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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. I Miles Simmons

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Speaker 1: joined by DeMarco far and it is October tenth, Wednesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: loving am Pacific time here in Agora Hills, California, and

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Speaker 1: the Rams are five and oh five and oh for

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Speaker 1: the first time since two thousand and one. DeMarco, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice looking suit, right, put them on five and oh. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It just makes you feel good, look good, play good.

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Speaker 1: I like saying I'd just like saying undefeated. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: undefeated Los Angeles. I like that. Five weeks of the

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. Pretty cool, absolutely cool, much deserved, I think.

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Speaker 1: So what a dog fight in Seattle thirty three to

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Speaker 1: thirty one. The final score of that one as the

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Speaker 1: Rams eked out a win. Scratching and klawn out. That's

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Speaker 1: the same thing, scratching and clawn it's like surviving. Eking

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Speaker 1: out is like you're crawling across the finish line. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well they didn't crawl across the finish line. Fine, they

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Speaker 1: went the last place finisher on a high school track

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Speaker 1: team where you clap them in. All right, fine, scratching

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Speaker 1: and claw. They aggressively went for it on fourth down

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Speaker 1: in order to get the Yeah, yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they took it. Yeah, yeah, they took it. They

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Speaker 1: took it. Um, And that that last play wasn't that

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Speaker 1: last last play, but the play that decided the game

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Speaker 1: was to sneak for the win. I didn't expect it, Um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily think that. I didn't. Man, and you're

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Speaker 1: looking at me like I'm crazy. You didn't expect McVey

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Speaker 1: to go for it? Called neither. Really, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought was going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but I just I didn't think. I wouldn't have done it.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I'm not a head coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is, Um, it's not even that I say

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Speaker 1: trust your defense, because look, you know, going up against

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson that things can happen, and weird things can happen,

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Speaker 1: and he can throw it down. I just I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that the Rams would be that aggressive in that

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Speaker 1: certain stance because they were on their own side of

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Speaker 1: the field. I wouldn't have put my defense in that situation, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean unless they were playing lights out, unless Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson was going three and out, three and out, three

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Speaker 1: and out, one two three kick one two three kick.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have put him in that situation, not in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: not when Russell Wilson had some sort of momentum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's I guess that's why you call head coaches

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Speaker 1: like captains or skippers. Man. They got to read the win,

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Speaker 1: reading the momentum of that game and how it felt.

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Speaker 1: The right choice was to try to win it there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is your last choice if you're Sean McVay, that

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Speaker 1: your last opportunity here to have victory within your own hands.

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Speaker 1: After that, you're sending your defense out and hoping, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: right choice, right Cole. They got it. No, absolutely was

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Speaker 1: the right choice and right call, especially because there was

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Speaker 1: only what like six to twelve inches that you needed.

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Speaker 1: You know, so you do you call that play? You

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Speaker 1: have Jared golf ball forward and he gets two yards,

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Speaker 1: not just six inches that he needs, but he gets

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Speaker 1: the first down, and yet you've ended the game at

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Speaker 1: that point. We'll think about this, right, I love this.

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Speaker 1: It's six inches and look on the other side. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: we are trained and taught and brainwashed into thinking we

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Speaker 1: can stop that. Okay, number two, the offense knows the

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Speaker 1: play and they know the snap count, right, they should

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Speaker 1: get a half a beat jump on any defense in

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Speaker 1: the world. I don't care what they have up front.

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Speaker 1: So any team worth assault in that situation should be

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Speaker 1: able to pick up six inches to a foot to

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Speaker 1: a yard to win a football game on the road. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think. And that was the attitude. You know, you

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Speaker 1: talk to Sean McVay after the game. It sort of

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Speaker 1: became this interesting oral history thing that I think all

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Speaker 1: of the Beat reporters were trying to do, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how did the fourth down decision come about? Excuse me?

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Speaker 1: And then Sean mcvay's basically like, you know, looked at

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Speaker 1: the players and talking to the players. The players wanted

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Speaker 1: to go for it, and it's like okay. So then

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Speaker 1: you start talking to the players and it's like Andrew

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Speaker 1: Witworth is like I was on the bench. I was

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Speaker 1: in full pop mode already. Jared Goff is like I

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Speaker 1: on the sideline. And so I think you miss understood

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Speaker 1: him when he said I looked at the players. It

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Speaker 1: his offensive guys. It probably was all the defensive guys,

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Speaker 1: go for it, pick that damn thing up and win

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Speaker 1: the game. It's right there. Why give them X amount

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Speaker 1: of plays against us when they only need a field goal? Right?

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Speaker 1: I just thought, I think what I was going to

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Speaker 1: time he deflects praise. Yeah, and he accepts blame, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Of course, so that and good

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Speaker 1: head coaches always do this, right, But I think in

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Speaker 1: that particular situation, he was maybe giving the players a

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Speaker 1: little more credit than he like for making the decision

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Speaker 1: that he made. I think it's true because it may

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Speaker 1: not necessarily have been the guys that you mentioned. It

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Speaker 1: might have been to his left tackles on the bench,

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Speaker 1: It might have been that Jared Goff is doing something different.

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Speaker 1: But I would suggest that the guys standing around him,

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Speaker 1: we're probably defensive guys or backups, well that we're saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: let's go out and win this football game. You'll have

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Speaker 1: every confidence in your call, or it is other guys

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Speaker 1: just because it's three guys, and you think those three

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Speaker 1: I mean. But there are other guys like Rob Havenstein.

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Speaker 1: You know we talked to him in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Did you see his want? Robstein was as fired up

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Speaker 1: as I've ever seen Rob Havenstein. After they made that Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he makes the block, they pick it up, clearly, he

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Speaker 1: gets up and throws the fist pump of a lifetime,

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Speaker 1: and I've never seen that. When he came into the

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Speaker 1: locker room after the game, screaming sneak for the win,

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Speaker 1: it looked like the Undertaker had just walked in from

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Speaker 1: psyched up he was. Yeah, I mean in those situations,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, and some coaches won't even care to read.

