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Speaker 1: man has this man is that one of the most
Speaker 1: hon't We're gonna speak about everything, but he's been down yo.
Speaker 3: His His album right.
Speaker 1: Now is is fire like gonna lie Listen to this.
Speaker 1: I'm very impressed people don't take that time, that type
Speaker 1: of time off and still come and fresh. In case
Speaker 1: you don't know what we talk about, we talked about
Speaker 1: the one only.
Speaker 3: Stage.
Speaker 1: Be honest.
Speaker 3: The album's really really good.
Speaker 1: Bro got two albums, right, Lessons what is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lesson Never Losses and they stay ready, Okay, let's
Speaker 4: get into lessons and level losses.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: That's a big, big statement, right, and and most people
Speaker 1: they do they I mean, you.
Speaker 3: Know it's lost. It's in life, of course.
Speaker 1: But what this statement is saying, but by you saying
Speaker 1: that is like everything is if.
Speaker 5: It's if a lesson, if it's a lesson.
Speaker 1: Learning that loss, then it's not a loss. Okay, So
Speaker 1: how did you come up with that?
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just one of them things like
Speaker 4: like from from just the experience of being locked up,
Speaker 4: like you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was like, yo, you know what I what I
Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I got my degree when
Speaker 4: I was in there, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, I learned a lot about myself, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So it was kind of fitting when
Speaker 4: I came out and it was like, yo, what was
Speaker 4: you name?
Speaker 3: The album?
Speaker 4: It was like yo, you know it just it just
Speaker 4: happened like that, and it was like, yeah, that that's
Speaker 4: that's exactly how I how my life been headed, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And you did this independent yeah, okay, well samples on
Speaker 1: there though.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you right now.
Speaker 1: Again, like I'm gonna listen to this album and like
Speaker 1: it's like when when when when when Sean came home?
Speaker 3: Like I felt like he lost a.
Speaker 1: Step, Like I feel like I feel like that takes
Speaker 1: away from you not being and being able to touch
Speaker 1: the world. But I'm listening and I can't see that
Speaker 1: with you, like I see it coming from you, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious, Like I'm not sitting here like I'm
Speaker 1: at all, Like I'm gonna sit here listening to both albums.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, So how what was you? You was
Speaker 1: rhyming in the can?
Speaker 3: You can kept?
Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't gonna lie. I definitely, I definitely was. It
Speaker 4: was like it wasn't really no point that I could
Speaker 4: say I stopped, you know what I mean? Like you know,
Speaker 4: lets you know how creative, you know, things don't flow sometime,
Speaker 4: but for the most part, like I always kept kept
Speaker 4: at it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: What now?
Speaker 1: What you're laying music down in the can too? Is
Speaker 1: you're making music in there? Because now everybody got a studio.
Speaker 4: I don't know how they do, but from jail, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: but you know, I definitely did. I actually did lay
Speaker 4: something down over the phone. You know it was. It
Speaker 4: was kind of makeshift, but you know, dudes made it happen.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, you you recorded and then
Speaker 4: like you know, dudes that go back and you know,
Speaker 4: kind of chop everything up, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So we did record some stuff. I was kind of
Speaker 4: like when I came home, I was kind of the
Speaker 4: in the record mold, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, right, And so did you have
Speaker 1: to like practice records or you went straight in and
Speaker 1: went straight straight, straight straight.
Speaker 4: To the booth I came home, Yeah, nah, I kind
Speaker 4: of I kind of was like already kind of season,
Speaker 4: like we had just did an album. We did an
Speaker 4: album in twenty twenty three, right like like right before
Speaker 4: I came home, a joint call influential, Okay from from there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Look at that, Yeah, from you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then so coming So when I came home, I
Speaker 4: was kind of like like right with it, like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, So that was kind of
Speaker 4: how it was like kind of easy transition in a way,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Because obviously when you came you went away, it was
Speaker 1: on the hottest record label, like arguably on the planet.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Was it was? It was it hard to come home
Speaker 1: and and transition into this this independent thing.
Speaker 3: No, I mean not really.
Speaker 4: I mean I had I had to add some good
Speaker 4: product production, you know, got me shout to Lean Brothers,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, cover cover one in the
Speaker 4: in the Boys many They definitely helped help the process
Speaker 4: because you know, I was, like you said, I was
Speaker 4: used to a certain thing as far as music. But
Speaker 4: like before I went in, I mean yeah, actually before
Speaker 4: I went in, I was kind of already kind of
Speaker 4: like going you know, doing the independent thing, like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I was, you know, going
Speaker 4: through what I was going through, and you know, with
Speaker 4: the drugs and all of that.
Speaker 3: So it was it wasn't really like.
Speaker 4: I was doing the thing with Bad Boy like that
Speaker 4: at the time anyway, So I kind of knew what
Speaker 4: that independent life was like. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me that that that you had a slight
Speaker 1: drug problem, but I never I never seen that. So
Speaker 1: was that you how did it? Or you over thinking that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not know, I mean you know, I definitely I definitely.
