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Speaker 1: A young mom lets her two year old little girl

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Speaker 1: starved to death? How how can that happen? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see, Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Devin Moon's little girl, Reagan weighed just

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Speaker 1: four pounds when she was found. A two year old

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Speaker 1: take that in because, of course, my daughter Lucy was

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Speaker 1: two pounds when she was born, but John David was

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Speaker 1: five pounds at birth. Over five pounds. This girl is

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Speaker 1: two years old and she only weighs fourteen pounds. Joining

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Speaker 1: me right now. Dr Brian Russell, lawyer, psychologist, host of

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Speaker 1: Eastern Vincent Hill cop turned private investigator, Karen Smith, forensics

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Speaker 1: expert Ashley Willcott, judge lawyer found her child crime watch

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Speaker 1: dot Com and joining me right now. Investigative journalists with

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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com John Lemley, John, Let's just start

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Speaker 1: at the beginning. What nobody noticed that a two year

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Speaker 1: old child only weighed fourteen pounds. Oh, somebody did notice.

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Speaker 1: In fact, about a year before the child's death, the grandmother,

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Speaker 1: Deborah Walton Moon, had been spending some time with little Reagan,

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Speaker 1: who was then around two years old, and she just

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Speaker 1: noticed that she was skin and bones, and she thought

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Speaker 1: maybe there was something wrong with the child. So she

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Speaker 1: decided to take the child in to see a doctor.

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Speaker 1: The doctor said that for her age, and at this

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Speaker 1: final weight loss. And he said she really, for her age,

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Speaker 1: six months later she took the child back again and

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Speaker 1: he said, ma'am, this child weighs the very same twenty

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Speaker 1: pounds that she weighed when you brought her back in April.

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Speaker 1: I asked you a quick question. You know how much

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Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt, John Limley, But so he the

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Speaker 1: doctor sees the child is I know this is not

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Speaker 1: a correct verb. Everybody go ahead and laugh. And he

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Speaker 1: sees a child as malnutrians. What does he do about it?

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Speaker 1: John Lmley, We really don't know that the doctor did anything,

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Speaker 1: to be perfectly honest, No, in oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: right there, I'm not saying the doctor did this. Obviously

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Speaker 1: the mother did it, all right, Ashley Wilcott, child Crime,

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Speaker 1: Why dot Com are you watching? You see this? What's

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Speaker 1: with the doctor. Isn't it the law that doctors, school teachers,

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Speaker 1: child caregivers must report child abuse and doesn't that includes

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Speaker 1: starving your baby? Yeah, something's really amiss. So, yes, he

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Speaker 1: was a mandatory reporter in Georgia. He should have reported it,

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Speaker 1: but taken a second step, Nancy, and the law was

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Speaker 1: they believe that that child is being abused and neglected.

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Speaker 1: So he could have even gone a step further and

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Speaker 1: refused to allow the mother to pick up the child.

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Speaker 1: I would have snatched that child Ryan out of that home.

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Speaker 1: I mean, tell me again, John Limley, Crime Online dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter. What now? So the baby goes Reagan

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Speaker 1: John Limley, I don't understand how weeks pass and the

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Speaker 1: closing things out here and there. But that of course

429
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: was a major blow to the case because for you know,

430
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: twenty odd years, nothing was checked against them, no DNA

431
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: on file, nothing. I cannot even imagine. Back to Shante Sturgis,

432
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: the sister of the missing girls, I can't imagine the

433
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: suffering your mom went through finding out the case was

434
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: closed because somebody claimed they saw the twins? Is that true?

435
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: Did somebody see them? Chante no, no about us has

436
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: never seen them. Um, we actually don't even know if

437
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: that is true about the probation officer being in contact

438
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: with them the whole time, because the same probation officer

439
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: also told my mom that he didn't understand why I

440
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: reached mccounty but and go ouhead to look for them,

441
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: and he was gonna try to help us because he

442
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: didn't understand how two girls go missing and nobody does

443
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: anything well. He was also joining me in addition to

444
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Laura Norton from Fall Line, is Brooke Hardgrowth from Fall

445
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: Lines highly popular podcast and Michael Wheeling from Unresolved highly

446
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: popular podcast. Brooke, who is this person? Says he saw

447
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: the twins? What we found out Nancy about this individual?

