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Go to vicetv dot 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: com to find your cable channel. 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: The volume. 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: Hi, Rory, we are back for another episode of Don't 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: Know Ball? Yes you know show that we have now 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: to talk to some people that know a lot about ball. 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: And today it's a special day because this is our 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: first first this is our first. 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: Number one overall. 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah selection in his draft, that is true. So with 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: the first pick in the two thousand and four NBA draft, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: Rory Orlando Magic selected somebody out of high school who 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: had a lot of promise, a lot of upside. I 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: think ended his career being probably one of the most 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: underrated big men that I've ever seen play the game. 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: Definitely revolutionized the position one the most athletic, one of 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: the most athletic big men we've ever seen in the NBA, 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: and I probably have more respect for him today now 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: I got a chance to stand next to him. 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: He's not as told as I thought he was, So now. 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: I got even more respectful him because it's niggas on 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: the perimeter that's toller than him, and they did they 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: couldn't do what he did. 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: So we are joined today by Dwight. How with Dwight? 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: How you feeling that? Listen man, so he will. 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: When he got off the elevator, he was like, nah, 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: he's kind of small. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: You know what it is when you no, no, no, 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: definitely not saying that, but you know what it is, Dwight. 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: When you and I stand next to, you know, and 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: hanging out with KD, and I'm stand next to KD, 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: it's like, damn, I would think that Dwight is much 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: taller and Kevin. 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: Durant, Yeah, KDS seven feet. 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, But that's what I'm saying a lot of people 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: don't know that, right, But on the court, because of aesthetically, 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: you just look like. 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: Look like I was a set It's crazy. 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 6: When I played for the Lakers and Antoine Jamison was 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 6: one of my teammates, and I was standing next to Palgasaw. 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: He was like, bro, you really ain't seven feet. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you like six eight for real, That's what I'm saying. 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 6: Said what you mean? He said, because pal seven to 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: one and he killing you right now. I was like, bro, 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 6: it's just when I get on the court, I look talk. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 6: I'm always jumping touching the Yeah, but it's crazy, like, yeah, 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 6: I was one of the shortest centers to play. 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: I mean one of the shortest. Me saying that is crazy. 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: But the way you played the position though, Dwight, Now 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: we know me particularly speaking, I saw you in high school. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: I obviously knew the talent was there. Everybody knew you 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: would be the number one overall pick. But that position, 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: and I think that time, the center position was kind 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: of in a different kind of space. Yeah, we didn't 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: have the you know, the big dominant shacks was on 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: the way out, you know what I'm saying. That was 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: kind of the ladder part of the career. So the 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: big bulky you came in and the way you were running, 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't notice, but Shaq kind of 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: played that way in his rookie years. In his early 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: years in Orlando, he could run, excuse me, run the 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: floor a lot better than people thought. But what you 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: did at the position was like, no, he's like freakishly 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: athletic at the center position. 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: It's crazy because when I got to the team, I 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 6: wanted to get out on the perimeter, so I would 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: always be trying to bring the ball up to the court 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: in practice and coach would stop me from dribbling the ball. 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 6: He would tell Steve Francis or one of the guards, no, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 6: we don't want you dribbling the basketball. And I'm like, 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: what you want me to do? They just said, Dwight, 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: we want you to bring down the house. So I'm like, 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 6: what does that mean? Yeah, dunk everything. And so I 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 6: was playing the four man when I got on the 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 6: Magic and back then it wasn't no stretch of fours 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: or five, so it was always interchangeable. 84 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: They saw how fast. 85 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 6: I could get up and down the floor and how 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 6: high I could jump, so they say, you know what, 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 6: Let's put you at the center position. Let's get four shooters, 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 6: and then let's keep you in the pick and roll 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: because you're gonna be faster than all the centers. It 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 6: might be taller than you, but you can make up 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 6: for that with your arms and jumping and stuff like that. 92 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 6: So now we want you to put pressure on the rim. 93 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: So every time, run as hard as you can seal 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 6: to the basket. If you don't have it comes to 95 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 6: the pick a roll, we're gonna get you on the lob, 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 6: get you on the deep post stuff. So it was 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 6: like easy money for me. 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: No what you came in and it almost seemed like 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: right away you adjusted to the NBA game. Was that 100 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: due to you think you always just being a fan 101 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: of the game, watching the game closely, or did you 102 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: come in knowing that I'm going to have to make 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: some adjustments to my game And how fast did you 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: pick up that adjustment? Because I don't looking back, I 105 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: don't think you really came out the gates like slow. 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: You had like a it was just this period I did, 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: but you had success early as well. 108 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: I think it was how I prepared to come into 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: the NBA. So I woke up every morning at four 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 6: o'clock and I went to the track train every day. 111 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: This is in high school. 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 6: Every day I was doing this, waking up at four o'clock, 113 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 6: going to the track then I would go to the 114 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 6: court and lift or try to lift as much waste 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 6: as I could, and then go to the court obviously 116 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 6: and workout. I did this religiously. That became my routine. 117 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 6: So I wanted to prepare myself for the traveling, for 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 6: the getting up early, having to get on the plane, 119 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 6: ride and wake up and having to lift and do 120 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 6: all that stuff, and also to maintain my body, you know. 121 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: I had to train for that. Yeah, because I knew. 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: Once I got to the NBA, it's going to be 123 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 6: tons of things that could distract me. So I said, 124 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 6: I need to work on being disciplined. So my first 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 6: year and it was going to be adjustment period. Kevin 126 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 6: Willis was the one who woke me up. I tried 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: to box him out one day. Chicken Wayne. Yeah, he 128 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 6: pulled my arm down and. 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: It was stuck and moved and I was like, yo, 130 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: let go. And Kevin Willis was an older guy, yeah, 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: super duper vet. Twenty year in the league. 132 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: Chicken Wayne my arm and he held it down, and 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 6: I said after that, I will not let nobody ever 134 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: push it around in this league. I went that summer 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 6: in eight weights, but my first year was an adjustment 136 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 6: period because now I'm playing against stronger, older, and wiser men. 137 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 6: AAU was a different type of game that we came from. 138 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 6: High school was different, but now we're playing against all 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 6: these savvy vets. It was more vets in the league 140 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: back then. So you know, with me coming in number 141 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 6: one pick, you know, everybody got all these high expectations, every. 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: Big man trying me. 143 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 6: So now it's like, I gotta come back with a plan, 144 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: and a plan was to get bigger, stronger and faster 145 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 6: and it worked out. 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: What was the media side like that, because I mean 147 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 5: even you know, high school, when did they cut that off? 148 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Next year? 149 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 7: The next year, yes, I thought. So it was a 150 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 7: controversial time. 151 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: And outside of being the number one pick, being a 152 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: high school player as well, how'd you deal with the 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: media shit? 154 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 7: Outside of dealing with grown ass men in the paint? 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 6: Man, I didn't know what I was dealing with. I 156 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: didn't know what was going on because it's like all 157 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 6: I knew was basketball and god, you know, I went 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 6: to a church school, so every day I'm waking up 159 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: do what I'm doing with basketball? Now we're mixing it 160 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 6: with school and church, and this is everything. 161 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: That I knew. 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 6: Now I go from this small school to the big world. 163 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 6: Now in the face of a franchise. Now they're asking 164 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: me to make sure to you know, understand money and things. 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 6: I didn't know noneing about this. So it was a 166 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: big adjustment period for me. And I was very thankful 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 6: that now I had to go through so many trials 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 6: because it really made me better off the court, made 169 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 6: me better on the court, and the media. 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: Man, we didn't know how to deal with it coming in. 171 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 6: I didn't have to deal with any negativity like that 172 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 6: until that moment, you know, coming into the NBA. So 173 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 6: it's like, how do I deal with you know, everybody 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: always in my business, you want to know everything about 175 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 6: my life, the negative side that come with being famous 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 6: and all these different things. Now it's coming into play, 177 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 6: and it's not as easy to deal with if you 178 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 6: don't have a strong faith or a strong front. 179 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 7: Who pissed you off the most? 180 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 5: In the media at that time, I mean, it wasn't 181 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: like the First Take era where it's like every show 182 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 5: is opinionated funding shit, but people still you know, yeah, 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: still opinions going on in sports media. 184 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 8: Back then. 185 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: It was probably like the Skip baylesss like I would say, 186 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 6: if I'm in a room with Skip, I'm a slap them. 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 6: That's how I was thinking back then. Yeah, he always 188 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 6: got something to say because people like that, I believe 189 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: back in the day it started what we call with 190 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 6: everybody having an opinion. Yeah, staff, somebody who's never did this, like, 191 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 6: I can understand you. 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: Respect it more coming from God because I like what 193 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: the NBA is doing now, and you've done a great 194 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: job with it as well. I think I caught one 195 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: of the Magic games and you was court side talking 196 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: and I was like, well, Dwight, You've always been well spoken, 197 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: but it just seems more natural to have guys that 198 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: played the game talk about how they talk about the 199 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: game because y'all always see it from an angle. We 200 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: obviously will never see it from an understanding differently. But 201 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: is that something that you had to learn later on, Like, Okay, 202 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: these guys, they're just speaking about it, so I can't 203 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: get so emotionally upset and you know, and take it 204 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: too seriously because they don't. 205 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: They just doing their job. 206 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: It's hard not to because people on the outside teams 207 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 6: are also hearing this stuff too, so now it could 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 6: put them in a position like, is this true? 209 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Is it not true? Is this person or. 210 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 6: Player like months, Yeah, that's how we're taking it because 211 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 6: it's like, Yo, I'm really out here grinding every single day, 212 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 6: and now you're telling people I'm gonna castle in the 213 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 6: locker room. 214 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm lazy. 215 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 6: Y'all don't want hard, Like you can't do that. That's 216 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 6: not fair because my resume is showing otherwise. But now 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: you're trying to tarnish that by saying this. So it's 218 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 6: really not cool. So it's great for everyone to have opinions. 