1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome the Cannabis Talk one oh one featuring Blue with 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Joe Gronde, the world's number one source for everything cannabis. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: number one source for everything cannabis. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 3: My name's Blue. 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Alongside of me is the world famous Joe Grande, and 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: you are now tuned into the greatest cannabis show on 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: the planet. 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 4: That's right, folks. 10 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 5: Thank you for listening to our podcast all around the world. 11 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 5: To make sure you check out our website, Cannabis Talk 12 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 5: one on one dot com as you have so many 13 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 5: great articles and blogs on the site for you guys 14 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 5: to read and check out, and feel free to give 15 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 5: us a call anytime one eight hundred and four twenty 16 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty and check us out on YouTube or Instagram 17 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 5: or all social media at Cannabis Talk one oh one. 18 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 5: Blue was at the number one Christopher Wright and you 19 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 5: could always catch me on the gram at Joe Grande 20 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 5: fifty two and my latest post Boy when we were 21 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 5: at that Grammy nominated Little O Booy Hit Boys little 22 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 5: spot right there in Hollywood. 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Salute First off, for that dumb 38 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 5: man that's right, here is a salute. 39 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like when I seen that. 40 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 5: Besides this, we got Madison SHACKI the third the CEO 41 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: of Cadre. 42 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: I mean, off the top, I don't know what Cadre means. 43 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 5: What we're gonna find out soon, which is a social 44 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: equity cannabis product and lifestyle brand that focuses on delivering 45 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 5: high quality products while creating jobs as well as ownership 46 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 5: opportunities for the black and brown communities affected by the 47 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: War on drugs. They're putting the power back into the 48 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 5: hands of the people, you guys, for as we all know, though, 49 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 5: power is given and not taken. Be sure to check 50 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 5: out their website the Cadre dot com, t h E 51 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: c A d r e dot com or follow them 52 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: on ig at Join the Cadre j O I N 53 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 5: t h E c A d r E to peep 54 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: their super dank Flower and all their cartries in pre 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 5: roles that they got to offer without further ado. Give 56 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: it up for the CEO of Cadre Madison Shop News 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: the third. 58 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: In the buildings. 59 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. 60 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: Thank you introduction, No, thank you, you earned that probably 61 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: many more so, Like off top, I mean I already 62 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: mentioned these things that you've done. I want to know 63 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 5: first off, the name of the shop, Cadre. What does 64 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: it mean? 65 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cadre. 66 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 6: It has a few different meanings, but I took the 67 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 6: meaning from my research into previous. 68 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: Revolutions that we can learn from. 69 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 6: You know, I was studying Huey Newton and he was 70 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 6: talking about the term cadre and and how he was 71 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 6: learning the word cadre UH for people like Chake Rivera 72 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: and Jake Rivera talked about, you know, after the success 73 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: of the revolution, it's going to be the cadre that 74 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 6: take over and are responsible for creating the new world 75 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 6: that we live in, that that are responsible for teaching 76 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: everybody else the new UH political ideology and the way 77 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: of life. And I just believe that the way things 78 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 6: are going in society UH is broken down and corrupted, 79 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: and the cadre are the people that are going to 80 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: change things for the better and create a new world. 81 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: So you're a deep brother him, he's a. 82 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: I love that. 83 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: That's dope. 84 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 6: You know, created cadre UH shortly after winning the lawsuit 85 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: against the City of l a And that whole effort 86 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 6: wasn't just me myself, It was a group of us. 87 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: It was the cadre Cares exactly exactly people who were 88 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: dedicated and talented at creating change. 89 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: Talk about this lawsuit, as you just mentioned it, what happened? 90 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: How did you create it? 91 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: Where were you about to get didn't? 92 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 93 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: How did you wait? 94 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 6: In twenty nineteen, I learned about the Social Equity Program 95 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 6: and I learned that I qualified because I had been 96 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 6: arrested for selling weed when I was a teenager, and 97 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 6: so that arrest qualified me, and so I started pursuing 98 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: my retail storefront license in the city of la and 99 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 6: we all, myself, amongst over eight hundred other people applied 100 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: in this round of licensing, and unfortunately, the process wasn't 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: managed fairly or properly, and so a lot of people 102 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: who had put a lot into trying to redeem their 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 6: life through this program. You know, people who had been 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 6: victims of the War on drugs either been arrested or 105 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 6: grew up in communities that were disproportionately targeted for arrests 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 6: for marijuana, were now given an opportunity to now turn 107 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 6: that around and get licensed to operate in the commercial 108 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 6: point of this industry. But the process for that to 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: happened was corrupted, and so a lot of us applied. 110 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: And when you say corrupted, how I think I remember? 111 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: I think, I mean I've heard of it, But like, 112 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: how was it corrupted that? Can? I can I jump 113 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: in right here for a second. 114 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: I think what happened was is the portal opened up 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: like thirty seconds before, and there was a group of 116 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: individuals that knew about that portal, and so they were 117 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: able to jump in yeah and do is that correct? 118 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: That's right. 119 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: The portal was supposed to open at ten am on 120 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 6: September third, twenty nineteen, and it opened ten minutes early. 