1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to this show. 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners. Wherever 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: you are in the world, it is so great to 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: have you here. Back for another episode as we of 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: course break down the Psychology of our twenties. To begin with, 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I have a new microphone. My last one broke. I 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: feel like a few of you noticed it in a 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: few of the last episodes. It was just like not 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: doing its job. It wasn't working out for me. So 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: I have this new one. I'm p hoping that from 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: here on out there's less crackling. This is a funny story, 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: but I recently moved house and I acced moved underneath 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: an international flight path. So yeah, that has been a 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: factor in recordings recently, whereby every time I try and 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: sit down to do an episode, suddenly there is like 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: a Boeing seven oh seven flying over my ceiling. This 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: microphone will hopefully stop that from filtering in because I 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: feel like I want these conversations to be nice and 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: peaceful and not interrupted by loud, obnoxious noises. So that 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: is my first update. My second update is not an update. 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm just going to introduce what we're talking about today, 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: because today we're going to be discussing social media, arguably 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: one of the biggest influences in our lives and I 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: think society to emerge in the last ten years. And 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: what I really want to do today is just have 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a discussion around how potentially harmful it has become. How 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: little we tend to consider its impact on our health, 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: on our beliefs, on our confidence, our self esteem, our relationships, 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: our friendships, even our careers. To an extent, it just 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: seems that social media has become this all consuming influence 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: in our lives. It's become so ubiquitous that we don't 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: really sit with the feeling and the thoughts and the 36 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: psychology behind what that might be doing to us as 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a species. For so many of us, I think it's 38 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: honestly so strange to imagine a world before social media 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: became part of our lives. You know, when we took 40 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: pictures just for ourselves and our photo albums, and we 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: got our news from a newspaper and we picked our 42 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: restaurants from the local guidebook rather than going on TikTok. 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: It really is just completely changed our way of life, 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: and I think for all the good that it has created, yes, 45 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: we cannot deny the benefits. I think it's also time 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: that we start talking about the societal, cultural, and indie 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: visual impact of our social media consumption and how it 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: continues to dominate so much of what is important and 49 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: priceless in our life, our time, our self esteem, our 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: self perception, our beliefs, our understanding of the world. We 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: are really seeing in front of our eyes a complete 52 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: shift in how we interact with each other, how we connect, 53 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: how we date, how we establish our identity. And I 54 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: don't think that we think about it nearly enough, nor 55 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: do we take the time to identify when our social 56 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: media usage is taking over and perhaps even making us. 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Sick in a way. It has made me sick mentally 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: and then emotionally and finally physically. It all kind of 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: took its toll. And I think also when you come 60 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: to that point of realization of like, social media is 61 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: ruining my mental health, It is making me so tired, 62 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: so burnt out, It is turning me from a very 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: optimistic person to a negative person. What do you do 64 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: about that? How do you move forward? I feel like 65 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: you have a diagnosis and there isn't necessarily a solution. 66 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: And you might be rolling your eyes right now, thinking, well, 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: no one's forcing you to stay online, like just log off, 68 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: just delete your accounts. But I also think that that 69 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: is a lot easier said than done when we begin 70 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: to really examine how addictive these platforms have been designed 71 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: to be. There is intention behind capturing our attention, let's 72 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: not deny it. And also how you really by choosing 73 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: to not be present on social media, you kind of 74 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: lock yourself out of a lot of possibility for interaction 75 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: and to create friendships and to maintain friendships as well. 76 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: The only way I can kind of describe this impact, 77 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: the impact that this has had on me, is that 78 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: my brain has begun to feel very rotted, kind of 79 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: from the inside out. Something has been getting rewired in 80 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: my mind for a while, and I think there have 81 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: been certain things that have just made me snap recently, 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: certain experiences. There is this spotlight that seems to be 83 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: constantly on us on social media. Anyone can find out 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: anything anyone can say anything that they want with really 85 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: no repercussions, and that is just so strange. It is 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: a huge difference from the environment our brain and all 87 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: of its neurological systems originally developed and evolved in one 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: of limited mass group contact and small communities. You know, 89 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: we aren't meant to have this much exposure to so 90 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: many connections and be aware of so many people, and 91 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: have so many opportunities to judge and to be judged. 