448
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: There were several cases that he was in charge of

449
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: investigating over the years of missing missing persons, but specifically

450
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: missing children. He seemed to tire of these cases because

451
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: he said that they would often find these children that

452
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: were runaways, returned them to their family, only to have

453
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: them run away again. So in his mind, these children

454
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: were in that category. He actually referred to them as

455
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: just two runaways. In our call with him, he reported

456
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: that they had been found, when that was not true.

457
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: We believe he was trying to clear the case out

458
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to investigate them. He seemed to

459
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: just look at them as two kids from the project,

460
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, just got into trouble and we're runaways. Okay.

461
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: That is breaking my heart because these girls, two sisters,

462
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: didn't run away and stay away from their mother and

463
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: their sister and their family all these years. That's not true.

464
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: That is not true. If you have any information regarding

465
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Janette and Jeanette, please call the Richmond County Sheriff seven

466
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: zero six eight to one one zero six zero repeat,

467
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: seven zero six eight to one zero six zero. Michael

468
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: Wheeling Unresolved pod cast host, And this is just one

469
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: of those stories that I first discovered it, there wasn't

470
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: really any like major news coverage of the case. But

471
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I moved to Augusta about a year and a half ago,

472
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: and I remember when I discovered the story was a

473
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: kind of like an article that was covering Augusta's missing

474
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: unsolved cases, basically everything dating back to the nineteen seventies,

475
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: and hidden right in the middle of it, is a

476
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: story of two twins that disappeared on the exact same day.

477
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: In to me, that just always stood out as something that,

478
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, sets this case apart from everything else I've researched.

479
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: When you talk about missing people, it's normally a big deal,

480
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: people make a big stink about it. And when two

481
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: or more people go missing, it's you know, like the

482
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: Springfield three is one of the biggest mysteries in America,

483
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: and that's gotten tons of press conforage, it's gotten news articles,

484
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: it's gotten news clippings, and this just had nothing. It's

485
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: just heartbreaking nothing. As the mother sat by with her

486
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: heartbreaking every single day and I want my girls, my family,

487
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that we do get justice what it

488
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: would know him at all. For those of you just

489
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: joining us, we are investigating the sudden and mysterious disappearance

490
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: of two young girls from Augusta, Georgia, Danette and Jeanette Millbrook.

491
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: For some reason within the police department, the case was closed.

492
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: The file disappeared shortly after their disappearance. That it wasn't

493
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: just lost. The two girls were then actively removed from

494
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: the National Database of Missing Children, So that's not just

495
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: accidentally losing the file, Laura Norton. It's not just saying okay,

496
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a cold case. This is actively going to

497
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: the national database and removing them that it's no longer

498
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: an act of omission. It's said a decision to remove

499
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: them from the databank. Laura, I don't understand it. It

500
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: was a purposeful choice, and it was very strange because

501
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: we have mentioned a probation officer, but I want to

502
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: be clear, the twins were not on probation. They were

503
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: not in trouble. The probation officer lived in their neighborhood

504
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: and that's why their mother went to him for some help.

505
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: And this is the man that was blamed after he

506
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: had already died for this problem by the original investigator.

507
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: The twins where homebodies. They were sweet girls, and Danette

508
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: actually was on seizure medication for Grandma's seizures. Certainly not

509
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: the kind of runaway that you might imagine. Back to

510
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: Santa Sturgis, the sister of Jeanette and Danette, the missing

511
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: twin girls, we left off with the story. You guys

512
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: went to church that morning, your mom was broke. The

513
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: pastor gave her money for everybody to go out for

514
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: fried chicken lunch. They go to Church's Chicken, They make

515
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: it to a convenience store that has been verified, and

516
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: then at that point, shante what happens at the point

517
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: my mom went we went back home. My mom called

518
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: reached my county and they told her in order for

519
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: her to report them missing, that she had to wait

520
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. So she waited the twenty four hours.

