WEBVTT - Jan Ernst Matzeliger

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Frye and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. The shoes that you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing today likely were made possible by an invention from

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteenth century, unless you're wearing like ballet slippers

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<v Speaker 1>or very fancy handmade shoes, right, or something that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have like an upper and a soul, which I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>is possible if you're a medieval reenactor, or there are

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<v Speaker 1>other outlier cases. But the thing is, most of us

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<v Speaker 1>are wearing shoes that are made possible by this inventor

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<v Speaker 1>from the late nineteenth century. And that inventor of the

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<v Speaker 1>machine that made that possible had little to no formal education,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't really get to enjoy the fruits of

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<v Speaker 1>his labor. And he's one of those people that unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're a shoe person, you might not know about. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about jan Ernst Matzalaiger today. Jan Ernst Matzelager

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<v Speaker 1>was born on September fifteenth, eighteen fifty two, in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Paramaribo in Dutch Guiana in South America. So

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<v Speaker 1>today that is in Surinam, and this city is its capital.

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<v Speaker 1>Jan's father was Dutch and his mother was a Serenemese

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<v Speaker 1>black woman. Several but not all, sources note that his

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<v Speaker 1>mother was enslaved to his father. Jan's father was in

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch Guiana at the behest of the Dutch government. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an engineer and his job there was to manage

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<v Speaker 1>various business interests and especially factories controlled by the government

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<v Speaker 1>that ran heavy machinery. Jan lived with an aunt on

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<v Speaker 1>his father's side of the family, starting at age three.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of biographical sketches of Yon that

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<v Speaker 1>say that he would occasionally make the rounds of factories

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<v Speaker 1>with his father as a child, and that he was

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to the various pieces of machinery he saw, which

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes it sound sort of idyllic. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in those factories at a very young age, but the

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<v Speaker 1>reality was that was because he was put to work

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<v Speaker 1>at age ten apprenticing for a machinist. He is said

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<v Speaker 1>to have shown a lot of intuitive engineering skill from

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<v Speaker 1>a very young age, and he was able to repair

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<v Speaker 1>machinery he wasn't all that familiar with with very little instruction.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was nineteen, Jan left Dutch Guiana by getting

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<v Speaker 1>work on an East India merchant ship. For two years,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked on the ship and he traveled, but when

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<v Speaker 1>he arrived in Philadelphia, he decided to stay there for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. It's believed that he spent some time in

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia as a cobbler before moving on to Boston, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in eighteen seventy three, Mattzlagger arrived in Lynn, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>where he would live for the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>When Matzlagger arrived in Lynn, it had a population of

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty five thousand and it was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main places in the United States where shoes were made,

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<v Speaker 1>so eventually he found work in a shoe factory. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a number of roles in the factory, starting

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<v Speaker 1>on a soul sewing machine and then a heel burnisher,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually onto a buttonhole machine, probably others as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and to supplement his factory income, he also drove a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>During those early years in the United States, Yan had

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<v Speaker 1>to learn English and to recognize the restrictions that racism

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<v Speaker 1>placed on his movements. One story from his time early

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<v Speaker 1>on is that he tried to go to a church,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was turned away from that church because he

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<v Speaker 1>was black. He did eventually find a church, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the North Congregational Church, and a community there in their

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Endeavor Society, which was a youth group. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>church became very important to his life. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>driving a coach in his off hours, Yon also started

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<v Speaker 1>formally studying English at evening classes several nights a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and with these structured lessons, he soon progressed really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it said that he not only learned to read

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<v Speaker 1>and speak English, but that when he spoke, he had

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<v Speaker 1>no perceivable accent. And as his English improved, he became

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<v Speaker 1>more and more involved in his church. He started teaching

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday school and serving on various committees, and he also

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<v Speaker 1>settled into life in the Greater Lynn community, and he

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<v Speaker 1>soon built up this reputation as a gentleman with a

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<v Speaker 1>very keen wit and a lot of kindness for others.

