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Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it. Welcome back everybody. This is the

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Speaker 2: last official Colts podcast before training camp fires up next week.

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor going to be back. Casey Value is back

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Speaker 2: in studio. Jay J. Stangovitz is back in the office

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Speaker 2: for the first time since April fifteen. How you do it? Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's summer now, jajlcome back, buddy, It's a little hot

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Speaker 3: You know, other people took the week after the fourth

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Speaker 2: Why I haven't been in since it was spring, Like,

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Speaker 3: That's why I missed you guys too.

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Speaker 2: Oh I do the long weekend. The long weekend is

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Speaker 3: When you do a long weekend, are you a take

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Speaker 2: and interesting and fascinating trip to Europe. Tell us about

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Speaker 3: So it started with a one of my best friends.

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Speaker 3: And then from there we went to Paris for a

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Speaker 2: What was the total count? Six days?

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Speaker 4: Set yourself on. You're six, she's gonna be expecting something.

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Speaker 4: Come on now, I mean, if you go to your up,

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Speaker 2: great to have you back. I'm glad that your Europe

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Speaker 3: Nine hours at the Newark Airport to make sure we

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Speaker 3: to the United Club at the Newark Airport for just

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Speaker 3: being a great spot. Would highly recommend buying the one

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Speaker 3: Get that club pass for sure.

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Speaker 2: For sure. The true MVP of travel right there, that

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Speaker 2: is the offensive line gelling at the beginning of camp.

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Speaker 2: New position coach Tony Sperano now leading that group, and

434
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 2: will Bernard Rayman closed the door on the competition for

435
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: his spot at left tackle, right, will he grab the

436
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Speaker 2: bull by the horns on that and say, this spot

437
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Speaker 2: is mine, This is what I've been groomed for, this

438
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: is what I've been working towards all off season. So

439
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: those storylines rank those in order. I know it threw

440
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Speaker 2: a lot at you, JJ and any other ones that

441
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Speaker 2: should be on there that didn't make my initial list.

442
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Speaker 3: So I think if we're looking at the things I'm

443
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Speaker 3: gonna look for, first, number one is obviously going to

444
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: be the quarterbacks. How are the reps divided up? Because

445
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Speaker 3: that's something that you know, the stuff I look for

446
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 3: first is the stuff that I want to track throughout

447
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: camp how it develops. So that's going to be number one.

448
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 3: I think Number two then becomes who who's getting the

449
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: first crack at being starting outside corners and start tracking

450
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Speaker 3: that throughout camp. It does it change a week into camp,

451
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Speaker 3: two weeks into camp?

452
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Speaker 5: Right?

453
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Speaker 3: Does it not change at all? Because the people who

454
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Speaker 3: started at the outside corner spots at camp hang on

455
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Speaker 3: to it throughout camp. Number three is gonna be Shack

456
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Speaker 3: Leonard's availability. That's one where Okay, what is he able

457
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Speaker 3: to do? How can we start tracking that at start

458
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Speaker 3: a camp and see what progress he makes from July

459
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Speaker 3: twenty sixth through August seventeenth. The pass catchers one, I

460
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Speaker 3: think is really interesting because there are so many different

461
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Speaker 3: ways that could go. I know we've talked about it

462
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Speaker 3: a little bit with you know, the Colts could be

463
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Speaker 3: an eleven personnel heavy team with three wide receivers on

464
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Speaker 3: the field and one tight end, or they could be

465
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Speaker 3: a twelve personnel heavy team. If two tight ends emerge

466
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Speaker 3: out of that group, then you have two wide receivers

467
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Speaker 3: two tight ends. So just kind of tracking how the

468
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Speaker 3: personnel is grouped with those guys and just the top

469
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Speaker 3: pass catchers, and then I think lastly out of that

470
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Speaker 3: group is going to be offensive line. That's usually something

471
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Speaker 3: where you want to see the same five guys playing

472
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Speaker 3: together as much as possible, but you don't necessarily need

473
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Speaker 3: to settle on that immediately. Usually, like midway through camp

474
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Speaker 3: is where you probably want to start getting a starting

475
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Speaker 3: five together, so you know that will be okay. Does

476
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Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman leave no doubt that he is starting left

477
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Speaker 3: tackle and then right guard? Where do you go there?

478
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Speaker 3: There's kind of an open competition there with some guys

479
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Speaker 3: who have been here, you know, like Will Fries, you know,

480
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: some guys who are new like Emil ekiyor the undrafted

481
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Speaker 3: free agent ont of Alabama. Could one of the draft

482
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Speaker 3: picks the Colts had, who you know, is ostensibly a tackle,

483
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Speaker 3: could they maybe slide in to the guard position and

484
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Speaker 3: just kind of see where that goes? So to kind

485
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Speaker 3: of recap quarterback one, cornerback two, shack Leonard three, wide receiver,

486
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Speaker 3: pass catcher four and O line five.

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Speaker 4: You know, uh jj, I try to hide my answers,

488
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Speaker 4: but I think we have the exact same list. I

489
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Speaker 4: I one through five is the same and everything you said,

490
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Speaker 4: I agree with the one thing I will add, and

491
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Speaker 4: this is me. I think I've been bullish on it

492
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Speaker 4: the whole time. When it comes to offensive line, I

493
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Speaker 4: ranked them fifth, and it's maybe because I've just I've

494
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Speaker 4: seen you got those three core guys with Kelly, Quinton,

495
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Speaker 4: and Brayden. I've seen them play at such a high

496
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Speaker 4: level at throughout my time here, and I am just

497
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Speaker 4: ready for them to kind of get back to that.

498
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Speaker 4: So I continue to say they'll bounce back. So that's

499
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Speaker 4: kind of why, you know, when I put offensive line

500
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Speaker 4: so low on my list, which is a very important thing,

501
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Speaker 4: especially with Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew. You got to

502
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Speaker 4: be able to solidify upfront for those guys to be successful.

503
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Speaker 4: But I think that is you know why I rank

504
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Speaker 4: the list the way I do, because I just feel

505
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Speaker 4: like that five it's going to be okay when everything

506
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Speaker 4: rolls around.