121 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Oh, ten minutes early, yeah, damn. 122 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 6: And so hundreds of people were able to apply before 123 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 6: the official start time of the application. And so the 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 6: lawsuit what it was about, essentially, it was about proving 125 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 6: that the city did not conduct the process as the 126 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 6: law said it was supposed to be administered. And so 127 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 6: it was supposed to be a first come, first serve process, 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 6: and all of us were applying on a website and 129 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 6: it was supposed to start at ten am. Because it 130 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 6: started early, so the city put out a list of 131 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 6: what they said it was the first come, first serve 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 6: order of the people getting licenses, and there was only 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 6: one hundred licenses available. So eight hundred people apply and 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 6: only one hundred people are going to get We have 135 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 6: that video, okay, yeah, in the video. Our brothers in 136 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: law were yes, yes, when that video leak, you guys, 137 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 6: did we leaked that video? 138 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Remember that? That's crazy man? 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember that's so circle because now I remember 140 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 5: exactly what it was, but I didn't know it was. 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: That was the corruption from what we were talking about. 142 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: I didn't really leaked that the video that we knew about. 143 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: And we're dealing with another couple too, or was it 144 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 5: you and your l so did I meet you there? 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: Okay, nobody, but the video that you all leaked. 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 6: We recorded that video when we were submitting applications and 147 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 6: we were responsible with myself and in a team of 148 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 6: small team of us. Are we responsible for submitting over 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 6: twenty applications that day and mine was included in that 150 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 6: twenty application. 151 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: We set it up. 152 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 6: We set up a room where we had twenty MacBook 153 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 6: computers all hardwired to fiber optic internet connection. 154 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: Because it was a competition. 155 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: Sure, oh yeah, you want to get the fastest best, 156 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: let's go. 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: And so we also had the presence of mind to 159 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 6: screen record submitting all these applications. You know, I just 160 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 6: anticipated there was gonna be some type of hack or 161 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 6: something might go wrong when you have technology involved in 162 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: a process like this, So we recorded it. 163 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: That's very smart, you, Madison, very smart you. 164 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad I did. 165 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 6: Glad I did because the city basically announced that you know, 166 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 6: the process went perfectly smooth. Everything was was great. This 167 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: is a model for how the rest of the country 168 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 6: could conduct cannabis licensing. And I knew that wasn't true. 169 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: And so we took those recordings and we shared them 170 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 6: with folks and it made its way to you all, 171 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 6: and you all publicized it. Yeah, and that helped us 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 6: get a lot of attention for what was going wrong. 173 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 5: Wow, So how did you win the lawsuit? Did you 174 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: what happened? How did the outcome turn out? 175 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 176 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 6: So when we started the Social Equity Owners and Workers Association, 177 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 6: the catalyst of it really was to mobilize the folks 178 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 6: who were wronged in this process to be able to 179 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 6: fight back. So we started the organization and our recruiting 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: call to our members was joined this lawsuit against the 181 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 6: city if you were part of this unfair process. And 182 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 6: so initially a small group of five to seven of 183 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 6: us put up the money to retain the attorney. It 184 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 6: was seventy five hundred dollars for the initial retainer and 185 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 6: we split it up like five ways, and that's how 186 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 6: we got the process started. I had really analyzed these 187 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 6: videos and the list that the city had put out 188 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 6: talking about what order people had submitted in and I 189 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 6: discovered that the city wasn't being honest about the order 190 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 6: of the submissions, and I was able to cross reference 191 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 6: their list of time stamps with the. 192 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Video recordings of your timestamps, yes, and your completions yes, 193 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: and they were way off. 194 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: Yes, they were. That's huge. 195 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 6: And so essentially I figured out a legal theory that 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 6: we could pursue that the city wouldn't be able to deny, 197 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: and so we filed a rid of mandness, a rid 198 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: of mandate essentially asking a judge to determine whether the 199 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,119 Speaker 6: city had followed the law when they administered this process. 200 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 6: And so I had singled out the point in the 201 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 6: law where it said that it had to be a 202 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 6: first come, first serve process, and when I showed that 203 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 6: their list wasn't the accurate list of who came first 204 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 6: in the process, then. 205 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: That's where they were in trouble. 206 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 6: Sure, so we got an expedited hearing or an injunction 207 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 6: on the program, and so two weeks from that order 208 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 6: you were supposed to have a corporate Well in. 209 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: Between that time, the city council came to the table 210 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: to negotiate at our. 211 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 6: Attorneys and ultimately settled the lawsuit by the City of 212 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 6: Green to create additional one hundred dispensory licenses for social equity. 213 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: Damn, So you guys allowed that, So now there's two hundred. 214 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: Yes, well and Ray job. And let me ask you this. 215 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of people out there right 216 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: now that are looking that are still social equity. 217 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: They should be you know, able to you know, get 218 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: a license under social equity. Do they still have an opportunity? 219 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: It's Cannabis talking to woman. When we come back. 220 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Follow the at one Christopher Wright followed Joe Grunde at 221 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: Joe Grunde fifty two. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter on 222 00:10:50,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: our website, Cannabis Talk one on one dot com. 223 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: Welcome back. 224 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: Elevated Global Supply the highest standard packaging. 