00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're own presences, presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: To surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm pretture Winneker. We're here, you're here. I'm glad you're listening to the podcast rather than doing something stupid like reading or talking to a loved one or I don't know, improving your life. This is where you need to be. You know what I thought as I came into the studio this morning is it's been a long time since I've had a life check. Throughout public school, you're getting lice checks and then suddenly they're gone. 00:01:19 Speaker 2: I might have lice. 00:01:21 Speaker 3: So that's something that our guests will have to just deal with. I mean, my life is rich and full. Everyone knows my life is rich and full. Don't ask anything. I'm wearing a cute top, and I expect you to be doing the same. If you can't see it, you're obviously listening. 00:01:35 Speaker 2: More. If you're watching it. 00:01:36 Speaker 3: On YouTube, you get to enjoy my cute top for as long as you want. Is there anything else going on? Let me look at my business. No, No, just more right wing rhetoric. Our guest is out of control already. He's been on the show before during the you know when he you know, we'll get into that probably or maybe not. Maybe I'll avoid the topic. I well, everyone loves today's guests. I have a lot of problems with him. It's yes or leicster. 00:02:08 Speaker 2: Yes, just top three things you hate about me right now? Well, you're hideous okay, Yes, I think that's just a constant problem. Yeah. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Personality and you don't loan me money. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: That okay, that is legitimate. But the other two I can't do anything about. I should be giving you. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: You should be giving on a weekly basis. Stipend. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, so stipend to have a stipend. 00:02:35 Speaker 4: Have like I I think about once a week. I'm like, what if you just had like a bene factor or. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: Even a controlling spouse. 00:02:44 Speaker 3: Truly, if I like, the spouse can do whatever they want if I get the stipend. 00:02:48 Speaker 2: Are you? Oh my god? The idea of like I was on Instagram and I saw this woman who, by the way, I really I do. 00:02:58 Speaker 4: Outside of the right wing rhetoric, there's the white right wing rhetoric kind of saying right right wing rhetoric, but it also always, you know, that's if that's the tree, the branches are always kind of like weird fringe conspiracy. And so what got into my algorithm was this woman sitting at like a beautiful infinity pool and she's like the caption is something like everyone remembers me as like the Connecticut hedge fund wife until one day I woke up and realized I was seeing demons and vampires and that was the actual essence of everyone's soul that I had been friends with. But like I was like, okay, ay, like why. 00:03:40 Speaker 2: Are you messing your money up? One? Right, just keep the money. But two it's like, but you're still living the life I think unless that was an old video that you put the caption on. But it was interesting in the sense that I was like, oh, like everyone so messed up that you, even like rich just used to be its own person anality. But now we need a secondary. 00:04:02 Speaker 5: It's not enough. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: You now need to become broken brain exactly possessed it is. Yes, yes, so this but her new her new take is I see demons. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: She's a very rich claar of I was like, yeah, but that's why I think it's well they usually but they start poor and then then becomes the money. But I was like, wow, you started with money and then was like, I also. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: Need this new opportunity to scam. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: People's that she's that board, rich that board at this point, she's a clear for the love of the game, You don't. You don't see a lot of those. 00:04:45 Speaker 3: That's somebody who's really just for the purity. Yes, exactly, Wow, I should get in touch. Yeah, I hit a quick save on that Instagram so. 00:04:55 Speaker 2: More than now, your algorithm is gonna. 00:04:58 Speaker 5: Be feeding you. 00:05:00 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely it's that. And it's a lot of like homemade Russian horror clips. I know, it's great, sounds good to me actually, just like people in Russia who make like these, like literally like thirty second short horror. 00:05:13 Speaker 2: Films, Like I don't know, it's really it's interesting because you're like the Internet is so terrible, but then you're like, I never would have seen this, and like I clearly am a huge Russian horror short version. 00:05:25 Speaker 3: No one knows you like the internet knows you, right, exactly, like what are they putting in these horror videos. 00:05:31 Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of it so weird. 00:05:33 Speaker 4: It's like a young woman like going through a house and it's dark and it's empty, and they also all of them do this. 00:05:40 Speaker 2: They put on a VHS like cam quarter film. Oh sure, she looks found footage. Yeah, and it's like them like. 00:05:46 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's very it's very it's very like, uh, I'm trying to think of the It's like when you go to a barber shop and everything is leather. 00:05:58 Speaker 2: It's like the same where you're on something exactly exactly. I'm not buying that, yes exactly. 00:06:05 Speaker 4: It's just very my first barship, my first horror film. But it's like them looking through a house and then like they always end with them seeing an evil version of themselves like across the room, like making a crazy face, like and then they go and it. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Ends I'm gonna get into this, I'm gonna start making you know what. I saved a few and I'm glad. 00:06:30 Speaker 3: They're probably making so much money. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: I mean, well here's the thing. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: And it's like, look far be it for me to know anything about like what what's the money they spend in Russia. 00:06:39 Speaker 2: The rouble is. 00:06:41 Speaker 4: That the role now you're setting like a real rupee India, yes, okay, and maybe other countries. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Okay, I was and also Zelda, what's it? Zelda's what? 00:06:52 Speaker 3: And Zelda you collect rupees literal? 00:06:56 Speaker 2: I thought you're naming a currency that is so funny, drowning of course many ok arenas to purchase. I uh uh. 00:07:11 Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say though, is currency wise, Like I just feel like, you know, you throw up a few horror videos. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: On Instagram, like I could buy you a house in Russia. I'm sure you know. 00:07:21 Speaker 3: I yeah, I wonder how what the exchange rate is between I mean, I can't imagine the dollars soaring. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: No, but Russia. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: I'm always unclear as to what's going on. And my I get the things I get from Russia or Eastern Europe are usually people who have a hundred raccoons. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: Oh, I get a few of those. I don't get the but I'm I am also part of raccoon Instagram. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: I feel like I think I've talked about this on this podcast before, but I feel like the majority of multiple raccoon owners when they have you know, they're all over the kitchen floor is Eastern Europe, Russia, and I don't understand why. I wonder if there's just like not a law. I'm just trying to figure out why is it such a such a buzzy thing over there? 00:08:09 Speaker 2: And then it's like the Deep South here or something. 00:08:11 Speaker 4: Right, But is it like, are are like raccoons, They're like parakeets? 00:08:17 Speaker 2: Oh interesting? 00:08:18 Speaker 4: I mean like it's just like this isn't a dog. It's smarter, right, you know what I mean? But like, because I also just you know, the American the American attitude towards raccoons. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: It's complicated. It's complicated. 00:08:32 Speaker 4: So you know, some are our friends, some have made themselves out to be our enemies, and it's you never know which when you're getting I feel like maybe the Eastern European raccoons are like we're here just a peaceful yeah yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, give me a few cheetos, give you a handful. 00:08:47 Speaker 2: Of rabbit food and like. 00:08:50 Speaker 4: Or what oh yeah, yeah, some pickled cabbage? 00:08:55 Speaker 2: Is that is that? Now? 00:08:56 Speaker 3: This is the rest of the podcast will be us trying to guess currencies and things that people. 00:08:59 Speaker 5: Even Eastern Europe. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: We just saw it like two weeks all the time, trust me that I believe. 00:09:10 Speaker 3: Speaking of wildlife, I last night was eating dinner and atwater Village and I saw several mice at an outdoor situation. 00:09:18 Speaker 2: Nightmare. 00:09:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is a new thing in LA. 00:09:20 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, But here's my question. So were these mice of the world or mice of the restaurant? 00:09:25 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think mice of the world. I think they were coming from the street for the food, so that's right, I guess better. Yes, yes, but also you think the mice from the restaurant, or at least full They're not coming from me, right, yeah, yeah, exactly. These ones are a nightmare situation. But I don't know what's I don't know what's happening. It's the exploding mice population. 00:09:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: Exploding mice populations. Such a good string of arts. I've lived here for now, I don't know, fifteen years or something, and it's in the last two years it's just suddenly everywhere. 