92 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Not only do I think it really skews what we 93 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: see as normal and it promotes a sense of inadequacy 94 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: innate social comparison, whether that is to do with our bodies, 95 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: our lives, how many friends we have, our jobs. But 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: I also think so sometimes there is just too much 97 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: information for our brains to process, and we just experience 98 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: and overload. At times, everything just seems a little bit 99 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: too serious and real online when it's not. Social media 100 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: is not real. And I know it's insanely cliche to 101 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: say that, but seriously, if you were to base your 102 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: perception of reality on what you saw online, I would 103 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: not want to live in that world. Okay, I know 104 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: I'm sounding so pessimistic, but that has just been my experience. 105 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: As everything in my life has gotten progressively better and 106 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: more stable and positive, the one aspect that remains a 107 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 2: source of real frustration and sometimes pain is social media 108 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: and all the secondary emotional states and reactions that it 109 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: just seems to cause within me. And this has been 110 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: especially exaggerated in the past three months. And I want 111 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: to talk about it because how can we not talk 112 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: about it? As people in our twenties. Arguably this is 113 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 2: the most formative decade of our adult lives. How much 114 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: is social media impacting our psychology in unconscious ways? Because 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: it is more than we are probably willing to acknowledge 116 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: or confront. And what is the solution there? I don't 117 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: think I'm one to complain about something whilst also not 118 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 2: thinking about what comes next. What else is possible because 119 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: social media is embedded in our lives in so many ways. 120 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like alcohol or caffeine or 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: processed sugar. It's addictive, but we can find ways to 122 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: be healthier and more sustainable about our consumption whilst also 123 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: not completely limiting ourselves from some of the pleasure and 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: some of the good that it does give us. To 125 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: begin with, I'm going to kind of talk through my 126 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: own experience and what's kind of led me to come 127 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: to this revelation that social media is negatively impacting, perhaps ruining, 128 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: my mental health. I think that I never imagined that 129 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: social media was going to such a huge role in 130 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: my life when I was younger, in my teen years, 131 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: I kind of stayed away from social media. I went 132 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I think I quit social media for like a year's 133 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: at one point. There's always kind of been this conscious 134 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: part of me that's recognized that it is doing things 135 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: to our brains that we are probably not fully aware of. 136 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: And then I started this podcast. When I started the show, 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: obviously if you have been a loyal Day one listener, 138 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: of which there are probably very few of you, because 139 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: it really was just like my parents and my friends 140 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: and my grandma, I really just wanted to share my 141 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: own experiences in my twenties kind of. I remember having 142 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: this thought that this kind of project would be great 143 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: for me to look back on in the future and 144 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: have like a catalog like it almost diary like entries 145 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: and voice memos of what I was experiencing at the time, 146 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: like a journal. And then I just got so into it. 147 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: I was so passionate about it. There was so much 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: to talk about. People started following. And now social media 149 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,239 Speaker 2: has become a component of my career as the podcast 150 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: has become my full time job, which I'm so lucky 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: to be able to say. It's interesting that social media 152 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: becomes is hand in hand with that, even though I'm 153 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: doing something that it's completely separate from Instagram, from TikTok. 154 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'm making a podcast. I'm talking into a 155 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: microphone about psychology and mental health. In our twenties, there 156 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: is this expectation that you need to have an online 157 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: presence to kind of make your podcast or I guess 158 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: like make your job and your career seem legitimate, right, 159 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Like how can people know that you are doing good stuff? 160 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: And how can people find you if they can't find 161 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: you through the platforms that they spend their most time on, 162 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: Through Instagram, through TikTok, through x through whatever it is. 163 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: Social media is now I think an e part of 164 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: my job as just you know, content creation through an 165 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: audio sense. I've even had meetings where people will be like, well, 166 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: we want you to improve your numbers or we need 167 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: you to improve your online engagement before we can do 168 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: a project. With you, even though, like the project has 169 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: nearly nothing to do with my Instagram presence and my 170 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: follower account, Like that's on an entirely different platform I am, 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: like a podcast, I'm not as an influencer or a 172 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: content creator. But it just goes to show that if 173 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: you want to do anything that requires public acknowledgment for success, 174 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: you have to kind of sell your soul a little 175 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: bit to the algorithm. And it made me really obsessive. 