1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program here in the Hunday 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio at NRG Stadium. Mark VanderMeer and John 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Harris with you as we've got a big one for 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: you tonight, talking about quarterbacks. I watched tape. We'll discuss this. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Also coming up a little bit later on Garrett Wallow 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty visited with him at an event this week, 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: star Test kickoff for Toro and Company. The Houston Texans 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: organization big on getting the kiddies ready for that. Kiddies 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: are kiddos, I don't know. We'll go with either one, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: the one and Big Sarge, who works for USA today 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: among other things. Big Sarge sports with a Z on Twitter, 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: and we'll visit with him. So, Johnny, I watched tape 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: middle of the night. I felt like you a little 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: bit here. I wasn't going all twenty two and the 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: whole thing and the end zone view versus the sideline view. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I was just doing vander watching, which means I'm watching 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: highlights basically. But I've seen like a charcuder board. Yeah, 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I've seen these guys play, yeah, But I really went 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: in a much deeper mode to examine the skills of 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: the draftable quarterbacks for the Houston Texans and anybody else 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: who might be interested in drafting them. It was a thunderstorm. 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: It was the middle of the night. Man. I looked 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: at that sucker on the radar, Johnny. I thought, this 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be the Memorial Day flood all over again, 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: because it was similar. This line of storms. It just 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: keeps coming up from the what southwest, and it just 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: keeps coming up right through the alley there, right up 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: the coast. I'm telling you. There was a bolt of 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: lightning that generated. It shook my house. And after it hit, 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: my son and I looked at each other and it 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: sounded like an explosion right next door. Yeah, and he said, Dad, 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: that's got to be within a hundred feet, and it 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: probably was. It probably was within a hundred feet, and 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it scared the fool out of me. 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: It was so scary. I didn't move. I just didn't. 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything because I didn't know what to. 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: Power stayed on. But power stayed on, yeah, somehow, and 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: we were watching we were watching Friends on HBO Max 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: and just watching that and it didn't interrupt. The internet 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: stayed on. Power stayed on. That's big. I once got struck. 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I think it was the neighbor. It was very close 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: to my house. You could feel it. It was so powerful, 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: and it fried all the TVs. All the TVs just 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: got fried. There was no way of fixing them. You 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: had to get new TVs. There was four TVs in 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: the house, so that was a rather costly replacement. People 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: are thinking, all four TVs, Vandermir. Look, you have a 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: lot of screens in your house these days. When I 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: grew up, we had one TV and then my mom 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: got one for the bedroom, right, yeah, and that was it. 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Two TVs in the house. We had well, and I'll 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: use our old house and things as an example. We 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: had one in the living room. We had a small 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: one in the bedroom. I'll tell you where I'd love 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: to have a TV. I love it. We had one 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. Oh, we've had one in the kitchen 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: for a long time. It's a little twenty four inches, 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: but having it, it's it's awesome because you get in 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: there and you cook. Like there will be days where 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: we had home games and so Saturday, just getting there, 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: I would cook meals for Jack because my wife and 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: daughter out in La so I would cook meals from 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: my son all day and just watch games. Yeah, the 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: TV right there, it was great. So you can watch 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: some Masters today. See there's that band tomorrow killing it 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Brooks Kelly, stop with these happen. If a live guy 67 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: wins this thing, better than it's going to be good 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: for Live. It's going to be a talking point. There's 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm sure the PHI does not want to 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: see this happen. So we'll see how it plays out 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend. A lot of things can happen between 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: now and Sunday afternoon. It's the Masters. We've seen a 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: lot of wacky things happen. I'm hoping a live guy 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: doesn't win it. Why are you so against live listen? 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: I just I hate throwing money at the situation when 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't even have a sound business plan. The business 77 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: plan is just to park brinks trucks in front of 78 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: people's houses. But good for kep gonna have a nice 79 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: round on Friday because we saw the Netflix show and 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: he was having a meltdown, and it proved that you 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: could have everything at your disposal, wonderful house, smoking, hot wife, 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: more money than you know what to do with, but 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: be miserable, which is what he was in that Netflix 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: hour where they featured him on that what is it? 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: The uh full swing, full swing, full swing. I always 86 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: forget the time. There's another there's another half of the season. 87 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Come no, no, no, they're done with theirs. Tennis has 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: got another half a season coming point because break point 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: they I was so intrigued by both of them because 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: I've played team sports my whole life. Yeah, so I 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: always had a teammate. I would go out there in 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: basketball four other guys, that go in baseball with eight 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: other guys. I would go on football with ten other guys. 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I was always in team sports, so the mentality to 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: me was so different for an individual sport. And there 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: was one of the one of the tennis players, one 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: of the high ranking females. I can't remember her name. 98 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: The interaction between her and her coaches and her manager 99 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: or whatever during a matchic was fantas it was. It 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: was crazy to do anything, I know, but it was 101 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: just she would talk out as if she was just 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: talking out, but she was actually talking to them. Um. 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Nick Kurios is kind of the same way. And they 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: cut off at the midpoint where they're just about to 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: go to Wimbledon. So I was fascinated because he goes 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: to Australia. He goes to Australian Open in twenty two 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: and he's They're like, how are you gonna do? Like, 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: I haven't played six months, I don't know, I have 109 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: no idea. M And he's from Australia, and they kept askling, 110 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and he ends up winning the doubles, but he went 111 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: out in the singles in the second round. Well then 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: they go to Wimbledon, and I can only imagine because 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: he gets to the finals of Wimbledon. So I can't 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: wait to see that one. But those two shows, going 115 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of individuals, it's fascinating. Nobody cares about doubles. 