WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3407 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.920 Welcome to Pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.040 recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.360 to dance, and have now seen exactly seven episodes of 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.400 Dancing with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.920 has joined the cast for season thirty four, We're going 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.200 all in. We are Wilfred Allen, Ryder Strong aka the 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.760 two dudes standing next to Topanga aka Daniel Fishal's backup 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.880 aka the dan Yettes. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.919 I will Daniete, Hi rider Dan. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.000 Yet, how you feeling this week in my general life 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.040 or after watching whatever the that was? 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.120 I'm with you. I'm with you, but I'm angry. I 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.400 wasn't angry other weeks, but I'm angry this week. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:54.360 What the hell? 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.080 Let's let's take a step back and just say, how 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.920 are you doing in general? 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:57.560 How are you feeling? 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.639 I am dude, Okay, you know it sounds like I've 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.480 had a call for the last four months of my life, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.279 and I finally met with a new doctor yesterday that 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:04.680 now maybe I don't. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.440 Need this sinus surgery, which is a good thing. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.559 So I'm going to be doing this whole new steroid rinse, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.960 which apparently is going to help because as a voiceover actor, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.160 everybody knows sounding sick all the time great for your career. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:19.480 So I'm uh, I'm excited about that. But that wasn't 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.880 you know? Actually that was the highlight of my week 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.120 because what, yeah. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.280 This was a tough one. Hell ill I know, but 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.919 you know, I think it's actually gonna work in her favor. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:34.319 I don't disagree. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.800 I think because I think everybody feels it. I think 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.800 everybody sees it because I watch with my parents, my 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.520 wife and my son, who have not consistently watched every episode, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.720 and their reaction was exactly mine and yours, which was, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.360 while they are being harsh, really like why did they 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.120 give her? Why did they give other people a pass 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.320 and not her? Or yep, that's my wife. But it's like, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.440 so the woman who didn't dance wet home got the 0:01:58.440 --> 0:01:59.400 same score. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.960 Yep, basically other than one point yeah, one part, And 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.760 I was like, I know that seems a little think yeah, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.560 the guy who couldn't make it to the swim meet 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:13.320 tied for fourth or whatever the like what yeah, now 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.200 we we I was gonna ask a tar of this 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.080 because she knows a lot more about this than we do. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.960 I have to imagine, with as physical a competition as 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.400 it is, they've they've had this happen before, where somebody 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.679 gets injured and can't dance, right, I mean, this wasn't 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:28.320 the first time. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.280 Yeah, is this exactly what they do every time? 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.000 Like they Yeah, it's happened, it's happened before. Well, okay, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.080 there are two different ways. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:35.760 If it's the. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.240 Pro who's injured, there could be another professional dancer who 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.440 steps in for the pro. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.680 Oh that's almost worse. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.360 Yeah, that's actually what happened with Sharna Burgess. She had 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.840 Jenna Johnson step in for her a couple of years ago, 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.360 and Jenna did the dance with her partner. And then 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.839 there was one other time that they played the celebrities 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.880 rehearsal to judge and I'm blanking on who it is. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.359 So while you guys are talking, I want to look 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:03.640 it up. But it has happened before. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.480 Yeah. I actually thought the rehearsal was great, you know, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.160 I thought it was like you could see you know. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.120 I didn't think her dance was that good. I didn't. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.560 Sorry, And now I'm like, now I guess I'm looking 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.400 for reasons. And again this comes with the bias of 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.359 having a friend on the show. I guess I'm looking 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.400 for reasons why they would score this person one way 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.480 and this person another way. And it's also arbitrary. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.680 It is all arbitrary. But I'm getting better at predicting 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.239 it now. I'm literally too. I'm spot on every time 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.200 because I shouted out to my family and it's gonna 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.000 be hs across the board. I feel the same one. Nine. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.360 Then there's only one last night good that I actually 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.760 messed up everything else I've been. I've gotten to the 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.680 point where and I think that's just knowing the judges, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:47.320 you know, like knowing, Oh, Derek's gonna like that, carry Anne's. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.440 Yeah, Carrie An has her favorites, and she'll have two 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.120 or three that no matter what they do, they could 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.680 walk on the stage trip hit their face and she'd. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.000 Be like, you tried so hard. Nine. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.360 And then Danielle does the best thing where she's doing 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.480 triple flips and she's. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.960 Like, you gotta your s Shelder is different too, and 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:02.360 it's like. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.400 What the I'm with you? Man? I held back the anger. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.440 I you know, I want to give them the benefit 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.240 of the doubt. But I could see at this point, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.160 it's starting to feel like a personal thing. It are 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.280 you as open to like the potential that Danielle might 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.560 be working her like and I don't think she is. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.120 I don't think she has. She's not seen. We'll get 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.479 into it, Okay. Halloween themed one of my favorite like 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:30.120 themes we could possibly do, although interestingly it was a 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.159 very dark Halloween interpretation. Dark there literally everybody went like 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.279 bloody and scary. Nobody went like nightmare before Christmas, fun 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.760 kookie Halloween, which I was a little surprised by it. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.880 I was like, whoa, everybody's like bloody and like kind 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.680 of awful, but which which is so funny because that's 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.160 actually more me, Like that's more my taste and in general, yeah, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.280 like I'm into it. But by the end I was like, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.480 really another like sexy bloody dance. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.599 Seriously, we couldn't have one person in a store bought 0:04:58.640 --> 0:04:59.760 Luke Skywalker costume. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.120 Like when I think about Disney Night which is like 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.680 or TikTok. It was like the opposite. And when I 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.360 was cravy, then I feel like they're all going way 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.520 too far in the other direction. Yeah, I think in 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.559 part because sexy has been working like really like the darker, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.320 sexier said, like Danielle's dance from the week before, Yeah, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.000 has been getting a reaction, and I think they're all 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.039 feeling a little pressure to be like let me be 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.520 dark and sexy lead. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.880 But it's weird to go scary not spooky, especially on ABC, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.200 like you figured to do somebody would do something spooky like. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.760 Just oh yeah, I'm a cat, like a little nothing. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.440 It was all like I died for it. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.200 It goes back to my criticism of the Disney week 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.280 way too good a makeup. Yeah, I don't want this. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.360 It's like, look, it looks real on camera. It's one 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.480 thing to look good during the dance and real, but 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.479 it is so really like those contacts were freaking me 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.480 out scared and it was like too much. I was like, 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.920 that's so distracting. I'm like I want to watch you dance, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.120 and like there were three partners that had contacts and 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.359 I wanted them all to take them off right away. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.520 And then like even like Dylan's like vainy neck thing 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.240 going up his head, like no, guys, it's looking and 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.719 the blood looked you real, Like when when what's it? 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:15.320 When rob Robbers? Like I was like dude, I was 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.000 in Cavin Fever. Take it off like no, like, this 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.960 is not good. It was true. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.560 It was dark and good and dark. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.240 After got a makeup, I just want to tell the 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.400 makeup team that you are amazing. You should all be 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.159 working in horror films. But for this make it more cartoony. Yeah, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.520 don't a little a little lighter, little more fun, little 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.240 for this stage. But they're playing it up for the 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:40.880 camera and it's real for me. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.279 I don't know, yah, yeah, yeah, no it was. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.120 But again, there were certain cool things, like some of 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.720 the ways they started the dances, like coming out of 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.200 the dirt. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.680 But I think I think the one who pulled it 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.080 off the best as far as the atmosphere was the 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.040 most playful and the only one that was, and that 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:01.760 was Andy. It was cinematic. Yep. It was so fun 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.200 and it felt like an actual movie with like atmosphere 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.360 and story and they started in black and white, involved 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.640 the camera moves. I was like, yes, and there was 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.200 something a little you know, it wasn't gory, it wasn't 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.120 like it was more like. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.560 Almost whimsical, scary whimsical, yes, which I thought. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.640 We were gonna get more of when we have to 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.240 start with a giant sparkly skull, which I was like, yeah, Halloween, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:27.120 let's go. And then immediately we get a Lane's injury announced, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.240 which I was like, oh, oh crap, this is this 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.440 is like what does this even mean? This sucks? Obviously 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.720 felt bad for her. Yeah, yeah, but you know, that 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.840 announcement immediately put me on edge and I was like, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.600 oh them, we're not gonna have much fun tonight. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.560 Yeah, and we didn't then our first our first dancwers. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.960 I kind of didn't know. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.400 I was on edge me too. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.360 This was an anxiety filled night. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.440 Yes, all right. First up was Whitney and Mark, who actually, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.440 now that I think about it, were maybe a little 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.560 light hearted, you know. I just got into the darkness 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.960 that later on. Yeah, but even they you know, they 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.760 started with you know, I guess a zombie theme. Right, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:09.480 there's zombies. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.200 They're like dead, I think, so, yeah, they're undead, but 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.080 like from a sanitarium. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.640 Yeah, I think there's supposed to be like a medical ward. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:17.920 So like. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.560 The dead isn't enough, You've got to be zombie day. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.160 It's like, come on. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.480 So the song was brain stew by Green Day. Yeah, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.360 great song, did I don't know this song. Are you 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.640 You're like a green Day fan? Huh? 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:32.520 I like Green Day, I do. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.120 I like I've like green Day from from before Dookie, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.280 which was their first real, real big one that hit. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.760 But yeah, I like the song. I liked just starting 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.560 with like the dunnet yea. It just kind of like 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.760 got you into the night, you. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.640 Know, totally totally and it's and it's it's it's rare 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.160 to have that kind of heavy hitting like music beats 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.560 with silence. It was great, man, this was fun. I 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.839 I just like both of them. I like both of 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.960 them as people. As dancers. I feel like they continue 0:08:59.960 --> 0:09:05.240 to show their personality and you know, just make great moves. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.040 Like but I did notice, and they commented on this 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:10.120 her timing wasn't a little. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.440 They're way out of sync. I like the look, I 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.600 like the style, I love the song. They're out of sync, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.839 I know. So if I can notice that they're out 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.720 of sync, how does that get a ten? 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.440 Well? You know what they do that almost better than 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.920 anybody else in this competition is they do really good moves. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.120 But they're also they always feel character based or emotion based, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.679 like it always comes from somewhere do you know what 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 I mean. And that's really hard to achieve because I 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.320 feel like people are either technically very good, like I 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.000 think Alex you know, the is an amazing technical dancer, 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.679 but it doesn't come from like inside emotional sort of 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.880 personality based or character based stuff. And these two are 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.600 both so good at that they're actually hitting. But you're right, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:54.720 sinc was off. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.560 I was off. And again, if you're if you're doing 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.840 a dance, it's like that's good. You know, looked great. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.760 I know it started the night. You probably got jitters. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.160 It's probably the Also you've got the adrenaline pumping, like 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.480 you just want to get going. But she was off, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.280 and so if you're or frankly or he was off, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.320 who knows they were off. So if that's the case, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.920 I get that. I still thought it was visually cool. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.440 I love that all of all of their moves because 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.640 again I always talk about them as a professional dancing team. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.080 All of their moves are very precise, like they're they 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.400 you know, when they hit a dance move like they're 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.280 they're finishing the move there. It's staccato when it needs 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.040 to be. It's all what it's supposed to be. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.440 It was out of sake, right, So you think does 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.720 that I kind of agree with you that that means 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.599 you should not be getting a ten. No, because it 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:40.560 is supposed to be perfect. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.319 That's the best you can get is a ten. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.959 So Bruno was just like way too impressed because it's 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:46.640 Bruno that gave him. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.120 Yeah, everye else gave them very generous all right. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.959 They were given nine to nine, nine and ten. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.480 Agree with the nines, Yeah, really yeah, I agree with 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.720 the Nines again. The way to start to show the 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.920 music the costumes. Like you said, they're both very good dancers, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.679 but you're out of sink. You don't get a perfect score. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.199 All right. Then we moved to Jordan and Ezra again 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.600 your face contacts and uh, you know, she really got 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:12.839 into the twitching this week. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.640 Yeah, I'll say every time she was on camera. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.840 She was like trying to be in character. It's like 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.840 this weird, twitchy zombie mummy person, which was at first 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.560 very funny, but then I was like, wow, this is 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.280 a this is a thing for you. You're like really 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:26.960 into character. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.520 You also mixing genres. Are you a zombie? Are you 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:30.320 a mummy? What are you? 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.319 Yeah? I think they couldn't do zombies because there's a 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.520 lot of undead things going on, so it's like, let's 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.320 add a mummy ish outfit that also maybe makes sense 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.200 of the harness. Yeah, this was a little off for me. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.760 The I thought the same I thought the rope was 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.880 there was a possibility of like, oh wow, we're going 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.920 to see something super cool with a gymnast attached to 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.320 a rope, like, oh my god, this is. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.920 And then it was just kind of in the week. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:58.480 One move that I thought was good was when he 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.960 split the rope and then flipped and she was able 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.400 to do the flip on her own, you know, but 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.480 made it look like he was like he was doing her. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.120 But that actually doesn't require anything like that could have 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.840 been just as good if you did it without a rope, 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.120 like if you just made a spell of yes. So 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.520 I didn't think they took advantage of it, like once 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.680 they're like flinging her around with the rope. I know 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.920 that it's difficult, but it just isn't as impressive to watch, right. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.480 It's also it's that's a huge risk because when he 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.240 pulls the rope at the like in the middle to 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.360 untie it if like something happens and that snags and 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.839 you've now got a rope on you for the rest 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.640 of the show, you're screwed. So that was that was 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.199 a risk, but it didn't fully pay off for me. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.839 No, because I think that whenever they like it's it's 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.120 interesting because she's so athletic and she's so capable of 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.000 big moves. But actually when they when they get away 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.559 from elegance, when they get away from more dancery stuff 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.560 and they get more like, it becomes less interesting, like 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.560 she's better with the pressure of like, let's be more 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.000 sort of traditional in some way. Yes, when they when 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.320 they get expressive, I'm less interested for some reason, even 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.679 though I know it's impressive what they're doing. I think 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.120 the judges were a little too kind on this one. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.320 I would have only gone eight's across the board. I 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.320 was like, and they give nines, you know, nine eight 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.600 eight nine, that's right. Yeah for me, it just I 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.040 don't know, man, it fell a little flat for me too, Yeah, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.360 it did, you know. I I actually in this case, 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.760 I was judging their creativity. I was like, guys, if 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.320 you're going to involve a harness, do something more interesting 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.160 with it, and and they didn't. But then Also, it 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.679 wasn't like crazy technically so difficult or so like that 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.520 that the story, you know, like I would just forgive 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.280 a like weird sort of half story because of these 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.720 amazing moves. No, it was just kind of in between 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.480 on both, right, So I was like, I don't. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.040 Know, do you think the other thing I was wondering 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:56.160 just from a personality standpoint, Yeah, she her entire life 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.840 has obviously been competition. Competition, competition. That's what she was 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.679 born to do. It's what she's really great at. It 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.760 also can come across as cold, yes, because it's like 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.679 I am here to win, That's what I'm here to do. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.319 Do you think that's gonna hurt her. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.160 In the long run. I think it's hurting her already, Yeah, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:18.360 because I think, yeah, she's approaching this as an athlete, 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.880 as a gymnast, as a competitor, and I think if 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.880 you didn't have pre show packages and post show packages, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.200 she would be doing way better. I disagree, and I 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.120 don't I like her in the pre show package because 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.200 I feel like there's a lack of Honestly, yeah, there's 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.000 a lack of presentation that I find so engaging and 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.360 actually very cool because she's much more like, this is 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.440 my job. What do I gotta do? I don't care 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.600 what people think about me. But I think that that 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.160 was maybe part of my problem this week is that 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.200 in the pre show she started talking about depression, and 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.000 she starts talking about her emotions, which I understand is 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.240 coming from a genuine place. But then when the performance, honestly, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.800 it didn't feel emotional. It felt like performative emotion. It 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.400 actually like if I had not seen the pre