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<v Speaker 1>Once Jan was proficient in English, he kept working to

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<v Speaker 1>expand his education. He started acquiring all kinds of books,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly scientific works. He learned about natural sciences and physics,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon he started tinkering with various inventions. It's possible

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<v Speaker 1>that some of these were successful and were eventually patented,

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<v Speaker 1>but those patents would have been held by Matzlagger's employers.

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<v Speaker 1>They helped him pay for the supplies that he needed. Y. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of variation on what you will find

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what people think he invented during that time,

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<v Speaker 1>which surely I did not include them because it's all speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever he may have done in his early inventiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>it was his work in shoe manufacturing that was the

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<v Speaker 1>most important. And this reveals an interesting state in the

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture of shoes that had been the case for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. There were mechanized processes for just about

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<v Speaker 1>every step of shoe manufacture by the mid nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of the step known as lasting. So

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<v Speaker 1>lasting is the stage of construction when the stitch together

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<v Speaker 1>and more or less completed upper is shaped into its

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<v Speaker 1>final form and then joined to the soul. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the early half of the nineteenth centuries, machines had been

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<v Speaker 1>developed they could handle literally all of the other steps,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mattzalager was familiar with all of those machines because

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<v Speaker 1>he worked on most, if not all, of the available

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<v Speaker 1>ones of the factory. But no one had been able

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<v Speaker 1>to mechanize lasting. There are some good reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have heard the term shoe last as a noun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the form often made of wood that is made

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<v Speaker 1>to mimic the shape of a human foot, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>what the finished upper is stretched over and formed on

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<v Speaker 1>so that when you put the shoe on, it fits correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Lasts are still part of shoe manufacture. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>wondered why some brands of shoes usually fit you better

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<v Speaker 1>than other ones, it's because different companies use different lasts.

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<v Speaker 1>With all the variations in foot shapes that humans have,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them will match up to any given person's

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<v Speaker 1>foot better than the others. This is also why sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>a shoe you've been wearing for years can betray you

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<v Speaker 1>because a new last has been selected to form an

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<v Speaker 1>on right. If you buy the newest model, it may

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<v Speaker 1>not be the same last as the old one, just

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<v Speaker 1>as in a side that like. You can still have

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<v Speaker 1>custom shoes made with a custom last sure where they

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<v Speaker 1>will cast your foot and you get shoes that are

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<v Speaker 1>made specifically just for you. And there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that going on in the nineteenth century when Mattzlagger

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<v Speaker 1>was working, but he was focused on the industrial production

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes. So in the eighteen seventies, when mattz Lagger

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<v Speaker 1>started working in these shoe factories, skilled cobblers were still

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<v Speaker 1>the ones to fit the upper of a shoe over

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<v Speaker 1>the last, carefully shape it to that form, and then

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<v Speaker 1>attach it to the sole with nails. And that human

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<v Speaker 1>finishing was kind of a necessity because leather, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what the vast majority of shoes were made from, has

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<v Speaker 1>natural variables in it. Even two cuts of leather taken

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<v Speaker 1>from the exact same animal hide and treated with the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same processes might have different thicknesses, or may have

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<v Speaker 1>different tendencies in different spots when it to stretch in flexibility.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the careful shaping that had to be

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<v Speaker 1>done taking these variables into account, the right and left

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<v Speaker 1>shoe had to match perfectly, and they had to be

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly joined to the soul. So there were plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>people in the industry who really believed that there would

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<v Speaker 1>always have to be a pair of human hands doing

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<v Speaker 1>the finishing on shoes. But this also created a workflow

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<v Speaker 1>problem because when all of those other parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>process were mechanized, but the finish wasn't, that meant that

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<v Speaker 1>shoe pieces would kind of pile up, and you had

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<v Speaker 1>this bottleneck unless you had just a huge team of

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<v Speaker 1>people who had the skill to handle lasting. We will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how manufacturers were trying to address this issue

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<v Speaker 1>after we pause for a sponsor break. There were plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of people trying to come up with a machine that

