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Speaker 2: Alex Furman. I'm Andy Furman. How in the hell did

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 2: As some people of importance?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's great to be back here in the studio

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Speaker 4: with you. This is our what our third time around?

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Speaker 4: I get such by the way, Jeff Schwartz is not here,

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Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartzeff Swartz today taking the day off. Third time

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Speaker 4: around town here Dad, and I suppose something is going right.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe the listeners like it, you know, so

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, you know, I wrote a pity

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Speaker 3: letter and I think they liked it.

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Speaker 2: I'm grass. I don't know about that. I said, I

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Speaker 2: got two questions, two questions a fore you. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna make it easy for you today. All right, this

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Speaker 2: is gonna be tell you're in the hot seat today.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a couple of things I want to

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Speaker 2: know to him bugging me since the fourth of July,

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Speaker 2: since I watched that stupid hot dog getting and I

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Speaker 2: did watch it. The hot dog getting contest is the

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Speaker 2: most grotest disgusting thing in the world of entertainment. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to use the term sport because I'm

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Speaker 2: going to ask you right now in your mind, what

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Speaker 2: is the definition of sport? What is it? Because they

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Speaker 2: claim that this Joey Chester hot dog getting contest deal

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Speaker 2: is sports. Joey George Chestnut, he wins the sixteenth Mustard

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Speaker 2: Belt on the fourth of July for the Nathan's Hot

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Speaker 2: Dog Getting Contest. He puts down sixty two francs and

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Speaker 2: buns in ten minutes. Grotesque disgusting. So is it sport

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Speaker 2: or not? What is sports?

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Speaker 3: Well, Dad, I'll give you the definition here.

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Speaker 4: A sport is an activity involving physical exertion and skill

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Speaker 4: in which an individual or a team competes against one

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Speaker 4: another for entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so hot dogging contest is that technically a sport.

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Speaker 2: He does compete with other people, right, it's exertion, biglus obviously.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's taking some pepto bismo after this deal.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine, right, Okay, his stomach is exerting.

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Speaker 2: I know that, okay, and if just a train for it? Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that leads me to the second question. Would you

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Speaker 2: consider Jorge Chestnut an athlete? That's the key, you know,

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Speaker 2: an athlete?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think he is. Honestly, I think you think about it.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, his stomach is exerting, But you do

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Speaker 4: have to train for something like you.

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Speaker 3: Would think you'd be bad as a house do I

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Speaker 3: just you can't just say, hey, hon, I think I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna enter in the hot Dog Gain contest this year

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Speaker 3: and then eat sixty two hot dogs in ten men.

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Speaker 2: He got a train, You gotta train. But how do

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Speaker 2: you even g's in pretty good shape that he's not fat?

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Speaker 3: I know he is in good shape. How do you

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Speaker 3: even train for that? Do you start with ten dogs?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They move up to thirty, then forty?

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Speaker 2: Then how do you After I watched it, I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm never gonna have a hot dog again. The rest

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Speaker 3: I think there's a training facility for something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a key to how you could be

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Speaker 2: a professional eater. I guess said it's called But is

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Speaker 2: he an athlete? Is he in this same look? Etliot

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Speaker 2: de Lacruz yesterday stole three bases for the Cincinnety reads

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Speaker 2: on two pitches. Yeah, he hit a single, got on first,

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Speaker 2: stole second, stole third that he stole home. He's an athlete.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a runner, He's an athlete. Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: he's an athlete. Is Joey Chess not an athlete? What's

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Speaker 3: Well, here's an athlete.

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Speaker 4: An athlete is a person who is proficient in sports

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Speaker 4: and other forms of physical exercise. That's considered an athlete.

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Speaker 4: So is Joey Chestnut proficient in?

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Speaker 3: God?

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Speaker 2: Do I think he's proficient in that? And that goes

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Speaker 2: back to my meaning of like sport, which I don't

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Speaker 2: but I don't think there's sports. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: Here's my definition. If you could perform the activity while

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Speaker 2: holding a beer. It's not a sport. All right. Corn Hoole,

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Speaker 2: which I see on TV, is not a sport because

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Speaker 2: you could drink a beer while you're performing cornhole? All right?

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Speaker 2: What about synchronized swimming? Is that a sport? I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's a sport. Why is that kidding me?

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Speaker 4: They're in what eight feet for the water, and then

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Speaker 4: they have to tread the entire time they're swimming around.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine being a synchronized swimmer, let her alone,

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Speaker 3: The choreography that goes from. That's not a sport. Well,

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Speaker 3: how about this, okay, chess? We I think we agreed,

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Speaker 3: that's definitely not a sport. But it's in the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. I think chess is. This is the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: So there, chess. Chess is not a sport.

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Speaker 4: I can see synchronized swimming. I can't see chess. Okay,

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Speaker 4: drinking games obviously not a sport. What about this, Okay,

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Speaker 4: horseback riding, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, who's the athlete the horse

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Speaker 3: That's that's a great question. Okay, I'll dive a little

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Speaker 3: bit deeper, please. Jockey.

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Speaker 2: I think a jockey is an athlete that he thinks.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think Joe Blow could get on the

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Speaker 2: back of a horse and do well. However, the jockey

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Speaker 2: success is dependent upon the horse he rides. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you could have a great jockey riding a mule and

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna win to Kentucky Derby. Right. Okay, See,

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Speaker 2: I think the horse is very similar to like a coach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get a coach like a Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: who coached the Cleveland Browns. He lost. He was a

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Speaker 2: losing coach that he gets to Tom Brady. It's all

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Speaker 2: about personnel. He wins. Yeah, okay, so it's crazy, but

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Speaker 2: I have to go that. Perhaps it is, but I'll

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Speaker 2: throw it. What at you bowling bowling? You could drink

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Speaker 2: a beer while you're bowling, Hence it is not a sport.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're you're moving the ball down the lane, and

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Speaker 4: there's skill involved in bowling.

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Speaker 3: You see the way that some of these people bowl.

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Speaker 4: They got that nice little spin towards the edge and

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Speaker 4: then it comes right back in towards the middle and

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Speaker 4: it's a strike every side.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's an activity it's an activity. It's not a sport.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and again there's not a league. I think

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Speaker 2: that to have a sport you have to have a league.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think that there is a professional league, the PBL,

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Speaker 3: the Professional Bowlers.

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Speaker 2: But they're competing against or another. They're not like teams,

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Speaker 2: not like you know, New York against since well it's

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Speaker 2: not like a major like rugby to have a rugby league.

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Speaker 2: Have of lacrosse league right now, the NHL, NBA, Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball, NFL. Yeah, yeah, that's sport.

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Speaker 3: So a sport.

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Speaker 4: So you're talking the difference between an activity and a

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Speaker 4: sport and anything that that involves or that you can

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Speaker 4: have a beer in your hand is more of an activity.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: That's not a sport.

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Speaker 2: Well, in other words, you and your buds are out

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Speaker 2: to do tonight? Let's go bowling In a sense when

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Speaker 2: you really say, let's go drinking and the bowl while

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Speaker 2: we're drinking. That's what you do. You know, someth need

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Speaker 2: to do. Right, Yeah, it's an activity.

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Speaker 3: It's an activity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do need to exert yourself and obviously if

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Speaker 2: you haven't done it, in a long time. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: go home with some pains in your elbow, your on

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Speaker 2: and your back. Perhaps, Okay, but you know what, you

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Speaker 2: could do that by moving, you know, you're moving from

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Speaker 2: one place to another. You could do that if you

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Speaker 2: sit on your rear end all day.

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Speaker 3: What about like running, Is that is that really a sports?

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Speaker 3: An exercise? Exercise?

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Speaker 2: The sport? I don't think so, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think they so.

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Speaker 3: And what about what about golf where.

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Speaker 2: You could drink a beer playing golf? So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's well, the PGA, they're not they're not charging beers.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the running situation. Go back to

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Speaker 2: the exercises. All right. Yeah, it's something that's prescribed usually

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Speaker 2: by a doctor. Okay, you go to a doctor or

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Speaker 2: a Kyle practice say you know, hey, doc, my back

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Speaker 2: is killing me. He said, Okay, go home, and here's

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Speaker 2: a sheet of paper. Do these stretching exercises, all right.

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Speaker 2: Not a sport, it's a it's a curole. It's like

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Speaker 2: going to the to the drugstore and getting medication. That's

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Speaker 2: basically what it is.

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Speaker 3: So something like yoga, someone who's doing yoga, that's not

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Speaker 3: considered a sport. No, there's no activity that right in

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Speaker 3: yoga that you're competing against one another.

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Speaker 2: But that's not you're exposing these people that are trying

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Speaker 2: to sell us on things that are sport and they're

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Speaker 2: not sport. That's why I'm hoping the world is listening

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Speaker 2: right now and they realize that we know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You hold a beer in your hand, it's not a sport.

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Speaker 2: Golf with your buds not really a sport. But p

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Speaker 2: G a PG a different. It's PGA. It's professionals getting paid, right,

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Speaker 2: it's an activity you're competing. You're not really competing. When

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Speaker 2: you're got golfing with your budget, you may bet a

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Speaker 2: bucket to a whole. Maybe it's not really competing, but

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Speaker 2: you're going out there to kill some time, have fun

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Speaker 2: with your friends on the golf course, having a couple

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Speaker 2: of beers. What else you got lay it on me?

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Speaker 2: Lay what else you got for it?

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Speaker 3: So we covered chests.

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Speaker 4: When go back to the jockey thing, how about a

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Speaker 4: jockey because you came from the racetrack, I.

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Speaker 2: Was not a jockey. Harness horses the driver of in sulky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see that's that's he's at that point. He's not

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Speaker 3: an athlete. He's sitting in the buggy, but he's got

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Speaker 3: the reins in his hands and the horse is moving around.

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Speaker 2: Some talent there, there's some skill, Oh what skill standing

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Speaker 2: between two horses over there. Perhaps that's tough. I'll give

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Speaker 2: you that's tough. But you don't really have to be

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Speaker 2: in shape. But I guess that if you're real heavy,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be difficult for the horse to pull you

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Speaker 2: in the sulky.

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Speaker 4: In that situation, I would agree that the horse is

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Speaker 4: the athlete.

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Speaker 3: There's no jockey, no doubts there for some fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, in other words, you're trying to say that any

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Speaker 2: clown could get into the sulky and be pulled by

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Speaker 2: any horse. Of course, it goes back to the jockey

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Speaker 2: and the In thoroughbred racing, the jockey is only as

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Speaker 2: good as the horse he's on, right. The driver in

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Speaker 2: harness racing is only as good in the sulky as

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Speaker 3: I mean the day he came out, Dad, thirty million

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Speaker 2: All right, Alex fer okay on line up today, ask

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Speaker 5: How are you going good? And I can tell just

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Speaker 2: It's Alex, Yes, Alex.

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Speaker 5: He's a fine young man, Fine, fine young I want

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Speaker 5: to fouls your question.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm all yours.

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Speaker 5: Okay, how did I feel? I have a father that's

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Speaker 4: Really, you know, I'll tell you this. At this point

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Speaker 3: We're just here to have a little fun. So let's

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Speaker 4: is my country. I'm an American citizen and I love

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Speaker 4: my country. And for her to say that it's trash,

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Speaker 4: it just breaks my heart.

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Speaker 2: Dad, that you're one that's bleeding your your nationalism and

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Speaker 2: your support for America, which is great. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I'm so concerned and interested. Why no one else did you?

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Speaker 2: Are a teammate? I mean, I'm sure there was some

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Speaker 2: media people. After she said this, they went around the

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Speaker 2: locker room and asked other teammates and say, well, what

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Speaker 2: do you think of her remark? I guess they were

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Speaker 2: either afraid to say anything, afraid to criticize a teammate

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Speaker 2: because they would lose perhaps a quote friend or getting involved.

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Speaker 2: People don't like any involved, so they just kept quiet,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think there's a way to go.

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Speaker 3: I think it is some aspects it might be a

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Speaker 3: way to go. Dad.

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Speaker 4: A true leadership, A true leader doesn't need to be

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Speaker 4: in the spotlight or or have their name plattered out

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Speaker 4: to say that I'm doing the right thing right, I'm

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Speaker 4: speaking out.

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Speaker 3: Of good bysh Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you can still be a leader, Dad, behind closed

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Speaker 4: doors and have these private conversations and we don't know

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Speaker 4: if that's actually happening.

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Speaker 3: I would I would say that.

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Speaker 4: That might be happening right, either leaders on the team

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Speaker 4: or other leaders in the league.

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Speaker 3: But you would fail having these conversations.

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Speaker 2: So we we go so deep in media in this

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Speaker 2: day and age, with social media and so many outlets

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Speaker 2: and so many platforms, you would think there be one

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Speaker 2: enterprising media person who would go back to her college

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Speaker 2: coach and say, did she act like this while she

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Speaker 2: was playing college basketball? I mean, that's why I'm so

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Speaker 2: confused that it just she said this, laid the bombshell,

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Speaker 2: and it just went away and no one said anything,

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Speaker 2: no one. I mean it would amaze me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really did. Yeah. We again, we just don't know.

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Speaker 3: It just breaks my heart, Dad, It really, it really

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Speaker 3: does break my heart.

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Speaker 2: You know, it breaks my heart. The phone call I

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Speaker 2: got by Bilb and Jackson, Well, that breaks my heart.

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Speaker 4: I think some things. I don't think what she said

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Speaker 4: was what was stupid?

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I believe that she spoke out and she has the

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Speaker 4: right and she's expressing her right. And you know, I'll

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Speaker 4: say it. I love that she's doing that. I love

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Speaker 4: that she's expressing the right and given out her opinions.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it might be she might be a

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Speaker 4: little bit misjudged.

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Speaker 3: You know, she she might not know, you know, really

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Speaker 3: what's going on on a bigger picture or comparing, you know,

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Speaker 3: America is trash?

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Speaker 4: Has she visited any other country? Has she visited a

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Speaker 4: first world country? Does she really know what's going on

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Speaker 4: in the world? And halfway stuff like that, I mean

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Speaker 4: to compare.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna make you halfway. When you say,

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Speaker 2: like you respect what she said, I do too, because

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Speaker 2: when they give the opportunity. She never said I was misquoted.

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Speaker 2: She doubled down and said it was trash again. So

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Speaker 2: a lot of people say something no, no, no, no, I was misquoted.

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Speaker 2: They misquoted me, so she didn't say that. She kept

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Speaker 2: on saying with the traits. But we'll continue. He's Alex Furman,

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We're rolling along here. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, by the way,

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Speaker 2: there was one man. There was one man who stood

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Speaker 2: all alone right here on Fox Sports Sunday, and that's

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Speaker 2: live from the Tyrock dot Com studio. Will tell you

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Speaker 2: who he is. But first, here's Kevin Wyatt with all

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Speaker 2: the sports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: A couple of impressive feats accomplished in Major League Baseball yesterday. First,

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Speaker 6: there was a no hitter thrown.

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Speaker 7: The yotsuit pitch swinging at chopper left side, charging in mckinstrey.

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Speaker 2: I'm the first no hitter. For the first time.

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Speaker 1: In franchise history, the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Have thrown a no hitter.

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Speaker 2: I combined no hitter as the.

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Speaker 1: Mob Alex laying on the mound, and they have done

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Speaker 1: it here today. Jimmy, what a win for the Tigers.

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Speaker 2: A no hitter this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Tiger's radio network is Detroit finishes off Toronto two nothing.