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Yes now today automatically grant you one 248 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and grandfather you in not automatically. 249 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 6: So when they created the additional one hundred licenses, they 250 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 6: decided to license the next one hundred people in line. 251 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 6: And you know, essentially that was you, guys, I was 252 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: in that next hundred. If you weren't located too close 253 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 6: to somebody else who came in line before you, then 254 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 6: you were selected because there's a buffer rule in Los 255 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 6: Angeles where you can't be within six hundred feet if 256 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 6: somebody So if somebody else in line before you was 257 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 6: within six hundred feet of your location, you would have 258 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 6: been knocked out. 259 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: So thankfully I didn't get knocked out. Oh good. 260 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 6: And I did get my license and just opened my 261 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: dispensary about three months ago. 262 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: Oh congratulations. Where are you located at. 263 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: It's in southeast La, off Avalon and sixty first. 264 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: Oh nic. It's called Off the Charts powered by Cadre. 265 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: Fantastic dude, very proud. 266 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: So now as you know, I know you know, as 267 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: a social equity advocant, you need to retain fifty one 268 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: percent of the company if I'm not mistaken. Now, so 269 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: how does that work? And how are your partners and 270 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: how's that looking for you? 271 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 272 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 6: You know, I started out early on. I've been an 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 6: entrepreneur for the last fifteen years. 274 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: Of my career. 275 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 6: Because I got arrested early in my life for seven lead. 276 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 6: It made it difficult to get corporate gigs. So I 277 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 6: figured out how to be an entrepreneur pretty early on. 278 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 6: And so I've had experience raising money for companies before this. 279 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 6: So what I did early on was raised the friends 280 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 6: and family rap and that allowed me to get started, 281 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 6: you know, hire CPAs and attorneys to learn the you know, 282 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: the ins and out road of cannabis operating. And then 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 6: from there after I applied for the license, I found partners. 284 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: Actually before I applied for the. 285 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 6: License, I found partners, but then I had to get 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 6: out of that contract in order to pursue the lawsuit. 287 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: And then after the lawsuit was successful, I found new 288 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 6: partners and off the charts fantastic. 289 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: Now, if you don't mind me asking, and you could 290 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: just say passed, but what kind of friends and family 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: round did you raise? 292 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 6: The initial one was fifty thousand dollars, Oh, fantastic, Yes, 293 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 6: and I sold. I think I sold like five percent 294 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 6: of my company gotcha at that point, So that was 295 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 6: just family and since then I've had to raise a 296 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: couple other rounds to keep it going. The process has 297 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: been over three years since that lawsuit, and since I 298 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 6: was notified I could get my license, then I had 299 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 6: to raise more capital. I probably raised another eight hundred 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 6: thousand after after getting a license, just to build a 301 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,479 Speaker 6: store out and pay rent on the building until. 302 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: We were able to open up. How long was that 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: process two and a half years. 304 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 5: Wow, So you're paying two and a half years and 305 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: no income coming in on that bad And did. 306 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: You have it built out at that time or you 307 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: just kind of waiting for the No. 308 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 6: So I got the building a great location, but the 309 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: place needed to be pretty much completely REMODELEDE And so 310 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: that process building that store from the ground up and 311 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: getting it permitted and going through the city Building and 312 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: Safety department during COVID. 313 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, that was tough. So that's what took two 314 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: and a half years. Yeah, So is it worth it? Yes? Yeah, yeah, 315 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: you know that. 316 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: I'm an owner now, I'm a owner of a multi 317 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: million dollar business. 318 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 6: I've been able to hire my friends, hire people from 320 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 6: the community where my business is located. 321 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's fantastic man. And so is what your place 322 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: looks like now? I mean right now, you know, if 323 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: we walked in your store, what are we seeing? 324 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. 325 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: I think it's one of the most beautiful stores, cannabis 326 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 6: stores in l a period. I think it's the nicest 327 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 6: retail store in south central Los Angeles, despite cannabis or anything. 328 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. We've got nice, beautiful epoxy floors. We've got. 329 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 6: You know, somebody came in the store recently and said, 330 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: this looks like Louis Vaton store. 331 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a nice wood. 332 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: And led lighting, and like the shelves are floating and 333 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 6: it's a really quality Yeah. 334 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: And let me say this, you know, when you is 335 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: this what you envisioned? I mean, you know, because obviously 336 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: you didn't want to. You didn't want to go to 337 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: to sue the city. I mean, that wasn't your goal. 338 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: You didn't stand up to be like, oh, we're going 339 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: to sue the city. You know, I can't wait to 340 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: see who wants to go up against the giants. 341 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 6: That was not fun because La is one of the 342 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 6: largest municipalities in the world world. 343 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and many many people warned me not to do that, 344 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: you know. 345 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: Because now you're on a big ship list. Yeah, like, oh, 346 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: you want to be on the l A list. 347 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 6: Well, the one of the hardest parts was finding a 348 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 6: lawyer that would take it on, because we were still 349 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 6: in the city. 350 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: Many of the best lawyers in LA wouldn't take it on. 351 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 6: Shout out to Ricky Ivy his firm took on our 352 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 6: cause and represented us very well. 353 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 5: And one for God's sakes, So what sells there at 354 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: your shop there, what's the big sellers. 