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Speaker 1: When your players know they can pick up that yard,

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Speaker 1: he'll punt, yeah, and regardless of how the game went,

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Speaker 1: they will lose confidence in you. We knew we could

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Speaker 1: pick this up, but you didn't even give us a

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Speaker 1: chance to do right. I'm glad that Sean McVay went

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Speaker 1: do it. I believe in them, and they picked it

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Speaker 1: up and won the game. Did you see golf after it? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is what happens when you make those calls. When

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Speaker 1: you hit it, yes, yes, exactly, all the pain goes away, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the ouys and alleys, and then the stuff you're

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Speaker 1: you hit it. It's always easier to correct after a

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Speaker 1: wining a loss, and that I think we all know that,

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Speaker 1: but I just I like the aggressiveness of that. I

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Speaker 1: like that. Now that's how you have said, we are

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Speaker 1: going to take this game and we are going to

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Speaker 1: be winners now of three of the last four in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: a notoriously difficult place to play. And I know that

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Speaker 1: you can go back and you say, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: one of those wins was when the franchise was a

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Speaker 1: different city and b had a different coaching staff, right,

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Speaker 1: But I think you still have a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Seattle for the first time since the two thou and

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Speaker 1: there and in consecutive years you defeat that team, and

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Speaker 1: not that we didn't kind of already know that know

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Speaker 1: this going in, but we know now that the NFC

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Speaker 1: maybe now that people in Seattle would agree with you,

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Speaker 1: maybe people on that team will agree with you, but

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Speaker 1: you still have another matchup with them, so it's not

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Speaker 1: just it's not over yet. And those things change real fast,

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Speaker 1: because I remember when the NFC West crowd used to

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Speaker 1: it's year to year the way it goes. But I

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Speaker 1: do remember watching the Rams beat the Seahawks. That's not new,

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Speaker 1: but I remember thinking, and probably the Seahawks did too,

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Speaker 1: you stole one from us. It's really fifteen. You didn't

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Speaker 1: I think that year they beat them. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: in some years like oh yeah, like if in Saint Louis,

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Speaker 1: it was Chris Gibbins right right that point. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: You're actually giving you a chance to probably win the

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Speaker 1: game if you don't, if we don't pick this up. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they can drive down few win the game. Absolutely, that's

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Speaker 1: a challenge. And they won. Yeah, So it's that was

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Speaker 1: the same. It was about the same heartbreak as getting

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Speaker 1: stomped last season, scoring forty two points, blowing them out.

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Speaker 1: I bet this one hurts worse. It might. Ye were

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Speaker 1: right there. You had a chance to win it at

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Speaker 1: three or four in Seattle. So one of those guys,

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Speaker 1: as he gets his one hundredth start. He's played for

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Speaker 1: the Rams going back years and years and years. He's

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Speaker 1: seen some stuff. Yeah he found some good glue, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty well exactly. So I just want to read what

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Speaker 1: he said. And so when I asked about winning three

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Speaker 1: think that this just continues the rivalry. These guys weren't here,

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Speaker 1: meaning his teammates now in LA But I remember the

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Speaker 1: days when Golden Tate used to taunt us before he

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Speaker 1: got into the end zone. Yeah, I remember the days

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Speaker 1: when we had to close. We had the close games

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Speaker 1: in the Edward Jones Dome. And you can say this

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Speaker 1: weighs in my decision of what I think about this team,

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Speaker 1: meaning Seattle. But at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 1: knew it was going to be a tough and physical game.

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Speaker 1: We had to overcome a lot of adversity in this one,

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Speaker 1: and I think that speaks volumes. Yeah, our team. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad the youngsters that are getting in on this

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Speaker 1: because it sucks when you're coming in from the bottom. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I know, we hate them, but we just

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Speaker 1: can't beat them. So you have to stay with that

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Speaker 1: feeling for a long time. Is that how it felt

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Speaker 1: with San Francisco part of your career, Dude, It's like

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Speaker 1: you you started out six feet under, right, and then

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Speaker 1: at the top or the bottom. Yes, that's just the

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Speaker 1: way it goes. Yeah, it is. So the same question

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Speaker 1: Just quickly to update on Cup. And because their status,

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Speaker 1: How in the hell was that hit on Brandon Cooke's

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that Day went to

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Speaker 1: him three straight plays basically right at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: that half, and I think another guy who got reps

426
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Speaker 1: last year, right, Yeah, it's a show's confidence in the

427
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Speaker 1: fact that, Okay, you know you've you've lost two of

428
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Speaker 1: your top three wide receivers, and you know that Robert

429
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Speaker 1: Wood is probably gonna have to have a bag half

430
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 1: in order for the Ramps to win that game. However,

431
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: you still have enough confidence in the guy that's coming

432
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Speaker 1: off the bench to say, look, we're going to you. Man,

433
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Speaker 1: They're not going to probably think that we're going to you,

434
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Speaker 1: but we are, and you need to make the place

435
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Speaker 1: and he did. I had a vision of him going

436
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Speaker 1: off in like late in November December, like just bursting

437
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Speaker 1: onto the scene because you don't have a lot of

438
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: tape on him, and then all of a sudden. Now

439
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 1: they've got four receivers. You're having a tough time covering

440
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: up three, and then you add this fourth. That's a

441
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Speaker 1: matchup problem too. Well, you don't have enough corners, right, Yeah,

442
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: I could imagine him exploding. Well, if it has to

443
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: happen sooner than so be it. But he's got reps,

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Speaker 1: he's got the ability, and like you said, he's got

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Speaker 1: the trust of the staff and the quarterback. Yeah, it

446
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: was good to see that from him. Also. Hodge then

447
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: also getting out on the field, had a big, big

448
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Speaker 1: play and what they call all the second and long

449
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: so it's the get back on track play. Yeah, so

450
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: you've got like second and nine or longer, and then

451
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: Jared Goff goes to his left and then finds Hodge

452
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Speaker 1: for that big fourteen yard game for a first down.

