dan, Penn State's third in terms of resources behind

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Speaker 1: Ohio State in Michigan. And not only that, you're always

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Speaker 1: you are the perennial favorite to win the Pac twelve

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Speaker 1: That's Ross Tucker. He was very busy this weekend host

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Speaker 1: I mentioned where a Danette down that's up for debate.

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Speaker 1: I cannot get it out looking through it. I spend

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Speaker 1: maybe two hours yesterday. I'm like, how is born to

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Speaker 1: run number twenty seven? Is it nuts? You got to

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Speaker 1: back away from it? Karen and safe travels there to Ireland.

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Speaker 1: It was brought up to me over the weekend the

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Speaker 1: Rolling Stone Top five hundred songs, and then I found

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Speaker 1: that my kids were mocking me, like, hey, did you

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Speaker 1: know this song was number And I go, stop, don't

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Speaker 1: even do it. I don't, I don't care. It's okay,

431
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Speaker 1: I'm not invested in this. Yes, pot, you should have

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Speaker 1: gone back at your kids and said I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: ranking you from one to five. Oh I have I've

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Speaker 1: done that their faces? Yes, yes, my kids always want

435
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Speaker 1: to know, hey, who's who's your favorite? But it changes.

436
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Speaker 1: All I know is my mom did this with my

437
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Speaker 1: brothers and I and ranked my youngest brother Dave ahead

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Speaker 1: of all of us. And she even said, I go seriously,

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Speaker 1: She goes yes, and I go, wow, did he have

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Speaker 1: a good year or was it like permanent ranking? Permanent? Huh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: David number one? And I went, you gotta be kidding me,

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Speaker 1: And I said, Dave doesn't put you on his radio show? Well,

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Speaker 1: and then I oh God, I would you give me that? Well,

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Speaker 1: but she gave me an honest and we joke, We're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: which one of us you uh you love the most?

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Speaker 1: And she goes, well, I would say Dave, and I go,

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Speaker 1: holy bleep. It's pretty great, though, isn't he? It is.

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Speaker 1: Dave's pretty great. He is great. But and and I

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Speaker 1: can't argue with that. I can only argue that she

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Speaker 1: actually told us that she ranks Dave number one. God

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Speaker 1: Rest her soul. She was honest, too, honest. I'm over it.

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Speaker 1: I am over I think you're so great, Dave. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thinks so great. Yeah yeah, Dave, you a Hall of Famer. Huhm.

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Speaker 1: Update the poll results from the first town of Paulling,

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Speaker 1: which two and O team won't make the playoffs? Broncos

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Speaker 1: forty percent and then the Panthers Raiders Nobody voted for

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Speaker 1: Bringing Albert Breer, I got a lot of questions. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Albert and Albert's really good, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's got answers to this. The senior

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Speaker 1: NFL reporter and lead content strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with DeShawn Watson. Where do we stand

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Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson given that the Texans are now on

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Speaker 1: their backup quarterback Davis Mills. If Mills had gotten hurt

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Speaker 1: Albert who comes in to play quarterback for the Texans, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know it. What's interesting, Dan is that you know

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Speaker 1: I talked to David Culley about this last week, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he basically said that, like he's in a

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Speaker 1: good place with DeShawn and they sort of have an

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Speaker 1: understanding on the way things are going to go going forward,

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Speaker 1: and every indication that you get. Now, he didn't give

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Speaker 1: me specifics on what their agreement is, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it does certainly seem like the idea is that he's

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Speaker 1: basically not going to be playing this year, and he'll

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Speaker 1: be in the building, but he's not gonna be around

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Speaker 1: the team very much, and he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: part of the day to day process of getting ready

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Speaker 1: to play, and so like, I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: he'd be ready to play on Thursday. So my guess

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Speaker 1: would be, Um, you know, I haven't looked at the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, but my guess would be either they pull

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Speaker 1: somebody up from the practice squad or they get somebody

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Speaker 1: off the street to come in. And again, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that as awkward as this is, Dan, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think for both sides, it's just about

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Speaker 1: preserving value at this time, at this point you know

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Speaker 1: where Um, you know, I think the Texans want to

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Speaker 1: preserve Deshaun Watson's trade value. That's the reason he's still

