1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes James and coaches aren't on the same page, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: and and sometimes people have powers to make moves when 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: other guy didn't know about it. What did My buddy 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: started crying and I was like, I don't know, what's what? What? 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: What's the deal? And he said, you know, it's a 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: form of cancer. She said, there was always something about Bostimore. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Finally I got home when I left you guys, and um, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: I said, Babe, I think you're right. I think there's 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: something about Baltimore. Welcome into the lounge. We are joined today. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get ready to it right. Joined by 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: wide receiver Jerry Macknen. We get the biggest guests, the 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: hottest names. The first game is the Raven four year 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown, key moment of the game. What's he want 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: to do? First thing he says is I need to 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: get on Launch podcast. This was you know, you knew 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: that the Launch podcast invite was coming, so this was 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: the preemptive podcast bumps. That's really key. You know, people 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: may have forgotten about the podcast Bump, but now the 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: season's back in session. Here the podcast Bump is in 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: full affair. Hashtag podcast. We're gonna We're gonna bump Disney 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: World is like the thing you know you win the 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Wait, what are you gonna do next? I'm 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: going on Launge podcast. That's gonna be a new thing. 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I like it. But before we get into the interview 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: with Jeremy, we need to let our friends know about 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: our deal. At Papa John's get the Ravens Flock Special. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: By ordering all season long, you get a large specialty 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: pizza and a large two topping pizza with a promo 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: code Ravens Flock at Papa John's dot com. And then 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: every day after Ravens win, So you know, go ahead 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: book this for sixteen games during the regular season. Yeah, 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I want to know. You should already have done this. 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: This is the Ravens fifty special. The day after every 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Ravens win, get fifty off all regular menu price online 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: orders with the promo code Ravens fifty at Papa John's 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: dot com. So probably a lot of people did that 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: on Monday already. Once again, use my toppings from the 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: topping strap with that mine, Let's go ahead and read 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the email here. Garrett gotten a lot of good ones recently. 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: This one comes from Joseph Guusa. Wow. Google Lousa. I 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: don't know, but that's a great last name. Anyway, Joseph says, 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and you know he is a loyal Lounge listener, but 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: he also watches us on Unscripted where you and I 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: often are on the TV show which airs on Saturdays, 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: so you make sure you tune in for that right 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: after Saturday Night Live on w b A L here locally. 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: We all sup post the full show on the app 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: and on the website if you want to watch it 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: as well. Well done, good season anyway, Joseph says, My 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: first time emailing him a loyal listener Lounge since his 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: debut and originally born and raised in Baltimore. I just 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: wanted to acknowledge the comments made by Ryan Mink on 53 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: Ravens Unscripted recently when he said that he expects Joe 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: Flacco to perform at a high level in Week one 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: despite his back injury and lack of training camp reps 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: this year. I believe that Ryan's comment is spot on. 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Every email with a ten year vetted the QB position 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: as well as the previous minicamp and all season reps 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: for Flacco and his new receivers should suffice given the 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: decade of experience that Placco has. That's exactly what he said, 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Joseph says, and I'll finish here. I applaud Mink for 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: stepping up and voicing what the true reality of the 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: situation is. Jarrett, you are on the other side of 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: this whole debate. What I said is what actually ended 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: up happening. You what you did, And I said, what 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: I think is more likely is that the Ravens trying 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: to run the ball a lot, kind of pair things 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: down and give him a limited that a limited playbook, 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: but a limited game plan. And what happened. They ran 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the ball a billion times. They ran the ball twelve 71 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: straight place in the second half. So once again, you 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: can make all these statements, but you're wrong. You said, 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: set the bar low for Joe Flacco. He's not going 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to be the same. He would have thrown the ball 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: thirty times if they didn't have of seventeen nothing leading 76 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. So it went 77 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: exactly as I exactly again, Mark in my talent, Joseph 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: from ash in North Carolina. Some great beer down National. 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I want to go great, Oh Ben, it's wicked weed. 