355 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: I know you got. 356 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: Black Joy canvas, which is called black Joy pre Roll. 357 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: We're proud to have one of the widest assortments of 358 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 6: products of any store. Like we've got almost every brand 359 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 6: you can imagine in our store, but Cadre our house 360 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 6: brand is selling. 361 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: At the top. 362 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 6: You know, people are really excited about the brand and 363 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: what it stands for and how we've built it. 364 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: The people's weed, that's right. 365 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 6: But then also once we launched the product and people 366 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 6: have tried it and they're loving it, they're really like, Okay, 367 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 6: this is this is my this is my brand that 368 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 6: I'm sticking with. 369 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: Man, cadre La. We gotta you have to get one. 370 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: This is cadre La. Yeah, that's the one that's gonna 371 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: crash out. Yeah, we got Los Angeles on our apparel. 372 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: We also have an apparel line Nice that people are loving. 373 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: We throw events. 374 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 6: It's very much about being a part of culture, the community, 375 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 6: working with different artists that are blowing up right now. 376 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, really are you are you? Are you 377 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: originally from. 378 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 6: South Central I was born in South Central, oh Nice, 379 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 6: and so my first three years of life was in 380 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 6: South Central and then I moved to mid City. 381 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, born and raised in Los Angeles. 382 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: Man, and that logo right there, that's see that looks 383 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: dope with the hat. Talk about this logo, what it means? 384 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: It came up with it? 385 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, So our creative director Randy Morales. One of the 386 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 6: things about Cadre is I think we have the best team. 387 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 6: I put my team up against anybody, I'd say often. 388 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 389 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 6: And Randy Morales as our creative director, he's a designer 390 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 6: who came up with this logo with the sea and 391 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 6: the star. 392 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: He came up with this shirt. 393 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 6: We've probably got like twenty different apparel skews that we 394 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 6: have for sale. We pop up at festivals and events, 395 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 6: and we also sell it on our website as you 396 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: can see at the Cadre dot com. So go get 397 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 6: this exclusive merge now before these items sell out. Once 398 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 6: these designs are sold, we're not making the same designs again. 399 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 6: And Randy, who goes by creative vice to me, is 400 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 6: a creative giant in this space. He's one of the 401 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 6: emerging designers and we're really proud to have. 402 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Them on our team and part of what we're doing 403 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: that's awesome man. 404 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: You know, you know, one, Los Angeles is not an 405 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: easy place to build anything, you know what I'm saying. 406 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 5: The hood like that too. I mean, let's just call 407 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 5: it what it is. You in south central, like, I mean, 408 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: you can do it in Zanta, Monica. 409 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 410 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: And and so you know, kudos to you for for 411 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: one is breaking in LA, you know, and taking the time, 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: like you said, two years to even get your doors open. 413 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean, and then you know how much do you 414 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: spend trying to get those doors open? 415 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: Probably over one point two million wow, over the past 416 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 6: for four and a half years or so, uh, since 417 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 6: I started pursuing this, Yeah, and in multiple tranches. You know, 418 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 6: there's many times where I was on the edge, running 419 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: out of money. 420 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: And it could have been over. Yeah. 421 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 6: You know, it's been incredibly hard, and it's taking a 422 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 6: lot of dedication. But I grew up here, I was 423 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 6: born and raised here. I'm second generation LA. You know, 424 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 6: my family's been deeply involved in building this city. 425 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: Good. 426 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: And so when the opportunity came to. 427 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 6: Get license for a cannabis dispensary, and knowing that the 428 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 6: competition for that is really global, Yeah, this. 429 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: Is a big literally global here in La Yeah, yeah, yeah. 430 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 6: And so I didn't want to see that opportunity actually 431 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: when it comes to something that people that look like 432 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 6: me have suffered so much from cannabis, wrongful cannabis enforcement. 433 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and. 434 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 6: How that's torn apart so many of our families, and 435 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: how that was something that was used strategically to just 436 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 6: hold our people back economically and socially. 437 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: And for this to be now allowed. 438 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 6: In our community, in our city, it was important for 439 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 6: me to grab equity in that and to grab market 440 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 6: share and not let that be taken like so many 441 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 6: other things that have been taken from. 442 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: Now, what's the plan for you know, more stores? Are 443 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: you looking at, you know, coming out with more stores? 444 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Do they offer you more opportunity once you've had a 445 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: social equity a store open or how does. 446 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: That work if you want to know more. 447 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, So in Los Angeles, in social equity and in general, 448 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 6: you can have up to three licenses, so I can 449 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: I have the opportunity to apply in future rounds of licensing. 450 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 3: But I've been able to expand my ownership. 451 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 6: By being part of the off the Charts franchise and 452 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: helping that franchise expand other locations. 453 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: H and so is that the locations if it's on 454 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: the website there too? Yes, yeah, because I see the 455 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: location if I'm not mistaken, fifteen different locations right, yes, 456 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 5: and you guys are all over the place. As matter 457 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: of fact, I was talking about this on the on 458 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: our meeting the other day and I was wondering, where 459 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: in the hell is winter Haven, California. 