507
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Speaker 2: I mean, outside of quarterback, I think you guys are

508
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: spot on, But for me, it's got to be the

509
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Speaker 2: offensive line and then the secondary and whatever order you

510
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Speaker 2: want to put it in doesn't matter, because I think

511
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Speaker 2: the Colts need to stay healthy during camp at those

512
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: positions really because the Colts are just a few injuries away, yeah,

513
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Speaker 2: right from having a lot of youth and inexperience potentially

514
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Speaker 2: blocking for a rookie quarterback. Right, I mean, if Braden

515
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: Smith or Bernard Rayman, if they get hurt in camp,

516
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have young guys and like a Blake Freeland,

517
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Speaker 2: who's a rookie, a highly touted rookie, yes, in the

518
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Speaker 2: third round, but a rookie nonetheless playing you know, in

519
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: important snaps and having an important role. And he's gonna

520
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Speaker 2: have an important role no matter what this season. But

521
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Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, right, And then the same

522
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Speaker 2: thing in the secondary, Right, if Kenny mor gets banged

523
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: up hypothetically in camp, then you have really nobody at

524
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Speaker 2: corner or at least in that secondary that has played

525
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: significant time in the NFL at the cornerback position. Now,

526
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: these don't have to be problems per se, because you

527
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: do have talent, and you drafted these guys where you

528
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: did for a reason, and these guys can always step

529
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Speaker 2: up and take advantage of opportunities. But it's just the

530
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Speaker 2: reality of where the Colts are at, and that's why

531
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Speaker 2: those storylines for me are at the top. And then

532
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Speaker 2: someone will say listening to this, like Shaquille Leonard's got

533
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Speaker 2: to be number one or at least number two behind

534
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson considering how good he is and what he

535
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Speaker 2: means the defense. And I'm not going to disagree with that,

536
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Speaker 2: but I would say that you've got EJ. Speed and

537
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Speaker 2: you've gotten Tire Franklin. These guys can play. Yes, of

538
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: course you want Leonard back on the field because of

539
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: all the things that he can do. He can change

540
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Speaker 2: the game, and he goes after the football, he takes

541
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Speaker 2: it away, he takes points off the board. All of

542
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: those things are absolutely dead on accurate. But Franklin and

543
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Speed can play in this league at a very high level,

544
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Speaker 2: and that defense can still produce at a high level

545
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: with those guys in there.

546
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Speaker 3: But and real quick bitey, just to you know, for

547
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Speaker 3: our listeners, you're not playing with three linebackers on the

548
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Speaker 3: field all that much. So to your point on that,

549
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: your base defense is going to probably only have two

550
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Speaker 3: linebackers the one you're going to play on eighty percent

551
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Speaker 3: of the snaps and games. You know, it's not like

552
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Speaker 3: Shack is. He's a great player, you want him out there,

553
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: but you can survive and do more than survive with

554
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Speaker 3: Zaire and EJ as the two linebackers out there.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. I mean that's what happened last year.

556
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: EJ Speed played a lot of on defense. Obviously, Zaire

557
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: Franklin was a mainstay within that unit, setting the franchise

558
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: record for single season tackles. But I'm just saying depth

559
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, the secondary that's gonna be evaluated

560
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: and graded every single day given just the newness and

561
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Speaker 2: the inexperience at those spots going into the season. All right,

562
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: let's talk some more camp storylines. Let's talk more about

563
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson as he gets ready to embark on his

564
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Speaker 2: rookie training camp. Someone that's been helping him along the

565
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: way is Tom Gormery. He is the owner of Torque

566
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Sport Performance. He's Anthony Richardson's trainer and throwing coach. Tom

567
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: handles Richardson's performance, his medicals, his skilled development, and he

568
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: is his quarterback throwing development and biomechanics czar as well.

569
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Speaker 2: And he was at the team facility during OTAs and

570
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: he is training with Richardson actually this week as we

571
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Speaker 2: sit here and talk right now before camp and He

572
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Speaker 2: joined us earlier today to talk about ar in his

573
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Speaker 2: upcoming season. Tom gormerly is our guest. He's been working

574
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Speaker 2: out with Anthony Richardson all off season leading up to

575
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Speaker 2: training camp next week for the Colts. Tom, thanks for

576
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: the time today, sir. How are you.

577
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

578
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me absolutely so. I read during the

579
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Speaker 2: pre draft process you worked with Richardson for about six

580
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: hours every day, which includes this week. As we sit

581
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: here and talk right now going into training camp, let's

582
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Speaker 2: start at the beginning, if you don't mind. How did

583
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: your relationship with Richardson come to be in terms of

584
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: how you work with him and handle him right now

585
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: presently speaking going into camp.

586
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we have a close relationship with a relationship

587
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 5: with a few quarterback coaches around this area as well

588
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: as nationally, and Anthony's longtime quarterback coach kind of dating

589
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 5: back to his middle school and high school days is

590
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 5: Denny Thompson in Jacksonville who owns six Points, and so

591
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: Denny had a connection with Anthony. Obviously, we had worked

592
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: with Denny on quarterbacks before, as well as Will Hewlett,

593
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: who kind of is independent but also works with six Points,

594
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: and so before the senior season at Florida. We got

595
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: him put in contact with Anthony's team right before the

596
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: season and kind of pitched our process and our development

597
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 5: process of what we had done with our NFL quarterbacks previously,

598
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: what we had done obviously with Brock Purdy during the

599
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: previous combine prep, and how we focused on a very

600
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: individualized development platform to improve throwing biomechanics and throwing mechanics

601
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 5: as well as your traditional sports performance programming. And Anthony

602
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 5: and his team kind of bought into that approach, and

603
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 5: so we kind of knew during the senior season that

604
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 5: once the season was over we were going to be

605
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 5: able to get our hands on him and get dialed

606
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: in and really developed the draft process around fixing some

607
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: inefficiencies but also highlighting what he's really special at and

608
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 5: what makes him a unicorn as both an athlete and

609
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: a thrower.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So a lot to unpack there, And like

611
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Speaker 2: you said, you structure Anthony's training, his medical program, everything.

612
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Speaker 2: So for those that don't know what that means and

613
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: what all that entails, can you explain that maybe in

614
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: more detail, just how you're making him better those six

615
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: hours a day for long periods of time going into

616
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: his rookie campaign.

617
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean everyth's is still obviously has some

618
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: comprehensive nature. Ours is tailored specifically mainly to throwers, So

619
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Speaker 5: there's a little bit added complexity, I think to it

620
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: when it comes to biomechanical analysis and motion capture and

621
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Speaker 5: a few other throwing based things that we add in there.

