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Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals? The Lakers are in the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to digest that this morning here, Bucky. I

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Speaker 2: know what I saw last night, a blowout win to

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Speaker 2: wrap up their series against the defending champion Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 2: But the idea that a team with eleven games to

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Speaker 2: go in the regular season was sitting in the eleven

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Speaker 2: seed in the Western Conference suddenly finds themselves one step

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Speaker 2: away from the NBA Finals. How does that sit with you?

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Speaker 3: Bucky? I mean, this is great with me. I'm really excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for what the playoffs have brought us. I'm

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Speaker 3: excited that the Lakers were able to kind of take

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Speaker 3: care of business against the Warriors. It's great to see

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Speaker 3: Lebron and Ad play well all those things, because it's

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Speaker 3: always better when you have like the Lakers in the mix,

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Speaker 3: and then you get a chance to see the Lakers

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Speaker 3: take on the dinnerent Nuggets. And Joker, who I need

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Speaker 3: to apologize to you. I think maybe three or four

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, maybe it might be five weeks ago now,

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Speaker 3: we had a little thing where we were talking about MVP,

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Speaker 3: and I talked about Joel Embiid and I think I

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Speaker 3: may have also talked about James Harden or whatever, and

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Speaker 3: you were adamant that Jokers should be well on his way,

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Speaker 3: that there should be a no contest Nolo can tendre

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Speaker 3: when it came to who should be the MVP, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, But these playoffs have

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Speaker 3: been a revelation to me, Joker, without question should have

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Speaker 3: been the MVP. Watching him and Joe and be play

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Speaker 3: like back to back, watching the Sixers and the Nuggets

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Speaker 3: will follow. To me, he wasn't close.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about Jokicic and I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 2: him because with all due respect to all the other

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Speaker 2: great players that have gotten their teams as far as

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Speaker 2: they're going so far in these playoffs, he has dominated

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Speaker 2: these posts this postseason and he and he shows you

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Speaker 2: all the skills that make you want to look back

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Speaker 2: on that draft when he was a second round pick, like,

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Speaker 2: how many people could have been wrong about this guy.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break this down as the Lakers get ready

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Speaker 2: to take on the Nuggets. That series will start on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals. We still have to figure out

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Speaker 2: one more team in the Eastern Conference Finals. Who's going

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Speaker 2: to take on the eighth seed. Miami Heat will be

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Speaker 2: the Celtics will be the sixers. They will play Game

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Speaker 2: seven tomorrow in Boston. But just staying with Jokic for

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Speaker 2: a second here, the fact that when I watched this

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Speaker 2: guy play, and to be honest, how many times do

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Speaker 2: we get to see Yokic play? It's not like not often, right,

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Speaker 2: The Nuggets aren't not exactly a TNT fought. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we don't get to see the Denver Nuggets all that

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Speaker 2: often for a team that was a number one seed

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Speaker 2: in the Western Conference. But when you watch this guy

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Speaker 2: play basketball, when we talk about fundamentals, when we talk

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Speaker 2: about you know, basketball, IQ, you know what he does

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Speaker 2: better than any big man currently in the in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: When he is around the basket. He does not miss. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the angles are. He could be

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Speaker 2: an awkward angle. His touch around the basket is by

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Speaker 2: far the best of any big man in the Nby.

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Speaker 2: You don't see this guy dunk very often. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: really jump. But what he does do is that he

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Speaker 2: has court awareness. Where am I on the court, If

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Speaker 2: in the front, it doesn't seem to matter to this guy.

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Speaker 2: He gets the ball inside without jumping, without really any theatrics.

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Speaker 2: He gets the ball in the hole. Plus he's the

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Speaker 2: best pass big man in the league, and he's going

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Speaker 2: to get his twelve rebounds a game on top of

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Speaker 2: all that. So yeah, this is a guy who had

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Speaker 2: what twenty nine triple doubles this year. And with all

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Speaker 2: due respect Embiid and I liked him, beads you emotional

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Speaker 2: speech when he got his MVP award with the kid

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Speaker 2: that was all great stuff and Beads a great player,

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Speaker 2: But he doesn't do as much for his team as

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Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic does for the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: No, and there different levels of dominance. When I see

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Speaker 3: Embiid play and I think it was important to remember,

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Speaker 3: is whatever the game that when Joker went for fifty,

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Speaker 3: and so you had an opportunity to see mb because

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Speaker 3: they played the game before and he's in jump shots

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Speaker 3: and he's doing his little thing, and it's a different

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Speaker 3: far more finesse. It's not physical. It's not like the

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Speaker 3: shock dominance that we've seen. But when you're watching Joker,

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Speaker 3: Joker kind of blends like some of the old school

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Speaker 3: dominants that you used to see from big men of

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Speaker 3: yesteryear with Oh, if I need to step out out

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Speaker 3: and shoot from the deep water, I can do that.

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Speaker 3: I can pass to every I can get everyone involved.

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Speaker 3: I can put it on the floor and give you

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Speaker 3: a variety of moves that are very much like Hachem

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Speaker 3: Elijah on back in the day. And so it's just

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Speaker 3: a different look and field and the appreciation because it

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Speaker 3: slows down in the playoffs, like you just have one game.

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Speaker 3: You don't have all these games that you're trying to navigate,

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Speaker 3: like you see everyone is watching that. So to me,

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Speaker 3: that's where the dominance was appearing, and the difference between

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Speaker 3: Jokies and the rest of it, Like he's in my mind,

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Speaker 3: head and shoulders above the other big men in the league,

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Speaker 3: and so he's well, he should have been deserving of

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Speaker 3: that third MVP, but maybe you get a finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: Well he might get an finals MVP, sort of reminiscent

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Speaker 2: of Giannis a couple of years ago, where he had

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Speaker 2: won back to back MVPs. But they're like, well, what

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Speaker 2: has he done in the postseason? Then he leads the

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Speaker 2: Bucks to an NBA championship that answer that question. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's Jokic's year, but they're going to have to get

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Speaker 2: through the Los Angeles Lakers. You know, there's always this

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Speaker 2: endless debate of the goat, and the conversation always wittles

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Speaker 2: down to two in the NBA. Either you're on the

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. I mean, there's other great players. I mean

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Speaker 2: Bill Russell was the greatest winner. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, his

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Speaker 2: resume speaks for itself. There are a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: but it usually comes down to Jordan and Lebron. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a stat that people don't ever

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Speaker 2: talk about. So whenever it comes down to a Jordan

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Speaker 2: destroy our dear friend Ryan Hollins on TV a couple

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Speaker 2: and Shaq's like, remind me again, what was what was

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Speaker 2: Michael in the finals? Six and zero? What's uh, what's

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Speaker 2: a litt Lebron four and six?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? But to me, like, I think that's just

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Speaker 3: the weird thing because if it comes down to like

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Speaker 3: that part of because that's always been the argument, Oh

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Speaker 3: he's six and oh this Now, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: so if we're doing championships, then how can why isn't

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Speaker 3: Bill Russell ever included in the conversation?

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Speaker 2: Now he won eleven?

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Speaker 3: He won eleven? Yeah, and so that well, that's not

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Speaker 3: it. It's a different time. We can't just keep cherry picking

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Speaker 3: all these different arguments. And I'm saying this as a

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Speaker 3: Tario recognizing all of Jordan's greatness, having lived through all

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Speaker 3: of that greatness, but there's a different level of appreciation

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Speaker 3: that you have to give for Lebron. James longevity has

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Speaker 3: made it where he's going to be. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: the all time leader in scoring, he's going to be

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Speaker 3: one the top two or three and assists and all

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Speaker 3: the other stuff that he's been able to do. But man,

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Speaker 3: he's done it three different teams. He has titles. If

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Speaker 3: he wins this one, if he wins one, now, I

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Speaker 3: mean what, we're gonna run out of things to be

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Speaker 3: able to disparage and when it comes to being the greatest.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me give you a stat if you're a

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Speaker 2: supporter of Lebron for all time. So we again, six

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Speaker 2: and zero for Jordan, four and six Earl Lebron in

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Speaker 2: the NBA finals. How about conference finals records? Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: is six and two in conference finals. He lost consecutive

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Speaker 2: years of the Pistons before they rode through and won

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Speaker 2: six in a row. You know what Lebron's record of

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Speaker 2: conference finals is? How about ten and one? The only

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Speaker 2: loss ever for him in a conference final was when

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers got upset by Orlando, remember that in

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Speaker 2: nine Since then, he has won nine consecutive conference finals

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Speaker 2: in the league. Though I was no it was his

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Speaker 2: fifth sixth year in the little but I mean that

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Speaker 2: was an upset. But in these conference finals, remember he

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Speaker 2: got to the NBA finals eight straight years, four in Miami,

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Speaker 2: four in his return to Cleveland, and obviously the Laker

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Speaker 2: run in twenty twenty. By the way, if the Celtics

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Speaker 2: win tomorrow, the final four this year is exactly the

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Speaker 2: same final four that we had in the Bubble three

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Speaker 2: years ago. Lakers, Denver, Boston, Miami.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Is that a little weird?

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Speaker 2: That's a Boston and they should win tomorrow. But who

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Speaker 2: knows in that series. But Lebron again showed yesterday points

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Speaker 2: he got AD. He knows I can't do it without Ad.

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Speaker 2: Eighties got to play big for us. In fact booky,

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Speaker 2: we said this before the playoffs. I said this before

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Speaker 2: the season began. If the Lakers are going to have

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Speaker 2: a bounce back from last year's nightmare thirty three and

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Speaker 2: forty nine A, they obviously have to have their two

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Speaker 2: healthy right now, and it's all on Anthony Davis. Anthony

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Speaker 2: Davis has to stay healthy and play big at both

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Speaker 2: ends of the court. We talked about Jokic and everything

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Speaker 2: he's done offensively. Anthony Davis has been the most valuable

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Speaker 2: defensive player I think, across the league so far in

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Speaker 2: this postseason. Now he's got to stay on the court.

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Speaker 2: But it was important early in that game for Lebron

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Speaker 2: On to get eighty going in the offense. We had

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Speaker 2: obvious mismatches. When I say we, that's what the Lakers

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Speaker 2: thoughts were going into this game. We got to take

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, and they took full advantage. So these

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Speaker 2: are the reasons why. And again it's not disrespectful to

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan or any other great player. There is no

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Speaker 2: player in the history of this NBA that can match

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Speaker 2: the resumey of Lebron James. He checks more boxes than

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Speaker 2: any other player that ever played this game. And I

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Speaker 2: a family guy. He's never in any kind of trouble

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Speaker 2: or anything else. I like it. I like the way

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Speaker 2: Lebron conducts business. I like his seriousness. He was very

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Speaker 2: emotional after the game yesterday. This was big for him

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Speaker 2: because when you got Steph Curry on the other side,

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Speaker 2: these have been the two dominant forces in this game

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Speaker 2: for the better part of a decade, and this time

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Speaker 3: is just at in today's game where you're throwing it

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Speaker 3: so much. He has to be an integral part of

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Speaker 3: the passing game. And when you look at Jamior Gibbs,

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Speaker 3: he is a wide receiver in the backfield. He is

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Speaker 3: terrific coming out of it. He has the ability to

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Speaker 3: do some of that Christian McCaffrey stuff, li liken them

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Speaker 3: to Alvin Kamara. And so this will only help Jerry

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Speaker 3: Goff because remember if you go back and look at

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Speaker 3: his numbers when he had Todd Gurley, when he had

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Speaker 3: a marquee back behind him or with him that he

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Speaker 3: could utilized in a bunch of different ways, it only

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Speaker 3: elevated his game. And so this is a nice move

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Speaker 3: by those guys making sure that they protect their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little play action works with him, it works

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Speaker 2: for most quarterbacks when he got a threat of a

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Speaker 2: run to freeze that defense a little bit and open

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Speaker 2: up some receivers. All right, let's find out what is

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Speaker 2: trending right now. And this is unbelievable. Months who I

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Speaker 2: don't expect to see on a Saturday, I see her

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Speaker 2: on Sundays. But I'm glad you hear because look who's here.

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Speaker 2: The first time is made in voyage in the new studio.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's your first Dan the news studio.

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Speaker 2: How exciting, You're exciting, You're exciting. So you can see

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Speaker 2: we can see him on semw right. It's not just

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Speaker 2: a voice in the back, it's another voice from heaven.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not from heaven.

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Speaker 6: That is more sure. There's a lot of baseball going

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Speaker 6: on right now, guys. And the Twins have come out

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Speaker 6: hot against the Cubs, I mean their dh Alex Kulov

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Speaker 6: started the bottom of the first inning with the home run,

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Speaker 6: and then in the third inning hit another home run,

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Speaker 6: and then Joey Gallo hit a three run home run.

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Speaker 4: So right now, the.

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Speaker 6: Twins are shutting out the Cubs five zero top of

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Speaker 6: the fourth inning.

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Speaker 2: At home.

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Speaker 6: Marcell Ozuna hit a home run for the Braves, but

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Speaker 6: the Blue Jays are on the scoreboard, so Atlanta is

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Speaker 6: up two to one bottom of the fifth inning, Nationals

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Speaker 6: beating the Mets one zero bottom of the second inning.

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Speaker 6: The Rangers up on the A's one zero bottom of

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Speaker 6: the second inning as well well, and the Red Sox

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Speaker 6: have scored first against the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: One zero top of the second inning.

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Speaker 6: The Yankees, they were down six zero to the Rays

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Speaker 6: in the fifth inning after a grand slam by Yandy Diaz,

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Speaker 6: but the Yankees responded with a couple of home runs,

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Speaker 6: including back to back home runs from Aaron Judge, and

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Speaker 6: the Yankees ended up with a nine to eight comeback win.

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Speaker 2: At home.

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Speaker 6: The Mariners shut out the Tigers in Detroit five zero. Yesterday,

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Speaker 6: left fielder Jake Fraley homer twice for the Reds. He

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Speaker 6: hit the tie breaking shot. They beat the Marlins yesterday

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Speaker 6: seven to four. Today he hits a three year run.