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. I can when mcinbro played doubles with Peter Fleming, 117 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that was cool stuff. That was way back in the day, folks, kids, 118 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: there was a tough never mind, we're not going to 119 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: talk about yeah, and look, that's what they play in 120 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: the clubs, you know, that's what the tennis ladies play. 121 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I know this because I'm heavily related to one who 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: lives in my house. All right, let's get it to this. 123 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: Good for her. Indeed, by the way, as far as 124 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: that Netflix stuff goes up, that sky what is it 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: called again, the NFL partnered up with sky Dance. Yeah, 126 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: create all this extra programming, hard knocks type stuff, but 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna go a level beyond. They're gonna have scripted entertainment. 128 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Sky Dance came up with Top Gun, Maverick, a whole 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. The Nike movie they did that, 130 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the new one with Matt Damon and Ben aff I'm 131 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: going to it Sunday night, going to it Sunday night 132 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: with my son. Yeah, my wife got me. I picked 133 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: gift cards for I don't want to go see the 134 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Mario movie because that's what my son saw yesterday. I 135 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: actually I wouldn't mind seeing it. You would see the 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Mario movie. Ye, see the Mario movie. I had to 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: pay my teenage son to take him. Listen, I'm not 138 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: seeing the Mario movie. I will pay you to take him. 139 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I do not want to sit in a theater. I 140 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: want to go see it, but I'd be okay, Yeah, 141 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: I'd be okay. But I definitely want to see the 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Air movie. But there is it? Was it Netflix that's 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: got the Quarterback Show with Mahomes, yes, Mariota and cousins. 144 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: It's cousins, Yes, those wait to see that. Yeah, that's 145 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna be great. We all want to see this stuff, 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: this inside stuff about sports. It's very compelling, but I'd 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: rather see the games, to be honest with you, and 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: that's what I did. I watch tape last night, boy, 149 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: or if we got all around here, but Johnny, I'm 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna say this. The top five quarterbacks in this draft. 151 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no particular order. Bryce Young, c J. Stroud, 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, Will Levis, Anthony Richardson. Ok I really feel 153 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: this way this. These are my takes. Okay, how hot 154 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: is this take? Okay? Any one of these guys could 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: be the best guy. Any one of these guys could 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: be the best guy. I'm not saying that you're not 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: going to project one above the other or whatever however 158 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: you evaluate them. Ice cube hot? Any one of these guys, really, 159 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: that's ice cube. That's not even hot. All right? How 160 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: about this? Two of the five will be successful, three 161 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: ye will not. Is not a pretty good percentage of 162 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the top five will be successful. We'll give you two 163 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: sizzle fires because there would be some that argue if 164 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: you look at the past history, because I know a 165 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: lot of people were like, well, if you go back 166 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: to eighty three and Sean Saith we're talking about it 167 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: this morning, and they weren't doing this. But you really 168 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: have to make your comparison in the most recent time, 169 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: within the most like five to seven years, as best 170 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: you can, because a lot of people go back to well, 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, they did this, Well, yeah, you know, twenty eleven, 172 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: there were certain ways of playing the game. There weren't. 173 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: There weren't quarterbacks that were as mobile. There weren't quarterbacks 174 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: being taken that were small right back in even twenty eleven. 175 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: So you can only go back so far when you're 176 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: you know, doing comparisons. But I feel like that's the case. 177 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I feel like two of them. But if you look 178 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: at there was only one in the first round last 179 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty one, how many do we have five? 180 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Jury still a lot on all of them, really, but 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: jury still a lot on Justin Fields. I think the 182 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: book has been written on Zach Wilson, mac Jones. I mean, 183 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: there's been talk about this organization with trade. Have you 184 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: not heard this? I've heard everything. I don't believe it again. 185 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: The longer it takes to get to the draft, the 186 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: more talk we're gonna get, the more I'm going to 187 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: talk myself into, you know, drafting Jake Haner as the 188 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: number one guy. Okay, the more you happy with that 189 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: one if that happened, well, I like him. Actually, I 190 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: think he could be the Kirk Cousins of this draft. 191 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: But I don't think he'll go that low. I think 192 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: he'll go higher. He'll go top three rounds and he 193 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: might make somebody very happy, especially a team where you 194 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: don't have to play him. He sits, watches way, somebody 195 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: gets hurt he plays. Oh my gosh, he's way better 196 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: than we thought. Maybe he should have been drafted a 197 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: lot higher, like mister irrelevant last year, brock Purty. Anyway, 198 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: Will Levis to me, if I had to rank them, 199 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: I'd probably put Levis last, which doesn't mean he's a 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: bad quarterback. But I think that even he could be 201 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the best guy in the group, could be. I'm not 202 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: saying he willby could be the best guy in the 203 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: group with the right situation, fit, coaching staff, supporting cast. 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: It's all very important when you're drafting a quarterback. When 205 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: you're projecting how good that quarterback is going to be. 206 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: But I get it about Levis. I looked at him closely. 207 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I get it. I understand the hype, I understand all that. 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: I just think the other four have a lot more 209 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: to offer. Now. I know people are listening thinking, WHOA, 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker's got the knee. Don't be a victim or 211 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: a subject of knee surgery discrimination. Okay, there's healthy knee 212 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: supremacy going on here, and there's knee and there's knee 213 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: surgery discrimination. Don't do it because Hooker will probably make 214 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: it to the starting line opening day. If he doesn't, 215 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: he'll be ready soon enough. And I'm not even talking 216 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: myself into him as a Texans quarterback, but as an 217 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: NFL top prospect. Go look at the tape, folks. I 218 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: would take Hendon Hooker and be very happy. And I'm 219 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: not saying that Texans should do that necessarily, because I 220 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: know there are other factors involved, Johnny, But I'm at 221 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: peace right now after watching these guys very closely, a 222 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of action from all these top five quarterbacks. I'm 223 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: at peace with whatever they decide to do because I 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: can talk myself into any one of these guys, I 225 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: could say, Oh, Bryce Young, look at that he processes 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: what's going on at the line of scrammage so well. 227 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: He anticipates so well. You did a terrific video breakdown 228 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: of him. Look at the way he scrambles. Look at 229 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: the way he has command of the offense. Look at 230 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the way he just wins games, flat out, does it 231 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: whatever it takes. I love all day, great c J. Strout. 