219 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 6: I think we need to hear both sides of it 220 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 6: from a player that has played and somebody who's just 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: observing the game, because maybe they could see something a 222 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 6: little bit different, so I can understand that. But to 223 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 6: have the actual players who played in that era, I 224 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 6: think they should be the ones that are talking. So 225 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 6: like now the guys who played with me are against 226 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 6: me and stuff like that. I feel like they would 227 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 6: be great commentators for games. The older guys they haven't 228 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 6: been out there, they haven't been a part of this 229 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 6: new generation's game, so I feel like maybe their opinions 230 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 6: could be biased based off when they played and. 231 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: How they played. 232 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: So now you have the career that you have obviously 233 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: eight times with All Star, NBA Champion, all of these things. 234 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: The one thing that I had an issue with was 235 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: you being left off the top seventy five. And You've 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: always had his personality where you're smiling, you know, things 237 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: never seem to really upset you. I don't think i've 238 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: ever seen you do any or say anything too crazy. 239 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: But personally, how did you take that? Like when you 240 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: got the news that you didn't make the top set, Like, 241 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: we're not talking about cameras and media, I'm talking about 242 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Dwight Howard at home. 243 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: Was pissed off. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was like, man, 244 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 6: there's no way I put in this much work personally 245 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: and for the league. Yeah, to be left off and 246 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: I know. 247 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: Okay, that's the issue I had with it. 248 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: I'm like some of these guys, I get it you 249 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: he was good, but I remember what this kid was 250 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: doing in Orlando and it's totally different. 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 6: So I was very pissed off, and I was like, man, 252 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 6: this is not right because it got to be a 253 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: bigger play. It gotta be something else, because I know 254 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: for a fact some of these guys don't. 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: Have my resume and they're on it. That's a fact. 256 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 6: But as it got closer to when they I think 257 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: ESPN was doing a little coverage at the time when 258 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 6: they were saying, it's like ten players left. When it 259 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 6: got down to ten, I said, you know what, they 260 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 6: ain't gonna put me on it. But I could already 261 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 6: sense it. But why because if I wasn't already on 262 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: it by the time it got the ten players left, 263 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 6: Come on, Okay, I can't say it's sixty five players 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: better than me that doesn't play. 265 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be off for me to name sixty five. 266 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 6: So for that to happen, or seventy six sixty players, 267 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 6: sixty five players left, whatever, for that to happen, I'm like, yo, 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna make it. So watch it on TV. 269 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: Like you'd obviously know about NBA politics better than most 270 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: for the length of a career you had. 271 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 7: Do you think there's a reason why you were left off? 272 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 5: Was it politics as usual? Is there a specific person 273 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 5: or entity. 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: That Man, that's a tough one. Man, I don't want 275 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 6: to put nobody out there like that. 276 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 8: I don't know. 277 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: It gotta be, yeah, it gotta be like. 278 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: It's just that the numbers don't add up, and it 279 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 6: doesn't matter, Like it's the thing that people are saying, well, 280 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 6: he did this off the court. He did it has 281 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 6: nothing to do with what happened when I stepped between 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 6: them line. Yeah, you can't take that away from nothing 283 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 6: by rumors, stories, whatever people are saying. 284 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: It has nothing talk about the real story. 285 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 6: Let's put it put in the film and my stats 286 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 6: and accolades to show if I was really taking the 287 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 6: game serious or not. You can't go by skip of 288 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: people saying he was just playing the game. He wasn't 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 6: playing for real, Like what the numbers and stuff don't 290 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 6: show that. 291 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll ask for this list thing because this 292 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 5: just happens with podcasting. We go through every fucking complex 293 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: music list, every rapper list, and we just had the 294 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: was it la rappers Accomplix just put out and we 295 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: were debating like, all right, yeah, there's legends on this list, 296 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: but they're from an era that like you're only on 297 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: there because you were in the beginning, Like you start, 298 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: You're not better than this other rapper. You just have 299 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: a legend status because you were there in the beginning. 300 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: Do you think that also lends itself to basketball like yeah, like, yeah, 301 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 5: he wouldn't have in my era, you would have got cooked. 302 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: Like you shouldn't even be on this top seventy five. 303 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: It was somebody on there. What was his. 304 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: Name's white and his name was Bob Coosey. 305 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: That's his name. 306 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 6: I play with him on two K well Live when 307 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: I was in high school. Was better than him. No way, 308 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 6: his name Dolph. I'm sorry, and I love young Dolf. 309 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: I'm not talking, but his name, bro, there's no way 310 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 6: top eighty yeah, out of here. 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: No, I listen, there's more names than that on that 312 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: top seventy five where I was just. 313 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I just don't. 314 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: I don't see it, like not because again Orlando Magic, 315 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: Dwight Howard, Like I went to games. 316 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: I went to games with the guard. I went to 317 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: games and nets games. 318 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: Like when those teams came into the city, there was 319 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: like a oh, like how do we stop him? 320 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: It was Jammy you know those other guys. 321 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: But it was like what y'all gonna do about him 322 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: and the paint though, So when you have that feeling 323 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: in the arena for a part of your career, there's 324 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: no way you can say, yo, there's seventy five players that. 325 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: Had that feeling. 326 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: I know it's not I just know it because I man, 327 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 6: and it pissed me off. I remember seeing Sam Mitchell 328 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 6: in the airport in Atlanta and he was like, man, 329 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 6: I just want to tell you, man, that top sety 330 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 6: five shit still got to be. 331 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: Mad he's saying it. I was like, man, yeah, Van Gunner, 332 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: your coach. He had some things to say about like 333 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: a few people spoke. I was like, nah, they got 334 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: that one wrong, like not. 335 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: But they who are these people that actually voted? 336 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: And how did they get the right to vote for 337 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: the You've never had that conversation with anybody. 338 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying, we have talked. 339 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 6: They showed the list, but it's like, how are these 340 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 6: people the ones who have the criteria to vote for 341 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 6: these seventy five people? 342 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: What makes it? I think one of the people was 343 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: a player he's playing now. How could he. 344 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 6: Have the right to vote for who should be top 345 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: seventy five now and he's still playing? It should be 346 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 6: players that I would say maybe wasn't superstars or all 347 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: stars in the league, but played in all the who 348 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 6: played in certain eras that can say, okay, now this 349 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: guy I played against him, he was cold. Now, you know, 350 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: like the ninth eighth man on the bench, who was 351 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 6: all these guys that have played or witnessed the game. 352 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 6: No disrespecting nobody, but like they're the ones that should 353 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 6: be saying, man, that was a cold dude that play 354 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 6: he topped. 355 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 356 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 7: They knew how tough it was to go against that person. 357 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 5: And it's funny Peg and Maul we're having a conversation 358 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 5: off Mike before you came here that I thought it 359 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: was very interesting of we're getting to the era of 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 5: young kids that did not see Jordan whatsoever. So now 361 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: it's going to be the way I view Wilt Chamberlain, 362 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: Like I've heard about it, but I don't fucking know. 363 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, and that's my favorite player, so Dann well, yeah, okay. 364 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 5: But we're just getting that now, how could they vote 365 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: on the top seventy five players. Ever, let's say like 366 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 5: they didn't actually watch them, they didn't play against them. 367 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 7: How do you even vote for that? 368 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: Because the name it's like for this, a lot of 369 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 6: kids never seen Shaq play, but they're going to say 370 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 6: he's the most dominant center. 371 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 7: Which is true. 372 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: But also that goes with branding and Shaq continuing to 373 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: be in the space as well. 374 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 7: Like his name is continue on. 375 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: But and y'all got YouTube though YouTube Shack, And then 376 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: you tell me if I'm lying about what I'm saying. 377 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 5: I really don't want Shack on that side. But I'm 378 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 5: saying it's different too. Like I was young, I caught 379 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 5: the very tail end of Jordan. It doesn't resonate the 380 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: same way as Kobe with me. I watched hated Kobe 381 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: rest in peace as I just hated him because I 382 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 5: watched him kill every team I loved. Like I know 383 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: about it, Jordan. Yeah, I could watch the highlights and 384 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: be like, oh my god, that guy's in saying it's 385 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: not a feeling of watching Kobe crush I like crushed us. 386 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 4: I sat down in front of the TV plenty of 387 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: Sundays and watched Mike. 388 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, but we have a ten year difference. 389 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: You like nothing nothing like it, the a the greatest ever. 390 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't Dwight, don't even look at that. Who your 391 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: number one? 392 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: Old time? 393 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 6: Michael Jordans, don't say that the goat gotta be Kareem. 394 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: Okay, but you and I know why you're saying that. 395 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: You're talking about just as far as basketball career, high school, 396 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: college over the NBA to go. 397 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: I get, and I'm not strict. I'm not mad at that. 398 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at that. 399 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: But Michael Jordan, what he did, what he came in 400 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: his eighty four season to this day, and now y'all 401 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: are supposed to be more athletic, y'all supposed to have 402 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: more moves, y'all supposed to all these opportunities to score 403 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: and do all these things, and nobody can still. 404 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Get close because it's harder than eighty four. 405 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: You know, it's harder to score now. 406 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 6: If guys are more athletic, they're stronger, they jump higher, 407 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 6: they're faster on offense. What about the guys on defense, 408 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 6: it's the same thing. 