show package, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.240 I would have been more like, I would have been 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.000 more invested emotionally, I guess, because as it was, I 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.800 was like, it didn't feel And that's not that's not 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.520 a knock. It's just why are you trying to make 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.880 this about more than what it's actually about? Like for 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.920 I think for her it's actually just about dancing well 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.240 and winning, which is cool, but like she can't say 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.560 that necessarily, you know what I mean, She's got to 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.320 make it about a personal journey, and that's you know, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.080 That's my problem with this whole show in general, is 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.360 all the pre show and post interview stuff just feels 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.920 so banal to me. It's so banal. It's it's either 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.600 performative or it's just like it's very rare that, you know, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.120 unless it's like the dedication night, which, like I said, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.440 I cried most of the time. It's like Disneyland's Fun 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.960 Halloween is scary. Sometimes it is. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.080 It also, though it also gets a little a little 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.560 false sentimental, where it's almost like, let's let's all sit down, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.000 and you almost hear the producer or director and you 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.960 know this isn't happening, but you also you just hear 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.160 them in their head, like, is there something more personal 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.000 you could talk about, like if you lost a pet 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.080 this week exactly? 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:07.840 Maybe we talk about something like that. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.120 Also, also, would it be fine if the pre show 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:16.120 package began something like that? And then what's her name? 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.200 The host when she does the wrap up after the 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.080 dance could ask anything interesting that develops it. Instead, what 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.400 she tends to do is repeat like a question she 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.360 asked them, a question that just allows them to repeat 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.160 what they said in the pre show package, yeah, or 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.680 a pre dance package, And it's like, dude, ask something more, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.440 ask them more. You know you said that sometimes you've 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.880 battled depression, talk about that. You already heard this, and 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.080 so inevitably what they say in the beginning. It's like 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.480 it's every week they just get to deliver a two 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.840 sentence like thing and it's like, I have struggle with 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.800 depression or I'm feeling this way about this, and then 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.960 they just repeat it again and I'm like, develop it. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.240 Why are we showing this? Why are we having this conversation? 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.400 And it's frankly, it feels like we're killing time, which 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.000 is all we are doing because we're waiting for the judge. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.480 But I think a real like a better host, in 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.520 my opinion, would take what they're hearing the person present 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.080 before the dance and after the dance find a way 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.560 to like develop it and not just say like, it 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.480 seems like you really like your mom, Yes, I dedicated 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.160 the dance to her. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:25.000 Yeah okay, but sorry, yeah you really like your Mom's like. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:31.000 You dance with a harness. Yeah okay, yeah, I agree. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.520 I just gave nine eight eight nine. I do love 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.280 Jordan and Ezra. I do want them to stay. I 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:38.960 feel like this week was all they could have been 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:39.359 judged a. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.680 Little harshirt and yeah, I think I think if you 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.480 if you set up that you're wearing giant trapeze wires 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.040 and then don't do anything trapezy, then I feel like 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:49.920 you've screwed me a bit. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.840 So yeah, all right, next up Andy Richter and the 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:58.360 Slater Man. He just keeps plucking away, this guy, he does. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.120 And you know, this is where this is the perfect 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.639 example of the pre show package saving you every week 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.280 because he's so likable, Like even Susan. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.399 We're sitting on the couch and he comes on and 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.719 we sit up a little straighter. We start laughing. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.720 He's funny, he's tongue in cheek, he's looking at the camera. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.320 You want to vote for this guy? 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.840 I don't even need to see the dance. It's like, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:21.000 all right, I'll vote for him. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.199 I know, And I think so it's funny because he 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:29.680 actually he doesn't like and this is not a knock 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.399 on him, but like you are an incredibly witty, clever person, 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.840 like you actually say things that just if I saw 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:39.119 them written, are so funny. He's not actually that like, 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.280 he's not like a he's just kind of like a 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.879 presence that's positive, do you know what I mean? Like 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.639 you just like him? Yes, it's just like a natural 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.600 charisma and a natural sort of like normal guyness. Yeah, 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:56.879