521
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: They still he came back. She Steve was calling around

522
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: asking people they've seen nobody. Nobody still had seen them

523
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: at that point. The next week after is when they

524
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: sent to investigat out. The investigator came out and wait

525
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute. A whole week passes, yes, ma'am.

526
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh Brooke Hargrove, Oh man, that's bad. A whole week passes, yes, ma'am.

527
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: This is one in a spring of outrageous actions against

528
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: this family, frankly by the local law enforcement. To Michael Wheeling,

529
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: host of Unresolved podcast, Why a Week, I honestly wish

530
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: I could tell you that that is what I've covered

531
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: my fast share of missing persons cases, But this is

532
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the first time where there's been the twenty four hour

533
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: waiting period to report two children missing, and then days,

534
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: if not a week, to come out and take statements

535
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: from the family members. This is so unlike anything even

536
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: for you know, at some point when you you start

537
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: looking at it and hearing all this, it almost seems

538
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: as if the investigators no more than they're saying, because

539
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: you've got them first saying, oh, you can't report them

540
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours. Then the detective assigned to it goes,

541
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: they're just runaways. Then he claims a witness spots them

542
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: and actively closes the file. The file gets quote lost,

543
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: then someone goes to the next level of having them

544
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: removed from the national database of missing people. Now we

545
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: learn an investigator wasn't even sent out for a week. Michael,

546
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any explanation for that? I wish

547
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I could tell you. Unfortunately, all the like you said,

548
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: the original case documents are gone, so we can't even

549
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, other than what the family has said since then,

550
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: there's no record of you know, when they and out

551
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: and when they started to actually investigate anything, or even

552
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: what they investigated. If I could clarify ahead, dear Nancy,

553
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: this is Brooke. I'd like to clarify after the twenty

554
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: four hour waiting period, they did send a beat cop.

555
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: He took down a few preliminary notes. Almost all of

556
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: them were incorrect. Heating correctly spelled their name, He took

557
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: down their birthday, wrong, the wrong street, they were last

558
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: seen on, etcetera. After that, the family didn't hear anything

559
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: from the police department for a week. And after that

560
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: week is when they sent out an investigator who came

561
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: out and said he would be in charge of the case.

562
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: So beat cop comes, gets the wrong information, but still

563
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: an investigator did not come for a solid week. I've

564
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: been investigating the twins and this is what I've learned.

565
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: They were well known and loved and their small community

566
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: there in Augusta. They loved music, they loved TV. They

567
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: were happy, they loved school. They got great grades. They

568
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: were never known to be troublemakers. They didn't. They had

569
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: no history of ever running away. There was no motive

570
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: at the time for them to run away. It was

571
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: a normal Sunday. They had no history of misbehavior. There

572
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: was one instance, because one of them was being bullied

573
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: at a bus stop, that they got into an argument

574
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: one time, and that is consistent with what Shanta the

575
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: sister has told us no trouble, good grades, the works.

576
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: The mother, Mary Louise Sturgis, has been very involved trying

577
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: to find her twins. Now understand this, Danette and Jeanette

578
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: had eight siblings, and the mom has her hands full

579
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: as she's trying to find two teen missing girls, apparently

580
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: getting very little help from the local police. And then

581
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: the file gets lost and investigators dropped the case without

582
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: the mom knowing. It just seems to get worse and

583
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: worse and worse. Shante Sturgis, their sister, is with us now. Shanta,

584
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: tell me about how they're disappearing. It's affected your mother,

585
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: has affected her tremendously because, I mean, you know how

586
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: some people get around and they're like her age. She

587
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: ceased to three now they went missing when they was

588
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: she was in her thirties, so she don't get around

589
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: like most people do. It has took a toll on

590
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: her pretty much. It did something to her, so sometimes

591
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: she was giving up hope. You know. She kept trying

592
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: to call down in to the police department to get

593
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: somebody to help, and they would always tell her no.

