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Yeah, this is Tuesday morning 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: quarterback in the afternoon. 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: All right, Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon stuff we 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: might have missed on yesterday. What do you got there, 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Dan Byron, you're chump chumping at the bit. I can 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: just see it. 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: What do you got Doug? Yes, a bunch of things 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: on my mind. But first and foremost, the big news 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: of the last twenty four to forty eight hours was 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: the Titans firing of Brian Callahan as their head coach. 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: I know one Jason Stewart loves a bit of a 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: conspiracy theory or a different sort of maybe angle, But 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: I think it's easy to say, why did the Titans 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: do this? 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: Now? 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: Like why are they doing this after a one in 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: five start to the season. On the surface, he say well, 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: because they're one in five. They haven't been good. They 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: had a stinker of a game against the Raiders after 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: a miraculous win where really they only played a quarter 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: of good football against the Arizona Cardinals. That's the reason 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 3: why Brian Callahan was dismissed. I think you could also 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: say Brian Callahan has not acted like a head coach. 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: He's been snippy with reporters. He screamed at Will Levis 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: multiple times last year. Just was not of that head 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: coach ilk. I think that that is fair. But why now, 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: why after week six? Why when you have a buy 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: coming up in week ten where you could make a 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: transition and allow the interim to come in. Oh, I 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: know why. Because you don't want Mike Rabel and the 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: Patriots to go in and completely dominate your organization and 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: rub it in that they let him go a couple 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: of years ago for Brian Callahan, That's why they did 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: it this past week. There was some controversy that Titans 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: ownership was not at the press conference to announce the 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: dismissal of Brian Callahan yesterday, But it just seems funny. 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: With a stretch against New England, Indianapolis, and the Chargers, 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: and after you've been on the road for three straight 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: weeks that the Titans have that you finally get back 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: home and you say, hey, enough's enough, Brian Callahan, You're 66 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: not set for that job. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: No. 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: I think they didn't want to be embarrassed and have 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel and Mike Vrabel still may do it, but 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: dominate the guy that they had replace him in the 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: first place. I know that there's different people in different 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: places in the front office, but ultimately I think there's 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: a reason why ownership didn't show up yesterday, and that's 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: why I think Brian Callahan got fired after week six. 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot too that I was thinking 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: kind of the same thing yesterday, But I also thought 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: this to that end, Dan, don't you also think that 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel has offered up the kind of contrast that 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: led to the decision period Just take out the fact 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: that they played each other this week. That Mike Vrabel's 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: success ultimately led to Callahan's early dismissal. Because Vrabel is 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: doing amazing with a brand new team after five weeks 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: and Callahan's doing the opposite. I think it was baked 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: into the decision. 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: In other words, sure, that's absolutely fair, but I just 86 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: don't think it's a coincidence. These big moves are usually 87 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: made in different times and not to come off of 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: a three game road trip. By the way, if you 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: were to say to start this season, then you have 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: two games at home and you were one and five, 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, I could kind of see it. I'm 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: not saying that he deserved to keep his job. It's 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: just interesting the timing of it totally. 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your team, Dan, Right. The 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: one of the big signings in the offseason was Sam 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Donald moving the Seahawks, and because he's had such a 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: well traveled career, Right obviously failed with the Jets, didn't 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: last the early success, but ultimately I guess failure with Carolineaup, 99 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: back up with San Francisco, and then that huge year 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: last year, only to play poorly his last two games 101 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: with the Vikings. 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: There were a lot of. 103 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: People like, dude, Sam Donald's really a backup. He's a 104 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: product of Minnesota system. They're play calling, their coach, their personnel. 105 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: You watched every snap, so I don't. And he did 106 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: throw a big pick the week before, Right, he did 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: throw a big pick Now he got hit and hit 108 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: up a helmet and there's some bad luck. But I 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: mean Sam Donald threw not through half the season yet. 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Is it fifteen hundred yards, eleven touchdowns, stre interceptions. Is 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: he the greatest quarterback on Earth? No, but I'm gonna 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: go with above average. 113 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Well, he was great last year. He was in the 114 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: MVP candidate conversation. And then you're right. Those last couple 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: of games were enough for people to move off of 116 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: Sam Donald so much so that the Seahawks actually got 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: a discount from paying Gino Smith to pay Sam Donald 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: what they paid him. Now, I will say, and I 119 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: haven't seen every snap because our shows have been in 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: a couple of couple of windows that the Seahawks have played, 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 3: but saw him this past weekend against Jacksonville was really good. 