Speaker 4: Was was what you call like a functional kind of
Speaker 4: do it. I always kind of knew it. I had
Speaker 4: to do things I had and I had children, so
Speaker 4: you know, I always, you know, try to support myself
Speaker 4: type of thing, you know what I'm saying. So, you know,
Speaker 4: but you know I did. I did have a drug issue,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I got to admit that.
Speaker 3: You know, you had it when you went in you
Speaker 3: have to kick it inside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I definitely I had. I definitely was, you know,
Speaker 4: still on drugs, you know what I'm saying. When I
Speaker 4: went in, you know what I mean, I was, you know,
Speaker 4: messing with that dust and all of that, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, so when I went in,
Speaker 4: it was kind of like, you know, it ain't no
Speaker 4: more dust, so here we.
Speaker 1: Go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So, you know, and then it was one of them
Speaker 4: things where I kind of, you know, it was like
Speaker 4: all right, well, you know, what are you getting so
Speaker 4: high for now?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So gradually, you know.
Speaker 4: I kind of just kind of just stepped away from
Speaker 4: a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, and I imagine that the music was kind of
Speaker 2: because you said you continued writing and trying to make
Speaker 2: me music.
Speaker 3: It must have been therapeutic too.
Speaker 1: To tell yeah, hell yeah, hell.
Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't like I was actually writing about anything,
Speaker 4: but it's just the energy that, you know that I
Speaker 4: had the exude to kind of do that stuff.
Speaker 3: It was therapeutic for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm not sure if you know.
Speaker 1: I go on black Twitter, right, it was the most
Speaker 1: negative place on it. I'm right this Twitter. I just
Speaker 1: I go to the nigga section, right, I'll give it
Speaker 1: they got a black The first day I see black Twitter,
Speaker 1: like be positive was the day you came home. That
Speaker 1: was the only time I didn't see people like so
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the hate. I'm looking for somebody liked,
Speaker 1: and I was like the first time. So I want
Speaker 1: to I want to ask you, do you do you
Speaker 1: feel the love from the streets, because the streets smuck
Speaker 1: with you, like genuinely happy you.
Speaker 4: Came home like I ain't gonna lie, Okay, I'm listening
Speaker 4: you felt that, Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, like like
Speaker 4: honestly I was. You know, I'm surprised as well, like
Speaker 4: you know, like like you said, I'm looking for it
Speaker 4: like then you know, but you know, brothers, I think
Speaker 4: I think you know it hit like a spiritual being
Speaker 4: and a lot of people you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and dudes just related.
Speaker 3: They didn't relate when I first did it.
Speaker 4: Though, they were When I first myself in it was crazy.
Speaker 3: They was like like what, like you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So especially being in there, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like I had to explain myself. You know a lot
Speaker 4: of you know, the different you know, different times things
Speaker 4: of that nature, you know, and you know, after a while,
Speaker 4: it seemed like as time went on, you know, I
Speaker 4: would running the brothers and they used to be like, yo,
Speaker 4: I kind of understand where you're coming from, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Especially people that caught like you know,
Speaker 4: had like you know, kill people and killed have bodies
Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: They can relate to whatever you were feeling that made you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people that didn't have that kind
Speaker 4: of situation in jail was like, yo, was like I
Speaker 4: don't understand, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I had to like, yo, listen, did you ever do
Speaker 3: something like that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Brothers just like well, nah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it was one of.
Speaker 1: Them things, and I mean, you know that that's that
Speaker 1: was something real honorable ship like like because like most
Speaker 1: people would have just let that go.
Speaker 4: And so was it was it guilt? I mean I
Speaker 4: think it was more like balance. Okay, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Balance, Yeah, like balance, like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like I felt like, you know, I was
Speaker 4: blessed I had you know, I remember sitting at the table,
Speaker 4: I had my children around me, like I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like you know, you know,
Speaker 4: survivor's guilt is crazy, Like you know what I'm saying, crazy,
Speaker 4: It's like damn you know, so that it was one
Speaker 4: of them things like you know, after a while, I
Speaker 4: started thinking like, yo, you know I should at least
Speaker 4: try to get that, you know, make it right in
Speaker 4: some type of way.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Do you do you huddle up with the family before
Speaker 2: you make that move and say this is what I'm
Speaker 2: about to do.
Speaker 3: With family talking about his family or his family.
Speaker 4: Well, I kind of, you know, spoke on it a
Speaker 4: little bit, you know, not not kind of right like
Speaker 4: at the time when I was doing it, but I
Speaker 4: had spoken you know, what if what if you know,
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like, you know, you know, did this
Speaker 4: back in the days. What if I was just trained
Speaker 4: myself in for that, Like, what would you what would
Speaker 4: you think about that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: You know, nah, you don't that's that's really you know,
Speaker 4: that's in the past and you know stuff like that.
Speaker 4: You know. So I was weighing my options for a while,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: With your kids, you know, change everybody's life.
Speaker 1: If a friend step to you with that same thing,
Speaker 1: would you tell them.
Speaker 3: To turn myself?