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Speaker 1: on the team. And I think for for Watson it's

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's a matter of sort of protecting

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Speaker 1: yourself in the situation. Okay, but there's an agreement, it

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Speaker 1: feels like without Yeah, so the NFL doesn't want him

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Speaker 1: on the field. I'm guessing the Texans want to preserve

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Speaker 1: his right, uh, you know, or his trade right. And

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Speaker 1: then Watson probably like you want to pay me ten

509
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Speaker 1: million dollars to not play? Then great? So which right

510
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Speaker 1: is that? What's going on here? Like it's like here yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so I mean, like really, if you want the

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Speaker 1: crux of why he's still in the roster and there

513
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Speaker 1: in this situation to begin with, it's because Nick Kissario

514
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Speaker 1: is not taking less. He's not going to take fifty

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Speaker 1: cents in the dollar, and like until somebody steps up

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Speaker 1: and offers the Texans what they would have been able

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Speaker 1: to get in January or February or March, I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're moving him. And you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Nick knows this is his herschel Walker,

520
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Speaker 1: right like, and when it comes to building the franchise out,

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Speaker 1: this is the most valuable piece of capital and I'm not,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I hate to refer to a player

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Speaker 1: that way, but that's where it is. Like in this situation,

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Speaker 1: it's the most valuable piece of capital that he has

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Speaker 1: in the building to build the roster back up. And

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Speaker 1: even if he were to trade him now, like once,

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Speaker 1: he using those picks, not till April anyway, right, So, like,

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Speaker 1: why would you take less now when there could be

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Speaker 1: clarity three, four or five months down the line and

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Speaker 1: you get a whole lot more for him, especially when

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Speaker 1: you know you're in a year when you're rebuilding to

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Speaker 1: begin with. So I think once on the and Cully

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Speaker 1: came to kind of a comfort level with where they are,

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Speaker 1: you know. Again, as awkward as this has been for

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Speaker 1: the last six months, you know, I think that there's

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Speaker 1: sort of an agreement there that the Texans really just

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Speaker 1: aren't going to move him right now. And until somebody,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Dolphins, the Panthers, the Broncos, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and any of the time teams that we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: steps up and makes the sort of offer for him

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Speaker 1: that they would have been able to get before the

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Speaker 1: twenty two lawsuits were filed, He's not going to be moved,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know that's not preferable for Ford

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Speaker 1: Shaun right now, but you know, I do think that

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Speaker 1: at the very least, you know, where this was really

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Speaker 1: sideways two or three months ago, I think David Colley

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Speaker 1: has done a nice job of at least managing it

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Speaker 1: where it's not affecting his team on a day to

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Speaker 1: day basis. Can you explain the Cowboys clock management yesterday

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Speaker 1: in la U? Yeah, it's interesting. I talked to Greg

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Speaker 1: Zoline Zeroline after the game, and you know, I asked him,

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Speaker 1: I said, like, did you feel comfortable kicking from fifty six?

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Speaker 1: He said like, yeah, I'll do what the coaches asked

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Speaker 1: me too. He said, well, did you talk to Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy or John Fossil, their special teams coach either before

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Speaker 1: the game at the half, like when when you guys

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Speaker 1: got the ball back about like how far you were

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Speaker 1: good from? And he said no, he said, I just

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Speaker 1: I go out there and the way that we've already

560
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Speaker 1: done it. We've always done it. The special team's coach

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Speaker 1: was with him with the Rams for a lot of years.

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Speaker 1: He said, like, they have confidence in me. They know

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Speaker 1: how far I'm good from and we're good and so

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Speaker 1: like that was the funny thing about it. Was like

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Speaker 1: Zerline literally told me he was literally standing there a lot,

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Speaker 1: like as the clock was taking down thirty twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: like literally was like, Okay, I guess I'm going out

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Speaker 1: there now, you know. And so it was a weird circumstance.