00:10:02 Speaker 2: Well weirdly enough. 00:10:03 Speaker 4: So I know this only from living I live in me and my wife lived in Upstate New York for a little bit as well. And with climate change, it's always it's always climate. But mice apparently have not not like super not super intolerant, but are pretty intolerant too cold weather. So what would happen is that winter would strike, especially in the Northeast, they would all die minus like five. Maybe'd repopulate in the summer months, and the warmer months same thing. Here, we'd have rain, it'd be a little bit colder, but now it's never cold enough for all of them. 00:10:39 Speaker 2: To die, so they're just reproducing. 00:10:42 Speaker 4: And it's it's intense because like, here's the thing, Like I don't love mice. I go out of my way not to harm them, but I'm not I'm not, like, you know, I'm not hanging out with mice. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: Rats. 00:10:53 Speaker 4: Like you can teach a rat to do stuff that's very small. You know, they wear they wear pants, that's one thing. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: If they do math, I would believe that. I bet they can do basic math. 00:11:09 Speaker 5: They can't. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: I mean, they at least know mazes, which is right. I know is not math. 00:11:13 Speaker 4: But if someone asked me, is a maze math, I'd go, yeah, it is kind of. 00:11:19 Speaker 3: You would probably find both of those in like a highlights magazine or something exactly. Rats can read highlights magazine. 00:11:25 Speaker 2: That that is one thing we do know. 00:11:28 Speaker 4: So you're seeing what you're seeing are a new school of winter. 00:11:32 Speaker 2: But I would add that speaks highly of the restaurant. 00:11:36 Speaker 3: Oh that it's good food. Yeah yeah, and they've got good tastes. Yeah yeah, right, they love Mediterranean food. They're after hamas. 00:11:43 Speaker 2: This kind of. 00:11:44 Speaker 4: Thing, just like walking around like a piece of couscouse uh a couse if. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: You won't. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: Did it? 00:11:53 Speaker 2: Did it ruin? 00:11:57 Speaker 3: Ruined a lot of things? 00:11:58 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, no, totally fait. It ruined dinner. 00:12:00 Speaker 3: It basically has ruined my week. It's ruined that restaurant. Yeah, it's ruined my friendship with that friend that I was having dinner with. 00:12:09 Speaker 4: It's all over, Okay, that's you know, we had a mouse at our place here in Los Angeles and I caught it and I caught it in a plastic like shoe. 00:12:19 Speaker 2: It was a it was a clear plastic shoebox, you know, the one comes in a clear plastic Amazon. No, no, no, I just bought it off Amazon. It's like those collapsable ones that have the little stack whatever. But can't getting it. You know what I'm saying. You get it was important with dummy, I know, a plastic shoeboxes. 00:12:41 Speaker 4: I get this mouse and I'm talking to my wife Chelsea, and I'm like, hey, it's in here, Like do we just let it out in the backyard? 00:12:49 Speaker 2: Do we like take it out to the street. 00:12:51 Speaker 4: As we're having this conversation, the mouse jumps, knocks the lid open of the shoe box, then jumps again like truly, like nine like a whole nine inches, just clears this box and then takes off into the into the backyard. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I mean, first of all, like I gotta respect that, Like I can't, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, saw an opportunity, Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah. To me, it's like when someone I genuinely believe this, if you break out a prison legally should not be allowed to go look for you absolutely, like you're hey, it's very hard to do exactly. They've made it very difficult at this point. Yes. And I also it's like you lost as law enforced man, Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like you've had your chance when you went trials and like a sentencing like all of these things. And then someone I don't know with like a file and a birthday cake figured it out. I'm sorry, that's amazing. Yeah, they didn't. 00:13:49 Speaker 3: They put in the work, a lot of work, yes, and they had to think it out. 00:13:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: Did you ever see Escape at Danamora? Oh? 00:13:57 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: That's the good until Yes, Britian Arquett, Yes, Patricia, Patricia Arquette and Benicio del. 00:14:05 Speaker 4: Toro, and I love Paul, I love a Benicio Paul Dano and you you're one of two people in Hollywood who hates it. 00:14:15 Speaker 2: What do we like? Look? Far be it for us to talk about Hollywood stuff, But here we are. This is a holo cast. 00:14:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you if you would have made me choose, like even if you like, even if you narrowed it down to two choices on each end and said like, okay, here are two directors. One is Quentin Tarantino and the other one is Steven Spielberg. And then on this side we have actors. One is Paul Dano and one is I don't know, well. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Benicio del Toro. 00:14:42 Speaker 4: Which director is going to say something really terrible about one of these actors? I there's no world where the combination of Quentin Tarantino and Paul Dano would have made it into my mind. It's like it's so objectively funny because like it just doesn't make makes sense. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: But that's the sort of thing where it's like it feels like he's like reading you don't really picture Tarantina watching current media like path. So it's like something must have else, must have happened, had run in at a restaurant or something, because why else that poll is so weird? 00:15:17 Speaker 2: No, but that's what makes it so funny. It would be like, like legitimately, if me and you were talking and like suddenly you were like, I hate Rob Kardashi, like no one is talking about that. Really it really look it was terrible and it was mean and it was cruel. Now that being said, I did laugh when I first. I was just like, this is so crazy, Like in a world where everything is already crazy, the fact that something that crazy could still stick out, I was like, wow. 00:15:49 Speaker 4: That was you went for it so needlessly mean, Yes, exactly exactly. 00:15:54 Speaker 2: I didn't have to commise on this anyway, you know what. 00:15:57 Speaker 4: I think maybe it felt like something someone would do to me, And that's why it feels like I would like someone that someone just be like you know who I hate? 00:16:08 Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, I I kind of love that this is not aimed at me in a really in a really terrible way. Like it just like it was, you know, like bullying is I don't want to say never funny. Sometimes it is funny, but when someone deserves it, you're like yeah. 00:16:26 Speaker 4: But that one in particular, I was just like, oh yeah, I think it was like striking maybe. Like my giggling was like, oh, I'm like so glad this wasn't me. 00:16:35 Speaker 2: I hope. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: During his next like press, Torris Spielberg is like, do you know what I hated? Black Monday? 00:16:42 Speaker 4: That would Okay, this reminds me of a story story. Okay, so now granted this this person didn't really they didn't know me, right, So I this is years ago. 00:16:54 Speaker 2: I had to. 00:16:55 Speaker 4: Host a tent sponsored by Toyota at a music festival. 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Okay. So it was like, here's your next band, and like you should also check out the new fully loaded Corolla, of course, and you should buy the right Yeah exactly, I mean sat Car. You know that a Toyota sand I get out of it out. So I'm hosting this tent. I do it for a weekend. 00:17:16 Speaker 4: It ends up being one of the worst weekends of my life. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: Like I legitimate. It was in New Orleans. Okay, it starts it was called the Voodoo Festival. It starts like storming. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: They don't know if they're gonna be able to like fly us out because you know, anytime it rains there it's Catrina. I'm eating dinner. I was eating dinner by myself. My it was so this is this had to It was like ten years ago my uh now ex but girlfriend at the time had literally broken up with me as I was getting on the flight. So I get there, I've been dumped. I was eating dinner alone. I'm doing this sponsored tent. While I'm eating dinner, I got outside of smoke a cigaret. Someone starts hitting me with water balloons that are filled with black paste, and I was just like, this is like, get me out of it. I was just like everything about New ORNs is terrible. I get why all these things can happen, and y'all like, I'm so. I make it back to New York City and I am in a pizza place called Fiories. It's on like McDougall and Bleaker, and I'm telling my friends, the stories of how badly this like experience was for me, and how I was hosting this tent and like every time I said something, people were like, get off the stage, right. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: And there's a woman in front of us in line at this pizza shop. She goes, are you talking about Voodoo Fest? 00:18:42 Speaker 4: And I'm like yeah, Actually she was like, oh my god, I had a band there and it was just like one of the worst experiences. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: I was like, I know, and she goes and the host was literally one of the unfunniest people I've ever seen. Was like, what was your band's name? 00:19:01 Speaker 4: And she tells me and I go I was that host and she's like no, what Confidently, She's like no, it wasn't you. And I was like, did they play any other tents? And she's like no, And I was like the Toyota tent right, She's like yes, and I'm like, and he was wearing glasses. I was wearing contacts at the time, and I'm like she and he was wearing glasses and she's like, yes, I pull out my glasses. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: I'm like these Warby Parker. My friends are crying, laughing, they can't believe it. And this woman is like it wasn't you. And I'm like, I can tell you every single detail about this interaction and you're telling me that like I'm making it up, and she's like, it wasn't you, and she got mad at me because she was bullying me, like I don't She's stuffling down on the fact that it wasn't me, even though like like here's the thing. Respectfully, you can think I'm the worst, but like you can't. 00:19:54 Speaker 4: Be like and it wasn't you, but you know what I'm saying, denying reality exactly. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: You can be like, oh wow, I'm sorry that I'm caught. You were the worst thing to happen. You said that, and we know this is what you're doing exactly. 00:20:08 Speaker 3: This is the saddest like Superman Clark Kent situation the bridge. 00:20:14 Speaker 2: And the point is always wear your glass. It was like, legitimately, so I think maybe that's where the Quinton Paul Banno thing, but it felt like situation a pizza shop and someone's like, hey, Quentin Herdto hates you, and it's like, I'm sorry. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: Also good for you for just like continuing to try to confirm this. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Because at this point I'm like, I you know, it's a thing where like, you know, you like you don't just trip, but you trip so hard that you're gonna cry in front of a bunch of people, so you have to get up and laugh and everyone's like, nah, you want to cry, and you're like, nope, I want to laugh. Your voice is cracking exactly. I actually love bleeding. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: That would have that would have been the end of my life. 00:20:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, well here's you know, and I will say, then having to buy a dollar fifty slice of pizza because you have no other money, it's like really the really the icing on the cake in a way that you're just kind of like. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: Huh, I. 00:21:11 Speaker 4: I know that you're not supposed to give up on a dream, but what if, Yeah. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: What if what do you end up with? 00:21:19 Speaker 4: Someone's like, hey, I actually don't think you should keep pursuing this. 00:21:22 Speaker 2: That's what she was saying. Of course, yeah, yeah it was. Do you remember the band? Well, here's the thing, so if because it was it was a band slash like there were technically DJs, Like I want to say, if I remember correctly, it was yeah, yeah, Louie the Child. 00:21:40 Speaker 4: If I remember correctly, and if I remember correctly, it was, uh, it wasn't a singular person, and if it was, it's just like he had you know, engineers or whatever, right, but. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: It was it was, And like again, look, far be it from. 00:21:54 Speaker 4: Me to say that no one should have opinions about anything ever, but when it comes to me, just. 00:22:01 Speaker 2: Keep your mouth shut. When it comes to talking about me, keep your damn mouth shut, and don't hurt my feelings. No one hurt the feelings anymore. 00:22:12 Speaker 4: That's oh, I ask, like, and I mean it like the amount of times like I tell my why too constantly, Like I'm like the amount of times that like I'm just somewhere and like an insult makes it to me. 00:22:23 Speaker 2: I'm like how like like I'll just be at like. 00:22:27 Speaker 4: Target and I'll just like overhear someone be like, oh man, like I'm glad that yaes, sir Lester didn't get the role, And I'm like, what are you guys following? Like is someone paying you to be around me? Like the dude, yes, it truly, It's like really, it's really shocking how many times, like especially like in twenty twenty five, I'll sell on Chelse like like at New Year, you know, New Year's evils. Just like if I could change one thing if I could have a resolution. It's just that like all the insults. 00:22:54 Speaker 2: People have, Like I'm like the guy that like when you're texting someone else to be a like, wow, so and so looked terrible today, you accidentally said to me. Yeah, And I'm like, I mean we I didn't even know you saw me today, but thank you. You know. Yeah, well, I feel like New Year's resolution for you is be better. But see there that It's just it's not gonna happen, baby. 00:23:19 Speaker 4: And yeah, like I feel like the universe is chowsen for me because it's like anytime, like look at you right, you're you're swollen. I'm swallen patroll dog and like if I tried, if I tried that, I would be like I would shred every tendon in my body. Like there's no lifting weights for me good shape. It's it's all I do is walk the dogs. Three dogs, and I just walk the dogs. And I only eat for four hours a day. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Wait, is that a fasting thing? 00:23:51 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:23:52 Speaker 4: For you do it for four hours aga from four Like every once in a while I get a little loose and you're like two pm to eight pm, but it's usually four pm to eight people, Oh. 00:24:00 Speaker 3: My god, you wake up and then go essentially all day without eating. Yeah, that seems impossible to it. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: You know. I here's the thing, and I wish I could be like, no, you actually stop thinking about it. That's not true. It's hell. It's hell. But you really are just kind of like, at least for me, like I can't always be eating, and that's the problem is that if you write me alone, I would always be eating. And also, look, I don't want to be one of these anti meds guys, but this is the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:32 Speaker 4: I was on Zoloft for like two years, and it spiked my appetite in a way that I never thought imaginable. So when I started switching and like coming off one and going on another, I was like, I need to be able to like regulate. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: This a little bit better. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: So I was like, what better way to regulate eating by not doing it at all? 00:24:55 Speaker 2: And between four and eight? 00:24:56 Speaker 3: Are you going crazy? 00:24:58 Speaker 2: You want to? 00:24:59 Speaker 4: But like a, You're stomach is just so small, and and like you can really only do so much eating in four hours. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Like I'm not like, Okay, now I'm going to Mikey's diner. To eat the four by four cheeseburger challenge or whatever. It's like I have like a sandwich and I'm like, all right. 00:25:15 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, you have any type of treat or anything. 00:25:19 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you know I have a treat. 00:25:21 Speaker 4: But but what I've been thinking about as of late is like, do I open the window to a permanent six hours and then only do a treat like. 00:25:29 Speaker 2: Every five days? Oh? 00:25:30 Speaker 4: Interesting, you know, because I think that is one of my problems that like, I'm not like I'm a sweet tooth person. I'm like, if anything with sugar is around me, I will I will have ten of it, Like I'm not. 00:25:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. Oh, I like, why has no one ever called me that? I? Oh? Here he comes very cummingbird. That hummingbird sure is ugly. I'm like, okay, wait, wait, are you talking about me or we're talking about you? For sure? 00:26:01 Speaker 3: I didn't realize you had guys had three dogs. 00:26:03 Speaker 4: Now, But so okay, So this is a little backstory. Me and Bridge our dogs go to the same dog walkers hiker big big Daddy, Yeah, big Daddy, Saul, And uh, I saw you repost a Saul post about what is I'm not gonna say your dog's name, but I show you. 00:26:27 Speaker 5: I don't want to get kidnapped. 00:26:29 Speaker 2: So I am very open with my dog's names. Both Chelsea DeVante as my wife, and Chelsea Peretti are very anti people knowing your dog's names. Sing and it's because of kidnapping, and I was like, I and it's not. And I love my dogs so much as like I think if something somebody wants something out of me, like they would just jump me or whatever, I don't think, and then get the dog and then we're gonna you know what he called the dogs, Yes, exactly exactly. First want to find the trainer. Then we're gonna you know. But then I'm like, I say all that, and then someone clubbed Lady gagas like you know, so like, but that's Lady Gaga, right, you know what I mean? Like, you know you're getting X amount of money less you know that there's a pool of me exactly. 00:27:17 Speaker 4: No one's kidnapping my dogs a real gamble, yeah exactly, Like I hope this guy's worked in the past eighteen months because otherwise this. 00:27:24 Speaker 3: Is I hope it's a decent pantry. 00:27:28 Speaker 4: Like so, they're very anti dog names on podcasts. I won't say it, but that's how I found out. And I was like, oh, look at us brothers. 00:27:36 Speaker 3: Brothers unbelievable, and like the way he's this guy's a matriician. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Yes, truly, he's so incredible. 00:27:44 Speaker 3: He like lines them. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: Up from y'all have one. Yes. 00:27:51 Speaker 4: And so there's to the original question. You're saying that we have three. Yes, we have three now. We got one two days after the initial COVID shut down. Then almost a year ago exactly, we got our second dog because of the fires, and then this third dog we were going to foster, but it bonded so hard with our second dog that like this was crazy. Yeah, it was just like, I'm never going to work again anyway, I'll just be at home. I'll take care of the dogs. It's fine, I'm a dog. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: Well, there's something else we probably should talk about. Yeah, I mean, I've been trying to avoid the topic. 00:28:28 Speaker 5: Answer. 00:28:28 Speaker 3: You were on the podcast years and years ago, and yes, yes, the time you were wearing like a mic that made you look like you're working in a call center over zoom, it felt like I had called in to complain. Yeah, yes, but at the time the podcast is called, I said no, gifts another time it was early days. I can't blame you for not realizing what was going wrong. We've been around for six years now. I assume you know what the deal is. Yes, yes, So it's a little surprise when you showed up with what's clearly a gift and I assume it's for me. Yes, okay, yes, do you have anything to say or should I. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: Just open an Okay? Now, now I'm gonna I'm gonna be real with you. 00:29:08 Speaker 4: It's I'm in a I'm in a utilitarian place in my life. Okay, so even you know, even getting someone flowers, like, I feel like, what is the purpose behind this? 00:29:21 Speaker 2: With yes, love and emotion, but like, can it also be used for decoration? You know what I mean? 00:29:27 Speaker 5: Vegetables? 00:29:27 Speaker 2: Right exactly? Yes? Well will this one day become a nice popery? Right? You know? 00:29:33 Speaker 4: So, while this is a gift, I know you, I know your lifestyle, I know the things that you're going through, and so this is this is what I find to be maybe the most useful thing for any adult to It's a gift, but any. 00:29:52 Speaker 2: Adult to have, and it's a very suicide pick. It's it's a collassable betel. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: I like what you're saying, because I have collected a lot of things are unusable, so we'll see about Yes, yes, oh this is great. 00:30:17 Speaker 4: It's not just a screwdriver, and this is important. This is it's a ratcheting screwdriver. Oh I haven't heard of a ratcheting So a ratching screwdriver is the one that clicks and then you push, click and turn, click and turn. And the reason that is important is because you can apply more force with a ratching screwdriver than you could with the regular I had no idea. 00:30:39 Speaker 3: Yes, when I see this sort of thing, I just think, oh, it's just like a convenient. 00:30:44 Speaker 4: Of course, yes, of course we have multiple bits and like we have we got look we got a Phillips head on there. We have two Phillips heads. I think we have a few torques. We have two flatheads as well. And as someone who has a house, it's just you're constantly there's constantly something needs, there's. 00:31:02 Speaker 2: Constantly something happening. And like I also think that like I don't know if you're a power tools person, mildly, mildly, this is something you keep in your kitchen drawer. You always know where it is. Click click, clack clack. You throw it right back in there. It's it's great for it. 00:31:18 Speaker 4: Like I mean, I even use them to like quite literally, like I'll just use the Phillips part of it, puncture a tiny little hole in the drawwall, and I'll know exactly where to hang a picture. Like I genuinely cannot say enough. 00:31:30 Speaker 2: About a ratcheting screwdriver. 00:31:31 Speaker 4: So that is that's you can use it for your car, like I mean, just anything anything. 00:31:36 Speaker 2: They're the best. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: I don't buy it. Screwdriver seems like a fad. People aren't going to get into these things. But I do want to back up and just say I don't feel like you were impressed enough that I knew these were called bits. 00:31:50 Speaker 2: Oh no, I absolutely I feel like I should get a little more. First of all, Utah correct, Utah. Okay. 00:31:59 Speaker 4: So there's the reason maybe it didn't seem as impressed is because, like there's just a certain level of osmosis that happened. Right when you're from a place like a Utah. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: You can't avoid exactly. Screwdriver has been right exactly. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: If you were like and then these little ding dooms, I'd be like, okay, Okay, that's impossible. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: You're doing this for the You're doing this for the joke, you know what I mean? But no, it's it's like look. And also again, I. 00:32:25 Speaker 4: Genuinely believe that once you reach a certain level of muscular guys just start saying things to you, and so you just have to learn them, you know what I mean. And I think you're at that point where guys are just like talking to you about things, and even if you didn't want to know, you have to be like, yeah, no. 00:32:40 Speaker 3: For sure, a bit, oh yeah, that's it. I'm at home depot every day just kind of picking up the vocabulary and. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: Wirepers Cool. 00:32:51 Speaker 3: You've become like a very like, uh, let's be honest, a Tim Allen type. You think you own a truck. You're giving away screwdrivers? 00:32:59 Speaker 2: Is gift? 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're puncturing holes in the dry wall. 00:33:03 Speaker 4: No, you know what it is. And I genuinely it's a twofold thing. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: One. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: I'm from Georgia and that is the mostest at all. So there's actually three things. 00:33:12 Speaker 2: There's that. There's very much the like, I'm I'm not ashamed of my age. I'm okay, he's seventeen years old, and I like to kiss. 00:33:26 Speaker 4: But I'm forty one, and like I, I did not. I didn't expect as much of childhood influence to make it back into my adulthood in terms of just being like, oh, per the truck and all these things. I think that, like, especially when you're in your early twenties, you want to reject. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: All that stuff and be like no, no, no, no, no, I don't like trucks. 00:33:49 Speaker 4: What I do like is the criteria collection and tense at the Voodoo festival exactly. 00:33:57 Speaker 2: And then one day you're like, oh, but. 00:33:59 Speaker 4: Like I you know again, it's like I started to see the usefulness of all this stuff and it lost the meaning of just being like redneck kids at my school having this stuff and then being like, oh, okay, I actually need a truck because of X, Y and Z. Mostly my mom needs things hold on Facebook marketplace, like the amount of like like me and Chelsea move so much stuff, and then the other sixty five percent of the time it's just my mom being like, there's a shelf in Santa Clarita that you need to go get by eight am, and of course, thank you so much. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: And the last thing was uh covid r, I just. 00:34:40 Speaker 4: I got really freaked out about I was like, I just don't want to be caught in a situation where I don't know anything, and like I knew enough, but I was like it really you know to actually the last time we were talking on the podcast, it was like the last time we spoke six years ago. 00:34:57 Speaker 2: But I was just like I just wanted to make sure that like a like I was man like, I'm not gonna lie like I was a bleach on the groceries. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Like I mean, there was a period literally everyone wants so and then that like if you were in a couple that you saw a little bit of split and then yeah. 00:35:13 Speaker 4: Exactly, so like I was like I don't want people in the house and like so I was just like on the internet being like how do I do this? 00:35:19 Speaker 2: How do I do that? And so like. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: Uh And also lastly, in all seriousness, I love Tim Allan. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: That I just more than anything. His face it gets better. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just like one of these guys. I'm like, whoa the brad Pitt, Tim Allen. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: That's your What is Tim Allen doing? 00:35:44 Speaker 2: Man? I it's it's and I know you're asking us some joke, but it is. It is interesting in the sense that like you're like, how did he become the guy that like not even us. 00:35:57 Speaker 4: It's not like low world is like Tim Alan like like here's the thing guy Fieri. Everyone is like that is the diner guy. 00:36:08 Speaker 2: His entire life is like a halopeno pancake, you know what I mean. Like, but Tim Allen is just like you. You were honest like for a little bit, like hope improvement was huge. I'm not right, but it's like you then got to just like fully adopt the personality. It's so weird love like being like man, yeah exactly exactly, like permanently. Yeah. 00:36:31 Speaker 4: Like it's not like he's not like Mike, was it, Mike Low Is that the guy from like Dirty Jobs, Mike Row Mike. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: You know who like literally going and be like, hey, I changed a sewer to watch you do it right? Right, Like I don't know, So so I say to say that I'm literally literally stronger than Tim Allen spiritually, mentally, physically. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: I believe you make a really good point because he wasn't like known as like the tool man guy until that show, right, and then he was an actor portraying that and now that's just who he is, and he's like, it's. 00:37:05 Speaker 2: Like if you and like, here's the thing you always look You always come with a cute top. We know that. 00:37:10 Speaker 4: But it's like if just from this episode, you addressing the fact that you're wearing a cute top and then. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're cute top Bridger like feel like, well, you know he has other stuff, you know, I would be like the opposite of Bert Christ. Oh my god, whoa no top? 00:37:28 Speaker 4: Cute top that like, I don't know what's better? Do you do you play with in you before Bert? Or do you come in after Bert. 00:37:37 Speaker 2: And remind people exactly? And now we're getting dressed. People are so happy my shirt is not because you're you're the guy that should have it all. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Oh, but people are begging for it. People are begging for it. 00:37:52 Speaker 2: Get this guy on. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: Stage without a shirt? 00:37:54 Speaker 2: What'd you do it? 00:37:55 Speaker 3: Would I take my shirt off on stage? 00:37:57 Speaker 2: Like okay, what is how about this? 00:37:59 Speaker 4: What is the amount of money that you're like uncomfortable doing fifty dates no shirt? 00:38:04 Speaker 3: You're asking the wrong guy because still to me, like forty dollars is a lot of money. 00:38:07 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean if it's forty dollars, then yeah, but I mean what forty times fifty show fifty nights? Yeah, what is twenty grand? Yeah that's not worth it. Come on, come on with travel. I don't know the business the way it is. That's true. Ask me in a few weeks. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, I might need that to brand and suddenly I'm all over the country driving I need it. What are you working on around the house? Are you constantly doing projects? 00:38:36 Speaker 2: Yes? You know. 00:38:37 Speaker 4: And it's also like this is like maybe I don't know, maybe it's kind of I want to say cheap scape, but again it's also necessity because you know, we rent where we live. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: It's like we I really try. 00:38:51 Speaker 4: To avoid hitting up the landlord slash owner of the house as much as possible. So I'm like, if I can just do this, I'll just do this always on landlord's sides. 00:39:01 Speaker 2: Well, that's my huge thing. It's it's literally why I flew to New York to vote against body. I was like, it's gotta be Guomo or the Curtis. What was it? 00:39:14 Speaker 3: I can't remember. 00:39:15 Speaker 2: I always want to say see one, but that's just a character. Yeah. 00:39:20 Speaker 4: But also it's like like, look, the reality is that we do have three dogs, and so like you don't want someone to just pop it up right when you're renting you know you're right exactly exactly, and like you know they've been cool and all that stuff. 00:39:36 Speaker 2: So I say all that to say that it's also like a good like like I'm. 00:39:42 Speaker 4: Not gonna tear down a wall and fix the plumbing, sure, but anything that I mostly can do, like if I knew plumbing, and then I would have done it. But like almost anything that happens I I take care of. 00:39:55 Speaker 3: Well, it's like it's a nightmare when there is something that feels so small and you're like, oh, if only I had paid slight attention to how to do this, yeah yeah, and then you're now. 00:40:05 Speaker 2: Paying somebody to do it well. Perfect example or dishwasher. 00:40:09 Speaker 4: I fixed it twice. Oh my god, it was a nightmare. It was installed, so and this is one of the times I called the landlord. It was installed, and then they put in a new floor and the problem is that now the tile was too high to get the so I had to cut out the tie to get it, cut out tool, cut out the tile, all the stuff, I pull it out. I completely fix it, filters, all this stuff, and then something happened where the tubing from the sink to the actual dishwasher gets messed up. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: You first of all, you love this story. Second of all, it gets longer, I'm going to steal the story longer and it gets more boring. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: I'm taking this on the road, wash chan. 00:40:59 Speaker 2: The short version is I didn't I couldn't see where the tube connected. Oh and so I actually did have to call someone and I literally showed up within thirty seconds. It's like it's cleaned. That'll be two hundred and fifty dollars, And I was like, yeah, of course, of course, of course. It is exactly that amount of money that would have changed my life, and I've been able to save it. Yeah, I mean, and that guy feels so powerful. I'm suah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh for sure. It's like mechanics where you're just like, hey, like you just have the tools for this, Like almost anyone can change oil if you go, unscrew this, screw it back, change the filter. Poor oil. But there was just like, oh, look at this idiot, Look at this idiot who can't stop crying. 00:41:46 Speaker 3: This is my problem with surgeons, you know, But you've got the tools, big deal. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: Do you Okay, do you think I'm not I'm not saying that you could be a surgeon, but thank you. I actually appreciate that you I think I like, no, no, no, I mean right now, like, I don't think you just hop into surgery. But do you think there's emotionally a part of you that could have handled being a surgeon? 00:42:08 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:42:09 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Really emotionally yes, I think I could have been. But whoa be like the grossness element? I don't thinkled just like I would have been gagging. 00:42:18 Speaker 2: Correct? 00:42:19 Speaker 3: Do you want to hear your searche and gagging? O? 00:42:22 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, well, if you hear them, then that's the worst part. Verston. It was like, oh my god, I'm awake. What I got? So again? Very late in life? I just got my wisdom teeth pulled like three or four months ago. What were you just say? 00:42:40 Speaker 3: No, this is so interesting to me because you might have to get his out and I had mine out when I was eighteen and late in life, and let's be honest, you're very late in life. 00:42:48 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, this might be the last. This might be the last part. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: Don't say things like that on this podcast especially, You've got many podcasts Okay, cool, I I hit mine out eighteen and you're halfing years out now as an adult. 00:43:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I might as well have had open heart surgery. That's how hard my body reacted to the recovery of it. Like I mean, I was like waking up in the middle and I like sweating. Like Chelsea's like, what is going on? Like my wisdom teeth? I'm sorry? What? 00:43:23 Speaker 4: Like again, she got hers out when she was eighteen, and like I, I kept going to the dentist and I kept being like, yours are like they're in mostly normal, like something may change, but like you don't need to do it. If you don't need to do it, that's fine. But then they started like you know, turning and whatever. So so I get the surgery, the hard hitting surgery of wisdom teeth. The dentist when she's taking out this bottom sorry, this bottom left one, she's like, hey, uh, if anything becomes you'll always feel pressure. 00:43:59 Speaker 2: If anything becomes painful, you have to let me know. So they did not put. 00:44:03 Speaker 4: You onto Yeah, no, of course not. I think they looked at my insurance so like he's gonna be awake. So the first two they get out in the problem. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: They get to this. 00:44:11 Speaker 4: One, this this bottom left one, and I'm like, ah, like I can feel it. 00:44:14 Speaker 2: I can feel it. Something's wrong. And she goes, I think you're confusing pressure with pain, and I went, I'm not, like, I know you just took two out. You know, there are two people here and having the experience exactly. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: So she literally goes, ugh, rolls her eyes like re numbs me or whatever. 00:44:33 Speaker 2: I get it out. A week later, Bridge, I'm in so much pain, like I'm just like having a sip of water and just like merely like cusping my lips. 00:44:43 Speaker 4: To the glass is like too much. So I just like hit her up and I'm like, hey, can I just come in and talk to you? And so uh I go back in and I swear to God, I'm like, hey, how are you. When she walks in, she goes, I told you this would happen. 00:44:57 Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on? Like she I was like, I don't know how I made you mad? 00:45:02 Speaker 3: Like sincerely, she got kicked out of her band exactly. 00:45:08 Speaker 2: It was that's full I'm shusy now, but I'm also just now on the other side of it. And she called me like she you know, the office called me and they're like, uh so when you want to come in for your phone up? And I was like, never, never, I will. I would rather start with someone who just is like in school, right, you know what I mean? So wow, So I say all that to say that I'm with you emotionally. I think I could do it. And I even think I could handle the queasiness. I don't know if I don't think I can handle I mean, I guess that's part of the emotion of it. I don't know if I can handle the fan like if there's like families around like. 00:45:46 Speaker 4: That really freaks me out because then it's like, you know, it's us, so where you have to be like Patch Adams. 00:45:53 Speaker 2: And so there's leg gone was Patch Adam's based on a real thing? I believe he was. 00:46:04 Speaker 4: And I'd also argue there's no way he was as funny as Robin Williams. 00:46:08 Speaker 2: So they really lucked out, right. 00:46:09 Speaker 3: This guy was probably an annoying loser, right. 00:46:12 Speaker 2: Because I mean, here's the thing. If your doctor dressed as a clown, get a life. 00:46:15 Speaker 3: First of all, Hey, but I don't want anything to. 00:46:18 Speaker 5: Do with it. 00:46:19 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, figure out this hepatitis like, I don't why are you why are. 00:46:25 Speaker 2: Your lips red? Yeah, there's nothing about that. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: I want anything. I do not want a professional in my life being funny, right, especially. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Trying dude, I look man. 00:46:35 Speaker 4: And it's also why like I genuinely I don't think you can tell anyone what you actually do. You have to say you were like when people ask me, I'm like, I work in production. 00:46:47 Speaker 3: I'm in marketing. Yes, oh see there you and not for fun thing right? 00:46:51 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's for Pfizer and not the commercial. 00:46:56 Speaker 3: Right. 00:46:57 Speaker 2: Just have to keep fighting the pamphlets, the pamplets that you see the doctor, they're very depressed. Stop asking me questions. 00:47:04 Speaker 3: No, the moment you tell somebody there, you'll be pitch television shows. Yes, they'll be joking. They'll be asking you to tell. 00:47:13 Speaker 5: Them a joke. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: Just hell, pure hell. 00:47:17 Speaker 3: I When I first moved to LA I moved in with a couple in their baby. 00:47:21 Speaker 2: Oh, Hollywood, Hollywood swinging, and it's fine. I moved to the big city. 00:47:27 Speaker 4: It was with a couple of their baby. 00:47:30 Speaker 3: But the first thing they asked me was to tell them a joke, and I knew it was downhill from there. 00:47:33 Speaker 2: Oh wait, you didn't know them. No, it was. 00:47:38 Speaker 3: Yes, literally craigslist. That can you imagine? 00:47:43 Speaker 2: That is legitimately insane. That is so I would I would rather. 