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Speaker 6: Matt Manning went six and two thirds innings, walking three batters,

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Speaker 6: and when he was pulled in the seventh inning. He

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Speaker 6: had absolutely no idea. They hadn't allowed to hit yet

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Speaker 6: to that point. Now we're off to Cincinnati and Ellie

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Speaker 6: de la Cruz, a sensational rookie for the Reds, continues

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Speaker 6: to impress. And I think he just I think he

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Speaker 6: did something that I don't think anyone would have expected

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Speaker 6: even from him.

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Speaker 7: High light kick coming to the plate, he'll steal third base.

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Speaker 7: Ellie dayla Cruz roll without even a throw the third baseman,

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Speaker 7: Brian Brian Anderson didn't even go that was coming home her.

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Speaker 6: You say, Red's Radio network theory are He's still three

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Speaker 6: bases in a row of just two pitches. As the

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Speaker 6: Reds taking a two game lead in the National League Central,

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Speaker 6: they beat the Brewers eight to five, the Dodgers pounding

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Speaker 6: Angels ten to five. They sweep all four games in

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Speaker 6: this year's Freeway Series. The Diamondbacks beat the Pirates three

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Speaker 6: to two. That means Arizona still half a game ahead

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Speaker 6: of the Dodgers in the National League West. Another narrow

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Speaker 6: races in the AL Central, the Guardians seizing the lead

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Speaker 6: after they beat the Royals ten to six, the Twins

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Speaker 6: losing to the Orioles six to two. And in the

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Speaker 6: NBA on Saturday, they announced the format for their new

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Speaker 6: in season tournament. Now the pools will consist of five

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Speaker 6: teams in three each in the Western and Eastern Conferences,

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Speaker 6: and that'll all take place in November. The semi finals

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Speaker 6: and finals will be early December in Las Vegas, and

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Speaker 6: the grand prize for the team that wins. Each player

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Speaker 6: will receive five hundred thousand dollars. And in the college ranks,

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Speaker 6: former West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins how does Attorney

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Speaker 6: send a letter to the school saying that Huggins never

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Speaker 6: resigned after last month's guy rest and that he expects

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Speaker 6: to have his job back. And in soccer, Megan Rappino

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Speaker 6: retiring after this year. And on Sunday, the US women's

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Speaker 6: national team are gonna have their final tun before they

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Speaker 6: head out to the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, nice Kevin, Okay, where did everyone

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Speaker 2: else go? That's coming right up. He's Alex Furman. I'm

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: before we roll onto this subject over here, I just

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Speaker 2: want to mention that Kevin mentioned that Bob Huggins situation.

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Speaker 2: What a sid situation that is. I mean, and we

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Speaker 2: know Bob Huggins from Cincinnati coaching here and at West

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Speaker 2: Virginia right now, a legend in West Virginia. He played there.

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Speaker 2: It was an All American there. And to go out

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Speaker 2: like this after making the Hall of Fame this past year,

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Speaker 2: and his attorneys are saying that he wasn't fired, he

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Speaker 2: didn't resign, he was fired. He wants his job back

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Speaker 2: and he went to rehab. This story's not going to

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Speaker 2: be over for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really paints a bad ending picture for Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 4: An amazing career both on the court and then on

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Speaker 4: the side of the court, right Gosh, the Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame career, you know, you just hate to see that

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Speaker 4: for a guy who really had it all and then

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Speaker 4: just kind of you know, we we talk about that

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Speaker 4: and and a few a few other athletes.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this on the show. You know where

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Speaker 3: you want to end on the high and the best

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Speaker 3: way that you can possibly be. And then you know

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Speaker 3: some athletes they'll just try and drag it on, drag

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Speaker 3: it on, drag it on, and then you just remember

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Speaker 3: them towards the end of their career where they're just

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Speaker 3: you know, really bad or it's just not what they

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Speaker 3: were in the beginning of the career. Right. This is

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Speaker 3: the whole thing with Pop Hupkins. Right, you know, everyone

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Speaker 3: remembers them as such an amazing coach, a great Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame coach.

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Speaker 2: But now is going to be that he went out

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Speaker 2: because he was a d u I guy. That's people

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Speaker 2: legacy is going to go up because he was a

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Speaker 2: gambler exactly, dream exactly. No matter how good you did

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Speaker 2: in the world, forget about it. You're always going to

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Speaker 2: be remembered.

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Speaker 3: For the dui or for the gambling, and that's what

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Speaker 3: people will remember you by. And that's he can't end

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Speaker 3: like that, man, right, can't do it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Alex Forrman's infigep Schwartz today. But that

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Speaker 2: asked Alex at about seven eight minutes from now, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we heard when Natasha Cloud had to say about America.

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Speaker 2: She traished America. But you know what, not only has

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Speaker 2: the WNBA the league itself been quiet, they have issued

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Speaker 2: no response. The Washington Mystics, the team she plays for,

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Speaker 2: they also stuck the head in the sand. But honestly, really,

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Speaker 2: what could they do? It is freedom of speech, right,

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Speaker 2: so I guess they hands the tie. But one man,

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Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. One man former NBA player Enis can't

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Speaker 2: their freedom? Had a comment, where is everybody? Else Where

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Speaker 2: was the outspoken Lebron James? Lebron James has everything and

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Speaker 2: I love him. I love him as a basketball player.

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Speaker 2: He has the platform and he uses it pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: He talks about everything, comments about everything. Where was Lebron James?

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Speaker 2: The outspoken Lebron James. We didn't even hear from Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: But as far as can't the freedom, he says, quote,

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Speaker 2: I'm offering her or anybody else, I'll buy their ticket

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Speaker 2: first class taken to some of these regimes out there.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, where was Britney grind Her who

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Speaker 2: a drug charge. Where was she she's if she at

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Speaker 2: one point in time, I guess she felt the same way.

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Speaker 2: Does she trash America? Now? How come these people aren't

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Speaker 2: speaking up? You must have a comment on that.

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Speaker 4: Like I said before, I think maybe some of these

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Speaker 4: people are reaching out to her in a more private setting, right.

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Speaker 4: They're calling her privately, they're texting her privately, they're messenger privately.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they don't want to get pulled into the situation,

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Speaker 4: but they have comments and they have, you know, something

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Speaker 4: to say to her and saying open your eyes. Now,

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Speaker 4: I love what Freedom did and offered to a plane

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Speaker 4: ride anywhere in the world to really go.

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Speaker 3: See other issues.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're from Turkey, so he knows what it's

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Speaker 2: like to be there and come here. So that's life.

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Speaker 4: So that's my comment before you know, perhaps she just

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Speaker 4: doesn't really know what goes on in other parts of

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Speaker 4: the world, know how good she has or how good

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Speaker 4: she has it. She doesn't have this perspective that of

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Speaker 4: course other people might have, and that she only sees

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Speaker 4: it looking through one lens, where she had an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to look through multiple lenses. It may change her perspective, right,

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Speaker 4: and then she may recan't her comment, you know, and

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Speaker 4: I commend Freedom for stepping up to the plate and swinging.

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Speaker 3: I commend But could you.

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Speaker 2: See Natasha Cloud, maybe in the next week or so,

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Speaker 2: coming out and saying that she was wrong, just to

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Speaker 2: backtrack and apologize. I don't know I could see it happening.

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Speaker 2: I really can, can you? Yes? I think I think

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00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: the pressure is gonna be, like you say, may not

654
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: be public pressure, but friends and people close to her,

655
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: maybe even a Britney Grinder who plays in the league

656
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: with her, will get on the horn and say, look,

657
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: you need to step up and say look, it's not

658
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: not good I.

659
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: Think for her, cause that may be one of the

660
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: best things that she can do. Right.

661
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about you know, athletes in

662
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: the spotlight in situation like this, how are they judged? Right,

663
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: They're judged by their demeanor, by how they're going to

664
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: approach the situation.

665
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: Right. The way that she's approaching the.

666
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: Situation isn't really looking good for her and really isn't

667
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: spreading the message that she wants to spread, because all

668
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: they're focused on is the one comment on America's stress,

669
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: and this is everything else that she's saying but if

670
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: she cancers, if she just approaches it in more of

671
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: a cunning way or a symbolic way, then her message

672
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: will be heard.

673
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't watch many WNBA games if I have it

674
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: to flick on the TV and the New York liberty

675
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: of playing, because I'm from Brooklyn, I know what they're doing.

676
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: I followed Breonna Stewart, so I'll watch a little bit

677
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: of that. I'd like to see the Watchington mystics on

678
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: TV and the response that the crowd would give her

679
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: they see her play. That would be interesting. That's what

680
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to see because although maybe there aren't that

681
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: many people attending these games anyway, I don't know, but

682
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: that's the thing i'd like to see. But it's funny

683
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: when you say in his freedom did he says, Look,

684
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: he says, I just can't believe how these athletes are

685
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: so uneducated about what's going on the rest of the world.

686
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: And that's a great statement. Yeah you said it.

687
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: You even mentioned it because you grew up in Bulgaria.

688
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: You know what it's like to live there and come here.

689
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I remember an the orphanage.

690
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: I mean, our our breakfast, lunch, and dinner was just

691
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: yogurt every day, every day. Everyone was just yogurt, right,

692
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: And that's all that the Orphanage could afford because it

693
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: was a it was a first world country, it was

694
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: a very poor country. And to have Freedom offer a

695
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: plane ride, let me show you other parts of the world,

696
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: let me show you what's really going on.

697
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: I hope that brings some perspective.

698
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: And I hope other athletes Lebron James, Brittany Grinder, I

699
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: hope they're reaching out to her and trying to put

700
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: some some put.

701
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Some perspective right in her head. Well Freedom said this, Uh,

702
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I feel she's just an educated enough she just know

703
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: any better or worse. She's just hating on this beautiful country.

704
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: And that's what she's doing. And and I feel for her.

705
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: And again I'm with you, like I respect her that

706
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: she did that. She has every right to do. That

707
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: does but it doesn't do any good for anybody, especially her,

708
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

709
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: And she wants to make a statement that that's perfectly fine.

710
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: But you know you, you always taught me action speaks

711
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: louder than words.

712
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: I did.

713
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that, oh yeah, oh yeah. Absolutely So if

714
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna get behind a movement, maybe do some do

715
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: some more actions, you know, volunteer at the time, and

716
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: which I imagine, imagine that she is. You know, she's

717
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: she's doing that kind of stuff. But I don't know.

718
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: You say comments like this, It just because a bad picture.

719
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: Man, that picture, I know, and I thought some of

720
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: the comments I make behind the microphone are bed. But

721
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: this is not this cano d Yeah there Ago, Yeah,

722
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: he's Alex Ferman. He's Info Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman.

723
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: By the way, he's no Schwartz, but he's my kid.

724
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Ask Colex's next, Ask Gillis right around the band, He's

725
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: Alex Ferman. If Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman. We're live

726
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: from the tyraq dot com studios about thirteen minutes before

727
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. What are we waiting for?

728
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: It's time for ask Gillis. Let's get a little music here.

729
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Are you ready? You're on the hot seat right now?

730
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

731
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: Let's do it?

732
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Can you handle it?

733
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: I was born, I was born ready, give it?

734
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Give it?

735
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get it. Sorry.

736
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Speaker 2: Bajor League Baseball All Star Game except for Tuesday night.

737
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: How I ask you which Pro All Star Game is

738
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: the best? And why in your estimation.

739
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Well, let's go through the list here real quick. What

740
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: you got the Pro Ball for the NFL, which is

741
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: you got the All Star Game in the NBA. You

742
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: got All Star Week for the MLB.

743
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: You got the Ryder Cup in golf, which every two

744
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: years normally it's the best golfers in America versus Europe.

745
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go Ryder Cup. Really, I love

746
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: the Ryder Cup. It's a huge, it's awesome.

747
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: I know you.

748
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: As far as spectators concern this l MLB, m L,

749
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: I'm with the MLB.

750
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, christ what you got the celebrity game? You got

751
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: home run Derby? Of course, you got the All Star

752
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: Game versus the l n L. Yeah, I gotta go LB.

753
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: The Dunk contest is a joke. The big guys don't

754
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: even show up anymore. Lebron hasn't been there in years.

755
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the way they play, they score two hundred points.

756
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: It's nuts. It's like, yeah, okay, all right, next, Okay,

757
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: you played college football, you played in high school. In

758
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: high school, you wrestled, you ran track, and you were

759
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: football in high school. What are the advantages of being

760
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: an athlete in school? Because you know me, I was

761
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: a geek, you know, I didn't the manager of the

762
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: band that what the kids called you. No, not, you

763
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: didn't call me that though.

764
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think some of the advantages of being an athlete,

765
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: you know, in school. One, you're seeing as a leader

766
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 4: in school, right, you know, you got the jersey on

767
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: on game days, you're seen as a leader.

768
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 3: People look up to you. Right.

769
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 4: You make tons of friends on the team, right, you know,

770
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: and even lifelong friends you make on the team, you know.

771
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: So those are some of the advantages of being in sports.

772
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: In school's advantages.

773
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, after a big loss, it's kind of it's kind

774
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: of hard to walk around school.

775
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Not even as sometimes the teachers will say something, what.

776
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: Happens it And then you know, people will come up

777
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: to you and they'll start asking questions. You know, what

778
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: happened out there? And you know that's football.

779
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: You lost.

780
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 3: You dropped the pass on and you were wide open.

781
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: If you didn't get that, try you get that in

782
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: the football.

783
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in football.

784
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean even track, you know, he's like, man,

785
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: what happened you know, you got a bad start out

786
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: of the gate or something like that, or now it's

787
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: a bad handoff with the baton. You know, it's sometimes

788
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: after a bad loss, it's kind of it's kind of

789
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: hard to walk around campus.

790
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you talk about athletes, is it fair in

791
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: your mind that athletes lives now they were like an

792
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: open book at least on social media. The latest now

793
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm reading on social media Tom Brady is being linked

794
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: with Kim Kardashian.

795
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's fair, especially, Yeah, think about it,

796
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: especially in a professional setting. Think about it, and even

797
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: Jeff said it. You know, when when you.

798
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: Become a professional athlete, you're automatically a role model, whether

799
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: you want to be a role model or not. Right,

800
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: people kids, they look up to you, and now that

801
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: you're a professional, your life is in the spotlight. So

802
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: if you're going to become a professional athlete, you have

803
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: to expect that your life is going to be written

804
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: in the newspapers, it's going to be on ESPN, it's

805
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: going to be in television, or it's going to be

806
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: plastered all over social media.

807
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: It's kind of what people expect nowadays. I kind of

808
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: hate to say that that you can't have a personal life,

809
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 3: but that's the that's the truth.

810
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Jordan said he never would go out

811
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: with dinnery was the room service. You just can't go.

812
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: Look about it, man, that must that must be.

813
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: And the worst part of it is like, look, I

814
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: understand if people bug you at the time of restaurants

815
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: for not you, but the bug athletes for autograss and whatever.

816
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: But now in this day and age, you can't do

817
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: a darn thing because everybody has a photographer. Everybody's a

818
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: photographer with their phone. Oh yeah, okay, So say someone

819
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: wants to take a picture with you and there's a

820
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: young man and a young woman. You put your arm

821
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: around the woman. Next thing you know, it gets on

822
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: the internet and you're in trouble.

823
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be careful or they ask you for

824
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: a picture, you refuse and then they plaster all over.

825
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: He turned me down, Yeah, he turned it down.

