Speaker 1: Without going too deeply into it. And this is not
Speaker 1: for the sake of gossip, So we have to really
Speaker 1: understand that. I have been thinking about Jennifer Lopez and
Speaker 1: Beneffleck a little bit. First of all, she's had a
Speaker 1: time of it. We know that, Like it's not been
Speaker 1: her favorite year, I'm sure for many reasons. But it's
Speaker 1: the relationship I'm thinking about. And I think that in
Speaker 1: hearing so many different people talk about them, I don't
Speaker 1: think people talk about celebrities as human beings. I think
Speaker 1: people must assume that celebrities are superhuman in some way,
Speaker 1: like that there's something different, and there is something different,
Speaker 1: and they do have a different maybe drive or determination
Speaker 1: or desire for fame or love or workaholic or obsessive
Speaker 1: or perfectionist or money, want money, or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I think people aren't thinking about the time it
Speaker 1: takes to invest into a relationship, right, Like think about
Speaker 1: parenting and your kids, Like you get out what you
Speaker 1: put in and you see that around you. It's the
Speaker 1: best formula ever and relationships. You know, if it's important
Speaker 1: to you, it's important to me, the time you put
Speaker 1: in you get out. You may not want to at
Speaker 1: the time, and it may be a time in your
Speaker 1: life you're not there or you know, you may just
Speaker 1: not be in love. But these two pined over each
Speaker 1: other for years, madly in love. Now. Ben Affrica is
Speaker 1: an admitted addict. I believe Jennifer Lopez is probably a
Speaker 1: work or success or fame or you know, adoration or
Speaker 1: like vanity or something. You know, like she's she's definitely
Speaker 1: got that drive and you have to be in some
Speaker 1: regard to be at that level. And you see you
Speaker 1: see a difference in certain people. You see a difference
Speaker 1: energetically in Kim Kardashian then Courtney Kardashian. They're just not
Speaker 1: the same person. And you see that Courtney Kardashian is
Speaker 1: really what it seems like from the outset as a celebrity.
Speaker 1: She's chosen to check out a bit. She's really invested
Speaker 1: in her parenting. You see that she's invested in her health,
Speaker 1: she's invested in her marriage. She's very invested in her relationship.
Speaker 1: And you can see that while in the beginning it
Speaker 1: must have been really fun and there's a wedding and
Speaker 1: the attention and the making out and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Now it's settled a little because she has a young child,
Speaker 1: she has multiple children, and you simply cannot succeed at
Speaker 1: parenting and relationship if you're trying to fit fifty pounds
Speaker 1: of shit in a five pound bag. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: Courtney and Chloe have different struggles than Kim as it
Speaker 1: pertains to parenting, as it pertains to success and fame.
Speaker 1: So I say this because I noticed, as just a
Speaker 1: person watching two public people that when Jennifer and Ben
Speaker 1: got together, you know, they had been pining away for
Speaker 1: each other for years, and they got together, and that
Speaker 1: passion must have been so exciting. He was probably in
Speaker 1: the wrong relationship, she was in the wrong relationship, and
Speaker 1: it's really exciting, and you think someone's going to save
Speaker 1: you and make all your dreams come true, and thinking
Speaker 1: about each other for all those years must have been
Speaker 1: extremely passionate, and when they got together, it must have
Speaker 1: been really passionate. And then you're on the high of
Speaker 1: that it's happening, and you think, I've remembered the beginning
Speaker 1: of certain relationships, thinking love's going to conquer all and
Speaker 1: to can cure the world, and we're never going to
Speaker 1: be a part more than one night, and all these proclamations,
Speaker 1: and you just think you're one person and you want
Speaker 1: to do everything together. And they had that, and you
Speaker 1: could see that, but they were She was dying to
Speaker 1: express and profess and convey and let us know how
Speaker 1: successful this relationship was. Like that takes a lot of effort.
Speaker 1: Having done it on reality television, I realized it strips
Speaker 1: you and you also were kind of on a high
Speaker 1: from what the public thinks too, like they're involved in it,
Speaker 1: and we were very much involved in How great did
Speaker 1: it feel that everybody was talking about them and they
Speaker 1: got together after twenty five years and the loves of
Speaker 1: each other's lives and all that, and then she's emoting
Speaker 1: and sorry, and then they were It was the middle.
Speaker 1: I just kept from I kept thinking about the fact
Speaker 1: that it was the middle of the summer, like July
Speaker 1: and August, in the sweltering heat, and I remember she
Speaker 1: was wearing like wide leg jeans and like either Milan
Speaker 1: or Paris or some like metropolis in the heat, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, that looks so hotid it also looks exhausting,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem like this guy like this guy
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he wants to be emoting in that
Speaker 1: way publicly. And there are many famous, really famous people
Speaker 1: that are under the radar, Like you really don't see
Speaker 1: George Clooney in them all that much. If they're promoting something.
Speaker 1: You see David Beckham and Victoria But like people, Julia
Speaker 1: Roberts maintains a level of privacy, so does Jennifer Anison,
Speaker 1: and they live in like La, you know. But some
Speaker 1: people manage to not be that public. Ryan Gosling's figured
Speaker 1: it out. You don't have to be in the public
Speaker 1: eye even being in La, you know, or New York.