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<v Speaker 1>could last shoe but there just wasn't anything working. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time Matt Selager was in the industry, they had

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<v Speaker 1>been trying for decades and the best that had come

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<v Speaker 1>of it were kind of near misses or machines that

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<v Speaker 1>could sort of do the job, but they weren't much

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<v Speaker 1>faster than a manual finish, so there wasn't really a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of impetus to adopt them. Gordon McKay, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a businessman responsible for many of the machines in the industry,

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to corner the lasting market by purchasing just about

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<v Speaker 1>all of the existing patents that people had filed for

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<v Speaker 1>various parts of it and kind of throwing a load

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<v Speaker 1>of money at research and development. He was also very

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<v Speaker 1>very ligitious with any competitors, but that wasn't really worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>because while his efforts did eventually produce a lasting machine.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only able to handle certain types of shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the results even within that set of certain types

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes were not consistent. And as these mechanization efforts

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<v Speaker 1>were underway, the lasters in the industry unionized in eighteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were able to force the companies they worked

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<v Speaker 1>for to give them significant pay increases because it had

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<v Speaker 1>become deeply apparent that without them the whole system would

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<v Speaker 1>fall apart. This unionization only spurred manufacturers to want a

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<v Speaker 1>lasting machine so they could step around the last's union

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<v Speaker 1>and its relatively high weekly salary arrangement. We say relatively

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<v Speaker 1>because they were being paid what they deserved, but compared

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<v Speaker 1>to other people in the industry, they were getting more.

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<v Speaker 1>As Massachusetts and specifically Lynn were an epicenter of the

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<v Speaker 1>shoe industry, Yon Matzalager had a front row seat to

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<v Speaker 1>all of this playing out, and he thought that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>he could make a machine that could finish shoes. He

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<v Speaker 1>started working through ideas for such a machine in the

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<v Speaker 1>evenings when he wasn't working either of his jobs or

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<v Speaker 1>seeing to any of his charch activities. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>study mechanical engineering to even know where to start, and

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<v Speaker 1>he acquired a set of drafting tools secondhand to start

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<v Speaker 1>making diagrams. He didn't try to build on the previous

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<v Speaker 1>efforts of other engineers because those were not working. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>he started by making a study of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>were lasting shoes by hand. He observed them whenever he

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<v Speaker 1>could and made detailed notes about how their hands moved

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<v Speaker 1>through each step of the process. Six months later he

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<v Speaker 1>had produced his first prototype. And this effort at making

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<v Speaker 1>a prototype was really a case of making do with

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<v Speaker 1>what he had on hand, because Mattzelager did not have

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<v Speaker 1>much money, so he used discarded goods and made his

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<v Speaker 1>prototype out of things like cigar boxes and wire offcuts

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<v Speaker 1>that had been thrown away so that he could put

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<v Speaker 1>it together. But this was really just a proof of concept.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not intended to be a working piece of machinery.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wanted to see if he had gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>motions right before he attempted to build an iron version

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<v Speaker 1>of his mechanism. Initially, he was as with his proof

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<v Speaker 1>of com gathering cast off materials to try to make

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<v Speaker 1>that iron version work. But then he had a stroke

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<v Speaker 1>of luck when he was hired as a maintenance machinist

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<v Speaker 1>for one of Lynn's Shoe manufacturers, and he was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to claim a small workspace in the plant there where

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<v Speaker 1>he could work on his personal project and had access

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<v Speaker 1>to some better materials. So there's some incongruity in the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts in terms of whether people knew what he was

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<v Speaker 1>up to, because we don't really have his own account.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are secondhand versions that are often intended to

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<v Speaker 1>frame the story in a particular way. Usually they involve

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<v Speaker 1>people mocking him or secretly thinking he was a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that's universally recognized was that Jon Matzlagger was

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<v Speaker 1>driven in pursuit of this invention. Two women who worked

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<v Speaker 1>with them at the factory realized that he was skipping

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<v Speaker 1>meals to work on his project in this little space