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: I think its a great one. Oh it's sick anyway. Also, 81 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: speaking of beer, pumpkin beer season is officially here. We 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: need we need to do more chatting about this. We 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: are going to do more. Not with we got to 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: get to the interview with Jeremy Mappen. But this is 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: a good time. So if you have pumpkin beer thoughts, recommendations, questions, 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: go ahead and send them into the lounge at Ravens 87 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: on NFL dot New. But with that, let's get right 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: into an interview with wide receiver Jeremy Macklin. Jeremy, start 89 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: things off here. I feel like we gotta get a 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: nickname for you, right, I mean, you're gonna be a 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: big player around here. You gotta have a good nickname. 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: So j Mac is that it? Or is there? I mean, 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: that's that's my nickname. That that all my guys called 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: me by what? I don't know what are some of 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: the nicknames we have here? I don't know. That's what 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm warning. I came up with a big Mac. No 97 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: other guys on the team, and I know Webb has 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: one right webby original, creative, no outside the box? What 99 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: else do we have? When we have sizzle sizzle, that's 100 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: probably the best one that's a good one. I mean, 101 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: then there's a lot of like just the short versions 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: like talk or there's like really you don't have you 103 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: don't have, like nobody's like, you know, yeah, Superman, the Hulk, 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: you know. And then there's we got kind of a 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: comic book theme because that we have c J. Who's 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: half man, half amazing. That's true, that's a really nickname. 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: But who's who is that is that? I don't even know? 108 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Do you recon did you never was a big comic guy? 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: That's where the dorks on this setting. I wasn't a 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: comic either, But I think I think J Mac. I 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: think that's good. And there's no hyphen, there's just a 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: space j MC. Yes, okay, all right. And then MacMan 113 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: is another one. People like a lot of my guys 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: that I played college with coming MacMan? Is that a 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: playoff of pac Man? I guess, So, I don't know. 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: You can't make up your own eat everything, you can't 117 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: make up your own nickname. So yeah, I like it. 118 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: But I heard you were like as a kid, you 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: were called Smiley. Yeah, so that one doesn't seem like 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: a football that's not to Smiley, I guess, So you 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: scored a forty eight yeard touchdown your first game as 122 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: a Raven. I like the running, you know, with running 123 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: with the ball out there. That was pretty nice, But 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: no touchdown celebration afterwards? Was that just if you frozen 125 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the moment? Did you have one plan? Or you're just 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: not a celebration guy. I don't really celebrate. I may have. 127 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: I may have celebrated twice since I've been you know, 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: my nine years in the league after I touched there. 129 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: But I just not. I've always been told I like 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: you've been there before. Um And that's no knock on 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: people who do celebrate, because Mike Wallas never celebrates. You know, 132 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: he's really calm whenever he scores. You know, you know, 133 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: different strokes for different folks. You can kind of balance 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: those guys out, you know, because Mike you know Flacco 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: joke last year, when Mike scores a touchdown, it takes 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: him about fifteen minutes to cal him down. Afterwards, he's 137 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: like hyper ventilating on the sidelines, So maybe you can 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of balance him out. Yeah, opposite the track, right right, 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: What were the two celebrations, um my last year two 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, I actually had a little bet with 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: the receivers. How I used just something I mess around with. 142 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: It's actually on my Instagram to where a little dance 143 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I messed around. I did that when I scored, and 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: then three years ago and Philly, I did this thank 145 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: you leg one time? All right? So how much fun 146 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: was that? I mean your first game, it's you know, 147 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably have the motivation of of all 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: those things of getting released in and up here and 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: then your first game for your touchdown. Just how much 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and how enjoyable was that for you to throw things 151 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: off like that? Well, I think most importantly, I think 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, getting to win was was was was the 153 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: most important thing there? Um, you know, and clearly you 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: know you you always you know want to contribute to 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: doing that, and you know that that that touchdown was 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a big play in that game kind of when you know, offense, 157 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: we have been moving