WEBVTT - #332 Packers Unscripted: Options and adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you here from our studios at lambeau Field. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's West's turn to wear the throwback gear today. We're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trading off alternate. I'll make sure to wear

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<v Speaker 1>some throwback gear tomorrow, but West, we're a day closer

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<v Speaker 1>here to Packers bills Sunday noon Central time, kickoff at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field. And one of the interesting things here that's

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<v Speaker 1>developing with the Packers offense is the running back situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's quite a bit different from last year because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the names are the same. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference. They're all healthy. Last year, that wasn't the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers were shuffling guys in and out depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who was good to go and who wasn't. All

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<v Speaker 1>three of these guys, Montgomery, Williams, Aaron Jones all healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and ready to go. How do you see this? The

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<v Speaker 1>division of labor here shaking itself out. Well, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing of this. And we've said it time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again. I'll say it one more time. They all

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<v Speaker 1>do something different. They all have different skill set, different strengths,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, listening to Jamal Williams and and Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones talk about it this week, Williams and Jones are

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly close. I mean they're great friends, share and share

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<v Speaker 1>an agent, go back to the Senior Bowl together. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's really nice about it is they all

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<v Speaker 1>understand that as well. And the point I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make here, Mike, because I know so much has made

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<v Speaker 1>you and I answer the insider inbox and we get

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<v Speaker 1>asked constantly basically, whoever is the guy that had the

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<v Speaker 1>most successful why aren't they featuring that player? And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing might challenge to everybody in a story that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on Packers dot Com is go back and look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of these recent Super Bowls. Super Bowl last year, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>the leading carrier la Garrett Blunt fourteen carries. Go back

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago, the leading carrier was DeVante Freeman had

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<v Speaker 1>eleven carries. The game's changing, y'all, Like, it's not just okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Adrian Peterson as prime and you're gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty five times a game. You're gonna have Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and his prime and run him forty three times

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<v Speaker 1>a game. No, I mean you're gonna have a division

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<v Speaker 1>of labor, as you said, And I thought Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>said something really interesting and that when you can get

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<v Speaker 1>three guys who are all that Mike McCarthy uses three

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<v Speaker 1>down running backs, it sets you up offensively so that

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<v Speaker 1>the defense can't really get a beat on anyone. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an important thing. Now they've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get started on not having as many reps. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get going fast. But again, for

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<v Speaker 1>everything that went wrong in Washington, I didn't feel the

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<v Speaker 1>running game was one of those problems. I thought all

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<v Speaker 1>three of those guys when they played, they produced. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing to keep in my nd here with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fans, and I know some of it's

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy football, but but some of it, some of it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>some of it's not. I'll give some people credit for

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily just falling into the fantasy football trap, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at this too. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>did I just begin this segment talking about their health.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these guys have had injury problems. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if one guy you know steps to the forefront, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. That doesn't mean you want to feed that

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<v Speaker 1>guy times a game, because this is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>long game here. The Packers are in this for the

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<v Speaker 1>long haul. They'd like to have all these guys healthy

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<v Speaker 1>for the duration. And the other thing too. What's really

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<v Speaker 1>good about it from Mike McCarthy standpoint, because he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to emphasize that all three of these guys are three

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<v Speaker 1>down running backs. They don't need to be taken off

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<v Speaker 1>the field and third down because of blitz pick up

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<v Speaker 1>or this or that. And what that does for the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach and for the offensive coordinator and for Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is any time they want to go no huddle

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<v Speaker 1>where they stick with one personnel group, try to catch

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<v Speaker 1>the defense in a certain personnel group and get the

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<v Speaker 1>matchups that they want and go up tempo and no huddle.

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<v Speaker 1>They can do that no matter which running back they

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<v Speaker 1>want to use at that time because they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to substitute based on the down and distance. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where now that Aaron Jones is back, he has his

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<v Speaker 1>first game of the regular season under his belt. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see exactly how these guys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be worked in and what the rotation is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I'll go back to the point I

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<v Speaker 1>made after the Washington game in my postgame editorial. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to find the right balance between a productive, effective

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<v Speaker 1>rotation and not crossing the line to where the offense

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little disjointed and you can't find the rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>and flow that you want. So there may be some

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<v Speaker 1>growing pains in a sense with this. That's not really

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<v Speaker 1>the right phrase. I can't think of the right words

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There. Yeah, there may be some adjustment, some

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<v Speaker 1>transition to this, but I think the Packers offensive coaches