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Speaker 1: You've been around him Hodge, Yes, does he smile? I

454
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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, he's busy. He's at work. I love

455
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: that dude. Yeah, I mean literally, he's bringing his lunch

456
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Speaker 1: pail every day. Yeah, he's here to work. I like

457
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: that guy. The lunch pail reference. I always love the

458
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: lunch paie back. You know what he is. I know

459
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Speaker 1: what you mean. But I love that about that guy. Absolutely.

460
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Speaker 1: You know what's kind of funny. And I was talking

461
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: to this about this, I should say, with a couple

462
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: of people who work here. There is a Los Angeles

463
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Speaker 1: ram who is leading the yards passing right now in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. There's a I mean golf, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is leading whatnow, he's leading the league in yards passing?

466
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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? It's not wrong, it's just weird.

467
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Speaker 1: Why is that weird? It's because please explain this weirdness. Well,

468
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: because this is my fifth year covering this team, and

469
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Speaker 1: like then, there in the first three years of covering, Oh,

470
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Speaker 1: you've never seen this before, I've never seen Oh I've

471
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: seen I've seen this a few seen it. Yeah. When

472
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Speaker 1: you were a part of this, you'll love the ending.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, trust me. Yes, well I hope it

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Speaker 1: ends in that way. But it's it's great. It's great

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Speaker 1: to see how how much golf has progressed. I think

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Speaker 1: just being in the second year of a system like nobody,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's probably hard to own under or

478
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just probably hard to overstate the

479
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Speaker 1: importance of what being in the second year of an

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Speaker 1: offensive system can do. For a young quarterback, you know

481
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Speaker 1: what I mean, and being in the right system, right,

482
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Speaker 1: having all the continuity that the Rams have had in

483
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: this offense, like you're not learning new people, you're not

484
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Speaker 1: learning a new system. If this is we are picking

485
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Speaker 1: up where we left off and we're getting better, And

486
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: that to me is a bigger reason why you see

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Speaker 1: golf in so many like the top two, top three

488
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Speaker 1: in so many categories of offensive passing statistics. You know,

489
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: it was funny getting ready for the coaches show me

490
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Speaker 1: JB the normal cast. We're sitting there waiting for Sean

491
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Speaker 1: McVay right behind us as Drew Brees getting ready to

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Speaker 1: set a record. And the first thing that popped in

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Speaker 1: my head is, I wonder, if we stay in this

494
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Speaker 1: long enough, is Jared gonna be chasing those numbers? And

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Speaker 1: then I wrote an article this morning they say passing

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Speaker 1: yards or through the roof, and they are yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you may see at some point, if Goff and McVay

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Speaker 1: continue to grow in this offense and they get better

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Speaker 1: and better and better, I wouldn't be surprised if he's

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Speaker 1: threatening records. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking records are gonna fall in this era. Yeah, yes, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: especially if you have quarterback and coach pairings like Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton and Drew Brees. That's one of the best of

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Speaker 1: all time in terms of melding a system with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that fits it deftely, you know. I mean, some

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Speaker 1: people talk about Walsh and Montana. That's definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the great ones. Belich. I can, Brady, you can talk

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Speaker 1: all you one about that, but I think just in

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Speaker 1: terms of a coach and a player going out there

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Speaker 1: and setting records, no doubt like and being consistent on offense,

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Speaker 1: I should say right on the same page offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever been a duo better than

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Speaker 1: Breeze and Peyton. Don't think so. I mean I could.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw out McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: on the same page. But I know where you're going.

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Speaker 1: We're a quarterback and coach and play caller are on

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Speaker 1: the same page. Yes, I mean, and I think that

518
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Speaker 1: is what you're building here, or at least at the

519
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Speaker 1: embryo stage of I would agree with that, and usually

520
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: records fall when you have guys like that. Absolutely, between

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Speaker 1: these two guys that are here, and then you know,

522
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: there's only been five games of this in this season.

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Speaker 1: But in Kansas City we have somebody like Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. It's just it looks like I wish

525
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Speaker 1: you would have met him. Yeah, I wish Mahomes would

526
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: have met Read a little bit like when he was younger. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. I think the only thing

528
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff in this offense, let's just say, when

529
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Speaker 1: they're functioning at on all cylinders and just rolling, and

530
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: they never were against Minnesota and they never lose another guy,

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Speaker 1: the only thing that stops him from like breaking records

532
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Speaker 1: is a two thousand yard rushing season. I'm seriously, that's

533
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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I mean in this

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Speaker 1: offense with the weapons he has and they're on the

535
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Speaker 1: cutting edge of things. Yeah, get used to seeing this

536
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: for a while. Miles, Yeah, no, no, you're right. But

537
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Speaker 1: it's interesting right now. As I said, Golf top of

538
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Speaker 1: the leaderboard in the league seventeen twenty seven terms of yards,

539
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Speaker 1: it's number two in completion percentage behind that guy. We're

540
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Speaker 1: just talking about degrees seventy two point three percent. This

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Speaker 1: pass has been complete number two in passer rating one

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Speaker 1: hundred nineteen point seven and number two in yards per ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah at ten point four, which is a very very

544
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Speaker 1: very big number if you're averaging ten point for years,

545
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: no doubt. And he's only been sacked what six times? Yeah? Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: he's very stingy with his body. I love it. Yeah, No,

547
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: only that. Like Johnny Hecker, I think is punt in

548
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: nine times? Good? Absolutely? Yeah, Johnny's fun to talk to

549
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: you on the sideline. I bet yeah. I like him.