622
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Speaker 5: But essentially, when you have an athlete of a high level,

623
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Speaker 5: right whether it's our professional baseball players, our NFL quarterbacks,

624
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: position players, whatnot, the goal is to build a program

625
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: around them that is addressing each part of their development

626
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 5: model and each part of their system that might be

627
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 5: limiting or enhancing their output as an athlete. So when

628
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 5: it comes to building a structure around him, we have

629
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Speaker 5: a sports science system in place that takes a motion

630
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Speaker 5: capture analysis of Anthony basically high motion captures as well

631
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: as force plates of him throwing in the beginning of

632
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 5: his off season or the beginning of draft prep, and

633
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: from that analysis, you're going to understand what his efficiencies

634
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: and inefficiencies are as a thrower. And then you need

635
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 5: to get him on a table and you got to

636
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 5: assess his joints and his tissue and his capsule and

637
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: the mobility he has in his hips, spine, ankles, knee, shoulder, elbow,

638
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 5: right and figure out is some of these limitations coming

639
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 5: from the joint structure itself or is it coming from

640
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: motor learning, motor acquisition how he moves as an athlete.

641
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 5: Obviously not in Anthony's case, but in other athletes case

642
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: is it coming from their lack of strength or their

643
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: lack of power or their lack of stability. So we

644
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 5: measure them with a forced velocity profiling system that we

645
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: have in house when it comes to lifting, jumping, landing

646
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: out force plates really understanding what their reactive strength is

647
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: and what their capacity is for and power output, and

648
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: when you put that all together, you get an understanding

649
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 5: of both the athlete but also the way the athlete moves,

650
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: and then the way that the athletes power production and

651
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 5: movement plays into how they're able to access that throwing specifically,

652
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: which in his case is what's most important as a

653
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: threat quarterback. And you kind of put together this large structure,

654
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: and then that leads to the daily environment, which is

655
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: medical that's addressing tissue limitations, tissue restrictions, capsulear restrictions, or

656
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 5: the preventive medicine side, which is making sure his hamstring

657
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: stays strong, making sure that his spine stays mobile and

658
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: his backstays from getting stiff and tight from all the throwing,

659
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 5: taking care of his arm, his arm cares, arm prep,

660
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: doing off his rotator cuff, and Perry scapular strengthening, as

661
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: well as all of his pre throw and postal routine

662
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: to warm his arm up, and go through plio drills

663
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 5: to focus around scale acquisition and patterning drills to get

664
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: him into a better pattern for when we pick up

665
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: a football. And then you have all your classic training, right,

666
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: all the stuff that made him run a four to

667
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: four and jump forty inches right, So the classical training

668
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: power output side that makes an athlete that he is.

669
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: So when you're kind of structuring all of that stuff

670
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: throughout a week and you're undulating days or manipulating the

671
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: days throughout a week, it ends up being you know,

672
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: five six seven hours each day throughout the week that

673
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 5: some of it is turning up bath lead and being

674
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: really sympathetic and getting a lot of drive and really

675
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 5: putting out power, and then some of it being really

676
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: parasympathetic and working out recovery and regeneration and tissue work

677
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: and mobility work. And that's really what it takes to

678
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: build a high level system around a complex athlete, especially

679
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with throwers that they have all the

680
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: regular demands of a football player, an NFL football player,

681
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 5: and all these added demands of a thrower and armcare

682
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: and armhealth.

683
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: How has Anthony taken to that, tom in you know,

684
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: from the moment you got him in to now on

685
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: the precipice of training camp, because it does sound like

686
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: a lot, but he also has come across as someone

687
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: who's committed to whatever it takes to be a successful

688
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback.

689
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when when Anthony's in front of you, you

690
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 5: are going to get his full attention. Right. He's a

691
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 5: quiet kid at heart, right, So he's pretty detail oriented,

692
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 5: but he does it in his own unique way, right.

693
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: He quiet, he's listening, he's observing, right, He's very observant.

694
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: And he takes a little bit of time for Anthony

695
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: to buy in to your system, not in a negative

696
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: way at all, but he's asking questions. He's trying to

697
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 5: understand why you're doing something, why he's doing something. And

698
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: once he understands the why and how this is going

699
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: to help with Xyz that maybe he's witnessed on the

700
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 5: field before he's bought into that structure, right, and not

701
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: once during I guess it was like fifteen weeks I

702
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: think leading into OTAs that we had Anthony. What he

703
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: was like time ever a factor was like being in

704
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: the facility too long, ever a factor, or going over

705
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: motion capture, or sitting down and reviewing film, reviewing, throwing film,

706
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: talking about why this drill should be added and this

707
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 5: drill should be taken away. He wants to do whatever

708
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 5: he tend do to make himself successful, and as much

709
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: time as that takes and as much detail as that takes.

710
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: He was Game four, He's still Game four. We went

711
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 5: through it today, obviously throwing out of the field and

712
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 5: really breaking down where we're seeing some shift from pro

713
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: day to OTAs to post OTAs and what we're trying

714
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 5: to dig into to make sure that when he's back

715
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 5: at training camp he's back to feeling as on time

716
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 5: and as sequence stuff. Because there's a lot of stuff

717
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: going on around him right besides the playbook and cognitive

718
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: processing and learning all his teammates and learning terminology. It's

719
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: really making sure that the sequencing and the design of

720
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: the throwing system around him that will get him into

721
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 5: the best places and the best feelings is still there.

722
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 5: And he's he never asked a question about like how

723
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 5: long is this going to be? When's it going to

724
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: be over? You know, when he's there, he's bought in.

725
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: He's detail oriented and that's always fun to work with.

726
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: Now.

727
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: One of the things we constantly hear from young guys

728
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: as they make their way to the NFL you get

729
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: in combine shape and then it takes you a little

730
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 4: bit of time to get to that NFL shape from

731
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 4: your standpoint when you first got your hands on Anthony

732
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: and your getting him into you know, quote unquote combine

733
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: shape to get him to in these pre draft everything

734
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: to get his stock so high. How different is that

735
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: from where we are now?

736
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think with quarterbacks they're sometimes a

737
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: little different because on both sides, sometimes they're not doing

738
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 5: anything physically at the combine where Anthony did. We wanted

739
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: to showcase what he could do physically, right, right, But

740
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: our process is a little bit different here. And what

741
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 5: I mean by that is we really don't train them.

742
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: Between myself and will we don't train them for the Combine.

