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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming

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Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambeau Field. And

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Speaker 1: it's West's turn to wear the throwback gear today. We're

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Speaker 1: kind of trading off alternate. I'll make sure to wear

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Speaker 1: some throwback gear tomorrow, but West, we're a day closer

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Speaker 1: here to Packers bills Sunday noon Central time, kickoff at

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field. And one of the interesting things here that's

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Speaker 1: developing with the Packers offense is the running back situation.

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Speaker 1: And it's quite a bit different from last year because

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Speaker 1: a lot of the names are the same. But here's

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Speaker 1: the difference. They're all healthy. Last year, that wasn't the case,

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Speaker 1: and the Packers were shuffling guys in and out depending

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Speaker 1: on who was good to go and who wasn't. All

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Speaker 1: three of these guys, Montgomery, Williams, Aaron Jones all healthy

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Speaker 1: and ready to go. How do you see this? The

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Speaker 1: division of labor here shaking itself out. Well, here's the

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Speaker 1: beautiful thing of this. And we've said it time and

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Speaker 1: time again. I'll say it one more time. They all

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Speaker 1: do something different. They all have different skill set, different strengths,

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Speaker 1: and you know, listening to Jamal Williams and and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones talk about it this week, Williams and Jones are

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Speaker 1: incredibly close. I mean they're great friends, share and share

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Speaker 1: an agent, go back to the Senior Bowl together. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that's really nice about it is they all

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Speaker 1: understand that as well. And the point I want to

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Speaker 1: make here, Mike, because I know so much has made

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Speaker 1: you and I answer the insider inbox and we get

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Speaker 1: asked constantly basically, whoever is the guy that had the

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Speaker 1: most successful why aren't they featuring that player? And the

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Speaker 1: thing might challenge to everybody in a story that I

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Speaker 1: wrote on Packers dot Com is go back and look

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Speaker 1: at some of these recent Super Bowls. Super Bowl last year, Mike,

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Speaker 1: the leading carrier la Garrett Blunt fourteen carries. Go back

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Speaker 1: two years ago, the leading carrier was DeVante Freeman had

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Speaker 1: eleven carries. The game's changing, y'all, Like, it's not just okay,

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Speaker 1: you have Adrian Peterson as prime and you're gonna run

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Speaker 1: the thirty five times a game. You're gonna have Larry

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Speaker 1: a game. No, I mean you're gonna have a division

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Speaker 1: of labor, as you said, And I thought Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: said something really interesting and that when you can get

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Speaker 1: three guys who are all that Mike McCarthy uses three

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Speaker 1: down running backs, it sets you up offensively so that

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Speaker 1: the defense can't really get a beat on anyone. That's

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Speaker 1: an important thing. Now they've got to be able to

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Speaker 1: get started on not having as many reps. They have

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Speaker 1: to be able to get going fast. But again, for

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Speaker 1: everything that went wrong in Washington, I didn't feel the

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Speaker 1: running game was one of those problems. I thought all

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Speaker 1: three of those guys when they played, they produced. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think I think the

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Speaker 1: thing to keep in my nd here with regards to

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Speaker 1: you know, the fans, and I know some of it's

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Speaker 1: fantasy football, but but some of it, some of it's not,

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Speaker 1: some of it's not. I'll give some people credit for

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Speaker 1: not necessarily just falling into the fantasy football trap, but

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Speaker 1: you have to look at this too. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: did I just begin this segment talking about their health.

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Speaker 1: All of these guys have had injury problems. So even

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Speaker 1: if one guy you know steps to the forefront, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. That doesn't mean you want to feed that

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Speaker 1: long game here. The Packers are in this for the

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Speaker 1: long haul. They'd like to have all these guys healthy

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Speaker 1: for the duration. And the other thing too. What's really

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Speaker 1: good about it from Mike McCarthy standpoint, because he continues

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Speaker 1: to emphasize that all three of these guys are three

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Speaker 1: or this or that. And what that does for the

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Speaker 1: head coach and for the offensive coordinator and for Aaron

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Speaker 1: where they stick with one personnel group, try to catch

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Speaker 1: matchups that they want and go up tempo and no huddle.

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Speaker 1: we're going to see exactly how these guys are going

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Speaker 1: growing pains in a sense with this. That's not really

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Speaker 1: right now. There. Yeah, there may be some adjustment, some

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Speaker 1: transition to this, but I think the Packers offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: are going to figure it out and it's going to

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Speaker 1: benefit this offense for the long haul. I looked at

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Speaker 1: it a lot, Mike in terms of, you know, the

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Speaker 1: but you know, they had different modes of offense. You

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, So I just I think

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Speaker 1: When you have Time Montgomery, it is more up tempo,

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Speaker 1: it's more two minute oriented. You're able to do more

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Speaker 1: this is really a credit to Ben Sermons. I hope

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Speaker 1: the fruit of his labor here. You've seen those three

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good as a pass catcher. Now out of

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Speaker 1: end of the day, yeah, maybe it's not going to

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Speaker 1: help out your fantasy football team, but I do think

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Speaker 1: it's going to help the Packers win games. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: going to be all about playing your best football. In

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Speaker 1: looks like, because it's not just one game. Yeah, that's right. Well,

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Speaker 1: But I tell you what you like about Randall Cobb,

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Speaker 1: His consistency, the way he handles himself. You don't know

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Speaker 1: You know, when he's not when he didn't have his

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