550
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: Is he bored? Not bored? He's as into it as anybody,

551
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: But you better put McQuaid out there. That's a dude

552
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: that needs to go hit somebody a lot. Yeah. Yeah,

553
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: well he gets bored like he may hit you. I

554
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: think that you almost need to start calling him holder

555
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker because that's what he's doing much more often

556
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: than punting. I just love watching those guys. I could

557
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: tell what's going on in the field just by watching

558
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: them seriously, because they're warming up the punt, warm up

559
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: the punt, then all of a sudden they switch they're

560
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: warming up for a field goal. Okay, that's we just

561
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: moved in the store and the Yeah, it's funny, that's

562
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: how it works. Yeah, credit to Kiro Santos for coming

563
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: back from the missed extra point hitting that game winning

564
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: field goal. We'll see as the week progresses if Gregg's

565
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: are aligne can come back. But the part of the

566
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: reason they signed Cairo Santos in the first place was

567
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: to not have to rush. Greggs are a line, right, um,

568
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Speaker 1: field goals. Place kicking it is what it is. Placekicking

569
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Speaker 1: in the NFL has been an adventure this year. It

570
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: really really, I don't know why. Yeah, that's things happen

571
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: in the league. They're like vi and it's affecting Pek's

572
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: right now. But place kicking is one thing, but kickoffs

573
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: you can't give people short fields. Yep. Yeah, you just

574
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: can't do it, especially on the road. Agreed. Yeah, it's

575
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: hard enough for Russell Wilson to go from twenty to twenty. Well,

576
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: don't give him the fifty, right, Yeah, don't give case

577
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Keenum any more opportunities than he's going to have normally,

578
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: especially up there in Denver. Yes, yeah, you've got to

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00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: get that part straightened out. Yes, all right, So before

580
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: we take it to the defense, and do you want

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Speaker 1: my Bows head. Do you really, literally every day do

589
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Speaker 1: you rock out on the way home? Like, how do

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Speaker 1: you come down? Again? I don't necessarily roll out, but

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00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: what I'll do is I will have, First of all,

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Speaker 1: entering clearance centers for helping me out with that as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: but after that then it's music time. And you know,

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: so a lot of the time, if I've really got

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Speaker 1: to get something done, we'll turn on Innervisions by Stevie

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Speaker 1: Wonder Nice. That entire album Nice. That is like really

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Speaker 1: really it really doesn't qualify as rocking out though, No,

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, but that's what you asked. How I

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Speaker 1: like how I get things done? On I said, do

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00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: you rock out? The answer would have been known, No,

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00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: I know, because I'm rock out more or less on

603
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the way there, like on the plane or if like

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00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I'll rock out on the way from this the hotel

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00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: to the stadium. Okay, that's where I rock out with

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: my bows head. I just got to block out the

607
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: noise for a hot minute and just like review in

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00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: my head what I just saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

609
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: and and reconcile some of the feelings, like like like

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00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: going back to that fourth down play the end of

611
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: the game, when I saw the team or the trot team,

612
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: the punt team trout out there, like WHOA wait a

613
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: minute now? Team pump out there. Well, when I saw

614
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: the punt team roll out, I'm like, WHOA wait a

615
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: minute now? And then when they made the flop, I'm like, okay,

616
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: that's It was just such an interesting sequence because at first,

617
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: you do you have the punt team that starts to

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00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: go out there, and then Pete Carroll calls the time out,

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Speaker 1: and then it was funny hearing some of the Seattle

620
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: reporters talk after the games were like waiting for the elevator,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, I keep getting tweets about people being mad.

622
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Pet tut of course he used the time out if

623
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: it would have been bad football to not use the timeout.

624
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: I thought maybe earlier in that drive you had an

625
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to stop the clock. But you know, in that situation,

626
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: you really weren't going to get the ball back, right, Yeah.

627
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: And also I don't know how much you were able

628
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: to see it from where you were, but that second

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Speaker 1: and eight or second and seven play where Girly runs

630
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: it to the left, that looked, at least from the

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Speaker 1: what I saw, that he got that first or the

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00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: first down. Yes, yeah, I thought that there should have

633
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Speaker 1: been at least some kind of review. And I think

634
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 1: that New York kind of dropped the ball on that

635
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: one because to me it looked like he got it

636
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: on that play. Yeah, and then we wouldn't even have

637
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: had the discussion about the fourth and one. So maybe

638
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: it's better not throwing anybody under the bus more than

639
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: we've already done about officiating. And I hate even doing it,

640
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: but look, everybody should be held to the same standard.

641
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: The standard is the standard, Yeah, I mean everybody. Look,

642
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: if you make a mistake on defense, if you get

643
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: caught looking at corner, you get beat for a touchdown.

644
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: If you get caught looking the wrong way and blitz protection,

645
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: your quarterback pace for it. Then everyone should be held

646
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: accountable for a wrong spot, especially when it's obvious. Yeah, yeah,

647
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: that was huge. It was Yeah, it was huge because

648
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: it could have changed the entire complexion of the game.

649
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: And we all know that the Rams really we're kind

650
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: of struggling on defense, right, I mean, especially in the

651
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: run game. So you're not necessarily going to be running

652
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: at that point in the game. But I do want

653
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: to talk about the run defense because when you give

654
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: up one hundred and ninety yards on thirty two carries, yeah,

655
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: five point nine yards per carry, you got to improve

656
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: on well. I mean, I hope people didn't think that

657
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: the Rams are We're gonna go up to Seattle and

658
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: absolutely stimy stemming the Seahawks on the run. This has

659
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: been the rest the best run team in the NFL.

660
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: The last three weeks. They have redoubled, renewed their efforts

661
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: into running the football. This is how they're staying in games.

662
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: So you knew they were going to run it. Now

663
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: some of the stuff is correctable. It is You've got

664
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: to get off blocks faster upfront. We all know this.

665
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: Disengage and make the play or we don't miss tackles. Okay,

666
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we all know this and that it's

667
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: that's I don't think we all know that. What do

668
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: you mean we? You and me? I think know that,

669
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think that the general public is really

670
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't want well settle. Their whole game plan offensively

671
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: is to run the ball. Yeah, they're going to have

672
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: success with it. If you spend that much time trying

673
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: to run the ball in the National Football League, you'll

674
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: find holes. Right, That's just the way it goes, right, Yeah.

675
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: So but I think and if the other side of

676
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball is turning it over, you have more opportunities

677
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: to run, right. Yeah. Yeah, that's another thing, and we

678
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: sort of missed that on the offensive part. But I

679
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: do want to go back to it for just a second.

680
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: When you have McBay said that he wants to start

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: learning his lessons better of what plays in the red zone.