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: Donald loves to throw to his number one option. So 123 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: guess what, Jackson Smith and Jigba has reaped the absolute 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: benefits of that. He has been an unstoppable force right 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: now for the Seahawks. Leads the NFL and receiving yards 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: does JSN And when you look at their schedule, Doug, 127 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: I other than to make your top three, they're four 128 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: and two. They lost to the forty nine ers in 129 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: comeback fashion, but they were driving at the time. And 130 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: then there was the fumble by Sam Darnold at the 131 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: end when Nick Bosa was able to cause pressure to 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: lose the football, and then the interception off of the 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: off of the helmet that Tampa Bay ended up kicking 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: a field goal, but Seattle had the football tied at 135 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: thirty five at that point. There's a case to me 136 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: maybe that maybe they could have been six and zero. 137 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: You know, some of those things go their way. But 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: they are really good. I still think they're a defensive team, 139 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: and they can't run the ball right now, at least 140 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: effectively as they would have hoped. But they are a 141 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: really really good football team. 142 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: Case too. 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. I'll take it from here. 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Doug. 145 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: I'll take it from here now. I don't know if 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: Doug you caught that. It was very subtle, in a 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: very Damn Buyer esque way. He basically called you an 148 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: idiot for not including the Seahawks, and. 149 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: The team did not call him an idiot. 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: No, no, no. The subtle somemost symbolism like subtle in 151 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: the Mary Wow, you should have had him in your 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: top three duck and there's no excuse. According to Dan Barr, 153 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: this has become it's it's becoming quietly and slowly my 154 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: favorite topic in the NFL. Aaron Glenn Doug covered it 155 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: a little bit with middel Cough last hour, but I 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: kind of wanted to dig a little deeper to this. 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: So what's his name? Mayo? For the Patriots? Gerrod Mayo 158 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: was released unceremoniously for the aforementioned Mike Rabel after one season, 159 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: but he did make it through that one season. Urban 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 4: Meyer did not write that was such a circus he 161 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 4: was in over his head in Jacksonville that he did 162 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 4: not last a complete season. I think Aaron Glenn is 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: going to be somewhere in between. I think he's going 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 4: to be the guy that only gets a year, maybe 165 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: less the entirety of this season. But I think what's 166 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: going to it's going to speed up the process of 167 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: his dismissal is the way he is choosing to handle 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: the New York media. There's a way to handle the 169 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: New York media and then there's a way to handle 170 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: Detroit media as an assistant coach. If you handle the 171 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: New York media as a head coach, or manager the 172 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: way he has chosen to, it's going to get very ugly, 173 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: very quickly. They have yet to win yet, and this 174 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: week provided a great example. All of this based on 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: Remember the opening press conference when the overwhelming take in 176 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: our talk space was man Aaron Glenn won the press conference. 177 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: Did you hear what he said yesterday. 178 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 6: To any players that's here, now, put your seat belts 179 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: on and get ready for the ride. Put your seat 180 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 6: belts on and get ready for the ride. 181 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Listen. 182 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 6: There are going to be some challenges, but what challenges 183 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: becomes opportunity gets opportunity. 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: But here's what I do know. 185 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: We're the freaking New York Jet, so we're built for. 186 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: The Okay, so the buckle up, and this is going 187 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: to be a ride. We had no idea. In the 188 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: moment that he met, he was telling his players and 189 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: the fans get ready for this Aaron Glenn ride where 190 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: you're gonna suffer a lot of lows. And then I'm 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: going to try to compensate it by being dismissive with 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: reporters and acting all condescending with people that are they're 193 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: handing me simple questions like this one when he was 194 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: asked about Justin Fields as his quarterback and his future 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: on Sunday Justice Knock knocking the steam. No, is he 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: going to be your quarterback next week? 197 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: Or when you come on? 198 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: Man, what kind of question is that? 199 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: Hey, now your game. 200 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 6: There's a number of guys that you know, I mean 201 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 6: sometimes this league is like this and there are guys 202 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: that have bad games. 