409 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think that. 410 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: Again, in this why we had to show, I don't 411 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: think that NBA players now put as much emphasis on 412 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: the defensive end as they did when you were playing. 413 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: That's true because it was so let alone. 414 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: Like Iverson's one example, do you think Iverson would have 415 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: an easier time scoring right now or the era he 416 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: played in? 417 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 7: I would say the era he played in. 418 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: No, right now he would have a way more Time's 419 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: tom scoring. 420 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. What easier for iverson the score 421 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 7: right now? 422 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 8: Well? 423 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's I said. 424 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 7: This is one example. 425 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 4: This is that's what we're talking about. 426 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: If you were to drop Michael Jordan and this, like 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: I always say this, no, but listen, this. 428 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: Is this is what I say. I say that. 429 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: If Steph Curry had the ego of Michael Jordan, just 430 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: the ego Steph Curry's game with Michael Jordan's ego, they 431 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: would they would drug test Steph Curry every game. 432 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: But what which what kind of ego? What do you mean? 433 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: Because I say that because Steph is such a passive guy, 434 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: he doesn't care to be His talent brings that to him, 435 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: but like he doesn't push that ego on to other players, 436 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: Like he doesn't get that other players and dominating the 437 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: way that Mike did. Like Mike would create an issue 438 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: with a player. 439 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: Just to be like I don't like he looked at me. 440 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 6: That's the eraror that we played in. I mean, that's 441 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 6: the ara that by Michael Jordan. Like they had to 442 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 6: find an issue. Remember it was no friends back then. 443 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 6: People like they hated each other, but they used to 444 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 6: get mad at us for hanging out with each other, like, 445 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: why you angle him, that's the enemy. It's like, no, 446 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 6: we're just hooping against each other. We're supposed to be cool. Yeah, 447 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 6: I think that that was just the era. Because oh 448 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: I was looking at some stats. They said that Michael 449 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 6: Jordan's they said he had a forty eight inch vert. 450 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 6: That's ridiculous. You don't believe it, that's hard to believe. 451 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: But why you don't believe that, because. 452 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 6: I mean, he would be touching the top of the 453 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 6: whole backwards easy forty eight. 454 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: He did the measurements at the dunk contest. We watched 455 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: who you Me? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Michael 456 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: Jordan's I know what I'm saying. You know the exact measurements. 457 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: At the top of the back. 458 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's we know it's exaggerated, a forty 459 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: in and we know it's exaggerated. But if you go 460 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: back and look at tapes of Michael coming out of 461 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: North Carolina, just look physically the way he looked against 462 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: everybody else. 463 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 6: Because everybody else didn't have it, But now everybody else 464 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 6: got all those same things. 465 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: That's why I'm. 466 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: Still don't look like that because it don't because back 467 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: then it was a whole different game. 468 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: Like now I'm trying to learn how. 469 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 6: To do the moves that the youngest is doing, like 470 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 6: the whole euro steps, all these different moves, like the 471 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 6: going side step and coming back and catching his shooting 472 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: and then take another side step. 473 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 7: The learning how to travel travel. 474 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: Okay, but that's just the new age basketball. It's AI. 475 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 9: This is AI basketball, That's what I'm saying, y'all gotta get. 476 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: I'm watching Haler burtont step. He picked up his dribble 477 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: in the paint. He's at the three, like, and it's 478 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: no whinsle. 479 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, but. 480 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 6: That's how it is now, Like everything is. It's an 481 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 6: upgraded system, like the way the players were back then. 482 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 6: If they would have had the same type of train 483 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 6: and the same type of facilities, they would have been 484 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 6: able to do all this stuff that's being done now. 485 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: But they was only going off what they had, which 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 6: is simpler, which made the game easier. So to us, 487 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: why Mike looks so cold because he won two dribbles 488 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 6: into everything? That's what we like, we want. Why you 489 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: gotta take all them jewels and do all that right 490 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: to it? Yeah, but that's the era that we grew 491 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 6: up in. But now we're looking at the era where 492 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 6: they taking angle Somebody take this angle away because he's 493 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 6: strong enough and he can get you to take that 494 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 6: angle away. Now you gotta find another way to get 495 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 6: to another angle. So it's just it's a different ball game. 496 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: Where's Mike at on your all time list? Because I 497 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: gotta be two or three. I just have Fareem at 498 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: one because. 499 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: I respect that if you would have had him going 500 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: five out of my God, Dwight, we can't, No, you can't. 501 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: But Kareem is just like, I'm not mad at that. 502 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm never mad at nobody has Karemabard number one points. 503 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 6: He got that total thirty nine points, thirty eight shout 504 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 6: some craser all too. 505 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: They're saying how hard that is and only had one shot? Yeah, 506 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: I get it. 507 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: So he dominated. 508 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: He he dominated every level of basketball without a doubt. 509 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 6: I'm never arguing. And he did it with two names. Yeah, 510 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 6: he might be the coldest. There ain't no player colder them. 511 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 6: He did it, as lou Al said that Eddie with 512 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: Bruce Lee. Real ass and what's. 513 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: Up thirty eight thousand points? 514 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he was at. It's crazy. 515 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: I mean, do you think with how the league is, 516 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: it's better for the league moving forward, like with it 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 5: less physicality, people being your AAU style friends, and you 518 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: think it's better. 519 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: Well, I just think that. 520 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 6: See, the game is global and they want more scoring, 521 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 6: they want more entertainment. The world we live in, people 522 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: get so like distracted fast. They have to do do 523 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 6: things to keep it entertaining, and so I think it's 524 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 6: in a great position. 525 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: The only thing I. 526 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 6: See is it's oversaturated with talent, and that it's not 527 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: enough teams, it's not enough all star spots, it's not stuff, 528 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 6: it's not enough money to go around for all these players, 529 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 6: because they're going to continue to get better. And the 530 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 6: only thing for the players I want them to start 531 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 6: doing more is probably just playing more pickup the younger 532 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: players trying to get to the league, because. 533 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: Everybody got one workout, yeah. 534 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: One one way to play basketball. 535 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 10: Yeah. 536 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 6: Once you go once and go back to that, then 537 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 6: the game itself is going to regain the love and 538 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 6: the passion that it used to have. Just think about 539 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 6: how back in the day it's just us hooping, like 540 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 6: it just felt so good to get out there and hoop. 541 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 6: You ain't got no money involved. Now the players, now 542 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 6: they got to worry about making sure they when they 543 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 6: call them the parlayd all that. Like people get mad 544 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 6: about if somebody don't get enough rebounds. 545 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: Or score enough points. 546 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 6: That could put a lot of pressure on these young guys, 547 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So then people wasting their 548 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 6: money doing it. Say people gonna bet do what they do, They're. 549 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: Going to always do that. 550 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, But how did you feel about the whole nil, 551 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: Like do you feel like that's hurting college basketball? 552 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: Or how do you feel about the transfer portal? 553 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: Like if Dwight Howard in high school had those options 554 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: in front of him, how does that look for Dwighton going. 555 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 6: To the league only because I wasn't going to the 556 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 6: league for money. I wanted to go to the league 557 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 6: just because I wanted to be one of the greatest 558 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 6: to ever play. That was my goal, wasn't. Man, I 559 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 6: gotta get some money so I could live. I always 560 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 6: felt like God was going to provide for me if 561 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 6: I use my gifts properly. So I think the NIL 562 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 6: can be a great thing and also it could be 563 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: a bad thing depending on how people use it. You know, 564 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 6: a lot of families would want to use it to 565 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: take get them get themselves out of a situation. 566 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: But also at the same time. 567 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 6: What if you don't know what to do with this 568 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 6: money and this fame, and you're giving up your name, 569 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 6: image and likeness, like and everybody's doing that now, I 570 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 6: don't think that's that part is a great thing for 571 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 6: these young athletes to give up your name, image and likeness. 572 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: That's who you are. 573 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: And if you're doing it at a young age, you 574 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, it's like you you won't stop. 575 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 6: You have to keep feeding that beast. Oh man, I 576 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: gotta come back. My name, image of likeness is on 577 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 6: the line, and that's a lot to give up, you 578 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 579 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: So that's the only part I don't. 580 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 5: I mean, but if hypothetically, if like you know, KG 581 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 5: and Kobe didn't prove that you could be successful right 582 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: out of high school, because I mean, Bron hadn't really 583 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 5: been proven at that point. 584 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: Do you still Bron is what a year? 585 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: Yeah? 586 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: What he right after me, before me. 587 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: Prove I'm talking about at that KG and Kobe, we 588 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 5: knew you'd come out of high school and be a superstar, 589 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 5: bron Rookie the Year. 590 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 7: Great, but that was one year. Do you think you 591 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: still wouldn't have taken that time to develop in college? 592 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: College? 593 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 7: Maybe one or two years? 594 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: How Like, Okay, this is what I told my mom. 595 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: I said, people go to college to learn how to 596 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 6: make money and whatever it is that they're trying to 597 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 6: make money. 598 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: And this is what the NBA is for me. 599 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 6: I'm making money in the thing that I want to do, 600 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 6: but I'm not doing it for money. But guess what 601 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 6: if I could play this game every day and get 602 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 6: paid for it, why not do that? 603 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: You know? 604 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 6: So she said, you're right, son, this is what you 605 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: wanted to do, So you go ahead and be the 606 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: greatest that you could be. 607 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: What were some of those conversations like with J R. 608 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 5: Smith Sebastian Telfair at the McDonald's. 609 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: Just like they knew what I was gonna do. We 610 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: know what you're gonna do before you're going. 611 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 8: To the league. 612 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: You better, you better go to the league. 