232 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: Look at the Georgia game. Look how he throws the 233 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: deep ball. He scrambles too. My gosh. People say he 234 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: can't run. Of course he can run. He's got a 235 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: great arm, he's got the size, He's got everything you're 236 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: looking for. We've talked a lot about those two guys. 237 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, I get why some people thought, and they 238 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: were trying to talk themselves into him being the number 239 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: one overall pick, Like maybe the Panthers moved up so 240 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: they could take Anthony Richardson because he's a once in 241 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: a lifetime prospect. I don't think he's a once in 242 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: a lifetime prospect, but I understand why people are drooling 243 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: over this guy. Because it's like Cam Newton and Lamar 244 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Jackson had a baby or something. The way he can 245 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: run the arm is there. I know the accurate se questions, 246 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: but you pointed out last night you get a few 247 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: throwaways in a game and it just scus everything. And 248 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: not that you're apologizing for his completion percentage correct, but 249 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot of this is correctable. If he has that drive, 250 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: that ethic to improve, he can really get better in 251 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: that department, just as Josh Allen did. Now I'm using 252 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen card to justify Anthony Richardson, but I 253 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: get it. Just look at him play man. Look at 254 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the pump fakes and then the quickness, the twitch he 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: has in the pocket, even to set himself up to 256 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: throw the twitch he has, the size and when he 257 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: does run, watch out. It is electric stuff. I love him. 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I can if the Texans end up taking Anthony Richardson somehow, 259 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: some way, I'll talk myself into that, no problem. I 260 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: think everybody should be really excited. I could get excited 261 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: about any of these guys, and I don't think there's 262 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: anybody who's head and shoulders above the rest. I really don't. 263 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: I again think you can talk yourself into that. But me, 264 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Professional quarterback evaluator, Voice of the Texans Mark Vandermer, I 265 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: don't really understand why you would rate one so high 266 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: above the others. And as it is CJ Straded Bryce, 267 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: young people are talking themselves into one or the other, right, 268 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: and then the other three are sort of a debate. 269 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I've heard this, I've heard this set about Anthony Richardson. 270 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: He's kind of like a scratch off lottery ticket. Maybe 271 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: he was Seth who first said it. I don't know, 272 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: but it does have that feel in some sense of 273 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna put how much money and how 274 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: much resource, ie how high up in the draft order 275 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: am I going to have to be to take and 276 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: feel good about Anthony Richardson? Is that at one? Is 277 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: that at two? Is that at nine? Is that at fourteen? 278 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: To get the potential reward or not from my scratch 279 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: off ticket? And I think it's a pretty good, you know, 280 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: analogy in some sense to look at it that way, 281 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: because he's mesmerizing and I think a great example of 282 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and what makes him so difficult to really 283 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: you want to love. You want to love him because 284 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: you watch the Utah game, the first game of the 285 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: year in Utah is a team then went to the 286 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl and had a couple of guys not got 287 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: hurt in a Rose Bowl. I mean they could have won. 288 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: They could have won Rose Bowl. I mean they dominated 289 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: beat usc. Usc was on the customer going to the playoff, 290 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: and Utah dominated him. That's how good Utah was, Like, 291 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: that's how good Utah was in twenty twenty two, even 292 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: though Tyler Miller Millner would have told you otherwise either way, Um, sorry, Tyler, 293 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: that was a stray shot. I remember what happened this 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: summer either way against Utah. He has a play and 295 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen this. He drops to throw, and 296 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw, and he kind of pump fakes, and 297 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: so the blitzer jumps up in the air. As he 298 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: jumps up in the air, Richardson pulls it back down. 299 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: The blitzer kind of collides with him. He spins out 300 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: of the collision and continues running forward and then throws 301 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: at the back of the end zone. I think it 302 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: was a two point play that either put them ahead 303 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: or gave them a three point later, whatever it did. 304 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: But you watching go what and he's incredible in that game, Mark, 305 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: He's running, he's making great throws, Ricky Piersall's a new 306 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: receiver for them from Arizona State. He's hitting him on 307 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: in routes. I mean, he looks great. And next week 308 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: is Kentucky against Will Levis and he throws two backbreaking interceptions, 309 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean backbreaking, and you're just and he can't generate 310 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: any offense. And the offensive line was not great and 311 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Kentucky was very, very solid defensively, and they just frustrated 312 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: him all night. He couldn't do anything. And it wasn't 313 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: that it was steady against Utah, steady against Kentucky, but 314 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: he ended up winning one and not the other. It 315 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: was he was otherworldly against Utah, and he looked like 316 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a sixth round quarterback in the game against Kentucky. And 317 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: trying to balance that out, You're like, dang it, And 318 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: that's the that's the concern you have to have. But 319 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: you also know what you have in the building. You 320 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: know who your coaching staff is, you know how they 321 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: feel about coaching the prospect. Because I think the ultimate 322 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: hot romance pick in this draft, quarterback wise, is Richards. 323 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: So there's no question there are coaches who are gonna 324 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: look at him and say, I can work with that. Yes, 325 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: look at the way he runs, look at the size 326 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: to speed, the arm I can work with him. Him 327 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: in my offense is going to be electric. It's going 328 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: to be fantastic. I want to have him. Please, mister 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: general manager, do whatever it takes to get Anthony Richardson. 