743
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 5: We actually train them that entire time, very similar to

744
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: how we program our NFL offseason, right, So we're basically

745
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: digging into an NFL offseason program and running into the

746
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: Combine with that, because to our opinion tell our athletes

747
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: is that this is the most uninterrupted time you will

748
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 5: ever get to develop as a better thrower, a better quarterback,

749
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 5: and a better athlete probably in your entire career. And

750
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: so spending that entire time focused around three drilled athletically

751
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: and ten routes is kind of a waste of time

752
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 5: in our opinion, right, So instead we spend that time

753
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: developing what we find really important that we already do

754
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: with our NFL quarterbacks, and towards the very end we

755
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 5: worry about just peaking to the Combine or peaking to

756
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: specific tasks that are gonna be at the Combine. But

757
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: realistically we're not overly focused on the NFL Combine. We're

758
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 5: focused on developing the best NFL quarterback. So really after

759
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: the Combine, we just kind of pick up with the

760
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: off season training and there's not that big of transition,

761
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: at least in our side.

762
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: Tom I alluded to this a little bit earlier. Maybe

763
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: I put the cart in front of the horse. But

764
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: what's your involvement been with the Colts, Because I said,

765
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: I know you're at OTA's in the spring with Richardson.

766
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: What kind of relationship do you have with the Colts

767
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: and Shane Steichen and how do the Colts view this

768
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: partnership if you will, trying to get the best out

769
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson from me re angle, Yeah, So, I mean, I.

770
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: Think in the the past, we've obviously worked with Gardner

771
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 5: and we've also worked with Anthony. So we just so

772
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: happened had two of your guys quarterbacks now and then

773
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: Sam's down here now is now I guess we have

774
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 5: the whole quarterback room in some capacity. But they had

775
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 5: they had obviously with chatted with them during the draft

776
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 5: process as they were getting to know Anthony, and they

777
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: had kind of heard and seen what we did with

778
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 5: like our motion capture analysis and how we tried to

779
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 5: build customized plans around each thrower. And so the last

780
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 5: week of OTS, they brought myself and Chris Hessen, who

781
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: is a motion capturing analyst that works for consults with

782
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: a few different NFL teams and kind of wanted to

783
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: see us go through the process with quarterbacks, like what

784
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: did we do during our off season processes? How do

785
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 5: we take this motion capture analysis and just kind of

786
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: explain what we see in motion capture, what we see

787
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: with deficiencies, inefficiencies, things that those athletes are really good with,

788
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: and how we then structure design around them and that

789
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: that that like symbiotic relationship, that back and forth conversation,

790
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 5: that collaborative nature between like your private staff that you

791
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: have in the off season and the team staff is

792
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: what really makes it seamless transition for the athletes. So

793
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: it's in the athlete's best interest. We could speak the

794
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 5: same language, we get friendly with each other, and in

795
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 5: the long term it helps out the athlete because it

796
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 5: seems like a much more steady transition instead of feeling

797
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: very disjointed where you have just like team thinking this

798
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: over here and then like off season performance thinking this.

799
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 5: So really just getting us together, collaborating ideas, sharing ideas,

800
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: understanding where Anthony Garter and the bunch come from and

801
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: where we like to see them going, what we've seen

802
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: success with and where they can implement that while this

803
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: season goes on.

804
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: When you've coached up Anthony, and you've gone through these

805
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: drills and and all these things. Just how have you

806
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: seen him absorb the coaching you mentioned? You know that

807
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: he has your full attention when you're talking to him,

808
00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: but actually applying the teachings you're giving him and and

809
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: growing from them. How have you seen that process go

810
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: with Anthony?

811
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, I mean the way we teach is we

812
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: use in a fancy term, dynamic systems theory, or constraint

813
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: based learning or dynamic ecologics. They're all fancy terms for

814
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 5: basically saying you're trying to teach movement and systems to

815
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: an organism by constraining pieces of their movement or their

816
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: environment or their task so that they can find the

817
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 5: optimal way to solve the problem. So instead of saying

818
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: like lift your arm or you know, throw more flat

819
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 5: or rotate your hip, which might be a part of it,

820
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: we try to use a drill based scenario in which

821
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: you can give them biometric drills or overloaded or underloaded

822
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 5: implements and use pieces of the movement in order to

823
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: constrain their movement pattern so that they can find a

824
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 5: more efficient pattern. So what that really relies on from

825
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: Anthony is trusting us that what we're trying to teach

826
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 5: and move and alter is the correct thing, because it's

827
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: so you're trying to like a little bit of their

828
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: throwing pattern, right, So you've got to build trust for

829
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: the athlete first. And then number two, it's really about

830
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: feedback from him because instead of me coaching him or

831
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: will coaching him and telling him what to do, we're

832
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: often giving him player drills or med ball drills or

833
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: exercises in the weight room that should shape improve movement patterns.

834
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 5: And we explain what the pattern we want is and

835
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 5: we let him discover the best and most efficient way

836
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 5: to shape it underload. And then once we put the

837
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 5: football on your hand, we don't really want to do

838
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 5: much talking. We want feedback from the athlete and see

839
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 5: if they can feel the disassociation or the new hip

840
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: pattern or the de cell on the front leg. And

841
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 5: when we see a good result of a good ball,

842
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: we want to know what they selt from that result.

843
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 5: And then after that feeling that allows us to just

844
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: manipulate what drills or what patterning we're going to use

845
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 5: in the future. And so Anthony has always been someone

846
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 5: that will throw probably first rep, not say anything, second rep,

847
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: not say anything, but he might repeat it or mimic it,

848
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: mimic it with like a dry throw, and you kind

849
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: of get to learn your athlete, right, so you kind

850
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: of know that that's from sinking through the rep and

851
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: then throw maybe the third rep and then he'll give

852
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: us seedback on it, and then we might ask a

853
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: directed question and he has an answer. He's like, no,

854
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: I didn't feel this, or hey, that's felt good. What

855
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: did I do differently there? Right, Like he is inquisitive,

856
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 5: he wants to know, he knows what he wants to feel,

857
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 5: and he's he's picked up over time obviously a really

858
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 5: gains understanding of like what he wants to feel, what

859
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: is efficient mechanics, what is inefficient mechanics? And he is

860
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 5: actually an extremely natural throat, an extremely natural thrower of

861
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: the football. Right, he contrary to maybe like something's pre

862
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: draft process when people there was lot articles ran about

863
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 5: him about like different inaccuracy issues and how he threw,

864
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 5: but like that's not the case. If you have motion

865
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 5: captured data on him, if you understand throwing sequencing, he

866
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 5: is a natural throw of the ball. He understands how

867
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 5: to leave that throw with his televis, he understands how

868
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 5: to get into a fish and hip shoulder separation. He

869
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: has a good arm path. It's really little pieces to

870
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: his puzzle of deceleration and playing a little bit flatter

871
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 5: and allowing natural arm patterning to happen, and not trying

872
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 5: to throttle his throw so much with his arm or

873
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: with his front knee, but instead just at which the

874
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 5: rate at which he rotates right. So it was little

875
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 5: pieces to the puzzle that you're basically nudging him and

876
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: tinkering with drills, and all it takes from him is

877
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: the buy in to understand what we want him doing,

878
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 5: which he always has and he's always asked directed questions

879
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: and he's always been open and honest to his steal

880
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: And if you get that from an athlete, it's really

881
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 5: impactful to how you can develop really custom programs for them.