Speaker 1: I've been through all of this and I'm not nearly
Speaker 1: as public as any of these people. But there are
Speaker 1: people that choose to be private. But they I'm gonna
Speaker 1: to say they because he went along with it, He's
Speaker 1: not a mummy. Chose to be extremely public the whole
Speaker 1: way through on the boat making out. Then we come
Speaker 1: into a movie. While that movie that she spent twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars on takes a lot to produce, a lot
Speaker 1: of time, a lot of money, a lot of choreography.
Speaker 1: Then they did the documentary of the making of that movie,
Speaker 1: then launching an album, then launching a tour, going to
Speaker 1: Dulca Gabona, going to the met gala, going to the
Speaker 1: movie premiere, going to Venice, to that fashion week like Paris. Fact.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if I right now knew that on
Speaker 1: June sixth, June sixth, I had a little party like
Speaker 1: on the like it almost in the metpacking district. I
Speaker 1: think it was like a Diane von Furstenberg and Barry
Speaker 1: Diller were doing like a party and the I don't
Speaker 1: know where the high line or something, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just like music. I was having anxiety. Now that's not
Speaker 1: the metal or anything even remotely like what Jennifer Lopez
Speaker 1: says every day to get decked out for. But like
Speaker 1: I already was like, no, I'm not gonna want to go.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit down and hear make up
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to put an outfit on it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go out on a get my picture taken. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go same thing. This movie, this great
Speaker 1: movie's coming out. I think it's m Night Shamali on
Speaker 1: the watchers. I'm excited. I got the invitation. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yay. And it's a movie premiere, but
Speaker 1: like it's not now what j Lo and Ben were
Speaker 1: doing with each of there. He had a movie, she
Speaker 1: had a movie. I have a movie. It was it
Speaker 1: was five hundred things. And for me, I just cancel
Speaker 1: the Watcher because I don't. I want to just walk
Speaker 1: on the beach and be free and have gray hair.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to deal and I don't, so
Speaker 1: I do nothing, and I still don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I want to be with my daughter. I want to
Speaker 1: not miss anything. I want to be there every minute
Speaker 1: that I have her experience her games, and and I
Speaker 1: just want to be there and being there with her,
Speaker 1: and then also being in a relationship that also takes
Speaker 1: an effort and balance. You know, you've got to be
Speaker 1: there for your kids, and you want to be a
Speaker 1: good partner if you're in a long distance relationship or
Speaker 1: if you have a career where you have to travel,
Speaker 1: or the other per I'm just gonna say, there can
Speaker 1: really only be one peacock in a relationship. I don't
Speaker 1: think Ben wanted to be a peacock, you know, but
Speaker 1: he's some version of a peacock. He's an artist, so
Speaker 1: he's going and doing the dunkin donuts. You know he's
Speaker 1: doing that commercial that's going to take work. He's going
Speaker 1: to do something in addition. That shoot I think was
Speaker 1: a Charlie Demilia shoot. And he had his own movies
Speaker 1: and he's got his own How in the hell do
Speaker 1: you expect somebody to have a successful relationship? Oh, I forgot.
Speaker 1: I think they have six kids between them, maybe more,
Speaker 1: maybe five. They have more than four children between them.
Speaker 1: So you've got all of this shit. You're hosting the
Speaker 1: mechl you're doing a movie, you're doing a movie about
Speaker 1: a movie you do, and you're gonna have a relationship
Speaker 1: and your complicated personalities. How could it be possible? Someone
Speaker 1: needs to be like the more chill balanced one. But
Speaker 1: also sometimes that person who's chill doesn't want to deal
Speaker 1: with a circus. They don't want every second to have
Speaker 1: to wait two and a half hours for their partner
Speaker 1: to get ready, and everything's a show and everything's a
Speaker 1: spectacle and everything's public. I did that for years because
Speaker 1: I was broke. I never want to do that again.
Speaker 1: I get off for TV shows all the time. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that because I don't have to
Speaker 1: be on that dog and Pony show. Yes, that last week.
Speaker 1: Oh a book, Oh my god, I want to do
Speaker 1: a book. I don't want to do another book. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do a book tour. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put on six outfits and go do the morning
Speaker 1: show tour. And I'm so much less busy in that
Speaker 1: way than these people. I don't know how anyone would
Speaker 1: expect anyone in that situation to succeed. And I bring
Speaker 1: up George Clooney and them all because you can see
Speaker 1: that they're really like spending time with their kids. They
Speaker 1: pick their spots when they're going out. They're not not
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four days a year in a
Speaker 1: full grind while trying to do the rest of it.
Speaker 1: I feel that it's impossible, and I think it's something
Speaker 1: so we don't care about. If we don't care about celebrities,
Speaker 1: to talk about ourselves, like the game starts to move fast.
Speaker 1: You start to take on obligations. You start to say yes.
Speaker 1: You start to say yes to the school events, to
Speaker 1: the making the costume. You're going to the Little Cross games.
Speaker 1: Your husband needs something, you have to support him at work.