826
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: He's a jark. He has no time for his fans

827
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, I mean, he can't win. But honestly, like,

828
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: if you're a professional athlete, you know what you're signing

829
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: up for, right You know that my personal life is

830
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: not a personal life anymore. It's in the media exactly.

831
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: There's no privacy.

832
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Okay. And speaking of athletes. Who is the athlete or

833
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: maybe athletes that you admire the most and why, oh.

834
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: That's a great question. Who's the athletes?

835
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: You know?

836
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: I love? I love Tiger Woods. He's a great athlete,

837
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: great golfer.

838
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: Uh to admire him though, isn't it? I mean as

839
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: an athlete, but his lifestyle.

840
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, lifestyle is not Ricky Fowler. I love Ricky Fawler.

841
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 4: He's like the hometown kid that every everybody who follows

842
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: golf loves Rickey Faller because he's like the hometown kid

843
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: no matter where he goes, Right, everyone's always rooting for

844
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: Ricky and.

845
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: We're always rooting for a win.

846
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: And he just got a big win at the Honda Classic,

847
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 4: so finally he took a trophy home.

848
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: But you're not. You're avoiding the team sports now. I mean,

849
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: like look Cincinnati thinking.

850
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: You know, I love Joe Burrow what he's done for

851
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: the Bengals, turning the turning the Bengals around.

852
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: I love that.

853
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: But more than that, I think he's just a good

854
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: you say leader, Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, you know, yeah, never,

855
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: he'll never get in trouble, you know, talking.

856
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: About you know, professional athletes in the media. You really

857
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: never hear anything about Joe Burrow, right media, right, good

858
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: or bad?

859
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: Right? You know when he kept pretty pre private life.

860
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: When Taylor Swift came to Cincinnati a week ago, the

861
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: big deal was was he either the girl of the

862
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: concert or he just stayed away? He doesn't. He doesn't

863
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: look for that. He's more interested in his in his

864
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: uh you know, helping others with his charity.

865
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: You know what he is. He's smart. He is, he's smart.

866
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: He's not gonna put it. And we talked about this.

867
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: I believe in the last show, putting yourself in a

868
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: situation that's gonna cause trouble, right, Joe Burrow does not

869
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 4: put himself in a situation that might cause some trouble.

870
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: I would say most asthletes are that way. We only

871
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: read about us. See the ones that are in trouble. Yes,

872
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: and really and truly there's only a handful of them,

873
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: not a lot. Most of them are like the Joe

874
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: Burrow types.

875
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Yes, right, yes, last.

876
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: But not leaves. Okay, would you ender the Nathan's fourth

877
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: of July hot dog get in context? Do you think

878
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: you'd like to try to do that?

879
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Honestly?

880
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: No, But at the dad, I can't even eat five

881
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 4: hot dogs.

882
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

883
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean five hot dogs. My stomach is busting, my

884
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: pants is ripping at the scenes. I can't enter the

885
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: hot dog eating contest?

886
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you train? All right, so you're not

887
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: gonna do that.

888
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 3: Maybe an ice cream eating contest, not a hot.

889
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: One form of pro he's hot and he has every

890
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: reason to be. We're gonna tell you who he is

891
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: right here next. All right, you're gonna make me cry.

892
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: Stats are great, but actions also count. We'll get to

893
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: that in just a minute. Yes, he's Alex Fermanan for

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Speaker 2: you ready to stop it in? Are you ready?

905
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

906
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready. You know, I got to say you

907
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: really quick, Charles, I got, Charles Van, Charles, thank you,

908
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: correct me. I was saying first world country, I met

909
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: third world countries. Honestly, Dad, I get my numbers mixed.

910
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: Up alone, and I can tell you never were good math.

911
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't gonna mass the third world.

912
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Country, which is Bulgaria where you're from. You'll go with

913
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 2: yes as opposed to first world. We're talking about Natasha Cloud,

914
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: who basically traish America.

915
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, thank you.

916
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Close that. Thank you, Charles Van saying, okay, now we

917
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: talk about the NFL. The NFL is king, and the

918
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: question is why do you think it's king? Why is

919
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: everybody talking football? Be the way they space out there,

920
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: their events, I mean the draft, it's a year round thing,

921
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: three sixty five, seven days a week. And and the

922
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: way they play their games, and it's set up perfectly.

923
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: They played two three times a week midweek, they talk

924
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: about the next game. It's it's a perfect setup. And

925
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: only seventeen games, so every game is so meaningful. Okay,

926
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: And the stories come flying in all the time. People

927
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: eat them up. It's like a daily soap opera. Okay,

928
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen in basketball, doesn't happen in baseball. Howk

929
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: caesus are too long, They just don't have those kind

930
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: of stories. Take this one, former Bengal running back Corey Dillon.

931
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: He popped his mouth the other day met about the

932
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: team's ring of honor this election process, they had a

933
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: ring of honor and out of Bengals, they have it

934
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: in the stadium for the second year now. And he's

935
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: the team's all time leading rusher. So regardless who's doing

936
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: the voting, which is not happy about, right, whoever's doing

937
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: the voting, he should be in. There's no doubt about that.

938
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: He should be in. But he popped his mouth. And

939
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: the problem is is only second year of the process.

940
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: Another problem his pass actions. People remember what you say

941
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: and do. To management, he said he would rather flip

942
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: Burgers than play for the Bengals at one point in time. Also,

943
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: the very last game he played here, he took off

944
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: his shoulder pads and threw him in the stands. You know,

945
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: when your bad mouth management, it may very well come

946
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: back to haunt you if you work at a radio

947
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: station all right and you leave you by your own accord,

948
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: or if you get the axe and you're fired, you

949
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: go on social media start badmouth the people, there's a

950
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: real good chance they'll never take you back again. Yeah,

951
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful. Actions are probably more important in

952
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: my mind than the statistical evidence that he has for

953
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: being the old time leading rusher of this team.

954
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

955
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely can't be burning your bridges, you know,

956
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: whenever you're leaving or whenever you're just upset with management.

957
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: What a time? I have always heard that what of bridges?

958
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: Who wears bridges? Now? Does anybody biddy bridge?

959
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: Bridges? Bridge bridges?

960
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Bridges? Bridges? Okay a toll bridge?

961
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 3: Crank up the hearing a dad. Honestly, I would agree

962
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: why he's upset. I mean, he has a valid point.

963
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: He is the most leading rusher you know in Bangles

964
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: for franchise history. I understand why he would be upset,

965
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: and I think, honestly, he's not upset at the Bengals.

966
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: I think really the.

967
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: Real issue is is he's just upset at the voting

968
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: process and he makes a couple of valid points, then

969
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: he does you know. So here's the voting process. The

970
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: voting process is done by season ticket hole or box

971
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: seat holders, sweets Sweet Sweets holders.

972
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: Yes, that's weak. Those are the.

973
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: People that get to vote in these Ring of Hall

974
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: of Fames, right, And it's not a commission.

975
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: There's no committee, no, and none of that.

976
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: But one of his arguments is, I think it's valid

977
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: the people that are voting these people in.

978
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: Has he even seen him play?

979
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: I agree, they don't even know who he is. But

980
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: it's an ingenious method on the part of the Cincinnati Bengals.

981
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: This takes the pressure off management that hire committee, no

982
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: doubt about that.

983
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: And it could be former players, I agree, former staff,

984
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: anybody higher, committee, sweetholders.

985
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's like buying a vote. You know,

986
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 2: I buy a suite, I get a vote. These people

987
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: have no idea who Corey Dyllon is, That's what I'm saying.

988
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: And they have no idea that he has eight thousand

989
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: plus rushing yards eighteen hundred and sixty five attempts tossed

990
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: to the Bengals, and the Bengals let him go to

991
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots where he led them in rushing

992
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: and he won a Super Bowl with that, this guy

993
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: should be in the Ring of Honor, There's no doubt

994
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: about that. But the point is this, he did quick

995
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: in one game when Bruce Cosso was the coach. He

996
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: quit in the middle of the game, just stopped playing, okay,

997
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: And the last game was I e mentually put the

998
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: shoulder pads and pushed them in the stands. So when

999
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: your bad mouth your boss, it's gonna come back and

1000
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: haunt you. But I still believe he will one day

1001
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: be in the Ring of arn I think he has

1002
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: to be, you know, I.

1003
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: Think he has to be. I really do.

1004
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: And honestly, I hate to say, bygones, be bygones, but

1005
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't think throwing the pads into the stands is

1006
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: really going to affect his ability to get into the

1007
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: Ring of Fame or the what's it called, the Ring

1008
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: of the Ring of Honor, Yeah, the Ring of Honor.

1009
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to affect it. Honestly.

1010
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: The biggest factor here is the fans voting, and to

1011
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: his point, they don't even know who.

1012
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: The heck he is.

1013
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: Dad.

1014
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: You know what, I would love to.

1015
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: Add, that's a really he makes a really good point.

1016
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: But then he's man, he is so fired up. He's saying,

1017
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: you love it. He's saying it's a popularity contest.

1018
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, it is for the sweeth holders and box holders.

1019
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean it is a popularity cause that's why Chad

1020
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Johnson will eventually get in. Well though he should. He's

1021
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: one of the old time leading receivers on this ball club.

1022
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 2: But this is what I love to see, which would

1023
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: put like some egg in the face of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1024
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to see Corey Dillon go to Canton, Ohio

1025
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: and get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and

1026
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: not get into the Ring of Honor. How funny would

1027
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: that be?

1028
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 8: Right?

1029
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: I think you would rather be in the Pro Football

1030
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 4: Hall rather than the Ring of Honor at the Bengals,

1031
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: although I'm sure you would want the ring of the

1032
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor at the Bengals. But yeah, to what

1033
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: I was saying, he think he thinks that this is

1034
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: more of a popularity contest. It shouldn't be about how

1035
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 4: popular the player was. It should be more about the stats.

1036
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: And that's his argument. I agree with him.

1037
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't.

1038
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: You can't disagree about that, Dad.

1039
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: You know. But like we talked about, Natasha Straub, I'm

1040
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: basically opening her mouth and saying America is trash. Very

1041
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: difficult to compare what she said is to what Corey

1042
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: Dillon saying. But sometimes you got to bite your tongue. Yeah,

1043
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta bite your tongue, because he said Corey

1044
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Dylon quoting now, he said, he said it was garbage

1045
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: and the selection should be done directly by the front

1046
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: office or a special committee. You could have done that

1047
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: in a kind of a kinder and more gentler tone

1048
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: than saying it was garbage. And maybe he shouldn't even

1049
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: gone public with it. Maybe just go go to Mike Brown,

1050
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: the president of the Cincinnati Bengals, and say, look, you know,

1051
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the voting process. I'd like to get in.

1052
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to be part of the Ring of Honor.

1053
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I think there's a way to

1054
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: do things. You know, some people come after others with

1055
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: a sledgehammer, and some people come after others with soap

1056
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: and water and sugar bar, you know the case of sugar.

1057
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: There's a way to do it. And I don't think

1058
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: Corey did do it, did it the right way. You know,

1059
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: he was a second round pick. Of ninety seven. Played

1060
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: for the Bengals for seven years. He made it to

1061
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: three pole Pro Bowls. Rush forget this, he rushed for

1062
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: at least a thousand yards in everyone but his final

1063
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: season with the Cincinnati Bengals, which was the franchise his

1064
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: first year on the Marvin Lewis and they traded him

1065
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: to the New England Patriots for a second round pick.

1066
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: All right, and then obviously he won the Super Bowl

1067
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: with them. In his first season with the Patriots, he

1068
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: went over one thousand yards again, named it the Pro

1069
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: Bowl again, and as I mentioned, helped New England win

1070
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles. How do you

1071
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: like that? As a matter of fact, he had that

1072
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: go ahead touchdown in the last quarter in that game

1073
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: to help them beat the Eagles. So you know, he

1074
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: has all the credentials to get into the Ring of Honor,

1075
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: except the way he went about it, that's his problem.

1076
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 4: Well, I think Dylan is just doing what Dylan does,

1077
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: and he's he's a little outlandish, right, I mean, and

1078
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: we've seen this happen. Rather Flip Berger's than play for

1079
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: the Bengals, And I'm gonna throw my pads into the

1080
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: stands I think this is just the way that Corey

1081
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: Dillon communicates. I hate to say that, but honestly, right,

1082
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: this is just the way that he communicates. I mean,

1083
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: my gosh, I'm reading this articles and he's dropping you know,

1084
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: f bombs and all that kind of stuff, and they're

1085
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: writing it. But I think that's just the way he is.

1086
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: You know, you can't fault the guy for it, but

1087
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: he makes a valid point.

1088
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: He certainly does. He's only realized one thing, this Ring

1089
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: of Honor, which has been going on and on and

1090
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: on in Denver with the Broncos, they've had a eons.

1091
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: The Bengals didn't start until twenty twenty one, so obviously

1092
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: there's a tremendous backlog of players to get into the

1093
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor. Right now, they only have six members

1094
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: in group. The team found that Paul Brown, Mike Brown's

1095
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: dad who founded the Cincinnti Bengals, He's in there, Paul Brown,

1096
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: quarterback Ken Anderson, cornerback Ken Riley, who should be in Canton, Ohio,

1097
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: offensive tackle on Anthony Munio's wide receive Isaac Curtis, and

1098
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: offensive tackle Willie Anderson. So basically, and Riley's passed on.

1099
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: So they got a backlog of receivers and quarterbacks and

1100
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: other players who should be in there. So I think

1101
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: Corey will definitely get in. But man, I mean, come

1102
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: at it like not like what a mac trump. Yeah,

1103
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: take it easy.

1104
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, like I said, we've seen Dylan kind of

1105
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: act like this before. You know, very Outlander's very outs

1106
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: when he played too.

1107
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: Well, that's great. I know that's great. But he has

1108
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: an opinion, and you know, if the Volture ever gets

1109
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: on the list, I'm voting for Fulter.

1110
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Who he's got. Well, you can't you know the season

1111
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: take it older?

1112
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, shoot, son of a guy.

1113
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: You know what. And here's here's a quote of the

1114
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: day from Corey Dillon's his quote. I'm pretty sure they'll

1115
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: put effing John Kidner in there before they put me

1116
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: in there. This is what he told the Athletic matter

1117
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: of fact, Scott Mitchell. I forgot Scott Mitchell, even quarterback

1118
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: to Bengals. Scott Mitchell will end up in that and

1119
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: then for it before I do. I mean, it's not mean.

1120
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.

1121
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: Don't think you know, it's funny. I don't think athletes

1122
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm mistaken here. I don't think athletes really

1123
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: play to get into Hall of Fames or Rings of Honor.

1124
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: They play to win, and they play to make a

1125
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: lot of money. You know, if they get into a

1126
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or Ring of Honor, that's just gravy.

1127
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: It's icing on the cake, cherry on the cake, whatever

1128
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: it may be. So I don't think Corey Dylon really

1129
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: and truly is dying to get into the Ring of Honor.

1130
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: He just is seeing others who are getting in, he thinks,

1131
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: and he should be there before then. And I agree

1132
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: with him, so I do.

1133
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: This is the second year that the Bengals are doing this.

1134
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: He didn't get in the first year.

1135
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: And he's not going to it because, as I said,

1136
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: as a backlog, I mean, he'll eventually get in. They're

1137
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna put three tops a year.

1138
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dad, that's actually that's pretty interesting, and it.