613 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 6: And I'm like, y'all right, Like if I got a 614 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: chance to go top if you get a chance to 615 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 6: go top three in the NBA draft, you would be a. 616 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: Food to go to college. 617 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: Knew you was going one though, Yes, But I'm just 618 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: saying for anybody in general, like if you get a 619 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: chance to go top three, if you know you can 620 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: go number one, come on now, Yeah, that'd be like 621 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: knowing that you got a box behind this door that's 622 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars and. 623 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 6: Everybody in the world know it. And you say, you 624 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 6: know what, I'm gonna go to college and go get earn. 625 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 5: You just earned it just waging with stuff. I mean, 626 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 5: even though I want no beef with Kwame Brown at all, 627 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to go back and forth on YouTube, 628 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 5: but you know that always be in the back of 629 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: my mind too. But what did he do at that point? 630 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 7: What year was the old one? 631 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: He didn't do anything wrong, Like see, I. 632 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 7: Agree it's a weird system with wizards. 633 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 6: And not even that like he made it out the 634 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 6: rat race. 635 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 636 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 6: That's how you can't take it like, man, he didn't 637 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 6: have an awesome career. He did played over ten years 638 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 6: in the NBA. The average career in the NBA is 639 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: three to four years, folks. So for somebody to go 640 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: past that, now, maybe he didn't meet everyone outside of 641 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 6: himselfs expectations because they had expectations for him, but he 642 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: met his He made it to the league. That's probably 643 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: what's what his wife was, I gotta make it to 644 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 6: the league. Everybody had their different reasons. Everybody loved ball 645 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 6: for different reasons, you know what I'm saying. So you 646 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: know I can't fault him for that. Yeah, And just 647 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 6: think about this. You coming into a league and your 648 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 6: favorite player is on your team and it's Michael Jordan, 649 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 6: and like he's Michael Jordan. You're eighteen, Like that's a 650 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 6: lot on you. And then for this person to be 651 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 6: on you so heavy you're not understanding. 652 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: That's a lot. 653 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: I never really like took a second and thought about 654 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: just that, Like you grew up looking at this figure 655 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: that is like this is like one and now he's 656 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: mad at me because I dropped the pass he just 657 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: threw to me. 658 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: And it's like, Nigga, I'm watching the greatest player ever. 659 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 4: I'm just staring at him, like Michael Jordan just passed me. 660 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: And even I was young, but I remember the media 661 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: like this is Jordan hand picked this draft pick. Even 662 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: though he's on the team, Jordan is drafting him. They 663 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: were doing specially. I feel like he went to Jordan's 664 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 5: like house in North Carolina, like they made. 665 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: That probably were so inspired, and then he probably felt 666 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 6: shitting on right after that because he was like, damn, man, 667 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 6: I fucked up with Michael Jordan. That could probably sting 668 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 6: a lot as a. 669 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: What is that pressure though, Like knowing that you're the 670 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: number one pick? Like, what is that for me? 671 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: It's like it's just a different glow you got in 672 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: the green room when everybody know you're going number one. 673 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 6: I was afraid if I was gonna go number one 674 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 6: and number two for a second, and then I remember 675 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 6: one of the guys said, hey, I actually wasn't one 676 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 6: of the players. 677 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 678 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 6: It's my agent, Aaron Goodwhen he said Dwight Sin's they 679 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: call your name, you your mama, hugging the kids, taking 680 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 6: pop's hand, you get ready to smile. 681 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: So I said, oh, that mean I'm going number one. 682 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: As soon as he said that could when the green room, 683 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 6: and I think they do the green room a little 684 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 6: different now how it goes, but man, back then it 685 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 6: was a little it was treacherous. It was like we're 686 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 6: in the garden, you know, the fans is everywhere. I 687 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 6: think before they had all of us outside. It was 688 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: a great experience, man, But being eighteen looking back on it, 689 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 6: it was a whirlwind. It happened so fast, like one 690 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 6: day I wake up, I'm in this you know, sixteen 691 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 6: student class and my senior class school is super small. 692 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 6: Next day I'm getting drafted into the NBA. All my 693 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 6: dreams come true. Like, man, this is this is sick. 694 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's talk about the two thousand and non season. 695 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: So the Lando Magic y'all beat Lebron the Calves to 696 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: go to the finals. 697 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: What was that? 698 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: You had the close out game again, so you had 699 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: a crazy game think. 700 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: Forty one in nineteen, a light double up white through 701 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: that out. They said, you know he's and he's still 702 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 3: remember forty one nineteen. That was right there at the office. 703 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: Forty and nineteen is absolutely but against that team, against 704 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: that player in that moment to go to the finals, 705 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 3: like the what do you as a player take us 706 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: in that moment where you feeling in the zone like, oh, 707 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm having one of those games. This is one of 708 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: those like what is that? How do you control that emotion? 709 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: You can't. 710 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 6: It's just like one you feel everything that's going on 711 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 6: from the crowd because we're in Orlando, so the crowd 712 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 6: is hyped because this is the furthest we've been in 713 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 6: a long time, and you can feel that the intensity. 714 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 6: Everybody's so hype, and it's like the only thing on 715 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 6: our minds is they've been talking about this Cleveland Laker matchup. 716 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they wanted it bad. They wanted it so bad. 717 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 6: We seeing all this stuff on TV, the com marshalls, 718 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 6: everybody's just counting us out, and that just brought out 719 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 6: so much anger that it was like, we are finna 720 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 6: destroy Cleveland, whatever it takes. We're gonna send them home 721 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 6: mad that they they from playing us. And that last 722 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 6: game was like a statement like, nah, y'all gonna remember 723 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 6: Orlando Magic. Everybody don't remember we the team that stopped 724 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 6: Lebron and Kobe from going to the. 725 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: Fut That series was still that that time really was 726 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: like some of the best baasketball that I think that 727 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: we had, the matchups, the individual players, the teams. 728 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: When did it start to click for y'all? 729 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: Though that obviously, you know, you felt like everybody was 730 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: counting y'all out and things like that, But when did 731 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: it really start to click like, oh shit, we got 732 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: a legit shot. 733 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 6: Well really that how we started out that whole that 734 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: whole season when not playoffs. We started out against Philly 735 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 6: and we were we were down. I think we had 736 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 6: to go to game six. We lost the first game. 737 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 6: Fans went crazy owners at home, How y'all make it 738 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 6: this far? Y'all best team and y'all lose the first game? 739 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 6: They going crazy owners. So I guess suspended game six. 740 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: We're already up. We just needed one more game. 741 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 6: And I'm like, man, we can't go to no game 742 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 6: seven because anything can happen. 743 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: But I'm suspended. I'm tripping. So we end up winning 744 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: a game. 745 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 6: I think we played Boston the next round and then 746 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 6: we play Cleveland. 747 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: Boston's a battle in itself. 748 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, So after beating Philly and Boston, we felt like 749 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 6: we had the upper hand on Cleveland all year and 750 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 6: we knew about why the town of game come. We 751 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: had a plan for Lebron, We had a plan for Galskins, 752 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 6: anybody on the court. We had a plan for it 753 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 6: and we wanted to dominate them, and I think we 754 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 6: did that. 755 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: Did you have. 756 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 3: Any moments in playing the calves where you're looking at 757 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 3: Lebron and what they're doing, Like damn, Like he's really 758 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 3: on a different level as far as just pure athleticism 759 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: because I think that series, like Bron didn't show one 760 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: of his best playoff series that y'all just beat them, 761 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: But like he played at a high level. 762 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: Almost every game. He had a great game. 763 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: Like you never looked across the court and was like, 764 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 3: how the fuck is he still? 765 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: Like we can't stop and we can't. 766 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 6: N We was in a mold. I didn't see him. 767 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 6: I just saw the trophy. He was in a way. 768 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 6: I was looking at the trophy like, man, he is 769 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 6: in the way. He is a person and this team 770 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 6: is in our way. Like yeah, he got to go. 771 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 6: He got to go. 772 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 9: Yeah. 773 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: So the next round, y'all get the organization that's probably 774 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: the most prestigious organization and definitely in basketball, maybe in sports. 775 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 4: But what is that feeling that we got La? We 776 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 4: got the Lakers got told. 777 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: I was like, this is it. 778 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 6: We're playing against the Lakers in the finals. The magic 779 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 6: Orlando was going. We saw Orlando flags all over Orlando. 780 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: The crowd, the fans is going crazy. I'm like this 781 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 6: at number two, you know what I'm saying that it 782 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 6: was At first, everybody was talking about this was Mickey 783 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 6: mouse Town. They wasn't like, they wasn't calling us Orlando magic, 784 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 6: calling us Orlando tragic. So for us to be go 785 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 6: from to go from that to being in the finals, man, 786 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 6: that's feeling in the world. To beat the Calves and 787 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 6: then now playing the Lakers. The games was crazy. 788 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 7: And let's not act like Boston was a trash. 789 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 6: Boston wasn't a trash team. So we went through hell 790 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: to get to By the time we got to the Lakers, 791 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 6: we had. 792 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: No more Interget. 793 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 7: Look at all the teams you had to go through 794 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 7: just to get to Kobe. 795 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to get to the big balls. You ever 796 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: played like a video game? 797 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 9: I got one life left and now you're playing against 798 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: he got hold of he got I like, bro, this 799 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 9: is not fair. 800 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: He got three seven footers. Oh my god, Oh my god. 801 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 3: You had now when you got to the finals, Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, 802 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: you're you're running mate. 803 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: Jamia was hurt, yes, but skip skip. 804 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 6: No, no skip and Anthony started the whole playoffs and 805 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 6: it was hurt up until the finals. 806 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 8: Right. 807 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 2: I always feel like that was a bad call on 808 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: Van Gundy. 