460 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right on the border of Arizona and California. 461 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 6: But you got one of the last by Needles. I 462 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: haven't actually been there. I don't know it's right by Yuma. 463 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 6: I think, oh yeah, okay, yeah. Because I was looking 464 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 6: at this list, I'm like, okay, I know where that. 465 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: I know that where the winter Haven? 466 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 467 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 4: Where is that at? 468 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 6: Off the Charts has expanded very rapidly over the last 469 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 6: couple of years, and you know, I've been a part 470 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 6: of helping expand some of those locations. But really it 471 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 6: comes down to the operations of the brand. Off the Charts. 472 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 6: Off the Charts has a following of cannabis consumer that 473 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 6: are like real fans and real like family to the brand. 474 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: You know, Off the Charts really has the best operations. 475 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 6: And I noticed that about three years ago when I 476 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 6: first walked into the original Off the Charts location. 477 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: In District, California, down in San Diego. 478 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: A few years ago, when I was fighting that lawsuit, 479 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 6: I got addicted. 480 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: From my apartment in LA and had to release my parents. 481 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: I was in San Diego and I need to define it. 482 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: Cannabis dispensable. And that's when I discovered Off the Charts 483 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: and fell in love with and that was my happy place. 484 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: That was where I went for George when I was 485 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 6: in the most struggling times. 486 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: You know, isn't that crazy though? To take of the struggle. 487 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 5: It is so real, Like you lose the apartment, you 488 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: lose everything, works so hard for it, and then to 489 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 5: get it back. 490 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: It's so great. 491 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: When we come back right to take a break real quick, 492 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: I want to hear some anecdotal stories of why cannabis 493 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 5: does work so well for so many patients in South 494 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 5: Central What are the patients coming in for, What have 495 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: you seen how cannabis has really helped that community. 496 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 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What a story that's going on there when 527 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: we went to break though, you're out there in beautiful 528 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: south central Los Angeles. 529 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you see movies, folks. 530 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: If you don't know what the vibe is there, watch 531 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 5: a flick and it's real, like a two dollars bill. 532 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I mean, it ain't fake. The 533 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: things you see. 534 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: In movies is kind of like what it is over there. 535 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: But what have you seen, Madison, As this medicine is 536 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: not only in an area like that, but how have 537 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 5: you seen it help people in these areas? 538 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 6: I've seen people walk into my store and shed it 539 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 6: to you and just express to me how proud they 540 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 6: are that this facility is in their community. 541 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: And you did it so nice the way you describe it. 542 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: You built a beautiful location for a location. 543 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: That needs Yeah. 544 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know the goal was to build something 545 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: beautiful but also like culturally appropriate. So we have a 546 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: lot of street art and graffiti and so it's like 547 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 6: really a mix of luxury and like the urban edge, 548 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 6: and so people have come in and talked about how 549 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: you know, this made them proud of their community to 550 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 6: have a place like this in it. 551 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: You know, people come in for all sorts of stuff. 552 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 6: You know, South La folks, a lot of real smokers, 553 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: a lot of people who smoke and have for and 554 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 6: been part of cannabis smoking weed smoking culture for decades 555 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 6: and really been a part of shaping what that is 556 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 6: and influencing what that is. 557 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 7: You know. 558 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: So you have real connoisseurs in our commission, but you 559 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: got real. 560 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: People that are selling it down the street. I mean, 561 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean you can buy it there. 562 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: You can buy it from that's true. 563 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: But the difference at our stores, our products are tests, Yeah, safer, safer, 564 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 6: there there consistent what you're getting. 565 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, come try this, Cadres is raised right. 566 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 567 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is, I think there's a there's 568 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: a lot of people that do want it to get 569 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: it from the store that that, like you said, cry 570 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: when they come in because they have a safe place 571 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: to get it, because not everybody maybe that was the 572 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: only place they could get it, but now they can 573 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: get it from a safe dispensary that's license that has 574 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: testing that's governed by the state and the city, and 575 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: it's just a better place for them. Do you feel 576 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: that the city is supporting you? And I know Connor, 577 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: you had a question. 578 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 7: Yes, So what was the city's reaction to you bring 579 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 7: forward this lawsuit and pretty much you know, show them out, 580 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 7: calling them out and saying, like, you know, you cheated 581 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 7: the people who were you know, doing this right? So 582 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 7: can you tell me what. 583 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: The reaction was to cover it up? Initially, you know, 584 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: And so then it became a situation of. 585 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: Like they wanted to give you Laker tickets. 