1139
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Is a prulary contest. Was Chris Collinsworth, who who is

1140
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: not a leader in receiving, but up there he'll get

1141
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: in before Corey Dillon because of his popularity, his visibility

1142
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: on TV. So Chris will get in, there's no doubt.

1143
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's funny that you say that because you

1144
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: hit it on the nail. Athletes they play to win.

1145
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: They play to win champions, they play to win games.

1146
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: And you know, money's a nice little Money's a nice

1147
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 3: little thing that they get. No doubt, right, I don't

1148
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: think they're playing. I mean, well, I can see them

1149
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: playing to try to get into the Hall of Fame.

1150
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's every player's ambition, right.

1151
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: But look, but he's kind of.

1152
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: He's kind of pushing, like he's like he's doing it

1153
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: a little aggressive.

1154
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: I think there's no doubt. But look, there are certain

1155
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: athletes that get draft that I think that they know

1156
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: when they're drafted, they're happy to be there. They're lucky

1157
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: to be there. But there's no way on God's green

1158
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: earth they'll ever be in the Hall of Fame. Really. Yeah,

1159
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: there's one guy and I love him to death. Luke Maley,

1160
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: the catcher of the Cincinnati Reds. I really do. I

1161
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: like the Melee family and greater Cincinnati. Luke will never

1162
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. I love and he

1163
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: knows that he's happy to be where he's at. He's

1164
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: a local kid. He went to high school in northern Kentucky,

1165
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: covering the Catholic and to play on your hometown baseball

1166
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: team in Cincinnati. That to me is worth like a

1167
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame thing. That's so athletes know that they're

1168
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna get their look. If athletes didn't play to earn money,

1169
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: they were that free agency. You know, look what's going

1170
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: on right now. These athletes jumping from teammate to team

1171
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: B Why for money? They may have a better chance

1172
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: of winning where they were. That guy Brown who played

1173
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: for the Denver Nuggets they won this year. He jumped

1174
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: for forty five million to go to the Indiana Pacers. Right,

1175
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win anything, but he went because it's money.

1176
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: So they played for two things. They played for themselves

1177
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: and I guess they played for a for themselves, be

1178
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: for themselves again. For money, that's what they do. Winning

1179
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: is something he would be nice to have, But I'd

1180
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: rather get the money. That's what they do.

1181
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you make a really good point. Now you're switching

1182
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: my view. I don't know if I want Dylan in

1183
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: the Ring of Hall or with the Ring of Honor. Yeah,

1184
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor, I don't. I don't think I want

1185
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: him in there. He's pushing it too hard. Dad time

1186
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: won't come, No doubt he deserves to be in there,

1187
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: but his time will come. Don't put that kind of

1188
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: pressure on an organization like that, and don't be outlandish

1189
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 4: like that.

1190
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: It kind of puts a bad picture on yourself. Just

1191
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: like you said, he had an amazing career with the

1192
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: Bengals and then he's doing something that ruins that tarnishes

1193
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: his legacy.

1194
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: You bring up another point, though, you know, does that matter? Okay,

1195
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: when you have a ring of honor or a hall

1196
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: of fame, is it's just statistics and the way you

1197
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: played the game that opens up the door for you

1198
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: or does account everything when your personality and how you act.

1199
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it should. I think that if you

1200
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: have the stats, you open the door and get in. Okay,

1201
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: I think Pete Row should be in the Hall of Fame.

1202
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: Forty two to fifty six career hits no one, No

1203
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: one will ever get those hits again. Why no one's

1204
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: gonna play that long? You know you're gonna make so

1205
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: much money. You play eight, nine, ten years, that's it.

1206
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: Pee played twenty plus years. But he played for forty

1207
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: two hundred plus hits and what he did off the field,

1208
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: who cares?

1209
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: You know?

1210
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: He played the game played it the right way, had

1211
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: some incidents off the field. Whatever. Look Bob Huggins right now,

1212
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: he's in the Basketball Hall of Fame. You know, got

1213
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: some tarnish on his name, but he's still in the

1214
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame. Rick Betino's in all right. He

1215
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: had some tarnished in Louisville, right, But man, maybe they

1216
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: should put these guys in after they die. Now, I

1217
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I don't know the answer, but

1218
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: I do know this. You deserve to get into a

1219
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame based on the way you played your sports.

1220
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: Well you said it before. It's a little bit of

1221
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: a popularity contest. Chad Johnson, he had good stats, right,

1222
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: but people love to watch him on the field.

1223
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: People love this personality game. I mean, yeah, he'll get in,

1224
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: but you know he's not.

1225
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: He wasn't the best receiver though we had right the

1226
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: stat wise right close to so, so that's what I'm saying.

1227
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: So, like, you know, he didn't really tarnish his reputation.

1228
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: His reputation, right, but you know, what are you doing?

1229
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of well, I don't know, man, he's.

1230
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: Any badmouth management that was bad.

1231
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 3: I can't do that.

1232
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still the stats.

1233
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: But I still think I'll get in, No doubt that

1234
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: I think he'll get in. But what he's doing right now,

1235
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: it's it's not painting in a pretty picture for himself.

1236
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: What you're saying, all right, he's Alex Ferman I for

1237
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. Get him on threads underscore A L E

1238
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: x F. You are right? Is anybody contacting you on threads?

1239
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm gonna follow at the follower? Is that right?

1240
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Dad, Maybe I should join threads. I'll make

1241
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: you appro I'll make you a little account.

1242
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get them. You know what, people spend half

1243
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: their day on social media.

1244
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: You gotta do work.

1245
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: You can spend your half your day Instagram, social media,

1246
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: face chat.

1247
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. That's how I get all my information.

1248
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: There you go yet, and that's why you're at where

1249
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,720
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1250
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Speaker 2: in this hour the Blame Game an hour number three.

1254
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Speaker 2: And why does he think he's a better quarterback? Now

1255
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Speaker 2: that's next.

1256
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 9: Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball.

1257
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 9: We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's

1258
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1259
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1260
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Speaker 9: We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell

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1262
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1263
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1265
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,960
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1266
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1270
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Speaker 2: He's labeled a backup, and there's good reason. We'll tell

1271
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: you in just about a minute who he is. All right,

1272
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: he is Alex Ferman. I'm Andy Fermanize if Jeff Schwartz

1273
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: and we talk about sports and sports upron of funny,

1274
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: they really are because players are placed in various groups

1275
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: and sports. There's starting pitchers, there's relievers, there's bench players,

1276
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: the backups. Okay, you could be labeled as some sort

1277
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: of a player. I wouldn't know, because again I didn't

1278
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: play the game right. You would know about that.

1279
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: But you know the game well enough that you're playing

1280
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: the game.

1281
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: But when you played, and I'm sure you were on

1282
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: various teams and you scratched your head and say, why

1283
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: did this coach put this kid on the B team

1284
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: when he should be starting. You've see that all the time.

1285
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: And sometimes its attitude, sometimes his practice skills. He's not

1286
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: practicing hut and if it comes late. There's various reasons.

1287
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: You know that. Okay, they are One such player who

1288
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: thinks he should be a starter at least this year

1289
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: is Carolina quarterback and the Dalton who played here in

1290
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with the Bengals. Let's take a look. You started

1291
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: last year fourteen games for the Saints, and the Saints

1292
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: obviously weren't happy with him. They wanted an upgrade, so

1293
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 2: they signed Derek Carr's a free agent. Okay, Carolina Panthers

1294
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: signed at Dalton. That was before the draft. And guess what.

1295
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: The Panthers took the number one pick. They drafted Bryce Young.

1296
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: So maybe Dalton thought he's gonna start over with the rookie.

1297
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: That ain't happening. You drafted the number one guy. He

1298
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: ain't happening. And sorry he stepped in poop twice he did.

1299
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna happen, you know.

1300
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: And he thinks he's a starter, right, yeah, yeah, he

1301
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: thinks he's a start. He thinks you should be starting

1302
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: over young. Here's the thing, this, this is my opinion

1303
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: after reading this, you know, there's a time in every

1304
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: every athlete's life where they are simply not the best anymore. Now.

1305
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Andy Dalton was the best quarterback

1306
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: in the world, but he was a good quarterback here

1307
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: in the Bengals.

1308
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: He was a good quarterback back when he played college

1309
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 4: for TCU, but not anymore. Right, And he's not a

1310
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 4: top tier quarter not a top tier He was like

1311
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: a safe quarterback, which is why one of the reasons

1312
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 4: why I think the Bengals drafted them out of TCU.

1313
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: And maybe they liked his his mechanics. Maybe he's a

1314
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 3: smart ballplayer, maybe he had really good game knowledge, which

1315
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: is what you want out of a quarterback. But you know,

1316
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: let's think bigger picture here, dad, Right, Okay, at this time,

1317
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: Andy needs to think how else can I help my

1318
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: team to win? That should be his mentality. He knows

1319
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: that Young's gonna start. What can he do to still

1320
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: help his team win and still participate in team practices

1321
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: or even participate on the team, right, be a mentor

1322
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: to Young?

1323
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: That's the game, Okay. I understand what you're saying. In

1324
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: the perfect world, that will be a great situation. But

1325
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: I think that's more of a coaches jot to get

1326
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: him to do that, because when he comes out and says,

1327
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: I view myself as a starter, I don't think there

1328
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: were thirty two guys better than me. Really, I mean

1329
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. Almost got to get him in the room

1330
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: and smack him around a little bit. Yeah, First of all,

1331
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: he's not a kid anymore. Was he thirty five? I mean,

1332
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: his best days were behind him, and his best days

1333
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: weren't that good. He took the Bengals to five straight playoffs,

1334
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: big whoopie do? Okay, never got passed the first round.

1335
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: All right. He's an adam adequate quarterback, functionable quarterback, okay,

1336
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: and he needs tremendous personnel around him to be a

1337
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: great quarterback, which you'll never be. Bryce Young's the future.

1338
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: He's not gonna play. That's it you now. Since twenty sixteen,

1339
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: Dalton has a record of thirty three fifty one to

1340
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: one and eighty five starts for the Bengals, Cowboys, Bears,

1341
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 2: and Saints. Now, I don't think it's fair to judge

1342
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: a quarterback on a one lost record, but look, that's

1343
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: that's what it is. His completion percentage over that period

1344
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: of time is below sixty three percent, not good, and

1345
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: just a one point seven touchdown to interception ratio one

1346
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty touchdowns seventy one i iNTS. And you

1347
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: can't blame one team because he played during that period

1348
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: of time Cincinnati, Dallas, Chicago, and New Orleans. So his days,

1349
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: he's lucky.

1350
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: He's in the league. That's true, collecting a good freaking

1351
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: chet's day. Come on, that's true. That's true.

1352
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: And so going back, you know, put your pride aside, right,

1353
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: mentor the young guys, share your n with young and

1354
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: build up your next quarterback. That's his role now, and

1355
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I think that's what Carolina's vision was

1356
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 4: is when they picked them up, they knew that they

1357
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 4: were going to get young in the first round.

1358
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: In case young fault is early on Panics and we've

1359
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: got a good backup of a professional guy who's been there,

1360
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 2: done that.

1361
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: There's going to be opportunities for him to play, and

1362
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: in those opportunities, that's when he'll shine in those moments,

1363
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: but also shine in the moments when you're mentoring, shine

1364
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: in the moments when you're not on the field, when

1365
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: you're not in the spotlight. That's Andy's position now, and

1366
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: he just needs to recognize that.

1367
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: The fact that he's the fact that he's coming out

1368
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: saying he's.

1369
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: Better than thirty two other quarterbacks, that's ridiculous. He was

1370
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: never better than any thirty two quarterbacks any year that.

1371
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: He was in the league.

1372
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. Look, he had a nice career. He's made

1373
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: a lot of money, you know, Thank goodness. He never

1374
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: really got injured heavily, you know, a couple of arm

1375
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: injuries and then whatever it may be. But you know,

1376
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: move on and move on with your life. That's it.

1377
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not better than thirty two others. I mean,

1378
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: I guess he though going to Carolina. They had some

1379
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: quarterback problems prior to him there, but they got him

1380
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: right before the draft. And then when they do Bingo,

1381
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: Bryce Young forget it. You know, all the air lettle

1382
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: out of his balloon. I understand what he's saying, but

1383
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, with that kind of an attitude, I don't

1384
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: see him mentoring Bryce Young. I don't.

1385
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think hopefully the coaching staff like puts a

1386
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: little bug in his ear and says, hey, look, this

1387
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: is this is your your position here on the team. Now, Okay,

1388
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: you're going to be a great backup quarterback. We're going

1389
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: to utilize you, Andy, but at this moment, we need

1390
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: you to build up the young players. We need you

1391
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: to share the game knowledge of playing in the NFL

1392
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: to playing on this platform.

1393
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: We need you to do that for it. I don't

1394
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 3: to play like Andy Dallon, No.

1395
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I really. Let me give you some

1396
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: background here. Obviously, he took the Bengals to five straight

1397
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: playoff appearances, but he went oh and four playoff starts.

1398
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: He missed a fifth playoff game with the ad injury.

1399
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: He threw one touchdown in those four games, and guess what,

1400
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: he had six eighth deceptions. The team reached the playoffs

1401
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: just twice in the twenty year per years prior to

1402
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: Dalton's arrival in Cincinnati, so that was a plus. Okay,

1403
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: so the playoff appearance is. That's a nice change for Cincinnati,

1404
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: but the playoff losses mounted big, and big and big.

1405
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: He hasn't started in an NFL playoff game since twenty fourteen,

1406
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: all right, he hasn't led a winning team since twenty fifteen.

1407
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: But he still believes he's worthy of being a starting

1408
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. I don't think so, I don't

1409
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: think and I don't dislike him. He's done a lot

1410
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: of charity work. He's done a lot of great things.

1411
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: He really has. He is a good kind of starter.

1412
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: He's a great quarterback for your organization. He really is,

1413
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 4: and he has good he's smart in the game, but

1414
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 4: he's he's not a starting quarterback and not anymore at

1415
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: least right and now. He just needs to recognize in

1416
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: this position and his time in playing. He just needs

1417
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: to mentor the young guys. If you don't like it

1418
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm doing to you, Yes, exactly, you're a mentor of.

1419
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: Some people think you're mentoring me.

1420
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: But if nothing going to commentating, I think you'd be

1421
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: a great commentator, sports analyst. You know, you don't think so.

1422
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: You wouldn't look on TV. You know why he's got

1423
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: red hair. I just it just it doesn't go well,

1424
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: it's just getting red Beard now. I mean, come on,

1425
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: and he really it doesn't go well.

1426
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: No, I think that's his position now, and he just

1427
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: needs to recognize.

1428
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: He's he is a good guy, but he's not What

1429
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: about he's not starting face music. We move on, Alex

1430
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: firm and Alex said, for Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Firman.

1431
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: By the way, the NFL is pointing the finger at

1432
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: the wrong people. That's coming up next right here on

1433
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Live for the Tirack dot Com studios.

1434
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: But first, here's our guy. He knows it all, Kevin

1435
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: Wyane with the sports Well maybe not quite all, but enough.

1436
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: I guess.

1437
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 6: The talk of the town, at least over there in Cincinnati,

1438
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure has to be La de la Cruz. I mean,

1439
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 6: he's had one of the best starts to a career

1440
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 6: I can remember in a while. And on Saturday he

1441
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 6: had quite an accomplishment, quite an impressive feet high.

1442
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 7: Light kick coming to the plate, He'll steel third base

1443
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 7: Ellie Dayla Cruz will without even a throw the third baseman,

1444
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 7: Brian Brian Anderson didn't even go.