00:47:52 Speaker 4: Live with a single drug addict then a couple. 00:47:56 Speaker 2: And how old was the baby? The baby was like a year old. Oh, so you were living with a nuclear family. 00:48:06 Speaker 3: I believe in the family, traditional family. 00:48:09 Speaker 4: That is so okay, okay, I don't want to switch the dynamic, but it really feels like you're. 00:48:18 Speaker 2: But just just here. Okay, So was this a guess house situation or like just in there with the family, just simply another one of the bedrooms. 00:48:26 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? 00:48:28 Speaker 2: It's just like over to big dinner. They were like, that is crazy. It was. 00:48:36 Speaker 3: I mean, it didn't surprise, it didn't work out. I was out of there after like three months, and they were so mad that I left. But sorry, you didn't get me onto your lease. 00:48:44 Speaker 5: That's your fault. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were clearly paying for that baby. 00:48:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was absolutely paying for the baby. But like the whole situation, they asked me to tell a joke immediately. They wanted me to pay one hundred and fifty dollars a week for groceries or I was like, I'm going to be eating shredded. 00:48:59 Speaker 2: When I'm sorry. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, they criticized like my diet choices when I started buying cheap groceries. But it was like, you know, I'm living with a couple on their baby. Where do you think my money is? 00:49:10 Speaker 1: I get? 00:49:11 Speaker 2: Wait, what part of was that? Like? 00:49:13 Speaker 3: Mid city West Hollywood is my god, right behind the Magnolia Bakery there on Third Stroke. 00:49:20 Speaker 4: Okay, hitting part of town. We love that part of love that part of town. I mean you're near. 00:49:26 Speaker 2: I believe there's a volcano down there. 00:49:28 Speaker 5: There is a volcano. 00:49:29 Speaker 2: I love that. I will only live within walking distance. Wow, but you're talking to the king. Look that is here's the thing. Look, people struggle all that stuff. I get. They're like, hey, we need a roommate and alleviate some of this. I've never heard of a family being like and you also need to go in on groceries. You know that is? That is so to me. That's like literally like hey, we're all putting in ten dollars on this one shirt. It's like very like traveling pants. Like I'm sorry, we have no idea how this is gonna work out. I just met you fifty. 00:50:06 Speaker 3: Can you imagine is so much money? 00:50:08 Speaker 2: That is so much money. 00:50:10 Speaker 3: It's an enormous like And then so that brings up some questions, actually, are they putting any money in for the groceries? For all that? 00:50:18 Speaker 2: I've never even thought about that. 00:50:19 Speaker 3: I just kind of assumed, Oh, they're paying the other half, which is an exorbitant amount of money. Right now, I'm like, oh, was I going to just be paying for all of the. 00:50:27 Speaker 2: Food, right and they're just like eating shrimp? 00:50:31 Speaker 4: Wait, okay, okay, sorry, one more question, and and like, actually, maybe it may not be comfortable answering, but how much was it per month? 00:50:41 Speaker 3: I think it was like six hundred a month? 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Did you have your own bathroom? 00:50:44 Speaker 5: Yes? 00:50:45 Speaker 3: Okay, so it was, you know, and I was living in a decent part of town, right and I knew literally no one in La. It was like a safish seeming like coming to La. Still on the on paper, a very bad, very bad. 00:51:01 Speaker 2: Have you ever spoken to them ever? 00:51:03 Speaker 3: No, but one of them I think found me on social media at some point. I hope that they're not listeners. 00:51:08 Speaker 5: We'll get at. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: Least three bad reviews and like followed me as like simply not following because when I gave them the month's notice, they were so pissed. 00:51:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were furious with me. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to be friends with you, right yea, yeah for three months and then you were mean to me. You take pictures of the apartment so you could put the apartment back on Craigslist. So the only other things I remember about them were at one point she was watching classic movie Jack and Jill Adam Sadler's Jack and Jill, and somehow I was like, I must have said, how's the movie? And she said, well, it's not Shrek funny, it's just like crazy, Like what is your bar for comedy? 00:51:48 Speaker 2: Are there any what year was this? 00:51:51 Speaker 5: Twenty ten? 00:51:52 Speaker 2: There has to be like emails like you have to have my god, I should what if? 00:51:59 Speaker 3: Oh we haven't even thought? 00:52:00 Speaker 2: What if? 00:52:01 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're there? 00:52:02 Speaker 2: At least they run Warner Brothers. 00:52:06 Speaker 3: It's David Allison's Could you were mad? 00:52:10 Speaker 2: That is? I'm not that like? 00:52:11 Speaker 4: And I had a Mine wasn't super crazy, but like when I moved here, I moved from Atlanta. I was working at a restaurant. 00:52:19 Speaker 2: The bartender was like, Hey, at this other restaurant I used to work at one of the other guys there is moving to LA You guys should live together. We met for ten minutes and went okay, and then we just got in a car and drove across the county. So it's like, that's great, he's still one of my good friends. But like we weren't like hey, and also we need to put a family. 00:52:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, yours is a much more normal situation. 00:52:42 Speaker 2: Were you like, were there was there a curfew? 00:52:46 Speaker 3: Well, there was no curfew. I avoided them almost at all costs. 00:52:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:52:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there was really an expectation of me being kind of part of the situation though. Yeah, yeah, because I think they were like they found it like off putting that I was like, I'm you know, I'm renting a room, right, yeah, I don't want to be the uncle full house or whatever. So God blasts, I guess. The only Yeah, the only other thing I remember is they had a massive framed poster of the band crazy Town autographed. So there were some red flags, I mean obviously from the very beginning, and then it was just red flag, red flag, red flag and worked out perfectly, that is. 00:53:28 Speaker 2: Okay, Like and then and then you moved in by yourself. 00:53:33 Speaker 3: Yes, I obviously after a situation like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Wow. So I found something that was like, thank god, something slightly I mean almost the same costs obviously have much smaller, less fun space. Well fund's not the word, but uh so I never had a roommate again. 00:53:50 Speaker 2: Did they ever invite you to stuff? No? 00:53:53 Speaker 3: But they were kind of like I think they at least retired like rave culture or something like. 00:53:59 Speaker 5: This, or real party type. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: Who they seemed like with like they're the sort of person that you would run into who's a promoter, right, you know where you're like, oh yeah, do anything right? 00:54:11 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? 00:54:13 Speaker 3: And there was there was just like they were both very tan. There was something about them that was like what was happening to you in the nineties interview process barely. I remember talking to one of them still in Utah on my cell phone in a Walmart, just like figuring it out. 00:54:27 Speaker 4: I man, this is because here's the thing, is like that part of the story is. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: Like magnificent. That sounds exactly like what should be happening. 00:54:37 Speaker 4: It's just like I spoke to strangers that have a Walmart in Utah and I ended up living with them. 00:54:43 Speaker 2: That part I'm all for. The part that gets me is like a now meet family. 00:54:51 Speaker 3: So also like, are they on the other side telling their friends we once lived with a man we met from Utah. We let a drifter into our house. 00:54:58 Speaker 4: And no, because I'm assuming you didn't put up the ad being like any families want to take it a cool guy looking. 00:55:05 Speaker 3: To kill somebody? 00:55:08 Speaker 2: Like what when you Okay, I'll ask more questions later. This is great. I don't want to waste your time. This is that is Yeah, that's a fun one. 00:55:16 Speaker 3: It was a big swing. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:55:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god it works out because I could have. Also, like the fact that I found another place is like, I'm surprised I didn't just move back to Utah. Yes, what are you talking? 00:55:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, only people in l A are weird families. 00:55:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it just speaks to have strong. 00:55:37 Speaker 2: Of a person. I mean again, like the muscles man. You know you want to you don't want to talk about it, but I want to talk about listener. 00:55:46 Speaker 3: You have no idea the things he said to me off my right. 00:55:51 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you do what you gotta do for your friends. 00:55:55 Speaker 3: Well, is there anything left to say about the screwdriver? I'm so excited about this, go under my sink, yes, like. 00:55:59 Speaker 4: Literally all all I can say that. The only new thing I can say about it is that just don't don't take it for granted because people start losing bits. 00:56:12 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course this thing's almost worse exactly, but don't do that. I have a question for you, as a handy person. My water bottle is now screwed too tight and I can't even like I'll put it between my legs and try to unscrew it. How am I going to get this thing open? 00:56:27 Speaker 2: Okay, So there's there's a few things you could do. 00:56:29 Speaker 4: I like, I'm assuming you don't have a vice, which, right, there's what's called a strap wrench, or you could also just use like a leather belt. But what you want to do is put that around, Okay, make it tight. There's enough friction usually that you can, just as long as you're holding it with something that also has friction, right kind of. 00:56:49 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I own one of those things. 