809 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 6: We can't blame Van Gundy and I and I and 810 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 6: I and you know a lot of times we tried 811 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 6: to blame Van Gunny because he was the head coach, 812 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 6: but we all agreed to let to have Jamir play, 813 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 6: to for jami to come back and play because he 814 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 6: wanted them to play. It's not like we didn't, Yeah, 815 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 6: but I think it kind of messed up the chemistry 816 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 6: between Anthony and Skip. Okay, that kind of putting them 817 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 6: in a place like, man, we got y'all here, and 818 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: obviously we rock with Jamir, but Man, me and Skipped 819 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 6: did our jobs. So looking back on it, like I 820 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 6: can understand why coach and all of us wanted Jamiir 821 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 6: back because we thinking like at the time, like man, 822 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 6: we finally got him back. 823 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: Now it's it's go time. 824 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 6: But chemistry and time in is super important. Everything has 825 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 6: to be a line in order to win those championships. 826 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 6: And that was our one time, that was that was 827 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 6: our one shot we got. 828 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: We got somebody that wanted to call in and just 829 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 3: talk to you. I told me was coming in today. 830 00:39:52,160 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 10: Oh oh my god, oh my god. 831 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: Yo. 832 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 3: We were just talking about we were just talking about 833 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 3: the old non finals and uh, Dwight was saying. Dwight 834 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: was saying Trev Trav couldn't guard. It was like he 835 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: kept calling for a switch switch. 836 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 6: One thing I will say about Trail is he is 837 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 6: one of the most solid people in the world. Brother, 838 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 6: outside of whatever's going on on the with basketball, he 839 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 6: is one of the most solid and on the court 840 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 6: we've been We've been battling each other since we was 841 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 6: some JITs. Yeah, and it's crazy to see how long 842 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 6: your dreads got mine ain't grown. Send the White Little Moses, bro, 843 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 6: I saw the God Little. 844 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 8: Jesus when you started writing at the same time. 845 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, we started at the same time. I learned from you. 846 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: Why yeah, man. 847 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 3: So we were just talking about the old nine, the 848 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: old non finals, trav. Uh. When did y'all feel when 849 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: y'all got because obviously Dwight was saying everybody wanted La 850 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 3: Cleveland to see. Obviously Kobe and Braun d dwighten them 851 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: sent them packing. When dwighten them sent broad in a packing, 852 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: did you feel like, oh, we got this, this is 853 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 3: easy walking through them, or did y'all feel like, damn, man, 854 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 3: we got to go out there and beat this big 855 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: shoulder dude? 856 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 4: And Jamie and Nelson and up. 857 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 8: Man. 858 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 10: First off, personally, for me, I wanted to play them 859 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 10: so bad. So I knew, like if they won, like 860 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 10: it would be like the energy of like just the 861 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 10: world and the universe just coming back on the ass 862 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 10: if we played them, Yeah, you know, like they traded me, 863 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 10: Orlando traded me from uh well, I got traded from 864 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 10: there to Lam you know, so I knew their whole 865 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 10: everything that they did. I knew what pissed some of 866 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 10: the players off. I knew what got under Dwight skin. 867 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 10: I knew how to agitate them. So like the things 868 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 10: that I would share about what they did, you know, 869 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 10: I would tell my team. 870 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 871 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 10: So yeah, I felt like we had the advantage in 872 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 10: a way. 873 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 3: Well Dwight, Dwight, he said that he didn't because I 874 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 3: kind of blamed. I still I respect what Dwight said. 875 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: All of them agreed to have Jammiya come back and play, 876 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: But I felt like with Skip and Anthony Johnson was doing, 877 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 3: I think that that kind of messed up the chemistry. 878 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: Did y'all game plan for skipping a j and liked 879 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: WinCE Jimmy came back, Like what was the switch that 880 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: y'all made in the locker room. 881 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 10: It's crazy because I think Mier was an All Star that. 882 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 8: Year too, right, was he was Dwight? 883 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 10: Yeah he was, Mire was an All Star that year 884 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 10: that he fucked his shoulder up. So when they when 885 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 10: Skip got put in the line up, that caught the rhythm, 886 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 10: like a really really good rhythm. But Jamier is the 887 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 10: All Star starter who year after year like his play 888 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 10: has you know, gotten them to where they was at. 889 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 10: But making that switch at that time while you rolling 890 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 10: or while their team was like moving the way it 891 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 10: was moving, it was a tough decision to make for 892 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 10: a coach and a team to try to adjust to 893 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 10: without having like practice and shit like that. So that 894 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 10: was another advantage that I think that uh I was 895 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 10: able to have. 896 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Now I do. 897 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: I think I do remember one time, I think, trev 898 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 3: you got a poster on Dwight. 899 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 8: You know you tried it. The White is a fucking 900 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 8: hat man. 901 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 10: Scher has d White literally slapped it holding my ar. 902 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 2: I do have this top. 903 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 10: I'm probably two hundred and seven pounds, the white all 904 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 10: of two sixty. 905 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have my little You have to hack Trevor. 906 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you why. Every time Trevor wants to 907 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 6: dunk on you, he does a karate kick to kick you. Yeah, 908 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 6: so I had to make sure he wasn't gonna kick 909 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 6: me and then dunk on me. 910 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 8: I got here. 911 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: You a hack, Bro, Trevor. I appreciate you calling in bro. 912 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: Saying that if I am a hack, my brother Trevor reason, 913 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 3: I know who's gonna get him freeing up. Yeah, So 914 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: Dwight take us to the last game. You lose the 915 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 3: finals in two thousand and nine to to Travan Kobe 916 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: and the Lakers. 917 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 4: What is that emotion in the locker room? 918 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: Man? 919 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 6: Before we got in the locker room, I set on 920 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 6: the court with Jamir and watched him celebrate. I was 921 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 6: just like, man, man, I just got to sit here. Man, 922 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 6: this shit really it really hurts. 923 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 9: Man. 924 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 6: We put in so much time to get here, and 925 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 6: we don't know if we can get back again because 926 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 6: it's hard. But let's remember this feeling. So when we 927 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 6: get back in the gym, Yeah, this is what we're 928 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 6: fighting for. And so that's what that's what we did. 929 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 6: When I got back home and I was so hurt, 930 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 6: I set outside of my house about five five six 931 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 6: hours and I listened to the lose Yourself in the 932 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 6: Moment your own house. 933 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I just lost one shot, man, 934 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: one shot. If I never get back to Kobe, I'm 935 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 2: telling you, I was so sick. 936 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 6: Man. I just set outside like that was my one shot. Man, 937 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 6: Like this is him, this is Kobe the Lakers. Like, 938 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, man, that the Magic would have won the championship, 939 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 6: like that would have been everything that we wanted in 940 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 6: on Orlando, And uh. 941 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 3: Damn, talk to me about the because you were on 942 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 3: the bubble ring, right, the bubble that's when you got. 943 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: Your everybody you called it the bubble ring because it is. 944 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 4: What you mean. 945 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: But okay, let's have that. Let's have that conversation. You 946 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: don't feel like we should call it the bubble ring? Why, Well, 947 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: because everything around it. The season will stop, y'all wan 948 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: vacation for maybe. 949 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 2: Three months, so that should make it harder. 950 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: Well, this is why I want to have this conversation. 951 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm on the side of I don't. I don't see 952 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 3: how it's harder from the standpoint that we know exactly 953 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 3: how much traveling and having our fans screaming down on 954 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: top of the other team affect the game, Dwight, don't 955 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 3: say that, don't don't affect the game. 956 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 6: Okay, So then why didn't it affect either either way 957 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 6: when we didn't have fans. 958 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that 959 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 3: it didn't affect either way. I'm just saying I think 960 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 3: at that's a bigger element that is now missing, is 961 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 3: the fact that we don't have to go into La 962 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 3: and beat the Lakers, or we don't have to go 963 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 3: into Orlando and beat the Magic, or we don't have 964 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 3: to go into San Antonio and beat the Spurs. 965 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 6: But if we're the Lakers, everywhere we go, we're going 966 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 6: to be the home team. It doesn't matter where we 967 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 6: play at. Name one place we're going to go play at. 968 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 6: If we're the Lakers, all championship run Boston. 969 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 3: You felt like if we were winning the Boston in 970 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: one who as the Lakers? 971 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: That team we did it already. The celt doesn't even 972 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 2: go to the finals. We had the best. 973 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying the records as opposed to having 974 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 3: fans and not have it's tougher to go into Boston 975 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: and win in that building. 976 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 5: When you were in Orlando, did you feel like the 977 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 5: Lakers were at home when you guys played in Orlando. 978 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 7: Yes, oh okay. 979 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 2: Just like when we played Detroit. 980 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 4: I could see Orlando being that way. 981 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 2: Of course, the Lake I'm talking about where it's rivalry shit, like. 982 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 6: You're not one team that's only Boston everywhere, the Lakers. 983 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, if you're the Spurs, it's. 984 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 6: Hard when the Spurs, we had more Laker fans there. 985 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 6: You're talking about for the playoffs. You're talking about for 986 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 6: the finals. If we're playing the finals team, I mean, 987 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 6: it's an Eastern Conference team. 988 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,720 Speaker 3: Did we want Lakers fans and Spurs games than Spurs 989 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 3: fans in the playoffs? 990 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: Do? 991 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: We didn't play them in the I'm just saying, like 992 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: when the Lakers played the Spurs, like when Kobe did 993 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: play them, the Spurs not, but. 994 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: Back then it was a lot of Laker fans at 995 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: them games. 996 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 4: I'm sure it is because the Lakers the brand is 997 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 4: just so. 998 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying. We got home court advantage everywhere. 999 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 6: We're not getting affected by that. But how does it what? 1000 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 6: I'm all right, so you got the bubble, you. 1001 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 3: Said that we was out for hollow three so three 1002 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 3: months of no basketball, no no training, none of that. 1003 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 3: But the oldest team to come back and beat everybody 1004 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 3: fars square? 1005 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 6: How many times? What was it for? Did we sweep everybody? 1006 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1007 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 7: It was close? Was our one team prety dominant? 1008 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh it was four to one everybody? 1009 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1010 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It was a quick time. 1011 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 2: So that what does that mean? But everybody had the opportunity. 1012 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 7: Well, let me ask you. 1013 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 5: Is there a difference in the energy of when you 1014 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 5: went to the finals with the Magic playing the Lakers 1015 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 5: than when you were in the bubble in the finals? 1016 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: You can't know. 1017 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 5: I'm saying there was no worlds. There was no difference 1018 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 5: in the energy of walking onto the court. 