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: So you know, you call that passing play when it's

683
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I think second and goal from the two, and after

684
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley had just gotten you three to five yards

685
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: on first down. Basically, I think he's saying we should

686
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: have just run Todd Gurley there, and then if that happens,

687
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: you probably get a touchdown and then you don't have

688
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks getting an extra possession. So that's one thing, right.

689
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: But yes, to get back to the run defense, I

690
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: think right now the Rams, Yes, you've given up thirty

691
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: one points in two straight games. I think it's important

692
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: to note that have you've really been able to tighten

693
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: down in the fourth quarter. The Rams have not given

694
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: up a fourth quarter touchdown all season long, so that's important. However,

695
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: when your defense is twenty ninth in the league giving

696
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: up five yards per carry, you got to make some

697
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: changes and correct that, no doubt. And I think the

698
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: changes are probably in technique and probably just a group

699
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: that needs to come together a little bit more, Okay,

700
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: And when you think about it, I mean, you lost

701
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: to lead, you got Peter's back quickly, very quickly, You're

702
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: you had to rotate Baron in there. So I mean

703
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: there's it's not excuses, but there's still this defense is

704
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: still coming together, right, It's not a finished product just yet.

705
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: But like you said, when they do play it right,

706
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: like in Seattle, when they play it correctly, the ball

707
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: goes nowhere. Right. When there's a mistake up front, usually

708
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: the running back finds it right, or the quarterback finds it,

709
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: and then it gets corrected and you go back out

710
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: and you either shut them down or get the ball back.

711
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: That's just the way defense is. But this is still

712
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: an ongoing process with that side of the ball. I

713
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: think it's important to note that you're integrating as many

714
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: new starters as you are, and you've still got guys

715
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: who aren't necessarily playing the positions they've always played in

716
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: the past. Talking about Donkins Sue right, and you're integrating

717
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: Samson a becomes still Corey Littleton is still becoming the

718
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: signal caller. He's played very very well. I wonder where

719
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: he would be, just Sampson epcom if he made every

720
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: tackle attempt, like if he didn't miss a tackle, right,

721
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: where would he be on the tackles yards for first

722
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: tackles for loss? Right? Yeah? No, And that's that, I

723
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: think is exactly what you're talking with. You've got to

724
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: make the plays when they're available to be made, right,

725
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: because it's not always a scheme thing. It's just execution right, right,

726
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: It's just some people are learning positions, some people are

727
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: getting used to it, and you know, the other team

728
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: makes place too. But I mean, it's not like you're

729
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: getting run over or you're getting out schemed to where

730
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: the ball's getting outside and it seems like you're playing

731
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: with nine. That's not the situation. I would agree with that. Yeah,

732
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: some things are just breaking through, right. The things that

733
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: I think are more or less concerning is when you

734
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: have third and three or shorter right and then they're

735
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: running it up the middle and they get twenty yards,

736
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards, things like that. You know, they had

737
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: I think five situations where it was third and three

738
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: or fewer. They ran the ball four times and they

739
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: got four conversions upon those plays. So that's the kind

740
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: of stuff you've got to tighten up, true and give

741
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: that credit to the offensive line too. That's the one

742
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: thing that they did do we talked about before that

743
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: up in Seattle, was they had some continuity. This is

744
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: their best five group, five men, this is their best

745
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: line company combination, and they've been playing well, and they

746
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: played it. I think they hit the rams for like

747
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: three or four traps in the middle where they trapped Aaron.

748
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: So with good running backs, so whenever that's your game plan,

749
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna find holes. Increases yeah, and those backs

750
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: are pretty good. They're better than advertised. No, No, they

751
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: definitely are, and that's why they've run the ball as

752
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: well as they have the last few weeks. And that

753
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: little variable and quarterback called Russell Wilson is a problem.

754
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: You also have to watch him. Yeah, there's a lot

755
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: going on up there. Yeah. Yeah, So again I think

756
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: the Rams have got to tighten that up. And it's

757
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: notable the Rams are allowing six point seven yards per

758
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: carry in the second half of games, So especially thinking

759
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: about this Denver team that wants to run the ball,

760
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: that does run the ball effectively, tighten that up, you

761
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: have to, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah, past defense though, So

762
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: what I saw a stat this week that is pretty crazy.

763
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: So the Rams are getting pressure basically better than any

764
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: team in the league right now. They have the highest

765
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: pressure rate and that I saw this from the Twitter

766
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: of the ESPN NFL matchup show, Right, So they tweet

767
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: out a bunch of stats. They're good guys, So they

768
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: tweet out that the Rams have the best pressure rate

769
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: in the league. Okay, but then also if you look

770
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: at the Rams and how they and how teams are

771
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: stopping third down, like third and long third and summer longer.

772
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: The Rams are the worst in the league right now,

773
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: and they're giving up fifty percent of those opportunities. If

774
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: those two numbers just seem incongrus right, Yeah, you're getting

775
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: good pressure, butcher giving up first downs? Right? Yeah? And

776
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: they didn't tweet these things out at the same time.

777
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: Is that a nice way of saying the secondary needs

778
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: to step up? I don't know what it is. No,

779
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, you look at the

780
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: off schedule plays that Russell Wilson was making in last

781
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: week's game, and not everything was off schedule like that.

782
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: The the long touchdown to Lockette that was pretty on

783
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: schedule and it was a very good throw. However, I'd

784
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: never say his name Lockette. I thought it was just Lockett. Yeah,

785
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: I thought I was wrong. I don't know. I guess

786
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I called it wrong. I called him by it like

787
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: a different name to his face. Wow, is it Lockette?

788
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it might be locked it to me again,

789
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: See it's Locket. Okay, anyway, go ahead? Number sixteen for

790
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: the the little guy that can run. Yeah, the little

791
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: guy that can run that went to Kansas State. Yeah,

792
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: that he's pretty good, and that was an on schedule play,

793
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: but there are other plays where it's like Nick Vanette,

794
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: are you trying to look for his name just to

795
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: make sure it's right here? O l O c k

796
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: E T T lock it Lockett anyway, go ahead, moum

797
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: on tomano Tomato. Let's call the old M. But my

798
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: point is those two numbers are are so starkly different,

799
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: and you would think that if the Rams are getting

800
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: that are getting that much pressure, they should be better

801
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: on third down. I don't know what it needs. What

802
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: you need to do to be better on third down

803
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: maybe not just pressure bring down the quarterback with sacks.