1445
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: That was trving home.

1446
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 6: Turn you sick that's the Reds Radio network with the

1447
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 6: call Ellie Day La Cruz stealing three straight bases in

1448
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: the seventh inning on just two pitches, including stealing home

1449
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 6: right there. As Cincinnati now leads the n L Central

1450
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 6: by two games. They did that by beating the Brewers

1451
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 6: eight to five. There was a no hitter thrown on Saturday.

1452
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 6: It wasn't one pitcher, was a combined no no by

1453
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 6: the Tigers as they blanked the Blue Jays two nothing,

1454
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 6: Matt Manning going six and two thirds of those innings,

1455
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 6: and funny enough, he didn't even know that he had

1456
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 6: a no hitter going when he was pulled. Yankee's beat

1457
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 6: the Cubs six to three, Gara Cole nine to two.

1458
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 6: Now on the season, Red Sox beat the Athletics ten

1459
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 6: and three, as Oakland now a dreadful twenty five and

1460
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 6: sixty six this season. In the AL Central, it's Cleveland

1461
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 6: seizing the league. They beat the Royals ten to six,

1462
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 6: and that's because the Twins fell six to two to

1463
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: the Oriols, so they swapped spots into the AL Central

1464
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 6: Division standings. Out West, it's the Dodgers pounding the Angels

1465
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 6: ten to five. They take all four games in the

1466
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 6: Freeway Series this year. The Diamondbacks beat the Pirates three

1467
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 6: to two, so they maintained their half game lead in

1468
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 6: the National League West. In the NBA, they announced their

1469
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 6: new format for the end season tournament on Saturday. It's

1470
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 6: going to take place mostly in November. Group play. It'll

1471
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 6: be three groups of five teams each three each in

1472
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 6: the Western and Eastern conferences. They'll have the semi finals

1473
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 6: and finals in early December in Las Vegas. The grand

1474
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 6: prize each player on the winning team will get five

1475
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars. Greg Popovich is getting a five year

1476
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 6: extensional take him through his age seventy ninth season in

1477
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 6: the College ranks. A lawyer for West Virginia coach Bob

1478
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 6: Huggins sending a letter to the school saying Huggins never

1479
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 6: resigned after last month's Duy arrest and that he expects

1480
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 6: to have his job back. In soccer, Megan Rapino will

1481
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 6: retire after this year. And on Sunday, it's the US

1482
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 6: women's national team getting their final tune up before they

1483
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 6: head off to the World Cup. As for the men,

1484
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 6: they'll be playing Canada in the Gold Cup quarterfinal later

1485
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 6: this evening. And at Wimbledon on Saturday, it's top seed

1486
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 6: to Carlos Acarez winning. Novak Djokovic plays later today.

1487
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, older, keV, hold it, do you

1488
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: know this, Stut, here's a stat for you. The Cincinnati

1489
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Reds right now with fifty wins. You know, they're only

1490
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: twelve wins shy from their total win total from a

1491
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: year ago. Is that amazing?

1492
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 6: Wow?

1493
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: Twelve?

1494
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 3: We can't remember that big of a turnaround at least

1495
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: in a while.

1496
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: I know they won sixty two games last year. They

1497
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 2: got fifty wins ready now.

1498
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 6: I'm sure their season total bat probably are almost already hit.

1499
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 6: I think the over on that was sixty five. I think, well, yeah,

1500
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 6: think they got a couple more weeks to go for that.

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Speaker 2: There we go, thanks, keV. In an hour, All right, now,

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: this story won't die. And that's right around the corner

1503
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: because here's Alex Ferman and for Jeff Schwartz, who got

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: bon and barrel betting coming up about seven eight minutes

1505
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: from now, and we talked about the NFL and their

1506
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: PR machine, the soap upper storylines that keep the league

1507
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: always in the news. There's always NFL news, and there's

1508
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: another story the NFL that was claiming that the Kansas

1509
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles they wore the wrong

1510
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: cleats for the Super Bowl. Why they say that because

1511
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: river the field condition the controversy. Obviously it's not over

1512
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: the slippery conditions. The owners have been asking the league

1513
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: why the heck was the plane surface so slippery? And

1514
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: the NFL blamed the players on both teams. You know

1515
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: the field conditions. You know about that players can wear sneakers,

1516
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: they could wear longer, shorter studs on their on their spikes.

1517
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 2: The Eagles pass rush to us on Reddit. He called

1518
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: the field the worst surface that he ever played on.

1519
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: And players right now they all want grass surfaces because

1520
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: you know it's safe where they say it gives it

1521
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: a little more for the knees. So, you know, to me,

1522
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: blaming blaming the Eagles and the Chiefs, I mean to

1523
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: me that that's terrible. First of all, both teams played

1524
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: in Arizona a year ago. They knew what the field

1525
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: was like, so obviously you can't blame them. This whole

1526
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: thing is a mess, But again, it keeps the NFL

1527
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: in the news.

1528
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, for those who don't know the home field, the

1529
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals is unique in that the grass is in

1530
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 4: a giant rolling track and every day the entire field

1531
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: is rolled outside of the retractable roof stadium, yes, where

1532
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 4: it can be underneath the Arizona sun, and then it

1533
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: can be rolled inside back inside on Chilean and Knights. Now,

1534
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring up the name George Tama. He's also

1535
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: known as the Sodfather. Ninety four years old. He worked

1536
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: for every Super Bowl that there was and he's a

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: longtime groundskeeper. Now, his comment was that the field was

1538
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 4: overwatered in the day's lean to the game.

1539
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: That's right, it was overwatered. The field should have been

1540
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: left outside in the Arizona sun to dry out, but

1541
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: that never happened. They watered it on a Wednesday in

1542
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: preparation for the game. They watered it. They rolled it

1543
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: right back into the stadium, and you know they're preparing

1544
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: the stadium for the game, so they got tarps out

1545
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 3: on it and everything else like that. The water the

1546
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: grass never had a chance to dry up.

1547
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: So it wasn't really fair that the NFL is saying

1548
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: it was a teams problem. It was the groundskeeper's problem.

1549
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: It was the grounds keeper problem.

1550
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: Okay, and the teams obviously they were slipping and sliding

1551
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: all over the field in the first half. Now reports

1552
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: have come out they say that several Eagle players actually

1553
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: did change their cleats at halftime, so they knew, but

1554
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: it didn't help. If the new cleats had just as

1555
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 2: been as the old cleats, that I would see it

1556
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: to point out that the field was the primary reason

1557
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: for the slipping, and you can claim that it is.

1558
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: So now we find that out, But why do we

1559
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: find that out in July when the Super Bowl was

1560
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: in February. Why do we find that out now?

1561
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1562
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: I can't wrap my hand around it. Because the field

1563
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: didn't have time to dry out enough.

1564
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: It caused the turf get this to have a funky

1565
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: odor to it, and then.

1566
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: Whether and then eventually the field is started to rot

1567
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 4: and de kay underneath the player's.

1568
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 3: Feet as they're playing the game.

1569
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 2: Yes, amazing.

1570
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 4: Now you got to think about you know, this has

1571
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: been a notorious field because they've had similar issues. I know,

1572
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 4: because they play bowl game or bowl games there, college

1573
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: bowl games there, high school games there and having a

1574
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 4: bad field condition. And I'm not talking about if it's

1575
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 4: downpour and rain and the field's muddy.

1576
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 3: Right, there's nothing that anyone can do about that situation.

1577
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: But the fact that the field is inside a dome,

1578
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 4: it's controlled, right, they have control of the condition of

1579
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 4: the field. Right, And in a bad field conditioned players

1580
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 4: they can't make cuts. And I bring this up because

1581
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 4: of the magnitude of the game, right, you're playing the

1582
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. You want to be able to do what

1583
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: you can do, the running back making cuts, wide receivers

1584
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: making cuts on the fieldieldrun and running backs, right, that's it.

1585
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 4: So you want to be able to do that. But

1586
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: in bad field conditions, when you know that they have

1587
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: the ability to make the best field conditions, can they

1588
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: possibly can't. You can't plant your foot which could go

1589
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: which won it could cause a big, a big outcome

1590
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 4: in the game.

1591
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: Right, Well, if and if slides in the mudd and

1592
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 2: your need goes one direction, then goes to the aco.

1593
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: And then then that goes to my second point.

1594
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: Players can really get hurt on a bad condition on

1595
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 4: the field, and especially when something that you have control.

1596
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: But going back to my first point, if they if

1597
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: they're not able to make a normal cut that they

1598
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: were able to make say on a on a turf

1599
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: field or even a field at home. Right, if they're

1600
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 3: not able to do that, that has a huge effect

1601
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: on the outcome of the game.

1602
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: Sure, right, because we know that some running backs can

1603
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: make a cut and go for a forty forty yard

1604
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 4: run to the end zone and it turns the tide

1605
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 4: of the entire game. Right, So it's a huge disadvantage

1606
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 4: to who's ever playing offense, and it's a huge disadvantage

1607
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: to all the players on the on the field because

1608
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: the risk of gain.

1609
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 3: Hurt is higher than normally than what they're normally make.

1610
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: An interesting point because when if I'm an owner of

1611
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: a team and I'm investing big time money for these athletes,

1612
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: world class athletes, and the last thing I want to

1613
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: do is pay them and see them get hurt. I

1614
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: want to make sure they're playing on the best conditions

1615
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: they possibly can. Why do I bring this up? I'm

1616
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: thinking of Pittsburgh for some reason. Why because in the

1617
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 2: stadium they play at Pittsburgh used to be three rivers

1618
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: and they changed an ten ten million times. They have

1619
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: like two to three high school games there on Saturday,

1620
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: all right, they're chewing up the field. University of Pittsburgh.

1621
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: The Panthers they play there on Saturday, and then the

1622
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: NFL is going to play there on Sunday after the

1623
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: field is all chewed up. It's not right. If I'm

1624
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: an owner, I don't want that. And maybe that's why

1625
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: they want the the not the natural grass. They want

1626
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: the the artificial official so it doesn't get chopped up.

1627
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: But that's not good for the knees. Okay, because grass

1628
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: they do claim gives and that's the problem. And they

1629
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 2: like the artificial Why because not only do they use

1630
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: the stadiums for for football, these are for concerts and

1631
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: other situations. So this we have to keep on replanting.

1632
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: Saves the money, I get it. Yeah, But if you're

1633
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: paying these guys big money, you want to see that safe.

1634
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: That's the key.

1635
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 3: Get this.

1636
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: This George Toma guy, the end of the Sofather, the Sodfather.

1637
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 4: The NFL field director Ed Manigan was under George Tama

1638
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 4: really at one point. So he learned everything that Georges knows.

1639
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 4: And George told him the field is in bad condition

1640
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 4: and then listen to him amazing, unbelievable.

1641
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 3: How about that?

1642
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: The bottom line is, well, we won't see a Super

1643
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: Bowl in Arizona for a while.

1644
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: No, not until they changed the field condition.

1645
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, the NFL, don't blame it on

1646
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: the coaches, don't blame it on the organization, don't play it,

1647
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 4: blame it on the players or even the cleats. The

1648
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 4: NFL really really needs to investigate.

1649
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 2: Then they do need.

1650
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 4: To take but they won't, you know they won't, but

1651
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 4: they need to take ownership because honestly, they're putting players

1652
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 4: in their careers in danger.

1653
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, I'm surprised when you think about that.

1654
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: Why a player has not yet had a lawsuit against

1655
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: the league for a bad field condition if he has

1656
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 2: a season ending or career ending injury to prove it? Well,

1657
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: I mean, can you prove that? Well? Now, I guess

1658
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: you could say with the sod fall, they could say, well,

1659
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: they didn't they wanted it too much, which created a

1660
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: situation which I slipped on my my a cl went out.

1661
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: I guess you.

1662
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: Could well say it's a close game, say there were

1663
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 3: say it was by three points, right, the kicker slips,

1664
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 3: falls and it's a bad field goal and that's the

1665
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: end of the game.

1666
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 8: Right.

1667
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 3: How do you how you could he justify, you know,

1668
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: losing a Super Bowl game on a bad field. Whose

1669
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: fault is that if you couldn't get a normal grip

1670
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: or normal tracks that he normally would. But they'll say, oh,

1671
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: that's all part of the game. No no, no, no, no,

1672
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: no no no no, not on the Super Bowl, alright,

1673
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: not in the Super Bowl.

1674
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll talk about that with Jeff Schwartz

1675
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: next week. You're in for Jeff. Now he's Alex Firman.

1676
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. Then this is what you can really

1677
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:02,000
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Speaker 3: Put funny to sleep people, get my money.

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Speaker 6: I'll put your brain to sleep, betting.

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01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it is Alice Breman in for jeffs. You got

1692
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: some pressure, but you're doing the picks for Jeff right now.

1693
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: And he knows his stuff. He knows his stuff. He's

1694
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: the man who knows this stuff as well. The big ee,

1695
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: Ethan Millin. That's going on, Ethan, what's going on?

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Speaker 8: I definitely know a lot about our first topic of

1697
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 8: the day, Cricket World Cup qualifier. We got here Sri

1698
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 8: Lanka versus Netherlands.

1699
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: Huh even up? Uh? You know you've got a computer

1700
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: here in front of the Alie. You could look up

1701
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 2: like that's what Jeff does. He looks up this the

1702
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up cricket. I don't even know what

1703
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: that is. You can't even spell it. It's not a CA.

1704
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 8: You know.

1705
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: Every time I do this game, I know, I don't

1706
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 3: know what the outcome is of the last time I

1707
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 3: was on the show. It's better that way, Okay, you

1708
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: can go first, give me Netherlands, real, give me Netherlands. Yeah,

1709
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: why would you say that while you picking? Because I

1710
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 3: can pronounce it.

1711
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll take Sri Lanka. Then I didn't even know

1712
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: they had a team.

1713
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 8: Look at you guys, already at it? All right, let's

1714
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 8: go to boxing.

1715
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 3: Why not? Right?

1716
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 8: Yes, like this sounds right. You just go by the

1717
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 8: name and it sounds like that guy can box. All right,

1718
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 8: let's go with this. Uh no, Ndo Donair versus Alexandro Santiago.

1719
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 3: Go to buro.

1720
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you have a Guestea.

1721
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: Who's who has home court advantage? There's no home Give

1722
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 3: me Santiago. That was fun.

1723
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: He does sound like a boxer, right, yeah, yeah, you

1724
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: know what this guy? I mean? If you have your

1725
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 2: name on the back of your little cape that you

1726
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: wear as a boxer, how do you fit? No, Nino

1727
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: d whatever it was on there. I'm gonna go just

1728
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: out of curiosity.

1729
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 3: I'm going, yeah, sounds pretty cool.

1730
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: It does? Is that? An oo?

1731
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 8: No?

1732
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: So it's no any oh?

1733
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah about that? All right? Why not?

1734
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 8: All right?

1735
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 3: Onto? Uh what have we got here? Uh? Darts? Back

1736
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 3: to darts? Aren't really excited?

1737
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: Do google darts if you want.

1738
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1739
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 8: So we got Michael Van Gerwin versus Girwin Price. So

1740
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 8: we got last name Gerwin and got Girwin with the

1741
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 8: first name.

1742
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: All right, you're up.

1743
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: Uh, you know this is this is my white sport.