1019 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 7: That's what I'm mean. But what is the all right, 1020 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 7: So we're asking we don't know. 1021 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 6: Obviously, if it's no fans, there's gonna feel different for 1022 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 6: when it's a whole bunch of fans there. But we 1023 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 6: was the best team coming going into the pandemic anyway. 1024 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 7: No, I get that part of it. 1025 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, when you have the stoppage, and 1026 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 3: then you obviously have guys being outspoken about not wanting 1027 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 3: to go to the bubble, you have guys that's in 1028 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 3: the bubble that's not comfortable. They're like, yo, bro, I'm 1029 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 3: ready to get out of here. So I'm just thinking, like, guys, 1030 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 3: don't really care. This is It kind of came across 1031 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 3: like we got the best players in the world, we 1032 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 3: put them inside the bubble, and they're basically like, au shit, 1033 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 3: they know what's the games are. The teams are showing 1034 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: up to the gym. But to me, it's not the 1035 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: same as when I'm watching Orlando and the Lakers in 1036 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. 1037 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 6: But then like it's just the lockout year, the lock 1038 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 6: We don't say lockout championship. 1039 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 3: They because but it isn't. But it wasn't. It wasn't 1040 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: as long as the cold, the bubble. 1041 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 2: It wasn't. Just it should have been the hardest time 1042 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: for us. That's a harder time. We're in a bubble. 1043 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 3: You play, I'm asking you if you feel like it's 1044 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 3: tougher than I'm taking It was actually played in two 1045 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 3: thousand and nine and you played in the Bubble Championship. 1046 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 6: So what I'm saying is tough. Is the circumstances that 1047 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 6: we're all up under. I would love to travel during 1048 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 6: the Finals and be with my family and. 1049 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 2: Go to LA and chill. 1050 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 6: That's that's probably harder to play now because now I 1051 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 6: gotta worry about everybody coming to the games. I gotta 1052 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 6: worry about making sure the tickets is right, the flights 1053 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 6: is right. 1054 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying it's harder, it's tougher, But it 1055 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: has nothing to do with basketball. 1056 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 8: This is. 1057 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 2: Playing in the in the bubble. 1058 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 6: It's pure basketball, So it should make it harder to 1059 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 6: play against another team because it's no other searching stance 1060 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 6: besides basketball. So now everybody's playing, they they best. Jamal Murray, 1061 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 6: he's getting fifty piece pieces in the bubble. 1062 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: He had nothing to worry about. 1063 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 6: He had no other outside stress when it comes to 1064 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 6: game day. Now, the stress that we had is dealing 1065 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,720 Speaker 6: with the whole world. Bend at Stop. Were getting COVID 1066 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 6: tests three times a day when we can't even catch 1067 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 6: a cold in there. Why are we getting COVID test 1068 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 6: so much? It's no reason for that. It's nobody there 1069 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 6: but us. Imagine waking up every day, getting the real 1070 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 6: COVID test three times a day just to play a game. 1071 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's people could put an asher, but they 1072 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 6: wasn't there. So I guess they're gonna say, well, that 1073 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 6: was easy. It's Lebron, that was his team. Yeah, but 1074 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,439 Speaker 6: come on, man, if the next with the one y'all, 1075 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 6: I bet you would have said it was an astro. 1076 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 3: I would that would be a nasty championship, would I 1077 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 3: would say it was the greatest championship of all time. 1078 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 4: Champions But I would say that's nat I. 1079 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 6: Would say it would be nasty because it's no parade 1080 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 6: and no other stuff that got with it. That's the 1081 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 6: nasty part. I want a parade. I won't at least 1082 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 6: we didin't get a chance to do nothing. Man, only 1083 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,280 Speaker 6: parade I got was on my two K man I won. 1084 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 2: So see I did. 1085 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 3: This is damn So you didn't win an O nine, 1086 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: but you wanted you won in twenty twenty. Right, tough 1087 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: question because I think I know your answer. Would you 1088 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: rather have won in O nine than twenty twenty? 1089 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1090 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: Orlando, Why it's Orlando? Okay, first championship, Yeah. 1091 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 7: That's a staple like that. 1092 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 6: That's like the first one that changes everything. So of 1093 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 6: course in Orlando, and then the crowd is there just 1094 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 6: before the new arenas finished. Oh my god, going into 1095 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 6: the New Arena with Arene. 1096 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, quick question at disney World? 1097 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: What rank and to end up at Disney World? Oh 1098 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: my god? 1099 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, you literally say it that D like you just 1100 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 7: want to be a championship. 1101 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: What you're gonna do? 1102 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 3: Likes going across the street. 1103 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: Back to my room. I got some sod. I'm going 1104 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: to my room. All right, Prime Shack or prom Dwight. 1105 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 6: I gotta go with myself. But Prime Shack is a 1106 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 6: big old beast. But I'm not backing down. 1107 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 4: No, I know you ain't backing down. 1108 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 6: But seven to two, seven two, three twenty and I'm 1109 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 6: pushing six eleven with shoes on to sixty five. It's cool. 1110 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 6: I'm a battle my ass off. I'm strong as ship. 1111 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 6: So hey, I'm going with Prime Dwhight. 1112 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm mad. I'm not mad at that. 1113 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 6: I'm five ship out of them too. But you know, 1114 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 6: in our career, if you've ever seen it, we both have. 1115 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 6: I think we average like five files every game against Yeah. 1116 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a lot of that going on. 1117 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, what does the. 1118 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 5: NBA need to do with All Star weekend in general? 1119 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 5: Not just the All Star Game but three point contests? D? 1120 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 4: Why you gotta come back into the dunk contest. 1121 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 6: What I mean, what you want people to do. I'm 1122 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 6: telling y'all it's oversaturated. Like think about it. Yeah, we 1123 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 6: have seen all the dunks in the world. What else 1124 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 6: can somebody do? 1125 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 5: Do you think they need to add in some of 1126 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 5: the I mean they try to do it, but the 1127 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 5: YouTube dunkers and bringing people up from G League just 1128 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 5: for that weekend, Like. 1129 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 2: You can do that stuff too. 1130 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 6: But again, now everybody wants to be compensated for what 1131 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 6: they're doing there in ils. 1132 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 3: I mean, they make enough money doing it. I don't 1133 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: make enough money. No, no, no, no the YouTuber I 1134 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 3: understand that. 1135 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 6: But the YouTuber is saying, hey, you if you want 1136 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 6: my name, image and likeness and you want me to 1137 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 6: get out there and dunk, I want to get paid. 1138 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 2: I want to I want to do all this stuff. 1139 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 6: So now I think looking at all that, you know 1140 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 6: the biggest thing is to attract this new market. 1141 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: So if I was them, they got all them chaps 1142 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: GTP servers. 1143 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 6: Just ask all the ais and AI is gonna tell 1144 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 6: them how to make All Star better. 1145 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 3: They're trying something with It's the world versus the NBA, right, 1146 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 3: They already do that though, But that's that's what the 1147 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 3: younger guys when. 1148 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna play that the World versus Us in the 1149 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 2: in the States. 1150 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, let fall Star weekend, But is that that's cool 1151 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 5: to add on to the All Star Weekend. I'm gonna 1152 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 5: watch it, but that's not a game changer. 1153 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 2: It's not going to be a game. It's just going 1154 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: to be normal. Can you know who's you know, it's 1155 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: not going to ever be the same. We don't. 1156 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 6: We don't seem so much good talent. We done seeing 1157 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 6: the best of the best of the best of the world. 1158 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 6: So now we're expecting the All Star Game to be 1159 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 6: something crazy when it just ain't. The times we lived 1160 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 6: in we probably gotta let that go because it was. 1161 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 6: It's nostalgic for us to be like, damn, I remember 1162 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 6: when it was in the All Star Game. Everybody had 1163 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 6: their home jersey on all that stuff. Yeah, it's cool, 1164 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 6: but now we didn't. The Times is saying for some different. 1165 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I like the idea of having the World 1166 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 3: versus USA and in the All Star Weekend, only because 1167 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if the USA wins. Oh right now, 1168 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 3: right now, that's what your game. But who's gonna play 1169 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 3: the last three? 1170 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 2: How they are people gonna really play? 1171 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 4: What's the I think if it's I think if it's 1172 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 4: that structure, that format. 1173 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 2: But what's the center behind it? Sho do you pick? 1174 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: How do you vote? 1175 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 9: Now? 1176 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,280 Speaker 5: I think if they did it with the actual All Stars, 1177 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 5: it would give more incentive because I think America would 1178 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 5: have something to prove because I think. 1179 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 2: The Olympics. 1180 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 4: Then, so why do y'all know what difference? 1181 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 5: Because it's every single If it's the world, everyone, that's 1182 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 5: just not citizen. 1183 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 3: Each team the world versus the US the best player, Yeah, 1184 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 3: the US. That could be tough because now you got 1185 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 3: Luca on the same team. 1186 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 2: Time, you ain't got enough time for you need more 1187 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: than the All Star Game. You see what I'm saying. 1188 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 6: Time and you're like, man, hold on, who we gonna get? 1189 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 6: We got we got to make sure we picked the 1190 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 6: right guys. And then it take away from it going 1191 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 6: back to the All Star voting. Remember these guys is 1192 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 6: also trying to make sure for longevity they get on 1193 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 6: the All Star team so they can get another year 1194 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 6: in they contract all different things. So now that the 1195 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 6: money is so much, it's so much stuff involved to 1196 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 6: just make it difficult. The one thing I would like 1197 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 6: to see is not with the All Star Game, but Olympics. 1198 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 6: Instead of having the Olympics in another city or another 1199 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 6: country every year, I think that they should go back 1200 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 6: to Greece where it started at, fix it up to 1201 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 6: where it looked like the old school kind of style, 1202 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 6: but make it new school. But just keep it there 1203 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 6: every year so we can bring the value back into it. 1204 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 6: Because when you have it in every every place around 1205 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 6: the world, they they putting all their money up for 1206 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 6: one year or for a couple of years just to 1207 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 6: build this place up. And then now when the Olympics 1208 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 6: is over it you got all these nice venues, but 1209 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 6: nothing to do with it. 1210 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 2: I do want better. 1211 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 5: They'll build all that shit just to bid. They might 1212 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 5: not even get the Olympics. 1213 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the bid for it. So just like they're 1214 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 6: having in it. Are they still having it in California? 1215 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 7: It's in LA. Yeah, the next one in LA. 1216 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: So they're having in LA. They have to bid for 1217 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: for a couple of years. 