176 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: It made me not want to create for myself, It 177 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: made me want to create for others, and it kind 178 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: of made me not enjoy the thing that I loved anymore, 179 00:10:52,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: which is podcasting, which is storytelling and information sharing through audio, right, 180 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: Like that was the main purpose from day one, and 181 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: it just felt like social media became a bigger beast 182 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: than I perhaps wanted it to be. On top of that, 183 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: let's just acknowledge that social media is such a time waster. 184 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: It is an absolute vacuum for our energy and our 185 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: productive hours. And I always think about this saying, how 186 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: you spend your days is how you spend your life, 187 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: and if you are spending five hours a day on 188 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: your phone, on your screens, that is sometimes a third 189 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: of your waking hours, a third of your life plugged 190 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: into this constant, hollow entertainment source, and I just think 191 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: that we can't help it. It's addictive. It is a 192 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: whole way of life in itself. And the thing that 193 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: makes me really realize that is when I started contemplating 194 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: how long I could spend without picking up my phone 195 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: when I was working. How long could I spend off 196 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: my phone before I started noticing urge to automatically pick 197 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: up and scroll for five minutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes. 198 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: It was like a ten minute interruption system. You know, 199 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: even if I'd left my phone in another room whilst 200 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I was working, I was like going on Facebook in 201 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: like my Google search bar. Who uses Facebook anymore? Like 202 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: there was nothing there that I needed to know. There 203 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: was nothing there that was like oppressing information source. It 204 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: was just a distraction. It was just a source of 205 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: a nice little dopamine hit. And it made me realize 206 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: what am I actually getting from this habitual behavior and 207 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: action of experiencing boredom or experiencing I don't know, a 208 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: bit of a rut or a mental rut and just 209 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: picking up my phone immediately. This is a question I 210 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: always ask myself, and I think I've posed it on 211 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: the podcast before, but could you honestly tell me five 212 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: things you've seen on social media today? Could you actually 213 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: describe to me five tiktoks that you've watched in the 214 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: last week and how did they improve your life? What 215 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: impression are these things really making? But more seriously, what 216 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: is it contributing? How much of what you are observing 217 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: for sometimes hours on hours a day on an end, 218 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: how much of that is actually permanent? You know what 219 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean? Like? Could there is not like those hours 220 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: that you spend on social media are dead hours. To me, 221 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: they are dead hours. There is nothing that is sitting 222 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: in your permanent, long term memory that is useful that 223 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: you are gaining from scrolling. I will say there are 224 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: certainly good things I do follow some creators that have 225 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: had a really important impact on my life. There is 226 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: this new Zealander creator called Riley j. She posts running 227 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: content and that has really inspired me to like start 228 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: running again and being really serious about it. Keielan Montcreef. 229 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: She gives me a lot of things to contemplate. My 230 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: friend sal and Owl they are just like such a 231 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: positive influence online. They have great lifestyle tips, great saving tips. 232 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: I take their advice. Those are people that I think 233 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: are really worth following, and I can consciously remember things 234 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: that they've said, or questions that they've posed, or content 235 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: that they've posted that makes me stop and contemplate or 236 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: change something about how I'm living my daily life. The 237 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: community aspect is also brilliant. 238 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: You know. 239 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I love seeing what my friends are doing who have 240 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: moved to the other side of the world without having 241 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: to wait for them to, you know, send me a 242 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: postcard every three months. There is a lot of good, 243 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: but it is this weird trade off. The trade off 244 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: is do you receive some of those those perks and 245 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: those benefits of community of inspiration If the trade off 246 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: is your time, which is one of the most precious 247 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: things that we have. If the trade off is your 248 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: own I guess intelligence and your capacity to have original thoughts. 249 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: The other element of this that I think we are 250 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: speaking on a lot more is just the general negativity 251 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: that is everywhere. At the moment I just started to 252 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: see the world as a bad place, I would be 253 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: scrolling social media, scrolling Instagram mainly, and I would go 254 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: into the comment section of reels don't do that. There 255 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: is nothing good for you in there. There is literally 256 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: nothing good for you in there. It is just like 257 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: a terrible health fire pit of everyone's worst thoughts and 258 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: worst feelings towards another human that they somehow feel they 259 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: have the right to express openly on their platform. There 260 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: was just so much hatred and troll accounts, and I 261 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: think I began to anticipate what the comment section was 262 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: going to say before I was even opening the comment section, 263 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: before I was even posting a video of my own, 264 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, so organically I began adopting the negativity of 265 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: those who were already negative, without them maybe needing to 266 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: say anything, right, Like my mindset had shifted into their 267 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: mindset to be protective or preventative, to kind of anticipate 268 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: what they were going to say. But in as a 269 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: result that made me a negative person. That is like 270 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: talk about indoctrination. That is just like a complete mind 271 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: fucked me. You know. The hate that we have for 272 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: each other is just like actually devastating, And those words 273 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: have like a meaningful impact as someone who has like 274 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: an online presence, and I hate saying that because I 275 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: just feel like icky about it, But as someone who 276 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: does have an online presence, and it's something that obviously 277 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for, but it's kind of like the devil. 