330 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: You can imagine coaches feeling that way. Yeah, so here's 331 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: a tweet from NFL Rookie Watch. An NFL Rookie watch 332 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: can sometimes have some like wait, what what what was 333 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: that they said this? Anthony Richardson is reportedly Frank Reich's 334 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: quarterback of choice if the first overall pick was solely 335 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: up to him. Oh. Reich is reportedly in love with 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: the upside that Richard Richardson brings to the table and 337 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: what he can be in two to three years. However, 338 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the majority of the rest of the Panthers dot dot dot, 339 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: and you know how that it's gonna go. And that's 340 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and that's the thing. Mark. You go back to the 341 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: scratch off analogy, the lottery ticket. If you were just 342 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: paying five bucks for that lottery ticket, Yeah, okay, I 343 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: e you draft. You drafted Anthy Richardson at number twelve, 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but you have the number twelve pick. You 345 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: don't want the number twelve pick to fail, and you 346 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: don't want a quarterback to fail. But think about what 347 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: the Panthers have invested in this number one over. Get 348 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: it right. Gotta get it right. You have to get 349 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: it right. And do you want to have one of 350 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the two guys that you look at it and go 351 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: not safer? I don't like to use the word safe. Well, 352 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: this guy's a safe pick. It's a safe pick. But 353 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I do feel like Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud are 354 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: probably more wound to have success sooner than maybe Anthony does. 355 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: And of course you have Josh Allen. You brought Josh 356 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: Allen up. If Josh Allen didn't exist, to Josh Allen 357 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: come into the league and he just flames out of 358 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: two or three years, it just doesn't happen for whatever reason, 359 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: accuracy just can't rain it in or whatever. Are we 360 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: talking about, Anthony Richardson, I brought this up, Yeah, and 361 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: it's a great point. I don't know that teams would 362 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: be willing to replicate that mess if it happened that way. 363 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: But Josh Allen has opened everybody's eyes too. You have 364 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that wants it. You have a guy with 365 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: supreme athletic ability, you have a coachable guy, and then 366 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: you have an offensive staff that you can take and 367 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: mold around that young guy and make that young quarterback 368 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: much better week after week after week. So I ask 369 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: you this, Let me ask you this question. Do it? 370 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: Panthers management. Everybody but Frank Reich win out and they 371 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: take C. J. Stroud or Bryce Young, either one, but 372 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: they don't take Richardson. Richardson is on the board for 373 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: you at two. Yeah, I probably how hard I'll ask 374 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: you a question this way, How hard is it for 375 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: you to go I can't do it. I've got to 376 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: go with Stroud or Young or whichever guy that didn't draft. Yeah, 377 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Because first of all, I want to know what Demiko thinks. 378 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I want to know what Bobby Slowing thinks. Right, Bobby 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Slow's gotta coach this offense. If he's standing on a 380 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: table saying I can win with this guy soon soon, 381 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't need two three years. I could probably get 382 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: it done back half of this year where he's making 383 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: gigantic plays for this organization. If they feel that way, 384 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: I gotta trust my coaches a little bit. Here. They 385 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: look at the tape they got to coach the guy, right. 386 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Nick has to make these decisions, and Nick knows what 387 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: they're going through his coaches. He's been a coach, I mean, 388 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: a smart guy. He understands, so they'll make an informed decision. 389 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: But you're right, it's difficult because of that downside upside thing. 390 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: The floor is kind of low. The ceiling seems incredibly high, 391 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: where you'll have a safer floor, a higher floor with 392 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: a CJ. Strout or Bryce Young or hand In Hooker, 393 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: who I think we're not talking about enough in this draft. 394 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: It's again knee surgery discrimination and hand In Hooker. Go 395 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: look at the tape. The throws are incredible, some of them. 396 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: I know. The offense is really good. He's got highat 397 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: to work with other sievers who are outstanding, and they 398 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: scheme incredibly well that staff. But he also makes some 399 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: tight window throws. He makes some throws on the money, 400 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: guys on the run with pressure at his face. He 401 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: also can run with the rock. Hand In Hooker is 402 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: as good as any other quarterback in here. He just 403 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have the healthy knee going into the draft. This 404 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: is what I think that once you think about one 405 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: thing first, I want you to think about an album 406 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: that when it was released it was just kind of 407 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, it was good, but it wasn't you know. 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: Or I should say a movie, Yeah, a movie or 409 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: music that was was really really good, but it didn't 410 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: get a lot of acclaim. I have one and I'm thinking, 411 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to remember Heaven in my head starts 412 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: singing a cappella. Yeah, I'll think about it, but I 413 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: want you to think about that. Think about a movie 414 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: that you knew was good but it just wasn't getting 415 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: the acclaim from people. I have a TV show I 416 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: can think about that you knew just wasn't in at 417 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: some point also people are like, that's really really good 418 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: and it just takes off. Like there are a ton 419 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: of movies like that that get life on cable. They 420 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: hit Life because they've been rerun so many times. Not 421 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: sure if shawshank I know it was highly regarded critically. 422 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it made much money. You know what 423 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: TV series was, Friday Night Lights. Friday Nightlights the TV 424 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: series was. It was being talked about, but the critics 425 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: just the critics actually say were good on it, but 426 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: just they couldn't get people watching it. But the people 427 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: that watched it loved it. I think that's kind of 428 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: hind and hooker. He was really really good twenty two, 429 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: but because the acl as you talked about, he's kind 430 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: of been off the radar screen. Here's the thing. I 431 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: think the Panthers and the Texans are fighting with and 432 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: in some respects. The Panthers just got through the Matt 433 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Rule years a couple of years to three years, and 434 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: the Texans have gone through three pretty tough years. So 435 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: I think for both fan bases in both organizations, Okay, 436 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: we want to win sooner than later. Yeah, and I 437 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: you know, nobody wants to go four and thirteen again. 