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Speaker 1: But I do know like the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: he nailed a forty eight yard or the week before,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big one again in Tampa, you know, down

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Speaker 1: the stretch of that game sort of played in the

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Speaker 1: decision making. And obviously also having all of that background

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Speaker 1: with their line did too. So I just thought it

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Speaker 1: was funny that, you know, because you see some teams,

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Speaker 1: like all the Belichick teams, right, it's like before the

577
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Speaker 1: game it's like a science figuring out how far your

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Speaker 1: kicker is good from. And McCarthy and Fossil just sort

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Speaker 1: of let this ride, and you know, in a funny

580
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Speaker 1: sort of way, Zerline told me kind of instilled some

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Speaker 1: confidence in him that he knew that they had that

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Speaker 1: sort of confidence in his ability to get the job

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Speaker 1: done well. Also, the game was tied. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: the other thing. Yep, worst case scenarios you know, you

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Speaker 1: go into it over in time. Trey Lance did not play.

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Speaker 1: Was that by design? I think it's a close game, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think more competitive than some people

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Speaker 1: thought it would be. I also think that the opponents

589
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: always going to play into this, Dan and part of

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Speaker 1: it with the Eagles, there's not a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not like a really a book written on that

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Speaker 1: coaching staff right now. And so not only do you

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Speaker 1: have a new head coach in Nick Sirianni, you got

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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, John Nathan Gannon, who only coached

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Speaker 1: one game, and he's got one of the best defensive

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Speaker 1: lines in football. Is aging a little bit. And I

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Speaker 1: know Brandon Graham got hurt in game yesterday, but I

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Speaker 1: mean that's still one of the best defensive lines in football.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, I think so much of getting

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance in there in spots is about making him comfortable,

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Speaker 1: right and like, let's slowly ramp him up. It's actually

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Speaker 1: what the Niners did with Colin Kaepernick all those years ago,

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Speaker 1: playing behind Alex Smith. And so you know, if you

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Speaker 1: think that it's a disadvantageous situation for the young guy,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to put him out there, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's also a sign. And I know people don't

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Speaker 1: believe the Niners when they say this, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's a sign that they do have confidence one helpsy

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo can get the job done for him. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I know Jimmy feels more comfortable in Kyle's

611
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Speaker 1: offense than he ever has before, and he feels like

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Speaker 1: he's playing his best ball. And so yesterday was just

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Speaker 1: about winning that game. And you know, like that's what

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Speaker 1: Kyle has maintained. Each one of these things is going

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Speaker 1: to be about is just one in that game. And

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Speaker 1: they didn't need trade to win the game yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: they felt like maybe the spot wasn't a great one

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Speaker 1: for a young guy to get thrown out in. We're

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Speaker 1: talking to Albert Brewer, a senior NFL reporter for the

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. Were the Jets are responsible yesterday was

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. You know, I have a hard time with

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Speaker 1: this one because, like I look at the listen to

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Speaker 1: this number, Dan all right, and this is just kind

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Speaker 1: of comparing and contrasting the two situations. Mac Jones had

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones faced I think it was twelve third downs yesterday,

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Speaker 1: right sixteen the week before. Okay, that's twenty eight for

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Speaker 1: the season so far. Only four of those third downs

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Speaker 1: have been third and ten or longer. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: only four through two games has he been in third

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Speaker 1: and ten or longer. So what I saw on one

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Speaker 1: side was the Patriots managed, like very carefully managing their

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Speaker 1: quarterback and trying to build confidence in him and saying,

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Speaker 1: you got a good team around you, We've got a

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Speaker 1: good running back behind you, we've got a good defense.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, I mean, Max still hasn't played

636
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: from further down than a single possession, and it's I mean,

637
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: they're making it easier on him, whereas the Jets, like

638
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: it just feels like they're they're in this spot now

639
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, all right, kid, go win the game

640
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: for us, you know what I mean. Like, and part

641
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: of it's the place that roster is in and everything else,

642
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: but so much of that goes into how young quarterback develops,

643
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, And so like, I know what you're saying,

644
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: you're asking, should they should they have yanked him? Right? Like,

645
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Speaker 1: should they have pulled him out of the game? And

646
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: maybe they should have, because maybe it wasn't good for

647
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Speaker 1: him from a confident standpoint to keep going out there

648
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: and and and throwing it up the way that he did,

649
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, But I think a lot of it sort

650
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: of speaks to, you know, maybe a first year coaching staff.