278 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: I know, those words that people say that you might 279 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: type out and be like, I'm just gonna send that 280 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: off that has a meaningful impact on someone, that can 281 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: ruin their day, that can stick with them for months 282 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: after you have already forgotten who they are, what they posted, 283 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: what angered you. There are just certain people who I 284 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: see commenting on things where I'm like, I would hate 285 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: to live in your brain. I would hate to be 286 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: in there. That just seems so tiring, that just seems 287 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: so exhausting, so negative, so unhappy that you have these 288 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: thoughts that are so powerful in your head that you 289 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: can't help but share them tangibly with others. And I 290 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: just started to believe that, having seen all these people 291 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: and all this, you know, this like pattern of comments 292 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: and trolle accounts and whatnot, that the world was a 293 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: bad place, that the world was negative, that people were 294 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: becoming mean and cruel. Even if I can consciously step 295 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: back and say, you know, these people don't know me, 296 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: they will never know me, they have never spoken to me, 297 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: they don't know what thoughts I have internal feelings, what 298 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: moral dilemmas I face, the guilt that I experience at times, 299 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: the relationships that I have, the problems of my own 300 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: that I'm trying to manage. I just think that social 301 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 2: media gives you, like the highlight reel, of course, but 302 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: also gives you, like just the film on top of 303 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: the rest of life, right, like just the surface level 304 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: of everyone's lives and everyone's feelings and everyone's feelings towards 305 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: other people. It's also been so interesting comparing this to 306 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: my boyfriend, who has zero social media presence. He has 307 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: like an Instagram account he uses to follow his sisters 308 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: and me, and that's it. And it's really interesting because 309 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: for the last ten years, as we have, most of 310 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: us have gotten sucked into basically a social media addiction 311 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: or a social media dependence. He hasn't had that experience. 312 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: And some of the things that I've noticed is that 313 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: he experiences a lot less fomo, you know, a lot 314 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: less of the sphear of missing out. He is a 315 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: lot more secure in his opinion of himself. He is 316 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: on his phone a whole lot less, He procrastinates less, 317 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: He is able to focus for more extended periods of time, 318 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: he has a greater attention span compared to me. It's 319 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: almost like an observational experiment, right, It's like I've gone 320 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: through the last ten, twelve, thirteen years with social media 321 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: being part of my daily life, and he hasn't. And 322 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: these are the kinds of people that we've turned out 323 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: to be. And I can't help but think that it 324 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: really just truly comes down to how unplugged this man is. 325 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: You know, his screen time is often less than like 326 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: an hour or two hours each day, and that is 327 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: just so much extra time, Like when you really think 328 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: of it, that is like three additional hours, sometimes four 329 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: additional hours that he spends like actually looking at the 330 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: world with his eyes upwards, whereas a lot of us 331 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: are trapped in what feels like a bit of a cult, right, Like, 332 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: all my connections are built around it, slowly, my career 333 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: is tied to it. It's at times where I get 334 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: a lot of my news first. You know, if I 335 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: open in Instagram first thing in the morning, there will 336 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: be like the New York Times article, the variety article 337 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: of the BBC article, that will be the first thing 338 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: that I see that is giving me, like the headlines 339 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: for the day. It's integral. There is no way of 340 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: imagining what life would be without it, and yet everything 341 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: is pointing to us needing to take a step back nowadays. 342 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: We've gone too far. Anecdotally, I can see that we've 343 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: gone too far. Scientifically, even legally, on a global level, 344 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: we can see that this has gone too far. There 345 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: are some papers that have come out recently linking excessive 346 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: social media usage, which is over two hours a day. 347 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are hitting that it's 348 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: links that that's what they call excessive with poor mental 349 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: health outcomes. That means that you are more likely to 350 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: experience chronic stress, anxiety, depressive symptoms. And just recently, if 351 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: you've been watching the news, Meta, the company that obviously 352 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: owns Instagram and Facebook, they had to stand up before 353 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: Congress and say, yes, we are sorry. We know that 354 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: our apps are used for misinformation. We know that our 355 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: apps are used for cyber bullying that has caused people 356 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: to take their own lives. We know that our apps 357 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: have been designed to be addictive. We're sorry. Not that 358 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: that really means much, because they continue to do everything 359 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: in their power to keep you hooked. Their paychecks really 360 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: rely on your inability to say no to all the 361 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: temptations that they are offering. And it's not to say 362 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: that you have poor self control or poor self discipline. 