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<v Speaker 1>that he was in, and they started sharing their meals

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<v Speaker 1>with him. He worked on getting this right for four years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those two women became very good friends of his. He

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<v Speaker 1>attended their weddings. They were like his work buddies, and

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<v Speaker 1>they all took care of each other and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet. But once he had a functioning model, Matzelager

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<v Speaker 1>realized that he still needed money. The machine was more

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<v Speaker 1>or less built, but there were other steps in the

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<v Speaker 1>process that were going to need capital, like running tests

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<v Speaker 1>with the machine and filing for a patent, and he

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to potential investors, but most of them just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to purchase his ideas, or in some cases they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to purchase just parts of his machine, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was not interested in either of those outcomes. Eventually, he

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<v Speaker 1>did find financing in the form of a business partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>Two men, Charles H. Delnow and Melville C. Nichols, offered

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<v Speaker 1>to finance and start a company with Mattzlager in exchange

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<v Speaker 1>for a three way split of the profits. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>their investment, Yan was able to complete his patent application.

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<v Speaker 1>The patent application was submitted January twenty fourth, eighteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and it read, in part quote, heretofore devices have been

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<v Speaker 1>contrived for performing a part of the operation, such as

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<v Speaker 1>holding the last in proper position and drawing the leather

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<v Speaker 1>over the last, while the nailing was done by hand.

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<v Speaker 1>In my machine, I perform all the operations by the

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<v Speaker 1>machine and automatically, requiring only the service of a boy

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<v Speaker 1>or girl or unskilled labor to attend the machine. My

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<v Speaker 1>invention includes a mechanism for holding the last in place

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<v Speaker 1>and allowing it to be turned and the last fed

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<v Speaker 1>forward in proper position for the operation of the machine.

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<v Speaker 1>It includes a feeding device for moving the last step

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<v Speaker 1>by step at a proper distance, whereby the mechanism for

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<v Speaker 1>drawing over the leather may operate successfully and at proper intervals.

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<v Speaker 1>It includes pincher or gripping mechanism for drawing the upper

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<v Speaker 1>over the last, mechanism for turning the gripping mechanism in

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<v Speaker 1>order to plat the leather at the heel or toe,

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism for holding the last in proper position for the

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<v Speaker 1>operation of the feeding mechanism, mechanism for feeding the nails

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<v Speaker 1>and holding them in proper position to be driven, and

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism for driving the nails at the proper instant. The

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<v Speaker 1>details of construction are all fully set forth here and after,

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<v Speaker 1>and together with the principles of my invention, are stated

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<v Speaker 1>in the claims, so in case that slightly stilted language

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<v Speaker 1>is unclear, the machine could pull the leather down over

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<v Speaker 1>a last, plead it at the toe to fit around

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<v Speaker 1>the last, and then it would grip the last with

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<v Speaker 1>the leather upper on it while positioning it over the

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<v Speaker 1>sole nail. The two of them together and then eject

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<v Speaker 1>the shoe completed. But when he submitted this patent application

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<v Speaker 1>in his documentation, it said that it kind of stumped

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<v Speaker 1>officials at the US Patent Office. There wasn't anything wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with the paperwork. It was just unique enough and complex

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<v Speaker 1>enough that a patent official had to be sent to

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn to inspect the machine himself to make sure he

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<v Speaker 1>knew what Mattzalaiger had created before he approved it for

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<v Speaker 1>a patent. So that excerpt that I made poor Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>just read includes a lot of steps for one machine.