the ball but didn't really have 158 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: very many points to show forward and uh defensive defensive 159 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: playing lights out, um and and and to be able 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: to make that play in that moment kind of it 161 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of kind of turned the game a little bit. 162 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's credit to Joe and getting us 163 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: in the right getting us in the right play, in 164 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: the right situation for us to be successful. And then 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: right afterwards they throw a pick and we punch it 166 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: in right after that. So I think that was a 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: big momentum swing in the game. So, Joe Audible to 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: that play you you said that you kind of had 169 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: an idea that you might have a chance. Are you 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: just kind of like, yeah, absolutely, you know. And and 171 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: the one thing I'm thinking, Okay, I see they're showing 172 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, zero blitz. Everybody's man and man, there's no 173 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: help in the middle of the the field. The one thing 174 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: that was going through my mind is please don't let 175 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: anybody drop from then scriments, because I knew, if, you know, 176 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: if we were able to kind of get that playoff, 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a big one, right right. So 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: I think that you and Mike Wallace are interesting because 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are similar in a lot 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: of different ways. You know, Mike signed here last year 181 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: he was released by the Vikings, and he talked a 182 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: lot about how he felt like he still has something 183 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: to prove. I want to show everybody could still play. 184 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: You end up here, and then obviously last year he 185 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: goes out there and has a thousand yeard season and 186 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: leads Ravens. You in a kind of a similar vote, 187 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: get released by the Chiefs end up here, and you've 188 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: talked about how the fact you still feel like you've 189 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: got a lot of good football left in front of you. 190 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: Is that something you guys talk about and you feel 191 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the parallels between you guys. Yeah, you know, you kind 192 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: of see the similarities as far as you know the 193 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: path that we both that both got us here. Um, 194 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: you know there's there's not some differences there, you know. Um, 195 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, UM, you know this is 196 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: the place that you know receivers have come and been 197 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: successful kind of I ain't gonna say, um in the 198 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: later years of their career because I feel like I'm 199 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine. I got a lot of good Like 200 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: I said, I got a lot of good football left. 201 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: But um, receivers are coming and done well. And I 202 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: knew that. Um, you know what Steve did here, what 203 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Mike was able to do last year and even go 204 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: back to Bolden and you know what I mean. So, UM, 205 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: so all those guys have a success here, and UM, 206 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: you know I think that you know, I don't notice 207 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: for sure, but I might have been the youngest to 208 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: come here. Um kind of Um, but you know, just 209 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, being being hurt last year and uh kind 210 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: of the way things um happened, the way that happened, 211 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: being released from Kansas City. UM, I think you always. 212 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: I think that always likes to fire under you. UM. 213 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: And I think, um, no matter where out of gone 214 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: would have gone. Although I'm glad I picked here, I think, um, 215 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: just that whole situation just kind of, like I said, 216 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: kind of that that flame got a little brighter that 217 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: that shows underneath me. So him and I are young guys, 218 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: don't we throw out the thirties jokes already? Yeah? I 219 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: got a few more months in my twenties. I want 220 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: to suck it up. Bobby Ingram talked to you about 221 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: that actually when you came here to visit, Like when 222 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: you guys went out to dinner. Did he talk about 223 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the lineage of free agent wide receivers who came here 224 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: and had success? Uh? You know, not really, you know, 225 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: we we talked about more so uh kind of what 226 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of worries you know, saw me fitting in and 227 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of um, you know, kind of the plan if 228 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: I were to come here and all that good stuff. 229 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: But you know, anytime you get a chance to talk 230 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: to a guy who's played your position, who's been in 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: the league, who had who has had had some success, who 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: understands kind of what you go through on a daily 233 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: being an NFL player. Um So being able to do 234 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: that now at this point in my career, I think 235 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty cool thing. Right. The crazy thing is, too, 236 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: with the parallels between you and Mike is you score 237 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: a forty eight yard touchdown in your first game as Raven. 