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<v Speaker 1>are going to figure it out and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit this offense for the long haul. I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot, Mike in terms of, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>great Owls teams of the late nineties, right where they

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<v Speaker 1>had different I was. I was a Bulls fan back then.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a big band wagon writer back then. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, they had different modes of offense. You

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<v Speaker 1>put in Steve Kerr as the three point threat, Jed

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<v Speaker 1>Bushler as a three point threat, different ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>could adjust the offense. So it wasn't just always okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, So I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to realize. I think the Packers offense it

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<v Speaker 1>takes different forms when these different backs are in there.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have Time Montgomery, it is more up tempo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more two minute oriented. You're able to do more

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<v Speaker 1>with motioning the running back in the backfield. My personal

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<v Speaker 1>belief is that all three of these running backs, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is really a credit to Ben Sermons. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>he's able to sit back a little bit and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the fruit of his labor here. You've seen those three

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<v Speaker 1>guys all come from different paths. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>big our screen goes here as far as the camera vision,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know all of them have different and you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen them all sort of morph into one area. Time

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery having the receiver background, becoming more of a running

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<v Speaker 1>back running between the tackles, improving on pass protection, Jamal Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've known for a while now good and pass protection,

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<v Speaker 1>showing he can be a threat as a pass catcher,

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<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Jones for as explosive as he is, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be more reliable as a pass protection and also

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn good as a pass catcher. Now out of

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield too. That's why you're able to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have three guys and nobody emerges and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>established with himself and you have that problem, that's an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do have three guys now that okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>something falls one way or you need a certain guy

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<v Speaker 1>and a certain look. That's how the New England Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>have had the success they've had over the last five

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<v Speaker 1>to six years. They can tailor game plans to the

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<v Speaker 1>weapons that they have in the backfield. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>where this is going for the Packers. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, yeah, maybe it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>help out your fantasy football team, but I do think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to help the Packers win games. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my point from before is that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the Packers are necessarily going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to figure all this out right away right now. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the six team game season. Let's let's let them

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<v Speaker 1>figure this out as as they go along, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be all about playing your best football. In

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<v Speaker 1>November and December, when Aaron Jones played seventeen snaps in

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<v Speaker 1>his first game back from suspension, had the hamstring the hasty,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said an inbox, let's see what this Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, because it's not just one game. Yeah, that's right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>another guy you were talking about, these guys catching passes

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<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield, another pass catcher. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are on this week is the Packers veteran Randall Cobb,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to get into was the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>game the worst of his career or rank at this

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<v Speaker 1>and that it doesn't matter. Unaccomplished pro had a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's all there. That's all there is to this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what you like about Randall Cobb,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike McCarthy said it. Aaron Rodgers has said it.

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<v Speaker 1>His consistency, the way he handles himself. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Randall Cobb in the locker room this week

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily that he had such a bad game, and that

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<v Speaker 1>speaks to his professionalism because you know, Wes Marquez, Valdes, Scantling,

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<v Speaker 1>e q st Brown, Jamond More, they're watching how Ranch Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching how Randall Cobb handles this week because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a bad game. And I said it right away

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<v Speaker 1>on our Monday show. I know these guys who drop passes.

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<v Speaker 1>When you when your veteran players, you know these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to bounce back. They take it seriously. They

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot of pride in what they do. They

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<v Speaker 1>know they let their teammates down. It's not about them personally,

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<v Speaker 1>for them, it's it's about the team, and it's about

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<v Speaker 1>what they were being relied on to do, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come through. Randall Cobb. All he said all week

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<v Speaker 1>long is you go back to work. That's all there

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<v Speaker 1>is to do. What else is there to do? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And his his professionalism, his leadership through something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think can help the Packers, especially with so many

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<v Speaker 1>young wide receivers in that room right and Marvin back

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<v Speaker 1>in the truck right now. Maybe he can bring up

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<v Speaker 1>the split screen of Randall Cobb's interview, not the audio,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the interview itself. His posture, how he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his non verbal language was after he had a career

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<v Speaker 1>day two weeks ago, hundred forty two yards seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>yard game winning touchdown. He's the same same exact guy,

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<v Speaker 1>same exact mannerism, same exact mentality. And that's because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a rookie anymore. He's an eighth year guy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this at a high level for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets it. And I think the thing that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers can sleep well at night and Mike McCarthy can

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<v Speaker 1>sleep well at night is whatever happens this Sunday against