594
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: It was just before their birthday the twins headed out

595
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: to visit their family friend. Their little sister, then twelve,

596
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Chante begged to go with them, but being the older sisters,

597
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: they said no, just like my sister and brother would

598
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: tell me. We we've pieced together the fact that they

599
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: go to a local pumpings shop gas station. It's also

600
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: a convenient store, and it's there the intersection of twelfth

601
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Street and m Okay Boulevard in Augusta. They go inside,

602
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: they get chips and drinks. The store clerk positively identifies

603
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: them being there and that they were fine. It was

604
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: about four or thirty in the afternoon on a Sunday.

605
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: The clerk got busy at the cash register. She saw

606
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: the girls leave. She caught a glimpse of a vehicle outside,

607
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: not enough to give a description or to say whether

608
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: the twins got into the vehicle, but we know this.

609
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: They disappeared. They disappeared and have never been seen again.

610
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: To Laura Norton, fall Line podcast host, since the case

611
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: has been reopened, what kind of searches are going on? None?

612
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: So what's the point of reopening it? There wasn't Well,

613
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: That's what I wondered when I found stumbled across the case.

614
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I truly believe this is not the only case that

615
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: had this sort of treatment in Augusta. I want to

616
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: be clear about that many missing persons cases of miners

617
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: were mishandled during that period and close prematurely Parsay was involved.

618
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Nothing has happened. An investigator was assigned in two thousand

619
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: and thirteen, briefly took in a from Shanty and her

620
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: mother and their sister who was fully related to the

621
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: twins in terms of them having both the same mother

622
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: and father, bestI and a sample, and began some preliminary research.

623
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: But then she left the department, and at the time

624
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: that we began looking into the case, no one was

625
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: assigned to it and no further action had been taken.

626
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that it was only reopened because of

627
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: pressure from your podcast? Fall line? That it was reopened

628
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: in two thousand and thirteen, and that was when the

629
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: new sheriff was elected. Richard Rowntree and Shanta directly contacted

630
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office at that point and asked them to

631
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: do so. He was reaching out to the community asking

632
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: what he could do. But between two thousand and thirteen

633
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: and June of two thousand and seventeen, when we began

634
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: our podcast, nothing further had happened. Agree or disagree Michael

635
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: with unresolved. Yeah, Richmond County so far has really done

636
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: nothing to inspire any confidence that the investigation is going somewhere.

637
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I've tried reaching out to them. I've called,

638
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: I've sent emails. I've even tried filing a Freedom of

639
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: Information Act not too long ago, and I haven't even

640
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: heard back on that. So as far as I know,

641
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: there is no movement on the case, and I'm not

642
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: even sure if anyone is openly investigating the case as

643
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: of this moment. They're not. There was someone assigned, but

644
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: they've recently been moved to another department. We know because

645
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: we do regularly contact them with leads and information that

646
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: we developed, and there's no one currently assigned to the case.

647
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: But Deshaunte started us. The sister of Danette and Jeanette,

648
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Shaunte that day that you realized your sisters were gone.

649
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that day and that night

650
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: as the hours began to pass and they didn't come home,

651
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: My mom pacing up and down, and we just kept

652
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: as I kept, you know, I was up with her.

653
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: My other sister was up with them. She just kept

654
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: talking about it, you know, And finally everybody went to

655
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: sleep and we got up to go to school that

656
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: next morning. When we got home from school, we asked

657
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the head they came back home and she was like no,

658
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: she hadn't heard from I said, what have you heard

659
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: from the police? Did they say anything? She was like no,

660
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: that nick sweet. When they did send the cop out

661
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 1: that they got the information about they clothes they had

662
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: on that day, on where they were going, and whoever

663
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: they had contact with that day, did they had boyfriends

664
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. He would ask her questions

665
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: like that, but we didn't really get no investigation out

666
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: of anything, even when the investigator did come out on

667
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: the thing he did was go to the school and

668
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: talk to the people at the school that they attended,

669
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: which was Lucilline in High School. He talked to some

670
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: of the kids there, I think they said he talked

671
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: to the principal there, and the principal postman told him

672
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: that he's seen the girls standing on the corner and

673
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: when he called their name, they just took off runting.