Speaker 2: I probably would say nah, man, I don't think I'd
Speaker 2: be like, but again, like we could wouldn't understand what
Speaker 2: was weighing on them, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean I guess I guess. I
Speaker 4: guess you could. You had to, you had to be
Speaker 4: going through it, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's one of those things that like a
Speaker 4: lot of people say, yo, I don't you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know if if I could have did that, you know,
Speaker 4: I think if if you was in my shoes and
Speaker 4: the creative put that in your spirit, you might have
Speaker 4: did it too, you know what I mean. So you know,
Speaker 4: I just be like, I don't really know what to
Speaker 4: say to it at the time, I just I just
Speaker 4: you know, I just tell them it's my.
Speaker 1: Experience in your past. Yeah, that's the most honorable ship
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of my life. Bro. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people would have took that
Speaker 1: and just lived their life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And just like and you you were on you have
Speaker 1: a record deal, Like it's like in retrospect, I can
Speaker 1: see I can see you and look at you and
Speaker 1: just tell your honorable person.
Speaker 3: But still that's it.
Speaker 1: That's that takes an honorable person to admit that, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: It was hard though, I know, I couldn't be.
Speaker 4: I never when I when I was walking into the precinct,
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't believe you doing this, Like
Speaker 4: I'm telling myself that, you know what I mean, Like yeah,
Speaker 4: it was like you know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 4: another person talking to to me, like yo, you know.
Speaker 4: But I was like, you know, it was just something
Speaker 4: that I had to do.
Speaker 1: Man. Well, and I imagine, like I know, jail is
Speaker 1: a tough period, but I imagine like a lot of
Speaker 1: people in the system gave you love for that, like
Speaker 1: get you, like I'm asking, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like, you know, I had a
Speaker 4: different situation, a different experience in there because of that.
Speaker 4: You know, it was kind of like people were like,
Speaker 4: that's you know alone, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like it is what it is, bro, you know. And
Speaker 4: then you know, I was already kind of you know,
Speaker 4: in that in that vein like in that you know,
Speaker 4: going down that path being locked up a lot, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: out there, you know, getting arrested for just you know,
Speaker 4: just all types of shit.
Speaker 3: So I was like, can I curse something.
Speaker 4: Like so yeah, you know, yeah, so you know, dudes,
Speaker 4: dudes had I wasn't like kind of a stranger to
Speaker 4: being locked up like I had just did like a
Speaker 4: bullet like about two years before that and all of that.
Speaker 3: So you know, me being in there.
Speaker 4: Was kind of like like almost normal.
Speaker 2: Dudes like, yeah, that's that, and it might have you
Speaker 2: never knew, it might have saved your life in another
Speaker 2: way that you don't even know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I believe, so, y'all. Wasn't I was
Speaker 4: going nowhere fast? Yeah, I was like, you know, everything
Speaker 4: was kind of just like a desperate, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: attempt at trying to you know, achieve or get back
Speaker 4: to something that you know wasn't there, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: Now, one thing that happened while you was away was
Speaker 1: the passion of Black Rob. And I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: close y'all was. Did you get on through Black Rob?
Speaker 1: The Black Woman put you on? Then you signed the
Speaker 1: Bad Boy? Yeah that's how it happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Or it was like kind of my bro
Speaker 4: my bro knew him.
Speaker 3: You know, he was from the same neighborhood.
Speaker 4: But I actually, yeah, all right, I'm like like a
Speaker 4: block away from him, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: I never actually met him. I knew he, I knew
Speaker 4: he signed.
Speaker 1: And all of that.
Speaker 4: Oh you never met Black Now, I had never met him,
Speaker 4: you know, prior to that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then my man knew him, my man Pooker Broxy,
Speaker 4: he knew he was like yo, yo, he let Rob
Speaker 4: here one of the tapes I had demo tape joint
Speaker 4: and he was like, yo, Rob, He's like yo.
Speaker 3: He wanted to meet you and all of that. One
Speaker 3: of them things. I was like what.
Speaker 4: And one day he came and got me Likeyo, Rob
Speaker 4: up the block. You know what I'm saying, you wanted
Speaker 4: to meet you just come through. I came up, came
Speaker 4: up the block, and he was just like, Yo, you
Speaker 4: know I used to tell you. Yeah, so yo say
Speaker 4: y'all want you on my album? I was like, this
Speaker 4: is the first day meeting. Yeah, first day meeting. You're
Speaker 4: a good dude. Yeah, Like and I mean telling brothers that,
Speaker 4: like his heart was like tremendous day. He wasn't one
Speaker 4: of them dudes that like gate keep anything. Like he'd
Speaker 4: be like yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like that was just how he was like.
Speaker 4: And that's what he did for, you know, for me
Speaker 4: with with the album, Like he was like, come on down,
Speaker 4: you know on the album.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I got on the album and it just so happens.
Speaker 4: The album was in nineteenety nine. Yeah, the life story
Speaker 4: Training cool, so.
Speaker 1: Hard.
Speaker 4: Pierre happened to be there that day and then you
Speaker 4: know that was how I want get shigned.
Speaker 1: Okay, well.
Speaker 3: Special Delivery, Little Wayne Yeah did it over?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where was you at when you found out that
Speaker 1: Little Wayne did it over? And this is argusly one
Speaker 1: of the biggest artists in the world hell yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I was I forgot, I know, I know,
Speaker 4: somebody pulled up and was like, yo, yo, Wayne, did
Speaker 4: you joint over man?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like what you know?