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Speaker 6: Homer has a total of four RBIs and the Reds

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Speaker 6: top the Marlins again six to five. A little NFL news,

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Speaker 6: The Dallas Cowboys opened their rookie camp on Thursday, and

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Speaker 6: according to ESPN head coach Mike McCarthy's in person introduction

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Speaker 6: to this rookie class, we'll have to wait because of

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Speaker 6: a back procedure that was performed last week. He's been

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Speaker 6: taking place in virtual meetings. But the only on field

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Speaker 6: portion of mining camp was to day and it was

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Speaker 6: for a little more than an hour. Obviously, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 6: was there to talk to the players, but Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: not there yet.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, mon see, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, and once again we are coming you live

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Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. Talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about this NFL schedule that was released. You know,

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Speaker 2: I always find it interesting again when people start breaking

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Speaker 2: down a schedule, it's like the draft, you know, grading

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Speaker 2: out the draft before they've actually played a game. Same

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Speaker 2: thing with the schedule. You know, they said, well, this

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Speaker 2: is the toughest schedule, the easiest schedule, that's based on

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Speaker 2: what happened a year ago. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 2: how many people would have predicted a year ago at

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Speaker 2: this time or after the Seattle Seahawks traded Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: to the Denver Broncos, that not only would Seattle have

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Speaker 2: a better record than the Broncos that season, but it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even be close. I mean, Seattle goes nine to

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Speaker 2: eight and got into the playoffs and the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 2: are five and twelve. Who anybody predict that? If you

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Speaker 2: claim you did your lying, nobody you know, and maybe

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Speaker 2: you're rooting for it, but I mean the idea that

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Speaker 2: that was gonna happen. So you know how this works, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: There are always every single season, there are four or

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Speaker 2: five teams that way underperform preseason predictions, and there are

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Speaker 2: four or five teams that way overperform preseason predictions. So

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Speaker 2: when the release of the NFL schedule comes out and

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Speaker 2: we already know in advanced who's playing who and where

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Speaker 2: they're playing, is just the date of the games. What

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Speaker 2: significance is there, if any, with the announcement of the

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Speaker 2: NFL schedule.

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Speaker 3: The significance is being able to hype up what has

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Speaker 3: been I guess the biggest marketing machine that we have

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Speaker 3: in this National Football League and everything that they touch

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Speaker 3: is a great opportunity for us to speculate on the

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Speaker 3: things that you talk about. We talk about hardest schedule,

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Speaker 3: easiest schedule without knowing the teams that we're talking about

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Speaker 3: because we haven't seen them. Every team TA is different

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Speaker 3: because you have the draft, free agency, we have new

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Speaker 3: people swapping teams and so you just don't know. But

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Speaker 3: I love we love pulling out the predictor and saying,

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Speaker 3: oh this team is tenn and seven. It just for

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Speaker 3: ten and seven based on our theories. The great thing

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Speaker 3: about the schedule release as a former player, their handful

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Speaker 3: of things that I look at. First One, when is

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Speaker 3: the bye week? When is the break in the season.

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Speaker 3: How long is the marathon before you get a chance

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Speaker 3: to kind of dip out for a week, reset and recharge.

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Speaker 3: That's important bye week. Secondly, what is the stretch run

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Speaker 3: like we have seen in the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: the first half of the years. It put yourself in

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Speaker 3: pole position to make a playoff push down the stretch, Well,

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Speaker 3: who do you have on your schedule the last four

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Speaker 3: to six games that really matters? Or the division games

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Speaker 3: or on the road home? Do you have an advantage?

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Speaker 3: Do you finish with cupcakes? All those things? And then

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Speaker 3: the final part of it is where are my division

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Speaker 3: games and win? Do we play the division games early?

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Speaker 3: Are they late? Do we play on the road earlier?

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Speaker 3: We had to finish on the road. All of those

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Speaker 3: things matter because as you're a coach and as you're

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Speaker 3: a player, you're trying to logistically put things to bed.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to get everything set in your mind. How

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Speaker 3: am I gonna have to play this season? What am

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Speaker 3: I going to need to do to get myself ready

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Speaker 3: to be at my best when we need it, particularly

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Speaker 3: down in the stretch and in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you detect any bias when you see schedules

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Speaker 2: come out for some of the reasons that you gave

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Speaker 2: where it seems like certain franchises get the benefit of

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Speaker 2: having certain games either earlier or later in the season.

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Speaker 2: Have you detected anything, because you know fans will always say,

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Speaker 2: what the heck is going on here? How do we

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Speaker 2: get look at our schedule, Are you kidding me? Look

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Speaker 2: at our division rival they got to How do you

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Speaker 2: ever believe there's any bias? Because it really is a

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Speaker 2: jigsaw puzzle because again, all you know is based on

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Speaker 2: the previous year, who you're going to be playing and

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Speaker 2: where you're going to be playing, But the order of

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Speaker 2: the games. I can't imagine how they actually figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do they sit in a room so they

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Speaker 2: just throw it in a computer and randomly spin it out.

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Speaker 2: Because if human decision is involved in the process, then

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Speaker 2: you are open and susceptible to some sort of bias.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to think that there's some bias that

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Speaker 3: could be baked in there. I'm sure they use a

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Speaker 3: lot of computer simulations to kind of run it. You

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Speaker 3: then have to get with the networks. Please remember this

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Speaker 3: year is the first year where the network's unnecessarily tied

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Speaker 3: to a conference. In the past, we always had Fox

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Speaker 3: that deal with the NFC, CBS dealt with the AFC,

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Speaker 3: and that's how those games went well. Now every game

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Speaker 3: is a la carte and so we will see different things.

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Speaker 3: So we used to tune it in to see Tony

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Speaker 3: Romo talking about a certain team. We won't see that

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Speaker 3: this year, and so this would be fun and it'd

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Speaker 3: be fun to see how the computers see if the

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Speaker 3: computer got it right, per se. So I think there's

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Speaker 3: a stretch for the New York Giants, for instance, seven

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Speaker 3: road games in nine weeks, not really conducid for them

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Speaker 3: going back to the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Now, what would they do?

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Speaker 3: That is just a hard road? Yeah, maybe a computer

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Speaker 3: just spit it out that you have all of these

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Speaker 3: road games there. So you have situations like that that

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Speaker 3: kind of make you raise an eyebroute, like, man, that's weird.

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Speaker 3: That's a really tough schedule based on what But that's

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Speaker 3: not a kicky frumble.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: And obviously with all the money it's being paid out

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Speaker 2: by the various networks and platforms that are presenting NFL football,

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Speaker 2: they obviously want to have the best games each week.

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Speaker 2: They hate to be stuck with games that, even if

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Speaker 2: it looked like a really good matchup early on, suddenly

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Speaker 2: becomes a really bad matchup. How are you feeling about

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Speaker 2: this flexing? The vote is expected later this month to

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Speaker 2: officially approve the idea of flexing now Thursday night games.

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Speaker 2: How much of a challenge. Would that be for teams

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Speaker 2: to have to flex into a Thursday night game that

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Speaker 2: was originally not on the schedule.

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Speaker 3: They give you three weeks. I think they have to

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Speaker 3: give you three weeks to prepare for that. But it's

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a challenge. It obviously is not on

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Speaker 3: the thing. And for guys who love a routine, if

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Speaker 3: you can imagine, you've been around enough coaches to know

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Speaker 3: coaches like their routine. I think even in college, Nick Saban,

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Speaker 3: it's the same thing every day. It's a little salid,

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Speaker 3: little Debbie oatmeal ka. I mean that's that's that's the

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Speaker 3: environment that you're talking about. So you can imagine knocking

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Speaker 3: to a coach, coach, I know you used to us

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Speaker 3: playing on Sunday, but we got to play on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: and how that changes things. And so you have to

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Speaker 3: be adapted. All the coaches have had to prepare their

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Speaker 3: teams on short weeks. But it's definitely not a thing

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Speaker 3: that you like to do on the fly. I remember

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Speaker 3: last year talking to Doug Peterson when they were trying

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Speaker 3: to sort out, you know, the finale at the end

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Speaker 3: of the year. They decided to move the Titans game

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Speaker 3: from a Sunday to a Saturday night, and they were

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Speaker 3: coming off a late I think it was a late

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Speaker 3: Sunday game, so short travel couldn't get it in. Teams

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Speaker 3: ahead of it the Titans that played on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: so they had a little bit of an advantage and

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Speaker 3: just the annoyance that they may have, but ultimately, you

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Speaker 3: suck it up, you figure out a way to do it.

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Speaker 3: This is what we have, this is how we have

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Speaker 3: to get it done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to happen, by the way, I promise

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Speaker 2: you that the official vote will come later on this

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Speaker 2: month that they're gonna have flexing look at that. As

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Speaker 2: you said, they're no longer tied to commitments from the networks,

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Speaker 2: so expect to see a lot of shenanigans. And it's

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Speaker 2: even going to get more so down the road, Bucket,

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Speaker 2: because we do know that they eventually the NFL will

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Speaker 2: expand to an eighteen game schedule and most likely spread

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Speaker 2: it out over twenty weeks where you have two bye weeks.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about bye weeks, if you were to

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Speaker 2: just pick a week, like you had your choice of

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Speaker 2: a week to have the BUYE, what week would you choose?

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Speaker 3: Right in the middle. So if it's a seventeen game season,

654
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Speaker 3: week nine, week ten, somewhere there, because it's a long

655
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Speaker 3: time to go. If you go later week thirteen, you're

656
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Speaker 3: talking about you've done all the training camps. Training camp

657
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: is like six weeks, so you have six weeks on

658
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Speaker 3: top of the number of games that you played. Ten

659
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Speaker 3: push your sixteen weeks of steady work without a break.

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Speaker 3: That's ideal to have the breaking in to be able

661
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Speaker 3: to reset. If it goes later, man, that's a long grind.

662
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Speaker 3: And if he goes too early, now you got to

663
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Speaker 3: finish with the grind. And so it's the sweet spot

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Speaker 3: is right in the middle.

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Speaker 2: So my younger son is a huge Chargers fan. There

666
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Speaker 2: are a lot of real Chargers fans out there, but

667
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Speaker 2: he's a big Chargers fan. And we like to look

668
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: at some prime time game that we're going to go to,

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Speaker 2: and the one prime dame game that just jumped out

670
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Speaker 2: at us, a Monday night game at home against the

671
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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, by the way, coming off a week five bye,

672
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: so think about this, this is not exactly a favorite

673
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Speaker 2: of the Chargers. So you get a bye week the

674
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Speaker 2: first possible week where you get a bye meaning that

675
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna have twelve straight games after that or thirteen.

676
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Speaker 2: I can't do the math, but you're gonna have a

677
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: home game in which, oh, I don't know, ninety percent

678
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Speaker 2: of the crowd is gonna be with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know as well as I do, how

680
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Speaker 2: many Cowboy fans reside here in southern California. It is

681
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: gonna be all Cowboys fans. Not exactly a favorable situation.

682
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get more into the NFL schedule. Also,

683
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Speaker 2: another NFL story that's come out about enticement, and the

684
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Speaker 2: question is what exactly are you trying to entice people

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Speaker 2: with to get what you want? We'll tell you. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, this is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming alive from the tairaq dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. Coming up a little bit later on Adam

689
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: Kaplan Are NFL Insider is gonna be joining us who've

690
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: been talking about the NFL schedule. We'll also plenty more

691
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Speaker 2: on these NBA playoffs. One more game to decide the

692
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: final piece missing in the final four. Can you believe

693
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Speaker 2: the Lakers are in the conference finals? They'll take on

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Speaker 2: Denver and then the Miami Heat, an eight seed, a

695
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Speaker 2: team that actually lost a playing game, is in the

696
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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals, and they'll play the winner of tomorrow's

697
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: game between the Celtics and the Sixers. I got to

698
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: get to this story though. This agent, David Canter, is

699
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Speaker 2: under investigation by the NFL Players Association for offering, you know,

700
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Speaker 2: some kind of inducements to draft his clients. And apparently

701
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: the inducement, allegedly, and again this guy is denying any wrongdoing,

702
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: is the use of vacation properties. Okay, let's now you've

703
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: been on that executive side of the NFL. You've been

704
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: in a position where your recommendation could well determine who

705
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: a player, what players are drafted. So you know this

706
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: all about. So if somebody, if an agent actually came

707
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Speaker 2: in and said, hey, Bucky, you know I got this

708
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Speaker 2: guy here in I'm telling you he's a pretty good player. Now,

709
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Speaker 2: I don't know where he stands in your board, but

710
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Speaker 2: let's just put it this way. Let's say you guys

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Speaker 2: take him. I'll give you a chance to have a

712
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: little vacation time in one of my properties. Can you

713
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Speaker 2: imagine any person who is dependent on their recommendations for

714
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Speaker 2: a job in the National Football League to take an enticement.

715
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, money is one thing, but the idea that

716
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: you could have some vacation time in Hawaii. Could you

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Speaker 2: imagine any NFL person saying, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna risk

718
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Speaker 2: my job in the NFL and I'm gonna take your

719
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Speaker 2: player even though we don't like it, so I can

720
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Speaker 2: have some vacation time, any sense at all?

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Speaker 3: A little vacation time, vacation look, R and R is important,

722
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Speaker 3: a little work life balance to be able to get it.

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Speaker 2: And cause you're talking, I have never vacations.

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Speaker 3: Ago ahead like for some of those guys. Yeah, to

725
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: be able to go home, be like, babe, got a spot,

726
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: we can go vacation. You become like man of the Year,

727
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: and so I can see the enticement. Look, I have

728
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: a hard time believing that people followed through on this.

729
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Speaker 2: But remind me again, what would you say the average

730
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Speaker 2: salary is of a general manager in the National Football League?

731
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Speaker 3: Oh, they're up there now, Yeah, like millions, millions.

732
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Speaker 2: Of dollars if you're a general manager. And of course

733
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams like Jerry Jones of Dallas and

734
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Speaker 2: going back to the day of my my former mentor,

735
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: there Al Davis. Some owners actually make final picks, so

736
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Speaker 2: they're really not dependent on general managers. But I yeah,

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Speaker 2: I I don't. I don't know how you could fix

738
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Speaker 2: a pick like that. It doesn't even make sense to me.

739
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Speaker 3: No, that is a that's an interesting deal. Like I

740
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can fix it.

741
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Speaker 2: I mean, even if it was true, why would any

742
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Speaker 2: NFL agent has any experience at all in the process

743
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Speaker 2: think that he could offer, Hey, you want to use

744
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: my vacation property draft this guy?

745
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Come on, and if that was the case, why would

746
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: it be documented? Right?

747
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 7: Like?

748
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: What?

749
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 7: Why would it be documented? Why wouldn't you handle that

751
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 7: in a phone call? It doesn't make any sense to

752
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Speaker 7: me at all. I mean I was laughing when I

753
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 7: saw this story. Again, the guy's denying it, but I'm like,

754
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 7: come on, uh, he's.

755
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Speaker 3: Been a long time, He's been age for a long time. Yeah,

756
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know the name. I know, David. David

757
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: has been aging for a long time.

758
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Speaker 2: So you know this guy does he seem like the

759
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Speaker 2: kind of guy that wouldn't restart To.