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bills, none of it is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>any lasting effect from what happened last Sunday. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>new game to Randall cop He's been through this before.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing is too is Roger said,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was basically asked from I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Demowsky asked him, you know, what do you say

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<v Speaker 1>to him or just what is that conversation like with Randall?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when he's not when he didn't have his

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<v Speaker 1>best game, and Rogers made a point too quick to

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<v Speaker 1>point out. He's like, Okay, yeah, you can point to

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<v Speaker 1>the plays that Randall didn't make, or the the fumble

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<v Speaker 1>or the drop pass. But he's like, I also talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him about the plays that I didn't make with

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<v Speaker 1>him when he did get open down field and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see him, or when when there was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>instances here and there where you know, Cobb did get

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<v Speaker 1>the separation but he just wasn't looking in his direction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just one player, it's everything that goes into that. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a fresh new ball game. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe, as you said, that was an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>point you made, Mike, the three rookies. Just look at

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Gjeroni Wa Allison. He's been in that

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<v Speaker 1>room now for two and a half years, seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>consistency of Cobb and Nelson and Davante Adams. That rubs

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<v Speaker 1>off on a guy like him now who's off to

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<v Speaker 1>the best start of his career. Yeah, you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Geronimo Wallison learned something watching Jordy Nelson put a flak

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<v Speaker 1>jacket on and go out and play with cracked ribs

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC Championship game. I mean that's these veteran

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<v Speaker 1>guys make impressions on younger players, and Geronimo Allison has

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<v Speaker 1>benefited from. He's a quiet guy. He sits back and

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<v Speaker 1>he watches. Now we're seeing his development. And these younger

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<v Speaker 1>guys now they're watching Randall Cobb, They're seeing how he

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<v Speaker 1>handles this. And and as I said, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers will be better for it. All Right, A quick

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<v Speaker 1>before we go West. A quick follow up on the

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<v Speaker 1>new cornerback the Packers brought in, but Shod Bryland, the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth year veterans spent the first four years of his

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<v Speaker 1>career with Washington. Really strange offseason journey he went through

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<v Speaker 1>UM was considered I don't know where exactly they were ranked,

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<v Speaker 1>but was considered one of the top cornerbacks available in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. In the middle of March, when free agency began,

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<v Speaker 1>he signs a multi year deal, pretty lucrative deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers, but then fails a physical and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out a couple of weeks before free agency started

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<v Speaker 1>he's on vacation at a resort in the Dominican Republic,

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<v Speaker 1>has a kind of a freak accident with a golf cart.

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<v Speaker 1>Some resort employee driving a golf cart like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ran into his foot or or hit his foot or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and it essentially kind of reopened and

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<v Speaker 1>infected an old wound from his childhood. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was enough of a problem that then when he

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<v Speaker 1>signed the contract with the Panthers and went to have

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<v Speaker 1>the physical, they failed him on the physical. He needed

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<v Speaker 1>to have another procedure done on the foot, and lo

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<v Speaker 1>and behold, he goes then all the way from the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of March until the middle of September before he

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<v Speaker 1>gets another opportunity to sign with somebody. Now he he

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<v Speaker 1>went and worked out, he said, for at least thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>more than a dozen teams around the league. The need

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<v Speaker 1>arises with the Packers. Kevin King's dealing with a groin injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Devon House has to go on i R because of

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<v Speaker 1>a shoulder injury. The Packers swoop in. The Packers were interested,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, back in the early stages of free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>And now he's in Green Bay. He seems pretty happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. Well, absolutely, and I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>already I'm gonna like from the standpoint of the man

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to turn a phrase. He did it several

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<v Speaker 1>times in his first meeting with the media, Just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of quick one liners that I thought were really pulling.

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<v Speaker 1>The one I liked, probably like the most, was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that you led your story off with, where he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get back to a player that

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<v Speaker 1>I meant to be, that I've always been. He also

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<v Speaker 1>did say too that, uh, this is this is a

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<v Speaker 1>big moment for him, not not just talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>foot and trying to show that he can play. Another

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<v Speaker 1>quote he said later on was I get the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to change the perception of a shod berylon and really

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<v Speaker 1>recreate a new player. It's a new start, a new beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>a new journey for me. He had his ups and

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<v Speaker 1>downs in Washington. On the field, he was really a

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<v Speaker 1>very consistent presence for them. We talked about how many

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<v Speaker 1>games he started, uh and in what he brought to

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<v Speaker 1>that defense and the versatility and flexibility that they had

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<v Speaker 1>with him. But yeah, this was a long eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight months for him, trying to find a new home

