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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. Yes, we'll

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Speaker 2: get to the bills stuff very very briefly this hour.

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Speaker 2: I want to put a final word on this race

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Speaker 2: communism stuff. We'll get to emails, the COVID vaccine cover

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Speaker 2: up and so much more coming up on the Jesse

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Speaker 2: tomorrow is asked Doctor Jesse Friday, and you need to

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Speaker 2: get your questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse

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Speaker 2: kellyshow dot com. So one final word on this race

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Speaker 2: communism stuffcause I got a bunch of emails here, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: I'm so angry about everything happening in South Africa. According

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Speaker 2: to the left, Trump is ambushing the president of South Africa.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you brought up that word ambushing. Western Lensman,

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Speaker 2: as he often does, put together an amazing montage. You

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Speaker 2: will hear news station after news station. These are different stations,

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Speaker 2: discuss what's happening here. What are you actually hearing in

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Speaker 2: Wan in the dramatic scene in the Oval Office today,

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Speaker 2: the tense confrontation President Trump ambushing the President of South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Next another Oval office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the President

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Speaker 2: of South Africa. President Trump is being accused of conducting

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Speaker 2: something of a diplomatic ambush a South Africa's president in

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Speaker 3: To be with you, I'm Katie, sir, President Trump orchestrated.

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Speaker 2: Another Oval office ambush. Today is today Donald Trump meeting

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Speaker 2: with the President of South Africa and attempting to ambush

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Speaker 4: To Zelenski territory, where essentially he was a bit ambushed

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Speaker 5: We felt like an ambush in there, kind of like

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Speaker 1: This was an ambush.

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Speaker 6: It was orchestrated.

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Speaker 3: Errol Romaposa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting,

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Speaker 3: but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush.

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Speaker 1: What started as to some degree in ambush, Well, Katie,

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Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't ambushed.

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Speaker 5: Ambush, ambushed, ambush and ambushed, ambushing, ambush.

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Speaker 4: And ambushed inside the Oval office ambush.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So we'll discuss the why that happens in

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Speaker 1: But what is happening Because you've.

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Speaker 2: Heard things like this before, You've heard montages like this

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Speaker 2: before that people put together, where all these communists on

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Speaker 3: The thing that went right was the investment over decades

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Speaker 3: to make a vaccine in unprecedented time of less than

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Speaker 5: They are safe and so effective.

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Speaker 1: We know that vaccines are safe and effective.

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Speaker 2: That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe

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Speaker 2: We got it safe and effective. They do it all

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Speaker 2: the time. Remember all all the what were they were hallmarks?

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Speaker 2: The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged hunter or

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Speaker 2: buy emails are actually connected to a larger foreign intelligence operation.

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Speaker 2: Foreign intelligence operation, foreign intelligence foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.

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Speaker 1: For all we know, these emails are made up.

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Speaker 3: The information found on the laptop may be part of

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Speaker 2: A Russian disinformation effort, described by many intelligence experts as

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Speaker 2: Russian Russian disinformation Russian disinformation disinformation campaign.

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Speaker 2: Therefore they're all repeating it. They're repeating it loudly because

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Speaker 3: The reality is this was the most secure election we've

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Speaker 6: You know, a lot of this is just really a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got secure. It was secure. It was definitely secure.

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Speaker 2: I didn't until then because I've learned after enough time

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Speaker 2: it's a lie. It's an outright lie every single time.

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Speaker 1: That's the what. Now let's go to the why.

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Speaker 2: Why Why is the American the American media, why are

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Speaker 2: That's what that guy really is, showing a South African

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Speaker 2: you see, when you've worked as long and as hard

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Speaker 2: And maybe the wildest thing about all this race communism

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Speaker 2: Let's say you say, big beautiful bill pass Congress with

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Speaker 2: the lamest USA chant ever. Caroline Levitt talked about it today.

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Speaker 4: This one big beautiful bill will implement President Trump's Make

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Speaker 4: America Great Again agenda by delivering the largest tax cut

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Speaker 4: President Trump's promises of no tax on tips, which was

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Speaker 2: to you about saving money, because as inflation continues, let's

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Speaker 2: Saving money is important. Saving money is always important. There's

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Speaker 2: Can we drop a line at that kind of crazy pricing?

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Speaker 2: Our bill got cut in half when we switched to

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Speaker 2: Pure Talk, and my coverage got better. Better, not worse.

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Speaker 2: Switch to Pure Talk, Man, it takes ten minutes or less.