586 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 6: They came up within the explanation why what they did 587 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 6: was was proper interesting and they called it normalization. They 588 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: had an exploit explan explanization explanation called normalization, and they said, 589 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 6: what we did was we let people in early, but 590 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: we normalized their times and so so yeah, and then 591 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 6: the mayor of the city called for an audit of 592 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 6: the process. And then the auditors frankly, uh were part 593 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: of the cover up and and made excuses for uh 594 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 6: this this process. So so then I really had to 595 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 6: disprove the normalization process. And so I then went back 596 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: to the data of their time stance versus my videos, 597 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 6: and it's I'm not going to try to explain it 598 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: here because it was a very clever explanation, and I 599 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 6: had to think long and hard, and I really think 600 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: God really just gave me the answers after a certain point, uh, 601 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 6: And I discovered, you know, their their normalization scheme and 602 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 6: how to disprove the accuracy of it, and that was 603 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: really instrumental in helping win the laws. 604 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 7: So upon upon then you know, the whole thing getting 605 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 7: ruled in your favor. Was there an acknowledgment after the 606 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 7: fact of them saying absolutely yes? 607 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: I would say after the lawsuits, the city was embarrassed nationally, 608 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 6: you know, and since then have made tremendous efforts to 609 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: reform the process and stand up a legitimate program. And 610 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 6: so after the lawsuit and the settlement, we continue lobbying 611 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 6: for a lot of changes to the to the laws, 612 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 6: and we've gotten a lot of things changed, like like 613 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 6: social equity ownership laws in particular. Initially when the program 614 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: was created, the laws that protected protected our equity ownership 615 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 6: was like two sentences, and we've had that reform to 616 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 6: where it's a page and a half long of all 617 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 6: the rules that protect our equity and ownership and control 618 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 6: of our businesses right. And so that took you know, 619 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: several months of lobbying and working with the city, but 620 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 6: you know that and a number of other changes and 621 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 6: reforms have come to the program since we won that lawsuits. 622 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: So I would say it's been positive since then. 623 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: Were they on your helmet though, like when you're building 624 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 5: out and are they checking you? I mean, granted, you 625 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 5: have to do it all right anyways, because you're building 626 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: a business, but it's a cannabis business, so you have 627 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 5: to go far and above. 628 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 6: Yes, were they like, you know, it's such a big 629 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 6: city with so many different departments, and unfortunately the cannabis 630 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 6: department hasn't been supported by all the other departments in 631 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 6: the city in the ways that you would think. 632 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not even feeling it. They're not even sure 633 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: if it's going to stay. They're like, yeah, whatever, you know, yeah, 634 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: you can see. So building in safety was a huge challenge. 635 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 6: You know, I really had to ask for help from 636 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 6: the city and getting through that process, and they did, 637 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 6: you know, step up and provide some assistance in that process. 638 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: You know. 639 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: Sping said that social equity, you know, has to be 640 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: retained again fifty one percent to the social applicant that 641 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: ends up winning. How are they doing? I mean knowing 642 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: that there's you know, people out there that do have 643 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: criminal records quote unquote you know, because the thing is is, 644 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you're very intelligent. I could tell you study, 645 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: you worked hard, you deserve to get what you got. 646 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: Are the rest of the applicants doing the same? Are 647 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: some of them falling apart? What are your thoughts? What 648 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: are you seeing out there in La? 649 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 650 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 6: You know, it's frankly has been a mixed back because 651 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 6: early on when social Equity started, the environment was very 652 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: like we were all pit against each other. 653 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: Essentially, it was a lot of reed going on. 654 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 6: It was a lot of outside interest trying to use 655 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: qualified equity equity people as straw men for their own 656 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: business to agree and so value out and yeah. 657 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: And you're puppet. 658 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: Basically, hey, yeah, that's capitalize on what happened to you 659 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: and let me buy in. 660 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 6: And some people looked at it like, oh, I got 661 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 6: I got these big people back in me. 662 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: I don't need to work with you guys in the community. 663 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: I'm with this big group over here, this big group, 664 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: And it created a lot of division, and it warped 665 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: the whole purpose of social equity. And that was also 666 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 6: a reason I started the Social Equity Owners and Workers Association, 667 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 6: was to create an organization where applicants could go to 668 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 6: work together and figure out what our interests are, you know, 669 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 6: without other big corporations, you know, trying to tell us. 670 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: What are without just a bunch of money come and talking. 671 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Because money isn't always the answer. And I think a 672 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: lot of people get stuck on that, you know. 673 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: They think it's the only solution. 674 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: It's hard work, you know. 675 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: You yeah, you couldn't be here clearly without working your 676 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: butt off. And and I know that because you know, 677 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: I've been involved in LA dispensaries. 678 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: I said, I was there in all the meetings, you know, when. 679 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: Donnie rest in Peace was out there using butt off, 680 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: trying to make sure that that the social equity got 681 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: their their their their rights heard. And you know I've 682 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: spoken those meetings, you know, prior to all these dispensaries. 683 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: And I remember going to l A and I I 684 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: remember the first thing one time, the guy's like, I 685 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: didn't even get a word. 686 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: He's like, so, where are you from the city Council? 