882
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 5: So obviously and all, yeah, like he was bought in

883
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: for day one. He's been bought in. He's trusted us

884
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: through the process. He's obviously seen the results. As the

885
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 5: process was going on, he was spinning it better, he

886
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: was throwing it better, he was feeling accurate. He felt

887
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 5: like he could do anything with the football on the run,

888
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: on the move, whatever. Once the athlete sees that and

889
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: gets that buy in from themselves because they see it obviously,

890
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: then you just take off in those last five six

891
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: weeks combine prep and Pro day prep, and then eventually

892
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: Dotia's were really special. Obviously, he was spinning at an

893
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 5: elite rate, and that's obviously where we're trying to carry

894
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 5: it all the way through the season.

895
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 4: Now.

896
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: I think, you know, fans listening to this here in

897
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: Indianapolis are probably gonna wonder about how this all helps

898
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: Richardson's accuracy because you mentioned he's a natural throw of

899
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 3: the football. His velocity on his throes is it seems

900
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: like it's top tier. Well, the drills he'd been going through,

901
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: have you noticed Anthony being more accurate where you're just

902
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: kind of tweaking these little things biomechanically that will lead

903
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: to more consistent accuracy with the football?

904
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for sure, yes, right, And like obviously yes,

905
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: there were some accuracy issues. I do think some of

906
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 5: the accuracy issues are overblown personally, if you go back

907
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 5: and actually watch all of the film and you see

908
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 5: some balls that are like not caught in windows that

909
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: were tight and the ball was placed in a good window.

910
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying balls hit your hands drops like

911
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: when you I think encounter everything. The accuracy issues are

912
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 5: a little bit overblown, but Anthony will be the first

913
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: one to tell you too, like, yeah, he wasn't. The

914
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: most accurate involves and a lot of it could be

915
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 5: tied usually into little faults. Right, So some throttling the

916
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: throw with his arm, right, him trying to decelerate or

917
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 5: accelerate his arm at release was one of the first

918
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 5: things we saw, and that obviously creates a two way miss, right,

919
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: So like you're pulling your arm through the zone and

920
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 5: trying to almost guide it or aim it to a spot,

921
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: and that's one of the easiest ways to be inaccurate.

922
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: You can't aim to a spot. You got to throw

923
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: it to a spot, and you need your system to

924
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: be organized in a very efficient, tight window to when

925
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: you say go and you rip your hip and then

926
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 5: your arm follows, you just release it. And so that's

927
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: obviously the first thing to work on. And then the

928
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 5: second thing is we notice a little bit of over rotation,

929
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: like he actually moves his pelvis so well and he's

930
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: so powerful that he would get a little over rotated

931
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: on his left side, so he would almost like keep

932
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: rolling out of a throw and never have a firm

933
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 5: stop point with his front side, and that causes your

934
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 5: arm to obviously create this like right to left motion

935
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 5: continuously and you got to kind of pick the perfect

936
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 5: time to let go of that ball. And so working

937
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: on those little pieces to the system and understanding what

938
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: does it feel like to block with your lead leg

939
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: and really decelerate so that your arm only has one

940
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: window to release from starts to gag. You start to

941
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 5: see him like okay, out route dot dot dot right

942
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 5: instead of like okay, a little low, a little bit

943
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: behind and then a dot right. He didn't need to

944
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: feel it out as much. The first throw was accurate,

945
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: and that's obviously the part that you want to get to.

946
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: And we saw that improvement, uh leading into OTAs and

947
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: then you go throw tas and now he's back kind

948
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 5: of in the in the in the pre training camp timeframe,

949
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 5: and some of it hangs around perfectly. And obviously, like

950
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: any thrower, throwing is like a golf swing, it's a sequence,

951
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: so you always kind of go, you know, you go

952
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 5: in and out of it a little bit you get,

953
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: you get a little bit off off pattern, and you

954
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: just have the right drills and the right little things

955
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: to kind of bump you back into the feeling of

956
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: being a fishing again. Right. And that's the key to

957
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 5: understanding is that all throwers are always working on something.

958
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: They're always working on their accuracy. They're always working on

959
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: sequencing at any level highest level that you could be

960
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: a ten year NFL VET, They're always still working on

961
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 5: maintaining a good swing right or a good stroke when

962
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 5: it comes to throwing. And that's where he is, right.

963
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 5: It's just that continue maintenance. Now now that he knows

964
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: the feel of good sequencing when he's on and he

965
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 5: feels good, he's dotting balls all over the place, it's

966
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: just me taking that now right and finding in the

967
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: structure for him that maintains it throughout the season.

968
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: Final thing for me, and this might sound like a

969
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: really dumb question, but I just want to know when

970
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: you hear the outside noise, everybody's an expert. They have

971
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: all the answers on how to make Anthony Richardson this quarterback.

972
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: He has to do this, this, and this. When you

973
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: look at it from being the actual expert and you're

974
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 4: working on stuff, does any of that stuff ever creep in?

975
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: And when it does, like right now, one of the

976
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 4: big topics right now is his footwork, Like how much

977
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: of that outside noise are you guys well aware of

978
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: prior to it?