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<v Speaker 1>So it may have seemed a bit unreal to patent experts.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's particularly so when you consider that up to

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<v Speaker 1>this point, the majority of people were like, no one

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<v Speaker 1>is ever going to be able to invent a machine

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<v Speaker 1>that does this. So this visit though to Lynn must

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<v Speaker 1>have done the trick, because on March twentieth, eighteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Mattzaliger received a patent for his invention. When I read this,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a moment where I was like, this seems

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<v Speaker 1>like more more effort to get the patents approved than

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the patents we have talked about. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, they were just like I'm sorry, what sir, Yeah. Next,

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.000
<v Speaker 1>there had to be factory tests to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the machine laster worked. It took two years after the

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<v Speaker 1>patent was granted for Matzlager to build a second model

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<v Speaker 1>that would be ready for these kinds of tests, But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of May of eighteen eighty five, Mattzlager's

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<v Speaker 1>invention was put through its paces. It turned out seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five perfectly finished pairs of shoes. After the success, things

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<v Speaker 1>moved very quickly, so quickly, in fact, that it gets

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<v Speaker 1>hard to track the business deals that were made in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of this success. Beyond and his partners had

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.320
<v Speaker 1>formed a company, but they needed bigger investors so they

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<v Speaker 1>could produce the machines at the scale that was needed

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<v Speaker 1>to meet this instant market interest. Soon George W. Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and Sydney W. Winslow were partners and the company was

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<v Speaker 1>reorganized as the Consolidated Lasting Machine Company. Consolidated as a

0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:01.040
<v Speaker 1>business owned the rights to Matzalauger's patent, and Matzelagger got

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<v Speaker 1>a large chunk of the company stock. Consolidated Lasting Machine

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<v Speaker 1>Company got up and running with the staff of two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty five workers to build Lasting machines and

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly demand to outpace their output, as is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>common whenever there's a revolutionary invention, and Matzeliger's laster definitely

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was that. There were imitations. Many inventors sought to replicate

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the consolidated lasting machine, but nobody was really able to.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that no one else seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>ever get right was creating a machine that could complete

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<v Speaker 1>all of the steps that Mattzaligers did while still handling

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<v Speaker 1>the leather with care. Many of the imitation machines lost

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<v Speaker 1>product due to tears and punctures in the material. At

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<v Speaker 1>a time when the average number of pairs of shoes

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<v Speaker 1>produced by an artisan laster working by hand was about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty in a day, one of Matt's Laige's machines, working

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<v Speaker 1>at its slowest, could make one hundred and fifty. That

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<v Speaker 1>number was dependent on the style of the shoe and

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<v Speaker 1>how fancy or intricate its design was. For simpler shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>the machine could make as many as seven hundred pairs

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<v Speaker 1>in a day, But of course this was not good

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<v Speaker 1>news for the people who had been making their living

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<v Speaker 1>as hand lasters. The rapid adoption of this machine by

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<v Speaker 1>shoe manufacturers meant that there needed to be people to

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<v Speaker 1>run them, and there was even a school set up

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<v Speaker 1>by the consolidated Lasting Machine Company to train people. Many

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that went through that training had been

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<v Speaker 1>hand lasters, but you'll recall that mattz Lager's patent language

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<v Speaker 1>specifically noted that a boy or a girl or an

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<v Speaker 1>unskilled laborer could handle running the machine. That meant the

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<v Speaker 1>factories felt like the wages for Lasting Machine operators could

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot lower than what the lasters had been

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<v Speaker 1>making when they were doing all that work by hand.

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<v Speaker 1>The lasters were not against the use of Matzealiger's machine

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<v Speaker 1>for those who transitioned from hand lasting to operating them.

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<v Speaker 1>They recognized that their job was less strenuous, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were against the way that it was being used to

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<v Speaker 1>justify a reduction of their wages. In the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty seven, one factory W. L. Douglas Company had

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<v Speaker 1>a strike. The lasters wanted an advance paid on the

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<v Speaker 1>work they were doing, and they wanted an agreement in

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<v Speaker 1>place that only union members would run the Lasting machines.

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<v Speaker 1>This strike was reported in the Daily Item, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the local paper for Lynn, on August eighth. It reads,

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<v Speaker 1>quote the forty lasters employed at the factory of W. L.