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Speaker 3: Me, I don't think he hasked to do that. He's

761
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Speaker 3: a good agent. He's been a good age, he's been

762
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Speaker 3: in the league for a long time. He's deal with

763
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Speaker 3: a lot of big time contracts. It doesn't seem Here's

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Speaker 3: what I would say. Let's say to take one of

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Speaker 3: his guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's say you have a client and you

767
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Speaker 2: want him to sneak into the first round, not you know,

768
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Speaker 2: about half of the first round, you know, and obviously

769
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Speaker 2: he's going to benefit financially if that guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: the difference between let's say, being an end of a

771
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Speaker 2: second round pick and first round pick is substantial in

772
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Speaker 2: terms of the money that's not going only into the

773
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Speaker 2: player's pocket, but the agent's pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But the other thing with that, I think everyone

775
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: here's where you can't miss. The guy has to be

776
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: a good player. Well, so that's the thing. Is one

777
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: thing too. I want to entice him that there's another

778
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: thing to say. He needs to be a good player

779
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Speaker 3: to be worthy of being taken in the first in

780
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Speaker 3: the first round. It's just not a thing that you just, oh,

781
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: we're just going to throw away a pick.

782
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: Although first round picks, I know you we've seen many

783
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: drafts over the years. Bucky were like, how the hell

784
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: was that guy picked in the first round.

785
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have, but everyone thinks differently. That's it. Yeah,

786
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: it still is a lot to think that a general

787
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Speaker 3: manager is going to take on all this stuff that

788
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Speaker 3: comes to my first round pick, the money that the

789
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Speaker 3: owner is paying to the first round, or the expectations

790
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Speaker 3: that come with the player for uh four days and

791
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Speaker 3: three nights.

792
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had some time share that you want

794
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: to know, what's the deal? It just it just seems

795
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: like it seems like a lot. I know, there's a

796
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Speaker 2: lot of crazy things going on all right. Coming up

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Speaker 2: in the next hour, we're gonna have much more of

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Speaker 2: the NFL news going on. We got some MLB we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to. We're also gonna be focused on these

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs and tomorrow is a Game seven between the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics and the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Philly had

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Speaker 2: a chance to close it out at home and the

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Speaker 2: Sixers Celtics came through. Who's gonna win that Game seven matchup?

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break it all down, keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: joining us. We got much more obviously on what's happening

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Speaker 2: around the NFL with the schedule release, little MLB to

820
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Speaker 2: get to, and of course plenty of talk about these

821
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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs. Three of the four slots are filled. As

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Speaker 2: far as the final four is concern a seven seed.

823
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: The Lakers are in an eight seed, the Miami Heat

824
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Speaker 2: are in. Now the question is who will join them

825
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: and the Denver Nuggets in the final four. Tomorrow, Bucky

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Speaker 2: we get Game seven Boston and Philadelphia, big time rivals.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia had that huge win Game five in Boston, a

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Speaker 2: lot of people thought, all right, they're gonna come home

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Speaker 2: and win it, and Boston took it away from them late,

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Speaker 2: so now they will go back to Boston. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a toss up game. I remember again you mentioned

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Speaker 2: this earlier. We were talking about our MVP ballot a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. How you fill it out and

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Speaker 2: you had James Harden on your ballot. Yes, and James

835
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 2: Harden didn't any recognition in the MVP voting. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: on the All NBA team, although he want you look

837
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Speaker 2: at his numbers, double digits assist average for the season,

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Speaker 2: averaged twenty points a game. Not the scoring machine that

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Speaker 2: he used to be. But you look at this series.

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Speaker 2: Game one, the forty five point outburst, which was a

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Speaker 2: win on the road without embiid, and then that huge

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Speaker 2: Game four that he had when he had forty two

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Speaker 2: points after they had lost Game three at home. Philly

844
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Speaker 2: needed that win at home and they pulled it out

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Speaker 2: when he knocked down the game winner. But then you

846
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: saw Game six where Harden was awful. I mean, he's

847
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: four sixteen shooting, missed every three point shot he took.

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Speaker 2: Dare I say that the deciding factor in Game seven,

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Speaker 2: if you're the Philadelphia seventy six ers, is going to

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Speaker 2: be the performance of James Harden. It's not going to

851
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: be about Embiid, it's not going to be about Max,

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be about anybody other than James Harden.

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Speaker 2: And if you're Doc Rivers right now getting ready for

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00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: the Celtics, how can you ensure yourself that Harden is

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00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: going to have the kind of game that they're gonna

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00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: need from him to come out on top on the road.

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Speaker 3: So the thing that you have to do when you're

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Speaker 3: Doc Rivers and you understand the Stars, and the thing

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Speaker 3: is you want to get the stars off and going.

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Speaker 3: And if you have someone that may be a little

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Speaker 3: more temperamental, more a little more streaky, you want to

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00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: make sure early in the game you get them going.

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00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: You saw Lebron tried to make sure that Ad was

864
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: comfortable early in the game so he can get him

865
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: off to that fast start because he knew that that confidence,

866
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: that momentum would sustain itself well for James Harden. If

867
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: you're Doc Rivers, you want to maybe call a few

868
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: things and let James get buckets early so he can

869
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: stay engaged. Sometimes it's hard for guys to even at

870
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 3: the pro level, to stay engaged when they either haven't

871
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: touched it, they haven't shot it, they haven't seen the

872
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: ball going the hoop a couple of times. You have

873
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: to know your players, and this is where coaching matters.

874
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: You have to know what your players need to be

875
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: at their best, and sometimes it may require you to

876
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: to get outside of your comfort zone to set the

877
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 3: game plan to allow you guys to have success right away.

878
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Well, if you saw Harden in his heyday with the Rockets,

879
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: you know he's at his best when he's ball dominant.

880
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 2: And we saw that in Game one, and we saw

881
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: that in Game four when he gets that confidence to

882
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: go to the hoop draw fouls, that's James Harden at

883
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: his best. If I'm doc Rivers, look I embiid is embid,

884
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: I get it. Here's your MVP. But he's not the

885
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: guy that's going to decide this game. This game is

886
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: going to be decided by James Harden. I'm gonna let

887
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: Harden monopolize the basketball as much as humanly possible early

888
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: in this game. He's got to get himself into the game.

889
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: You know that first game without you know, when he

890
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: knew I'm gonna have to do more obviously with him

891
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: beat out and it was brilliant. I mean, that was

892
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: as good as you're ever going to see James Harden.

893
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: Same thing in Game four. So I I would imagine

894
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers. Although it is Doc Rivers, right, I mean,

895
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Doc is not a exactly got a glowing postseason record

896
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: to be This Game six loss at home was a

897
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: reminder again of so many failed opportunities in the postseason

898
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: by Doc Rivers. Everyone loves Doc, He's the most likable

899
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: coach in the NBA. He is a reporter's dream.

900
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 4: He is.

901
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: He will sit there and talk to everybody. He always

902
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: has fans in the media. But his postseason record, yikes.

903
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: He's blown more three to one series leads than any

904
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: coach in the history of the NBA. And for the

905
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Sixers to lose that game at home after winning on

906
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: the road Game five was a reminder again that Doc

907
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Rivers when it comes to postseason basketball, is not a

908
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: coach he can count on.

909
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Is that him though? Or is that a boy breaker

910
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: some of the guys?

911
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: Every time you say that, but him, what is he

912
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: there for? I means millions of dollars. If it has

913
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with the coach, then why do

914
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: we have a coach at all?

915
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean Kyrie and Kate he said you didn't need

916
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: to coach in Brooklyn. Well exactly, they said, you don't

917
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: need to coach.

918
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Till Russell was a player coach his last few years

919
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: and they won championships.

920
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: They did so, so we're putting all of that that

921
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 3: happened in game six on. We're putting that on Doc.

922
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: We're saying to Doc, well look at late in that game.

923
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: How about the late in the game. So Philadelphia, first

924
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: of all, you were fortunate that Tatum goes oh for

925
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: ten shooty in the first half, and somehow the Celtics

926
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: get credit for that.

927
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Maybe did a good job of.

928
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: Well you had a fourth quarter lead at home, how

929
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: did it slip away?

930
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: I mean he didn't turn the ball over?

931
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Then what is he there for that? That is every

932
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: time when somebody makes excuses, well he didn't trouble the ball,

933
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: he didn't shoot the ball. Then what is his purpose?

934
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: His purpose is to put together the game plan and

935
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: keep the guys there, manage the personalities, make sure they

936
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: have all the tools that they need to be successful

937
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: and more times than not, the team with the better

938
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: players ends up winning. But what he really needs, he

939
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: needs the stars to play like stars. Well, I agree, Martin,

940
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid, and I would say timer, those guys have

941
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: to play like stars. If those three play like stars,

942
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: they'll be the Celtics. If they don't, it won't because

943
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: it comes down to two those two guys, James Hard

944
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: and Joel Embiid, dealing with Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum,

945
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: who out plays them and then is one random guy.

946
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: It's a rando that's gonna really make a handful of shots.

947
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm glad you mentioned Jason Tatum and

948
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown. So Tatum makes first Team All NBA for

949
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: the second consecutive year, Jayalen Brown made second Team All

950
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: NBA for the first time.

951
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: We gotta pay him.

952
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: Which one of those two guys. If you're the Celtics,

953
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: do you want to have take the big shots for you?

954
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they want Jason Tatum to take the

955
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: big shots because they view him as a franchise guy.

956
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: Is he If you want to look at the numbers

957
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: and break down the consistency of Jalen Brown versus Jason Tatum.

958
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: It's almost night and day. I you know, I mean,

959
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jalen Brown is comfortably in the

960
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: shadows of a Jason Tatum. Kenny gets a lot of

961
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: hype when when you really break down the numbers though,

962
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: it's really not even close.

963
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: And maybe that's some of the frustration you sense from

964
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown when he's at the podium right talking about

965
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: he has been mandated to be the number two guy,

966
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: and in his mind he said, I could be the

967
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: number one. I am the number one. And it's hard

968
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: sometimes to check your ego at the door because also

969
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: you get to remember, Jason Tatum is a look, he's

970
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: one of the Kobe generation, you know, like they these

971
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 3: I wan't see bad shots, but difficult shots. Tough shot makers.

972
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: I think that's what we call them. They take tough shots, yeah,

973
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: tough shots, one leg fade away, yea, falling out of

974
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: bounds in those things. And so they Updanny on degree

975
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: of difficulty and sometimes they're able to make it, but

976
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 3: when it's not falling, it makes for a very long game.

977
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: Then other thing is he hit three bang bang bang

978
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: in the fourth course.

979
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: He did after his historically bad first half, yes, but

980
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: oh for ten one point. I'm looking at demos all

981
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: ast the game seven, all right, it is I cannot

982
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: wait for this matchup tomorrow. Right, Game seven Celtics six.

983
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of history there. But in the end,

984
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: if it is one of those games that comes down

985
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: to a final shot and it's the Celtics with an

986
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: opportunity to get it done, Tatum is going to most

987
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: likely take that shot. I'm not so sure he should

988
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: be the guy that should take that he is.

989
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: Most likely, Yeah, he is taking the shot, taking it.

990
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the way it was with Kobe

991
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: back in the day. I used to sit there and

992
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: Laker fans really get upset with me because you know,

993
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: I was part of the Laker station and I would

994
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: break down these numbers of Kobe in the clutch and

995
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: they were ugly. He took by far the most shots

996
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: of any player with the game on the line in

997
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: the fourth court. Or you wouldn't allow anybody else to

998
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: take this shot. No, but if you compare to the

999
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: numbers like Mike Carmelo, Anthony's percentage shooting the same shots

1000
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: was fifteen percent higher than Kobe Bryant, and yet Kobe

1001
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: was deemed as like, Oh, he's the guy, and a

1002
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: guy like Melow was not.

1003
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: Because it's our fault. It's hot take culture, it's media

1004
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: stuff where we talked about the best player always has

1005
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: to take the last shot, and so we grew up

1006
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: in a time where all these guys listen to that,

1007
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: and so they begin to feel like that's what you're

1008
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: at because it's been defined by us, the guys behind

1009
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: the mike. Hey, best player has to take that shot.

1010
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: You got to be clutched, to clutch factor, all of

1011
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: that other stuff, and so those things impacted. So you

1012
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: have all these guys they grew up saying, I have

1013
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: to take the shot. If I'm the best player, I

1014
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: have to take it where it used to be make

1015
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: the best basketball play.

1016
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: The Warriors are out after winning their fourth NBA championship

1017
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: a year ago in the Steph Curry era, coming off

1018
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: the embarrassing loss yesterday. What does the future hold for

1019
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: the proud Golden State Warriors franchise and what kind of

1020
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: moves can they make in the offseason to get back

1021
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: on top. We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1022
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday.

1023
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: We're coming alive from the Tyraq dot Com studios watching

1024
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: a baseball game here Oakland, A's hosting the Texas Rangers.

1025
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: There's like fifteen people at the game in Oakland. I mean,

1026
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, it's a Saturday day game,

1027
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: but I mean it is empty, empty there in Oakland. Understandably,

1028
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: this team is historically bad. Horrific Vegas. Do you want

1029
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: the ac and down? I didn't think so. I mean, seriously,

1030
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a city and you're like, hey,

1031
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: we'd love to have a major league baseball team right now,

1032
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: this is not a major League baseball team, not even

1033
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 2: close to a major League baseball team.

1034
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's unfortunate. Having lived in a Bay having

1035
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: gone to a bunch of games there, I just bad

1036
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: when they're not good. Man, you're just so used to

1037
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: seeing day. He's not that they were competing, but they

1038
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: were always like the underdog that you know, could could

1039
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: find a way to stand in mix u.

1040
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: He wasn't that long ago. With Bob Melvin as their manager,

1041
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: they had back to back ninety seven win seasons. I

1042
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: mean that was within the last seven or eight years.

1043
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he about did he go San Diego?

1044
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, lotteries now Yeah, Yeah, he's the hell of a manager.

1045
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 8: All right.

1046
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: I want to talk about another Bay Area team. That

1047
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: would be the Golden State Warriors, who went down to

1048
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: defeat in ugly fashion yesterday as Klay Thompson missed everything

1049
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: and Steph wasn't that far behind their two superstar splash

1050
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: brothers had a horrific shooting day and that was it.

1051
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: And honestly, when you looked at this series, Bucky, over

1052
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: six games, the better team won. Yeah, the Lakers are

1053
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: a better team right now than the Golden State Warriors,

1054
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: and better team one. But I'm looking like, all right,

1055
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: so the Warriors regroup, rebuild, Not so fast. The Warriors

1056
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 2: this year had the second highest payroll in the entire NBA,

1057
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: and everybody is on payroll for next year, everybody. Jordan

1058
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: Poole got paid three point nine million this year. You

1059
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: know what his salary is next year? Twenty eight point

1060
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: seven million. How about that first half? Twelve minutes, zero

1061
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: points four fouls. Howd he look there? Steph Curry is

1062
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: on the hook for fifty two million guaranteed in salary

1063
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: next year. Klay Thompson guaranteed forty three point two million

1064
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: next year. Wigans twenty four point three million. Draymond Green's

1065
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: got a player option, Think he's gonna take it? Twenty

1066
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: eight million dollars, Gary Payton Looney. They're all under contract.