651
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: I think they have to learn how to manage the

652
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: game a little bit differently. And I think they have

653
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: to learn how to protect their young quarterback and keep

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Speaker 1: him out of those situations where he feels like he's

655
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: got to go win it and um, you know, I

656
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: think if he is in those sorts of spots enough,

657
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: you could develop bad habits. So I think they have

658
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: to be careful with it. The taunting rules are interesting,

659
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: interesting or awful? Well they're awful, yeah, but there's an

660
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: etiquette to taunting. You have to kind of taunt away

661
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: from the guy you just to beat basically, right, it

662
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: feels like I hate rules that are open to interpretation.

663
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: It just gets into that gray area where we as

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Speaker 1: fans go, wait, what do you what happened? Like? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why did you call that? Was it? Was it Jared Cook?

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Speaker 1: The one who? I think Jared Cook went up and

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Speaker 1: did the stirring thing, right, like? Was he the one? Like?

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Speaker 1: And I think that that was that was a touchdown

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00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that got overturned right because of the illegal shift. Yeah,

670
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the Chargers Cowboys game. And I

671
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: was watching that, and Jared Cook's been in the league

672
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Speaker 1: for ten years. He's a pro. It's not like some

673
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Speaker 1: young guy who didn't know how to act, you know

674
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, and he got up, bounced to

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00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: his feet and gestured that really quickly and obviously didn't

676
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Speaker 1: wind up having an effect on the game because the

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: illegal shift sort of superseded the twning foul. But I'm

678
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Speaker 1: sitting there thinking to myself, like, like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that he knew the other guy was going to be

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00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: standing right there when he got up and did that.

681
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: It was just a reaction of emotion. And wasn't that

682
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Speaker 1: what like we were trying to green light like a

683
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: year or two ago when they changed the celebration rules. Right,

684
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Speaker 1: So if you're a player right now, Like, how confusing

685
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Speaker 1: is that you have to like before you get up

686
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Speaker 1: and celebrate, you have to look around and make sure

687
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Speaker 1: somebody's not there, and then like and then you think

688
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: about it, and it's like how much judgment goes into this? Well? Okay,

689
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: like how come that's okay, but or that's not okay.

690
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson summersaulting into the end zone. And I

691
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: think Lamar was fantastic last night and the best story

692
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Speaker 1: of Week two probably, But like, how is it okay

693
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Speaker 1: that he's summersaulting into the end zone and Jared Cooks

694
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Speaker 1: like just bouncing to his feet and doing a small

695
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Speaker 1: little celebration, isn't you know? I just like, I just

696
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: think that this is like they're opening Pandora's box on

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Speaker 1: this one. And if you're a player, it'd be so

698
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: easy to be confused by this because a year ago

699
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: they were telling you, go nuts, do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: We want you to play on emotion. We want you

701
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: to be happy when you score, we want you to

702
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: be pumped and celebrate with your teammates when you make

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Speaker 1: a big play. And now they're turning around and say,

704
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but like we're going to draw these imaginary

705
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: lines around everything that you're allowed to do. What's different

706
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray this year as opposed to last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a really interesting conversation with him

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Speaker 1: during training camp Dan and he basically said, flat out

709
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: to me, I have never lost so much in my

710
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: life as I did the first two years of my career.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you think about him in high school.

712
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: He never lost a high school start when three straight

713
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: big school state championships in Texas right then. He was

714
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Speaker 1: a spot starter at A and M. And I think

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Speaker 1: he might have lost a game or two his freshman year.

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Speaker 1: But he goes to Oklahoma and he wins the hisman

717
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Speaker 1: and I think they lost one game that year. So

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00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: here's a guy in like I mean, seven years of

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: football started maybe one game that he lost, and so um.