203 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you just bnch them. Come on, you 204 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: know better than that. 205 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn also kind of mishandled the last minutes of 206 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 4: the actual game against the Broncos that they had to 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: chains to win. But the real head scratcher was what 208 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: happened at the end of the first half. And I've 209 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: still yet to be given an explanation as to why 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: he did this. Remember, they did that punt of fake 211 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: for a first down to seemingly buy time to try 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: to score before the end of the half, and they 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: just chose to sit on the ball and let the 214 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: clock go down, as opposed to do with every single 215 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: team in the history of football has done at that 216 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: point and try to hail Mary from the fifty yard 217 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: line at the end of the half. There might be 218 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: a tad bit of a risk that it would be 219 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: intercepted and taken the other way, but coaches usually don't 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: factor that into the equation. So he was all defiant 221 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: and belligerent with the press who had the audacity to 222 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: ask him the question afterwards, and then yesterday he had 223 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: a one point eighty. I guess the press was right 224 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: for answering to the question that point. 225 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: I thought it was a lot of confusion going on 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 6: because first down, no, first down, I say, guys, let's 227 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 6: just get out the half, right, because we're getting the 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 6: bone in the second half. But yes, but I would say, 229 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 6: if I could take man, let's run it down. Let's 230 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 6: get ready to throw the hill. 231 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 5: Mary. 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 6: So I'm with you on that. That's a mistake that 233 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 6: I made, and I hold myself accountable for that. 234 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Losing, how you're losing, and the way you're choosing to 235 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: handle a big party of your job, which is the media, 236 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: I think is going to lead to an early dismissal. 237 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: He might make it through the end of the season, 238 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: what do you guys think. 239 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: I think he definitely makes it through the season. I 240 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: don't think it was a good weekend. I think he'll 241 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: make it in the next year. And the Jets are 242 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: so desperate for stability. They may keep a coach who's 243 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: not good enough, but I definitely think I'll make it. 244 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 7: To the year's Sorry, Dan, let's just fun quickly. I 245 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: just want to say, let's keep in mind you look 246 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 7: at the Jets. They've had three two point losses to 247 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 7: like some quality teams. So you just scratch your can you 248 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 7: just scratch your head because we find a new way 249 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 7: to lose. 250 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a credit to Aaron Glenn 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: or a disc to Aaron Glenn, like they should be better, Yeah, yeah, 252 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: like you should have a better record, they should have 253 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: some wins well yeah, or that like coaching is the 254 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: difference in the close games. I think that that could 255 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: be taken that way. I agree with Doug. I think 256 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: that Glenn's purpose is to try to change the culture there. 257 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: I think his reaction to the Justin Fields question was 258 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: absolutely performative. But I think it's different than Nathaniel Hackett. 259 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: When Nathaniel Hackett came in as the head coach of 260 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: the Broncos and had that decision to settle for a 261 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: sixty yarder right out of the gate in Week one 262 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: against Seattle, and then things didn't get better from there 263 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: that I think that I think it's different in that 264 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: situation because I don't think Glenn is there to be 265 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: the offensive or defensive mind like Hackett was there for 266 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: the offense and to blend his offense. Yeah, he's just 267 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: to get energy. 268 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: He's the energy guy. 269 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, tough guy. 270 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, set the culture. Dan Campbell that that's what 271 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: he's trying to lose. 272 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: Let the coaches coach. I'll just oversee motivate, motivate, motivate motives. Yeah, yeah, 273 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: you and I were locked up here, all right. Well 274 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: that is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon. 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 276 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: the nation. 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Matt Lioner joins us here on 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, Matt, I 286 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of things I want to get to, 287 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: especially leading up to the cause and the anniversary twentieth 288 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: anniversary of the Bush Push. But help me out. Where 289 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: are you on where we've turned the corner here in 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: college football? Coaches getting fired UCLA three games in Milma matter, 291 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: three games in now, Jamie Franklin six games in? Where 292 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: are you on this growing trend in college football? 293 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, I mean, listen, it's there. There's so many 294 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: there's so many moving parts in college football, right in 295 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 5: college athletics in particular. You and I both know an 296 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 5: il portal. But it's just it's just it's just different. 297 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: It's a different era. I as a as a fan 298 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: and just someone who loves the game and loves watching 299 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: these kids play and all that. Like, I hate it 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: for I hate that part of it. I hate this. 301 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: I hate the fact that these players are there at 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: Penn State and a coach that recruited them and and 303 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: and like you see like all the players coming out 304 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: and posting and like how much games did for them. 305 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: You hate to see that, right because these players are 306 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 5: there for them and again we know the reverse of 307 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 5: that as coaches lead to go take a better job, 308 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: and so on and so forth. But I hate it, man, 309 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: I hate it. I hate it for the player. I 310 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: hate it for the fans. It doesn't feel fair, and 311 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 5: now those kids