438 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: But I think there are certain situations in which some 439 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: teams could look at it and go, hey, we can 440 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: a four to four and thirteen because well, you know, 441 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: we've had to release these players. Were kind of resetting 442 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: where we are, Like like Tennessee, could Tennessee a four 443 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: to four and thirteen right now if they if the 444 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: fans knew in the organization, everybody the organzation kind of knew, 445 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: they were kind of resetting things to get ready for 446 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and beyond. I think they could maybe 447 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: after what they've been through now, finishing with a seven 448 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: game losing streak. Yeah. My point in that is, I 449 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: think Josh Allen worked too because the timing. They've just 450 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: gone to the playoffs in twenty seventeen with a new 451 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott and a new GM and Brandon Bean. 452 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: They got to the playoffs. The city of Buffalo was 453 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: on fire. They were so excited. But I think the 454 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: fans also knew, look, we know, maybe we've got to 455 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: take a couple of steps back to take five forward. 456 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: So they go to the playoffs at seventeen, But what 457 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: happened in eighteen? They were like five and eleven something 458 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: like that. They weren't great. They took a step back, 459 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: but they took a step back so that Josh Allen 460 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: had got to get his legs under him, and so 461 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: they got to the playoffs. They got the fans excited. 462 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: They knew they would take a step back because a 463 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: young quarterback group. But if he's got the ceiling, everybody 464 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: talked about the man, they're gonna be really good. What 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: happened in twenty nineteen They make the playoffs. Yeah, twenty twenty, Yes, 466 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: it's COVID, but they get to the AFC Championship game, 467 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: and also in the Bills are one of the hottest 468 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: the benefit so to me, the timing of Josh Allen 469 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: worked for them, and because they had gone to the PLAYFFS, 470 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: they got fans excited. Yeah they're gonna take a step back, 471 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: but they're gonna take four forward. Unfortunately for I think 472 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: both the Panthers and Texans, we've taken three, four, five 473 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: steps backward. And yes we could with Anthony Richardson in 474 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: due time maybe take six, seven, eight ahead. But after 475 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: three long years, do we really want to do that 476 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: or do we want to win and be more successful 477 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: right now? And which guys get us there? I feel 478 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: like Bryson CJ get us there. The way I feel 479 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: about these five quarters backs is the way I feel 480 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: about the system. You can win with these guys in 481 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: the system. The Texans will implement with Bobby Slowing what 482 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: they want to do here offensively, it'll be very quarterback friendly. 483 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: That worked to the skills at a quarterback. And then 484 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: you got to think about that forty nineer staff going 485 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: so nuts over Trey Lance. I'm not convinced everybody in 486 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: the building felt the same way about the investment you 487 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: had to make draft capital wise to move up and 488 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: get Trey Lance. But clearly enough people felt like if 489 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: they had a quarterback who did what he can do 490 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: in that system, oh my gosh, it's gonna go crazy. 491 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: But we could still win with Brock Purty pretty well. 492 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: And went to the NFC Championship game and look at 493 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: the results. All right, that's gonna do it. For this segment, 494 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: Big Sarge covers the Texans. Who is he? You know him? 495 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: USA Today? He's got stuff on Twitter, Big Sarge Sports 496 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: with a Z, And we're gonna talk to him about 497 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: what he's seeing coming up to this draft and also 498 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: get to know him a little bit. Interesting guy. And 499 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: Garrett Wallow Drew Doherty check in. It's all happening on 500 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Keeping in rolling here Friday night on xan's 501 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: All Access and as promised, a Big Sarge. His name 502 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: is Brian Bearfield, but he goes by Big Sarge Sports 503 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: with a Z on Twitter, works for a USA Today's 504 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: The Texans Wire covers the other teams as well, And 505 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to break this up in two 506 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: because we had a nice long visit. It'll be on 507 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: the Vanderpot. That's right, I'm rebranding the Vandermeer's View podcast 508 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: to Vanderpod. Details to follow, but that'll be up next week. 509 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: Let's get to a big chunk of the visit I 510 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: had with Big Sarge, and we'll start here. Now, he's 511 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: dealt with a lot in his life. He's been in 512 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: the military, he's dealt with tragedy, has overcome a lot 513 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: of things. He's reinvented himself a couple of times. I'll 514 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: get into more personal stuff next week and on the Vanderpod. 515 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Let's start here. He went the Prairie View, so we 516 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: started talking about that university Prairie View. It's interesting to 517 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: me also because you know, I've driven by it, I've 518 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: seen the campus from Afar, and I keep thinking Houston 519 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: is getting out there. It's almost becoming an urban school 520 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: now because he's stretched out. When there was probably the 521 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: country and now it feels like it's almost the suburbs. 522 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: So when I went there, so now you know how 523 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: you drive up to ninety right and you just like, oh, 524 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: it's just two ninety. Well, when I went there, it 525 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: was a such thing as an old two ninety and 526 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: there was at one point there was just you know, 527 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: two lanes on the highway, and so yeah, it's I've 528 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: seen it. It's amazing because I was out of Preeview, 529 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: i want to say, a couple of weeks ago, and 530 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: every time I drive out there, I noticed, like you said, 531 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: more and more it's being built up. I remember when 532 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: you were driving out there and it was just you know, 533 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: open land, And now you drive out there and it's 534 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: stripped centers, it's stripped balls, it's outlets, it's and it's 535 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to Priview, where when I was 536 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: there you had to drive into the city, so you 537 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: have to drive into Cyprus in order to do anything. 