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Speaker 2: Their CEO fought for this country in the jungles of Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: That's why they only do patriotic things. Never black lives

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Speaker 2: matter stuff. Pick up your phone dial pound two five

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the emails to clear out

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Speaker 2: some room for themorrow.

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Speaker 1: Jesse.

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Speaker 2: The main purpose of the tarffs is to bring jobs

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Speaker 2: certainly worthy of a discussion. First, let's understand motivations here.

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Speaker 2: I want American jobs here because I like Americans, and

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Speaker 2: So let's be crystal clear on that. Two, let's be

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Speaker 2: crystal clear on this. There are things that you believe

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Speaker 2: There are things we can't sell to the American people.

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Speaker 2: And I told you I was gonna tell you something,

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Speaker 1: But because people don't care.

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Speaker 2: I believe I don't want to sound too black, piled

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Speaker 2: It's going to be awful and nothing will stop it.

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Speaker 2: People don't care. The American people want their stuff. They

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Speaker 2: Even I'm not even saying all the stuff is bad,

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Speaker 2: large quantities of money, gigantic port This doesn't even cut

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Speaker 1: Why waste my breath?

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Speaker 2: How many of those Republicans who signed up for Green

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Speaker 1: Zero? Not one? Why waste my breath? Now? This goes

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Speaker 1: back to the tariff talk. We'll tie this in. You said,

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Speaker 2: on a fantastic Thursday. Do not forget tomorrow's ask doctor

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Speaker 2: Chris was asking me during the break, what happens during

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Speaker 2: this debt crisis that I'm not going to talk about anymore.

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Speaker 2: When foreign entities and domestic entities decide they're going to

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Speaker 2: stop buying American debt because American debt is too risky

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Speaker 2: what happens is your standard of living will drop in

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Speaker 1: Let me paint a little picture here.

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Speaker 2: Let's say we're just going to use very even numbers

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Speaker 2: We as a household, you and me. We're a family, right, Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: We're a family. But we live in the same house.

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Speaker 2: We bring one hundred thousand dollars a year together, right,

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Speaker 2: But we have credit cards. We have pretty good credit score,

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Speaker 2: so we don't just have credit cards. You know what,

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Speaker 2: We each have American Express platinums.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen one of these things?

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Speaker 2: We have such good credit scores that there is no

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start going out there three four times a year.

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Speaker 2: We'll spend a week at a really nice hotel, drinks, steaks.

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Speaker 2: Long story short, we're putting fifty thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 1: But there's other things that go into that fifty grand.

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Speaker 2: You see, I bought a new car, do it on

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Speaker 1: Anything we can do. I can't. I can't pay anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, there may be things you can do, but you're

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Speaker 2: We've been living like this for ten years. For ten years,

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Speaker 2: They have Sea World. For ten years, it's been pretty

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Speaker 2: new danglely earrings, new cars, new shoes, new guns for Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Ten years. Now that all stops.

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Speaker 1: Country. Here's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: We spend trillions with a tee more than we take in.

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Speaker 2: We were a guarantee that American debt will always pay

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Speaker 2: everything in your life changes. It doesn't sound personal, it

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: What do you think government's gonna do when that day comes?

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: Congress doesn't care, President doesn't care, nobody cares. Everybody wants

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Speaker 2: to do things. I want to do things. No, give

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Let me do things. I want to go to Sea World.

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Speaker 2: I love San Diego. I'm used to it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Can't we go to San Diego? Can't we? I mean,

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Speaker 7: The one thing the President truly understands is in order

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Speaker 7: to be a superpower, you need to have a navy.

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Speaker 7: If you don't control the sea, you're not a superpower.

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Speaker 7: So to me, the reason America is a superpower, there's

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Speaker 2: There's a US Navy, there's a US.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even going to kill that guy or say

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Speaker 2: he said anything wrong there. That's John Falan, He's the

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Speaker 1: What money. We're going to have the.

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Speaker 2: Biggest, beautiful, most powerful navy patrolling the shores with no

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Speaker 2: fuel in it. Patrolling the shores of a country in

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Speaker 2: a debt crisis you can't imagine. So let me bring

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Speaker 2: this all the way back home to the guy who

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Speaker 2: said we need to stop the Democrat cost narrative of tariffs.

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Speaker 2: This is not a pro or anti tariff argument I'm making,

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Speaker 2: But let me get this out of the way, right

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Speaker 2: out of the bat right, right out of the gates.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: You cannot sell higher costs to the American people. They

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Speaker 2: will not buy it. Not for any length of time.