are kind of stuck with like like 312 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: what now, what's next? It becomes a distraction, It becomes 313 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: a lot of things, right, So I think that's the 314 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: short answer. I understand the business side. I understand, you know, 315 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: from the administration side, and some of these positions of like, hey, 316 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: we got to do this now because because of the portal, 317 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: like you want to get ahead, you want to, like 318 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: the recruiting, like there's a there's a lot that goes 319 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: into it. But you know, fortunately I never dealt with that, 320 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: right I can only imagine that. I've kind of thought 321 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: about this, like what would I do if, like I 322 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: was there and Pete Carroll got fired like six games in, 323 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 5: like like I don't know if I would have stayed, 324 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: Like I don't know how the trajectory of my career 325 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: would have went, you know. So I do I do 326 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: hate it though, for the players, man, I really do. 327 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, And I think I think what 328 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: we have here is we have this idea that somehow 329 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: it helps you in the portal. And again I can 330 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: only tell you from actual experience. Uh, it doesn't because 331 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: because even though like we call it the dark portal, right, 332 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: like guys that we know are gonna go in the portal, 333 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: you get to mid season, like everybody knows that's gonna happen, 334 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Like unless you have a new staff there, that that 335 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, right, that just it doesn't matter. Now you 336 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: can put somebody in place to begin the process in 337 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: terms of your general manager, and they can help you 338 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: with your your search, but that that doesn't I don't know. 339 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't think anything is gained. You 340 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: don't get any ground. You're just telling people, Hey, we're 341 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a whole new football team next year. 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I do agree. I mean and yeah, 343 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: obviously you know this as well as anybody. But I 344 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: do think there is a point of like if you're 345 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: gonna do it, then just if you're craft at Penn State, 346 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 5: and obviously there's a lot of pressure and this is 347 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 5: just building up this year, right, and it's still crazy 348 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: to think, like like like they're one play away from 349 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: beating Oregon a couple of weeks ago and being probably 350 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: the number one team in the country and who knows. 351 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 5: Right then then you know, like that gives them some 352 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 5: ament of and if not, it's just spiraled, right, But 353 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: like there's a lot of pressure there. It kind of 354 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 5: felt like like if not now when like like let's 355 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: just let's just do this now and we can like 356 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: to try and get ahead and like and like again, 357 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 5: we still got to get a staff. And now the 358 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 5: guys that were going after are probably going to be 359 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: playing in December and January, so they're still like I 360 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 5: just think it was like, let's make the decision now 361 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: and not in January. So at least we have an 362 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: idea and we can Isn't there in a row. 363 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Matt, isn't there isn't there a a isn't there a 364 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: time in between January? Like again, they were one play 365 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: away from being Oregon, one play away from uh from Northwestern. 366 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: If he doesn't aler doesn't get hurt, who knows what 367 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: happens on fourth down whatever? Right, he did win two 368 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: games in the playoff last year, and I get it, 369 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: like at some point you get to the like, here 370 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: we go again not winning big games. I'm not saying 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: you can't fire coaches. I'm not saying you can't fire 372 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: coaches with a game left. I don't understand the mid season. Hey, 373 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: let's especially when here's my issue with it. You know, 374 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: because you've been to Penn State, you've been to some 375 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: of these places. They all want to they all want 376 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: to position themselves as we're kind of holier than now, 377 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: right like we're the Big ten. We do things the 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: right way. The guys that don't, that's the sec they're 379 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: doing the exact same stuff. It's there's no different there. 380 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: So don't don't tell me you're you're different, you're special. 381 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: That would be my thing. You can fire them, fire 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: them with a game left, and then you have senior 383 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Day and it's his last day. Everybody hugs everybody's own, 384 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: this is over. You got plenty of time to go 385 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: off into the portal and do whatever you want. 386 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: Would that make sense? 387 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 5: Well, they're and they're not gonna I mean they're not 388 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: gonna I mean they're not gonna hire a coach until 389 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 5: probably at least December anyway. 390 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: So they're gonna hire a sitting head coach. 