238 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: He scored a sixty six yard touchdown his first game 239 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: as a Raven against the Bills last year to open 240 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: Week one. Then, as you said, went on the a 241 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: housand yards. So I think we can book you for 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: a thousand yards. More important, let's let's try to get 243 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: this trip to the super Bowl. So just just going 244 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: back a little bit too. After you get signed, you know, 245 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: you're really excited to play with Joe Flacco and stuff. 246 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: How frustrating was it for you you get to practice 247 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: with him in minicamp and then you don't have the 248 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: whole preseason. Just how difficult and kind of frustrating was 249 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: that for you? You know, I was definitely excited. You 250 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: know that that was one of the big reasons why 251 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, I decided to come here. Um, like I said, 252 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I've always had respect, you know, for for for this 253 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: organization from from a distance, and the way that everybody 254 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: has done things here and the way that everybody cares themselves. 255 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: And you know, the stories I heard about Harbors when 256 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: I got to Philly. I guess he had left, believe 257 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: two years before I got there, but it was nothing 258 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: but positive things said about him. So I've always had 259 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: respect from him for a distance, from a distance, but 260 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, having an opportunity to play with with Joe 261 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: was was was huge and you know, yeah, so you know, 262 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: you I was excited coming in and but also understand, 263 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: I've been in this business long enough that um, injuries happened, 264 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: and and when they happened, um, it's the next guy up. Clearly, UM, 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: Joe was phenomenal quarterback, and you know there's a reason 266 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: why why he's done the things that he's done in 267 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: his career. But UM, you know, you gotta you gotta 268 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: roll what you got and um and and I think 269 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: those reps that Mallett got were huge for him and 270 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: his confidence and I think his his um, this whole 271 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: mindset moving forward. But you know clearly Joe is always 272 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: going to be the guy here and um, now that 273 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: we're back and then back in the swing of things, 274 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: I think him and I have off to a really 275 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: good start. How long does this thing of of getting 276 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: released stick with you? Because it's still stick with you 277 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: or you salty about it? Do you care anymore? Like? 278 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: How long does that? You know? It was? It's weird? Um. 279 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: You know the stories have come out are kind of 280 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: about you know, kind of how that's happened, and um, 281 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: you know it. My relationship with with Andy was deeper 282 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: than football. Um. So um. You know, he was with 283 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: me through my cancer scare. He was with me last 284 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: year when I had one of my closest childhood friends 285 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: passed away. So you know, he's been with me this 286 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: this whole way, even when I wasn't coaching me. He 287 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've always you know, I was in contact 288 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: with each other. He was at my wedding, you know. Um, 289 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: I've talked to his wife, you know, on on personal 290 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: having personal conversations. So um, but kind of how that 291 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: whole thing went down, Um, you know I thought that 292 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: our relationship. Um, it should have happened differently. And and 293 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, and when I talked to him, you know, 294 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: he told me that you know, it was you know, 295 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: he was kind of in the blue, was what you know, 296 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: along with me. And clearly as a player, that's not 297 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: really what you're trying to hear. That's not what you 298 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: want to hear. Um. But the events leading up after 299 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: my release to the GM being fired and everything kind 300 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: of makes you think that, Okay, well, you know, I 301 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: don't think he lied to me, and you know what 302 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, But there's some stuff going on. But that's 303 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the business of this game. And while you 304 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: know you may not agree with it, you may not, um, 305 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, really like what's going on. It's it's it's reality, 306 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and I think you know, sometimes 307 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: games and coaches an't on the same page. And and 308 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: sometimes people have powers to make moves when other guy 309 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: didn't know about it. So, um, it is what it 310 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: is when the other guy doesn't know about that Andy. 311 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: You don't think Andy knew about it. I don't know, 312 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, I'm still kind of I 313 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I think he might have known something was 314 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: going on previously, because I heard that they were trying 315 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: to shop me at the combine and all types of stuff. Um, 316 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and I think he might have known that was going on, 317 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: and I thought maybe he thought we might have been 318 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: in the clear because it was so late. I don't know. 319 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I just feel like that whole situation was just kind 320 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: of a little unusual. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But 321 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: you bring this up, and I mean the crazy thing 322 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: is I want to get back into your background really 323 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: as a person more. You know, being released by the 324 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs is not the hardest thing that you've gone through, 325 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: not by a long shot, in your life, and I 326 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about that. I mean, even 327 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: going back to your childhood. Um, you know, you had 328 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: a tough, tough childhood growing up in Kirkwood, and you 329 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: know your mom had cut some issues. Um, you know 330 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: some previous written she was battling alcohol, she was working 331 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: two jobs. Your dad left when you were seven months old. Ye, right, 332 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: So I mean your mom's trying to make ends meet, 333 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: she's working really hard. You get adopted by another family 334 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: from your pev football days. The let me make sure 335 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I get this way to Paris. I was wondering about 336 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: that one. So can you just talk about that and 337 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: and how that molded you at a young age into 338 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: the adult that you are today. Yeah. Man, you know, 339 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit up there like I had it, 340 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, the toughest route that he might have ever had, 341 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: because that's not the case. These people out there that 342 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: had it, that had it worse than me. But um, 343 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: it was an ideal absolutely not. And and and growing 344 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: up with without a father figure, um, you know, with 345 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: with the mother who was who was battling trying to 346 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: make men ends meeting Um, you know, it was tough, 347 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, as a child. And and not necessarily in 348 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: the in the best neighborhood. Kirk was actually a very 349 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: very good community. But there's a place inside Kirkwood called 350 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: Meeting Park. Um. And actually um Brandon lived there for 351 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. I just found that out. Yeah, so 352 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: that's where I grew up at. Um. Not the most 353 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: ideal place to live. Um, kind of back when I 354 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: was growing up. They're kind of cleaned it up a 355 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit. Um. Still still tough for for some kids 356 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: out there. Um, you know, and and and you know 357 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: it it, you know, with that and and and you 358 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: can even fast forward to my cancer scare and everything 359 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: that I've kind of gone through. UM, you know it. 360 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: You know there's there's more to life than football. And 361 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: why I love football. I love to play the game. 362 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: The minute I stopped loving the game, I probably will retire. Um, 363 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: But right now I still love the game. UM. But 364 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: I also understand that you know that there's more to life, 365 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: and you have to enjoy life. UM. This is part 366 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: of life, which is why I enjoy it. But I 367 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: also have to enjoy my wife, also have to enjoy 368 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: my family. Also have to you know, cherish the moments 369 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: I get to split with my friends and and and 370 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: and just and and and now you know, with my 371 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: foundation and everything, and be giving back to some of 372 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: the kids who got raised in similar situations, uh, like myself. Um, 373 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: I think those are things that are just as important 374 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: as going out there and playing on Sundays. And I 375 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: think having gone through what I've gone through has shed 376 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: light on all that and the things that I go through, 377 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: UM doing football, they can't break me. Um. And whether 378 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: it's getting released, whether it's um, you know, not having 379 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a good day. And I remember when I was young, 380 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: I used to say, I come to practice and I 381 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: don't have a good day. Um, you know, yeah, you 382 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: you're upset. But I used to take that stuff home. 383 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't do that anymore. I got a wife at 384 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: home at that you know that that deserves better than that. 385 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: And and that's kind of my whole mindset now. While 386 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: while I'm I'm extremely competitive, you know, I want to 387 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: get everything perfect, but I understand that everything isn't perfect 388 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: right And I think that's everything that that I've gone 389 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: through is kind of helped shape my mindset. Is there 390 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: one story from your childhood that really sticks out when 391 