1067
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: They have over two hundred million dollars in guaranteed money

1068
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: a year from now. They don't have any moving parts.

1069
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: They have no one leaving the franchise to open up

1070
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: any room. Their record, by the way, Bucky over the

1071
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: last four regular seasons combined is one fifty one and

1072
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: one fifty. So if you look back at a year

1073
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: ago as a three seed to emerge his NBA champions,

1074
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: it was a great crowning achievement for the Big Three.

1075
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: They could do it without Kevin Durant and Hack Narhat.

1076
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: But really a lot of things had to happen right

1077
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: for them to do what they did a year ago,

1078
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: and it did. Everything broke, everything broke their way. I'm

1079
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: if you're a Warriors fan, I know they're a lot

1080
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: out there. I'm sorry. It's gonna get worse before it

1081
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: gets better. There's no way out of this. And I

1082
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: think what we clearly saw. I think in this series,

1083
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people were concerned about maybe a decline

1084
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: with the Lakers. It was a decline in the Warriors.

1085
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: They looked old, they looked tired, and that three point

1086
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: shooting isn't what it was. I think they shot less

1087
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: than thirty percent over the last five games of the series.

1088
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: So I don't think we're going to see any more

1089
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: of the Warriors challenging for an NBA championship.

1090
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: With this group, it'll be tough because West is only

1091
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: gonna get better. You have to think that Memphis is

1092
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: going to be better. The Nuggets are there, The Lakers

1093
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: have suddenly flipped a team where they're young enough to

1094
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: be in contention another year with this group growing. Sacramento Yeah,

1095
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: sack sax Town like the Beam Like, so yeah, this

1096
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: is it's gonna be tough. Like right now we're talking

1097
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: about them the go to state Warriors. They got in

1098
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: as a sixth seed. So if we're already talking about that,

1099
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: we're now talking discussing maybe being a play in candidate

1100
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: and then you got to win and you're in and

1101
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: all that other stuff. Are they built for that? Also,

1102
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: I think one more year left with Steve Kerr, they

1103
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: have to make a decision on where they're gon to

1104
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: do an extension. Bob Myers could be out a whole

1105
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: new time in debate double tax.

1106
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're just gonna have to They're just

1107
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: gonna They're just gonna have to play out the string.

1108
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: They don't have any moving pieces, so everybody's gonna be back.

1109
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean this this goes back

1110
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: to the old load management situation. One thing about when

1111
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: you have guys that are three point shooters, uh and

1112
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: can do it at the alarming rate that Obviously Steph

1113
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: and Clay have done it in their peak years. But man,

1114
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean they were I'm watching Steph Curry last night.

1115
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: Granted the game was, you know, they were down twenty

1116
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: seven to ten to start the game, so it was

1117
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: almost desperation time early. But he was just taking some wild,

1118
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 2: ugly shots and I know, occasionally hits one of these,

1119
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: You're like, whoa man Radish shooter of all time? Yeah,

1120
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: but he missed six in a row before that one,

1121
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: And Clay Thompson was just as air balling shots.

1122
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: Pressure man, pressure changes everything.

1123
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Like pressure's on a team. The story got four rings

1124
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: in the bank. The pressure was on the Lakers'.

1125
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: Still elimination game. He's fighting for your lives, desperation, trying

1126
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: to figure it out. Now you go home like they

1127
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: went home. You don't want that, and trying to avoid it,

1128
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: trying to stave it off.

1129
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just assume that we've seen the last

1130
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: of the Warriors as a championship contender. In other words,

1131
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: their legacy is now complete. And that's a dynasty. You

1132
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: make six trips to the NBA Finals, you win four championships,

1133
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 2: you got guys are gonna be in the Hall of Fame,

1134
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: no question about that. A coach that's going to be

1135
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. So when we think about

1136
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: other dynasties that we've seen over the years, like the

1137
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Spurs in their heyday, are certainly the Lakers or the

1138
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: Bulls or get anty than the Celtics. Obviously, where where

1139
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: does this Warriors legacy stand with you? And what kind

1140
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: of impact, good or bad did it have on the

1141
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: rest of the league?

1142
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: Huge impact on the rest of the league in terms

1143
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: of a few things. Style of play. After the Warriors

1144
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: kind of made the change and went from like a

1145
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: plotting team to a running gun team up and down.

1146
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 3: Everyone thought it was fun it was fun to watch,

1147
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: It was entertain They had a big a bunch of

1148
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: fans tune in. Steph was given the freedom of the lane.

1149
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: He can just now and dribble, drive and do all

1150
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: this hale glow trigger tricks and do that. Klay Thompson

1151
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: was a perfect compliment Draymond Green. Whatever role he had

1152
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: to play, he was solid. So all those guys will

1153
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 3: be recognizing, all those guys will be viewed as Hall

1154
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: of famers because of the team's success. Steve Kerr will

1155
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: be viewed as an all time great based on his success,

1156
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: you know. So, I think you'll see a lot of

1157
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: You'll see and hear a lot of the conversation about

1158
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: super teams and those things. But really, to me, it

1159
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: was being able to lean and tap into some of

1160
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: those AAU conversations, those connections to make it right. And

1161
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 3: they were able to do that when Draymond picked up

1162
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 3: a phone called KD and so well, we'll see, but

1163
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: you have a Hall of Fame squad. Four out of

1164
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: six is great, excellent, But I don't know if they're

1165
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: the way they play the game will be long lasting

1166
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: because I think we're beginning to see teams already kind

1167
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: of shift back to using the mid range game, layups

1168
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: in those.

1169
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Things, all right. Legacy of the Warriors also include some

1170
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: kind of mention obviously of Kevin Durant. So he was

1171
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: there for three years, they got to the finals all

1172
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: three years they won the first two. Last year he

1173
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: got hurt, they lose to Toronto, and since then it

1174
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: hasn't been great for the Warriors, although they had this

1175
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: one breakout run where they win a championship. And for

1176
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, he hasn't won jack since he left town,

1177
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: and that was on full display with that embarrassing home

1178
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: playoff blowout lost to Denver the other night, where he

1179
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: even conceded it wasn't good. And by the way, he

1180
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: was a big part of it because he couldn't shoot

1181
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: the ball straight. So when you talk about the Warriors legacy,

1182
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: how is your inclusion of Kevin Durant in the importance

1183
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: of that to that legacy.

1184
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very important because he got them over

1185
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: to hump only because of the way he entered. He

1186
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: entered in the midst of this team, being dispatched after

1187
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: losing a three to one after going up three.

1188
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming off of seventy three wins season.

1189
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: Couldn't finish it. So Draymond everyone just document. Jerrymond calls

1190
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: him crime from car Katie, we need you to come.

1191
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: He comes and fixes it, plays, he roll saves today

1192
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: and does his thing. So he gets full credit for

1193
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: being able to be the guy to get him over

1194
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: to Hump. But because he didn't last there, like it's

1195
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: gonna be tough, it's gonna be individual versus teams.

1196
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: Well, where does Kevin Durant stand now since his post

1197
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: Warrior days?

1198
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: Oh, it has been great at all. I mean I

1199
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: don't know if he's won as one series. I don't

1200
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: know if they want anything since he since he nothing

1201
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 3: moved on.

1202
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: I just again, we always talk in terms of legacy,

1203
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: whether it's on a team basis or an individual basis,

1204
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: what is their legacy and we always tie it to winning. Right, Well,

1205
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant won two rings. He was an NBA Finals

1206
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: MVP twice. He was the dominant force for the Warriors

1207
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: in those victories over the Cavaliers, but they had already

1208
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: beaten the cab without him, and they had a stunning

1209
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: loss the year before he arrived to the Cavaliers.

1210
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: I just he would have to be. He had to

1211
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: have a stunning you know, a super.

1212
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1213
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: Well that's my point is, is Durant on your off

1214
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: ten top players of all Time list?

1215
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 3: I think he has to be somewhere there. I can't

1216
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: you think. I think so he has.

1217
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: To be up to Would he be ahead of Steph?

1218
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 3: Steph's rings and pedigree, So.

1219
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: You would rank Steph ahead of Kevin Durant.

1220
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: I think we have to.

1221
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: I would have to based on the amount of stuff

1222
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: Chack and Kobe ahead of him.

1223
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: M M, nice combo. I mean, yes, well.

1224
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: They both they won championships without each other, right, yeah, yeah,

1225
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: oh yes, I've put him ahead. Okay, well that's three already.

1226
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to a lot of other names. I don't.

1227
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't see Durant in my top ten anymore. I

1228
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: might have put him there five years ago, but post Warriors.

1229
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: Katie, not top five, No, not tough time all time Greek.

1230
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a lot of great scores in

1231
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: the NBA over the years.

1232
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 3: You remember the Iceman back in the day, George Gerbon

1233
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: I did. I had to poster oh Man a nice

1234
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: silver ball.

1235
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there's you talk about a forgotten superstar. Of

1236
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: the game. There's one.

1237
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: He was a four time scoring champion. I know, I

1238
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: kind of reminds me of you talking about posters. Was

1239
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: that Truck Robinson back then?

1240
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Trock Robinson rebounding machine from Phoenix? Yeah, truck and get

1241
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: all the way back they go. We can go all

1242
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: the way back. All right, Let's find out what's trending

1243
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: right now. I'll look at Manci talk about all time legends.

1244
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: Just having anyone here on his Saturday monster just brightons

1245
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: our day.

1246
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Yeah, I mean, at least it's you here

1247
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 6: on a Saturday. And I like you because I have

1248
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 6: to work on my days off. But people I don't

1249
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 6: like it would be awful. But hold on a second,

1250
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 6: mister Hartman, did you just say because Bucky said that

1251
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 6: he's on your top five? I think you said he

1252
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 6: wasn't in your top ten?

1253
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant all time? No, he's not in my not

1254
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: even in your top ten?

1255
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: What what? Why are you?

1256
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: My players there have been in an NBA history. Let's

1257
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: just start with the Biggs who. I'll give you a

1258
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: guy right off the bat who I would rank clearly

1259
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: ahead of him, a Keema Lage one. Okay, Kim olaj

1260
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: One right there. Okay, all right, that's a Keem Olaje

1261
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: one who's probably the fifth greatest center of all time.

1262
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: So you got Russell Wilt Kareem, you got shot. So

1263
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: that's five centers alone that I have ahead of him.

1264
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: Now you want to go to the guards. I know

1265
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. You rank Michael Jordan ahead of him, Kobe Bryant,

1266
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, five time champion. I'm already at eight, listen,

1267
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: and I barely straight the service. I don't even know

1268
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: if you bigs top fifteen at this point. Grazy yeah,

1269
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you see, this is the thing about like

1270
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: not having perspective on the history of the sport. You're

1271
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: like in the now. But even now, would he be

1272
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: would he be one of the ten best players in

1273
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: the NBA right now?

1274
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: You don't think he's top ten right right now?

1275
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 4: Of course he is.

1276
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: He's he's I mean, his name on any NBA list

1277
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: this year.

1278
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 4: He was her.

1279
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 6: He had problems, he had drama, but when he did plan,

1280
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 6: he wanted to score, he scored.

1281
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: Who would you rather have right now in the moment,

1282
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant or Lebron James.

1283
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 9: I mean, Lebron James.

1284
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 2: How about how about Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis. Yeah,

1285
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: that one's easy. I'll take Kevin Durant really Okay, how

1286
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: about Kevin Durant or mb I right, take Kevin Durant

1287
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: to be honest.

1288
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 7: For MBA, I would really take Wow, did you miss

1289
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 7: all his bricks in this latest sis?

1290
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 4: He was a brick after brick?

1291
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 6: I agree, no, yeah, but that was that is a

1292
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 6: small sample of what I think Kevin Durant truly is.

1293
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 2: That's what I'm mark.

1294
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 4: You had a Durad.

1295
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: It's a great he's an all time great player. But

1296
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: you said Tom he said, and then Buck, He's like.

1297
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 9: He's not your top.

1298
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: Just barely scrape the service with the first A.

1299
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 6: We don't have enough time to discuss this with mister Hartman,

1300
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 6: because you'll bring up all the years of basketball we

1301
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: can do.

1302
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: I'll start breaking out George, Mike and Bob Goods. You

1303
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: don't stop me.

1304
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 6: There is no basketball today. The NBA playoffs will continue tomorrow,

1305
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 6: but the Stanley Cup Playoffs continue tonight one game. The

1306
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 6: Dallas Stars are going to try to close out the

1307
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: series on the road against the Kraken puck is set.

1308
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: To drop at seven pm Eastern time.

1309
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 6: In Major League Baseball, it really has been all Twins

1310
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 6: against the Cubs.

1311
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: It still is.

1312
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: They're playing in Minnesota.

1313
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 6: After a rain delay, Twins are up seven to one

1314
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 6: bottom of the seventh inning. The Braves and the Blue

1315
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 6: Jays were tied, not anymore.

1316
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays are up four to two.

1317
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 6: Top of the eighth inning, but Ronald Acunya, Junior of

1318
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 6: the Braves has stolen two bases in this game, ringing

1319
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 6: his total to seventeen for the season, which leads the

1320
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 6: National League. The Nationals are beating the Mets one zero

1321
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 6: top of the third inning, but they've been on rain

1322
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 6: delay for almost an hour now. The Rangers up on

1323
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 6: the ace three to zero bottom of the sixth inning,

1324
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 6: and the Red Sox are beating the Cardinals, who have

1325
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 6: not been good this year, three zero bottom of the

1326
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 6: six inning as well. And some fun NFL news, Jalen

1327
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 6: Hurts got his master's degree yesterday from Oklahoma in human relations.

1328
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 6: And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just tweeted a video

1329
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 6: their head coach, Todd Boles has officially completed his college

1330
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 6: degree as well. So yay back to you guys.

1331
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: All right.

1332
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned these stories, because if I have

1333
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: a recurring dream after all these years that usually ends

1334
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: up poorly, it's always me suddenly back in college. And

1335
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: it always is a dream where somehow I got this

1336
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: idea of going back to school, okay, but I didn't

1337
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: actually go to school okay, and then showing up on

1338
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: a campus that I am completely unfamiliar with, and then

1339
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: walking into a room to take a test in which

1340
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the subject is I had.

1341
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: I've literally had this dream many times. Really when I

1342
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: when I look at I got my degree? Did you

1343
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: get a degree in college? Do you have a college degree?

1344
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: You you have that diploma you graduated from school, congraduation.