979
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll be honest with you, like an our team,

980
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: when it comes to like Denny myself, will the guys

981
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: around Anthony on the training side of AJ my strength

982
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: coach here, we're not. We're kind of like the athletes essentially,

983
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 5: meaning like I'm not paying much essentially anything when it

984
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: comes to like what the media is putting out or

985
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: what Twitter is saying, right like, we don't care because

986
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 5: we have the data essentially right through capturing his motion

987
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: of what we know we want to work on. Right,

988
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 5: and he's not perfect, No athletes perfect. We know there's limitations, areas,

989
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 5: and there's things to work on. You also don't mix

990
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 5: everything in one night, right, You don't fix everything in

991
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 5: three weeks. It's a continuous process of learning and developing

992
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: throughout your career. And Anthony understands that too, right, And

993
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 5: he also knows he's going to make mistakes, like that's

994
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 5: going to be part of the process. But he is

995
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: continually improving day in and day out, and that's the

996
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: that's what you want. You want data backing up what

997
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: you see with your eyes, and then you're using that

998
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 5: data and that assessment to make actionable change. And as

999
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: long as we continue to make actionable change with him

1000
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 5: for the better, you'll continue to get a better, better,

1001
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: more efficient quarterback. And so yeah, we're we're the most critical, right,

1002
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: just like the athletes the most critical of themselves. We're

1003
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 5: the most critical events, right, and he knows that. And

1004
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 5: we will talk exactly about what we think is efficient

1005
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: and inefficient and what's working and not working. So we're

1006
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: always looking for ways to optimize their movement, their game,

1007
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 5: they're throwing, and we're not just here playing like saying

1008
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 5: of Anthony. We're obviously super close to him, but it's

1009
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 5: our job to make sure that he's as good as

1010
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 5: he can be. And that comes having a critical eye,

1011
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: and he's always down for that. He wants to hear

1012
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 5: what he can do to get better. And so I'm

1013
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: not sure that we're concerned about like the outside noise,

1014
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 5: right because we're trying to figure it out on our

1015
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 5: own anyway. Right, We're trying to figure out what we

1016
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: think is efficient and inefficient.

1017
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: Tom last one, You've been so gracious with your time.

1018
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: We've certainly learned so much. It's been I can only

1019
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: speak for myself, really eye opening this whole process and

1020
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: all that you do to help players like Anthony Richardson

1021
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: and as you said, Gardner Minshew and Sam Ellinger. But

1022
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: this is a loaded question. I understand that, But this

1023
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: is kind of coupling off of JJ's question earlier. But

1024
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: what gives you confidence that Anthony can succeed and have

1025
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: success as a rookie? And I'm talking I'm not talking about

1026
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: the physical tools, more so of what JJ talked about earlier,

1027
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: talking about the ability to handle all that comes with

1028
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: playing quarterback and handling that position at the highest level,

1029
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: not only dealing what you have to deal with on

1030
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: Sundays but Monday to Saturday, media and marketing and the

1031
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: locker room and being a leader. What gives you confidence

1032
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: character wise at Anthony Richardson.

1033
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, first and foremost, I'm going to just like

1034
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 5: kind of give you the easy answer, which you just

1035
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 5: told me I wasn't allowed to answer, But I'm going

1036
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 5: to answer, which is that is an absolute unicorn, right,

1037
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: he's the best athlete to ever play that position. And

1038
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 5: so you have literally a unicorn playing quarterback. Right you

1039
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: can do anything physically, and that is a get out

1040
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 5: of jail free card, right that that is, That is

1041
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: what that is. But on the flip side, when you go, hey,

1042
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 5: I want to have still the ability to be an

1043
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 5: elite classical quarterback, which is what he wants to be, right.

1044
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to just utilize his freak nature, right,

1045
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 5: he wants to be really really good and really really

1046
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: efficient the way you see all the great quarterbacks right

1047
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: now doing it. And then he knows he has this

1048
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 5: other gear and other capacity right to be able to

1049
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 5: run and jump over you and run over you. Right Like,

1050
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: he's a big, strong, powerful individual. But when you know

1051
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: Anthony right and you get to know Anthony, you his

1052
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: personality is so engaging and he leads in a unique way. Right,

1053
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 5: He's not going to be a raw ra guy like

1054
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: that is not who he's going to be. But he

1055
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: is an extremely caring individual, right Like, he cares about

1056
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: everything about his family, about his circle around him, about

1057
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 5: his teammates, about his team, and that ability to truly

1058
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 5: care for other people, be empathetic is what will help

1059
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: him be a leader of that team because he wants

1060
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 5: to succeed. He wants to see other people succeed, and

1061
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 5: he wants to set his team succeed. And that natural

1062
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 5: drive he has in himself like he wants to be great.

1063
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to just be an NFL player. He

1064
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 5: wants to be great, and he wants to listen to people.

1065
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 5: He wants to learn from people. He's incredibly young, as

1066
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: you guys know, right, He's incredibly inexperienced, as you guys know, right.

1067
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: He has not played a bunch of quarterback in his

1068
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 5: entire life, like going back to high school, and so

1069
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 5: all of that is going to have bumps in the road.

1070
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: He's going to have learning curve, especially at the NFL.

1071
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 5: We know that, right. But he is a resilient dude

1072
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 5: that is willing to put in work, willing to put

1073
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: an effort, and willing to take criticism. He's willing to

1074
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 5: take coaching. He's willing to take hard information and put

1075
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: work in to improve it. And at the end of

1076
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 5: the day, all you're looking for from an athlete is

1077
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 5: the ability to take the coaching and work his ass

1078
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 5: off to improve, right, And that is what he's really

1079
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 5: good at doing. And when you take that and you

1080
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: mix it in this unicorn athlete, then you have a

1081
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 5: really really special ability. So obviously excited to watch him

1082
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: put it on display when he gets his chance to

1083
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 5: play right, whether it's right away or whether it's a

1084
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: little bit into the season, whatever it is, he'll be prepared.

1085
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: And he loves putting on a show, right Like he

1086
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 5: loves the spotlight. He loves the pressure. You saw him

1087
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 5: at the combine. That is Anthony right, Like when it's

1088
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: time to run the forty when everybody, and I think

1089
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 5: people don't really understand like the pressure behind that. There's

1090
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: a lot that goes into running a forty, especially when

1091
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 5: for the last ten weeks all we heard is how

1092
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 5: he's gonna break the combine, he's gonna have the best

1093
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: forty of all time, like all that stuff. Like there's

1094
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 5: some pressure on you then to go do it right,

1095
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: to go make sure that that run you hit right.

1096
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 5: The difference between four four to two whatever he ran

1097
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: and four five five is not that different. So in

1098
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: order to really be lightning quick, it's like everything has

1099
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: to be right. Go warm up, the intent, the focus,

1100
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 5: the preparation, and then it's time to put on a show.

1101
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 5: When you put on a show, he's having fun, right,

1102
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: So we always say, and Anthony, that's having fun, and

1103
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 5: Anthony that's dancing and ant like that. Anthony is a

1104
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 5: segerous Anthony, right, And that's it. It's keeping the game

1105
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 5: fun for himself, is keeping himself energized and energetic around

1106
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: it and understanding there's gonna be bumps on the road,

1107
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: You're gonna have mistakes, but you keep that confidence, you

1108
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 5: keep that swagger, you keep making plays, and you have fun.

1109
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 5: And when he's having fun, he's dangerous. And so obviously

1110
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 5: we're excited to wear what he does.