1744
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: She's the best at really or dark. Yeah, oh yeah,

1745
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 4: it's like a hill secret. I phone her and she

1746
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 4: ought to get me. She probably does. She probably follows

1747
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 4: a text. Yeah, I'm gonna go with price.

1748
01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: Really give me.

1749
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm going with and I'll tell you why. Anybody who

1750
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: has like the van in there. I mean it's kind

1751
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: of like a higher class of individuals, a little more money,

1752
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: probably was raised with darts. Yeah, I'm just thinking that way.

1753
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 3: You maybe maybe play dark prep school or something like that. Yeah, yeah, alright,

1754
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 3: I see it, Yeah, I see it.

1755
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 8: Okay, On to rugby Rugby really exciting here lead the

1756
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 8: Leads Rhinos versus Southford Red Devils.

1757
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: The who Red Devils?

1758
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: Southford?

1759
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: Who is that at?

1760
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 8: Don't I'm assuming this is like Premier League rugby maybe so.

1761
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: Uh, you're up.

1762
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: There's home court advantage on this one, right, Yeah, we

1763
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: don't know what the game is Southford Southford? Yeah yeah,

1764
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: give me Southford. I'll take home court advantage. The Red

1765
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 3: Devils yeah yeah.

1766
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. I like the Rhinos. They just

1767
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: they're intimidating, you know what. I mean, you go on

1768
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: the field and you see the jersey with a picture

1769
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: of a rhino. It's intimidation. The only sports is intimidating.

1770
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: The only rhino I know is at the Cincinnati Zoo,

1771
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 3: and every time I go visit it, the rhinos sleeping.

1772
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 3: Not very intimidating.

1773
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: It's not on a shirt. That's why it's on a shirt.

1774
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: You're playing against them. It's different. Really, give you see

1775
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: the rhinos teeth and that big teeth, the mouths always closed.

1776
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 3: We got one more, we got one more?

1777
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 8: Okay, table tennis. It's gonna be ying Chang Sun versus

1778
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 8: Ming Chen.

1779
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: They probably related.

1780
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: Brothers.

1781
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: Uh, who do you go?

1782
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 3: Give me? Ming Chang Chen Chin.

1783
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: I'll go with the Sun. I'll go with the young son.

1784
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: You you have it, There, you have it. I'll let

1785
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 3: you guys now next week.

1786
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: There we go. Hey, could he really be the very best?

1787
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell you next right here on Fox. All right,

1788
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: the numbers don't lie. That's coming right up. Welcome everybody,

1789
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Speaker 2: you think I'm gonna let you off easy, you got

1796
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Speaker 2: another thing coming to you. Because we started this show

1797
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 2: two hours ago six o'clock Eastern time AM, and we

1798
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 2: talked about what is a sport, what it's an athlete?

1799
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: And after two hours of talking here have you changed

1800
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 2: your mind as to what a sport is? We highlighted

1801
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: I guess if you want to call it highlighting Joey

1802
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: George Chestnut, who down sixty two hot dogs and buns

1803
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: on the July fourth Nathan's hot dog getting contest. He

1804
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: wins that for the sixteenth time. Is he an athlete?

1805
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: In your mind? We kind of both agreed that he is. Yeah, okay,

1806
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: But is hot dog eating a sport? I guess no,

1807
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's it's an activity.

1808
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: It's it's an event.

1809
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: It's a disgusting activity, disgusting event. Who the heck ever

1810
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: came up with that idea? Honestly, well, I'll give that

1811
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: that's it's a great promote for Nathan and I love. Yeah,

1812
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: he's making a living out of that. Yeah.

1813
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: All right, So have you changed your mind or anything

1814
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 2: as far as athletes are sports?

1815
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 3: The first two one, you know, I I understand why

1816
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: you would say that if you can hold a beer

1817
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: in your hand, it's not considered a sport.

1818
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 4: I can't understand that that that ought to be an activity.

1819
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: I still think that synchronized swimming is a sport, even

1820
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 4: though that you don't think it is.

1821
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: And you can't hold a beer in the pool.

1822
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: No, you can't hold the bear.

1823
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta think that they're honestly athletes. I

1824
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 4: can't imagine how big they're legs. What about ballroom dancing?

1825
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 4: That's an Olympic sport?

1826
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: Now, that's an Olympic sport.

1827
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 10: Yes, who's making these decisions? People who can't. It's the

1828
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 10: people who can't perform normal sports. They create these games

1829
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 10: for the chess. Chess is a game.

1830
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: It's an Olympic sports Chess.

1831
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

1832
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: That's not a sport.

1833
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 3: There there's no physical exertion that you have to go

1834
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 3: through in order to move upon.

1835
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: Think about mind, I said, if you hold the beer.

1836
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 2: It's not a sport like cornhole. Okay, if you don't Schwitz,

1837
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: it's not a sport. If you don't let you don't

1838
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: know that term sweating, Yeah, okay, if you don't Schwitz,

1839
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 2: it's not a sport. Well, then I guess a jockey, Ryan.

1840
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 3: Horse not the horse does the horse does?

1841
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: Let's move on. Now we talk about the goat of

1842
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: all coaches. When you hear about the goat the greatest

1843
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: of all time, I guess one name pops up. That's

1844
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, right, he may pop up in all sports.

1845
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Think about that, really, I mean know, Greg Popovich. I

1846
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: just heard cave at the top of the hour that

1847
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: Papovich got a five year extension. It's gonna be coaching

1848
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: until he seventy nine. I had. Unless you, unless you

1849
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: really study the NBA, you don't realize he's the old

1850
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: time winning this coach in the NBA, Greg Popovitch. Okay,

1851
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: But like one name pops up in all the sports,

1852
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. You know, if he coaches two more years,

1853
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: he could break the record for the most wins by

1854
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: a coach in NFL history, which is tremendous. Okay, but

1855
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: this is another situation. He could also break another record,

1856
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: the most losses by a coach. Okay, you have a

1857
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: list over here in front of you about how many

1858
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: losses Belichick has and how many was like thirteen losses

1859
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: away from that title of the old time loser.

1860
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's see here, one hundred and fifty two

1861
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 4: losses which he has, yeah, which he has two hundred

1862
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 4: and ninety eight wins, which he has no ties actually,

1863
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 4: which surprises me because all the other people here have ties.

1864
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, two hundred and ninety eight wins, that's pretty

1865
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 4: good for a coach that's been in the league for

1866
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 4: this long.

1867
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: Right, So who has the most losses right now? On

1868
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: the current list.

1869
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: The most loss is it's a tie between Jeff Fisher

1870
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: and Dan Reeves one hundred and sixty five losses.

1871
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: So basically Belichick is thirteen losses away. So I don't

1872
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: think he'll get it this year. Hopefully he does it.

1873
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm a big Fog fan. Yeah, I'm a Belichick fan.

1874
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: Maybe if he coaches two more years, he'll get that.

1875
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. So we have that thirteen

1876
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: losses away from tying Dan Reeves and Jeff Fish. Now

1877
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: the all time win list has Don Shula, the late

1878
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 2: Don Shula coach of the Dolphins, with three hundred and

1879
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: twenty eight wins. George hallis three hundred and eighteen, and

1880
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Belichick has two ninety eight. But here's

1881
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: the wrinkle in the whole situation. Former NFL quarterback Michael Vick,

1882
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: who happened to have played in Philadelphia for Andy Reid,

1883
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: who is now the Kansas City Chiefs coach. He says,

1884
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: Andy Reid is the goat. All right, let's talk about

1885
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: this for a second. Belichick has six Super Bowls. Do

1886
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 2: you have to win a championship to be considered the best?

1887
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: I say, in today's world, you do. If you don't

1888
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: win a ring, you're not going to the Hall of Fame.

1889
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: That's basically what it's all about, right.

1890
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: You know, no, And I'm gonna answer your question, And

1891
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 3: I got a follow up question here for you, all right,

1892
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: So I don't think you have to have six rings

1893
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 3: or even a ring to be considered a great coach.

1894
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: Now, of course Andy Reid has gotten a few rings,

1895
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 4: but he's one in Philadelphia's one in Kansas City.

1896
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 3: Yes, but what makes a great coach is really what

1897
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: they're able to do for the program. Think about that

1898
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 3: turning around a program. I don't think you have to

1899
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 3: be a great coach to have champions chips to consider

1900
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 3: to be a great coach. Take a look at Zach

1901
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: Taylor for an example. I think he's a great coach.

1902
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 4: He is someone who was able to flip an organization

1903
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 4: on its head and turn it around. And that's a

1904
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 4: great coach. Look what he was able to do for

1905
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:22,839
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals.

1906
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, but let's back up, let's put the brakes on

1907
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: this for a second. First of all, I don't think

1908
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's track record is worthy of any comparison to

1909
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: anybody else. When he retires, if he coaches five, six,

1910
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: seven more years, then we'll discuss Zach Taylor's record. Okay, Yeah,

1911
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: he got a Joe Burrow and basically Joe Burrow has

1912
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: taking Zach Taylor's you know, coaching legacy to another level. Okay,

1913
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: as maybe Bill Belichick with Tom Brady, all right, but

1914
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 2: who knows, Maybe another coach wouldn't have won with Tom Brady.

1915
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't know. Remember one thing, Yes, Tom Brady

1916
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: helped Bill Belichick at six Super Bowls, but the personnel surrounding.

1917
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: You know how many Hall of Fame receivers that Brady

1918
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 2: have maybe won one? Right, think about that. So he

1919
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: didn't have the great personnel. They won with Brady, but

1920
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: they wont a great defense too because of Belichick.

1921
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 3: That was gonna be my question.

1922
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 4: So do you think that Belichick would have gotten to

1923
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 4: six Super Bowls had he not have Brady?

1924
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: So well, the Belichick haters will come out and tell you, well,

1925
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 2: he coached in Cleveland with the Browns and he lost. Okay,

1926
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: so he came to New England and he got Brady

1927
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: and he won. Yeah, Brady made a difference. But I

1928
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: think this guy is a tremendous football mind. Okay. You

1929
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: know Vince Lombardi, may he rest in peace, was a

1930
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: great coach. He coached in Green Bay even when he

1931
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: was ill on his near deathbed, and he went over

1932
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: to coach to Washington Redskins. They were the Redskins back then.

1933
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: He won, He won in Washington. He was a great coach.

1934
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: There are some people who have a DNA in their

1935
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: system that can win no matter where they go, they

1936
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: can win. And there are some coaches that bounce around

1937
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 2: and they can't. I mean, some coaches can win regardless

1938
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 2: of the person they could win. And I'll tell you

1939
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: this much, I think Andy Reads one of them. Didn't

1940
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: have tremendous personnel. Yeah he's got Patrick Mahomes now, but

1941
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: he's winning. He's a great coach.

1942
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 4: Now, I would agree Andy Reid is a great coach.

1943
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 4: What he was able to do in Philadelphia and then

1944
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 4: now in Kansas City. I would agree with Michael Vick

1945
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 4: that he's a goat. He's one of the greatest coaches.

1946
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: Ever. What about I'm gonna throw you a curveball here,

1947
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 3: Paul Brown.

1948
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question because I think the

1949
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, who have formed in nineteen sixty eight, they

1950
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 2: were the fastest expansion team to make the playoffs. Ever,

1951
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: that he had some great players. He had to lake

1952
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: Greg Cook, who was a quarterback there, who took them

1953
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, and who know how great they could

1954
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: have been if Greg Cook didn't get hurt. You know,

1955
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 2: he was playing the Kansas City Chiefs at the time,

1956
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: and I think someone rolled on his shoulder and he

1957
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: never really came back and was the same. Yeah, you know,

1958
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 2: if that happened today, he'd be back playing in three weeks. Yeah,

1959
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: you know, medicine has just changed so much since that

1960
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: point in time. But he was a great coach, a

1961
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: great visionary, and it brought a lot of things to

1962
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: the game of football, like the helmet, you know, plays

1963
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 2: from the bench, things like that. A lot of things

1964
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: that he developed in the game of football that has

1965
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: used today. So Paul Brown was an innovator as well

1966
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 2: as a great coach.

1967
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: So he's considered a great coach, but he's never won

1968
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Ran seven championships, four in the aaf

1969
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 4: C and then three in the NFL, but never actually

1970
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl.

1971
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Ok but one of the greatest coaches. Okay, but give

1972
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: him a break. He coached back in the All American Conference,

1973
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, with tremendous players in Cleveland. They didn't have

1974
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. But he went every year. He really

1975
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: he went. He had the great Jim Brown, He had

1976
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: great players over there. So you know, you can't knock him.

1977
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: He was a winner and he always wasn't winner. But

1978
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, again in today's in today's sports, with pressure,

1979
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: with social media and the way the media is set up,

1980
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: if you don't win, you ain't going anywhere. You're not

1981
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: going through the Hall of Fame. And that's a shame.

1982
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm going back and I'm gonna date

1983
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: myself and look at great players back even the sport

1984
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 2: of baseball, like a guy like Ernie Banks who won

1985
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: the MVP for the Chicago Cubs and back to back

1986
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: years when the Cubs finished last. That would never happen today.

1987
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: That would never happen in this day and age. As

1988
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Ernie Banks, who have went over

1989
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: five hundred home runs in his career, may not have

1990
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: even made the Hall of Fame because of the team

1991
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: he played for. That's the way people judge athletes today.

1992
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: That's the way they judge him.

1993
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to your original question. Do you

1994
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 4: have to win championships in order to be considered a

1995
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 4: great coach?

1996
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 2: I think it helps.

1997
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: I here's my answer. Here, here's there's there's There's gonna

1998
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 3: be two views of this, right all right? The first

1999
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 3: few yes, right, yeah.

2000
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 4: The second view are gonna be players like Michael Vick

2001
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: that says Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches

2002
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 4: ever because what he was able to do for the game,

2003
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 4: do for the organization, and he's done that at multiple organizations,

2004
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 4: He's done multiple.

2005
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: Well, what gives Andy Reid some some some pus is

2006
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 2: the fact that not only did he do it in Philadelphia,

2007
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: he did it in Kansas City. See. And that's why

2008
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Michael someone can say, well, well if it played for him,

2009
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 2: and that's what no, I agree, I mean, did play

2010
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: for him. That helps. But the fact that Andy Reid

2011
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 2: did it in two different places, that that seals the

2012
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: deal for me.

2013
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 4: But there's a view that's that's us two guys behind

2014
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,440
Speaker 4: the mike, and we're looking at the number of championships

2015
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 4: that he's won. Oh, he's the greatest coach. But then

2016
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 4: there's the other view is the players that had interactions

2017
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: with the coach, that played with the coach, that's gone

2018
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 4: through games and gone through through the mud with the coach,

2019
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 4: and they see a whole different side of this guy

2020
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 4: that we don't see. We're only looking at numbers with

2021
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 4: the guy or for the guy. But they're playing with

2022
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 4: the guy, They're they're interacting with the guy. And there's

2023
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 4: that view. So the answer, you have to have six championships.

2024
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 4: You have to have championships in order can be considered

2025
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: a great coach.

2026
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. But you know what, I'll

2027
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 2: another direction. I think that even if you have championships,

2028
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: that may not even make you a great coach. And

2029
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 2: I got to check this out. Maybe you could google

2030
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: this for me. When I was growing up and I

2031
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: love the New York Football Giants, that was my team

2032
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 2: when they played at Yankee Stadium. They had a coach

2033
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: by name of Ali Sherman, Al I. E. Sherman. He

2034
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 2: won championships with them in sixty one, sixty two, sixty three.