538 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Now you can basically just drive down the street. Yeah, 539 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: it's so funny. Big Sarge with us Brian Bearfield Big 540 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: Sarge Sports on Twitter Sports with a Zeke Bubba McDowell 541 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: by the way at Prairie View, and I love bla 542 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: great Cocaines by the way, but that was a great 543 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: hire for them and a great situation for him, I think, 544 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: to coach that team. Oh yes, I got a chance 545 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: to talk to coach McDowell a lot this season, and 546 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I understood why he waited so long to take his 547 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: opportunity because you know, he had been offered jobs before 548 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: he had I think at one point was even offered 549 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: the priview job, but he even said himself that he 550 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: wasn't ready yet. He still needed to put in more time. 551 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: And when the opportunity came back around. And I'm so 552 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: happy that privew hired him because he is the right 553 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: guy for that job. He's developed those you know, foster 554 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: those relationships there. The athletes, they love him. They're willing 555 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: to do anything for coach mcdowaland coach McDowell is willing 556 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: to do anything for them. I remember one after a 557 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: practice this past season, a young man was walking off 558 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: the field and coach McDowell called him over and he 559 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: stood there, and so I got a chance to, you know, 560 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: be within earshot of what they were talking about. So 561 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: here I am thinking that he's about to talk to 562 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: this young man about, you know, some things that he's 563 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: seen during practice and you know, to help him out 564 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: as far as gameplay is concerned. Coach McDowell was talking 565 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: to this young man about life and about what can 566 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I do to help I know you're going through some 567 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: some difficult situations right now and you know, let's push 568 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: the football aspect to the side. Let's talk about life. 569 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: How can we help you, because how can we help 570 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: you become better or do better, you know, in this situation, 571 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: because if we don't handle this situation, you're not going 572 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: to be any good for us on the field. And 573 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: so I just thought like, wow, you know, and I'm 574 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: pretty sure that's the story of a lot of coaches 575 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, around the country, but just to hear that, 576 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: and especially when it comes from a coach who has 577 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, played at the highest level, you know, he 578 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: could have he could have said, well, you know, I 579 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: played in the NFL and went that route, but you 580 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: know you could tell that he went to a level 581 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: to where as here we are, we're equals. I'm not 582 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: your coach, I'm not former NFL player, I'm not a 583 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: former whatever you know, whatever you want to add to 584 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: my title. I'm just a man talking to a young man, 585 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: trying to help him out, you know, Sorge. That reminds 586 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: me a little bit of what Demiko Ryans was saying 587 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: in his introductory press conference, talking about wanting the players 588 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: to be better fathers, husbands, better people, better citizens. And 589 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: I'd rarely if ever heard an NFL coach say that 590 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: in that context. I'm sure a lot of them believe that, 591 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: but he came right out there. What was your reaction 592 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: to that, and let's get into Demiko Ryan's a little bit. 593 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: Your reaction to him being coach of this franchise. Well, 594 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: first of all, I was surprised. I never knew that 595 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that coach Ryans was from benz Mora, Alabama. So when 596 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I started doing the research, I was like, wait a minute, 597 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: And so there's only and I got a chance to 598 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: ask him this. You know, there's a couple of people, 599 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: a couple of famous people from benz Mora, Alabama. There's 600 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: the hip hop artist, you know, Gucci Maine. There's James Winston, 601 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. And I think, if 602 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: I'm not mista, an old Jackson is from there. And 603 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: so now I got a chance to ask coach after 604 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: his press conpence, I was like, coach, who's more famous? 605 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: And you know his bessemer you a Gucci man, He's like, oh, 606 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Gucci by far, and so you know, just having those 607 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: type of conversations with him from the jump. So I 608 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: got a chance to watch him play. But I never 609 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: got a chance to cover the team when he was here, 610 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: So everything that I knew about him outside of the 611 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: research came from his former teammate, Indy Kalu. So when 612 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: his name was being brought up as far as being 613 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: a candidate for the head coach coaching position, Indy said, 614 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: if the Texans hired this guy, they are getting by far, 615 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: one of the best guys. He said. There's not too 616 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: many times you can call a rookie captain, you know, 617 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: walking into the locker room like that, he said, and 618 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: he demand, he demands that type of presence when he 619 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: walks into the room. You just want to naturally follow 620 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: this guy. And so watching coach Ryans and you know, 621 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: be here and his initial press conference and then talking 622 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: to him at the NFL scouting combine, I know that 623 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans picked the right man for the job. 624 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know he could play basketball. He 625 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: hit the first shot the other night. He's the Rockets game, 626 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: and Mark before they could even finish announcing who he was, 627 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: he bucked up their band hit the shot. It was like, 628 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm done. And so that's the type of guy that 629 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: the Houston Texas. Again, it's like Hey, let's just get 630 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: the job done. Yeah. I think his form is a 631 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit better than Lovey Smith's was during the Pat 632 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: McAfee show free throw, but I gotta give Lovey a 633 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: lot of credit for that as well. But Tom go 634 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: in front of a big crowd, so you could say 635 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: more pressure at Toyota Center than on the Pat McAfee show. 636 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Although who knows. But I like it that the last 637 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: two coaches here have a free throw shooting ability. That's 638 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: very nice. Sorge, tell me your thoughts on the draft. 639 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Everybody asks me, I know they're asking you, They're asking 640 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: everybody who has anything to do with this organization. So 641 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: what do you think at number two? And then maybe 642 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about number twelve as well? So I 643 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: don't think that the Texans can go wrong by drafting 644 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback at number two, and whether that be CJ. 645 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Stroud or Bryce Young. And I'm gonna be honest with you, 646 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a little, you know, a little wrinkle 647 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: into it. I wouldn't mind if the Houston Texans selected 648 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I know that he's a young man that 649 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: is going to need some coaching to hone his skills, 650 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: but like he's just a natural athlete and watching him 651 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, if you get the right coaching and 652 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: especially with you know, new offensive coordinator Bobby Sloy coming 653 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: from that San Francisco forty Nanna's organization and the way 654 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: that they run that offense, I think that he would 655 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: fit perfect with the Houston Texans. But they definitely have 656 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback, and I don't want to, you know, 657 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: this isn't a shot at Davis Mills, but it's just 658 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: time to upgrade that position. And when you look at 659 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks that's coming out of the draft, the 660 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: one and two who people are saying and CJ. Stroud 661 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and Bright Young, they're just a natural upgrade from what 662 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans have right now at the number twelve position. 