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas in Brockton quit work Saturday morning because of the

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement between the lasters union and mister Douglas regarding the prices,

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<v Speaker 1>and also because of two non union men being employed

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<v Speaker 1>on the Lasting machines. Mister Douglas said that morning that

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<v Speaker 1>the trouble was caused by the Lasting machines, which he

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<v Speaker 1>had recently put into his factory. He said that last

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<v Speaker 1>Monday he brought up from Plymouth two men to work

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<v Speaker 1>on the machines, as he intended to put one half

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<v Speaker 1>union and the other half non union men on the machines.

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<v Speaker 1>The men were paid two dollars and fifty cents a day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about the same price they received for hand lasting.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Douglas states that he does not intend to allow

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<v Speaker 1>the union to control the machines so as this write

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<v Speaker 1>up continues, though, it reports that Douglas was actually planning

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<v Speaker 1>to use only non union men going forward on the

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<v Speaker 1>Lasting machines, but that he will still give handwork to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who wants it. That article states quote, all lasters

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<v Speaker 1>who wish to return to work on Monday will be

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<v Speaker 1>given employment, and all who do not return will consider

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<v Speaker 1>themselves discharged. Those who do not return will never be

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<v Speaker 1>employed again by him. Of course, if they came in,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be paid at a lower rate. Though this

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<v Speaker 1>was the first of several lasters strike in Lin and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>the messaging of the lasters Union always made clear that

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't anti mechanization, They just wanted fair wages, and

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<v Speaker 1>in a refreshing turn of events, they actually got them.

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<v Speaker 1>The union managed to negotiate for the laster's pay to

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<v Speaker 1>move back up to where it had been before the

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<v Speaker 1>Lasting machine came into the factories, and for the machines

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<v Speaker 1>to be run only by union members. Maybe even more

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<v Speaker 1>surprising is that Yon Matzalager was never the target in

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<v Speaker 1>any of these conflicts, and once the lasters were back

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<v Speaker 1>at the factories running the machines, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>noted that they were quite happy running them. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot less backbreaking than hunching over a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes and having to do that fifty times a day.

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<v Speaker 1>In a moment, we're going to talk about what Yon

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<v Speaker 1>Matzalaiger was up to while the Laster's Union and the

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<v Speaker 1>factories were figuring out their conflict. But first, we will

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<v Speaker 1>hear from the sponsors that keep the show going. While

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<v Speaker 1>the strikes and union negotiations were playing out, Matzelager was

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<v Speaker 1>still busy perfecting new iterations of the machine and coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with completely new ideas. He became very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>motors and perpetual motion machines. But though his curiosity and

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>ingenuity were still running at full tilt, his health was failing.

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<v Speaker 1>He had first come down with a cold in eighteen

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty six, but that cold never seemed to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept working through it, but he also just kept

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<v Speaker 1>getting worse, and what he had thought was a persistent

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 1>cold was eventually diagnosed as tuberculosis. Things progressed to a

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<v Speaker 1>point that it really wasn't even feasible for Yan to

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<v Speaker 1>live by himself. He had become really weak and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>was too ill to even leave the house. He depended

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<v Speaker 1>on his friends to take care of him, and he

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>also took care of them. In a return. He purchased

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<v Speaker 1>a home for his friends, mister and Missus William Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lived there with them in his final years.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he really couldn't get out of the house, he

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>was not living in isolation. Through his church and his

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>friendly demeanor, Matzlagger had built up a devoted community of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were always stopping by the house to visit

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.959
<v Speaker 1>and see what he had been working on. Outside of

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 1>engineering and machinery, Yan's other interest was painting. He had

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>taken it up early in his life, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>gifted friends some of his work over the years, But

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<v Speaker 1>as he became weaker and weaker and unable to do

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<v Speaker 1>as much work with his machinery, he continued to paint,

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<v Speaker 1>including painting landscapes of Dutch Guiana as he remembered it

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>from his childhood. In the spring of eighteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Matslagger made out his will. He was hospitalized in

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<v Speaker 1>August of that year, and he died on August twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Was only thirty seven years old, and while he had

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<v Speaker 1>completely changed an entire industry, he had not really gotten

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to see the impact of his work. His obituary in

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<v Speaker 1>the Linn Paper read, in part quote, he was an exemplary,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>big hearted young man and had many friends in this city.