2035
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame. He

2036
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 2: was a great coach. Okay, y A. Tittle was the

2037
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: quarterback at the time. They had great receivers in Del Shaffner,

2038
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Thomas was a tight end, Joe Morrison running back

2039
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 2: from the University of Cincinnati. But I don't think Ali

2040
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Sherman's in the Hall of Fame.

2041
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 4: Sherman is a member of the National Jewish Sports Hall

2042
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 4: of Fame, but the Long Island, New York.

2043
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but not in Canada hat Non Cannon Okay. So

2044
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: there's the argument over there that you can win and

2045
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 2: you won't be recognized for the wins that you have.

2046
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 2: So it goes both ways. You're right, you could be

2047
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: a great coach as far as championships, but not considered

2048
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: worthy enough to be in the Hall of Fame. All right,

2049
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: and he was great, I mean three years in a row,

2050
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 2: that was a great feet. What do he did with

2051
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: the Giants way back then? And I know I can't

2052
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: remember what I did yesterday, but I remember when I

2053
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 2: remember that. It's true, those are my teams. I grew

2054
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: up with those teams.

2055
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 4: So what would happen if Bill becomes Belichick?

2056
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Belichick? Bill?

2057
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 4: What if happens if Bill ends up being the one

2058
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 4: coach with the most losses? Does he lose all that

2059
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 4: integrity that he gained, all that all that motion of

2060
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 4: winning the six Super Bowls?

2061
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 3: Does what happens? Does he still go into Canton? Well

2062
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 3: he'll he'll be in Canon.

2063
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: Okay, but the media right now they're like wolves, they're

2064
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: waiting to pounce on him because ever since Brady's gone,

2065
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: he's had like a five hundred record. Yeah, he's had

2066
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,879
Speaker 2: a back he's like and he hasn't made the playoffs

2067
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: what two years?

2068
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 3: Three years?

2069
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 2: So you don't want to have your legacy remembered like, well,

2070
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: you were great with Brady but after Brady, you didn't

2071
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 2: do anything, and that's that's what they're gonna do. They're

2072
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: gonna pounce on him. He'll get in. He's got to

2073
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: get in. With the six super Bowls, he's got to

2074
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: get in. It's like the situation where Corey Dillon we

2075
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 2: talked about earlier today. He's got to get into the

2076
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: Ring of honor. He's the all time leading running back

2077
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: on that team with yards and carries. Got to get in.

2078
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 2: But it'll take time, and there'll be a lot of

2079
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: pushback now with Belichick if he doesn't make the playoffs

2080
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: this year, and as you say, if he coaches the

2081
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: year after this and gets the thirteen losses and is

2082
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: the old time leading loser, there'll be a lot of

2083
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: negativity on him. And it's a shame.

2084
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 3: It's a shame. It's a shame. It kind of turns

2085
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: his legacy.

2086
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

2087
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's funny because now there's there's a

2088
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 3: point of view, is like, Okay, so Belichick won six

2089
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: super Bowls with Tom Brady, but once Tom left, right,

2090
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, he couldn't really do anything. So what

2091
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 3: all those years he was just coasting and he was

2092
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 3: just getting the credit for winning all these ballgames, all

2093
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 3: these all these super Bowl games.

2094
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: And amazing where he stands right now. And I guess

2095
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: you know, longevity does that to you. You're gonna get

2096
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: a lot of wins, but you also got to get

2097
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: a lot of losses right now. Here's where Belichick stands

2098
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 2: on the old time list for most regular season wins.

2099
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: Don Shuler number one of three twenty eight, the late

2100
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: George hallis for the Chicago Bears, popa Bear number two

2101
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: with three eighteen. Belichick number three at two ninety eight.

2102
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: Now here's where Belichick stands on the old time wins list.

2103
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: This includes playoff games, Okay, which really isn't that fair

2104
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 2: because there are a lot more playoff games now they're

2105
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 2: the one when Shula Coastal hallis coach. But that's just

2106
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: the way it is. Shoela has three hundred and forty seven,

2107
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: Belichick three twenty nine, so it's possibly he needs eighteen

2108
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: one wins to pair Shula for the most wins in

2109
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 2: NFL history including the postseason. This means the race is

2110
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 2: officially on, with Belichick thirteen losses away from sitting the

2111
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: record for the most losses and eighteen wins away from

2112
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: sitting the record for the most wins. It's going to

2113
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 2: be interesting to see which one he breaks first. And

2114
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 2: I got to say probably the losses. I hope not.

2115
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe if they can turn the organization around.

2116
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 4: The Yeah, it would be tough for him, but I

2117
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,440
Speaker 4: think I mean it's not saying that it's not impossible.

2118
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 4: I mean he could get up to that eighteen wins

2119
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 4: and he could become, you know, the most winning coach

2120
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

2121
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: Well we'll see what happened. But you know what, when

2122
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 2: you talk about the goat, and I think Belichick's name

2123
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: always gonna come up there. I mean, at one time

2124
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: it was Vince Lombardi. You know the fact that Michael

2125
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Vick threw Andy Reeve's name out there, I think it's

2126
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 2: good because I don't think you hear enough. I don't

2127
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 2: think he gets enough credit. Yeah, I really don't.

2128
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 3: I think everyone recognizes that Andy Reid is a great coach.

2129
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 3: Everyone recognizes that.

2130
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 4: It's only now I think that he's just solidifying that

2131
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 4: for himself. Yeah, he is the slid fighting And I

2132
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 4: love that Michael Vick spoke out and said that.

2133
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he was just speaking to everybody's

2134
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 3: mind honestly.

2135
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,839
Speaker 2: That Yeah, now I'm with you right there. He's Alex Ferman.

2136
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: He's in for Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman. And by

2137
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: the way, you could get us on Twitter. Get me

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Speaker 2: at least on Twitter and Andy Ferman FSR thread for

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Speaker 2: Alex Ferman. It's threads underscore al E xf you R

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Speaker 2: or bety at eighty seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 2: That translates to eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty

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Speaker 2: three sixty nine. We got the blame game at the

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Speaker 2: end of this hour, so don't go anywhere. But Fitz

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Speaker 2: is in a haze. That's right around the corner. It's

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Speaker 2: time for the name game. Yeah, we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: in just about a minute. He's Alex Furman, he's in

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Speaker 2: dot Com Forward slash match. Okay, this is a topic

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01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: that has gone on for eons, and it's back on

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01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: the news again. You know, news recycles itself pretty good.

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01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks, I've been seeing a lot

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Speaker 2: of shark attacks stories on the news on CNN and

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Speaker 2: everyplace else. Okay, they didn't have that for a while

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Speaker 2: several years ago. It comes back again. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: just a recycling of the stories. That's what they do.

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Speaker 2: But you know, we know the name game because we

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Speaker 2: know several professional sports teams have abandoned their indigenous names.

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Speaker 2: And like the Washington Commanders they're formerly the Redskins, the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Guardians they're formerly the Indians, and some teams at

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs and the Braves have kept their names.

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Speaker 2: But now there's a band in New York, in New

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Speaker 2: York State. Okay, and I'll tell you what happened. This

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Speaker 2: is just the other day. So people can say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we heard about these stories. No, no, no, this is

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Speaker 2: new The state's banning names on Native American mascots, and

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Speaker 2: it leads the districts to abandoning the names. When the

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Speaker 2: Canandagua Academy football team in upstate New York takes the

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Speaker 2: field this fall, they will not be the Braves for

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Speaker 2: the first time in about seventy five years. The Canandagua

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Speaker 2: City School District is one of dozens in New York

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Speaker 2: that are retiring Native American inspired team names, mascots, and

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Speaker 2: logos after the State Education Department banned their use this

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Speaker 2: past April. In the Rochester area Canandagua schools. They've had

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Speaker 2: the Braves name since nineteen forty nine. Many people, especially

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Speaker 2: those parents and grandparents who are alumni, they're upset about

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Speaker 2: removing the name, said Jamie Farr, superintendent of the school district.

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Speaker 2: They talk about history, so there's a fact right there

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Speaker 2: why they maybe shouldn't remove the names. Maybe they should.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a topic that's gone on and

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Speaker 2: on and on, and a lot of pressure has created

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Speaker 2: changing Like in Cleveland with the Guardians from the Indians.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, Dad, I get it, I really do. They.

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Speaker 4: I get that they want to make sure that everyone

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Speaker 4: is included. They don't want to disrespect anyone's group. But

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Speaker 4: what I don't get is the.

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Speaker 3: Whole to me just sounds like the cancel culture that's

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Speaker 3: happening all over the place right the cancel culture of

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Speaker 3: pressuring others to change a name or to change a mascot.

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Speaker 3: And from my understanding, you know any one of these groups.

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Speaker 3: Don't I don't see protests and correct me if I'm wrong, Dad,

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Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't see protests

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Speaker 3: of changing the name or changing the mascots.

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Speaker 2: I don't see the protests. I don't see a lot

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Speaker 2: of protesting on Okay, it's funny you say that, but

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Speaker 2: this is happening. Like right now, at least nine states,

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Speaker 2: including Oregon, Vermont, and Nevada, have passed lords or regulations

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Speaker 2: banning Native American inspired or discriminatory mascots. Okay, and now

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Speaker 2: on the New York's Band, which is a new band.

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Speaker 2: School boards must have passed resolutions committing to eliminating these

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Speaker 2: names and imagery by this past Friday, and they must

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Speaker 2: remove them fully by the end of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty twenty five school year, and schools that

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Speaker 2: don't comply could have stayed funding withheld. This is unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: all right, And now we say the massive Peak or

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Speaker 2: Long Island Public Schools passed the resolution just last week

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Speaker 2: saying it would comply with the band. But get this,

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Speaker 2: they would challenge the band in court to keep the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs name. To keep the Chiefs name, okay, And they

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Speaker 2: say it's no secret. The Chief's logo is not just

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Speaker 2: an image, the school board said in a letter. It

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Speaker 2: is massive Peak's history and has been adopted by more

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Speaker 2: than just our school district. I think the history deal

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Speaker 2: is not a great reasoning to keep the name. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Things have gone on for years that have been wrong

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Speaker 2: in this country, you know, for whatever reason. So just

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Speaker 2: to say it's been that way all the time, I

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Speaker 2: don't go for that. But if no one's really protesting

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Speaker 2: and has a major problem with it, why change it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I understand if you upset one person, you

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Speaker 2: got to change. You don't want to upset anybody. But

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Speaker 2: someone's going to be upset and you change the name

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Speaker 2: right now, obviously all those people in the past are

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Speaker 2: being upset.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, my high school I went to Dixie Heights

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Speaker 3: High School and we were home of the Colonels.

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Speaker 4: Right, So there's two things, right Dixie that that kind

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Speaker 4: of South Civil War South, you know, it corresponds with

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Speaker 4: the South, right, But they're not going to change Dixie

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Speaker 4: Road Dad, They're not going to change Dixie Highway and

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Speaker 4: change the name.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to change Dixie Heights High School. And

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Speaker 3: then the colonels, right, what does the colonels?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll got the south right, right, But there's

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Speaker 4: no one protesting from the school commanding them to change

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Speaker 4: the name of the of the high school, you know.

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Speaker 3: And but I.

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01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 2: County High School in northern Kentucky reel and they come

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01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: out there with a rebel flag at halftime. But I

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01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 2: haven't seen anybody complaining. I think it's wrong, though.

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Speaker 4: I get not disrespecting anyone's group. And I backed that

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I want to make that clear. I

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01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 4: backed that one hundred percent. But to change these schools.

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Speaker 3: That have been you know, and and it.

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Speaker 4: Works for years and years and decades and decades, Dad,

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Speaker 4: all just to change the name for the Chiefs to

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Speaker 4: something else, I don't know, Like, like it's that the

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Speaker 4: is that the fight that's going to solve everyone's problem?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 4: Is that going to be the resolution to solve everyone's problem,

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Speaker 4: to solve the world's problem, or to solve this specific problem.

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Speaker 3: Is that the resolution? I don't think that's the resolution. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think there's bigger works that needs to be done

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 3: before before we start tackling high school high school mascots.

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Speaker 2: And the argument they're having in this massive peak of

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Speaker 2: school district in Long Island, New York, saying that being

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Speaker 2: a chieved was platoff his identity, adding that she thinks

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 2: the name is meant to honor Native Americans. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the reasoning why Kansas City never changed

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Speaker 2: their team name in their football in the NFL to

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01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 2: cut the Chiefs, because it's basically that, look, there's still

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Speaker 2: a lot if you're gonna do it, do it across

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Speaker 2: the border, don't do it at all. But oft the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Blackhawks and hockey, I mean you still have the

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Bravest and baseball. So this thing has been ongoing,

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Speaker 2: and now New York was to fight over team names

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Speaker 2: and they're getting it done on the high school level.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that if it's bad, it's bad for all,

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01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 2: not for some, right, and there's still some that haven't

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Speaker 2: because I cannot believe that Boom County gets away with rebels.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Why why doesn't Peter step in and push a change

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Speaker 3: to change the Chicago Cubs name that's sin or Cincinnat

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01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 3: Bengals name or the or the Dolphins, the manor you know,

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Speaker 3: how come that's not happening?

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Speaker 2: You know, well, look, I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: But so, like like I said before, you know, there

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Speaker 4: is a change.

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01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 3: That needs to be made right, right, and he backed

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Speaker 3: the change.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: You can't do some, you gotta do all or none? Yes, right?

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01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: So now in just the hand picking states when I

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01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 2: read this, there's gonna be Oregon, Vermont, Nevada. They've passed

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Speaker 2: laws in New York. Now where's everybody else?

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 8: Or?

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01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: I mean, is it just bad for them? It's gotta

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01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 2: be everybody or none? That's what. Hey, we're gonna pick

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01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 2: this up in a minute. Maybe take some phone calls

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety on Fox eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six sixty three sixty nine or at Andy Fommann

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Speaker 2: episode or Thread underscore Alex if you are, will do that,

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Speaker 2: and also I want to talk about something that's happening

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Speaker 2: at Northwestern University. Will do that. But first, Kevin's got

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Speaker 2: all the sports. Let's call Kevin wired.

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Speaker 6: Well, Wimbledon getting started today or continue, I should say

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Speaker 6: today the Action has already commenced. Novak Djokovic one of

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Speaker 6: the notable players who has a match today. Top seed

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01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:19,520
Speaker 6: to Carlos Alcaaz won his third round match on Saturday.

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Speaker 6: In the NBA, the league announcing the format for its

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01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 6: new in season tournament. It'll take place mostly in November.

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01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 6: It'll be six groups of five teams, three each in

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Speaker 6: the Western and Eastern conferences, and the semi finals and

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01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 6: finals will take place in early December in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 6: The grand prize each player on the winning team will

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01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 6: collect five hundred thousand dollars. The Spurs extending Greg Popovich.

