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Speaker 1: It was cool. Uh could have could have called a

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Speaker 1: better defense, but I called what I called and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, things happen. But it was fun though. Did

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Speaker 1: you know that was gonna happen? Oh? Yeah, we did

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Speaker 1: it before and O t a s um. We've done

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Speaker 1: it a couple of times. Uh, kind of just where

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Speaker 1: it's like a competition thing, uh for me and DJ

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Speaker 1: will be able to call basically the whole period um

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Speaker 1: for the defense and then him for the offense. So

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Speaker 1: it's fun doing it. It's uh, it's a competitive moment um.

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Speaker 1: Obviously were both trying to win, so we're both trying

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Speaker 1: to call the best play, um, you know for us

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Speaker 1: to succeed. Say, even though there's a new defensive system,

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Speaker 1: really comfortable when it is there? Cool, I mean might

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Speaker 1: see things or am I accurate? And if so, what

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Speaker 1: is it about the stefense? It just kind of fens

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Speaker 1: for me, you know comfortable. Yeah, I am definitely uh

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Speaker 1: still obviously learning it, um, but I definitely felt a

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Speaker 1: lot more comfortable just because I'm able to uh kind

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Speaker 1: of do um everything. Um. So that's kind of been

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Speaker 1: my main focus for a couple of years now. UM,

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Speaker 1: but like I said, I'm still a little rusty. UM.

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Speaker 1: Still um learning through some things. But it's definitely been fun.

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Speaker 1: Um just kind of being able to be everywhere on

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Speaker 1: the field, something I always like doing. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned you're still learning. It haven't gone through like

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Speaker 1: of starting again from step one during training camps. That

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Speaker 1: helped to kind of reinforce that. Yeah, it does. I

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Speaker 1: think like as far as like the play the plays go,

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Speaker 1: like obviously I've got that down because we've went over

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Speaker 1: it a couple of times now, but it's about you know,

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Speaker 1: being in different position, seeing how you can kind of

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Speaker 1: offense a little bit. So that's like when I say

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Speaker 1: I'm learning it, that's what I like, what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that. So I try to go back and look at,

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Speaker 1: you know, what the Ravens did in the past, how

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Speaker 1: their players did it. Actually talked to um Eric Weddow

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Speaker 1: helped me a lot. Actually, Um, we just kind of uh,

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Speaker 1: to how to be on the same page page with

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Speaker 1: a wink, things like that. So we had good combo.

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Speaker 1: He really helped me out as far as um just

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Speaker 1: looking at looking at film study and film how he

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Speaker 1: had Wink. Um. So he was really helpful. But um,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean by like, you know, still trying

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Speaker 1: to trying to learn it and get stuff downpack selling

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Speaker 1: it than like an executing and they had more selling. Yea.

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Speaker 1: How did you get hooked up with Wink? Actually? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, so we had we were talking about a

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Speaker 1: kind of went back and forth about it and then uh,

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Speaker 1: he actually gave me winks number. I mean he gave me,

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Speaker 1: uh weddow's number. Um. So then we talked um and

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Speaker 1: I asked him some questions. Uh. He just gave me

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Speaker 1: But it was really helpful. Um, and you know I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed kind of you know, getting that getting that uh

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Speaker 1: you know, experience from him. So you get film stuff

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Speaker 1: with him remote me. He was on and you were on.

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Speaker 1: You know we could achieved with you seeing you couldie

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Speaker 1: you know what we're what we're both kind of talking about.

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Speaker 1: So um and a guy like that, obviously, Um, he's

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Speaker 1: player's coach. Somebody's gonna listen. You should a play car.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see the green daughter you're getting the

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Speaker 1: signals or the blade linebacker right now, I'm getting the signals. Um.

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Speaker 1: But uh, like says, it's a process. Um, obviously it's

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Speaker 1: getting I'm getting the pleasure safety and not the linebacker

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Speaker 1: to do that. Is that unusual for the safety and

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Speaker 1: not the middle linebacker to do that? Oh? I mean

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Speaker 1: done it before, I did it Obama. So Um, it's

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Speaker 1: not something that's surprising or it's not something that's like

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Speaker 1: too hard. Obviously it's a little different when you got

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Speaker 1: to get the call to everybody, um and be obviously

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Speaker 1: run thirty yards and then run back to get to

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Speaker 1: play to everybody. But um, you know, it's not unto

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Speaker 1: unusual to me projection. How's your worst projection? Like you

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Speaker 1: gotta you know, yeah now yeah, now, you gotta definitely

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Speaker 1: But it's not too bad. Um. I think once everybody

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Speaker 1: Everybody's you know, communicating. I'm I'm making I'm making sure

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Speaker 1: know they'll get it to the front. So we're working

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Speaker 1: through it obviously. UM, So not too bad yourself. You

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Speaker 1: see yourself being a coach down the line, which you

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Speaker 1: plague That's a tough question. I can answer that right now.

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Speaker 1: But obviously I still want to you know, be in

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