Speaker 4: Then when I heard it, you know, I felt some
Speaker 4: kind of way at first though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was like we all do all do when someone saying, well,
Speaker 3: first a little bit better say I was.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, damn, like why
Speaker 4: would he you know, like it was a single, Like
Speaker 4: you know, you could have picked anything, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, This is my single, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But then like.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, yo, so like I could see
Speaker 4: you take somebody like kind of album cut, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, but like this was my actual single
Speaker 4: that you made his single as well. But then I
Speaker 4: thought about it, you know what I mean, And didn't
Speaker 4: you think about like history.
Speaker 3: Of hip hop like dudes do it all the time.
Speaker 4: And I was just like I dawned on me, like
Speaker 4: a exactly like how many times people in a sample
Speaker 4: Big Daddy came.
Speaker 3: Ain't no half stepping.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. You know what I
Speaker 1: don't like is like when they take the record and
Speaker 1: they make they make it what it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Like I had a record that I dedicated to my father.
Speaker 3: Of course sometimes that.
Speaker 4: Was my joint.
Speaker 1: So a couple of people, don't want to say, a
Speaker 1: couple of people sampled it and they made the record
Speaker 1: kind of like happy, and I was like, this record
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be happy, Like this is a record.
Speaker 3: About my father.
Speaker 1: So that's really when I really take it personally, when
Speaker 1: they take the record like something like that.
Speaker 3: So personal.
Speaker 1: My father was the reason why I loved Wayne and
Speaker 1: the reason why fun we went because Wayne didn't band
Speaker 1: from TV over twice that seriously, but he keeps it
Speaker 1: like that. He keeps it up that alley where it's
Speaker 1: respect us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You can tell he's an artist.
Speaker 1: Artist.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I understood it.
Speaker 4: As time went on, I was like, you know, shout out,
Speaker 4: shout out, d Wayne Man.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, at first, I was like,
Speaker 3: what have you seen Wayne since you've been home?
Speaker 1: Nah? I wonder what a g dep in? Little Wayne
Speaker 1: recommend sound like it sounds like so you know you're
Speaker 1: not drinking. But we we got a game called qick
Speaker 1: time with give us flowers, manos, come on, my mother
Speaker 1: had well officer was about giving people they flowers so
Speaker 1: they could smell them. And bro, this is long overdue.
Speaker 1: We wanted to give you your flowers. Your face you.
Speaker 4: Whoa, I never get over you.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah that's better than so yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Well, we needed to resonate. The drinker could do sunning.
Speaker 1: You can do his man what I meant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he man.
Speaker 3: Don't get it.
Speaker 4: It is long dirty a little yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's crazy New York City. You
Speaker 1: could smoke on.
Speaker 4: Parole, but you can't drink on Hell it's crazy and
Speaker 4: they and they like it really come get you, like, yo,
Speaker 4: you're drinking. Ain't playing chance many I'm not playing. The
Speaker 4: other day the other day, I.
Speaker 1: Jumped out the cars and New York obviously right, I
Speaker 1: jump out the car, and I walked right into dispensively right,
Speaker 1: and I bought. But and I just really thought to myself,
Speaker 1: how many times did I get arrested doing the same
Speaker 1: exactly like you had to be bugging when you came home.
Speaker 3: You still I'm still everywhere they will be bugging. Bro,
Speaker 3: I'm like yo, like that she is unheard of, Like
Speaker 3: that was like a little.
Speaker 4: Richeal, you know, from the police, and now they're like
Speaker 4: yo over. That's just crazy to me, man. But you know,
Speaker 4: it is what it is. It's not legal down here.
Speaker 3: It's approved.
Speaker 1: But I think Trump took that away from y'all from Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: yet during the process of doing they stopped the recreational here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's only medical.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, it's just medically yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it was on the ballot this year. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: gonna make it.
Speaker 1: Took that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, quick time with slime.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you.
Speaker 3: Hold yeah, what what you're drinking?
Speaker 1: Tequila?
Speaker 3: No tequila or tequila? You said, oh tequila, We got it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you two choices.
Speaker 2: You pick one, we're not drinking, you say, basically, you
Speaker 2: don't want to answer.
Speaker 3: You say both are neither. Then we all drink.
Speaker 1: You're not, he's drinking.
Speaker 4: Okay, So one's got two choice.
Speaker 1: Really, this is just bringing up names and stories.
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you pick one, like we're gonna say
Speaker 2: this person or this person, and you pick one, you're
Speaker 2: not drinking.
Speaker 1: Nobody's drinking.
Speaker 3: But if you don't want to really answer, be.
Speaker 1: Like both neither of them.
Speaker 3: We all drink, got to drink.
Speaker 1: You don't answer if you made the question, we're drinking
Speaker 1: and these guys write it over there. Yeah, that's them
Speaker 1: they're doing. It's not us. That's the cocaine session the
Speaker 1: Dominican in Colombia right right there, they do this, not
Speaker 1: a coca.
Speaker 3: Okay, Max B or Jim Jones.
Speaker 4: I had to say, I'm not I'm not too familiar
Speaker 4: with with with Max B's like catalog is as as Jim,
Speaker 4: so I would have to say, gym on that that's fair.