1345
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: I still have my diploma. It's on a plaque. It's

1346
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: still like in a wrapper, and it's in a box,

1347
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, from UCLA. But every time I hear these

1348
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: stories about people going back to school and getting their

1349
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: degrees or finishing their degrees because maybe they you know,

1350
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: I left school a year early, because which is all.

1351
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: It's really commendable, but I can't imagine doing it myself.

1352
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: I just literally the idea of going back to school

1353
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: and it's it's a recurring that's so weird. And it's

1354
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: always it's the same situation where I end up back

1355
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: on campus and I'm usually at a campus I'm unfamiliar with,

1356
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: it's not U C.

1357
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: L A.

1358
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: And I'm wandering around trying to find a room and

1359
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: then walk into a room where not only am I

1360
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: not prepared for the final, I don't even know what

1361
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: the class is.

1362
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just.

1363
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: As weird because what was that time here in school?

1364
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Because I have recurring nightmares, like I graduated UCLA in

1365
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one, right, Like I.

1366
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 6: Have recurring work nightmares where I am here at this

1367
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 6: anchor desk and my internet goes out and then you

1368
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 6: cut to me and I'm like, I.

1369
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 2: Don't know, Oh I have a yeah, like that's what

1370
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: I have.

1371
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 4: But you know it's it's.

1372
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: Current by the way. You know who speaking of work dreams,

1373
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: you know what was in my dream last night? Mark Willard? Oh,

1374
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. I have a problem.

1375
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember your dreams?

1376
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 4: Are you?

1377
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: Are you people who remember dreams? I remember my dreams

1378
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: like vividly, like literally every single morning, and I was

1379
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: I walked in and there was Willard and he's doing

1380
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: the play by play of a baseball game and the

1381
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: score is thirty three to thirty two. And I commented

1382
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: to him, I said, I looked at the score, thought

1383
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: you were doing a football game, and you're telling me

1384
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: it was a baseball game. And I mean, how are

1385
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: you a big dream guy, Bucky?

1386
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: Some not? Not? Not Often do I remember what I'm

1387
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 3: dreaming about.

1388
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm in like I'm in full full.

1389
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: Break you break, your breaking down your dreams.

1390
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: And no, it's just they always I usually wake up

1391
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: where I'm like, all right, I'm tired of the stream.

1392
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: This stream is just lame.

1393
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: Noah, I don't remember my dreams a lot. Sometimes they

1394
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: have to be bad in order for me to remember them.

1395
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 6: I feel like significant, like significant, and it's usually not

1396
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 6: fun stuff.

1397
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: It's usually don't I don't have like nightmarar, nothing like that.

1398
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: No one, no one's harmed or anything.

1399
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: Used to be somehow playing in the final four. Don't

1400
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: ask me why, but playing basketball, playing basket on the

1401
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: final four, in the final four, like even having to

1402
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: be the inbounder or something that's a high pressure situation.

1403
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: How did you play in your dream?

1404
01:09:59,800 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: You?

1405
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: You know, I tended to wake up with the dream.

1406
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: If it tended to go bad, Yeah, going bad, but

1407
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: it was good. I stayed and I got a chance

1408
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 3: to yeah cut the nets down or whatever. So how

1409
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 3: are your dreams these days?

1410
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 10: I also have a lot of anxiety and dreams that

1411
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 10: involve going back to school, even so much as going

1412
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,919
Speaker 10: as far back to elementary school. Okay, it's Billie Madison.

1413
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 10: Are you like a bit a kid again? No, I'm

1414
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 10: an adult and I'm like, what am I doing here?

1415
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 10: Why do I have to go through fourth grade again?

1416
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 10: This is a waste of my time. And then I

1417
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 10: wake up and I'm like, oh, I went to college.

1418
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 10: Thank goodness is silver?

1419
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, I've had many times I remind myself I

1420
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: actually graduated, Like I did graduate.

1421
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 10: A nice feeling when you wake up and you're like, oh,

1422
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 10: I don't Yeah, this is all about dream. Yeah, I

1423
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 10: actually did get my degree. Like I'm in high school

1424
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 10: and I'm in my thirties. And then they're like, you

1425
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 10: need sixty more credits, and so I have to go

1426
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 10: hang out in this classroom and everyone's like, who's this

1427
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 10: old man here?

1428
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: But you don't have to do that now, guys, I

1429
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys haven't been paying attention, but

1430
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: you know, we're in a virtual world.

1431
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: I hate so a lot of it.

1432
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 3: You can do it virtually.

1433
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 10: It's not available on the dream I have to. It's

1434
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 10: not like these athletes are going actually to a class.

1435
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: You don't have to. You don't have to do those things.

1436
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: And like if you do want to go, like just

1437
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,440
Speaker 3: take the pe class lot already dancing.

1438
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: Matt Liner, ballroom dancing.

1439
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: Is we did a stage fighting at North Carolina stage fighting.

1440
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: Stage fighting.

1441
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: That's fine, I'll come in handle to fight. No, I

1442
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: look at it. I think it's great. They go back

1443
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: and get their degree, you know, and especially when you

1444
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: got tens of millions of dollars in your bank account,

1445
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: what exactly is drawing you to go back to school?

1446
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 2: And the fact that some of these guys do Okay,

1447
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: finish I am yeah, that's good. That's what dragged me

1448
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: across the finish line at u c l A. Is like,

1449
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 2: all right, I'm in this far along. I got to

1450
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: get to the finish line.

1451
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: You gotta finish it.

1452
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you. Mind see yeah, yeah, reminding us

1453
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: again about all these dreams out there. Okay, getting back

1454
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: to the NBA and we talked about the Warriors situation.

1455
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: The one thing I didn't address and that I wanted

1456
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 2: to get to though, was the legacy of the Warriors

1457
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: style of play. And I'm just wondering if, because we've

1458
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: seen a reversal in how Major League Baseball is played

1459
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: these days, mentioned Ronald Acuna, all of a sudden, it

1460
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: is stealing bases where the stolen bases Backbucket. I know

1461
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: you and I are both old school fans of the

1462
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: stolen base and what it brings to the game of baseball.

1463
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: But now that the Warriors run is seemingly over and

1464
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: on full display of what can happen when the team

1465
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 2: depends on a three and falls by the three, could

1466
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: we see an altering in the style of play that

1467
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: we've adopted over the last ten years. Well, you've got

1468
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: seven footers camped out at the three point line? Are

1469
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: we going to see an inside, outside game that, at

1470
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: least for me personally, maybe it's not everyone's cup of tea,

1471
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,440
Speaker 2: but for me esthetically, it's a better form of basketball.

1472
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: I enjoy walking watching eighties basketball. Nineties got maybe a

1473
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: little too physical. I'll even acknowledge that, But that brand

1474
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: of basketball, for me, was way more entertaining than what

1475
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: we see just wild chuck up threes all game that

1476
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: to me, is not an appealing style of basketball. Could

1477
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: the demise of the Warriors finally lead us to get

1478
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: the NBA in a different direction.

1479
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: Could as we begin to see more teams utilize different

1480
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: parts of the game, mid mid range layups, persistence in

1481
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: the paint, those things will kind of force people to

1482
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: do sevenx gamination. The thing that was always crazy about

1483
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 3: the way the Warriors played. They had two of the

1484
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 3: best shooters, two of the greatest shooters that we've seen

1485
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: in Klay Thompson and Steph Curry knocking it down. But

1486
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: if you don't have those shooters, why are you shooting

1487
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: so many threes? I mean, you have guys who are

1488
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 3: shooting threes, who are like high twenties, low thirties shooters.

1489
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: Why are you taking.

1490
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: This This Lakers team that now in the Western Conference

1491
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Finals early in the season, they're taking all these threes

1492
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: and bricking them. And Darbnham was like, well, you know

1493
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: we hit them in practice. Oh that's great. Yeah, I

1494
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: can hit a three point shot with my home hoop.

1495
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you.

1496
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: Don't have Steph Curry on this team. You don't have

1497
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson on this team. Stop taking threes. And honestly,

1498
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: if you look at this Laker team now, every time

1499
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 2: I see Anthony Davis shoot like a seventeen footer, it's

1500
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: like money in the bank. Take it, take it, take

1501
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: the mid range.

1502
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 3: And I understood the bonus point of the three point shot,

1503
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: but it went too far and so it bounces it out.

1504
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: You have teams taking fifty three point shots in a game. Crazy,

1505
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean fifty in a game. The problem is, though,

1506
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: when they're hitting, it's a significant margin that they're gonna

1507
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: beat you by.

1508
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: But when they're not hitting, like the Warriors last night,

1509
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: the game got out a handcuick.

1510
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah it did, I mean quick.

1511
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Clay again, I know them

1512
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 2: since he was fourteen years old. I mean that air

1513
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: They a chance to cut it from seven to four.

1514
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: He air balls it, and Steph tried to put up

1515
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: a follow up that got blocked, and then Reeves hits

1516
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: the half court shots, so instead of being down four,

1517
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: they're down ten. Game over.

1518
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 3: That was huge. It was a huge play because they

1519
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: were coming. They worked their claw their way back into

1520
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 3: the game that double digit league one and a half

1521
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: with significance.

1522
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, divis Angel. He was the guy, the only guy

1523
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: hitting any shots on the other side. All right, coming

1524
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: up on the other side, we got more NBA news.

1525
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: The Jets are being highlighted as one of the teams

1526
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: to watch early in the NFL schedule. What are we

1527
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: gonna see? What are we gonna see from the Jets?

1528
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: Is thereon Rogers really gonna lead them back into prominence?

1529
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 2: Are they a team you need to see? Want to see?

1530
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Or break it down with Bucky. This is Fox Sports Saturday,

1531
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming alive

1532
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: from the Tyraq dot Com studios. By the way, coming

1533
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: up in the next hour, Adam Kaplan are Fox Sports rader?

1534
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 2: NFL Insider is gonna join us. I'm gonna throw something

1535
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 2: out there, but right now. I rarely promote my Twitter

1536
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: account at Cannon Hartman, say long Twitter handle at Cannon Hartman,

1537
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: very long, very long. And I don't tweet a lot, ok,

1538
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: I haven't, So I actually have followers. I have a

1539
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 2: lot of followers.

1540
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 3: We just want to follow you, don't You don't shed

1541
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 3: light into your world?

1542
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: Well, I put it this way. I've been on Twitter

1543
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: for what twelve years, you know, pretty much since it started,

1544
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: and at the top it says how many tweets or

1545
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: retweets you've had over the duration of your account. My

1546
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 2: number is at five hundred and two in twelve years.

1547
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: Special moments yeespecially.

1548
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: Usually though, I when I do put out a tweet,

1549
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: it gets a lot of likes, so some you know,

1550
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, less is more. I'm into that and the

1551
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: people they just tweet all day long and get like

1552
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: five likes and that kind of stuff. But I do

1553
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: want to get because in the next hour, I want

1554
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 2: to find out before we get into it, if we

1555
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: get into it at all. Because this is how misinformed

1556
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 2: I was a week ago. Last week, I was actually

1557
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: promoting that the XFL Championship Game was last week, when

1558
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: in reality it was still a week away, and nobody

1559
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: called me out on it. Nobody called me out on it. Nobody.

1560
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we're obviously tonight. We totally missed it the

1561
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: big event. Nobody called me out on it because apparently

1562
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: no one's paying attention. Right, So this XFL Championship Game

1563
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: is tonight. That is one hundred percent official I want

1564
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: to know, and you can send me a tweet at

1565
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 2: Cannon Hartman if there's a single person listening out there

1566
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: that forget even caring about the XFL has literally seen

1567
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: one second of XFL football this season. Because we're now

1568
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: at the championship game. By the way, one of the

1569
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: two teams has a losing record. That's great, right, you

1570
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: get to the championship game. They had a ten game season,

1571
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: they had a four and sixteen make it to the

1572
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: championship game. If we can find evidence that there is

1573
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: literally any interest at all in the XFL any then

1574
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: we'll mention some okay, but that I need to find

1575
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: that out. So you know, you just say yes absolutely,

1576
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, break it down or maybe you got

1577
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: some insight you could share with us on this championship

1578
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: game at Cannon Hartman.

1579
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: All right, Sore you go there, all right.

1580
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the schedule here, Bucky, the Jets

1581
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: have five prime time games. Not only do they have

1582
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: five prime time games, they get the opening Monday night

1583
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: football game against the Bills at home m big time. Now,

1584
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: that's that's quite a run for a team that has

1585
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: the longest streak without making the playoffs. Of any current

1586
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: NFL team by five years. So this is all based

1587
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: on the you know, the presence of one person, obviously,

1588
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. All right, so now you've had enough time

1589
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: to digest the arrival of Aaron Rodgers. You know their

1590
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: roster extremely well, you saw what they did in the draft.

1591
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: But they're going to be highlighted at least this season

1592
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: as a team to watch in prime time and by

1593
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: the way, three of their five prime time games, their

1594
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: first three games are all at home, so that's usually

1595
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: reserved for the teams that have earned that based on

1596
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: wins in previous seasons. This is based solely on the

1597
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: presence of Aaron Rodgers. So now that you've had a

1598
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: little time to digest what they've done, how good are

1599
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: the Jets going to be this season?

1600
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: The potentially be one of the top teams. The thing

1601
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: that we have to look at is how quickly can

1602
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: the young guys grow up and adapt to Aaron Rodgers

1603
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 3: be In the quarterback Garrett Wilson, you have Eric Allen

1604
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: Lazard who you brought over. How quick candidate? But then

1605
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: really the test is how good is Robert solid as

1606
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 3: a head coach and manager? And he managed a game

1607
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: and put the team in a position and win games.

1608
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: We ultimately will see how good he is. Less about

1609
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, more of our rub us out.

1610
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: So who do you like in that opening Monday night

1611
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: matchup Jets home against the Bills.

1612
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,879
Speaker 3: Oh? I like the Bulls in that one. Yeah.

1613
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: So if the Bills annihilate them.

1614
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think it'd be close. But I think

1615
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: I like the Bills.

1616
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna find out if there are any

1617
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: XFL fans and Adam Kaplan joining us. This is Fox

1618
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,520
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday.

1619
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,760
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1620
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Speaker 2: An unexpected turn here on Fox Sports Saturday that we

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to notify you right now. We

1630
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: are less than two hours away of kickoff of the

1631
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: XFL Championship game between the Arlington Renegades and the DC Defenders.

1632
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: And the reason I am saying this at all is

1633
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: I put it out there on my Twitter account, which

1634
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: I rarely call attention to at Canon Hartman, to see

1635
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 2: if there's any interest at all in this XFL Championship game.