804
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: But then you also have to say, okay, well they

805
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: got like I think two or three sacks that were

806
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: wiped away because of defensive penalties. Sue had one, long

807
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Acre had one. I don't know what the biggest deal is,

808
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: but you've got to get off the field on third down.

809
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: It's all together. I mean, you don't want to be divisive,

810
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes those stats can be divisive because that's a

811
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: way of saying that you need to cover better. But

812
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: but I would argue that the pass rush and it's

813
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: been great, but sometimes they lose content on the quarterback,

814
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: which puts the secondary at risk. Yes, so what's good

815
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: for the goose is good for the gander. Whatever it is.

816
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: If you're getting great pressure sent up coverage, you'll get

817
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: off the field more, right. Yes, If you're not getting

818
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: good pressure, then you need to sends up coverage and

819
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: get off the field more their way. You just got

820
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: to make more play. I agree with you. Yeah, And

821
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, maybe it's more rushing from

822
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: the edge. Do you think that the Rams have got

823
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: to get better pressure from the edge? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah,

824
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's it's not like anybody's threatening

825
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: von Miller on this team. Now, so far so far, right,

826
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean developing into a great pass rusher on the outside. Okay,

827
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: we'll see. We're still waiting inside. I think you have

828
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: that already. I think with Aaron Donald with and Dominican Sue,

829
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: you're getting instant pressure up the gut. Now outside, I

830
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: still think you're looking for that guy or those guys. Yes,

831
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that you still can't get consistent

832
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: pressure from the outside, either schematically or just guys doing

833
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: their job right. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.

834
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: Or you have in certain situations where you have that

835
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: four man front, you put Sue on the outside, and

836
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: then he beats whoever he has to beat and then

837
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: he gets another sack. He's done that three straight weeks. Yeah,

838
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: so that's another way for the Rams to get pressure

839
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: in terms of edge rushing. Yeah, and I like that

840
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: better when it's a surprise because it seems like Seattle

841
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: had a plan for it when they saw him out there. Okay, yeah,

842
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: well maybe the first time, but then like if you

843
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: if you put Nick Vanette out there and you're trying

844
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: to block Sue who's in a Y nine technique, it's

845
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: not gonna work. Good luck. Yeah, exactly, so, and that's

846
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: why Sue gets in there for the Russell Wolf No, okay, yes, um.

847
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: But I think just in terms of that edge pressure,

848
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: that's one of these topics where you know, now I'm

849
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: getting tweets that are like the Rams need more edges,

850
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: like are they gonna trade? Are they gonna trade? I

851
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: don't see that tweets now, Yeah, where you've been sorry,

852
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: we've been talking about this since training and you're now

853
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: getting no I'm saying. I'm just saying that it's a

854
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: big topic this week, Like in terms of the mail

855
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: in a coma just saying, in terms of the mail,

856
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: bad question got this week. A lot of them were

857
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: about edge rushing and edge pressure and whether or not

858
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: we think that the Rams will make a trade. I

859
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: don't see a trade happening because, look, there are no board.

860
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: What are you trading for? Like, what are you going

861
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: to trade? Right? What are you going to trade? Be?

862
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: Who are you going to trade for? See who's going

863
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: to trade with you? You know what I'm saying, Like,

864
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: at this point, it's not that ratchet up the voltage

865
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: on the cattle pride and get more out of the

866
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: guys you had, right, Yes, I think that that's what's

867
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen because there's no other Khalil Max on the

868
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: market and there are no other teams like the Oakland

869
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Raiders who are going to deal away arguably their best player,

870
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, right. But so if Khalil Mack is on

871
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: the move, just saying we wouldn't be interested. Everybody was interested,

872
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: including the Los Angeles Do you want to be that crazy?

873
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean there were their reports and in the LA

874
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: Times think Gary absolutely were very interested. The Broncos would

875
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: be interested, and they have Von Miller right, that's how

876
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: good he is. Yes, exactly so. Just but in terms

877
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: of edge pressure overall, the Rams only have ten sacks

878
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: right now, so it's sort of that bottom third of

879
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah. That again, it's something that they need

880
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: to get better at. That's all. That's the kind of

881
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: last no doublets absolutely all right, So let's preview the

882
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. And the first thing we're gonna do, we're

883
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna see our old friend Case Keenum. Nice about that, Yeah, yeah,

884
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: have you seen him play? It's it's classic Case, meaning

885
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: what there's there's there's some brilliance there and then there's

886
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: some head scratching moments. Yeah. Um, it's a hell of

887
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: a rollercoaster ride. Yeah, a little bit better than the

888
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford experience. Okay, yeah, I mean the Bradford experience

889
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: just always ended in disappointment. This at least, I mean,

890
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: at least Case keeps it exciting. You know, he does

891
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: keep it exciting, he does. He keeps it fun. Absolutely.

892
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: I always liked Case. I enjoyed covering Case a good guy. Um,

893
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: it was good to see him have that success that

894
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: he had last year in Minnesota, especially with the way

895
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: everything working route exactly. Um. He right now is at

896
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: five touchdowns the seven interceptions, and he's also fumbled three times. UM.

897
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: But fortunately for Denver they've recovered all three of those fumbles.

898
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: What I think you said, it's true. And watching the

899
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: games I watched over the course of the week, it's

900
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: like sometimes Case Keenum is right there on it, and

901
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: other times it's just like, oh goodness, Case, what are

902
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: you doing? Man? You know, the last throw he made

903
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: it the game, well, second last way he made it

904
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: the game against Kansas City. I'm not football a couple

905
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Yeah, he's got that guy. I think

906
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: it was Damarius Thomas open on the right sideline. That's

907
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: a touchdown that beats Kansas City at that point, and

908
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: he missed him. He missed him. Yeah, okay, So and

909
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: then you try to hook and ladder play on the

910
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: next one and then they fumble it and about being

911
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: Bata boom Kansas City win. You know, I was thinking

912
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: about this UM on the way over and last night.