363 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Like there are entire teams of neuroscientists and data engineers 364 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: and literally sometimes even psychologists who are helping them design 365 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: systems that are addictive. You know, it is hijacking the 366 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: systems by which we experience and kind of administer and 367 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: process dopamine. Essentially, social media provides this endless amount of 368 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: immediate information and immediate reward in the form of attention 369 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: from others or bright li slashy colors. Information that you 370 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: see is important, and so the brain rewires itself through 371 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: this positive reinforcement, either the pleasure that we receive the 372 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: dopamine that we received from being entertained, or from people's likes, 373 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: people's views, people's retweets, people's reactions, and that we get 374 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: these like short bursts of hits of dopamine that actually 375 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: overall lower out sensitivity to not real dopamine, but sustained 376 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: long term kind of healthy dopamine is what I would 377 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: call it. Essentially, we are receiving a lot of instant 378 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: gratification from these apps, which means that we have a 379 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: lot more of this neurotransmitter available to us in our brain, 380 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: and so our brain is like, well, we have all this, 381 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: you know, we have this like drug, this happy chemical 382 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: running around in our brain. Maybe we should shut off 383 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: some of the receptors because we can't actually process all 384 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: of this dopamine that's running between our neurons and passing 385 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: through our synapses. So basically what that means is that 386 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: you have a lowered sensitivity. So over time, you're going 387 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: to need more hits, more content, more attention, more time 388 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: to receive that same level of pleasure that you were 389 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: previously getting. That's before we even include the role of 390 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: algorithms in the equation. My sister said something really interesting 391 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: to me the other day. She said, if you download TikTok, 392 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: you have about a two week period before it gets 393 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 2: really addictive. So is that two week period is all 394 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: you have because after that time has passed, that is 395 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: how long it takes for the algorithm to learn what 396 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: you like and to start feeding you all the things 397 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: and the themes and the topics that are really going 398 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: to get your brain, specifically your brain firing that are 399 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: really going to sit within a niche that had already 400 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: existed beyond social media that you obviously are going to 401 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: be attentive towards. So I tested this out. I actually 402 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: don't use TikTok anymore because, like I said, it's addictive. 403 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: It was really negatively impacting me. So I deleted TikTok 404 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: about two months ago, maybe a little bit more now, 405 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: But right at the start of when I did that, 406 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: I re downloaded it and I couldn't get into my account. 407 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: So I created a new account. And what started off 408 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: as like just general content and like dancing videos and 409 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: cooking videos and just things that everyone would kind of like. 410 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: Within two weeks, I was getting boxing content. I was 411 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: getting Sydney restaurant recommendations. I was getting Taylor Swift updates. 412 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: I was getting a book talk referenced like things from 413 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: book Talk that were like exactly matching the books that 414 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: I had just read. I was getting travel recommendations for 415 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: places that I'm not visiting for another three months. That 416 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: is how good they are at capturing your attention by 417 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: using your data to keep you plugged in. I know 418 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: this sounds really like suspicious and very like, I don't know, 419 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: hoaxy and strange, but there is all this evidence for 420 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: this occurring. And I think that as they begin to 421 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: form a monopoly over every aspect of our lives, that 422 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: monopoly also creates power. It creates power over our lives. 423 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: And I don't think that that is doing more good 424 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: than harm, at least in my own personal life. So 425 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: what do we actually do about that? 426 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: Right? 427 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: Like, It's one thing to complain about something, but I 428 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: think that we also need solutions. I'm going to talk 429 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: about all of that and so much more after this shortbreak. Alrighty, 430 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: So in addressing how social media is impacting our lives 431 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: and what we can do about it, I want to 432 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: talk about three aspects. What we can do about social 433 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: media as a source of negativity, what we can do 434 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: about social media as a time waster, and what we 435 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: can do about social media as a source of inadequate 436 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: and social comparison. So, starting at the top, what can 437 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: we do about social media as a source of negativity? 