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Speaker 2: You cannot. The Communists have tried this forever. Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 2: tried it too. Hey, just put on a sweater if

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Speaker 2: you're cold. It does not work. The most impossible sell

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Speaker 2: in politics is selling people why they should do with less,

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Speaker 2: why their life should get worse.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how all the.

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Speaker 2: Tariff stuff and trade deal stuff is going to work out,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to pretend like I do, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to act like I'm against the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. But don't think costs, don't

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Speaker 2: think that's some kind of democrat narrative. You cannot sell

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Speaker 2: a lower standard of living to people under any circumstances,

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Speaker 2: and in no country. If you're in Korea, Russia, America, Zimbabwe,

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Speaker 2: I don't care where it is. You cannot stand up

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Speaker 2: in front of the people and tell them to do

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Speaker 2: with less and expect them to be happy. It does

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Speaker 2: not work that way. It doesn't work that way. Human

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Speaker 2: beings don't voluntarily reduce their standard of living. It will

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Speaker 2: not have all right, All right, now, I do want

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Speaker 2: to address the bringing jobs back to America. Bringing jobs?

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Speaker 2: How do we bring these jobs back? On top of

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Speaker 2: you know, putting in things like tariffs and things like that.

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Speaker 2: What else do we do? Let's discuss that before we

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Speaker 2: seeing a bad man standing there ready to hurt you.

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Speaker 2: How are you going to stop him? What's your plan?

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Speaker 1: Scream? Pull out your burn a launcher and shoot him

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Speaker 2: It's legal all fifty states, no permit, no background check.

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Speaker 2: the tear gas ball is gonna hurt really bad, but

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Speaker 2: he'll live. And did you know these things are hand

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Speaker 1: We'll be back. You're listening to the Oracle.

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Speaker 2: You love this one.

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Speaker 1: It's a scream baby. The Jesse Kelly Show. It is

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Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: Do not worry. We still have more than an hour left.

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Speaker 2: I mean a little bit more than an hour left.

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Speaker 2: But remember if you miss any part of the show,

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Speaker 2: you can download the whole thing. iHeart Spotify iTunes will

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Speaker 2: get to the COVID stuff and a few and I

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Speaker 2: want to get to some more emails, but I just

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Speaker 2: want to address this final point. It was an email

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Speaker 2: about tariffs and stuff like that, and it was good,

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Speaker 2: but it was about the jobs. How we need these

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Speaker 2: American jobs back, because we do. We need the American

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Speaker 2: jobs back. We can never I don't care tariffs, no tariffs, whatever.

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Speaker 2: We can never create the kind of jobs we used

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Speaker 2: to have in this country while simultaneously making the business

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Speaker 2: environment awful. It doesn't work that way. It's not humanly possible.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to force something that cannot be forced.

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Speaker 1: I am not saying we need to go to slave wages.

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Speaker 2: Or I don't believe in that at all. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying stuff like that. But you cannot simultaneously have endless

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Speaker 2: labor laws, endless environmental laws while also bringing back American jobs,

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Speaker 2: American manufacturing in the way you used to have it.

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Speaker 2: I know you might strike a trade deal to build

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Speaker 2: a factory here or there, and I'm not complaining about

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Speaker 2: that stuff. I want that stuff. I want those jobs back.

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Speaker 2: But part of the reason the rust belt turned into

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Speaker 2: the rust belt is we allowed American democrats to make

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Speaker 2: America not hospitable to businesses. China of course pounced on this.

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Speaker 2: Granted they were lying, but China, of course pounced on this,

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Speaker 2: and they told all those American businesses, hey, you know

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Speaker 2: who doesn't have an EPA me, come on over here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to send it an inspector to make

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Speaker 2: sure you're not putting on Well, we tested the co

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Speaker 2: two levels. You're not getting that here in China. Come

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Speaker 2: make your shoes over here. And American businesses said, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm going overseas. Until that changes, we will

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Speaker 2: not get significant, lasting change bringing back American manufacturing. If

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Speaker 2: you want to do it permanently, it won't come from

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Speaker 2: a trade deal or a tariff. Eliminate the EPA. You

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Speaker 2: really want to bring back these jobs, Take the EPA

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Speaker 2: fire everybody there, reduce their budget to zero, demo the

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Speaker 2: building to the ground, Pass the law through Congress eliminating

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Speaker 2: it completely, and voila, American manufacturing jobs will begin will

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Speaker 2: begin to appear again. But you cannot determine every species,

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Speaker 2: Every animal species is endangered. Every sort of factory output,

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Speaker 2: no matter what it is, factory waste, whether it's in

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Speaker 2: the air of the ground, it's all super toxic that

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Speaker 2: you're either not allowed to put out or you need

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Speaker 2: a special permeitter.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even I'm not here saying.