391 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, yet exactly, So the point is valid. Uh, And 392 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: again you can look to kind of the just the 393 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 5: I think the pressure that was mounting up with the 394 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: fan base and and all of that, and then you 395 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: lose your quarterback and it's just like you almost just 396 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 5: like James, We're gonna let you go now so we 397 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 5: don't have to deal with that. Yeah, I get it. Again, 398 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: I I hate it like I hated it for for 399 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 5: you know, for Gundi Oklhoma State. I hate it for Ucla. Now. 400 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: You're seeing Ucla because of that, you're seeing them now 401 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: win so that you know you could obviously, but but 402 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 5: the whole mid season, early season, Yeah, it's just it's 403 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 5: not a great. Look. I don't get it. There's a 404 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: lot of things like the poor I don't like the 405 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: portal either, you know, like I think now that the 406 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: one portal now is great, but like it's just you know, 407 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 5: you and I are old school obviously, Yeah, the old 408 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 5: school mentality is a little bit different. It is. It 409 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 5: is different now. But again, like I said, man, a 410 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: lot of a lot of moving parts. Obviously, that's a 411 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: huge job opening. We'll see what happens. But uh, I 412 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: feel for the players, dude, I really do. 413 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get to let's get to the brass tacks, 414 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: the big ten outside of Ohio State. I value your 415 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: opinion because your eyes are different than everybody else's eyes. 416 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: Is it at the same level as the SEC? 417 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 5: Uh? 418 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: When the SEC has like, you know, eight teams or 419 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: something in a rank the Big Ten? These school the 420 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Penn State falling off, Oregon losing at home, uh, Michigan 421 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: not being as good as they used to be. What's 422 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: your opinion of two through whatever, two through five or 423 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: six of the Big Ten versus two through five or 424 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: six in the SEC. 425 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the I think the interesting 426 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: thing is and I think the SEC is a great conference. 427 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: They've been they've been. I mean, obviously the two national 428 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 5: champions are too latest to come from the Big Ten. 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: I would just say this right about the SEC. And again, 430 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: preseason rankings are the worst because they prop teams up. 431 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 5: They're in there for no reason. Every you know this, 432 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: every team is different, Every season is different. It's like 433 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: you haven't played anybody, so you know the the you know, 434 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: like the perfect example. And I just I just texted 435 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: as someone like LSU. LSU's ranked tenth in the country. 436 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: They ranked tenth in the country. They have not like 437 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 5: go look at go look at their the resume right 438 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: now and tell me why they are ranked tenth in 439 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: the country. Like they beat Clemson, who's three and three 440 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 5: week one, We all Clemson's top five. That can't like 441 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: like we prop these teams up by we like you know, 442 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: the people who are voting, and it doesn't like like 443 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 5: LSU's not the tenth ranked team in the country. Ole 444 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: miss just just barely beat Washington State, who lost by 445 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: forty to North Texas, I believe, But we're propping them 446 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 5: up because every week is a battle on the road 447 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 5: and this and that and like and again, that's just 448 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 5: that's just the sec point that I'm making right now. 449 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 5: I don't think like you look at the big ten 450 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: right now, I think outside of I think Indiana's really good. 451 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: I think they're they're they're legit, legit Ohio State, Indiana, 452 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 5: And I think Oregon right the top three are very 453 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: good and those top three can beat any top three 454 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 5: in America in my opinion. And after you get that USC, 455 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 5: I think there's still question marks. Michigan is still question marks. 456 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: I think washing team is really good. But again, like 457 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: you know, like I just think there's this like mirage 458 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: of like who's really good and who's not because of 459 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: this propped up ranking and then they just stay in there. 460 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: Like Texas is four and two and somehow they're in 461 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: the top twenty five. But Washington is five and one 462 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: with a pretty good resume and they're not even in 463 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: the top twenty five, you know what I mean. So 464 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 5: to answer your question, like like teams three through eight, 465 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 5: you know, like, yeah, I think I think SEC is 466 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: probably favored in all of those games, right because I 467 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 5: think Texas, A and M is really good. I think 468 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 5: I think Bama's really good. Georgia is just good because 469 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 5: you know Tennessee. But I don't know, I think some 470 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: of these teams they just get propped up. Like I 471 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: don't think Vanderbilt is as good as probably people think 472 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: they are. Missouri, Like like Missouri hasn't beaten the soul. 473 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: They played Alabama tough, but they literally look at their 474 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: they literally haven't beaten anybody, yet they're still in the 475 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: top twenty. You know, So again and again, you can 476 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 5: people can do that for the Big Ten as well. 477 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: It goes both ways. So I think the Big Ken's 478 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: a great conference. I really do that. Obviously we covered 479 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: the Big Ten, but I got mad respect I think 480 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: Bama's playing as well as anybody in the country. I 481 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: think Georgia is dangerous as they just figure out ways 482 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 5: to win because of that culture and Kirby smart. But 483 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: some of those teams I'm just not sold on being 484 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: that highly ranked. 485 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Matt Leoner joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show 486 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Can USC block and penetrate the 487 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: lines of Notre Dame? 488 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not as worried about. Offensively, our offense is 489 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 5: really good. Like our offense, you know, even in the 490 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: game against Illinois, we're pretty pretty pretty dominant in that 491 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: game for the most part of his turnovers you can happen. 