Speaker 1: Camera Mace, camera, Mace.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do.
Speaker 3: You go.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's that's correct answer. That's the kill.
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? That was math fast. That was
Speaker 1: that was quick time with since we drinking and.
Speaker 3: M hm, yoh yeah.
Speaker 1: Sockey is really like a you have to do this
Speaker 1: with a with a partner. You can't drink socky by yourself.
Speaker 1: But I broke the rules already.
Speaker 3: You're pouring into your freezer to cheers.
Speaker 1: My bad.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, drink black raw or big al black wow,
Speaker 4: but big Al I like I like like I like
Speaker 4: you damn Yeah, rest in pizza, rest in piece of
Speaker 4: black Wow, rest in piece of big Al. I had
Speaker 4: to say, I'm gonna go with my bro man black
Speaker 4: Wow Man.
Speaker 2: Give her, give her interact with big l Yeah.
Speaker 3: I definitely, definitely. I met him a few times. That
Speaker 3: was it was cool. Quiet dude, just you know, just
Speaker 3: come do his do his.
Speaker 1: Work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: We never looked like hung out. I met him in
Speaker 4: a few studios. It's like I always ran into him
Speaker 4: in the studio.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1: So, but that had to be a shocking experience too,
Speaker 1: because when you went away, we all had to be
Speaker 1: in the same studios together. Now, motherfucker could just throw
Speaker 1: you send your record. What's that shocking for YouTube?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, but it was kind of like it was
Speaker 4: just where stuff was headed, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like you knew it was headed that way the director.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when I left, I left, I left when
Speaker 4: they you know, still I had an iPhone and all
Speaker 4: of that, you know what I mean, So I understood
Speaker 4: how compact things was going, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like I used to I used to go to the
Speaker 4: I used to go to the studio with the with
Speaker 4: the ps member when PSP's first came out, and so
Speaker 4: I would like like like kind of upload the beats
Speaker 4: to the PSP. Like I was kind of on to
Speaker 4: the technology, you know what I'm saying. So I kind
Speaker 4: of knew that stuff was starting to get to be
Speaker 4: you know, like it was going it was going there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But it's still amazing to me. I love it.
Speaker 1: Technology. Motherfuckers really can make a whole album on the
Speaker 1: phone now, Like beats recorded everything on the phone.
Speaker 3: You don't even any people because they could do it all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, seesion for you.
Speaker 3: Kiss or push your tea.
Speaker 4: I had to say kiss, okay, Harlem World or dip set,
Speaker 4: Hall them World or dip set.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a shot. So you're saying both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying both. Yeah, Hall them World.
Speaker 1: That's that.
Speaker 3: That was masing up. That was Mason Loan, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Uh, Well he got up two shots, right.
Speaker 4: Sugar Jay and all of them shout the shout, the
Speaker 4: blinky blinking all them what no rough riders a Rockefeller
Speaker 4: rough riders a Rockefeller Jamie. I had to say, I
Speaker 4: had to say rough Riders. I know I know them,
Speaker 4: you know, I know them personally, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So ready to die or life after death, Life after death.
Speaker 1: And you got to meet big Big right, Nah. Iin't
Speaker 1: get to meet bay Na. Nah.
Speaker 4: I've seen him one time in the tunnel before before
Speaker 4: I got the and all of that, like just like
Speaker 4: not not really performing, but he was just kind.
Speaker 3: Of just chilling. He was like, that's that bigg Schwans doing.
Speaker 1: He was dumb tall. I was like, man, that's funny.
Speaker 3: He's just him And I was like, why he don't
Speaker 3: have security?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was so shocked not having security to be in
Speaker 1: one of the toughest clubs.
Speaker 3: In the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah. He was like yeah, yeah. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like no club. Yeah. He was saying, you sex, bathrooms.
Speaker 4: It was just like just like God of this case, David.
Speaker 1: You can tell they're trying to give you all them questions. Yea.
Speaker 4: As the fact, Dave Evado, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go with the bro Davis Man. Nas or l L
Speaker 4: you know that was the Queen's question.
Speaker 3: To Long.
Speaker 4: Uh now you said NASO or l L. I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie l l kind of uh uh kind of
Speaker 4: was one part of my you know, my experience of
Speaker 4: getting into one to rap and all that. So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to say, oh man man really hell yeah,
Speaker 4: el Fan, I ain't gonna lie hell yeah yeah hell yea.
Speaker 4: Early I was like, Yo, this kid is Elis Man.
Speaker 1: I can see that, I can see, I can see
Speaker 1: you come home. Or hell yeah, wu tang or public
Speaker 1: enemy mm hmm. I had to go. I had to
Speaker 1: go with pe on that.
Speaker 4: Fight, the Power Baby fight, the.
Speaker 3: Power Rock came a big daddy king Damn not might
Speaker 3: I'm taking the shop every Damn I don't know.
Speaker 4: I had to say both that one. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 4: have to say both too. Odor Curtis blow.
Speaker 1: Comod Man come from Harlem to right.
Speaker 3: Yeah one twittery nice street com.
Speaker 1: We uh talk about the Wild West Haul.