1111
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: For sure, Tom, thank you so much for your time. Man,

1112
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: If this sports performance stuff doesn't work out for you,

1113
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: I think you have a career in motivational speech. Agree.

1114
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh I'm ready. I'm ready for cam. I mean you

1115
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: can mold me. I'm a ball at play, Tom, Let's

1116
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: see what we can do past.

1117
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just maybe it's a secondary career. But honestly,

1118
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: because I'm also a physical therapist, right, so yeah, a

1119
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 5: lot of your life as a PT, like on the

1120
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: PT side of stuff and on the training side is

1121
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: is psychology. Right, It's like there's no doubt that whether

1122
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if it's Anthony or any of our guys, Right,

1123
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 5: if you're with me for fifteen weeks, five six days

1124
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: a week, for seven hours day, like you're gonna have

1125
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 5: some down dates, right, Like just in general, just the

1126
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: drag of the process is going to get to you, right.

1127
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 5: So it's making sure that you're athletes understand the why

1128
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 5: behind everything, right. And if you understand the why and

1129
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 5: you understand that like, hey, we believe in you, we're

1130
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: buying into you, we're bringing the energy for you when

1131
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 5: you can't bring it, that is what makes a successful

1132
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: relationship over the long term. And when an athlete trust

1133
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: you and you have the right scientific backing behind your programming,

1134
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: that's where you really see development happen. And obviously I

1135
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: think that's been the case with a lot of our

1136
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: quarterbacks here with our system, and Anthony's no different, no.

1137
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. You can definitely sense the trust and

1138
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: Anthony and Anthony's trust and you based on how you

1139
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: speak about him, based on how you talk about your relationship.

1140
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: So tell Gardner and Anthony and Sam we all said hello,

1141
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing those guys next week at camp,

1142
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: and pleasure speaking with you and meeting you over the phone,

1143
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 2: getting your experiences working with all those guys. Continued success

1144
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for squeezing us in during

1145
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: your busy schedule here.

1146
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 5: For sure, no problem. Look forward to seeing them succeed

1147
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 5: out there and you all having success out an India.

1148
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: That's Tom Gormerley from Torque Sport Performance. Some fascinating insight

1149
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: right there from Tom, his work with Anthony Richardson and

1150
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: his development improvement even from the off season workout program

1151
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: heading into training camp. A lot has been done, a

1152
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 2: lot has been accomplished. So looking forward to the fruits

1153
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 2: of Tom's work with Anthony starting next week in training camp.

1154
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: And you can tell everything that Tom and Anthony have

1155
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: been working on quite intentional. No randomness there, unlike our

1156
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: random thought of the week to close out from j.

1157
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: J random thought, Oh the.

1158
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 3: Week and why is the carcot ole?

1159
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: Went Todd? I don't know, Marco.

1160
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: You guys going out of Tom do if it's cold

1161
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: there for these vans, get good cat smiling.

1162
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Shut shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up?

1163
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: All right, JJ, you were gone for eight days. You're

1164
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: a world traveler. Now you saw some culture, you observe

1165
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: some different ways of life. Surely something random popped in

1166
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: your rain over the course of a two week hiatus

1167
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: on vacation.

1168
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 3: Do I drink enough water or do I not drink

1169
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: enough water? Or does it matter? So that's that's where

1170
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 3: we're going.

1171
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: It's not a health podcast.

1172
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: Okay. So the europe does a lot of things well.

1173
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: Their nap culture undefeated. We need to we need to

1174
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: bring in European nap culture.

1175
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: They also have a different work schedule, right.

1176
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: It's incredible, Like the European work schedule, their attitude toward

1177
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: work so much better than the America. Not even close.

1178
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: Naps encouraged. It's a great, great continent.

1179
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: Not as much stress.

1180
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: No. The one thing Europeans do.

1181
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: No way, Why the hell did you come back?

1182
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know, Well for this, Europeans don't drink enough water.

1183
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: You go to a restaurant, you go to a cafe

1184
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: in Europe and they'll give you this teeny little glass

1185
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: and a bottle of water, and there you go. And

1186
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: like I come back to America and you go to

1187
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: a restaurant and you get a pint glass full of water.

1188
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm sitting with my my Stanley mug, like because I'm

1189
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: very basic, and it's forty ounces of water, and I

1190
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: chugged through a couple of those a day. So I'm like, okay, yeah, boy,

1191
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm back in America. I can drink water again. This

1192
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: is great. And then i read an article that was

1193
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: basically like you know that whole rule of like you're

1194
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: supposed to drink eight glasses of eight ounces of water

1195
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: a day, it's just bs doesn't even matter. So I'm like,

1196
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: wait a minute, am I drinking too much water? Am

1197
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 3: I not drinking enough water? Who's right about water consumption?

1198
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: Europeans or Americans? I have no idea. Now my brain

1199
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: is scrambled. I think it's still Americans, because I like,

1200
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, drinking water is good, but it has apparently

1201
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: no health benefits other than if you're thirsty, you should

1202
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: drink water. But the Europeans it's like it's like eighty

1203
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: nine to ninety five degrees in France and like everyone's

1204
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: sweating bullets, and I'm like, where's the water, Give me

1205
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: a beer?

1206
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 4: Water?

1207
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: But that okay. Everyone just drinks wine and I'm like

1208
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: that's great, except like wine doesn't keep you hydrated. Yeah,

1209
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: I need water.

1210
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 4: That's interesting.

1211
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: According to Health and Wellness dot Com, three point seven

1212
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: liters per day is recommended for men fifteen and a

1213
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: half cups or one hundred and twenty five ounces. For women,

1214
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 2: it's eleven point five cups ninety one ounces. This says

1215
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: about twenty percent of your daily fluid intake usually comes

1216
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: from food. The rest you get from drinks. But instead

1217
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: of counting how many ounces you're drinking, listen to your body.

1218
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: Drink when you're thirsty. Try to consume water slowly throughout

1219
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: the day. Casey, you're always drinking water. I'm a good

1220
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: water guy.

1221
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: I so for me like like I like a soda,

1222
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but like there are times when

1223
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: and I love my water ice cold, Like I want

1224
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: it so cold that.

1225
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: You all of a sudden you're not feeling Europe.