1636
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: And I'm getting flooded with tweets right now. I am

1637
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: in stun disbelief. Just a couple of samplings. Here's one

1638
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 2: I've seen about ten minutes of the XFL. Here's I've

1639
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: watched several games, actually really like it. How about this

1640
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: heading to the game right now at the al of Dome, Alamodome.

1641
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: I haven't watched a second, but I am honestly curious.

1642
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Didn't know it was even I love

1643
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: some of these right now, didn't even know there was

1644
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: an XFL zero points, zero interest, but we got others

1645
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 2: like Bernie. Bernie came out, he said Steve. The XFL's

1646
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: replay process is novel, completely transparent. Viewers get to see

1647
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: the angles and overhear the internal conversations between the officials,

1648
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: Blendino and the booth with the NFL involvement to something

1649
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: like that, talking point that we could talk about. Here's Pam.

1650
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: She says, Yes, I watch XFL and know the championship

1651
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: is tonight. Note I am a DC Defenders fan. There's

1652
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: another one. I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of

1653
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: seconds of an XFL game when I was slipping through

1654
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: the channels. All right, So way more response than I

1655
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: could have anticipated as far as this XFL championship game.

1656
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 2: And I guess the bigger question is with the XFL

1657
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: and the USFL, which obviously just started their season, where

1658
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: is their place right now? Bucky, as someone that makes

1659
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: a living working around the National Football League as every

1660
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: single level and management media as a player, what place,

1661
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: if and he does the XFL and the USFL have

1662
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: in terms of professional football in this country.

1663
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 3: It's a solid place. I think people understand what it

1664
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: is from a league standpoint. National Football League. It's viewed

1665
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: as a developmental league. It's another league that gives you

1666
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: an opportunity to see young players to be players that

1667
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: are just on the outskirts of the National Football League

1668
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 3: play and through watching them play, you see them get better.

1669
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: You see them take those reps and sharpen their skills

1670
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 3: and give themselves an opportunity to play potentially in the

1671
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: National Football League. So it's a great league. Now when

1672
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: it comes to can it compete head ahead with the NFL, No,

1673
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be viewed as that, but it's a nice alternative.

1674
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: Whereas baseball has minor leagues to develop their players that

1675
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 3: aren't quite ready for the big leagues, the National Football

1676
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 3: League doesn't have that. The only thing they have are

1677
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 3: what the colleges produced. So this is a chance for

1678
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 3: guys to play professional football, to get paid, and to

1679
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 3: develop skills that might help them have an opportunity to

1680
01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: play in the league.

1681
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: All Right, Twitter accounts a very small sampling, but I mean,

1682
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: right now, I'm getting a run on a lot of

1683
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: people that say, I mean, let's here's another one. It's

1684
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: an entertaining league. The four and sixteen got significantly better

1685
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,520
Speaker 2: after trading for a new qb XFL is better officiating,

1686
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: believe it or not, which is also cool. The one

1687
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 2: thing about these leagues, and our buddy Rich Ornberger was

1688
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: involved in that Alliance of American Football, which was ill fate.

1689
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: It didn't even survive its first season, but it is

1690
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 2: a great testing ground to do other things that eventually

1691
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 2: could be adopted in the National Football League. I do

1692
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: like that, but we also know that run of the

1693
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: reasons that so many of these leagues fail is just

1694
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the quality of the play. I mean, when you go

1695
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: from the super Bowl to the XFL, you need a

1696
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: side adjustment, right. I mean, we saw this incredible Super

1697
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 2: Bowl matchup between the Eagles and the Chiefs, and a

1698
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: week later, all of a sudden, you're kicking off a

1699
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: season in the XFL and you're like, Okay, what am

1700
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: I watching here? But and again, this is a very

1701
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: small sample size, but at least those that are responding

1702
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: right now are giving us a pretty positive input. We're

1703
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: all because I know, obviously they're football fans, and I

1704
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: get it. There are NFL fans out there that don't

1705
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 2: give a crap about the NBA or Major League Baseball

1706
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: or anything other than football. I get it. We do

1707
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: cover all that, and I know we're miss with our

1708
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: NHL coverage, and I apologize for that, But you know,

1709
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: I just wonder, because we've seen so many of these

1710
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: leagues come and go over the years, whether we're at

1711
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: a point now where one or both these leagues right

1712
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 2: now can actually survive.

1713
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean both of them can survive. I think

1714
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 3: one thing that we'll talk about with the XFL and

1715
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: the USFL the innovations that will be stolen from those

1716
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: leagues and implemented into the National Football League. So years

1717
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 3: ago when the XFL came, like the investment man version,

1718
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 3: whether they used to take all off and run for

1719
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: the ball in the middle of the field, think about

1720
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 3: some of the innovations that we stole from that. Remember,

1721
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: prior to that, we didn't have the cameras on the field,

1722
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: like the overhand camera that we see from the back.

1723
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: We didn't see the people run on and off the

1724
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: field behind the play. Those things are new innovations when

1725
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 3: it comes to gameplay. Look, they're doing a creative thing

1726
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: where they have three options for your extra point from

1727
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 3: the two yard line. I think is one point to five,

1728
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 3: is two to ten, is three. That is cool. What

1729
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 3: they're doing with the kickoffs. I know the National Football

1730
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: League has looked at some of that stuff, the on

1731
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 3: side kick or the fourth and fifteen play that they're doing.

1732
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 3: So there's some cool things that might be sole and

1733
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 3: so it's a developmental league, but it's also a great

1734
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 3: league not only developing new innovations and players. But how

1735
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: about some of these coaches that are having an opportunity

1736
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: to coach, Like we've seen an all star roster with

1737
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Rob Woodson and Terrence it's Arel buck Lee and Anthony

1738
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: Beck my guy, Reggie Barlow, who's the head of the

1739
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 3: DC Defenders. Those guys are coaching, so they have an

1740
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: opportunity to lead teams where they weren't given those opportunities elsewhere.

1741
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 2: Well, the coach of the Arlington Renegades is certainly Bob Stoops,

1742
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, the College Football Hall of Fame coach at Oklahoma.

1743
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: By the way, they got into the championship game of

1744
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: the four and six rhetick, there's eight teams in the

1745
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: XFL top two teams in each division played each other

1746
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: and they beat the one seed Houston to get into

1747
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 2: this championship game. DC Defenders obviously are big favorites tonight

1748
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: in this championship game. But yeah, a guy like Bob Stoops,

1749
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 2: who's you know again, he's already in the College Football

1750
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame after his amazing run at Oklahoma. It

1751
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: would just seem curious of why he's there and whether

1752
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: or not what he's doing with the Arlington Renegades. Would

1753
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: catch the eye of any NFL organization, saying, wait, his predecessor,

1754
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: one of his predecessors, Barry Switzer, who was long removed

1755
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: from coaching, when he got hired by his good buddy

1756
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. He led the Cowboys to a Super Bowl championship.

1757
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: So now I like the opportunity. My question is, though

1758
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of this XFL or USFL

1759
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: you're watching. When you talk about the idea that it's

1760
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: sort of a free scouting ground for are they are

1761
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: they sending NFL scouts to these games? Are they actually

1762
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 2: looking at these players? I mean, what level of talent

1763
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: is there? I mean, how many of these players will

1764
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: even get a sniff of the NFL in the future.

1765
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: Some of these guys get sniffed. So every NFL team

1766
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: has someone assigned to pay attention to the XFL. You

1767
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 3: do that, You do that with the Canadian Football League,

1768
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: the XFIL, the USFL, any of the alternate leagues you.

1769
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: Will for years, they had the European Football Hold on

1770
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: a second, we got Chris here, by the way, Chris,

1771
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: who's taken over for Io with Sam on the board,

1772
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: is our resident XFL expert. Would you say that, Chris,

1773
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: I keep up with it. I'm a football fan.

1774
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I cover the Lions, so this

1775
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 8: is kind of, yeah, my vacation away from it. But

1776
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 8: I do know some guys in the XFL has already

1777
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 8: gotten tryouts, they said the Lions. One of the Lions,

1778
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 8: I think they gave a tryout and he was in

1779
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 8: rookie minie camp.

1780
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: I think he was a wide receiver.

1781
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 8: I'm trying to remember off the top of my head

1782
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 8: right now, but I believe he played for like San

1783
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 8: Antonio or someone. So like, these these leagues are very

1784
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 8: good for post post development. I think we had it

1785
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 8: was a Dearanis Johnson. I think was an XFL or

1786
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 8: USFL product as well. Like it happens, Oh yeah, I mean.

1787
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Look at that. These these leagues do produce players that

1788
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: eventually confine their way to the National Football League. They're

1789
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: not making a lot of money, and that was the

1790
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: one thing I was thinking about, is you if you're

1791
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: a veteran and you've been on the outskirts and you're

1792
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: getting paid very little, and by the way, the punishment

1793
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: that you physically take in the XFL is the same

1794
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: as the NFL. Is it worth it. I mean, could

1795
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 2: you ever see yourself if your NFL career has come

1796
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: and gone to latch onto a professional league where you're

1797
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: being paid very very very little money for the same

1798
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: level of punishment that you put your body through. I mean,

1799
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 2: you got to really love the game, bucket.

1800
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do that, you have to love the game.

1801
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: I will say, at the end of my last year

1802
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 3: with the Raiders, the phone wasn't ringing, I got a

1803
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: phone call from the Saskatchewan rough Riders to go work out,

1804
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 3: and I considered going up there. Now sight unseen, I

1805
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 3: didn't know much about the CFL. I know a lot

1806
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 3: more about it now having done some stuff with the

1807
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 3: Hamlin and tie your cats. But it's one of those

1808
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 3: situations where it's not for the money you do it

1809
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 3: that one those are really for the love of the

1810
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 3: game opportunities like you're doing it for that like because

1811
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 3: you're not getting rich off of the money that you make.

1812
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: You just want to continue to play. You want to

1813
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: give yourself another opportunity to play a game that you

1814
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 3: deeply enjoy. Think about Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon still out

1815
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 3: there playing running around, making plays, doing what he's been

1816
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 3: able to do. And so for these guys, some of them, look,

1817
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 3: it's kind of like being able to write the final

1818
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 3: chapters in your football journey. And some guys would rather

1819
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 3: just continue to play the game until they can't play

1820
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 3: it anymore, rather than just walk away from the NFL

1821
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, that was it, I'm done.

1822
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 2: That was aj.

1823
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 8: Mccerren's whole thing too, is like he could have been

1824
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 8: kept being a QB two in the NFL, but he

1825
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 8: wanted to play, start and play because he had kids.

1826
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 8: He wanted them to see him play, and that's why

1827
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 8: he chose to play with the BattleHawks.

1828
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I salute XFL fans out there. Renegade's defenders

1829
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: less than two hours away a kickoff at the Alamodome

1830
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 2: to determine XFL champion for this season. On the other side,

1831
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: we'll go back to that other league, the NFL, and

1832
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: our NFL insider Adam Kaplan will join us. Coming up next,

1833
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 2: Steve Harman, Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday. We're

1834
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 2: coming alive from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. All right,

1835
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: we're coming down from our XFL high reverting back to

1836
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: the National Football League. Join us, right now he is

1837
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: the man. He's the man that carries the shield. He

1838
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: is our Fox Sports NFL insider. Adam Kaplam is joining

1839
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 2: us right now. Adam, how much are you anticipating this

1840
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: XFL showdown between the Renegades and the Defenders, which is

1841
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 2: going to kick off in less than an hour and

1842
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 2: forty minutes.

1843
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 11: Well, you know, I'm so glad you remind me, Steve,

1844
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 11: I'll turn it in.

1845
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, all right, So what is your

1846
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 2: takeaway when the NFL announces it's schedule? What are you

1847
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: looking for? As some of the follows, this league is

1848
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: invested in your life into this league. What significance on

1849
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 2: the day in which they announced the NFL schedule?

1850
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I know from talking to coaches the first

1851
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 11: thing look is when's the bye week? Because you really

1852
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 11: don't want to have it very early. You don't want

1853
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 11: to have it very late. So there's some of the

1854
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 11: things I look for. I look for scheduled advantages and

1855
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 11: scheduled disadvantages. Like the scheduled disadvantages. The Giants have seven

1856
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 11: of the first eleven games away away, folks, including two

1857
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 11: of the first three. Then weeks ninth through eleven, that

1858
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 11: they have three games away. It's just understand the Giant

1859
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 11: schedule to be honest with it, because you know you can,

1860
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 11: you're allowed. Every team turns in things they want to

1861
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 11: have to avoid and things that they'll accept and so forth.

1862
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 4: Every year they do.

1863
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 11: That and usually the NFL, the the schedule makers try

1864
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 11: to commodate the best that they can.

1865
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: It just boggles my mind.

1866
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 11: They have the schedules just ridiculous in terms of continuity.

1867
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 4: And you know, a team that over achieved.

1868
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 11: Last year, like the Giants, you want to try to

1869
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 11: You just want to try to take advantage of what

1870
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 11: you can. And I'm very surprised that they have a

1871
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 11: schedule like that.

1872
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 3: They do. Adam any surprise about the Detroit Lions being

1873
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 3: included in the marquee or the first Prome time matchup

1874
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 3: against Kancay the Chiefs.

1875
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 11: All right, So Bucky I listened to I was on

1876
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 11: the conference call with with the schedule makers, Mike North

1877
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 11: and a couple other people from the NFL office who

1878
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 11: put it together. An Ee, Bos's the other guy. And

1879
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 11: hear them talk about it, Bucky, you knew was coming

1880
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 11: up because you know historically the NFL will not put

1881
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 11: them on prime time time and just to look at it,

1882
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 11: I mean you could push me over with a feather.

1883
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 11: When when it got out that it was when the

1884
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 11: Chiefs put it out there that they were going to

1885
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 11: host the Lions of the first game the season, a

1886
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 11: lot of people thought it would be the Eagles. Well, no,

1887
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 11: it's it's going to be it's going to be the Lions.

1888
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 11: And that tells you a lot. Look, I know, the

1889
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 11: league was very happy with hard Docks, with the Lions

1890
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 11: and Dan Campbell, and they were they really should have

1891
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 11: gotten the playoff. Seahawks should not have gotten the playoff.

1892
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 11: Seahawks got the benefit some really bad calls and then

1893
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 11: that last game against the Rams, the Lions should have

1894
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 11: gotten in. But nevertheless, the league really feels good about

1895
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 11: the Lions. I mean again, they open up the first

1896
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 11: game of the season at Kansas City. It's a Thursday

1897
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 11: night game. They play a Green Bay on Monday night.