913
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: It's just I would like to be a running back

914
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: or an offensive lineman. With Case Keenum as a quarterback.

915
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I want to be a receiver. Okay, Yeah,

916
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be able to run the ball, and

917
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna run the ball and offensive linemen like that.

918
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: And it was fun standing out there watching Case be

919
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback, and I got to see it from

920
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: field level because I'd said this a couple of times.

921
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes I can't see him, like the scrum gets it

922
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: gets so thick in front of him that I lose sight.

923
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: Of long time listeners of the Between the Horns podcast

924
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: may remember, are you saying, and then all of a sudden,

925
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: the ball comes out right like a surprise, you can't

926
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: even see where it came from. Imagine being a receiver. Yeah, yeah,

927
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: you can't see when the ball's coming out. You can't

928
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: really get a read. You have to adjust when it's

929
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: in the air. It's it must be tough being a

930
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: receiver with Case keenom as quarterback. Yes, I wonder what

931
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: that team just is gonna do in general at quarterback,

932
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously passon Lynch didn't work out there.

933
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: Now you have Chad Kelly who is your backup to

934
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Case Keenum. And if Case Keenum continues to turn the

935
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: ball over, well that's gonna be a problem going forward,

936
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, look, I don't think all of

937
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Denver's problems you can place on just one guy, for sure.

938
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a few things going on up there

939
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: and that's their problem, like, um, the run defense. There's

940
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on up there right now.

941
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of negative stuff coming out

942
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: of Denver by way of press. Yes, and not all

943
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: of it has to do with xes and os. Yes. Yeah,

944
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: so a lot of teams go through that. The Rams

945
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: went through that a few times. Yeah, yeah, so it

946
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: is what it is. But on the field, they've got

947
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: some players that can hurt you. They do. Yeah, well,

948
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: both of their running backs in terms of Philip Lindsay

949
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: and Royce Freeman, both rookies, but they're both playing very well.

950
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: They's the undrafted guy, right, Yes, I love that. Yeah,

951
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: I do too. You know watching him, you see him,

952
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: he just runs really hard. Yeah, it just hits the

953
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: hole and he runs it. Well, absolutely he You ever

954
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: heard burning the Ships no sun Zoo. Somebody was asking

955
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: me this week, like Miles, it seems like sometimes once

956
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: a show you get baffled by DeMarco's. DeMarco is ms,

957
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: oh this is this is this is where I am

958
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: right now. Burning ship. You never heard burning ships? Like

959
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: if if you're coming to attack or take over a

960
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: country and you have to go buy boat when you

961
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: get there, burn the ships, which means there is no retreat.

962
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: You burn your own ships somebody else's. We're here to

963
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: win or we die. Okay, that's another way of saying that.

964
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: That's the way that kid runs the ball. He is

965
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: hell bent for leather. I love it. Yeah, he is

966
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: playing for keeps. Yes, Yeah, he's playing a different brand

967
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: of ball than a lot of other people on the

968
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: fields with him. That's why I like him. Okay, so

969
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: far he's rushed for three hundred and twenty eight yards

970
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: on fifty seven carries, averaging five point eight yards per carry.

971
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: And then Freeman is average is getting two hundred and

972
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: fifty yards on forty nine carries, three touchdowns, averaging five

973
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: point one. That would be number twenty four, twenty eight. Yeah,

974
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: when he comes in, he's a monster. Yeah. There's some

975
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: good running backs and you know, a good good offensive line. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

976
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: I mean that's Denver. You know, I'm going back to

977
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: the days of Mike Shanahan with John Elway. They always play,

978
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: they always have good running games. Yeah, they always do

979
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: good running games. Then matter whoever you plug there, it's

980
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna work. And good smart offensive linemen. Yeah yeah, So

981
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: right now they are number three in the league in

982
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: rushing six eighty five total yards and then five point

983
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: six yards per a tempt. So if you're looking at

984
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: that and that's tops in the league five point six

985
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: yards per ten and you're looking at the Rams who

986
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: are twenty ninth giving up five yards a carry, you

987
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: know their strategy is going to be, let's run the

988
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: ball because they don't seem to be able to stop it. Well,

989
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: that's what I can't wait to see because this will

990
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: be a little bit different than what you saw in

991
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Seattle because Russell Wilson is such a run threat, like

992
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: he's actually in the run game. Yes, this might be

993
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: a little bit different case Kingdom can scramble, he can

994
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: make plays with his legs, no doubt, that's different. That's

995
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: a different animal than facing a dual threat quarterback. Right,

996
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: so this will be a more traditional smash mouth off.

997
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: Fair So, I wonder how I think the Rams will

998
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: fare better against this running game than they did against Seattle.

999
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I think that that's fair in terms of the other

1000
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball for the Broncos defense having a

1001
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: tough time stopping the run. Three hundred twenty three yards

1002
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: rushing surrendered versus the Jets last week. That's a lot

1003
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: saw that, Yeah, a lot of miss tackles. Yeah, And

1004
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: they had some schematic problems where it seemed like they

1005
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: were miss a line or couldn't get the line, and

1006
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: running backs were just you know, running through wide open

1007
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: holes right, or the free hitter was on the wrong

1008
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: side of the of the of the formation. So those

1009
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: sort of things tend to put you on Sports Center

1010
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: with big rushing days. But like anything else, when they

1011
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: did play it right, they have some big guys, some

1012
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: prideful guys that can stack it up. As a matter

1013
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: of fact, I love their nose tackle Pecco. Yeah, twelve years,

1014
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: thirteen years, never been to a Pro Bowl, really, it

1015
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: had never been to a Pro Bowl. And the guy

1016
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: is just he's great at what he does. He is

1017
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: an a gap run stuffing guy. He's good. This will

1018
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: be a good challenge for for Sullivan this week. Can

1019
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: you handle this run thug by yourself? We'll see, Yeah,

1020
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: and the Rams are going to need to do that,

1021
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: especially given the weather report. It's gonna be cold. Have

1022
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: you've seen this, DeMarco? Like the last time I checked,

1023
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: it was like thirty as a high God, what's wrong

1024
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: with you? Guys? Who cares? That's all I've heard about

1025
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: is the weather for the last two and a half days.