1226
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would str I'm that guy that when

1227
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 4: I go to a restaurant and this is this is

1228
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: no stab it because I do like fine dining. But

1229
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: a lot of times you'll go a place and they'll

1230
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: you'll give you the picture of water without ice in it,

1231
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 4: and they'll pour it into my glass, and I'm like,

1232
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 4: I don't want to be the guy that asks for ice,

1233
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: but I really need this to be cold. And they're like, well,

1234
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: we just got it from I'm like, I understand that

1235
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: you got it from a cold place, but I wanted

1236
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: to stay in that cold place the entire time. Like

1237
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 4: I like the ice on your lips, like I almost

1238
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: want it to hurt going down. I want it so

1239
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: cold that I'm like, you know what I like.

1240
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1241
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: So when it comes to water, I love ice cold water.

1242
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 4: Now room timperature water, I'm good. I don't I don't

1243
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 4: drink it. I will pass it. So for me, more

1244
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: water the better, But it's got to be really really cold.

1245
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: Are you guys water snobs? When it comes to bottled water,

1246
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: like you have to buy Ice Mountain or it has

1247
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: to be Desani. My wife is very much a water snob.

1248
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: She will only buy Ice Mountain.

1249
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: That's how my brother was.

1250
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: If they don't, if they don't have Ice Mountain, she

1251
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: will settle for a Kroger brand. And you know, I mean, listen,

1252
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure it comes from different places. That's why they

1253
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: can sell it. That's why they can market it. I mean, listen,

1254
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: two hydrogens and one oxygen, right, I'm good. It's water

1255
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: is water, it is a it's an essential part of

1256
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: your life.

1257
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: That's funny because I'm one of those like I'm not

1258
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: like a brand snob, but there are certain things like

1259
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: when it comes to ketchup, it's either hinds or hunts.

1260
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: I don't go anywhere else. I don't get the Kroger brand,

1261
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: or but when if we go with water, I don't care.

1262
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: The thing is, I feel like I can taste the

1263
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: difference sometimes when you get like you get like that

1264
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: bottle of Stigi that's like eight dollars at the airport.

1265
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm not sophisticated, but like you get that once You're like,

1266
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: I can taste the difference compared to, you know, the

1267
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 3: Kroger brand. But then I'm like, but it's still just water, right,

1268
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: who cares?

1269
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: Right?

1270
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: Like, it's not like it's not like me going between

1271
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: drinking a grocery drinking eating a grocery store steak that

1272
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: you're putting ranch dressing on, versus.

1273
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: How about that we always go back to that, right,

1274
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 2: We can always find a parallel to bring that back

1275
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: good for us, that's awesome. I feel great about myself.

1276
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: Bad frea fantastic well, there's gonna be a lot of water.

1277
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Segue, it's gonna be hot.

1278
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: That'll be to Sani I think is the water that

1279
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: they provide to us in the media.

1280
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: Though, yes, Casey got to be cold.

1281
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 3: Pitch for it.

1282
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be over on Matt Conte saying I need

1283
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: I know you've got a lot of media here, but

1284
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: this this water's warm. Holy smokes. Speaking of camp, we're

1285
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: gonna be loaded up at camp. As we said earlier,

1286
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: our podcast will originate from Graham Park in Westfield for

1287
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Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. Chris Baller is gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to the media on Tuesday, so a full recap of

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Speaker 2: that coming up next week on our podcast, the Colts

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Speaker 2: Reunion podcast that closes out for the summer this week,

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Speaker 2: myself and Bill Brooks our guests this week. Ray Donaldson,

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Speaker 2: one of the great Colt centers of all time nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighties nineteen nineties player, played seventeen years in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: So a great conversation with Ray this week up on

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Speaker 2: the Colts Audio Network. We've also I had great conversations

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Speaker 2: with Dallas Clark, Adam Vineri, Anthony Costanzo, and Edrin James

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Speaker 2: on top of our conversation with Ray Donaldson. So check

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Speaker 2: all of those out this week on the Colts Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: kind of scroll back into the feed to pull those up,

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Speaker 2: those conversations that happened earlier in the summer, and then

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Speaker 2: the last Word is back. This week myself and Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Gorman will preview Colts training camp coming up next week

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Speaker 2: and have a look around the AFC South and the

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Speaker 2: Colts with former NFL GM Randy Mueller. He is now

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Speaker 2: in the XFL, but does a great job covering the

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Speaker 2: NFL for the athletic putting all of his work in

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Speaker 2: the NFL front offices to good use. Guys, what do

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Speaker 2: you got going on this weekend? Your last weekend before

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Speaker 2: things started getting nuts?

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Speaker 5: Ja?

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Speaker 2: Ja, how are you going out with a big bang here?

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Speaker 3: Gonna just spend some time with the family, yep, and

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Speaker 3: you know, go do some stuff. We went to the

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Speaker 3: Children's Museum last weekend. Maybe maybe turn out the zoo,

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Speaker 3: you know, just try to get you know, squeezing the

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Speaker 3: rest of that family time, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 3: think the Colts coaches are doing this week, you know,

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Speaker 3: spending more time with family. Hey, you know, knowing that

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Speaker 3: once we get up the training camp, there's not a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of time. No, you know that that's the

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Speaker 3: grind of the season, that's the work you get into.

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Speaker 3: But no doubt, you know, really credit to you know,

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Speaker 3: Shane stike In and the Colts for really emphasizing that

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Speaker 3: time with your family before training camp. It's really important

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Speaker 3: to get that and uh you know, hopefully I can

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Speaker 3: get a little bit of it uh here this weekend

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna be hitting up the Hamilton County

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Speaker 4: four Age Fair this weekend up in my neck of

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Speaker 4: the woods up north. I got a my wife has

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Speaker 4: a baby shower, and I've got a beer and diaper

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Speaker 4: party that is like family included. So I'm going to

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Speaker 4: bring the boys to the beer and diaper party. We

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Speaker 4: don't need to repeat. This is not gonna be that.

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Speaker 4: I know JJ missed out. I'll have to clue you

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Speaker 4: in off off camera. That was that was a rough

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Speaker 4: one JJ for for me and the fourth I don't

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Speaker 4: really remember too much of it. But anyway, more diapers, Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's more diapers, beer, But yeah, that's what I.

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Speaker 3: Got to have.

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Speaker 2: The R Show needs to play out. We'll have fun boys,

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Speaker 2: enjoy time with the family, soak it in and get

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Speaker 2: ready for football. Training Camp starts next Tuesday, first practice

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Speaker 2: Wednesday again one final time. Colts dot com slash camp

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Speaker 2: for the practice dates and times and to download your

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Speaker 2: free ticket for JJ Casey. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: listening to the official Colts podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: wind Bet, and we will talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Football's here on the Colts Audio Network. So long, everybody,