687 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I live in Orange County, but not 688 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 2: realizing that I'm from LA, you know, and he was like, well, 689 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what you're saying. And I'm like, whoa 690 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: hold up, you know, like it does matter what I say. 691 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: I got a voice here in Los Angeles. It's probably 692 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: bigger than yours, sir, you know, respectfully, you know, we're 693 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: having these conversations and and I remember in the beginning 694 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: everybody was just like slammed hammer, slam the hammer. And 695 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: then it was like, okay, loosen up. And then it 696 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: was like, hey, it's flooding in. There's people showing up. 697 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 2: I mean, we started to get together with I mean, 698 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: there was the h Latinos for cannabis. There was the 699 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, the Donnie's team, you know, there, there was 700 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: just so many different people coming in and it started growing. 701 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you started getting you know, 702 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: uh some of the uh you know, real like attorneys 703 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: getting involved in health organizations getting involved, and they started 704 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: getting real serious for them, you know. And I remember 705 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: watching that process and then I remember hearing, you know, 706 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: straight quite frankly, the fucker that went down on the 707 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: and we had to think about it. Do we want 708 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: to push this, you know, because it's like putting a 709 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: target on us too, and we're like, we got to 710 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: put it out, and you know, we we decided to 711 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: put that out when we got because we got a tape. 712 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: Someone sent us a tape and said, look it was 713 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: a dude in her his girl wife girl wife. Yes, 714 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: and they were like, look, we've got them on video. 715 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and we've got that, We've got the video 716 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: on tape. 717 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: And I'm like, no way, yes, Brandon, yes, Brandon. 718 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they came to us like, you guys are 719 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: the ones that got to break it for us to 720 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: the Green Paradise. 721 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: They have a dispensary. Now. We love to see them again. 722 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: They got their life. 723 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 4: Please connect us with them if you've got a contact 724 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: with them. 725 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd love to have them. 726 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: I would love to have them on that. I mean, 727 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: they help revolutionize that whole scenario. 728 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they went out on a limb going, oh, 729 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 5: we're gonna get caught or whatever. 730 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 4: It's on us, let's go. 731 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. It takes a lot of courage and. 732 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 6: Were you able to use that in court that Unfortunately 733 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 6: we didn't get to the point where we needed to use. 734 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 3: That because they settled. That's right. 735 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, let me ask you, how does somebody get involved 736 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: in their Social Equity Owners and Workers Association. 737 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 6: So I'm no longer a member of the Social Equity 738 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 6: Owners and Workers a. 739 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: Social like I got my shop later, guys, I've since. 740 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 6: I've since started another organization, the Cannabis Equity Policy COUNTS, 741 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 6: and we lobby in LA as well as Sacramento. We 742 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 6: have membership organizations. The Social Equity Owners and Workers Association 743 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 6: is one of our member organizations, as well as LB 744 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 6: tripleC and Long Beach, Uca and Sacramento. We've got several 745 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 6: organizations across the state and we've got individual members that 746 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: are social equity entrepreneurs that represent CEPC and we've been 747 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 6: able to do some remarkable things through that as well. 748 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 6: You know, last year we were instrumental in passing a 749 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 6: tax break at the state level, so social thank you, 750 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 6: thank you. So now Social equity dispensaries get a twenty 751 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 6: percent tax break on their state excise tax, which, if 752 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 6: you know anything about cannabis and the taxes, it's really oppressive. 753 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 3: The taxes on cannabis sales. 754 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 6: Sure for the profitability of our businesses, for the consumer. 755 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 6: It's a drag, you know, and so through this organization 756 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 6: we're instrumental in. 757 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: Lowering that tax rate for equity dispensaries. 758 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 5: That's great, man. We'll keep doing the Lord's work over there. 759 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 5: We like to do the high five that everybody that 760 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 5: comes into the show. Before we get to that, I 761 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 5: want to thank everybody around here that makes the show happen. 762 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 5: From a mirror to Adrian, alex Ci, Alex ay Mondo, Madison, Elbert, 763 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 5: Teddy the show Dog, Daniel O'Connor, ve Kinky Camp, Baxter Beach, Barcelar, 764 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 5: Ali Muffins, Sunday, Cassie Ruviy with the beautiful Rouvie Goldie 765 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 5: Brother Pitt's, Mark Carnes, Chris, Frank Keno, Jennifer, Erica and Elvis. 766 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 5: Thank you guys all for doing what you guys do 767 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 5: for us today. The CEO of Dedre is in the building. 768 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 5: You guys, it's so good to have you. Madison Dret Cadre. 769 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 5: Excuse me, I don't know what the hell was reason 770 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 5: he said. 771 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: Padre, Yeah, San Diego, Padres, Madison, JACKI. 772 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 5: The third is time to do the high five. Five 773 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 5: simple questions. I'd love to hear your answers. How old 774 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 5: are you the first time you smoked cannabis and where 775 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 5: did you get it from? 776 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 6: I was fourteen and I got it from my cousin. 777 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 6: I think it was around Christmas. And you know, all 778 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: the cousins got together around Christmas, and my older cousins 779 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 6: were smoking weed at that time and I was coming 780 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 6: of age and they shared it with me. 781 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 4: Nice. 782 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: Question number two, What is your favorite way to use 783 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 3: or smoke cannabis? I smoked joints. Yeah, for many years 784 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: I smoked Swiss or sweets. 785 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I know those, well, old school guy, I like that. 786 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 6: Now I changed to the paper planes. I like cones. 787 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 6: I just packed my cones and smoked joints. 788 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 3: Nice. 789 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 4: Nice and easy. 790 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 5: Question number three of the high five craziest place you 791 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 5: ever used or smoked cannabis. 