1218 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 7: The Olympics. 1219 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: What about all the people that live there that have 1220 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 2: to travel and work. We're not going to go to 1221 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: the Olympics. So I have to just live. 1222 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 6: I be going to do all that stuff. So now 1223 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 6: let's put it back to where it started. Let's bring 1224 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 6: the value back into it. Let's kind of get the 1225 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 6: real gold medals, the real silver medals. Make it mean 1226 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 6: something again. Like every country when they go playing Olympics, 1227 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 6: it really means it. Don't seem like it's like for 1228 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 6: us in America. So I think that'll get back to 1229 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 6: everything else. Like, hold up, now, if we want to 1230 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 6: be the most dominant, let's do it in the Olympics, 1231 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 6: let's be the most dominant in NBA baseball, whatever it 1232 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 6: may be. 1233 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 3: Now, this news just broke. The Bus family is entering 1234 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 3: an agreement to sell majority ownership of the Los Angeles 1235 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 3: Lakers to Mark Walter, the CEO and chairman of diversified 1236 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 3: holding company t WG Global. 1237 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: This just happened. 1238 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 8: Just happened. 1239 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 4: News just broke. 1240 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: The Bus family is entering an agreement to sell majority ownership. 1241 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: How much money. 1242 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 8: Is there? 1243 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 7: A number? 1244 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked. 1245 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 6: He talking about billions, because I know, mister, I know 1246 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 6: the one that who who have transitioned a couple of 1247 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 6: years ago. 1248 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 2: You don't woke up by that great. 1249 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, ten billion billion alleged. 1250 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 2: Now alleged to billion. Is that enough? That is enough, 1251 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: that's enough to get it done, get it done. You 1252 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: never don't see her again. It's funny because like doing 1253 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: that's what Phil jacksonsone right now, Oh, ten billion is 1254 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 2: crazy for. 1255 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 6: Majority order ship majority one. Man, Just give me a 1256 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 6: well since we didn't, since we didn't have our parade. 1257 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 7: We can do the five year anniversary. Man, give me something. 1258 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a crazy you know, hair and 1259 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 3: numbers like that is like, you know, you never think 1260 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,479 Speaker 3: that you would. 1261 01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever seen anything like that. 1262 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 9: No, I'm. 1263 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: I've never seen it. 1264 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 4: But what does that mean for the Lakers? 1265 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 8: Though? 1266 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Like, what do you think that means for. 1267 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 3: You know, the Los Angeles Lakers because now they still 1268 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 3: they're so majority ownership. 1269 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 7: Like a sports organization. 1270 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 2: It's like, it's sorry that all right, it's our whole lives. 1271 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 2: We've known the Lakers to be from where Los Angeles, no, no, no, no, 1272 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: from whom there you go the bus fan every we 1273 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 2: know bus bus they own it and then it ain't 1274 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: the bus is no more. It's just like the world 1275 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 2: is changing, bro. 1276 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's exactly what that that's that's a 1277 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 3: that's like Stanbrenner not having or the star Broners. 1278 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Anything to do with the Yankees. 1279 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 7: That's that's the only family I could compare that to 1280 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 7: those organizations. 1281 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 4: Ten billion dollars. This this changes, you. 1282 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 3: Know, they're not they're there's shifts at this shifts a 1283 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 3: lot of ten billion dollars. 1284 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 2: What are they about to do to the Lakers? I 1285 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: want in listen, I would be whatever y'all need me 1286 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: to be on team. 1287 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 5: Hey, now I totally understand why it's not the Staples 1288 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 5: Center anymore because who shopped at Staples? 1289 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 7: You know you can't afford that. 1290 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 8: No see? 1291 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 2: And then a smart cryptocurrency now it's blowing up. 1292 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 7: Who can we google? Who bought it? 1293 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 4: A multinational conglomerate holding company founded by Mark Walter with 1294 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 4: interest in financial services, insurance, AI technology, sports, media, entertainment, 1295 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 4: and energy. 1296 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 5: So it's one of those companies where you know absolutely 1297 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 5: nothing of what they do and it's just a bunch 1298 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 5: of words. 1299 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 7: And they're billionaires. 1300 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay them, you do everything? Oh my god. 1301 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 5: Anytime you see private investment services with an enterprise value 1302 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 5: exceeding forty billion dollars and. 1303 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 2: They just they gave the Lakers ten billion, just a 1304 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 2: ten piece, don't worry about it. 1305 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 6: Hey, here's ten billion. We're going to take this company 1306 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 6: that you had for aready how long the Lakers? 1307 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Probably fifty years? Yeah, what can you do with the 1308 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Lakers now? Seventies? I believe Do you think that was 1309 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 2: a great move? Well, money talks got to get it 1310 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 2: done in this world. AI. 1311 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 5: Who knows where AI and sports are going? And how 1312 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 5: you own everything that happened with the Lakers. 1313 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: Where's it going? It ain't gonna be no more players, 1314 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be all AI. So while you're doing it, that's. 1315 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 5: Now they're telling the Lakers for AI and all the 1316 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 5: likeness of every player that was ever on the Lakers's. 1317 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 7: He was folding that deal. 1318 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Ain't nothing. What's gonna be playing. 1319 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna be at hole looking at it VR sets 1320 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 6: of fake Lebron. 1321 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Now I do I do believe the way we'll we'll 1322 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,439 Speaker 3: view basketball games is gonna change. 1323 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1324 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 3: I can see them doing something where each player has 1325 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: a point of view camera on them and you can 1326 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 3: kind of. 1327 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 4: Figure out who to follow the whole game. 1328 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 6: Things like damn much. See they taken away from the 1329 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 6: integrity of the sport. But at the same time, it's 1330 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,439 Speaker 6: AI and this is what people want. They always trying 1331 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 6: to stay a step ahead of the game. 1332 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 4: So this is a major move when you see numbers 1333 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 4: like that. 1334 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 3: Though Dwight as a player, a young Dwight Howard, let's 1335 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 3: say he's drafted by the Lakers, amazing first three years. 1336 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 3: It's time for you to get your extension, your negotiation. 1337 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 3: Now you negotiate with the Lakers. This deal happened for 1338 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 3: ten billion dollars. What does dwighteness agent sit down to 1339 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 3: talk about. 1340 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, agent, I love you. 1341 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 7: And refer to him as a you know, a. 1342 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah agent love Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but this next deal, I. 1343 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 8: Think I have to do it on my own. 1344 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 7: You're not taking ten percent? 1345 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 2: Ten billion is up. 1346 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean, does that change any of the 1347 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 5: market value for Lakers players just because that deal happened. 1348 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's going to be. 1349 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 6: The cap, the caps. Yeah, well, the cap is always 1350 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 6: the captain this league. That everything is cap everything. 1351 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, Yo, the Big Three. We can't 1352 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 3: let you go without talking about this. 1353 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 2: Now. They hit the chat the other night they said 1354 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 2: we had Dwight coming in on Wednesday. 1355 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, yeah, Dwight Man. 1356 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 3: I hung up with Dwight and travel a couple of 1357 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 3: nights and they was here in New York. Uh, I said, Dwight. 1358 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Cool man. 1359 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Then they send because we're supposed to have Lance here 1360 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 3: earlier today, but he missed his flight. So they was like, yo, 1361 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 3: any overlap, Like I said. 1362 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 7: What happened. 1363 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:51,439 Speaker 4: So he's seen the clip. I'm like, that's just basketball man. Yeah, yeah, 1364 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 4: like it ain't nothing. 1365 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 6: See, I think before that they had allowed so much 1366 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 6: stuff to happen before the game, and I think it had. 1367 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 6: I was just out of my element, okay, And I 1368 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 6: was pissed off more so at myself after that for allowing, 1369 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 6: you know, allowing that whole game to even get to 1370 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 6: that point. 1371 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 4: Okay, you feel like you played a part in it 1372 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 4: getting to that point. 1373 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I mean, one, I didn't know how the 1374 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 6: game goes into Big three, you know what I'm saying. 1375 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm before the game, everybody's like, yeah, 1376 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 2: this is a trash talking lead. 1377 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 6: We want you guys to talk trash, and all the time, 1378 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, then I can talk trash and what 1379 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,919 Speaker 6: else yeah, I want you all to you know, get 1380 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 6: get it. It's way physical. I'm like, okay, all right, 1381 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 6: So we're playing like certain things was happening. It was 1382 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 6: a play where Lance had kind of got scored on 1383 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 6: and then he shoved the ball in Jordan Crawford's chest 1384 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 6: and so that kind of got Jordan heated. The next 1385 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 6: play you see Jordan taking his finger, going all up 1386 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 6: in his nose and searching for buggers and shit. 1387 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 2: So that happened. 1388 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 6: Then more in a game, they yelling in our faces. 1389 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 6: Before the game, they doing the same thing. So I'm like, man, 1390 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 6: it's a little bit too much man. And so the 1391 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 6: play with Man, Lance kind of get into a scuffle 1392 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 6: kind of like pick up his fist out like he's 1393 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 6: gonna throw a punch, So. 1394 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 2: Like put my hand up, like hold up, what the 1395 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 2: fun going on again? So I'm like yo. And then 1396 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: at that point I'm like I kind of blapped that 1397 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 2: for a second. 1398 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1399 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 2: Then when I grabbed him and started to pick him up, 1400 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, I'm fucking tripping. But that's how 1401 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 2: I started, I thought. But in the moment, I'm in 1402 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 2: the moment, so I'm like, oh shit, yeah, yeah, And 1403 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm also thinking too, like by the time they see 1404 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 2: us really starting to go, I'm thinking everybody because I'm like, oh, Ship, 1405 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 2: this is too much. 1406 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, bring it up. Yeah. 1407 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 6: Then it just I start tripping over Ship in the 1408 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 6: floor and the people on the boy the basket, and 1409 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 6: then I'm looking at babies and Ship. 1410 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:08,919 Speaker 11: I'm like, man, a baby, Like man, there's a lot 1411 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 11: so I mean, it's not but that's just basketball. 1412 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 2: I think. I think you know Chat, I said, Man, 1413 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 2: that's just bad. They didn't throw no punch. 