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Speaker 1: You know, like just that discussion I had with him

721
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: was really interesting in that it really aided him. And

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, having talked to Cliff about it yesterday,

723
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Speaker 1: you know, Cliff made it sound like he really took

724
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Speaker 1: it to heart, like he took it personally, like this

725
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: isn't what's about, This isn't about what's around me. This

726
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: is about me, Like I'm the quarterback and those losses

727
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: go on my record. And so this offseason he took

728
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Speaker 1: more ownership of the offense and you know, so much

729
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: of it, I think, you know, and Cliff was looking

730
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Speaker 1: to make the team to to to build some maturity

731
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Speaker 1: into the team. And bringing in guys like AJ Green

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Speaker 1: and JJ Watt and Rodney Hudson, and like, while all

733
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Speaker 1: that was going on, like Cliff really noticed Kyler was

734
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: sort of taking ownership of the entire thing, and so

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00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: that meant, you know, having his teammates to Texas to

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Speaker 1: throw in April and May, and you know, having another

737
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: throwing session in Arizona for the guys who couldn't make

738
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: it there, And you know, I think what you've noticed

739
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: and what you see now is a guy who's more

740
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: comfortable out there playing with Endcliffe's offense and understanding what

741
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: he can and can't do in the NFL, but also

742
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: a guy who's so competitive and had I think lost,

743
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: who wasn't happy with the results of his first couple

744
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: of years in the league, and really kind of took

745
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: responsibility for losing in Arizona, even if he wasn't personally

746
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: responsible for all of it. Great to catch up with

747
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Speaker 1: you is always thanks for joining us, Albert, great, thanks, Dan,

748
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: have a good one. That's Albert Breer. You can read

749
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Speaker 1: the Monday Morning Quarterback and it's online. Senior NFL reporter,

750
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: lead content strategist. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

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Speaker 1: app search f SR to listen live. I had research

754
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Speaker 1: go back and see if we've had two picks sixes

755
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: by the same guy in less than four minutes. Miami's

756
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: Mike Kazlowski versus the Jets in nineteen eighty three, he

757
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: returned two touchdown two pick sixes in a span of

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Speaker 1: sixty one seconds. Sixty one seconds, two touchdowns. Carson Palmer

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Speaker 1: joining us, Now, have you ever had multiple pick sixes

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Speaker 1: in a game? Morning? Dan? First of all, first off

761
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: six five, two thirty eight because of this morning. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've had two. I know I've thrown

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00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: one a handful of times in games, but two makes

764
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Speaker 1: you want to go crawl up underneath that injury tent

765
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: on the sideline and hide. What's it like, though, when

766
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Speaker 1: when you throw it and you want to make the tackle,

767
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: but you probably know you shouldn't make the tackle. But

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Speaker 1: what's that mentality when you throw an interception? Gotta make

769
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Speaker 1: the tackle? I mean it hurts when you throw a

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Speaker 1: pick obviously for your own fan base and as a

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00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: player and as a quarterback, you're worried about your teammates.

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Speaker 1: You're worried about letting your team down. You're worried about

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00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: defensively statistics. You know, those guys on the other side

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00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: of the ball in your own locker room don't want

775
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: to give up points, and those points go on the

776
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball and the defensive head, the

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00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator stats. So as the quarterback, you just feel

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00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: bad that you let your team down and you got

779
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: to make that tackle and make up for the bad

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00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: play you made. Can you help me understand the taunting

781
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: rule that I don't know where it came from, like

782
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: who complained about it? But it's a big deal. And

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Speaker 1: trying to understand these taunting penalties now of what is

784
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: celebration and what is taunting? Yeah, I mean it's when

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Speaker 1: the league decides to start a new rule and enforce

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00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: a new rule, like you know, a defenseless receiver or

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00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: leading with the crown of the helmet or hitting a

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00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: quarterback low. They come with a vengeance and they come

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Speaker 1: with force, and as fans and as players, you know

790
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: they end up they end up most likely average themselves

791
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: out as frustrated as you get when you have a

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00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: big third down sack and your defense is gone off

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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: the field and that flag comes out. You know, it

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00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: hurts when you think it's a bad call, if it's

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00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: a late hit on the quarterback or a personal foul,

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00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: but they end up as a season continues to go on,

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00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: typically averaging out and some of those calls end up

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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: going your way and you're not as mad then. But

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Speaker 1: did you ever have one of those moments where somebody

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Speaker 1: taunted you or you like, what is over the line

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00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: and taunting in your opinion, well, from the league stands now,

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00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: you can't even really look at a player after you

803
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: make a good play in his direction, say anything, or

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00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: spin the football or you know, you just can't do anything.