Speaker 3: That's what that's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just like the West Sideways.
Speaker 3: Thinking that, I mean, we would know I noth from here.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't even know, right, But he had to He
Speaker 4: had the Cowboys. Yeah you wouldn't know that too, Pa Easy.
Speaker 4: I had to go with Pok on that one. I
Speaker 4: never met Parking, No, I met Biggie. I never met Park, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would have loved that met him. He another one
Speaker 4: I've seen in the tunnel really yeah. Yeah. It was
Speaker 4: like it was it was just it was ill because
Speaker 4: like you know how the tunnel had that some steps. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: so you walking in no like a like kind of
Speaker 4: towards the back going to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay yeah.
Speaker 4: So so I'm on the top of the steps and
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm like, who the hell is that?
Speaker 4: Like you got the red jacket on with the ball head.
Speaker 3: This is when they was filming above the room.
Speaker 4: So he was in town and so like I'm looking,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, who they You can see like females
Speaker 4: following him and all that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, who the hell is that?
Speaker 4: Like I'm looking, And then he got at the ball
Speaker 4: and then so it was a little closer and I
Speaker 4: could tell it was him. And then like it was
Speaker 4: just like they was just on his body, like they
Speaker 4: was like trying to grab him. He kept like that
Speaker 4: and all I could see is like him just kept
Speaker 4: turning around. I was like, damn, I get popped. It
Speaker 4: was like beides like he was just he was just
Speaker 4: walking through the crowd and then he just like he
Speaker 4: went to the ball like they was just like trying
Speaker 4: to I guess they was trying to get his autograb
Speaker 4: with something.
Speaker 3: He was that guy son ain't gonna lie biz Mark
Speaker 3: here o dB.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 4: Bismark on that one.
Speaker 3: There's some piece of boat.
Speaker 1: I think ODB would go to Bismark with that one.
Speaker 1: He would pick biz he wrapped or cars one. This
Speaker 1: is its gotta be tough. Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 4: I got I gotta go with both fore now Yeah,
Speaker 4: trying to get it, trying to get mob Deep drink
Speaker 4: you're not drinking holdok, I ain't drinking neither hold on
Speaker 4: because I like it.
Speaker 3: The next one I was, you were like you wanted
Speaker 3: to beat me to no no, no no.
Speaker 1: I just like that.
Speaker 4: Mom Deep that he's some hard question. I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: lie man mob Deep.
Speaker 3: But m O p.
Speaker 4: M.
Speaker 3: That's gonna have to take another shot.
Speaker 1: Clips or or e p M d mm hmm e
Speaker 1: p m d okay, spell ye Rocky on a sap for.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the original man a Rocky in
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't gonnat a sap, my man, my homie
Speaker 1: with the Ballymena slippers you had on this out of
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 3: I almost disclaimed he had the ball.
Speaker 1: Somebody pull that up. That's my friend.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 1: Hell, that's the drink, his Canadian whiskey, do everything. But
Speaker 1: those slippers had me hurt.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 3: It was not cool with that. You know I'm talking
Speaker 3: about you see it? And they read too like like
Speaker 3: like he was like, Darthy, I'm Darthy like that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to.
Speaker 3: Kansas, that ship.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: That's why I was. I looked, I was almost texting.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was texting him. I was like, none,
Speaker 1: none of this is gonna come off good. Just let
Speaker 1: this go, let this go.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, that's seriously oh nah, all of that.
Speaker 2: It's really the dory. Maybe he's on the Michael Jackson sip.
Speaker 1: And you know what's so crazy about Sam. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give him the past. I'm gonna give him the past
Speaker 1: because in two years from now, I think people are
Speaker 1: going to be rocking these. They'll follow him, hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll follow him.
Speaker 3: But me personally, I am not.
Speaker 1: Not on this one, you bro the troopers, but there's
Speaker 1: no condition. Is this Harlem the Hallow hallm disclaimed him immediately?
Speaker 1: This is not Hall.
Speaker 3: Them not playing Harlem for that.
Speaker 4: Those is like just basically like shoot, like they look
Speaker 4: like shoes, Like I'm just asking.
Speaker 3: They look like the jelly knives one on the left
Speaker 3: is not the same one he's wearing.
Speaker 1: They did him dirty. Oh, you're right, but it's two different.
Speaker 3: It's more like lowers like loafers, but.
Speaker 1: It's closer straight up, Dorothy, Right, you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got dirty.
Speaker 1: Shoe and you can't really see it. Good.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, okay, there's no pass for that, damn.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be honest. So fucking yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess going crazy, But like that paying him for
Speaker 1: a New Jack City.
Speaker 4: Paid him full or New Jack City? That's tough, man,
Speaker 4: that's both Hallow them to hell. Yeah, well Jack was
Speaker 4: call them too. I'm gonna go with New Jack City.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite question of all loyalty or respect?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a question's favorite one. That's a great question.
Speaker 4: I would have to say, I would have to say respect.
Speaker 1: I would have to say respect. I'm gonna take a shot.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say both both, because loyal loyalty is like.
Speaker 4: That you can respect somebody and kind of not be loyal,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like you know, it's
Speaker 4: kind of respect. It's kind of more more blanket. It's
Speaker 4: like more of a blanket broader statement, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. Loyalty is kind of specific, right, you know,
Speaker 4: but they both kind.