1414 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like, man, first of all, throwing the punch 1415 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 6: with that's so disrespectful and basketball all all these kids 1416 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 6: and families that's there like that, that's when it becomes 1417 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,560 Speaker 6: a brawl when you have some kind of situation like 1418 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 6: that happened, and so I'm glad it didn't escalate to that, 1419 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 6: but I'm glad it did happen to you kind of 1420 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 6: got all that energy got the way down. Now for 1421 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 6: the rest of the season, everybody can just hoop. 1422 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 3: Now we saw Mike, Michael Beasley and Alance just played 1423 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 3: one on one last week. 1424 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 4: How good is Michael Beasley to me personally? I feel 1425 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 4: like he probably has. 1426 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 2: The same. 1427 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 4: Skill set is a Carmelo Anthony. I don't think he 1428 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 4: had to. 1429 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Obviously, the professionalism and maybe some other things kind of 1430 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 3: you know, hindered his potential in the career in the 1431 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 3: NBA and what he could have accomplished, But just from 1432 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 3: a skill set, to me, Michael Beasley is one of 1433 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 3: the most gifted basketball players I've ever seen. 1434 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 2: I think he is too. I think, man, it's just timing. 1435 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 6: He was a team and a situation at a time 1436 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,719 Speaker 6: where it wasn't accepting I guess with how they felt 1437 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 6: his behavior was Miami whatever. And you know, once you 1438 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 6: get kind of a bad rep in the league and 1439 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 6: it's really hard to come. 1440 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 2: Back from it. And I think he's awesome. I remember meeting, 1441 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, Mike in high school, him in. 1442 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 6: KD at the Top one hundred camp, and they had 1443 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 6: asked me to talk to both of them, and I 1444 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 6: saw both of them. I'm like, man, both of these 1445 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 6: guys has got a chance to really be special. I 1446 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 6: told KD. Then I said, man, you can be one 1447 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 6: of the best scores in the NBA. 1448 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 8: Ever. 1449 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 2: He is absolutely Bees is just one of the coldest 1450 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 2: basketball players. 1451 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 6: It's just all about time and the opportunity I think Miami, 1452 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 6: he was on a team where it was who was 1453 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 6: on that team? 1454 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 2: Man? Was it d way the way? Yep? 1455 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 6: It's if you don't have that, if you don't have 1456 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 6: a team when you come into the league, like Mike deserve. 1457 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 2: To have his own team. 1458 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 6: So his talent is that thin, you know, that's how good, 1459 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 6: that's how talented he is. I just feel like maybe 1460 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 6: he didn't have. 1461 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why they did him 1462 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: like that. Man, yeah, he I don't know why. I 1463 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 2: think that. It can't make you depressed. 1464 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 6: Oh yes, I've had those days, in those moments and 1465 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 6: those times of depression. 1466 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 2: Why does team do that? 1467 01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 6: And it's like you can't expect me not to make 1468 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 6: a mistake or feel in certain situations like you know, one, 1469 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 6: I'm human, I'm young as hell. You're giving me all 1470 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 6: this at twenty three, twenty four? 1471 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 2: What do you expect? You know what I'm saying, Like 1472 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 2: we didn't grow up. 1473 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,600 Speaker 6: I may have you know both my parents, but my 1474 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,480 Speaker 6: parents know about millions of dollars. You understand the lifestyle 1475 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 6: that come with this, And I'm the one that's living it. 1476 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 6: Mike's the one that's living in all these other players, 1477 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 6: we're we're living this this lifestyle. So it's like if 1478 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 6: you're not in it, if you haven't been a part 1479 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 6: of it's like, how can you understand it? And you know, 1480 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 6: for Mike Man and a lot of guys who'll be 1481 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 6: depressed and stuff like that, it could be difficult. 1482 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 3: How do you deal with those moments of having the 1483 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 3: success that you have and you know, achieving things that 1484 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 3: not many people will ever achieve and reaching these heights, 1485 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 3: but then also feeling those moments of not being fulfilled, 1486 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 3: not being motivated. How does Dwight Howard how did you 1487 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 3: navigate those moments in your career? 1488 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 6: Ooh, man, Sometimes I just have to travel, get away 1489 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,919 Speaker 6: from the States, get away from you know, my normal routine, 1490 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,280 Speaker 6: and just you know, see the world different, you know, 1491 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 6: sometimes traveling you see how people live and you know 1492 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 6: other places and it's like, man, you know, everybody's out 1493 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 6: here and there's one mission for everybody in the whole world. 1494 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 2: Was just trying to survive until the next day. Everybody, 1495 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 2: no matter where you are, everybody's. 1496 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 6: Just trying to survive. And you see that and I'm like, man, 1497 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 6: I done did so much in my younger days that 1498 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 6: you know I can rest easy knowing that the hard 1499 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 6: work is a lot of my hard work behind me. 1500 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 6: I done work so hard to build up this life 1501 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 6: that I have. Now I should just be thankful, you know. 1502 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 6: So when I have those moments, I'm like, Man, God, 1503 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 6: I'm just so thankful for you. I could have been dead, 1504 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 6: I could have been out in the streets, I could 1505 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 6: have been doing anything else. But you allowed me to 1506 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 6: play this one sport for all these years. And it's 1507 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 6: because of my dedication, my discipline to the sport, to you, 1508 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 6: and to my faith that I have these things. 1509 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 2: So, Man, thank you. Going overseas is probably one. They're 1510 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,560 Speaker 2: really just getting a loan? Man, Was that? 1511 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 3: Was that one of the things that played the fact 1512 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 3: in your decision to go to Taiwan was just wanting 1513 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 3: to get out of your norm and find motivation again. 1514 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, Taiwan's amazing. I remember getting ready to go 1515 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,520 Speaker 6: to Taiwan. 1516 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 2: People like why would you go over there? 1517 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1518 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,560 Speaker 6: Taiwan's A third one comes from like how would you 1519 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 6: know what Taiwan is? You ain't never right right, Like, 1520 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 6: you don't know what I'm gonna get from. 1521 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 8: Going out over there. 1522 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,919 Speaker 2: But if God is telling me to go to Taiwan 1523 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 2: and he's opening doors. I'm gonna go. 1524 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 6: I go to Taiwan, stay there for eight months, end 1525 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 6: up getting my own Basketball All League, getting a gold card, 1526 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 6: which means I can do business all over Taiwan and 1527 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 6: my whole family. So it's like I done set myself 1528 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 6: up for the future by going by listening to God 1529 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 6: and taking a step of a leap of faith, you 1530 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. 1531 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 2: So Taiwan really gave me wings. 1532 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 6: You know, going overseas, you know, playing basketball again just 1533 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 6: the obviously the NBA and the Taiwanese League is different. Yeah, 1534 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:34,480 Speaker 6: you know, I would say, like the fans really inspired 1535 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 6: me while I was there and motivated me to just 1536 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 6: remember why I played, you know what drove me back 1537 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 6: in the day. And I'm like, man, this is awesome. 1538 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 6: Seeing ninety year olds come to the games. I'm like, yo, 1539 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 6: this is awesome, man, just to witness this. Man, there's 1540 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 6: people coming from different parts of the world. They know 1541 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 6: who I am, Like, I'm from college part of Georgia. Yeah, 1542 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 6: there's somebody. 1543 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 8: All the way in. 1544 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Whatever part of Taiwan this is. Don't got no TV. 1545 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 6: Screen, and they know my name, my family, name. They 1546 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 6: gonna give me anything they can to. 1547 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,679 Speaker 2: Show me they love me. Yeah, that's an awesome feeling. 1548 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 2: I was happy. I was happy to see you, you know, 1549 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 2: just being yourself and having fun. 1550 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be honest. When I saw them stats, 1551 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 3: I said, Dwight gotta cut this ship out. 1552 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Man. 1553 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 3: He over there, I said, why Dwight's premeditated murder? 1554 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, what it was for funzies. 1555 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 4: Man, like sixty and thirty. I was like, come on, man, 1556 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 4: get your ass back over there? 1557 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 2: Man, what's playing over there like that? You can't You 1558 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,720 Speaker 2: was over there putting up. It's just like, yo, come on, man, 1559 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 2: stop playing with those people. Man, lead them people alone. 1560 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 2: Had so much fun. 1561 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 3: I'm just even like dunking on my knees too. Man, Listen, 1562 01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 3: they could be told to you, but they ain't. Never 1563 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 3: see nothing like Dwight out in Taiwan. You're right exactly 1564 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 1565 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 6: But I had so much fun just being able to 1566 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 6: be outside of like it was like, I know you 1567 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 6: probably heard people say it before, like they have a 1568 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 6: person and they have another personality, Like so DH twelve, 1569 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,640 Speaker 6: that's the basketball player that's now. 1570 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 2: I got a chance to be Dwight Howard over there, 1571 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 2: get out, just walk Okay, you know what I'm saying. 1572 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 6: Just go to the park and just sit. Yeah, you 1573 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,759 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Like little stuff like that experience 1574 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 6: the greatest him. Though these are experiences like in America. 1575 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's be hard because it's an expectation. I go out, Hey, 1576 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 6: come here, let me take a picture. Yeah, you will 1577 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 6: talk to my cousin. 1578 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1579 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 2: You know, when I'm over there, they just who dum, 1580 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 2: I love you. Yeah, and then they just let me, 1581 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, go about my day. Now. 1582 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 6: Obviously they want pure and stuff, but sometimes they seemed 1583 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,799 Speaker 6: like oh he just yeah, they go dwhite. 1584 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 2: That felt really good. Yeah, that's dope. I mean I 1585 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 2: think you need those moments. 1586 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,719 Speaker 7: Even Steph talked about his experience in China that was similar. 1587 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1588 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 7: Well so yeah, I think that's great. That's where Steph was. 1589 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, stepping all over. 1590 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1591 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 7: But now we really appreciate you, man. 1592 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 8: This was great. 1593 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 7: Thank you for coming through. 1594 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dwight, it was a it was I mean, we again, 1595 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,679 Speaker 3: you know, I've had I was around you and Trap 1596 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 3: some nights when I was here. 1597 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,720 Speaker 4: We hit the club a little bit. But I was 1598 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 4: telling the guys all. 1599 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 3: One thing about Dwight what you see on TV when 1600 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 3: he's speaking, he's the same person like on and off 1601 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 3: the floor, Like he just has this energy and spirit 1602 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 3: about him. That's just very welcoming, very you know, no ego, 1603 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 3: and you have all right to have an ego. You 1604 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 3: larger than life figure, done some great things in the NBA, 1605 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 3: but always always, even from. 1606 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 2: When you came in, had the same spirit in it. 1607 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 2: You're very humble. 1608 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 3: The way you carried yourself very professional. I think that 1609 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 3: and that played a lot in the success that you 1610 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 3: had in the NBA as well. So thank you for 1611 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 3: coming through, Dwight. We appreciate you. Thanks and get men 1612 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 3: called Jeanie man, get some of that ten Bill man. 1613 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,639 Speaker 2: Don't come on. We ain't getting no listen. 1614 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 4: He ain't getting no parade. 1615 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 2: You no parade. They calling it a bubble. 1616 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 6: Ring a couple hundred thousand, a couple hundred million, and 1617 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 6: let everybody know that the bubbles is real. 1618 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 2: What's up, j come on, Jennie stopped playing