00:56:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. It's the same thing they use for oil filters in your car. You can't get them off a leather belt strap wrench version if you don't have rise what does a strap wrench look like it. 00:57:04 Speaker 4: Literally it's it looks like a handle and then looks like a long like a rubber belt attached. 00:57:10 Speaker 3: To it holding the dog catcher. 00:57:12 Speaker 2: Us. 00:57:12 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, and then you pull that, you pull the rubber strap through it, and you get enough tension on it, and then you just start the other way. 00:57:19 Speaker 3: Wow, this is great to know. This is very good information that God be recorded. Conversation is worthless. 00:57:28 Speaker 2: You you have your water bottle. 00:57:30 Speaker 5: Well, we should play a game. 00:57:31 Speaker 3: Yes, I need a number between one in tent from you five. Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now you can promote recommend to whatever you want. 00:57:42 Speaker 2: Our film The Gutter is still streaming on Hulu, written by me, co directed by me and my brother Isaiah Lester, starring Shamik Moore, Darcy card and Susan Sarand and Paul Reiser, j Ellis Langston Kerman, Adam Brody, Paul Sheer, and Pally Uh, Monique gall God, who else is in this movie? 00:58:06 Speaker 4: There's There's, it's it's names Galore, my wife Chelsea Devant is, Aaron Dewey, Lennox uh. 00:58:12 Speaker 5: Start naming extras Okay. 00:58:15 Speaker 2: My cousin Mike, Uh, that's what, all right? 00:58:22 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:58:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a fun, stupid bowling comedy and you should watch it. 00:58:29 Speaker 3: Everybody please go watch that. Watch something that has to do with comedy. 00:58:33 Speaker 2: That's fun. Right, we're begging. Okay, this is how we play get real battle? Sorry, good battle, Jack Harvey jack a, Harry kim Field Sorry. 00:58:46 Speaker 3: Unbelievable camp yeah crazy yeah, yeah, everyone can watch it. Yeah, it's on Hulu. Who's got it all? 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Yeah? We love Okay. 00:59:00 Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three things. You're going to tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why? Okay, and I'll tell you if you're right or wrong because they're a correct answer. 00:59:06 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so be very careful. Yes, all right. 00:59:09 Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Colin. Gift or a curse a very chatty mail carrier. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: Oh I I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna say that's a gift. And the reason I say it's as a gift is because anyone in particular that service not just like restaurants. People talk to you because you know, the server talks to you because they want a bigger tip. There's kind of no, there's no endgame for a mail carrier to want to talk to you other than like they are nice and kind and because of that, they want to reciprocate your niceness and kindness. And they always make sure not only are your packages on time, but they hide them for you, especially if you got porch pirates. So I say, I say, it's a gift. 00:59:54 Speaker 3: Correct gift. 00:59:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't. 00:59:56 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say anything else. I mean that this would be the podcast. No, I love it. I first of all, I love to see the male carrier because I feel like we're on such opposite schedules. It almost feels like seeing a unicorn or something. 01:00:10 Speaker 5: Here's the person. 01:00:11 Speaker 3: They never talked to me, which you know, I think I just have a deeply off putting personality. Nobody who does any type of service wants anything to do with me or a conversation. So the idea of someone even like answering how are you doing? Melts my home. Also, like these good I'm sure they're full of gossip. They know the neighborhood. These people really are on the ground snooping on your neighbors. They're seeing their male ask them about your neighbors into it. 01:00:40 Speaker 4: I you know, I'm in a very I'm in a precarious situation. I'm in a very, very suburban area where like the talk about a gift of a curse is that like because of where I am. 01:00:53 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place. But I'm also. 01:00:56 Speaker 4: And you know me, so this is gonna sound crazy. I'm also the most dangerous person on my street. So like people like see me walking the dogs, They're like, there, he is the bad boy. 01:01:08 Speaker 2: In Los Angeles. 01:01:10 Speaker 4: So I want I whereas I want to ask that gossip. I'm afraid again I get back into my Tarantino situation. It's like, oh no, everyone hates you, and I'm like, okay, okay, thank you. 01:01:21 Speaker 3: I'm throwing a lot of away, a lot of hate man, trying to protect you. All right, Okay, You've gotten one right so far. This next is from a list next one is from a listener named Addie. Gift to a curse baby up in this bitch car stickers. 01:01:38 Speaker 2: Oh man, I I'm going full curse. And I love babies and I love children, but I don't think babies and children can be cool in the ways that adults project coolness onto them, Like you know, when you see like a baby like in like Warby Parkers, yeah exactly, or like you know, uh, like a Nike jog or tech sweatsuit, you're like, what is like that? No kids should be wearing that, you know what I mean? 01:02:05 Speaker 4: And so like when you do when you do a license or not a licenseate like a bumper stick or whatever like that, that still reads to me as you projecting that like this is either a a cool kid or that you think you're so cool about your I don't know, Hondai Sonata that like it's just like so like I I also I also think I'm just very anti a thing on your car that is not we are Charlie Kirk. 01:02:33 Speaker 2: I think you have that. I think you have. 01:02:38 Speaker 3: That's your one. 01:02:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just me. But we know that correct. 01:02:45 Speaker 3: Of course, I used to even be against the like baby uh in car whatever, and then I realized that those are kind of like they actually have a purpose where it's for emergency. 01:02:54 Speaker 5: Things or whatever. 01:02:55 Speaker 3: At some point I thought people are just like bragging about carrying a baby around. 01:03:00 Speaker 2: That is a cynical. Take. Look at this, Look at this idiot just bragging that they have a baby, it's like so funny to me. 01:03:11 Speaker 3: No, it's a real thing, but yeah, this is Naola, Like, no, you're not cool. You made the dorky choice to be a parent. 01:03:18 Speaker 2: Oh you're a nerd exactly. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: And now your child is going to be a bigger nerd because you're trying to be cool, right, exactly. Your child is not into prints. Your child doesn't love David Bowie. They're three years old. 01:03:31 Speaker 4: Like the idea of like a three year old listening to Darling Nikki being like, oh why. 01:03:39 Speaker 2: This is ziggy starts alright, They're like they want to eat candy, use the bathroom all themselves, and then to sleep. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: And listen to the most irritating music you can possibly imagine. Anyone who knows a child knows that they want to listen to the worst music ever creates just a series of like bells like xilophone. 01:04:00 Speaker 4: Yes exactly, that's yeah, I uh that like baby up in the sticker is the same reason why they do like Minivan commercials. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: But like the song they use is like ride and DIRB, which is like it drives me. I'm like stop. 01:04:12 Speaker 3: Insecurity showing there is so embarrassing. 01:04:15 Speaker 2: And it's also like by the way minivans, great cars, excellent cars, all wheel drive, tons of space, save made. 01:04:22 Speaker 3: The earnest decision to have a family. 01:04:24 Speaker 5: Good for you. 01:04:25 Speaker 2: That's okay, you know what I'm saying. 01:04:27 Speaker 4: Or buy a Yukon and be that person. But anyway, I digress. 01:04:31 Speaker 3: All right, you've gotten two right so far. This final one is from a listener named Brandon Gift your a curse showers with only half a shower door. 01:04:37 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is that. 01:04:40 Speaker 4: It's crazy that would even come as anything other than a curse. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: I mean it sincerely. 01:04:46 Speaker 4: Like I, you know, you before the world fell apart, You're every once in a while, you're like, I have X amount of money in my account and I have to go on a trip. I'm gonna splurge a little bit, and you go to one of these hotels. The most notorious one is the W Hotel. I had seen it. 01:05:05 Speaker 2: This is so pitiful. 01:05:06 Speaker 4: By the way, I only knew what the W Hotel was because I had seen an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where they like do an event at the W Hotel, and so I was like, going to like Dallas, by the way, and I was like, same hotel. It's got to be the same hotel. I go, I I sincerely mean it. I think not only is it maybe the wildest imposition you can put on a guest, but I also I'm like, what is what's the money play here? Like, is there is getting a second pane of glass destroying the profitability of this hotel? 01:05:41 Speaker 2: The floor is soaked, you get like it. 01:05:45 Speaker 4: It becomes that it goes from I'm taking a shower to now my entire bathroom is taking a shower. 01:05:50 Speaker 2: It drives me crazy. Curse, curse, curse for me, curse. You win the game, You win the game, you get all through. 01:05:59 Speaker 3: These are a course, And there's a chance I may have talked about this on this podcast before, but I feel like, you know, like people like gen X or whatever got a lot of shit for the the sinks that are essentially a punch bowl on top. 01:06:10 Speaker 5: Of a cabinet. 