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Speaker 2: That we should go back to the days where you

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Speaker 2: just dump the factory waste in the river and pray

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Speaker 2: for the best. That's the last thing in the world

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Speaker 2: I want. I believe in protecting the environment. But you

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Speaker 2: cannot have regulation after regulation, permit after permit, tax after

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Speaker 2: fine after fee after tax after fine after fee, and

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 2: then eliminate all that red tape by a tariff. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't work that way at all. Make the business environment

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Speaker 2: welcoming or the jobs don't come back, not permanently anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to the uh, the.

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Speaker 2: COVID stuff, which is a little bit ugly, so we'll

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Speaker 2: wit on that.

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Speaker 1: Jesse.

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Speaker 2: The other night we were having dinner with old friends.

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Speaker 2: The topic of naming our children, who are all adults,

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Speaker 2: and how we decided on those names came up. May

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Speaker 2: I ask how you and ob chose James and Luke?

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Speaker 2: Is it after family or biblical in nature? Luke is

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Speaker 2: a great name, sounds like a John Wayne character. Uh, yes,

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Speaker 2: well it's not family. We wanted. Look, we're both simple people,

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Speaker 2: very very simple, basic people, and we wanted It's just

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Speaker 2: a personal preference, you know, I'm not saying everyone has

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Speaker 2: to be like me. We wanted, yes, we wanted them

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Speaker 2: to be biblical, so yes, James and lucas biblical New Testament.

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Speaker 2: Chris and we wanted them to be basic, direct guy names.

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Speaker 1: That's what we wanted.

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Speaker 2: We debated Sam Jake, the basic direct guy names. That's

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Speaker 2: what we wanted, and that's why we chose the names.

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Speaker 2: And it was actually fairly easy. Hey Jesse, longtime listener

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Speaker 2: from the Red from Blood Red, Alabama. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: I've ever heard your take on this. I've always believed

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Speaker 2: that Lincoln was a tyrant Abraham Lincoln for forcing seceding

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Speaker 2: states back into the Union through war. It's a spicy take,

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Speaker 2: I know. My question. Had the Confederacy won their independence

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Speaker 2: in the War of Northern Aggression? He said civil War

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Speaker 2: in Kami language. Could one argue that the Union may

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Speaker 2: not have had the military strength to make an impact in.

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Speaker 1: World War One and World War II?

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Speaker 2: And perhaps sitting it out entirely. We appreciate what you,

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Speaker 2: Chris and Corey do for America. Says his name is

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Speaker 2: Luke actually, oh and he has his first grand baby

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Speaker 2: on the way, how about that he and his wife

587
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: had their first grand baby. That's freaking cool. Congratulations. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the question is, what if Lincoln didn't force the

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Speaker 2: South back into the Union, does America even get involved

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Speaker 2: in WW one or WW two. I think that would

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Speaker 2: be the pro Lincoln argument. And hear me out, this

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Speaker 2: is what I mean. This is what I mean. I'm

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Speaker 2: not making that pro Lincoln argument. But if someone was

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Speaker 2: to make the pro Lincoln argument, here's what they'd say. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's why Lincoln insisted that America stay together by any means.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln took the entire Constitution and he wiped his butt

597
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Speaker 2: with it and he threw it in the trash can

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Speaker 2: in order to force the South to stay in the Union,

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Speaker 2: because he believed that anything and everything was permissible in

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Speaker 2: pursuit of that goal. If you have to abuse, if

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Speaker 2: you have to violate the Constitution, if you have to

602
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Speaker 2: start a war, if you have to kill, no matter what,

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Speaker 2: the South must stay in the Union, and especially in

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Speaker 2: southern circles. Everyone listening in the South right now, they're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's because Lincoln was a dirty tyrant, And that's actually

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Speaker 2: very fair. I'm not debating that However, Lincoln would tell

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Speaker 2: you if he was alive today, well, do you enjoy

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Speaker 2: America being the biggest, most powerful country on Earth? They

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have been if I had let half the country

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Speaker 2: split off. I'm just playing Devil's advocate, That's what he

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Speaker 2: would say. It's a fascinating argument. I love talking civil

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Speaker 2: wars stuff like that. It always makes people mad. I'll

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Speaker 2: have a bunch of angry emails about it tomorrow. Jesse

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Speaker 2: either way, you understand what I mean. You need to

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Speaker 2: and you shouldn't. You live with pain and you don't

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Speaker 1: It's ugly. Hang on