492 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: Last week was a great game for USC perception, narrative, 493 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: confidence in that locker room. Really most importantly to go 494 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: out there and beat a team like that, because still 495 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: I think Michigan's a good team, and their DNA is 496 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 5: a line of scrimmage, right whether they're eight and four, 497 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: ten and two's that's they're very good upfront. Notre Dame 498 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: is a totally different beast, and it comes down to 499 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 5: the same thing for me if I'm watching it, if 500 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: I'm a fan, can our front four and I say 501 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 5: front four. Can our front four? Can we can we 502 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: stop the run with four five six guys and play 503 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 5: pass coverage Because the difference between Notre Dame and the Michigan 504 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: Michigan's one dimensional. Bryce Underwood is really talented. I think 505 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 5: he's going to be great. He's not there yet in 506 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: the past game, they're just not there and they haven't 507 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: shown that. Notre Dame is different. CJ. Carr is a stud. 508 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: Like this kid is probably a top five pick in 509 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 5: two years. I think in this four game win strength, 510 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 5: they're averaging three hundred passing two hundred rushing. So that's 511 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: the problem. Like this is a totally different beast than 512 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: what we just saw also on the road. So to 513 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: answer your question, I don't know. Like that that's the challenge. 514 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 5: Like I'm I value that win versus Michigan is one 515 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: of the biggest wins probably for this program, definitely the 516 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: biggest win for Lincoln Riley. There's there's no doubt in 517 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 5: the way it was won. Because it can it can 518 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 5: slowly change the perception. But you know this, the difference 519 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 5: between good and great is consistency. Like great teams consistently 520 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: play that way at a high level and win and 521 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: win these types of games, and I'm not I don't 522 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 5: know if we're that yet, you know, and this is 523 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: a this is a game to find that out. 524 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the 525 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: voice of of Matt Lioner. What what did happen to Oregon? 526 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 5: Right? 527 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: How how did orgon that look like the best team 528 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: in the country goes you know, they go into Penn 529 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: State and get a win? How how did Indiana go 530 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: and do it? 531 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: Well? They they I mean this, this is the craziest thing. 532 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 5: You watch that tape, Like they got dominated the line 533 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 5: of scrimmage, like like Oregon, who's really good on both 534 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: front It's like they're they're very good. And I still 535 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 5: I still feel very highly about Oregon, Like I don't 536 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: look at that loss and be like man like, like 537 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 5: I think we I think we we we respect Indiana 538 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: more after that. The defensive line. The interesting thing with 539 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: that was Indiana excuse me, defensive line and front just 540 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: completely outplayed them, like their front that was the difference. 541 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 5: And that was what was shocking. I Mean, they got 542 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 5: some good players up there, but like they dominated them 543 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: on their home field. And you know, and I think 544 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: the thing about Dante more is and he's really good. 545 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 5: That kid's really good. He's going to be great. He's 546 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 5: still young, right, he hasn't he hasn't really, you know. 547 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: Obviously the Penn State game was was an overtime game 548 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: on the road, and that's that's a tough environment. And 549 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 5: and maybe now Penn State's obviously not as good as 550 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 5: everyone saw, but that's still a pretty good defense. And 551 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: he was able to uh kind of control that game 552 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 5: because their defense kept them in it. This one was different. 553 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 5: It just it just was different. Indiana's no yoke man like, 554 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: they're tough, they're confident. Their offense is really really good. 555 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 5: But that d line was nasty. That was a difference. 556 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 5: So they just that game was close, but they they 557 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: were in control of that game for four quarters. Like 558 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: they never felt out of control of that game. And 559 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm telling you what, Doug, Indiana is going to run 560 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 5: the table and they're going to be most likely it's 561 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: going to be Ohio State Indiana in the Big Ten 562 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 5: championship game, which is just bananas. 563 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: That that is that's that is bananas. 564 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 5: Okay. 565 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: So you're working with Abbott on a blood drive here 566 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: with the anniversary of the Bush Push. How does it work? 567 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, so so Abbot. They started this campaign last year 568 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: we Give Blood Drive campaign. I was a part of 569 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: it last year. This is year two. So basically they've 570 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: teamed up with every school in the Big Ten, all 571 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 5: eighteen schools, and it's a competition basically to see whatever 572 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: school can donate that most blood will win a million 573 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: dollars to advanced student or community health for their school. 