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 6: They're giving him a new five year contract that will

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01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 6: carry him into his age seventy nine season in college basketball,

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01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 6: a lawyer for a former West Virginia basketball coach Bob

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01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 6: Huggins sending a letter to the school saying Huggins never

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01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 6: resigned after last month's to Uyi rest and he expects

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01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 6: to have his job back. In soccer, Megan Rapino saying

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01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 6: she will retire after this year, and the women's national

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01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 6: team getting their final tunea before they head out for

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Speaker 6: the World Cup. The us men with a Gold Cup

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Speaker 6: quarterfinal match tonight against Canada, and in Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 6: a couple of impressive feats on Saturday. First, the Tiger's

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01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 6: throwing a combined no hitter as they blink to Blue

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Speaker 6: Jays two nothing. Matt Manning going six and two thirds

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Speaker 6: and when he was pulled in the seventh, had absolutely

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Speaker 6: no idea that he had a no no going. And

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01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 6: Elie de la Cruz in Cincinnati, Man, what more can

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01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 6: we say about him? He continues to impress and on

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01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 6: Saturday stole three bases consecutively on two pitches, including home plate.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely incredible. Cincinnati two games ahead of Milwaukee in the

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Speaker 6: NL Central standings that he had beat the Brewers eight

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Speaker 6: to five. In the AL Centrals, the Guardians and the

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01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 6: Twins swapping spots as Cleveland beat the Royals ten to six,

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Speaker 6: Minnesota losing to the Orioles six to two, So it's

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Speaker 6: Cleveland on top by half a game. In the NL West,

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01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,799
Speaker 6: the Dodgers pound the Angels ten to five. They sweep

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Speaker 6: all four games in the Freeway Series this year, the

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Speaker 6: Arizona Diamondbacks winning against the Pirates three to two, so

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01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 6: it's Arizona still a half game ahead of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: In the National League West. Back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, keV, have a great day. Thanks for all

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01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 2: you do for us. There Kevin Whye, there you go,

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Speaker 2: all right. Alex Ferman in for Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman,

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Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com. I got the blame game coming up

2349
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 2: in about seven eight minutes from now. Let me give

2350
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 2: you some statistics here on these schools with names. Okay,

2351
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 2: there are about nineteen hundred schools in the US. I'd

2352
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 2: use Native American inspired team names. According to this advocacy group,

2353
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 2: which has defended Native Americans and tribal rights for decades now,

2354
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty two review of twenty six studies concluded

2355
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: that these mascots have negative mental health impacts on Native Americans.

2356
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:14,520
Speaker 2: The American Psychological Association in five called for such mascots

2357
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: to be discontinued, citing a growing body of social science

2358
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: literature that shows the harmful effects of racial stereotyping. Okay,

2359
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand that, But why has it

2360
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: only been in the states of Oregon, Vermont, Nevada, and

2361
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 2: New York? Is it across the board? Do it to everybody?

2362
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Or do it to no one? That's all I'm saying.

2363
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 2: All right, that's the craziness of this, I really is.

2364
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 3: No. I agree, I absolutely agree, And I don't think

2365
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 3: changing the names of high school football teams or high

2366
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 3: school mascots solves the bigger issue. I think we should

2367
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 3: tackle the bigger issue and not do these I hate

2368
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 3: to say small projects. I don't know them. I agree.

2369
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 3: I'll just have to agree with you there.

2370
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: All right, Now, you talk about bigger issues, here's a

2371
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 2: bigger issue for you, and you play the game of football,

2372
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 2: something you can relate to this. Okay, h Northwestern University

2373
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 2: and outside of Chicago, Everston Illinois their football coach Pat Fitzgerald,

2374
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 2: and I love him. I think it's great he played

2375
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 2: for them. He's been issued now an unpaid two weeks

2376
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 2: suspension effective like right now, following an investigation into hazing

2377
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 2: allegations within the program. All right, hazing, and look, you

2378
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: played football and a hazing kind of goes hand in

2379
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 2: hand with football, was there or has that been hazing

2380
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,799
Speaker 2: in your high school and or college players with playing

2381
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 2: days when you played football.

2382
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 3: You know, I think when a lot of people think

2383
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 3: of hazing, they think of certain things. You know, maybe uh,

2384
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,719
Speaker 3: getting pushed into a locker or you know, doing things

2385
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 3: that you don't want to do. You gotta you gotta

2386
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 3: do it to be a part of the.

2387
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 2: Team, right, you know what your upperclassmen do it to

2388
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: the fresh.

2389
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, being being forced to you know, drink

2390
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 3: chug a beer. That's a form of hazing.

2391
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 2: People, have you seen it?

2392
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: I luckily, in my experience, I was never exposed to hazing.

2393
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 3: I've never saw it in.

2394
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 2: The college team, never had it.

2395
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 3: I guess it was more like I just saw maybe

2396
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 3: some borling bullying in high school. It wasn't really hazing.

2397
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 3: When I think of hazing, I think it's like something

2398
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 3: that people do as an initiation to get into a

2399
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 3: group or to be accepted in the group or.

2400
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 2: Something like that's player against the goalposts and throw balls

2401
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 2: at him and you know, with his pants off or

2402
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 2: something like that.

2403
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, that's that's okay.

2404
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 2: Now in Northwest and they have a practice called running

2405
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: and involves a younger player being restrained while eight to

2406
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: ten older players engaged in sexualized act in the locker room.

2407
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 2: All right, it's its versions of running took place during

2408
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 2: certain portions of the year, including Thanksgiving and Christmas. And

2409
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: this was by an anonymous player. A former player told

2410
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 2: the Daily Northwestern newspaper about this sexualized hazing. You know,

2411
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 2: and again, the coach is going to be responsible. He's

2412
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 2: sort of like the CEO of the organization. He may

2413
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: not know of knowing is going on, but it's his responsibility,

2414
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 2: so he's taking the blame for it.

2415
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 4: He's taking the you know, first off, this is just

2416
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 4: a disgusting thing and absolutely thing I don't I don't

2417
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 4: understand what goes through some people's heads, right that says,

2418
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,519
Speaker 4: let's do this, this is.

2419
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Right, let's have something.

2420
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 3: This is just part of being on the Northwestern's football team.

2421
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 3: I would expect that is disgusting. But can a coach

2422
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 3: really know what's going on in the football locker room

2423
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 3: at all times? Right? Think how many things you know?

2424
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm not defending that this is okay.

2425
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 4: This is not okay, right under any circumstances, this is

2426
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 4: not okay. But just take a step back for just

2427
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,839
Speaker 4: a second and think how many things the head football

2428
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 4: coach has to juggle all at one time. There's no

2429
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 4: way that the football coach is looking in the locker

2430
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 4: room and seeing what's going on the locker room.

2431
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 3: It would be impossible.

2432
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 2: He's responsible twenty four to seven because he'll get a

2433
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 2: call at two in the morning if one of his

2434
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 2: guys gets at DUI. Yeah, right, So he's he's there

2435
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,440
Speaker 2: all the time. He's like the parent. That's that's basically

2436
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 2: acting as a pairent when the parent's not there. That

2437
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: that's what he is. In local parentis they.

2438
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 3: Call that I. I. It must be so hard being

2439
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 3: the head coach.

2440
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 2: You know, the coach's easiest part of the game planning,

2441
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 2: that's easy. The other stuff, the other that's what we

2442
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 2: have twenty hours in a day.

2443
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. But you'll take a step back here, dad,

2444
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 3: Is it the coach's responsibility to really know what's going

2445
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 3: on in the in the locker room at all times?

2446
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 3: Should there be a leader on the football team, the

2447
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 3: quarterback on the football team, the captain on the football

2448
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 3: team to keep an eye of what's going on in

2449
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 3: the locker room and to report back to the coach,

2450
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 3: or not even report back. Step up and be the leader,

2451
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 3: be the captain that you're a finding and stop it. Yeah,

2452
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 3: what happened to that? How come he's not suspended? Because

2453
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 3: maybe how come the quarterback is suspended.

2454
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Because the captain and or quarterback usually it is the

2455
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 2: same person did not have that gumption, that the backbone

2456
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: to do it because maybe he was involved doing it.

2457
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 2: You just don't know, I mean, but you would expect more.

2458
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 2: You want to you want to get a leader that

2459
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 2: could really truly be a leader. Yes, and I guess

2460
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 2: they weren't, But I feel bad. I mean, Northwestern would

2461
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: be like one of the last schools I suspect for

2462
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 2: hazing when you think about it, I mean, it's almost

2463
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 2: like an IVY League school in Northwestern. Yeah, but you

2464
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 2: just I'm not mentioning names what I would not be

2465
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 2: surprised to hear from other schools, but Northwestern. I was shocked, Yeah,

2466
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 2: I really was.

2467
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 3: I was really shocked about that this came out.

2468
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 4: First off, it's just a completely disgusting act. But I

2469
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 4: just I don't know if all of the responsibility really

2470
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 4: should fall on the head football's coach.

2471
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 3: I don't think it should, Dad.

2472
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 2: Well, who and who it's got to be.

2473
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 3: It's got to fall on the players, but.

2474
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 2: It's got to be also someone who's a paid person

2475
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 2: from the university or to college, someone who's basically.

2476
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 3: What about the ad? How come to ad?

2477
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 2: He was not in the locker room.

2478
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 3: Neither is the coach. Dad.

2479
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you that the coach is not in

2480
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 4: the in the locker room twenty four to seven watching

2481
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 4: what the guys are doing.

2482
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 2: Okay, do me a favor now, because this is really

2483
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 2: discussing between this and talking about the hot dogs with

2484
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 2: Joey Chest making me sick. Let's talk about this diet

2485
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: before we roll out of here and the next segment.

2486
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: This diet is Boston College offensive lineman Kyle Hergel. Tell

2487
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 2: me what he eats. He's like six to two, three

2488
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: hundred and two pounds, and you gave me a listing

2489
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: of what his daily diet is every single day he

2490
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: talked about discussed laying on me.

2491
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, first off, he starts at six am.

2492
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 4: That's way earlier than you wake up every day six am,

2493
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 4: pre workout, overnight oats and breakfast sandwich.

2494
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 3: That's where he starts, right nine am post workout tart

2495
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 3: cherry juice. They have multiple vitamin or multi vitamin Vitamin D,

2496
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:56,560
Speaker 3: smoothie watermelon and PBJ o'clock in the morning, the whole watermelon.

2497
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: Is that? What that means? He eats on the entire war.

2498
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 3: We have the watermelon. That's not too bad, right, smoothie

2499
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: watermelon and PBJ. One o'clock. This is lunchtime, tacos and toordolini. Okay,

2500
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 3: four o'clock protein and card bowl for dinner, two chicken wraps.

2501
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,679
Speaker 3: And at ten o'clock this is right before bed, whole

2502
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 3: protein shake.

2503
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 2: Very good. All right, I may follow this.

2504
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 3: That's a full day.

2505
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: Might do it for a week, okay. Alex Furman, Andy Furman,

2506
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 2: you're in for Jeff Schwartz right here, Fox Sports Sunday.

2507
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 2: It's finger point the time. Why why why you answer?

2508
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: The blame game is next on a blame game coming

2509
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: right up. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Alex Furman

2510
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 2: and for Jeff Schwartz, I'm Andy Furman and when a

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Speaker 2: Of course, top of the hour, there'll be nine o'clock

2517
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 2: on the East coast, Dan Byer and my guy Bucky Brooks.

2518
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: What a combo. That is not a luck Eastern time.

2519
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 2: But right now it's time to play the playing game.

2520
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 3: You ruin me.

2521
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: It's all your fault.

2522
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: It's your fault, all your fault.

2523
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's fault.

2524
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: A liar, that's why there's the blame game. Let's figure

2525
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: out who to blame.

2526
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who the playing here's the finger point to himself,

2527
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 2: the big a Ethan Miller.

2528
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 8: Guys, it's been a pleasure hanging with the firm and

2529
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 8: duo again.

2530
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thanks for hanging out with Yeah,

2531
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: always a pleasure to be with you guys.

2532
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 3: Yes, So.

2533
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 8: This whole thing on Wembin Yama, you know, not having

2534
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 8: a good uh you know, summer League game and people

2535
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 8: already talking about how he's a bust and blah blah

2536
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 8: blah blah blah. I just have a curios I just

2537
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 8: have a question for you guys about NBA scouts having

2538
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 8: a tough time to get talent correct and top five

2539
01:55:58,880 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 8: picks correct.

2540
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 3: Who's to blame for this?

2541
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 8: Because it's not really address really when they get get

2542
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 8: things wrong.

2543
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of the problem with Victor who only had

2544
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 2: nine points in his first start in the NBA Summer

2545
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 2: League with San Antonio. Is not his fault. It's Britney

2546
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: spears fault. It's in his head. Now, Britney Spears has

2547
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 2: a condo in his head. Really, he made him crazy.

2548
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: She made him crazy. He doesn't know what to First

2549
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 2: of all, he probably never heard of her. What do

2550
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: you think you think I ever heard of Britney Sears?

2551
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: He's too young.

2552
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 3: Everybody star shrucked. Now you can't Now, you can't get

2553
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 3: damaged of Brittany out of his head.

2554
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she she she missed him up already.

2555
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 2: And women could do that to you though I'm not saying.

2556
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm just just say it could happen, all right. But

2557
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: the scout thing, you know it, it's a crop. Shoot,

2558
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 2: you know what a guy's gonna do. Come on, That's

2559
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 2: why I can't stand when these guys laughed. When I

2560
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 2: hear these people say this stuff, Hey, look at that kid,

2561
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 2: what's his name? On the Lakers that back what wasn't

2562
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 2: even drafted. It's great. I love them.

2563
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,839
Speaker 8: Right, all right, American, Let's just put it this way.

2564
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 8: People are talking fancy football and it's not even halfway

2565
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 8: through July.

2566
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 3: Who's to blame for this addiction? It's the fans. They

2567
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 3: can't get they can't they can't get enough of the NFL.

2568
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,400
Speaker 3: They're just obsessed, you know, they sleep, eat, and and

2569
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 3: and do everything. NFL.

2570
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: They people you with your friends, your friends. It's the

2571
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: fans your friends.

2572
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's obsession to go to AA meetings or go

2573
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 3: go get.

2574
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 2: Help or something. Problem more, there's more to lies. Come on,

2575
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 2: you know what they know? I can't stand. I'm watching

2576
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 2: baseball games on TV and after the fourth inning they

2577
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 2: got these comer. What do you think we are? I

2578
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 2: like the fourth They're crazy. The remedy down your throat,

2579
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna be so many people walking around with barrels,

2580
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 2: have no clothes left debating it. It's enough, but with

2581
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: your head, as they say, not over.

2582
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 3: It all right. Most people are saying the.

2583
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 8: New Andy Indiana Jones movie isn't that great?

2584
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 3: Who's to blame for this.

2585
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 2: His age.

2586
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 3: Four to a hundred years old. How long is the guy?

2587
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 2: Come on, be like making me Indiana Jones? Come on?

2588
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 3: Are they making another movie? He made? He made a

2589
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 3: couple back in the early nineties, late eighties, for the

2590
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 3: for the gelt, for.

2591
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 2: The g Yeah, it's by for the It's always for

2592
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 2: the green cabbage.

2593
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 3: Who thought that was a good idea?

2594
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

2595
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 8: Last last one, last year before we get off here,

2596
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 8: So Alex is not on every week? Who's the blame me?

2597
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 8: He begs, he begs, he begs Scott not to put

2598
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 8: me back.

2599
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 3: On th.

2600
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 2: This is my worst nightmare. Really, he begs with you.

2601
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't want him here, you.

2602
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 3: Know, I right, Scott nice, I say thank you for

2603
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:08,879
Speaker 3: the opportunity. And my dad said, don't let him back.

2604
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, he's relaxing, he's calming. That's the way it is.

2605
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: We love him. I have a great day. I don't

2606
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 2: know when I'll see you again, Jeff Schwartz. I miss you.

2607
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: I miss you, Jeff.

2608
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 1: See you