674
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: But that was never confirmed. This is what the investigator said,

675
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: but he never went to the convenience or to talk

676
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: to Miss Gloria. He never went and talked to my sister.

677
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: He never talked to my cousin them that day. Everybody

678
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: they had had contact with them that day they went missing.

679
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: He never talked to on the people he talked to us,

680
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: the people at the school that claimed that they saw

681
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: them standing on the corner or they claimed he said

682
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: they've seen them in the bottom which is project that's

683
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: called Underwood Homes. They were supposed to be down there.

684
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: And then they said that they were supposed to being

685
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: at somebody house project called delth to Manor where my

686
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: mom she stays there. Now, um, they had a couple

687
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: of friends that did stay down there, but they really

688
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: didn't go to many place, you know, and whenever we

689
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: did go into where all of us went together, it's

690
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: just that particular day, everybody just had came home from church.

691
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, my mom was getting there. Everybody rid of

692
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: for school the next day. She wanted to feed everybody

693
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: before they went to bed, and she sent them out

694
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: and and they't like you know, people might say, okay,

695
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: everybody needed that to fifteen year old was walk But

696
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: I used to walk and I was twelve years old,

697
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: and we used to walk going to the friend's house

698
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: of whatever. Back then. Also, we didn't think that nothing

699
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: was gonna happen all over the neighborhood out in the

700
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: middle really of of of nowhere. Here's the question to

701
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Brook our Grove Brooke. Apparently it's believed that the girls

702
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: got enough money to take a bus to a high school.

703
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: Do we know if they got on the bus. Did

704
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: that happen? No, ma'am. So they were collecting some money

705
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: from their godfather to use to take the bus to

706
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: the high school each day the following week. Uh, the

707
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: last time they were seen was at the convenience store,

708
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: which would have been around four or five pm. They

709
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: were never seen again. Any reports that they were seen

710
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: came directly from the original investigator, who it has been

711
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: shown that he has um fabricated some details in the

712
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: past in order to be able to close the case.

713
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: We don't believe they made it very far past the

714
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: convenience store, and they certainly never got on a bus

715
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: and went to school again. My question is how do

716
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: two teen girls just disappear at the same time. I mean,

717
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: it would be very diff the cult to control two

718
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: teen girls that don't want to get in your vehicle

719
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: or don't want to go with you from the convenience

720
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: store to their home, to my understanding, is less than

721
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: a mile. And at that time it would have still

722
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: been daylight outside. So how in broad daylight did two

723
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: girls on a very busy street get dragged into a

724
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: car by a random kidnapper? It says to me, it

725
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: had to bait somebody that they knew. What about that,

726
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Laura Norton, I think that's the most likely scenario. The

727
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: only other and less likely option. There was a serial

728
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: rapist operating in the neighborhood at the time. Who was Washington, Yes, ma'am,

729
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: and take George sorry, Joseph Patrick Washington, and he was

730
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: taking people off the street busy times a day with

731
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: a gun. But once again, as you say to people,

732
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: so the most likely scenario is it would be someone

733
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: that they knew. Um, they did not take rides from strangers,

734
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: They were not hitchhikers. Now with Washington, would this have

735
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: been his emo? Compared to victims? Time of day a Sunday,

736
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: And weren't the victims found with Washington as opposed to

737
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Dinette Janette never found. Well, it kind of was across

738
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: the board. They would have been in the victim pool

739
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: in a large and broadway. They were a little younger.

740
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Um the time of day was a little later. But

741
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: some of Washington's victims were found where he left them.

742
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: But a few people were found fairly far away. But

743
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: you're right, as far as we know, they were found

744
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: questioned back to Shaunte Star just as sister of the

745
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: missing girls, Dannette and Jeanette mill Brooks. I know that

746
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: you finally took it over from your mother because she

747
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: was just exhausted with trying to get the police to

748
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: act in this case, and that you call them, call them,

749
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: call them incessantly until a sheriff finally agrees to look

750
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: into it. Only discovered the case has been closed for years.

751
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: When you would call them, Shunte, when you would call place,

752
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: what would they say to you? Crazy stuff that wasn't true.