663 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: The Texans have to also take a wide receiver. They 664 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: have to strengthen that wide receiver group. They don't know 665 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, you know, we don't know what's 666 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna happen with John Mitchi coming back recovering from you 667 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: know what he was diagnosed with, going through the radiation 668 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: and the chemotherapy. You know, we don't know what type 669 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: of season Nico Collins is going to have they lost 670 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. I know they brought in Noah Brown, but 671 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: they have to take a wide receiver. And the reason 672 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: why I say that is because that naturally puts that 673 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: quarterback wide receiver combination and they can grow together. Here 674 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: you have two rookies coming again that could be the 675 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: cornerstone of your offense and say, okay, we're going to 676 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: grow together, so let's make our mistakes together at our 677 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: first year and by year three they should be on 678 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: the same page, kind of like what you know Joe 679 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamar Chase is for the Cincinnati Bengal. So 680 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: definitely I see quarterback at number two and wide receiver 681 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: at number twelve. Yeah, and if MATCHI comes back strong 682 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: and they do that, they could all of a sudden 683 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: have a tremendous group at receiver. So we'll see how 684 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: they play it. Sarge, you watch the team as a fan. 685 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: Now you're a member of the media. Do you have 686 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: a favorite all time Texan or two? Give me a 687 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of guys who have played in this organization. Maybe 688 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: they're still here, but that have been favorites of yours personally. Oh, 689 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: you mean outside of my best friend, Indy Calue. Yeah, well, 690 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: of course number one and number one for me too, sorry, Indy, Yeah, 691 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: of course. So I will say this, Jonathan Joseph is 692 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: by far one of my favorite Texans to ever play here. 693 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: And you know, not just with this player on the field. 694 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan was always is always a guy who's open to 695 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: have a conversation with you, no matter what. I remember, 696 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, walking into the locker room sometimes, you know, 697 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: after practicing, Jonathan and I would be talking about his son, 698 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, playing football up in South Carolina, or I 699 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: think his daughter that was playing soccer at the time. 700 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: And so he was always one of the guys that 701 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: was very open and receptive to me. And it's funny 702 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: because the guy that he calls his little brother and 703 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Jadeveon County was also a guy that I liked talking 704 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: to a lot, you know, and I like watching them play. 705 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: But those two guys were, you know, they stood out 706 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: for me as Texans. Um Justin Reed was always a 707 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, a very good guy that that I could 708 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: talk to. And um, it's just you know, it's a 709 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: lot of them. It's a lot of players, like even 710 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: even some of the players right now, you know, Jonathan Grenard. 711 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: I really like talking to him. And I will say this, 712 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: the person who's becoming my all time favorite, and even 713 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: though he's only played one season with the Houston Texas 714 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: is Damian Pierce. And I liked Damian Pierce because of 715 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: his story and I like the fact that he doesn't change. 716 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: He didn't come in and try to change his dialect. 717 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: He didn't try to, you know, come in here and 718 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: speak a different type of way. He's just who he 719 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: is and that's what I love about him. Man. You know, 720 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: when we were at the combine, I was talking to 721 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: some of his former teammates and he was like, you know, 722 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 1: Damian's gonna be Damian regardless of where he is. He said, 723 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: You're always going to get a young man. He's gonna 724 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: work hard for you. He's gonna give you this all. 725 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: And you know where he stands from the beginning, and 726 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: so not only with his work ethic and what he did, 727 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: what he's done on the field, but just him is 728 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: an overall person. I love that. Yeah, whenever he speaks, 729 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: I smile, no question about that. Sarge, thanks so much 730 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: for being with us. We really appreciate the time. It's 731 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: been a fun visit. All right, thank you for having me. 732 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, there's our visit with Brian 733 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: Bearfield Big Sarge. Big Sarge Sports on Twitter Sports with 734 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: a Ze works for USA Today's The Texans Wire and 735 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: covers all the teams, but of course the Texans were 736 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: the one we're most interested. And more of that visit 737 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: is coming up next week on the show and on 738 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: the vander Pod podcast, so stay tuned for details on that, 739 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: and stay tuned for details. And Garrett Wallow as Drew 740 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: Doherty checks in with him at an elementary school. We'll 741 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: tell you the story. It's coming up next here on 742 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Final segment on tonight's show, and it's a 743 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: good one. As we go out and about in the community. 744 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty at Chern Elementary where the Texans and Toro. 745 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: We're getting kids super hyped and focused on the Star 746 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: test man. That is one of those things you just 747 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: have to get ready for as a youngster in the 748 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Texas school as well. One of the elements of the 749 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: program is let's bring a player or two out there. 750 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: And Drew visits with Garrett Wallow here Garrett part of 751 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: that twenty twenty one draft class from TCU. Big year 752 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: for him. Year three is always a huge year for 753 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: NFL players. So let's check in with those two. Linebacker 754 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Garrett Wallow here at Chern Elementary. What's going on school day? 755 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Man? Yeah, I'm actually here as 756 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: a special guest. Really Toro is a special one, but 757 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: here to kind of, you know, emphasize how poort it 758 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: is for these kids to preparing going to testing coming up, 759 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: especially at a young age, and kind of just motivate 760 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: them and really to see how how happy they are 761 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: out there. I could already hear I'm screaming now, I know. 762 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: It's always that's a good feeling you hear those screen. 763 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: Normally you hear children screaming. That's that's kind of bad. 764 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: But the ones we're hearing are good. You know, He's 765 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: been doing this for a while, getting kids ready for 766 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: this test all over the city, all over the region. 