438 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: Number one, I would say, make sure that you are 439 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: curating an online environment that makes you feel comfortable. If 440 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: you notice that there is certain topics, certain videos that 441 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: really make you feel pretty awful, whether that is I 442 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: don't know, body content gym content, online trolling content, celebrity 443 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: content that is just like overtly negative. Set boundaries for 444 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: yourself that essentially instruct you when it's time to unfollow 445 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: those accounts or restrict your access to them. Something that 446 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: I like to do is when I see something where 447 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is immediately making me frustrated and angry, 448 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: and I know that that is like part of the 449 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: technique to keep me attached is like, I'm going to 450 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: disagree with this, so I'm going to become more engaged 451 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: in what other people are saying. I immediately press like 452 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: not interested, I scroll, I like, find the little settings area, 453 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: and I go not interested, Like don't shown content from 454 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: this person again, just in order to kind of limit 455 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: my sense that the world is a bad place by 456 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: constantly seeing content from people who are pretty adamant or 457 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: making it seem that way. The other thing that I 458 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: say is where you see negativity, leave positivity interrupt the 459 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: thought process that is making you see everything is terrible 460 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: by being the good that you want to kind of 461 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: see in the world. So I've been doing this recently. 462 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll watch a video and I'll be like, all right, 463 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: I just know what the comment section is going to 464 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: look like here. I just know. I know that if 465 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: it's a woman at the gym who doesn't look like 466 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: most women at the gym, there are going to be 467 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: thousands of men in the comment section just like absolutely 468 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: abusing her and being so cruel. So I'm gonna make 469 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: a conscious decision to like leave a positive comment on 470 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: this video, even though I don't normally like to. You know, 471 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like a prowler. Like even though I 472 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: don't normally like to like leave comments on things because 473 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just feels strange, I always try 474 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: and do it with those videos, right, Like the same thing. 475 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: I saw this video of this girl the other day 476 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: who was like, can you notice my biggest insecurity? Like, no, 477 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: you can't, so you know, move on with your life. 478 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: And everyone in the comment section was like, oh, I 479 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: can notice it. It's this, it's that, it's your skin, 480 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: it's your face, it's your body. What the heck? And 481 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: so I just left a nice comment, and I think 482 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: that it just shows it kind of like rewires your 483 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: thought process whereby instead of thinking like everyone is out 484 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: there to be mean, it's like, no, that's not true, 485 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: because I'm not out here to be mean, and there 486 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: must be other people who are in the same boat. 487 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: And you see it, people start engaging with your comments 488 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: because they're looking for something in that comment section that's 489 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: going to actually match what they feel, which is that 490 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: this person is doing an amazing job, this person is beautiful, 491 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: this person is kind, this person does not deserve criticism. Let's, 492 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, elevate those voices that are seeking to promote 493 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: a more kind, compassionate, empathetic mindset on these platforms that 494 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: whereby you know, the algorithm does promote negativity and troll 495 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: accounts above everything else because they capture our attention. Next, 496 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: in order to kind of address social media as a 497 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: time waster for yourself, I think there are a few 498 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: things that you need to do. Firstly, try and break 499 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: that urge to pick up your phone whenever you are 500 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: feeling bored, lonely, distracted, frustrated. See how long you can 501 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: hold off, See how long you can ignore or suppress 502 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: that immediate need to satisfy an itch and urge a desire. 503 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: When you do that, you're experiencing delayed gratification. We talked 504 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: about this before. Essentially, what you're doing is saying to 505 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: your brain like, hey, I actually have a conscious voice here. 506 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm a conscious decider, a conscious actor. When it comes 507 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: to the urges that you send my way, I don't 508 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: have to act on them. I'm making it a choice 509 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: based on what I think is best. I don't have 510 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: to do what you say I need to do. You know, 511 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: it's not like an urge or it's not like a 512 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: craving for water, or a craving for food, or for 513 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: sleep or for safety. It's just a craving for dopamine. 514 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 2: It's a craving for distraction that can be ignored. And 515 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: you can hold yourself back from fulfilling that and see 516 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: how long you can do it for. Is it five minutes? 