574 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: So there's a big incentive the winner. It's announced at 575 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 5: the title game December sixth, the Big Ten Championship game. 576 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: Some key numbers DOUG just to keep an ony. Last year, 577 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: about sixty thousand lives were saved. Every donation saves up 578 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 5: to three lives. This year so far over one hundred 579 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: and ten thousand lives have been saved, which is amazing 580 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: and we're only halfway through the season. So it's just 581 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: just people have showed out and showed up for this 582 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: year too. It's really great. 583 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 8: Man. 584 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 5: Someone needs blood every two seconds. There's a massive blood shortage. 585 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: There's just crazy numbers. I've learned as I've as I've 586 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: teamed up with this with the Abbot of the last 587 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 5: couple of years. So it's just it's a great cause. 588 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 5: Abbit's amazing. Obviously they're working with the Big ten schools. 589 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 5: Everyone's kind of you know, obviously competed and to have fun, 590 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 5: but it's for a greater cause. Big ten dot org 591 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: backslash abbot is is where you can go to find 592 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: the location near you university or the city you live in. 593 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 5: You can donate for your school. You can just go 594 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: donate for someone close you are family members, someone you 595 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: know that needs blood, or just donate for the cause 596 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 5: in general. So it's a great cause. Appreciate you. Let 597 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: me talk about it. Man. It's it's again, like I said, 598 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 5: of one hundred and ten thousand people saved. 599 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: So far, Carson Palmer took over Santa Margarita, Big one 600 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: sag and Santa Margherita took down your old al modern 601 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: modern day nuts. I mean, look, I know you got 602 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: cold and everything. I'm just wondering when you're gonna go 603 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: and put the headset on and take back modern day, 604 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: to take back to take back the league. 605 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: You dude, you go, you go, Tustan, I'll go modern 606 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 5: day man, let's do it. You know what it was. 607 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 5: You know, my oldest son was there we're not there anymore. 608 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: We obviously love modern day. I was. I saw that 609 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 5: score and I'm like, what seven to six? But like Gush, 610 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 5: I got Lenny Vander made over at USC, got Carson 611 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 5: t J. Huschmanzati had a lot of buddies I know 612 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: over there. So I actually watched I think Santa Marguerita 613 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: played Mission Via Hill week one. It was like the 614 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: game and we actually watched that on TV and I 615 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 5: think they lost, but it was like, all right, and 616 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, I mean that's that's a 617 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a huge win for them. So I'm 618 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: not sure what's happened on today. Two losses and they 619 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 5: still got Bosco. But pump for Carson Man, like you know, 620 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 5: his son fletches there. He's gonna be the quarterback there 621 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: probably next year. I told my wife this, you know, 622 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: She's like, she's like, she wants me to be you 623 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 5: know what it was the old coaching Friday night lights 624 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: like Chris Chandler or yet whatever, I forget. She wants 625 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 5: me to be that in like ten years. So when 626 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 5: I retire from TV and anything else that I'm doing. 627 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 5: My little boys are five and a half and four. 628 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: So in about ten years, you might see me on 629 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 5: the headset of you know, maybe Merret Coast over here 630 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 5: in Manhattan Beach or somewhere, you know, to get out 631 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 5: there and call some plays. 632 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 8: Man. 633 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: But until then, I enjoy what I do, dude. But 634 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 5: I will say that I was going to say this. 635 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 5: You would be proud of me. I got two new 636 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: hits for the last couple of years, right, I feel good. 637 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 5: I'm in my Tuesday night rec league. I'm averaging about 638 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 5: twenty points a game. I'm playing outside the three point line. 639 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: It's a thirty five and older league, some good players. 640 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: But you'd be proud of me, man, I'm I'm showing up, dude. 641 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: I got a game. I got a game tonight, so. 642 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: I expect nothing less than buckets. I don't you pass it. 643 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 5: I just I just you won't find me inside of 644 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: the key, dude. I just I just heave up threes 645 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: and hope they go in. 646 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: No, it's so funny. It's like when I play, I 647 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: got to get back to playing. Some I'm just coaching 648 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: takes away that time or whatever. Yeah, But when I 649 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: do play, guys like you pass a lot in college, Like, yeah, 650 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: I passed in college. I'm not passing anymore. 651 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: That's sick. You were. I mean you were a great pastor, 652 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: that's for sure. 653 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: I definitely was not a great shooter. Matt, You're the 654 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: best man. Best of luck to your men of Troy 655 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: this weekend. Can't wait to see you on the set 656 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: of Big Name Kickoff. That show keeps getting better and better. 657 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: And appreciate all the folks that have but what they're 658 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: doing with this blood drive. 659 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 5: Thanks for our guest, all right, appreciate you. That me 660 00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: man good. 661 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: That's a Heisman Trophy winner and two time national champion, 662 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: Matt Lioner joining us on the show. 663 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 664 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 665 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Doug gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Be sure checking on 666 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: our new YouTube channel, Doug gottlip Show on YouTube. Again, 667 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: that's Doug Gottlieb Show. Be sure to hit the subscribe 668 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: button and don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up. I 669 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: kind of comment away. Let me know if you agree 670 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: with my takes interview. Don't you might hate him, don't care. 671 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: Check out the brand new YouTube channel and again that's 672 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe Jay Stu, I know we're playing. 