753
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: My call down there a couple of times. They told

754
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: me my mom kids head got taken away from them.

755
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: I needed to call defects office to find out information

756
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: from Well, that wasn't true because you were there with

757
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: your mother and the other all the eight brothers and sisters.

758
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: They were not taken away and there have been no

759
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: claims of child protective services in that home. I can't

760
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: believe one of them even said that. Okay, what else?

761
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: After called? I did what they said? I called Defects.

762
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: Defects told me to call Falster Home um they probably

763
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: was adopted out of something they gave me on phone them,

764
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: and to call some adoption agency that was in Atlanta, Georgia.

765
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I called that adopted ation. They told me, well, I

766
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: don't know what they would Why would they tell you

767
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: to call us because we wouldn't be able to give

768
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: you any information in the way if they did. But

769
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: they told me because I was the sister or the

770
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: only way they would give me information is that I

771
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: felt that paperwork and they was gonna mad the paperwork

772
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: to of me, which they did, but I never filled

773
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: it out and sent it back because I really know

774
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: what was the stated wasn't true. Wait, let me understand

775
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Are you telling me Chante police told

776
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: you to call an adoption agency like your teen sisters

777
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: were adopted that day? The police told me to call Defects,

778
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: they said, because they're from their recollection. But they're saying

779
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: the case file was closed. Now they they have them

780
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: in the foul But from whatever he was seeing, the

781
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: guy that I talked to, I don't know his name,

782
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: but he told me from what he was seeing that

783
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: my mom kids had got taken away. Maybe, um, they

784
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: you called the defects office because they probably by now

785
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: they're probably been adopted out because they had been so

786
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: many years, from nineteen nine to the time that I

787
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: started looking for them. Oh oh oh, that's killing me.

788
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: That's killing me, Brook Hargrove. She's trying to find her sisters,

789
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: and police say called defects. They all know that children

790
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: are in the home, The other eight children are in

791
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: the home. They know that children have not been removed

792
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: from the home, and then they suggest defacts suggests the

793
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: girls were adopted. That's ridiculous. Absolutely, Even if children have

794
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: been removed from the home and attempted to be adopted out,

795
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: the biological mother has to sign paperwork terminating her parental rights,

796
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: which of course Shaunte's mother never did. It's totally absurd.

797
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they would even say that. So, Shaunte,

798
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, de Facts Department Family Children's Services and we

799
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: have confirmed this was never called to the home. The

800
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: children were not put up for adoption, and the fact

801
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: that they would say this is another black eye to

802
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: the police. Why would they have said that instead of

803
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: saying talking to you about the investigation, shanty exactly what

804
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: I indeed, further my widening, y'all give her a chain

805
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: to get her keys back. If y'all field that the

806
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: ending of the keys was in danger, why y'all left

807
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the other keys and just took two keys out of

808
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: the home. I said, that doesn't make any sense, sir, Well,

809
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: it's all a big lie because we know the current

810
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: sheriff has reopened a missing person possible homicide case. So

811
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: that's totally a lie. That brings me to my question,

812
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: Laura Norton, why the lie? Well, I think that this

813
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: is a long culture of apathy and incompetence. And when

814
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: we speak to the adoption case, there was someone in

815
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the system with a similar last name. There was not

816
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: enough effort put into checking that to look at the

817
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: first name and see, of course it's not the twins

818
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: um And I really think in this case, although it

819
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: seems horrible and unbelievable, it has simply been a long

820
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: string of incompetence, apathy, and not caring about young poor

821
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: girls of color. In Augusta, Georgia Chantey questioned, do you

822
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: believe your sisters are alive at this point? I'm as sure.

823
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I want to believe they are. I always had hope

824
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: all these years that they are, but right now I'm

825
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: not sure. Years and years, like almost thirty years now,

826
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: and we still haven't founded anything. And I think he

827
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: had to share the department did something back then in

828
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: nineteen nine, and we probably won't be where we were,

829
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: probably know something by now. But I never give up.

830
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: I said, I keep on going and keep going until

831
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: we can at least find something out because somebody out

832
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: there's no they just disappeared. You nobody know anything. And

833
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: I got contact and then on Facebook by Brooke and Loura,

834
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: and from that point on they've been doing the investigation.