517 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Is it for ten? Is it for an hour? And 518 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: slowly train your brain and train yourself to recognize that 519 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: you don't always have to give in to what you 520 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: immediately want. It's also about identifying behaviors that cause you 521 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: to look for that quick boost, right. Is it when 522 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: you are bored? Is it when you are lonely? Like 523 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: we said before, I think that knowing what the root 524 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: kind of trigger is for this seeking behavior, this social 525 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: media seeking behavior, is really important in limiting it. This 526 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: is where the idea of a dopamine detox often comes 527 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: in detox meaning, you know, just an opportunity to kind 528 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: of cleanse your body of a bad thing, in this case, 529 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: excessive social media usage. The premise of a dopamin detox 530 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: is that you reduce your brain sensitivity to dopamine by 531 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: removing that kind of like removing a behavior or a 532 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: substance or a stimuli or an experience for a period 533 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: of time so that your brain gets used to not 534 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: having it. Ideally, by the end of the detox, you 535 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: feel more center, you feel more balanced, less affected by 536 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: your usual dopamine triggers. However, I do think that we 537 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: should be a little bit suspicious of this. I do 538 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: think it's important to take time away, to step back, 539 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: to provide your mind and your brain with a place 540 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: for clarity and for peace that is not constantly interrupted 541 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: by loud music and dancing and controversy. I think a 542 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: more accurate description, though, of dopmin detox is actually just 543 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: a period of abstinence or unplugging from the world, which 544 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: just serves to minimize distraction and reliance, to kind of 545 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: show you that you can live without this thing, even 546 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: if it's hard, right, You are essentially battling a system 547 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: that wants to keep you addicted and plugged in. And 548 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: I think it's important to sometimes show ourselves that we 549 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: can live without that, that the world would not end, 550 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: that you can take a step back, and it might 551 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: feel hard, it might feel difficult, but that very the 552 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: very reality that it feels difficult, and then it kind 553 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: of feels painful in a way, feels like you're in 554 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: a state of withdrawal. The very fact that it feels 555 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: like that is probably a sign that you needed to 556 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: do it, that there was something there that was borderline unhealthy, 557 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: borderline dependent. Finally, let's address social media as a form 558 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: of inadequacy and social comparison. The very nature of social media, 559 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: in that it keeps us interconnected, means that we have thousands, 560 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: if not millions, of opportunities at any time of the 561 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 2: day to compare ourselves on any number of factors. We 562 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: can compare our bodies to people we see on our 563 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: for you page. We can compare our careers on LinkedIn. 564 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: We can compare how many friends we have on you 565 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: Know to tiktoks that we see. If people who seemingly 566 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: have it all how fashionable we are, how happy we are, Like, 567 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: there are just so many opportunities to look at someone 568 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: else's life and feel like you are lacking. And for 569 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: that sense of lacking, for that sense of having less 570 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: to impact how you enjoy your reality. I just want 571 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: you to remind yourself this is not real. Social media 572 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: is not real. Anyone can present or say anything without 573 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: it being true, without it being accurate. I think about 574 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: my own social media presence, right, you know, so many 575 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: of those photos that I posted from like ages ago, 576 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: or they're from like spread out over weeks, or they're 577 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: from like the one day that week that I looked nice. 578 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm recording this podcast right now, and I am wearing 579 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: a wolf shirt. My hair is up in a bun 580 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: I look foul. I'm not wearing pants. I will say. 581 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: That's just a little secret. Like I'm not gonna post 582 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: this on social media, but people, I got this comment 583 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: from someone the other day being like, oh my god, 584 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: I'm just like so jealous of you and how many 585 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: friends you have, and I was like, that is not true, 586 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: Like that is this is just an impression. This is 587 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: your perspective. I still am someone who is like deeply 588 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: lonely at times and who deeply struggles with the sense 589 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: of permanency around my friendships. I am still someone who 590 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: struggles with how I see my body in comparison to 591 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: other people. But you can choose to kind of curate 592 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 2: what that looks like for people. It's not real. It's 593 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: not real. I also think that a really great way 594 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: to counteract this sense that it is is to well, 595 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: not even just the sense that it is real, but 596 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: the sense that what other people are showing you is 597 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: important for your life, is to spend time in nature. 598 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: We know that it's so healing to be outdoors, to 599 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: touch and feel and smell and see something that matters, 600 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: and to see something that is real and that you 601 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: can confirm is real. I think it really brings you 602 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: back to reality. It's a bit of a perspective shift. 