673 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: Is this Iron Maiden? 674 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: Iron Maiden hashtag irons up? The fortieth anniversary today of 675 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: Live After Death, Live after Death, Live after Death forty 676 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: years ago, one of the greatest live albums ever recorded. 677 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 4: Thank you, Iron Maiden hashtag Iron Up. 678 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I went 679 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: with my daughter Grace to an Iron Maiden concert at 680 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: the Was it the what is it called? Now, it's 681 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: not the Pond Arrow? Was it Honda Center's Stone? 682 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: That sounds right? 683 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: All right? 684 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Sure that tracks. Let's get to the press with Dan 685 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: byr Denny the Press. 686 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: I do want to point out a couple of things 687 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: that happened last night. I know Jason does as well. 688 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: I think you guys dive into it on the pod, 689 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: but mine comes on the football side of things. How 690 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: interesting last night in that Commander's Bears game that a 691 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: bounce doesn't go the Commander's way. What a difference a 692 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: year makes with Washington. Now they're three and three. They 693 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: have a good win over the Chargers on their ledger. However, 694 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: as a whole, I think a lot of people were 695 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: expecting big things from the Commanders, not me. I picked 696 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: them to miss the playoffs because not everything is gonna 697 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: go your way like it did last year. And I 698 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: felt last night was a perfect example of that of 699 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: having the game in hand, gets misty, it's raining, and 700 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Jane, Jayde and Daniels can't hold 701 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: on to the snap. You get a fumble. Bears recover, 702 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: capitalize and win the football game. Last night in. 703 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: DC, Bears stop bearsh Yeah, and it is. It is 704 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: one of those things where last time they played, remember 705 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: they had the lead, they lost in a hail Mary. 706 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: Last year the Bears that they won on some pluky 707 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: stuff against the Packers in Green Bay, they lost on 708 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: a fluky dwinker down in Chicago. And what happens is, 709 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it is just luck. It's just about it. 710 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: Like some years the ball goes in, some years the 711 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: ball does not. And it feels like maybe this is 712 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: a sign of things changing. It's a lot like my chargers, right, 713 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Jayce and I Jayse is like, hey, they still charged. 714 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: The only difference is that instead of getting sacked Jester 715 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: herbrute normally would he shook the sack through it to 716 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: Lad maccak. You got them in the field goal range. 717 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: Sure. My point about the Commanders, though, is everything went 718 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: right for them last year. 719 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 4: Right some years ago? 720 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, things are going wrong and you're like, oh, they're 721 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: really not that good. 722 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: Correct, Yep, just like the Bills weren't as good as 723 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: people thought. Maybe they were through the first four weeks 724 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: of the season despite being four and oh and now 725 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: it's kind of showed over the last couple of weeks. 726 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about that double play that 727 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: happened last night in Milwaukee? 728 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: Do it y doing ninety seconds? You give me ninety 729 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 4: seconds to talk about a play that's very nuanced. 730 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: I was I was told that you guys dug deep, 731 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: dug deep in the pod ten to fifteen minutes just 732 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: on this one play. 733 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're talking about the play that warranted Colin Cowherd 734 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: to say this in the opening of his show. 735 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 8: Well, there are no Dodger games without drama. 736 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: There. 737 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 8: Screenwriters couldn't do a better job. 738 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: They didn't have it on my bingo card. 739 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 4: I would challenge that. I would say screenwriters would do 740 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 4: a real good job. Remember, screenwriters wrote a movie about 741 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 4: a snail winning then, so I'm guessing they could come 742 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: up with a script where a double play is made 743 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: off a basis loaded in the fourth inning of an 744 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 4: NLCS game. 745 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: By the way, was that Greg twoey on drums? Can 746 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: we hear that again? 747 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 4: Snare drum? 748 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 3: Was that Greg two? 749 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 8: Well, there are no Dodger games without drama. Screenwriters couldn't 750 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 8: do a better job. 751 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: The ringo, star of Fox Sports Radio, uh and Bucks, 752 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: Forward Annis and tet Koopa, says he'd like to finish 753 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: his career in Greece. Okay, okay, okay, that's so inside, 754 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: but that's the press. 755 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I get out there and pressed. 756 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 2: That was the press. 757 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 7: All right. 758 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: We got Dodgers against the Brewers. Hopefully it gives us more. 759 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: Check out the podcast. We do go into in depth 760 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: about it. He wants to play in Greece, but when 761 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: not soon? This is the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, okay, okay.