835
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: It has been the police department. So I think if

836
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: had I they contacted me, we're still back to be

837
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: back in nineteen nine, which I still feel like we

838
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: are because they still ain't doing anything. Brooke Hargrove, one

839
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: of the producers of Falling podcast along with Laura Norton,

840
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: with us Now Michael Wheeland, host of the Unresolved podcast,

841
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: Brooke Hargrove. I understand an investigator agreed to meet with

842
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: you after you uncovered new leads, but on the condition

843
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: they don't you don't discuss the case, and you were

844
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: not allowed to ask any questions. The family could come,

845
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: but only if they asked no questions. Is that true?

846
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: That's true? And unfortunately when we did show up for

847
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: the meeting, it was myself and Laura and Shanty and

848
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: her mother, Miss Louise. Once we showed up, we were

849
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: told there were too many people that only two people

850
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: would be allowed to attend the meeting, so I had

851
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: to go in and make the evidence presentation. Shanta went

852
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: in because she's been heading the case since age nineteen,

853
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: and Miss Louise, who had never had an in person

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Speaker 1: meeting about her children's case since nineteen ever she's never

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Speaker 1: had one ever, was made to sit in the lobby

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Speaker 1: and wait while this meeting took place. I just don't

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Speaker 1: even know what to say to that, Brook, How horrible

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Speaker 1: it is. Brooke, You on behalf of fall Line podcast

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Speaker 1: have developed new leads? What are they? We have several, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: We started first looking into the Joseph Patrick Washington connection

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Speaker 1: because his victim profile is very similar to Jeanette and Janette.

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Speaker 1: There have also been some Jane Does recovered in the Aiken,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina area, which is very close geographically to Augusta.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of like sister cities. One of them, Shauntey,

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Speaker 1: saw a reconstruction on the news in the I believe

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Speaker 1: late nineties, and she thought to herself, my goodness, that

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Speaker 1: person looks so much like Jeannette. She called Richmond County

868
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Speaker 1: she said, I just saw Jane Doe reconstruction on the news.

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Speaker 1: Looks like my sister. They said, oh no, that that

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Speaker 1: wasn't the twins, although they could never explain to her

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Speaker 1: how they came to that conclusion because they didn't have

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Speaker 1: any materials for testing until when they reopened the case.

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Speaker 1: We were able to contact the corner in Aiken County,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, and he is currently running a comparison between

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Speaker 1: that Jane Doe, who is still unclaimed and Jeanette. We're

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Speaker 1: waiting on results. To Michael Wheelan, what do you make

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00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: of it at the moment, just really hard to overlook,

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Speaker 1: you know, how many leads there were, how many suspects

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00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: that police should have investigated, but they spent twenty three

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Speaker 1: years not following up on any of them. There were

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Speaker 1: so many different, you know, serial offenders that lived in

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Speaker 1: the surrounding area, and none of them were really investigated.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm looking at some cases from around the

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Speaker 1: vicinity of where the twins lived, and it's, like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's just hard not to get frustrated with how much

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Speaker 1: is out there to be investigated and police did none

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Speaker 1: of it. To Laura Norton, what is your fall line? Podcast?

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Speaker 1: Tip line? Our tip line is that four zero four

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Speaker 1: five nine zero two and Michael Wheeling with the Unresolved podcast, Michael,

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Speaker 1: do you have a tipline? What is it? Yes? I do.

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Speaker 1: It is one two zero zero three five zero. I

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Speaker 1: strongly believe that the FBI needs to be involved in

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Speaker 1: this disappearance and the investigation of what went wrong within

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Speaker 1: the Richmond County Sheriff's office Chante Sturgis, I was contented

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Speaker 1: by my mom and they told her they couldn't do

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Speaker 1: anything to help her because the origin to investigator see it,

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Speaker 1: they had been found. Well, you know what, since that's

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Speaker 1: not true, maybe they can reconsider Nancy Grace crime stories.

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Speaker 1: Signing off, goodbye friend,