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<v Speaker 1>The lasting machine he worked so hard to perfect has

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>much merit to it, and there are many of them

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in use. The money that Yan had made through his

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<v Speaker 1>business dealings was left to the community that had cared

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<v Speaker 1>for him right from his arrival in Lynn. He left

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<v Speaker 1>the North Congregational Church all of his interests in the

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<v Speaker 1>Union Lasting Machine Company and one third of his stock

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<v Speaker 1>in Consolidated Lasting, and the church held onto that stock

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>for decades. He wanted the money the church made from

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<v Speaker 1>that second batch the Consolidated Lasting Company stock to provide

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<v Speaker 1>for Lynn's poor community, regardless of their religious affiliation. He

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<v Speaker 1>also left specific financial and material gifts, include his extensive

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<v Speaker 1>library for several of the young people in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>with provisions to pay for their education. He also left

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<v Speaker 1>stock to the medical professionals who had cared for him

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in his prolonged illness, and he left the rest of

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>his business holdings to fifteen of his closest friends. He

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<v Speaker 1>left a handful of personal effects and paintings to his

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>friends as well. Although Yan had died, his invention lived on.

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Almost immediately after his passing. New engineers were assigned by

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<v Speaker 1>Consolidated Lasting to finish the work he had been doing

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<v Speaker 1>on a fourth version of a Lasting machine. Consolidated Lasting

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<v Speaker 1>used Matz Lagger's patents to corner the market on machine lasting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also acquired a lot of those shoe manufacturing

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>companies in Massachusetts and around the Northeast, including the company

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<v Speaker 1>that made the first shoemaking machine that Mattzlager had trained on.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the McKay Copeland Company. McKay had spent a

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<v Speaker 1>great deal of money in the years prior to Mattzlager's

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>lasting machine, buying up patents that seemed like promising steps

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>toward totally mechanized shoe manufacture, and he remained an important

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>player in the industry. The men whom Jan had partnered

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>with in the early days of production all got just

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>ridiculously rich thanks to his ingenuity. United Shoe Machine Corporation,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>which built the machines that were then sent to factories,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>had a massive growth spurt in eighteen ninety nine, having

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<v Speaker 1>absorbed forty one smaller facilities in the course of just

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<v Speaker 1>a few years. Sidney Winslow, one of Jan's partners you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember from earlier, became the president of that company,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was soon regarded as the King of shoe machinery.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the many men to benefit from Mattzalauger's invention,

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon McKay, who he just mentioned, founded a school for

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<v Speaker 1>black boys in Rhode Island as a way to honor

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<v Speaker 1>Yan who had never had any formal schooling beyond a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of elementary school. As noted by biographer Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>Kaplan in the Journal of Negro History in nineteen fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>quote what Mattzelagger did for his country and for humanity, however,

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<v Speaker 1>can hardly be measured in a quantity of dollars, For

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<v Speaker 1>his invention has gone down in history as one of

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<v Speaker 1>those fundamental contributions. Then, the long run, will have made

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<v Speaker 1>work easier for men and women by producing more swiftly

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<v Speaker 1>and efficiently a basic article of human need. He had

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<v Speaker 1>created something that had made quality footwear available to a

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<v Speaker 1>much larger portion of the public by creating a machine

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<v Speaker 1>that was so efficient that it increased production to a

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<v Speaker 1>massive degree and also drove down the cost of shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>By the beginning of the twentieth century, there were two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty shoe factories in Linn and in the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding area, and they were churning out a million pairs

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes every day. The industry's income reportedly in increased

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<v Speaker 1>by three hundred and fifty percent as a direct result

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<v Speaker 1>of the lasting machine's introduction, the inventor received a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of posthumous accolades. In nineteen oh one, Jan Matzlager was

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<v Speaker 1>honored at the Pan American Exposition held in Buffalo, New York.