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00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing that we would go through

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Speaker 1: in the team meeting rooms after games when coach have

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00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: put up the personal fouls or whatever it was from

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Speaker 1: the week before. Everybody gets pissed that they threw a

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00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: flag and it could have lost the game or it

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00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: could have changed the game. But you know, at this point,

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Speaker 1: as a defender or an offensive player, when you make

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00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: a great play, you just need to look up in

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Speaker 1: the stands and talk stands because as soon as you

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Speaker 1: turn to another player, that flag's coming out the rest

815
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Speaker 1: of the season. Okay, explain this to me. Lamar Jackson

816
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Speaker 1: has a touchdown where he does his summer sault into

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00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: the end zone. Now he's not taunting anybody, but it

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Speaker 1: feels like he's taunting everybody on that defense by doing

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Speaker 1: a somersault. Carson, I think if he would have gotten

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00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: done with a summersault, jumped up and spun the football

821
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Speaker 1: in a defender's face or said something to a defender,

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Speaker 1: they might have thrown it. But like I said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: when the league decides to make a change, the league

824
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Speaker 1: comes up with a new rule, you need to just

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Speaker 1: ride that way. Some of them are gonna go for you,

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Speaker 1: some of them are gonna go against you Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I wondered if Baltimore would just go empty backfield and

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Speaker 1: let him stand back there and either add another lineman

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Speaker 1: or another wide receiver. But how difficult would that be

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Speaker 1: to try to stop him? Or maybe I should ask

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Speaker 1: how difficult would that be for Baltimore to have that

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00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of philosophy on off him. The problem with the

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00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: reason they can because they have fifteen more games and

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00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: they need they need Lamar to stay healthy. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love watching that guy play. He's one of the

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00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: most exciting players in the league right now outside of

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in my opinion. But you got fifteen more

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00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: games of Lamar and you got to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 1: There's so much he wants to do with the football.

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00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: He wants to put a shoulder and defenders, he wants

841
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: to run guys over. But again, you got a lot

842
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: of football left and they need him on the field.

843
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: If he's not on the field, there a completely different team.

844
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Speaker 1: But do you want exciting? You know, Kyler Murray's exciting,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's exciting. Matt Jones is not exciting. You know,

846
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: there's certain guys by design. Exciting always feels like you're right,

847
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: you're teetering on the edge of something could be unbelievable,

848
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: but it could be unbelievably bad as well. Yeah, and

849
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: when you think about the best to ever play, Brady's

850
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: as unexciting as it gets. And he's got a whole

851
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: fist full of Super Bowl rings. So exciting sales, tickets,

852
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: exciting get you Monday night football games if you're an owner.

853
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, consistency is what

854
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: you want. You know, Brady's been really a you know,

855
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: the the epitome of that. It's not super fun to watch.

856
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: I'd much rather sit around and you know, watch a

857
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray run around and make plays. But at the

858
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, Brady gets it done time and

859
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: time again. But as a quarterback, when you would look

860
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: at game film did for the upcoming opponent? Did you

861
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: ever look at the opposing quarterback and help your defense

862
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: in anyway? Like, could you see things that could help

863
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: your defense? Would that ever be part of your role? No?

864
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I mean at the NFL level, the defensive coaches are

865
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: so good they're seeing what probably your own quarterback is seeing.

866
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: So you know, when when you start studying for a

867
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Sunday game on Monday or Sunday night, you're so focused

868
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: on what you're doing on offense and so focused about

869
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: the game plan and the formations and all the adjustments

870
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: you have with the line of scrimmage, you don't have

871
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: the capacity or the bandwidth to study also the opposing

872
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: team's quarterback. So you know, quarterbacks are worried about themselves

873
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: and perfecting their game as much as they can. We're

874
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: talking to in Palmer Heisman Trophy Winner. Of course, spent

875
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: fifteen years in the NFL. You were part of Hard Knocks,

876
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: weren't you? Was that twenty fifteen? No? I did Hard

877
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Knocks probably in like twenty eighth, nine, ten, and then

878
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: we did the Amazon series in twenty fifteen. But oh

879
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: or nothing. Did they spend a week with you on