Speaker 1: Of I always say that's strong. That's the only time
Speaker 1: in this whole program that you're supposed to say both,
Speaker 1: because I feel like it goes hand in hand. That's me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's me personally. It does. Give me another shot, though,
Speaker 1: give another shot, Give another shot.
Speaker 3: Before he walks.
Speaker 4: Off that shippy man though Stay Ready album.
Speaker 1: And that was like he killed it, Yo.
Speaker 4: Appreciation yo, listen like one of the producers, hell any
Speaker 4: any any on one of the songs.
Speaker 1: Okay okay okay yo. Bro, I'm I'm not gassing you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Like listen, bro, we be here listening
Speaker 1: to other people's music and we harrified, like before people
Speaker 1: come in, what did we tell this guy.
Speaker 3: About his album?
Speaker 1: Like yes, ship yo, that ship I was really really
Speaker 1: impressed and and the fact is like, I'm not gashing
Speaker 1: you like because.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm listening to your cas I'm listening.
Speaker 1: To your breath control. I'm listening. I was like, he
Speaker 1: had to keep rhyming, he had to keep y like
Speaker 1: you didn't take like it shows and and and by
Speaker 1: the way, if you ain't got these albums, you need
Speaker 1: to go get these albums.
Speaker 4: This is this is dope. Jesus, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I would love this. I would love to get it.
Speaker 4: Collaborate with Let's go, let's go, come on, come on.
Speaker 1: The retirementiate Tim the first left to me the first
Speaker 1: t other day in the shower. It was weird. Sometimes
Speaker 1: got it. Sometimes something would hit me and I smoke
Speaker 1: so much. But I have to write that ship down immediately.
Speaker 1: So I had to write. I had to write. I
Speaker 1: wrote a whole fucking rhyme in the shower. But it
Speaker 1: was like weird because because I kept not getting my
Speaker 1: phone wet.
Speaker 3: But I was like, so I was out.
Speaker 1: I was like, if my wife walking at any point,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look crazy.
Speaker 3: In the phone.
Speaker 1: I felt it, so I just hurried up.
Speaker 2: But hold on, one thing we didn't have on the list,
Speaker 2: Major versus indie now that you've experienced both.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I ain't gonna lie you see. You see,
Speaker 4: I'm still getting used to the indie life, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You see how you know certain things,
Speaker 4: certain things, you know what I mean, You like like
Speaker 4: just for instance, just me being lazy just now, like
Speaker 4: trying to handle everything. You know, it's kind of you know,
Speaker 4: it's a lot, you know, and you kind of you know,
Speaker 4: long for the days where you could just be an
Speaker 4: artist and just like we all the hats like, you.
Speaker 3: Know, he's playing it the right way.
Speaker 1: So I always always, I always say major right, and
Speaker 1: you could relate.
Speaker 3: I relate.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like being on a major label like at
Speaker 1: that height.
Speaker 2: That height now I know, and when you're that artist,
Speaker 2: because you could be on a major label and be
Speaker 2: that is the low end of that list and they're
Speaker 2: not treating you this.
Speaker 1: That's the emotion, you know what correct said. But when
Speaker 1: you are that guy being on bad Boy compares to nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. I remember seeing that bad
Speaker 1: Boy trained like and that ship.
Speaker 4: It definitely definitely trained you. I mean, spoil you.
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm not gonna lie to you. If the go
Speaker 3: from that like me.
Speaker 1: It was fucked up for me because I was wrong
Speaker 1: Penalty Records. Penalty was actually an independent that was signed
Speaker 1: to a major that acted as a major. That was
Speaker 1: an independent, it was a major independent. So was fucked
Speaker 1: up about me. And in the situation with me was
Speaker 1: I had to make it to a certain extent for
Speaker 1: that budget to actually open, because that makes sense. So
Speaker 1: I had to so see y'all, yah, y'all, spoiler man, y'all.
Speaker 1: But we had to, like we had to make a
Speaker 1: certain amount for the major to start acting. So coponin
Speaker 1: Noriega's whole first album was independent.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't get picked up by Tommy Boy.
Speaker 1: Took like two hundred and fifty thousand units, which took
Speaker 1: us a long time.
Speaker 3: I love talking.
Speaker 1: To to people like you because we experienced that that
Speaker 1: like right now, like as you said, you would land somewhere.
Speaker 3: You know, we used to have street wraps.
Speaker 2: I worked, I worked, I mean I worked, I worked
Speaker 2: your records.
Speaker 3: My boy boys, he was on the street team.
Speaker 1: Remember you don't You don't remember when you used to
Speaker 1: land there used to be a street rep who will
Speaker 1: actually pick you up. The whole street team oh yeah,
Speaker 1: street teams I love. So when I went to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, when I went from Nash, I complain,
Speaker 1: I gotta pay for my own car. I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta swipe my crack like yo.
Speaker 2: So remember remember what you're giving up through his ownership.
Speaker 2: You know sometimes it I mean, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as you're willing to give it up.
Speaker 2: But that's what you're giving up at.