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<v Speaker 1>He was again posthumously given a gold medal and he

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<v Speaker 1>was given an honorary diploma in recognition of his achievements

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<v Speaker 1>and his commitment to his self directed education. On September fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, a twenty nine cent postage stamp was

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<v Speaker 1>issued that featured Matts Lagger. It was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Heritage stamp series and the stamp portrait, designed by

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara Higgins Bond, features Matts Lagger in the foreground with

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<v Speaker 1>diagrams from his Lasting Machine patent in the background. And

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<v Speaker 1>then recently, in autumn of twenty twenty three, a shoe

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<v Speaker 1>brand called Gems by Pencol launched. It was founded by

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<v Speaker 1>doctor d Wayne Edwards, who has designed footwear for huge

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<v Speaker 1>brands over the years. You are a sneakerhead. You know

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<v Speaker 1>his name, but the name of his company, Gems, is

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to Jan Ernst Mattzealiger. That j Em is

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<v Speaker 1>his initials, and that's Jan Mattzaliger who I'm personally thankful

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<v Speaker 1>for because I love shoes. Okay, do you have listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail for us? I do. I have two pieces because

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<v Speaker 1>they're brief. The first is from our listener Scott, who writes,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Holly and Tracy. On my visit to the Boston

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<v Speaker 1>MFA today, I stopped by to see Patrick Lyon at

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<v Speaker 1>the Forge photo attached for proof. So he went to

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<v Speaker 1>see the portrait that Patrick Lyon had made of himself,

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<v Speaker 1>which he did not want to portray him as a

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<v Speaker 1>fancy rich man. And then Scott also attached to pet

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<v Speaker 1>tacks of his pug, Clementine, who is redonka doodle in

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<v Speaker 1>the best way. Clementine looks like a gun to plush.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I when I read this email, I was

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<v Speaker 1>scrolling down and I was like, oh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've probably seen that painting in the MFA, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have been to the MFA a number of times.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as I kept scrolling, even though I had

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<v Speaker 1>read the email and I knew it was coming, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a moment where I was like, why are there

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<v Speaker 1>dog toys on the floor at the MFA? Because picture

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<v Speaker 1>number two was not taken at the MFA. Correct, but

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<v Speaker 1>they do the way they line up in our email,

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<v Speaker 1>they make it look like it's like one heuge super immach.

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<v Speaker 1>The other email that I want to note is from

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<v Speaker 1>our listener Rob. It has a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>time limit on it, so I'm hoping that this can

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<v Speaker 1>benefit some of our listeners. Rob writes, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea if either of you will be anywhere near New

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<v Speaker 1>York City in the next month, but I just learned

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<v Speaker 1>there is an off Broadway show about Artemisia Gentileski playing

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty nine E fifty nine. Since I learned about

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<v Speaker 1>her from you two, I feel obligated to bring it

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<v Speaker 1>to your attention. There's also an interview that he links

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<v Speaker 1>us to with the author and co star Kate Hamill

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday's episode of the Today on Broadway podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>email was written on November sixteenth, so I think when

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<v Speaker 1>this episode comes out there will still be time to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Rob also writes, I hope you are enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the fall dessert season. I have modified my Pumpkin crack

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<v Speaker 1>slash Pumpkin dump Cake dessert that you feature two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago to be friendlier to diabetics, as I am now

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<v Speaker 1>among their number who knew there is now sugar free

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<v Speaker 1>yellow cake mix. Between that and Stevia Baking Blend, I

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<v Speaker 1>can still take part in small portions. Rob I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to read this one because if any of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are near there and want to check that play out,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds amazing. And two just to say I feel you,

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<v Speaker 1>not me, but my beloved has been dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>new world of having to really be careful about sugar, insulin, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that you found ways to adapt. I

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<v Speaker 1>also think it's just a good reminder to people. This

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<v Speaker 1>is PSA. If you can manage it, please get your

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<v Speaker 1>regular health screenings, because you can catch those things early

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<v Speaker 1>before they've become a problem. I know that's not easy

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody, but if you have access, please do it.

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