1898
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 11: They play the Raiders on Monday night. They also have

1899
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 11: the Saturday game, which is an eight to fifteen game

1900
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 11: in week seventeen. And also another nugget for you with

1901
01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 11: the flex scheduling, so the most the old was you

1902
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 11: kindly get five prime time games at most. Then last

1903
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 11: year they switched it to six. You could actually get

1904
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 11: seven if you're flexed. So they're not. The league is

1905
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 11: not putting it out that they can't get it. They're

1906
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 11: just basically saying, hey, if you've got six and we

1907
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 11: have a reason, the networks want to take one of

1908
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 11: your games and put it at night, they can do.

1909
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 2: That, all right. So a team that has the longest

1910
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: current streak of not being in the postseason got five

1911
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 2: primetime games doesn't make a lot of sense. Of course,

1912
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 2: the arrival of Aaron Rodgers changed all that for the

1913
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 2: New York Jets. They even get the first Monday night

1914
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: game at home, although it's against the Buffalo Bills. What

1915
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 2: is your anticipation I asked this of Bucky earlier, But

1916
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: what is your anticipation of this upcoming season for the Jets?

1917
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's Look, they now have a quarterback. They had

1918
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 11: an excellent defense last season. The problems the Quarterbacksac Wilson

1919
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 11: was clearly not ready to play. He took a big

1920
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 11: step back, and he needs to take one now because

1921
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 11: the thing he just has to learn and grow up

1922
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 11: a little bit and mature as quarterback and getting Rogers

1923
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 11: in there. This was their number one priority for the season.

1924
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 11: That's why they didn't look. They talked to Derek Carr.

1925
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 11: He knew what the deal was. He knew they wanted

1926
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers. Wasn't a secret, and they got Rogers. My

1927
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 11: expectations is they should be a playoff team.

1928
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 4: Now.

1929
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 11: I think they'll push the Bills. The Bill still would

1930
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 11: be the favorite. The Bills obviously did not go as

1931
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 11: far as they expected last season, running into a Buzzsall

1932
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 11: and Patrick Mahomes. You know, it's always going to be

1933
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 11: a challenge. But I think in the end for the Bills,

1934
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 11: they just have to take the next step. But the

1935
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 11: Jets here with their schedule, and by the way, look

1936
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 11: who the Jets have to play, the Bills, as you mentioned,

1937
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 11: at Dallas, home against New England, and then home against

1938
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 11: the Chiefs. So that's not an easy four games.

1939
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 3: Adam, Just based on your conversations with hey coaches and

1940
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: general managers around the league, is there a preference to

1941
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 3: play young quarterbacks immediately Would they rather let them sit

1942
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 3: for a few weeks before they kind of throw them

1943
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: in their rookie season.

1944
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 11: Oh, you're talking about the teams that have these quarterbacks yeah,

1945
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 11: I think it's just kind of more often than not

1946
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 11: they liked him to sit a little bit, but it

1947
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 11: just depends on their learning. Look, you remember when Russell Wilson.

1948
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 11: I remember talking to the Seahawks when they had Matt Flynn,

1949
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 11: and the thought process was, again, he was a third

1950
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 11: round pick. He was so good, it was so obvious.

1951
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 11: There was no reason not to play him like that

1952
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 11: was the way that they saw it. Like with with

1953
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 11: Richardson Gonna, they know kind of what the deal is

1954
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 11: with him. They know he's the only start of one year.

1955
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 11: He needs time. But they're also these teams will tell

1956
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 11: you if they see something that is not what they expect,

1957
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 11: and it's very positive, they just roll with it. But

1958
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 11: they don't want to rush a guy. I could tell

1959
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 11: you years ago, the thoughts presses was they're just not gonna.

1960
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 4: Teams are just not going to push the quarterback.

1961
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 11: But there's a little bit more pressure Bucky, to be

1962
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 11: honest with you, that's you hear it. They don't want

1963
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 11: to sit the kids now unless they really feel like

1964
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 11: they need to.

1965
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 4: That's the way I'd probably sum it.

1966
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 2: Up, Adam. I know, right after Seattle traded Russell Wilson

1967
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 2: a year ago March to Denver. I that day, that

1968
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 2: day predicted Seattle would go nine to eight and Demo

1969
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: go five and twelve. It was unbelievable that I was

1970
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: that accurate. Actually, not only did I not make that prediction,

1971
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 2: nobody made that prediction. So when we look at NFL

1972
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: schedules trying to say, well, who got a really favorable

1973
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 2: schedule or unfavorable schedule, this is completely unknown. It's very

1974
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 2: similar to the draft. Had he grade it until we

1975
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: actually see how the plays out. Because every year, three

1976
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: or four or five teams underperform wildly from what we

1977
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 2: predict in the preseason, and then four or five teams

1978
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: exceed expectations. So if there's a team right now that

1979
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: you're a little bit m on the bubble with of

1980
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 2: like what you're going to see from them in twenty

1981
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 2: twenty three, which team would that be?

1982
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 4: Probably the Chargers. Again, you just don't know from year

1983
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 4: to year.

1984
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 11: I mean they got in, they had a huge lead

1985
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 11: against Jacksonville and then they they blew it. That's a

1986
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 11: team that it just you shake your head, just the disappointment.

1987
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 11: They're always talented and something seems to happen that's a team.

1988
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 11: And then also, you know, here's another thing with brock Party.

1989
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 11: I know the Niners talking to them, they're pretty confident

1990
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 11: that brock Party is gonna be ready for the season.

1991
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 11: But it's not so much that he was the last

1992
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 11: pick in the draft last year. And there's a word,

1993
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 11: you know, with with with scouts and scouting people. The

1994
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 11: real Rock Party is going to come. He's going to

1995
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 11: come to the surface. Like you're asking this guy to

1996
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 11: start a half a season. Okay, that was a great story,

1997
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 11: but let's see it. Let's see him do it for

1998
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 11: a full season. That probably to me when we do

1999
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 11: storylines for training camp, that is my top one of

2000
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 11: my top five.

2001
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 4: Can brock Party repeat his success over a full.

2002
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Is he going to be Nick Foles repeated? Yeah, yeah,

2003
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean Nick twenty seven touchdowns, two picks, led the

2004
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 2: NFL and passer rating looks like the steal of the

2005
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 2: lifetime for the Eagles, and then all of a sudden

2006
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 2: he got exposed.

2007
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, Nick was a third round pick. But what happened

2008
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 11: there was there was a gimmick offense with Chip Kelly

2009
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 11: and the league figured out amount we're here. Perty He's

2010
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 11: very accurate and the one thing I'll say which is

2011
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 11: very positive. He's a great leader. They being talking to people,

2012
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 11: have been around him. You just kind of know it.

2013
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 11: But there is that feeling that you go through the

2014
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 11: schedule does that on a very good arm. You can

2015
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 11: only ask this guy to do so much and that's

2016
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 11: could be as downfall. So we'll keep an eye on that,

2017
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 11: but that would be one of them. And then obviously

2018
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 11: Tampa Bay they got in last year with an eight

2019
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 11: nine record without Tom Brady. That quarterback situation to me,

2020
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 11: is very much up in the air. It doesn't look good.

2021
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 11: I don't see any way that they win that division.

2022
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders officially do the sale, Josh Harris takes

2023
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 3: over as the owner. What does that mean for Ron River?

2024
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 3: What do you think it means for this franchise going forward?

2025
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, and by the way, it has to be approved

2026
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 11: by the league and we'll know more within two weeks

2027
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 11: when they got the spring meeting in Minneapolis.

2028
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 4: But it's going to get passed.

2029
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 11: There's no question that the league wants the egelsenid are

2030
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 11: out that Josh Harris is a a good owner, talking

2031
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 11: to people work for him, whether it's with Philly, the

2032
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: the hockey team, the Devils, and now with Washington Bucket.

2033
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 11: Answer your question, typically, what happens is there's there's a

2034
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 11: this it'll be one year grace period where Josh Harris

2035
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 11: and his group will evaluate Rivera and the coaches and Ron.

2036
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 11: By the way, it's personnel control, and they'll see what happens.

2037
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 11: And Josh Harris is a guy from that area. This

2038
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 11: is this is all of his ownership and everything that

2039
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 11: he has. This one's really important him because he grew

2040
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 11: up as a Washington fan. And that's that's the thing

2041
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 11: is with Ron. Ron has had enough time to get

2042
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,799
Speaker 11: this thing turned around, and he's not gotten right at quarterback.

2043
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 4: And Josh Josh Harris is a sportsman.

2044
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 11: He loves sports, and he understands he grew up as

2045
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 11: a Washington fan. They haven't had They have not gotten

2046
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 11: the quarterback right in a long time.

2047
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: One other aspect in this schedule making in the NFL

2048
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: now that they're no longer absolutely tied to one network

2049
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 2: carrying in the NFC or AFC is basically where we

2050
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 2: have a free agency of the NFL schedule. I mean,

2051
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 2: where are we going with this? I mean we talk

2052
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 2: about flexing out games in prime time and everything else.

2053
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 2: But are we going eventually to a full scale free

2054
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:12,799
Speaker 2: agency where like marquee games go to the highest bidder.

2055
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 2: How's this going to work down the road?

2056
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 4: All right, So here's what the NFL said.

2057
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 11: I was on the call this week, so it is

2058
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 11: true what you said, but there are two caveats each

2059
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 11: because they're still yes, the games are free agents, but

2060
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 11: they're two things here, Like the CBS could still protect

2061
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 11: one game a week.

2062
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 4: Fox can protect one game a week.

2063
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 11: And also half of the NFC games will go to Fox,

2064
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 11: half the other half will go to CBS.

2065
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 4: So it's not like all.

2066
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 11: It's not like all will go to one and not

2067
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 11: the others. There's gonna they said, around a fifty to

2068
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 11: fifty split. But it's definitely weird because growing up as

2069
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 11: we did, Steve, you and I are probably a little

2070
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 11: bit older than Bucky. I remember when all the NBC

2071
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 11: games were on We're AFC. In fact, we would get

2072
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 11: the Raider game as a late here in phillyate at

2073
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 11: for Eastern and that was like really cool. And CBS

2074
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 11: had the NFC. Remember the old old NFL Today show

2075
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 11: with mus Burger and Phillis George and Irv Cross and

2076
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 11: Jimmy the Greek and that's what I grew up on

2077
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 11: and now it's a total it's just really weird the

2078
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 11: way they're doing it now. I did not hear why

2079
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 11: they're doing it. That's that's the only thing is like

2080
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 11: they didn't really discuss that. They said, hey, this is

2081
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 11: what we're doing. And yes, in a way that they're

2082
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 11: free agency with this, but the thing that they really

2083
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 11: they also want before we get out of the schedule

2084
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 11: stuff and the reason why flex scheduling has done so well.

2085
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 11: They want the best games late in the season and

2086
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 11: for everyone to see them in primetime. So that's why

2087
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 11: they do it.

2088
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 3: We have like a week away before everyone starts their OTAs.

2089
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 3: What's the biggest storyline headed into OTA's that we need

2090
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on.

2091
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 11: Well, obviously the quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson, how well he does

2092
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 11: because Gardner Minchew I'm told sign there because he thought

2093
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 11: that there was a possible ability that he'd plays some

2094
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 11: this year and he was thinking that Richardson might go

2095
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,879
Speaker 11: there and Minshew, as I understand it, has some incentives

2096
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 11: in his contract for playing. So that just these quarterbacks

2097
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 11: and also with the Todd Monkin running the offense now,

2098
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 11: which is going to be completely different from Greg Romans,

2099
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 11: and Lamar Jackson is in there getting him in. I

2100
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 11: know they wanted him in if possible, to be in

2101
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 11: their off season program to work on this new offense.

2102
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 11: He's got to learn the terminology and get used to

2103
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 11: his new teammates. I think that's also big. I don't

2104
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 11: think there's any question about it. The Baltimore situation and

2105
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 11: getting Lamar got his deal, but he's got to get

2106
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 11: back to where he was. And not only that, he's

2107
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 11: got to become a better pastor because we've seen him.

2108
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 11: We've seen him when he looks like an elite passer

2109
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 11: they don't live. But again, with Greg Roman they weren't

2110
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 11: going to throw the ball out. They were running it great.

2111
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 11: That to me, that changed in philosophy. Not that they're

2112
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 11: not going to run a lot, They'll run a plenty,

2113
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 11: but Todd Monkin's known for being a passing game guy,

2114
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 11: so I'm really interested see what happens there.

2115
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 2: By the way, you'll love this. I remember a conversation

2116
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: the late great Chip four and I had back at

2117
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl nineteen ninety three, the first one where

2118
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys blew out the Bills with Dick eversol when

2119
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 2: NBC dumped the NFL, saying it was the best decision

2120
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 2: he ever made.

2121
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 4: Well, they got back.

2122
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: They did get it back in a big way, no

2123
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: question about it. Yeah, he was trying to explain to

2124
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: us why the NFL was a loser. But that's okay, hey,

2125
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 2: but he was a big fan of that XFL. All right,

2126
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 2: great stuff is always Adam, will check in with you

2127
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 2: next week, Thanks so much. That's Adam Kaplan or Fox

2128
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio NFL Insider. Now, let's find out what is

2129
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: trending as monthsy balons months Ablanas.

2130
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 6: You know, I hate when I have to tell a

2131
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 6: story that involves ken Lee Jensen dropping the ball.

2132
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 3: What happened?

2133
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 6: So the Red Sox were beating the Cardinals, who have

2134
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 6: not been good this season, going into the ninth inning

2135
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 6: by two runs. The score Red Sox three Cardinals one.

2136
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 6: Chris Sale pitched eight innings, only gave up one run,

2137
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 6: struck out nine and then ken Lee Jensen had the

2138
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 6: bases loaded, they hit the ball, throwing error. Now the

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01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 6: Cardinals are beating the Red Sox four to three. Bottom

2140
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 6: of the ninth inning, The Red Sox have a man

2141
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 6: on first base, but they're down to their final out

2142
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 6: after Kenley Jensen just had his four hundredth career save,

2143
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 6: like a couple.

2144
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 4: Of days ago.

2145
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 2: Kenley Jensen, like Dodger fans, hate with the guys.

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01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 4: They really did.

2147
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 6: It was hard, it hate.

2148
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 2: It really had some really good moments and then some,

2149
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 2: unfortunately on the biggest stage, some really some bad ones.

2150
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and so unfortunately, yes against the Cardinals have

2151
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 6: not done so hot.

2152
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 2: But how about this.

2153
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 6: Imagine it's your birthday, your first at bat, you're leading off,

2154
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 6: and you hit a home run.

2155
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: Happy birthday too.

2156
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 6: I want to say his last name is Mickey Mnayak

2157
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 6: of the Angels.

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01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Yeah, left fielder.

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01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 6: You go, dude, your first bad lead off home run.

2160
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 2: It's your birthday.