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, he lands in green bait. The benefit

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<v Speaker 1>for him though, as we talked about yesterday, he's still

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<v Speaker 1>only twenty six. He puts together a solid season this year,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have another chance to revisit that free agent market.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's in that twenty nine category where okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're not really sure if someone's gonna be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to commit. If he plays well as we saw this

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<v Speaker 1>past offseason, teams are going to be interested. Now, why

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<v Speaker 1>it took so long for it to be the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's I'm sure there's a lot that goes

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<v Speaker 1>into that, but he's incredibly grateful for it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're seeing a guy come in here now with

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<v Speaker 1>a real chip on his shoulder to show that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that guy everybody thought was a top cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>in March, I'm still that guy. Yeah. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get into a whole lot of the details, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't blame him for that, but he basically said, as

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<v Speaker 1>he was visiting a lot of these other teams over

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<v Speaker 1>the last several months, that different doctors just had different

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<v Speaker 1>opinions on this foot injury and the recovery and how

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<v Speaker 1>long it might be before he would really be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go again. We know how conservative in a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr mackenzie is Dr Pat Mackenzie here with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>injuries and players. So you know, for me, for my money,

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<v Speaker 1>if Dr mackenzie signs off and says, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is good to go go ahead and sign him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got to think that's uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's something that the Packers will take advantage of.

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<v Speaker 1>And and fortunately Mike McCarthy made no bones about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers feel very fortunate that a player of this

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<v Speaker 1>caliber was available at a time when a need, a

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<v Speaker 1>significant need suddenly arose because with you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Kevin King's status necessarily for this game, but with

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Devon House, you're down to the two

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<v Speaker 1>rookies Alexander and Jackson and then the veteran Tremont Williams

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<v Speaker 1>at cornerback. And we all know what Mike Petton has

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<v Speaker 1>done so far with those defensive backpackages. He likes to

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of options and and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different combinations to use. And this is why I really

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<v Speaker 1>do tip my cap to Brian good Kunz because with

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<v Speaker 1>all due respect, I mean you know, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>not meant to to rip on a player like Donna

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<v Speaker 1>Tello Brown, but there's just a difference between promoting someone

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<v Speaker 1>like that last year and actually signing someone like question

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<v Speaker 1>talent level with a kind of caliber athlete you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's higher and just the experience. And

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<v Speaker 1>these guys who have been in the n f L,

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've they've been under the bright lights that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>been through it, you know, been there, done that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. There's there's there's no substitute for that, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you maybe need somebody in a pinch. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he's, as I said yesterday, he's a guy too

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna be able to work off a Truman Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>There's young guys in that room. And this also gives

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<v Speaker 1>them an opportunity to hopefully get Kevin King back on

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<v Speaker 1>the field here soon, so then you have even more options.

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<v Speaker 1>King met with the media a little bit on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, saying he's still taking it day by day.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the rehab program still on Wednesday, So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to see exactly what you know that timeline

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<v Speaker 1>looks for him with a groin injury. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers need those cornerbacks to play well. Trumon Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, has given them a great effort here so far.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see a lot of thirty five year old

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<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks being asked to do what Truman Williams is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then certainly JayR Alexander and Josh Jackson jumped through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof when it comes to potential freelance. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the gap between that. He's a guy that's still young.

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<v Speaker 1>He still has some good football ahead of him, but

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<v Speaker 1>does have that experience. He's played in the league for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. He's played a lot of snaps during

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<v Speaker 1>his first four NFL seasons. So that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why he believes he's not going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>huge steep learning curve coming into this defense. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be able to pick it up quickly, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>stay on the hip of Joe W Jr. And And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully contribute sooner rather than later. Yeah, and he actually

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<v Speaker 1>played for three different defensive coordinators in his four years

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, So he said it as locker to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, grabbing a new playbook and diving in nothing new.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's been there, done that as well. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to also. I mean, there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>that goes into that, but the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>A cornerback is sticking with receivers. If he's healthy, if

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<v Speaker 1>he's if he's a hundred percent and things are looking

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<v Speaker 1>up right, there's a certain amount of instincts that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick up for him too in the interim,

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<v Speaker 1>and I I don't know, Well, we'll see exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>this game plan is going to be for him, how

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<v Speaker 1>much they incorporate him right off the bat against Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>if it all will see. But I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>give him a couple of weeks here and you get

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<v Speaker 1>into the bye week, there's a lot of time for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be able to get adjusted and get comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in this defense. Yeah, I agree with that. We're going

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