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: you say, man, that was a turning point for me, 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: or that that moment really tested me? I mean, there's 393 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: a bunch man there. There's there's decisions that I made, 394 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: uh you know back in the day that if I 395 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: would have made a different decision, Um, you know, who 396 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: knows what I would be right now? Um, you know, 397 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I grew up around you know, I play literally football 398 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: with friends who have has done jail time. Um, you know, 399 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: and and and and and you know, and I don't 400 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't really look at them any different, you know, 401 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: especially and that it depends on what what what happened 402 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: and what you know what I mean like I was. 403 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: I was facing that same similar situation and and and 404 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, I decided to take a different, you know, 405 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: different role. But um, and and with the help of 406 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: of of people, and the priests clearly play a huge 407 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: role in that and them so I never was officially adopted, 408 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: but them just taking me in and being my segan 409 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: family and you know, me understanding that that was more 410 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: ways of life than kind of what I was living 411 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: and what was going on around me. Um definitely helped me, 412 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, get my mind right and make the right decisions. 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Now to stretch. You could have been the blindside. The 414 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: movie could have been about you. You would have gotten 415 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of money. It's it's actually it's it's similar situations, 416 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: you know. And I've I haven't really I know, Mike 417 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: played her right, so I didn't really get a chance 418 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: to talk to Mike about the movie. But the similar 419 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: the situations are similar a little bit. Um but yeah, 420 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, but that's why I say, you know, there's 421 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: so many stories like mine out there that um, you 422 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: know a lot of these guys have have had a 423 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys in the NFL don't come from 424 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: the prettiest places. Buck Allen actually also has a very 425 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: similar story. Should talk to him. Kind of very similar thing, 426 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: kind of adopted by a family and taken in. I 427 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: mean it didn't stop there though. I mean your study 428 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: high school player, you go in state Missouri, it's a 429 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: big deal. You're getting ready to go there, and then 430 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: you tear up your knee before you can get on 431 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, have your first of two A 432 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: c L injuries. You had another one in the NFL, 433 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: so that really tested you. And then you you kind 434 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: of mentioned it your cancer scared inven right, I mean, 435 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: can you walk us through what happened there? I hadn't 436 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: known about that previously. Um, so you know, I so 437 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: I get to college, um, and I never forget it's 438 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: like one of the last days of summer workouts. And 439 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I have I've had a good summer. I was number 440 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: one ready to recruiting my class. And you know what 441 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and and and and um you know term 442 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: my a c L um and if I had to 443 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: say a turning point and kind of you know, as 444 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: I got older, I think it was that because I 445 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: remember right after that, UM, I was talking to uh, Cindy, 446 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: who's my sergant mom? At the time, and I'm sen 447 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: there like y'all need to come get me. Like I 448 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: wanted to go home. I wanted to just say forget football. 449 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: I was done with it. And you know, she kind 450 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: of talked to me out of it. And I talked 451 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: to my brothers, both my real brothers and my sergant brothers, 452 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: and um, talking to the people on my team, and 453 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: they kind of got me through it because I was 454 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: legit ready to say, Okay, I'm done with football because 455 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: I had never experienced being hurt. I never had to 456 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: sit out a game because I was hurt, you know. Um, 457 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: So that kind of play with me mentally a little bit. 458 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: And I think that was kind of the turning point 459 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: of you know, kind of shaping up my competitive mindset 460 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: and and and just saying, you know, it doesn't matter 461 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: what goes on, I'm always gonna give myself a chance 462 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: to come back and be better. Um. So I did 463 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: that kind of the same thing. Um And in the 464 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: pros when I did the same thing. Um, you know, 465 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: I come off the one in college. You know, I'm 466 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: all American freshman, all American. I come off the one 467 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: in the pros, and I had my best season in 468 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: the nfl UM. So that was just kind of me 469 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: attacking rehab and saying, you know, it doesn't matter. I'm 470 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna give myself a chance to come back bigger, stronger, 471 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: faster um. And then with the cancer scare, man, it 472 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: was it was crazy. You know. I I think the 473 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: not it's the fear of the unknown. And then you know, 474 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: you're going through all these tests and I'm like, okay, well, 475 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: well why am I losing weight? Well? Why am I 476 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: having these night sweats? You know, why I'm having these headaches? 