2161
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 6: And the Yangels are beating the Guardians in Cleveland one zero,

2162
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 6: bottom of the second inning Nationals and the Mets are

2163
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 6: still on a rain delay. I was complaining to Jonas

2164
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 6: earlier today with raindelays in baseball, Just cancel the game.

2165
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 6: Stop making people wait all this time. You've been on

2166
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 6: a rain delay for like two hours and it's the

2167
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 6: third inning. Let it go. Let people go. But the

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01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 6: Nationals are beating the Mets. If this comes back top

2169
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 6: of the third inning, one zero. Earlier, guy, earlier, today,

2170
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 6: the Yankees were losing six zero, But then you know,

2171
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 6: Aaron Judge happened. He hit two homers and the Yankees

2172
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 6: ended up beating the Rays with the comeback win at

2173
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 6: home nine to eight. Reds over the Marlins six to

2174
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 6: five was the final score. Jake Frayley has been great

2175
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 6: for the Reds. A three run homer after hitting back

2176
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 6: to back homers. Yesterday, the Mariner shut out the Twins

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01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 6: five zero was the final score.

2178
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

2179
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,799
Speaker 6: The Mariner shut out the Tigers five zero. In Detroit,

2180
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 6: the Twins all over the Cubs eleven to one was

2181
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 6: the final score. Blue Jays beat the Braves five to two.

2182
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 6: Rangers shut out the A's five zero in front of

2183
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 6: the fourteen people that you said were at the game.

2184
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 6: And officially the Cardinals have beat the Red Sox four

2185
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 6: to three. And yeah, no baseball or excuse me, no

2186
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 6: basketball playoffs today, but the Stanley Cup playoffs are about

2187
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 6: to begin in less than thirty minutes. The Dallas Stars

2188
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 6: will try to close out the series on the road

2189
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 6: against the Kraken. The puck is set to drop at

2190
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 6: seven pm Eastern Time. It's been fun fellas.

2191
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 2: Back to you, Hi Monsey, thank you very much. By

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01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 2: the way, Moncey, are you a Bad Bunny fan?

2193
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 6: I do like Bad Bunny. I may not understand what

2194
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 6: he's saying, even though I speak Spanish, you know, sometimes

2195
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 6: he doesn't enunciate very well. But I do like Bad Bunny,

2196
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 6: and I think it's hilarious that like I don't.

2197
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he has a lot of English.

2198
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 6: Songs, but he is on English radio all the time,

2199
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 6: so it's like, all right, Bad Bunny.

2200
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, Bad Bunny was one of the many celebrities the

2201
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: bandwagon is on with the Lakers.

2202
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, no, no, for sure. I actually just

2203
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 6: felt really bad for Devin Booker on that one. Yeah,

2204
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 6: his ex out at the Laker game with Bad Bunny.

2205
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 3: Oh. I didn't even think, Oh yeah, yeah.

2206
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 6: Imagine court side Bad Bunny come on, and they kind.

2207
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 2: Of look alike, like a little bit if you got

2208
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 2: to like squid look at one side of your.

2209
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but I I do like me some Bad Bunny.

2210
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie all right, thank you very much, because

2211
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 2: I'm getting tweets about it. Oh yeah, no, he is

2212
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 2: great music.

2213
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 6: But I just don't know if you listen to his music,

2214
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 6: and again I barely understand.

2215
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he has a great song with Drake. I'm

2216
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 2: still listening if Frampton comes alive. Okay, you don't know

2217
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 2: who that is, no idea. I think it's my cue

2218
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:40,799
Speaker 2: to sign out exactly.

2219
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 4: Never heard it.

2220
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Thank you very much by guys. Okay, once again, we're

2221
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 2: cover you live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, when you when you see Jack Nicholson front

2224
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 2: and center again courtside at Laker games. Jack is now

2225
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: eighty five, you know his demise was grossly overstated. He's

2226
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 2: seemed pretty much Jack like sitting in his favorite seat,

2227
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 2: uh court side for the game last night. But this

2228
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 2: is what happens, you know how it is. People are saying, well,

2229
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 2: he wasn't he wasn't feeling good. It wasn't. It wasn't

2230
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: that he wasn't feeling good. The Lakers sucked. Why would

2231
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: he go out to the games. There's no reason to

2232
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 2: go there. So I'm do you have a problem with

2233
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: bandwagon fans? I have no problem with bandwagon fans. I'm

2234
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 2: always amazed by fans that show up when teams really

2235
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 2: are bad and they consistently support their team. I have

2236
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 2: nothing but huge admiration for fans like that. But the

2237
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 2: idea of being a bandwagon fan, I didn't. I don't

2238
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 2: have a problem with that.

2239
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 3: You don't have a problem with bandwagon fans, Johnny cum lately.

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01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 3: You know what my fare was hard work, jump in

2241
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 3: you need how about this?

2242
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 2: So back in twenty twelve, the LA Kings hockey team

2243
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles went on a run to eventually

2244
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 2: when their first Stanley Cup, and they actually had a bus.

2245
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: They came around the city and on those bus it

2246
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: said band wagon and they invited us on. Like I

2247
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 2: went on the band wagon and they welcome to open arms.

2248
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 2: It was almost like we get it, Like you're not

2249
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: a hockey fan, but you want to be associated with

2250
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 2: the winner, and we're about to win a championship, So

2251
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 2: jump aboard, come on, little bandwagon time.

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01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's human different, right, I mean, it

2253
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:27,480
Speaker 3: is human nature. But like fan is short for fanatic,

2254
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 3: and so yes, I would think that the people wh

2255
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 3: would have problems with bandwagoners are those who have been

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01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 3: longtime devoted fans, who've been through the trials and tribulations,

2257
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 3: the ups and downs of their fandom, and so you

2258
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 3: don't want someone coming in sampling off of that, sipping

2259
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 3: off the success that wasn't they haven't invested in. Don't

2260
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 3: want that. That's not fun.

2261
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: Well, not only was Jack there, Lou Adler was there again.

2262
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean they've been sitting side by side. You can

2263
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 2: go back to all the glory days of the Lakers.

2264
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 2: The legendary record producer Lou Adler, who's even older than Jack,

2265
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 2: I think he's like eighty nine. Now. He's the guy

2266
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 2: that says nice to Jack, and we haven't seen them

2267
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 2: together in a long time, but they were there together

2268
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 2: last night. All right, So I want to break this

2269
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 2: down with you. Bucky Lakers Nuggets series. We'll start in Tuesday. Obviously,

2270
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 2: the Nuggets have home court advantage. Lakers have beaten two

2271
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: consecutive teams in the playoffs where they had to open

2272
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 2: up on the road. What's your gut what's your gut

2273
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 2: feeling right now? Of this Lakers Denver Nuggets Western Conference Finals?

2274
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 3: The Nuggets are the favorite. The Nuggets have more firepower

2275
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 3: than the Lakers, and in most instances, you would always

2276
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 3: take the Nuggets to win this because they're the bigger,

2277
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 3: better team, They're deeper, they have more accomplished scores, guys

2278
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 3: that can put it in the hole. The problem is

2279
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 3: you just worry about Lebron being able to turn back

2280
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 3: to clock for four games. Not that he becomes the

2281
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 3: look the score extraordinaire. But he gets everyone involved, he

2282
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 3: manages the game, He runs the team correctly in those things.

2283
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 3: The biggest missmatter, though, is joker on whoever the Lakers

2284
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 3: put on him, because he's going to put them in

2285
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 3: the blender and he's going to get buckets and and ones.

2286
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 3: All right.

2287
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 2: So there is a name that you have not heard

2288
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 2: in these playoffs that may actually have a presence for

2289
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers in this series. Mobamba. Now remember Mobama was

2290
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 2: a six overall picking the draft not that long ago.

2291
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 2: He's a big guy, tall, tall. Look, you can't have

2292
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: a d on k the entire time because it would

2293
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 2: be all consuming and would take a d out of

2294
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: his offensive game, which the Lakers absolutely need. You need

2295
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 2: another big body out there. There's who else did they have? Look,

2296
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 2: give me anybody they can put on body up against them.

2297
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 3: You put Mobamba on him. He is going on Jo

2298
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 3: Joker is going to go absolutely ballistic. He's too little,

2299
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 3: he's too light. He won't make it past stander, build

2300
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 3: him who else? Without three fouls. You have to man

2301
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 3: him up. You have to say, hey man, you have

2302
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 3: to put your chest out there and you have to

2303
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: handle some of this year.

2304
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: I really want Ad to get two quick fouls in

2305
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 2: the game game over.

2306
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 3: You have the cross match, but you're not going to

2307
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 3: be able to do it. Or what you do is

2308
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 3: you blitz them, you trap him, you stun him, you

2309
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 3: make the ball go elsewhere. He can't beat you, and

2310
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 3: you live with the other guys shooting threes.

2311
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,759
Speaker 2: I I don't know how to look at this series

2312
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 2: other than the fact that there is a guy named

2313
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 2: Lebron James who all time in his career is ten

2314
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 2: and one in conference finals, and this one as last

2315
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 2: nine in a row. He's including three years ago against

2316
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 2: the same Denver Nuggets team.

2317
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 3: He's thirty eight. Thirty eight is like twenty one in

2318
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 3: dog years.

2319
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what we saw in the series

2320
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,120
Speaker 2: from him and Ad. You can take off a game,

2321
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: but what we've been witnessing in these playoffs is sort

2322
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: of a playoff version of load management where you may

2323
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 2: not actually miss a game, but you sort of take

2324
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 2: a game off. You know, you're not really playing any defense.

2325
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: That was what happened in game five. Lebron just literally

2326
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: stop playing defense, did not put out a lick of

2327
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 2: effort on the defensive end to save a little gas

2328
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: in the tank, and then he shows up in a

2329
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 2: big way in the game to side a game six.

2330
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. So when you have an older

2331
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 3: team at spots, you have to pick and choose when

2332
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 3: you go play play your guys and when you're gonna

2333
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 3: give him, let them play maximum effort.

2334
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: All right, I'm making prediction right now. Whoever wins Game

2335
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 2: one in Denver will win the series. The Lakers will

2336
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: be well rested. Both teams will be well rested because

2337
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 2: not until.

2338
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 3: Tuesday they can run them out of the gym. They're

2339
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 3: gonna try and use the altitude and all that stuff.

2340
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you're going to see a track meet. The

2341
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 3: Nuggets would not stop from one end to the other end.

2342
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 3: And do the Lakers have enough discipline to avoid getting

2343
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 3: into that kind of game?

2344
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's my prediction. Whoever wins Game one

2345
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 2: of the Western Conference Finals will go on to win

2346
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: that series. All right, some other look ahead, some other

2347
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: predictions coming up. This is Fox Sports Saturday one two,

2348
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 2: swinging a deep shot and there it goes Cliff Field.

2349
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 2: This one is home down, Eric Judge, He's second home run.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the guys today, Iowa Sam was here early.

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Speaker 2: Chris our resident XFL expert, breaking it all down today,

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Speaker 2: and uh yeah we are a little over an hour way.

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Speaker 2: We found out that a lot of you are actually

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Speaker 2: EXFL fans, So enjoy the game today between the Defenders

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Speaker 2: and the Renegades.

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Speaker 3: I think of that is all right.

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Speaker 2: Rennygates, of course, Uh, Monci Brilliant is always on our updates.

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Speaker 2: And then there's Brandon, our producer. Who, Brandon, are you

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Speaker 2: going to be watching this XFL Championship game coming up?

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Speaker 2: Hell no, hell no, very good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Who watching a Game six between the Cracking and the

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Speaker 9: Stars instead.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll watch. Are we going to get a

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Speaker 2: Kracking Knights matchup the next round?

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Speaker 3: What do we got?

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Speaker 9: Maybe definitely in the possibility.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: So are we at the point now where we should

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Speaker 2: start breaking out a little NHL Yes.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The thing about it is on Sundays here, Rich and

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Speaker 2: I we have JP Morosi who is a big time

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Speaker 2: NHL guy along with the covering Major League Baseball, so

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Speaker 2: we'll get a little NHL inside from him. That'd be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Second year franchise the Kracking, of course, the Knights they

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Speaker 2: got all the way to the Stanley Cup Final in

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Speaker 2: their maiden season.

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Speaker 9: I mean every team left is really interesting and intriguing. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: the Florida Panthers, the Carolina Hurricanes, Yeah, and the Knights

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Speaker 9: and the Oilers Cracking, yeah, stars all very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was always amazed going back in

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Speaker 2: the day when the Jacksonville and Carolina got to the

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Speaker 2: conference championship games in their second year of existence? Was

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Speaker 2: that their second or third year? It was something like that, right,

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Speaker 2: Remember they both got to the conference championship games? How

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Speaker 2: is that possible? Could the NFL duplicated because the last

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Speaker 2: time we saw expansion league we saw the Texans. They

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Speaker 2: were terrible. The New Browns were awful. But when we

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Speaker 2: see the NHL, well, the Knights getting all the way

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Speaker 2: to the Stanley Cup Final. Now the Cracking making a

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Speaker 2: deep run in the second year. Is that even possible

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Speaker 2: in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: So I was on that Jacksonville team that went to

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Speaker 3: the championship game in ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, upside Denver in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said Denver and the Buffalo Bills lost to

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Speaker 3: the Patriots. Yeah, it can happen, but like some of

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Speaker 3: those rules at the time, the expansion stuff was different

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Speaker 3: and the two teams took different pass Bill Paulium was

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Speaker 3: ahead of the Panthers. They when we're older players right now,

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Speaker 3: players on defense. So it could be good on one

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Speaker 3: side of the ball. The jacksonth Jaguars were upstarts, a

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Speaker 3: lot of young players. It could happen, but man, it

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Speaker 3: takes a coach who kind of understands how to deal

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Speaker 3: with what he's getting. I think you have to have

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Speaker 3: a management team that's been in the league for a

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Speaker 3: long time to kind of pull that off.

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Speaker 2: Coughlin a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because he won two Super Bowls in New York.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and he beat the Patriots twice.

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Speaker 3: Does it now we can argue like the resume in

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Speaker 3: terms of like real Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I'm see in a lot of ways, he's very similar

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Speaker 2: to coach Flores with the Raiders, who eventually I was

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Speaker 2: very happy obviously knowing the man getting into the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. Your thoughts on tomorrow Celtics Sixers in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Who wins that game in advances to the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 3: Well, it used to be a time that the Celtics

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Speaker 3: never would lose a Game seven at their place. You know,

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Speaker 3: you think about all those things, and I think it

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Speaker 3: applies now Jason Tatum finds a way to get it done.

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Speaker 3: I would love to see the Sixers advanced, but I

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Speaker 3: just don't think they're good enough.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying all along, I think Boston's the most

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Speaker 2: talented team in this league. They haven't proven it all

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Speaker 2: that time. Hey, don't go anywhere, folks. Much more coming up.

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