767 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: How much fun is it though, just getting out and 768 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: interacting with children these days, right, It's definitely a good experience, 769 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, especially come across kids. You get to see 770 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: all the personalities, um, all the young personalities that day 771 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: and you kind of, you know, puts me back in 772 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: their shoes when you were in these same hallways, just 773 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: probably different different areas. But you know, it's always good 774 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: just to see the smile of those kids. Really. You know, 775 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: you never know where they come from, you never know 776 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: their backgrounds really, so you know this moment for them 777 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: could be very special for them, and that's why I 778 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: try to make a special for them as well. When 779 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I come a few years ago, you're a really good 780 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: test taker, aced the forty, the three cone, all that stuff. 781 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: What were you like when you're taking ease man? Uh, 782 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: same thing, honestly, Uh, it's kind of different from me. 783 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't always the best test taker. I just like 784 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: did all my work. So I had to get suited 785 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: for these tests in order to score well because I 786 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: always just like when I got to these tests, I 787 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: got real nervous. Yeah, and now, so um, what a 788 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: little bit of guy. It's a little bit of help. 789 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: It definitely helped me succeed. But yeah, like I said, 790 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't always the best test taker, but so I 791 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: know how these tests going. They're not they're not the easiest. 792 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: You took the test that mattered and you aced those. Okay, 793 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: let's talk a little football. How are you these days? 794 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: What's going on? How's this off season bed for you? 795 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: Football wise? Yeah, it's been good, a lot of it. 796 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: Just been a lot of rehabbing on my ankle. Had 797 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: surged this all season in January, so I think coming 798 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: up maybe on a month or two months. Maybe possibly 799 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: we're in April. Yeah, so just coming up about two 800 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: or three months. But it's all been good, honestly, just 801 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: taking it day by day, honestly preparing my mentally, preparing 802 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: myself mentally and physically for this upcoming season and you know, 803 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: hope to had the best one I had yet. I 804 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: was gonna say, when you're not able to do the 805 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: physical stuff mentally though, after having seen it the last 806 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: season or two in the off season, how much easier 807 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: is it for you? How much more are you gaining 808 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: on the mental side when you look at things like that? Right? 809 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: You know, I could just you know tell myself definitely 810 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: transforming from from my first year. Um, I think different. 811 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: I know the business a little bit more, I know 812 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: how things operate more, so you know, kind of just 813 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: prepared myself mentally. Uh takes to see at this level 814 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: to see this game. Um, you know, also in just 815 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: like I know I want to be out there physically 816 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: right now, but right now I had to take us 817 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: low from VA. For me, I had to just, you know, 818 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: constantly tell myself, be patient. Your time's come in to 819 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: ramp it up when you want to, and you want 820 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: to be the healthiest that you can when you when 821 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: that when that comes. So just honestly, just being patient's 822 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: been really the only key to this offseason for me. 823 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: We haven't talked to you since the news came down, 824 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: but former Texans linebacker is now your head coach. How 825 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: cool is that? How much have you been invigorated about 826 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: what you've seen with the Damka Ryan's hiring. Yeah, I mean, 827 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: I think we're all excited to have a guy that's 828 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: been in our shoes. Um, a guy who was young, 829 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: has a lot of energy. I met another day and 830 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: you you could just feel the energy, you know, you 831 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: could just feel the type of guy he is. So UM, 832 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: I think we're all just excited, especially myself, to get 833 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: to learn from him and gets a play for him 834 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: and get to lay on the line from And I'm 835 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: guessing over the last few years you've you've looked around 836 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: the league and you've seen what that defense has done. 837 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: That's got to be pretty exciting too, right, Yeah, absolutely. 838 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean I know for me personally, you know, I 839 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: look up to watching the fotas linebacker, so you know, 840 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: they're a good linebacking group from the past. And Demiko 841 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: been coached by Demiko, so having him come in, I mean, 842 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: it's very exciting because you get be coached by the 843 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: best in my opinion, so I'm definitely ready to learn 844 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: from him. Off the field, it's been a big time 845 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: offseason for you. Tell us what went down. Yeah, I 846 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: just got married to my beautiful wife. She's my better half. 847 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: Don't let nobody tell you different, but you know that 848 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: was That's really been my off season. It's helping her 849 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: playing everything out. Actually, just bought a house in Dallas coastitulationally, 850 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: so yeah, that's it's just been a lot going on. 851 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I took a trip for our honeymoon out of the country, 852 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: so man, it's just been kind of like a non 853 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: star whirlwind. But things are starting to slow down a 854 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: little bit now, so get things prepared in our home 855 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: and just just trying to make everything just about family. Really, 856 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: where's the honeymoon? And Bora Bora? Yeah, was beautiful. It was. 857 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: It was breath taking for sure. That's a bucket list placement. 858 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's It's kind of been a jam of 859 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: minsince I was in high school, so you know I 860 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: had the ability to make it happen, so we did. Bora, bora, 861 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Garret Wallow, thanks for time, have fun in there with 862 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: the kiddos, and we'll see you again real soon. I 863 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you. There's Drew Doherty with Garrett Wallow at Sharon 864 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Elementary for the startest kickoff and all of that great 865 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 1: community work the Texans do highlighted on the Texans app 866 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: and Houston Texans dot com, so check it out. Thanks 867 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot to Brian Bearfield Big Sarge for being out 868 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: the show tonight, and Johnny and I had a lot 869 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: of fun kicking it around with the quarterback evaluation of 870 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: this year's draft class. The draft is coming up less 871 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: than three weeks now. Miller Outdoor Theater info on Houston 872 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: Texans dot com for that. Don't forget to catch Texans 873 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: three sixty Saturday night, ABC thirteen at eleven o'clock. Plenty 874 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: of great content on there for you to digest. Have 875 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: a great day everyone, Go Texans.