477 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: Why why am I not I don't feel right? Why 478 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: it's my you know, my levels down or this level 479 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: is too high. And I'm like, I don't I don't 480 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: know what's going on. And you're going through tests after 481 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: tests after test and they can't find anything. So I'm 482 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: sitting here like what what what is going on? And um, 483 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: you know it was it was it was. I went 484 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: through this some needle biopsies, did all types of stuff, 485 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: and then one doctor said he thought it was the 486 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: film up. Yeah, he said, he said there's a chance 487 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: I could have lymphoma. So that that so I'll never forget. 488 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I come out the doctor and I got a few 489 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: friends with me, and I'm like, yo, do y'all know 490 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: what lymphoma is? And they were like, no, I've never 491 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: heard of it, you know, And and one of my 492 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: because that's the way we are, one of my guys 493 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: made like a joke and I'm sitting there like, um, 494 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: I said, no, man, I don't think it's like one 495 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: of those weird things. I said, I think it's something serious, 496 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: so I'll never forget. They googled it and one of 497 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: my buddies started crying and I was like, I don't, bro, 498 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: what's what what what's the deal? And he said, you know, 499 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: it's a form of cancer. So I'm in the car. 500 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: I go back into the office, into the doctor's office 501 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: and I actually I need an explanation of you know what, 502 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, like what what that means? And kind of 503 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: talked me through it, and you know, at that time, 504 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I made my mind up, Okay, this is what it 505 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: might be, and this is what it is. I have 506 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: no choice about to fight this thing. And still went 507 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: through more tests. Those test results came back and came 508 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: back negative, and um, you know, it was like a month. 509 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, not a month, a while two weeks After 510 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: that that that last test about on foma. Slowly but sure, 511 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I just kind of started getting better. My level started 512 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: going back to normal, and they just kind of talked 513 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: it up as an inflammatory infection and I was on 514 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: some mantime florentry medicine for a while. And do you 515 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: remember getting the call and they said it is not 516 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: one foama like you remember when they said it could be. 517 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: Do you remember getting the call and they said, yeah, 518 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I remember that day. I also remember um I was. 519 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: I went to the Cancer Research Center in St. Louis 520 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: and somebody saw me there and there was an article 521 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: that came out in the same lowspaper that I was 522 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: spotted there, and it kind of like people kind of 523 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: My mom was like, hey, you didn't tell me it 524 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: was just serious, and I said, I didn't. I don't. 525 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know, like I didn't like because I didn't 526 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: want to start telling people warily the case. So I 527 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: remember that and that was t was a tough day 528 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: because I got all these type of calls and people 529 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: saying this and saying that, and then there was a 530 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: whole bunch of oh, macun has HIV and all types 531 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: of crazy stuff. So I'm sitting there like it couldn't 532 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: have got any worse, you know, so, UM, you know 533 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: it that that call of saying that it wasn't that 534 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: wasn't what it was was definitely a good a good time. 535 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: So wow, well you've been through it all, you know, 536 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: and then now you d up here and we're certainly 537 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: glad to have you here. UM, tell me this, how 538 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: would you be here? Because your wife, Ida is a 539 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore girl, grew up, lived here for first ten years. 