Speaker 1: You're trying to start your own business, you're trying to
Speaker 1: be there for your kids. Someone's upset, you're doing college applications,
Speaker 1: you're picking up like that. Think about how exhausted you
Speaker 1: are from that, and you're the giving tree. And then
Speaker 1: you're a relationship suffers because all you're talking about is
Speaker 1: kids in soccer and all that stuff. And it's not
Speaker 1: sexy anymore either, because no one wants to hear the
Speaker 1: other person constantly mired in what they do. So I
Speaker 1: just find that relationships are really hard, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's terrible to criticize, like people are criticizing like whatever,
Speaker 1: criticizing him and her like it's just two people that
Speaker 1: can have it all. Would it even be fair? They
Speaker 1: both have these seventeen kids, nineteen careers, forty two charities, skits, money, houses, kids,
Speaker 1: and it's all just going swimmingly. Well, it'd be impossible.
Speaker 1: It's impossible. Brand will be with me most of the summer.
Speaker 1: She'll go to a sports camp for like a week
Speaker 1: and a lot of this is when I think this
Speaker 1: is more of like a Hampton's Long Island and Jewish
Speaker 1: communities things, to be honest, but people ship their kids
Speaker 1: off camp and I don't understand it because sum are
Speaker 1: so fleeting and so short, and I know it's good
Speaker 1: confidence building or structure or independence. I can't imagine school
Speaker 1: being over, having like one or two weeks in the
Speaker 1: Hampton's are like feeling sunny and doing things, and then
Speaker 1: your kids being away the whole summer at camp and
Speaker 1: they come back and it's a scramble. Because it used
Speaker 1: to be that they come back and they have a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before school. But now these kids' sports
Speaker 1: in high school they start like two weeks before school,
Speaker 1: which I find to be such a violation because like, wait,
Speaker 1: now you're fucking with my summer too, which happens with
Speaker 1: every holiday weekend with all these club teams too, Like
Speaker 1: they're relentless these sports. They just don't care about anybody's
Speaker 1: time and anybody's vacation in anybody's summer. So I just
Speaker 1: I think I'd be broken hard. She can go. I've
Speaker 1: said to her a bunch of times, you want to
Speaker 1: go anywhere? Thank God she doesn't want to go, because
Speaker 1: I just like being with her. That's our time. It's
Speaker 1: not time with school. It's time. We can go clamming
Speaker 1: near our house. We can go vegetable picking, we can
Speaker 1: go wakeboarding, we can go take the jeep to Montak
Speaker 1: like it's an experience. I can't wait to go with
Speaker 1: her this weekend and explore and walk on the beach
Speaker 1: and go swimming like I just love the freestyle summer.
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm a person who loves just like
Speaker 1: being in the water all the time and my hair
Speaker 1: being gross and like a real freestyle. I don't like
Speaker 1: the socialite stuff. I don't like the events. I don't
Speaker 1: care about any of that. I just want to be
Speaker 1: in the water and like feeling, feeling healing from the beach.
Speaker 1: So I'm super excited. So I'm finding that the more
Speaker 1: I talk to people my age, people are really starting
Speaker 1: to question their own choices, careers, relationships, financial situations, a
Speaker 1: little purpose and like retirement and careers. So let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me get into it. So I have
Speaker 1: friends that are evaluating their marriages, like they have kids,
Speaker 1: the kids you know left for college and their home now.
Speaker 1: And you realize, you just know, you've You're at a
Speaker 1: certain age where some people around you have gotten sick,
Speaker 1: people have passed. You have a greater appreciation for youth
Speaker 1: and health, and you value people are evaluating their relationships
Speaker 1: while some people really want to grow old with someone.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of insecurity. It's sometimes financial security. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you worry if something ever happens to you. Someone's there,
Speaker 1: but what do you do in the meantime Because a
Speaker 1: lot of people that are rushed to get married, they
Speaker 1: wanted the whole package. Now they're sitting there saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know who this person is and I don't know
Speaker 1: how to connect to them, and this is my time now,
Speaker 1: Like how am I going to use it? You know,
Speaker 1: for some people to glow up, for some people it's
Speaker 1: an affair. For some people to divorce. For some people
Speaker 1: it's leaning in closer to your partner. I just mean
Speaker 1: it's a very instrumental, interesting time. I'm hearing from a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And then also it's in my body
Speaker 1: to not want to do certain things, Like it's no
Speaker 1: it used to be that I would say I didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it, but like I'd agree to it.
Speaker 1: And then now it's so relentless you almost feel like
Speaker 1: you're an old person that's crotchety. It's like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that? Why because I don't want to? How's that?
Speaker 1: Like you get a little you get a little belligerent
Speaker 1: because you just know the time is so precious and
Speaker 1: you don't want to do anything or be anywhere that
Speaker 1: you don't really enjoy. You feel like it's a violation.
Speaker 1: So it's a very interesting time. People at this age
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the same grind unless they're
Speaker 1: just addicts, like workaholics, which is a thing, but they
Speaker 1: just they're trying to find a way to extricate while
Speaker 1: still earning if you can and making sure you're secure.
Speaker 1: But it's just like time is of the essence to
Speaker 1: everybody now,