880
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: just watching how you prep for a game? I did

881
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: that with Peter King. Peter King did a deal where

882
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: he came and stayed with me in Arizona and kind

883
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: of walked him through what it's like to play quarterback

884
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Wait, he stayed in your house in Arizona. No,

885
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: he was in Arizona for the week. He came over

886
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: to my house at night when I was studying and

887
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: would just kind of it was really awkward. I was

888
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: sitting in my office at night, my kids were asleep,

889
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: my wife was in bed, and I was over in

890
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: the office, you know, sitting there studying, and I would

891
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: kind of look out of the corner of my eye

892
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: and Peter was sitting on the couch just watching it.

893
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: It was really kind of eerie. But let's go creeps

894
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: the best. He's willing to, you know, to sneak into

895
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: somebody's house at you know, eleven o'clock at night and

896
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: watch him study. And then he was there first thing

897
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: in the morning, jumped in my truck and road to

898
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: work with me. Okay, but what would I see if

899
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: I watched you study prep for an opponent? I think

900
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: everybody's different. I know some guys like to kind of

901
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: sit back, you know, on a couch and take notes.

902
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: I always had to be sitting at my desk and

903
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: I had my computer connected to a TV on the wall,

904
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: and I had my notebook out. It's just hours and

905
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: hours and hours. Everybody does a little bit different. I

906
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: would start and just draw up every possible blitz that

907
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: team had run in the last four or five weeks,

908
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: and then go through all the protections we were using

909
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: that week and make sure all the protections matched up

910
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: and find the ones that don't match up where where

911
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: you don't have a way to pick up a specific

912
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: blitz on defense, and figure out how I was going

913
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: to get into the game and adjust that. So, I mean,

914
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: it's just every guy's different. Everybody has a different routine,

915
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: but a lot of it sits sit to the desk

916
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: with a computer and a TV in a notebook drawing

917
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: and taking mental notes and dropping down notes. How often

918
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: would you design a play? Never? No, Well, now I

919
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: do all the time. I'm coaching seventh grade football in Idaho,

920
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: so I'm coming up with all kinds of stuff now.

921
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: But I played for some great ones, I mean Bruce

922
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: Arians and on down the list. And if I ever

923
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: tried to walk into Bruce's offense and show him a play,

924
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I would run. You would hear so many mfs. Get

925
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: out of my office. That's my job. What are you doing?

926
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: So I knew my role. I stayed in my lane

927
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: and I just tried to execute the plays that the

928
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: coaches drew up. How can you explain Jameis Winston that

929
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: he giveth and taketh away, that desire to maybe not

930
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: have that whatever it is that says throw it away

931
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: like gunslinger Brett Farve could do it. But he also

932
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: threw three hundred interceptions in his career. Yeah, I mean,

933
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, this is obviously a huge year for Jamis um.

934
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's had some greatness like in Week one

935
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: with the five touchdowns, and and we've seen some greatness

936
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: of you know, from a handful of years he was

937
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: in Tampa but you know, when it consistently shows up

938
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: in different offenses, when you got different jersey on a

939
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: different helmet, at some point, you know you're running out

940
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: of you're running out of runway. If it continues to go,

941
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: I would I would uh. I mean, they're only one

942
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: in one, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't be shocked if

943
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: you saw, you know, a little bit more of the

944
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: dual threat there in New Orleans right now, with both

945
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting more and more action with some of the

946
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: decisions that he's been making as of lately. If USC

947
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: asked your opinion for the next head coach, you know,

948
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't have one guy on the top of my list.

949
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of really good candidates. I

950
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: just like that we've got full position. You know, we

951
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: we fired our coach first, so we're starting the process

952
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: right now. And there's been years where you know, you

953
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: see a team that waited a little too long fired

954
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: a coach and that coach would actually have rather gone

955
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: to that place, that university, or that that organization, but

956
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: they had to take a job because somebody fired somebody earlier,

957
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: and they started that recruiting process the next head coach.

958
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know who it's going to be.