1026
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Who cares? I don't know. I'm just thinking I don't know.

1027
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: Because here's why I think it's it's it's at least

1028
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: a deal, maybe not a big deal or a little

1029
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: I think it's something. Yeah, you have to think about

1030
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna play in a practice I should say,

1031
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: in seventy to eighty degree weather this week, and then

1032
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: you're going to go to a place that that's gonna

1033
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: be fifty degrees colder than that, right, And they have

1034
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: an advantage because they're in it right for most of that.

1035
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: That's the only thing, the only reason why I think

1036
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: it's somewhat significant. I just I've heard it these these

1037
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: little group chats or text messages, and all they keep

1038
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: talking about is weather. It's going to be cold, it's

1039
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: going to be cold, it's going to be cool. That's

1040
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: because people in southern California are obsessed with weather. It's

1041
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: football season. Man, you're gonna hit cold weather at something.

1042
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Don't be shocked. Bring along underwear and let's yeah, I'll

1043
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: go to that storage unit and pick that out, thank

1044
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: you very much. But this is offensive lineman weather. Yeah,

1045
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: this is this is the BIG's weather. When it gets

1046
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: cold upfront, this is where the big start to step

1047
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: up and play that big bully game. This is where

1048
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: Jackie Slayer comes around and rip sleeves offs. Yeah, it

1049
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: just gets mean and nasty. Absolutely. Yeah. Being a defensive

1050
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: player when when it's cold sucks. Being an offensive player,

1051
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: especially on the old line. You're right at home, right, yeah,

1052
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: because you're going to run the ball. I think Todd

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00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Gurley is going to get a good amount of touches

1054
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Speaker 1: in this game, obviously. I mean for obviously. Look, look

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00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: if they if Denver can't stop the run like they

1056
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run last week against New York, this game,

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Speaker 1: like you were saying about last week's game, this game's

1058
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna be over and hurry, you know, as long as

1059
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: you play your best game and you don't turn the

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00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: ball over. If you don't turn the ball over, and

1061
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: you stay and I hate to keep over using the

1062
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: stay on schedule, stay ahead of the chains and let

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00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: this game play out like it should. I think the

1064
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Rams are better than the Broncos. Yes, than Todd Gurley,

1065
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: than whomever. Whatever game plan you have that day will

1066
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: have success. But if you're short circuiting yourself with turnovers

1067
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and you're giving the ball to them on short fields

1068
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: and you're taxing your defense, well you can make any

1069
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: team into a great contender for the day, Yes, and

1070
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: make any game into a dog fight. Yes, exactly. If

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00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: the Rams are playing their game and they're not turning

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00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: the ball over like you said, and they're they're not

1073
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: committing pre snap penalties, you're getting holding calls or you know,

1074
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: shooting yourself in the foot, then yes, you should be

1075
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: able to go out and executing and do what you

1076
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: need to do. And it's not and I don't think

1077
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: it's any disrespects to somebody like Von Miller, who is

1078
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: one of the best edge rushers in the entire National

1079
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Football League. Got another guy over there, Bradley Chubb, rookie,

1080
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: he's coming on. Shane Ray is another guy that they

1081
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: can rotate in pass rushers. But the way to negate

1082
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: that is through a good running game. And that's exactly

1083
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: what you saw with the Jets last week, no doubt.

1084
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: And but look, you're gonna have to come hard down

1085
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: the hard road at some point because they are going

1086
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: to stop the run in certain situations and it's going

1087
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: to be third a mile and you're gonna have to

1088
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: find ways to block Von Miller. Yes, So whoever lines

1089
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: up with that responsibility, accept it, assume it, and go

1090
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: out and do your best. Right. Yeah, he's one of

1091
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: the best pass rushers out there. But it's not like

1092
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: he can't be blocked, right, at least for this play.

1093
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: He's only he only has four sacks, has not only

1094
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not like

1095
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: he's getting a sack on every path. No, no, but

1096
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: I love it. He reminds me. Did you ever get

1097
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: to see Derek Thomas play? I don't think so. He's

1098
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: like Derek Thomas reincarnated when he played for the Chiefs.

1099
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: He does this thing I call I call it drift

1100
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: and dash. Okay, he's so quick off the edge and

1101
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: he's so much of a threat that you have to

1102
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: honor that the tackle or whoever's blocking him is going

1103
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: to keep his eyes on him, on Von Miller. So

1104
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: what he'll do is just run you beyond the quarterback

1105
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: until the quarterback is standing right here, and just dart

1106
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: right back in and make a play. And you never

1107
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: touched him. It's like, dang, I didn't even get a

1108
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: hand on him, right because he just baited you up

1109
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: the field. He's a dart, he's a drift guy and

1110
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: then dash. He's amazing. Yes, he can hurt you. Yeah,

1111
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: so the RAMS are definitely gonna have to prevent that.

1112
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: So any other parting shots before let that's it. We're

1113
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Speaker 1: done already. Yeah. Is that an hour? Almost fifty five minutes?

1114
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: I think, gosh, it's cold. It's gonna be cold in Denver.

1115
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Miles is worried. I am. I don't have Miles worried.

1116
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about your clothing options. Good lord, Miles,

1117
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I just don't happen where this. You'll be fine, No,

1118
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: I will not come on. You're supposed to be cold,

1119
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: it's the winter time, or good and close. Well, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how bundled up I am for RAMS pregame

1121
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: live you can check that out with the two of us.

1122
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: About twelve is going to be working sleeves a scarf.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing a jacket a hot pocket in this pocket

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00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: snow Yeah under way. Thank you guys so much for

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00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: treating the sedition of Between the Horns. Kickoff rams at

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00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Broncos on Fox at one o five specific time. Also

1127
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: catch the call on ESPN LA with Jblong, MJD and

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00:53:53,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: DeMarco far Enjoy the game Waterproof Timberlins right now