603 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: So often, like we get stuck in this like the 604 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: space between our mind and our screen, and that seems 605 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 2: like the only thing that matters, and it seems like 606 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: it is a lot more important than it is when 607 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: going outside and being like, there is a whole world 608 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: outside of this, and nobody cares about what that person 609 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: is saying. Nobody cares about what that person is doing 610 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: like they may do, but is it really impacting like 611 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: all the other things that are going on in the 612 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: world that require our attention. Probably not, you know, it's 613 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: just this, I think an important practice to pull yourself 614 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 2: out of phantom reality from time to time, either through 615 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: what we said was a dopamin detox or through just 616 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: making a conscious decision to like put yourself in a 617 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: situation where you are completely unplugged outdoors, enjoying fresh air, 618 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: enjoying the ocean, enjoying the smells, the sites, the beauty 619 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: of nature and of your surroundings. With the social comparison thing, 620 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: I will say one more thing on that everyone who 621 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: you are comparing yourself to is also comparing themselves to 622 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: somebody else. It is this whole continuous cycle and loop 623 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: of comparison. I don't think anybody is safe from it. 624 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: There is not a single person out there who I 625 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: would say is active on social media and feels great 626 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: about themselves all the time. They just like to give 627 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: the impression that they are, But there are so many 628 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: sources for us to feel dissatisfied, and nobody is immune 629 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: to that. So you are only human, You are fallible. 630 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: We are all insecure. We are all battling something behind 631 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: the guise of our feed and what we post. Make 632 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 2: sure that that you don't lose sight of that. Make 633 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: sure that you are aware of the ways in which 634 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: you know everything is not as it seems, especially on 635 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: platforms where there is an incentive to make things look better, 636 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: when there is an incentive to post content that is aesthetic, 637 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: because it will be high performing, because it will attract people, 638 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: because it will get their attention, because that is what 639 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: they want, because that is a life that someone is 640 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: trying to sell them. All right, I think that that 641 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: is enough for me today, and I acknowledge that it 642 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: was a rant, obviously. I think that this has been 643 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: something on my mind for some time, and if you 644 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 2: follow me on Instagram, you'll see that I've just put 645 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: some things in place to make my online environment safer, 646 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: some online boundaries, some online rules. It's important to talk about. 647 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: You know, it is a really big factor and influence. 648 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: And if you can relate to this, to any aspect 649 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: of this, I believe in you. I'm proud of you 650 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: for at least getting this far where you're having like 651 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: conscious thoughts around something in your life that might be 652 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: unhealthy that being social media, and I get that it's 653 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: really hard. I get that it's really addictive, and that 654 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: you can really want to want. You know that one 655 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: thing is the right thing, right. You know that there 656 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: is something that you need to do for your health, 657 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: but you just can't bring yourself to do it. It's not 658 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: all your fault that you's are deliberately made to be addictive. All. 659 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: So many aspects of our lives are embedded in social 660 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: media right now, our careers, our social lives, our work. 661 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: So I'm rooting for you if you were in it together, 662 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: I promise, And just a reminder to be kind to people. 663 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: Be kind. If you see negativity, leave positivity. If you 664 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: want to say something, don't. You're going to feel better 665 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: anyways if you don't say it, if you don't ruin 666 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: somebody's day, you never know the sting that words leave. 667 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's where I'm going to leave it. 668 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 2: I think that is a great final message. Be kind 669 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: to others and be really kind to yourself as well, 670 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: because you deserve to be happy and to be gentle 671 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: with yourself, and to create an environment, whether that is 672 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: online or in your real life, that doesn't leave you 673 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: feeling shit about the world and shit about yourself. So 674 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening. As always, if you 675 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: enjoyed this episode, please feel free to leave a five 676 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: star review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify wherever you are listening 677 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: radio app I don't know what the other ones are 678 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: wherever you are in the world. Please feel free to 679 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: also send me some episode suggestions. I love hearing from you. 680 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: We can't always do them all, but it is great 681 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: to hear what other people in their twenties are going 682 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 2: through and to then have the opportunity to look into 683 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: the psychology of those things. It is so much fun. 684 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: And I also just love hearing from you. I love 685 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: hearing from people all over the world. Who are you know? 686 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: Listening to this content and relating to it makes a 687 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: lot of our experiences feel quite universal. Makes me feel 688 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: less alone. You can also follow me on Instagram at 689 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: that psychology podcast. I get the irony of me saying 690 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: that after a social media episode, but I actually no 691 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: longer am like actively running that account, so feel free 692 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 2: to go and see what's going on there. I don't 693 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: really know, just kidding I do, but it would be 694 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: great to, you know, build out nice like actual positive 695 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: corner of the community, of the social media community and 696 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: as always, we will be back next week with another episode. 697 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: Until then, stay safe and be kind to yourself.