01:06:12 Speaker 3: I think, millennials, we've created this half shower door. This is our you know, the thing that we would just have to live with, the curse we put on the earth, an absolutely worthless invention. Yeah yeah, Like you understand for about three seconds, oh, it's supposed to look cool, and then you realize, like, well, this is supposed to be a practical thing. 01:06:29 Speaker 2: I'm doing exactly. 01:06:31 Speaker 3: This is so, this is just now leading to all sorts of problems. For so it looks a little bit more like an apple store. 01:06:38 Speaker 5: I don't care. 01:06:39 Speaker 3: Give me a door, give me a curtain at least. 01:06:42 Speaker 4: And I'm also like, and you know, uh, far be it from me, But I'm like, if I'm a woman, the last thing I want to do is be in a hotel room by myself in some strange city and be like, oh, I wonder how much access someone could have to me. 01:06:56 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like it feels it feels like a genuinely there might as well not be any glass sincerely, because it's not doing the thing that anywhere. 01:07:04 Speaker 3: I want to see a remake of Psycho with the half shower door. 01:07:08 Speaker 2: He walked and he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, You're always supposed to see a sillabuette. 01:07:16 Speaker 3: You did it again? Normal? 01:07:20 Speaker 2: No. 01:07:21 Speaker 3: I And speaking of the no shower door, when we were living in New York, we lived we had a sublet in Williamsburg for like a month and it was like a very nice like the owner had really like done it up to look nice. She had elected to have literally no shower door. She's like, I'm gonna have the most minimalist bathroom alive. She literally had a mop in there because it doesn't work like the water is all. 01:07:43 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, And then you would so it was like, okay, I just I just showered. Now I'm gonna mop. 01:07:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, because the whole bathroom's the shower. 01:07:51 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, sorry, is this like a floppy restaurant that was up one of those big stinky would be so fun. That's crazy. 01:08:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:08:06 Speaker 3: Needless to say, she was terrible, right right, and we hate her that we wished that. Okay, well you won the game. Will you help me answer a listener question? 01:08:17 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:08:17 Speaker 3: All right, but this is oh people. I should mention people are writing in too. I said, no gifts at gmail dot com, or they're sending voice notes. Those have to be under sixty seconds. Do what you need to do with your computer or your phone. I don't care. Okay, this is hybridg you're an esteemed guess that's nice. About a year ago, a friend of mine was invited to a wedding that was called off a week beforehand. It was called off too late to get a refund, so they're still in debt from the first wedding. They never returned to their gifts. This year, the same couple has reconciled and is planning a destination wedding. The couple is acting like the first wedding plan never happened. She had another bachelorette party, they redid their engagement photos, et cetera. I know people go to second weddings all the time, but not usually and it's the same people. What do you think is the gift obligation here? Does my friend need to get another gift? 01:09:05 Speaker 5: Thanks? 01:09:06 Speaker 3: Love the pod? Okay, butter me up am alike. This is the worst couple that's ever lived. 01:09:12 Speaker 2: I mean it sincerely. Luigi Manzilo should be free and he should be able to he gets one more and it's this couple allegedly allegedly he that is And I like, there's too much and I'm gonna maybe this is I don't. I don't consider it a controversial take. 01:09:40 Speaker 4: I think we live in a post wedding I don't think we should allow or have to celebrate the pomp in circumstance of weddings anymore. I think where like, look, there's no like cattle involved. Like the fact that like you can watch any TV show that's ever been made on your phone to me negates the fact that, like weddings are cool, you know what I mean, it's just not yes. So first of all, that on its own is like its own island. Secondly, the idea that this couple, like I don't even like it when like people argue in front of me and then I see them next time and like things are fine. 01:10:25 Speaker 3: The idea that like they split up literally everyone knows, everyone got an email we broke up. 01:10:33 Speaker 2: That is because there's there's also the thing when people break up like or split whatever, like one, you're gonna end up talking bad about one of them at some point for at least a small like there's the window. And then when they get back together, it's like, Okay, I really hope you don't. 01:10:52 Speaker 4: Hey, just hey, just make sure you don't say the thing that I said that was because you were mad. 01:10:57 Speaker 2: I actually don't really have So you're dealing with that. And then this idea that like you would even hopefully. 01:11:05 Speaker 4: They're being presumptuous and thinking that this couple wants gifts, but like if if they're asking for. 01:11:11 Speaker 2: Also a destination. Now the escalation, so that is demonic to begin with the destination wedding is too much, yes, exactly to have this second try, you. 01:11:24 Speaker 3: Have to work to break these people up. Yeah, you have like this is like a Hangover sequel or something where it's like, now we have to break up the couple or something. You have a ticking clock. You should not be Do not ask me to have a destination wedding. I'm not using my vacation money on your part your essentially birthday party. 01:11:45 Speaker 2: But in like, sorry, keep going. 01:11:47 Speaker 3: Sorry, no, I mean that's I just it's that that is the most presumptuous thing you could possibly do is say, okay, now everyone, we're going to like a perfectly fine vacation spot and most of it will be spent in weird social situations. 01:12:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like, hey, where's the place you've never wanted to go. That's where we're going. And guess what, you will have zero time to yourself. 01:12:13 Speaker 4: Cool? 01:12:14 Speaker 2: What then? What's the plus? Is? Like you get to watch people talk to each other like that. 01:12:25 Speaker 3: Oh, you have to take time off of work. 01:12:27 Speaker 2: That's fun, man. 01:12:29 Speaker 4: I that is that is a listener If you're listening I know you are. I would say, not only do not feel obligated to get a gift, I think you should go full like Jared leto suicide Squad, like mail them like dead animals and be like I'm a crazy joker guy, really really like really be bad about. 01:12:55 Speaker 5: And you don't want to go to this thing anyway? 01:12:57 Speaker 2: That's because okay, but and then here's and I'll leave you. But like I'm kicking you under the table. But what what world? Like what I guess, like how unaware are you? That? 01:13:11 Speaker 4: Like you're like the second time to the first person is a destination way, but that is it's like literally it's it kind of making me anxious, Like I'm like, oh my god, Like if I was friends with someone like that, I'd be like, oh, something's wrong. 01:13:22 Speaker 2: Right, there's something I need to work through before you get married to anybody. Yeah, and we're pregnant, Like they're making like dangerous life choices at this point, and there it's risky becase. 01:13:34 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that is a man. I look all power to them. Maybe this is maybe we're looking at it negatively and it's a test. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: They're like, if these people don't come to our second that's how you prove your real friends don't show up? 01:13:50 Speaker 3: Right, and you do write into podcasts about us, yes, and then we're like, we know we can keep you around. Yeah, and talk about the Joker. 01:13:57 Speaker 2: These people are screwed there, loco. 01:14:02 Speaker 3: This is literally Jared Leto's oh god. 01:14:07 Speaker 2: I look, I don't want it. Is that slander libel. 01:14:09 Speaker 3: We don't know that he's done any of these things. We're just thinking really about his character, the Joker. 01:14:14 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Also heave in real life, who's a scumback? Who's a filthy scumbany. 01:14:22 Speaker 3: Disney loves him? 01:14:26 Speaker 2: Whatever? 01:14:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Emily, we answered your question perfectly. Do not write back in yeaes sir, I have a practical object, thank god. Yeah, every like one in a hundred is something I can implement in my life. 01:14:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I'm so happy. 01:14:43 Speaker 2: To have it. 01:14:44 Speaker 4: Like, here's the thing that one, by the way you're using for those of you not being able to see Bridger, he's got a MacBook out in. 01:14:52 Speaker 2: Front of him. 01:14:52 Speaker 4: That one has the Torques bits so you can actually use it to open your mac book really yeah? 01:14:58 Speaker 2: Yeah? 01:14:58 Speaker 3: Oh and what would I do in there? Like, look, you're red peanut butter around. 01:15:05 Speaker 2: Just put a bomb inside. Yeah dust, but look upgrade my ram you know, if you ever needed to look because also I don't want to. 01:15:18 Speaker 4: I don't want to go into the nerd stuff. Anyway, you got to open it if you need it to. 01:15:21 Speaker 3: That's good to know, that's very good to know. Well, I had obviously a lovely time. 01:15:27 Speaker 2: This was just this is just everything we wanted. 01:15:30 Speaker 3: This is what we've both been begging each other for it since the day we met. Thank you for being here, Thank you for having me listener. The podcast is over a reminder to send in the voice notes or the emails to I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Keep them under sixty seconds. If it's a voice note, record it like not in a tornado. And I think that's it. The podcast is really coming to a screeching halt. 01:15:54 Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye. 01:16:00 Speaker 3: I Said No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts. 01:16:27 Speaker 5: I invit? 01:16:28 Speaker 2: Did you hear? 01:16:31 Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests your our presences, presents, and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me it? 01:17:01 Speaker 2: Don't leave