959
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that Mike balland knows who it's going

960
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: to be just yet. I just like that we're the

961
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: first ones out the gate. Every coach out there knows

962
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: that our job is open. I would think it's an

963
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: attractive job for every other college coach and just you know,

964
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: most NFL guys. So we've got poll position, we've got

965
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to hire the best of the best when

966
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: these guys come available. That atmosphere of Penn State this

967
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: weekend against Auburn, that whiteout was unbelievable. The toughest environment

968
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: you ever played in was where man. I loved going

969
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: to Baltimore watching that game last night, Kansas City in

970
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: Baltimore last night. There's something special about Baltimore about college.

971
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: Did you have college? Well, I went to Florida State

972
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: as as a freshman and the Peter Warwick Chris Winky

973
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: National Championship here and we got absolutely drum But that

974
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: place rocks. When when Florida State is good, they're in

975
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot going on in Tallahassee. Everything that's happening

976
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: in Tallahassee is in dope. Walker stadium and being in

977
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: that environment, you know, with the chant where the whole

978
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: ClOH it is really really special and unique. Do you

979
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: understand now that when we watch a game, we think

980
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: it looks easy at times because of the angle of

981
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: the TV, you know, the cameras when like you watch

982
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: it now and you're going, god, guy's wide open, how

983
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: could he miss him? But when you were playing, you

984
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: probably thought, you guys don't understand what it's like to

985
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: play quarterback. You know, the crowd noise and there's blitzing,

986
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: And this is why fans think, God, how did you

987
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: miss that throw? It looks easy? I know what an idiot?

988
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: That guy was wide open? Yeah, you know that. That's

989
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: what makes this game so great is everybody can be

990
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: a coach, everybody can be a Monday morning quarterback. Everybody

991
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: thinks could have, should have, would have done this, done that,

992
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: And and to be honest, there was multiple times I'm

993
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: watching film on Monday, I'm like, man, I can't believe

994
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: I missed that easy throw. And man, I can't believe

995
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: he caught that or I squeezed that in that window.

996
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: But that's why being a college fan an NFL fan

997
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: is so great, right, now is we all get to

998
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: have an opinion. We can go on Twitter, we can

999
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: blow somebody up, we can go to Instagram. All that.

1000
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Belichick was asked about if Brady thought Brady could play

1001
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: till he's fifty. You know, Tom has talked about that.

1002
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's serious about it, but Belichick,

1003
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: in his belichick and way, he said, well, if anybody

1004
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: can do it, it's Tom. Could you be fifty years

1005
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: of age and play that position that's so old, it's

1006
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: so so old. You know, I thought forty four was on,

1007
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, unachieved, but I wouldn't put it past them.

1008
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it just comes down to at some point.

1009
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know myself. You know, I've got twelve

1010
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: year old, my oldest or twelve, and at some point, man,

1011
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you're I missed the first practice, I missed their first game,

1012
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: I missed an entire their entire soccer season or football

1013
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: season or whatever it is. At some point your kids

1014
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: really start to grow up. You know, it's different when

1015
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: they're three, four or five years old, but when your

1016
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: kids are going into their teenagers and you're not going

1017
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: to practices and you can't take them to school, and

1018
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: you start missing out on some of that. You know,

1019
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: I think that's probably on his radar right now. And

1020
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: six more years is just six more years of missed opportunities,

1021
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: because because as we all know as parents, the kids

1022
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: are gone fast, they're out of your house fast, and

1023
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: they're off to college or whatever's next. So at some point,

1024
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, I think Brady's going to have to make

1025
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: that decision. It's going to be more of a family

1026
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: decision and less of you know, can my body do this?

1027
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Can my arms still have that same zip and that

1028
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: same velocity on the football? I think it comes down

1029
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: to him more of you know, I want to be

1030
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: around my kids before they head off to college. Yeah,

1031
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: he could always do what I did and just you know,

1032
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: basically not see them for a few years when I

1033
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: did second shift at ESPN. It worked out well for me.

1034
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how my kids are, but you know,

1035
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's the best thing to do. I got to

1036
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: do that and didn't have any guilt there. Carson exactly. Yeah,

1037
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: but you know, now you're a grown up, you know

1038
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: your parent, coach, You're done at all all the right

1039
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: reasons there. Hey, it's great to talk to you again,

1040
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks Dan, have a

1041
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,560
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