540 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: Are you a Baltimore of us? Off for her? Um? 541 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: I would think so, Um, but I think she played 542 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: a huge posts. Well no, she she didn't. She said listen, 543 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm okay, whatever you do, and I'm just trying to 544 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: figure out who to thank you. But what she did 545 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: say it was from the day one. From day one, 546 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: as soon as I got released, UM came kind of 547 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: came home. I was a little upset, but UM, like 548 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: I said, I didn't really bring that home and she 549 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to talk about it, and I'm like, okay, 550 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. So we started talking about it, um, 551 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: and then we sat there and I went through teams 552 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: of kind of you know, world would the world wood? 553 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: I fit and you kind of went through the list 554 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: of receivers and who was on each team, and it's 555 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of where I thought i'd fit in that, Um, 556 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore kind of came to mind and and um, she said, 557 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: there was always something about Baltimore. So when I went 558 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: through the process, even when I went to Buffalo and 559 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: Philly got in the mix, and then some other teams 560 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: that were calling said, Babe, I don't I don't know why, 561 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: but there's just something about Baltimore. So it kind of 562 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: that kind of stuck with me through all my visits 563 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: and everything. And uh, finally I got home when I 564 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: left you guys, and um, I said, Babe, I think 565 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: you're right. I think there's something about Baltimore. And we 566 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: took like an other two days and that was it was. 567 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: It was a fisher after that. It's pretty awesome. Well, 568 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: now you get crab cakes for life, Jimmy, I'm coming 569 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: to see you man. Nice. Well, Jerry, I really appreciate it. 570 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: Thank you for the time about heavy here. All right, 571 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: So thanks again to Jeremy for joining us today. And 572 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, I was he's got an interesting story. I'll 573 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't know all that you know before 574 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: he definitely before he arrived here, and then even before 575 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: we started kind of get until I did the research 576 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: for he did the research and I read about it, 577 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: so I said, all right, cool, thanks for doing the research. 578 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean it's a great team effort around here. Yeah, 579 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: he was. It's an interesting story. He's the thing that 580 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: strikes me about him is he's still mature, and I 581 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: think probably all those experiences have led to that demeanor 582 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: that majority all that. Yeah, for sure, he's he's a 583 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: very mature guy. And you know, congrats to him for 584 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: getting married recently. I just had my ninth wedding anniversary 585 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: years just happened recently right now, mine's in July to July. 586 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're what about older? The mess you got 587 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: heads started. Anyway, I want to thank once again Papa 588 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: John's our sponsor and let you fans. They make it 589 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: happen around here. They do, they do. 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So freaking alright, I paused there. 599 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I can say freaking yeah, you 600 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: can say freaking I say freaking yeah. We don't have 601 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: to bleep that out. Okay, thanks all right, so thanks 602 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: for listening. As always, send us your emails to the 603 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We love to 604 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: hear from you guys, and also make sure you leave 605 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: us a rating and review. We haven't asked for those 606 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: in a little while. Yeah, we need to get back 607 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: to banking, so go ahead and do that. Thanks again, 608 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: every one, and we'll be back with you guys next week. 609 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: When we talked with Offense Alignment Germaine Illumino or brit 610 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Germaine Illuminal ahead of our trip to London, obviously that's 611 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: next week. We're also going to do a live podcast. 612 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: This is double teaser double teaser Germaine Illuminal next week, 613 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: and then the double teaser is that we're gonna do 614 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: a podcast from the Admiralty. I don't know if I'm 615 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: pronouncing that right, Admiralty Admiralty that's our team pub. While 616 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna be over there in London next week, We're 617 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna do a live podcast there in London, uh sometime 618 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: between five and seven Friday night. UM at the pub? 619 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Do they have pumpkin beer? I don't think they do, 620 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: because we've got a number of emails from our friends 621 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: over across the Pond and they all of a said, 622 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about with this pumpkin beer. 623 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Should we bring some pumpkin beer over? I kind of 624 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: feel like if we can, I'm gonna have to look 625 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: into this. Does t s A allow you to if 626 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: you put it in your check. I flew beer from 627 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Belgium back. Maybe we can if we bring over a 628 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: six pack of pumpkins. I think we should, and we 629 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: can give them to our biggest fans, the fans that 630 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: we bring on the pod, they get a pumpkin beer 631 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: to drink with us. It's not a bad idea, like 632 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: like with your headset. Anyway, thanks for listening, and we'll 633 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: be back with you next week.