792 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 6: Our previous headquarters, Cadre was blessed to have really awesome 793 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 6: headquarters in Hollywood on sunset and we had the highest 794 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 6: balcony in Hollywood, and we had several events over. 795 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 3: The past year, literally the highest unforgettable. 796 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just that experience looking over the city and 797 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 6: Hollywood signs right there in front of us, and all 798 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 6: all the people and friends that came through to our events. 799 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: Nice, thanks for the invite. Never went to that high spot, 800 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 4: but whatever. 801 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 3: Cool. 802 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: Question number four of the five, what is your go 803 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 2: to munchie after you get high Cheetos you lick your fingers. 804 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: The girl in the last one said hot Cheetos too, 805 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 2: She said hot Cheetos and the Grand regular Cheetos. They're 806 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: going to discontinue those and they're going to change the 807 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: red on it because I guess the. 808 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: Dye that's good. It'll probably be good for my health. Yeah, yeah, the. 809 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 5: Change, if they're going to change, that's right. Red dyes 810 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 5: have to be bad in California. 811 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 2: They said, They said that the dye has too much 812 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: something bad in it and that. 813 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 4: My son's allergic to red dye. 814 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 5: Yeah literally, well yeah, he doesn't eat those, but yeah, 815 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: it's just crazy to think there's a lot of people 816 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 5: that are allergic to the red die conor put it 817 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 5: on yourself there. 818 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 7: But uh, carcinogenic I believe great. Yeah, yeah, like yellow 819 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 7: and red dye. I believe is getting the acts in 820 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 7: like twenty twenty seven. 821 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 822 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 7: It's taking him so long to get that past. 823 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 4: So long to figure that out. 824 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what man. I was in Costco the 825 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: other day. 826 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: They were trying to hand me some Cheetos, some hot cheets, 827 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: flaming hot cheetos right there in the thing, And I 828 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: was like, I just seen an article on the dude 829 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: saying these they're bad. Bro, you guys are doing this 830 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: to us right now. They're like, you guys were free 831 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: hot cheetos. I was like, what, dude, Like, you guys 832 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: are giving them? 833 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 4: What's so funny? 834 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 5: I got to give a shout out to my son's 835 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: teacher who randomly said, because we noticed my son would 836 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 5: break out after he was eating things, and the lady goes, 837 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 5: it might be the red Cheetos in the mixed bag 838 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 5: of cheetos. 839 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm never eating hot chet no. 840 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 4: Cheese. Its excuse me, I mean to cheese. 841 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 5: Its right, Because she was like a lot of kids 842 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 5: I've noticed in my time teaching had been of their children. 843 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 4: We weren't hip on the red die like at all. 844 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 5: My son's teacher was like, I've had a lot of 845 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 5: students that were allergic to red dye. Then we took 846 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 5: my son in and found out it was the fucking 847 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 5: red die. 848 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: Some cheese its to thee My favorite too. 849 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, you get the mix. That's what 850 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: it was where. 851 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: They get you hooked on these chips. 852 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was elementary school when I got started eating 853 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 6: hot cheeto man. 854 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's just funny. They didn't have hot Cheetos 855 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 5: when I was in school. But you know what I mean, 856 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 5: I would have done it, old man stories. Question number 857 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 5: five of the High five, Madison, It's great to have 858 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 5: you here, great to meet you, great to hear your story. Dog, 859 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 5: You're great, dude. Man, I don't care what Connor was 860 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: saying about you. I think you're solid, you know what 861 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 5: I mean. Question number five of the High five. 862 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 4: If you can smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, 863 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 4: who would it be and why? 864 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: Jimmy Henschritt. Oh like that? 865 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: Huh? 866 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: I played guitar as a as a hobby. 867 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 6: I was having his creativity and uh, just like he's 868 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 6: such an icon. I would love to smoke with him 869 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 6: and talk with him about his creative. 870 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 4: Headband the head flip with them. 871 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: You heard the headband flips. 872 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: Let's go put them in there and let's really rock out. 873 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: Listen, boy, is there anything else before we let you 874 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: get down out here? That you want to say about 875 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: the brand, the company, the product lines, anything. 876 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 877 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 6: So we're available in seven stores around LA right now, 878 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 6: we're actually getting ready to launch and all the off 879 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 6: the charts around the state. I would just say, go 880 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 6: buy the product and support us by cannabis that empowers you, 881 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 6: and that's what Cadre does and is about. 882 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: So let's build this social equity supply chain. 883 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 6: The stores that we initially launched them all social equity stores. 884 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 3: Our manufacturer for our product is black owned Social Acuity 885 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: Business Nice. 886 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 6: So from seed to sale, the entire supply chain, it's 887 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 6: Social Actuity. 888 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 3: That's how we launched the product. So I'm really proud 889 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 3: of that. 890 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm proud of that too. That's dope. 891 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really jpe Man. 892 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 4: Good stuff. 893 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: That's important. And visit our website, the Cadre dot com and. 894 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 4: Go get some merchs. It's cool. Be a bare yeah man. 895 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 4: Were it is? 896 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: Guys is Cannabis Talk one on one and remember this 897 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: if no one else loves you. 898 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: We do follow Cannabis Talk one on one on all 899 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: social media and Cannabis Talk one oh one. 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