Speaker 3: The end of the day, is the owners the catalog.
Speaker 1: It's like me and Ma and dep was just saying,
Speaker 1: a lot of us never had ownership in the first place.
Speaker 1: So when a person samples your record, that's why you
Speaker 1: said at first he was like yo.
Speaker 3: A lot of the times when.
Speaker 1: People sampled my records and it's the records that I
Speaker 1: didn't own, I actually get nothing out of that. All
Speaker 1: I get is a look and a shout out. I
Speaker 1: don't want to shout out of the look.
Speaker 3: But you were never really independent, That's what I'm trying
Speaker 3: to say. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why when you got people like
Speaker 1: us and people sample us and they don't, they don't
Speaker 1: have to clear it through through like I found out
Speaker 1: my record was on Entourage in the movie theater. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. You're being nice to be saying that. Still,
Speaker 1: that's fun up, bro. Like I literally was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: And people turned around they looked at me, and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you wasn't going to tell us? And
Speaker 1: I was like I didn't know, Butal didn't call me.
Speaker 1: They cleared it through par Real all has owner of
Speaker 1: the label.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was it, super dog.
Speaker 1: Remember the producer automatically only fifty percent.
Speaker 2: Automatic, not of the master, and the masters will need
Speaker 2: to be cleared for the for that license. Well whatever,
Speaker 2: unless he made an l deal from the beginning that
Speaker 2: he wants a part of the master, which is which
Speaker 2: which at that.
Speaker 1: Time he was he was eventually later because you remember,
Speaker 1: you gotta remember that catalog was sold so like so
Speaker 1: like like you might like you might bad boys, catalog
Speaker 1: was so so that's what was so fucked up, Like
Speaker 1: my catalog and your catalog, Like if if they sell it,
Speaker 1: you have to deal with a whole nother different regimes,
Speaker 1: people that you never you didn't make.
Speaker 3: The records with.
Speaker 1: Artist artists, Get your ship together, own your masters.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, I say everybody got to be on a major
Speaker 1: for one album.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for one album.
Speaker 2: Got the best way to be on the majors be independent,
Speaker 2: successfully independent. Then you can go and make the deal
Speaker 2: with the major as an independent where you keep your
Speaker 2: ownership and now you just use the machine versus the
Speaker 2: other way around.
Speaker 3: When you come in fresh, they take advantage of everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hell, you definitely learned.
Speaker 4: Learn you learned being a major, I mean being independent
Speaker 4: after being in a major, definitely, Like because it's stuff
Speaker 4: now that I'm like, I kind of like like I
Speaker 4: kind of like got a new respect for majors, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like damn and the money
Speaker 4: they was putting up the.
Speaker 3: Time, Like you know what I mean, Like you know
Speaker 3: how when.
Speaker 4: You finished the album, like with The Lessons Never Lost,
Speaker 4: is I kind of put that together, you know, independently,
Speaker 4: so you know, typing up the lyrics, copyrighting everything, registering,
Speaker 4: registering it on.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Was like I was like, that's why it's hard to recruit,
Speaker 2: because they say, look at all that we had to
Speaker 2: pay for lawyers, more cleric team, the publishers.
Speaker 1: I told you what time I paid for a billboard
Speaker 1: that I never saw. Well, you know that was the
Speaker 1: other hustle too. Oh damn, you're telling me they got
Speaker 1: me the market.
Speaker 3: You know the market It was a thousand, but everybody
Speaker 3: was going on you guess them, you guess them.
Speaker 1: Everybody gave us so much money at that time. There
Speaker 1: was so much money and it was an era that
Speaker 1: was it ever?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you do you.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that that era, like what's your favorite
Speaker 1: era of hip hop? Well, do you believe this is
Speaker 1: the golden years? From nineteen ninety nine to two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I believe so too. I believe.
Speaker 1: Again faced out nineteen ninety nine, like that era Lace
Speaker 1: ninety nine to two thousand and nine. Okay, I believe
Speaker 1: that that's one of the golden eras. I want to
Speaker 1: say ninety eight because my album came out in ninety eight,
Speaker 1: but I could stretch it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody has their own golden eras
Speaker 2: for sure, like yeah, yeah, that is an eraror for sure.
Speaker 4: As far as especially as far as like making money,
Speaker 4: like it was like like the industry was like a
Speaker 4: like a cash cow.
Speaker 3: That was money in the industry.
Speaker 1: Now, I ain't gonna lie. I remember seeing you black
Speaker 1: Raw and I remember seeing y'all perform in Jersey. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember I was just watching y'all. Y'all tore that
Speaker 1: ship down, like describe to people because this is the
Speaker 1: one thing you had.
Speaker 3: Monsters though, but.
Speaker 1: For you, right, because people don't understand we were hustlers
Speaker 1: back then.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, like back in my day,
Speaker 1: Like I hate to sound like the old guy, right,
Speaker 1: but we can actually live over one record. We could
Speaker 1: have one record and live, but we knew how to perform,
Speaker 1: We knew how to have these. Describe people what having
Speaker 1: a hit record is, because I I can't like I
Speaker 1: can't like tell a person who's never had a hit record, like, yo,
Speaker 1: how good of a feeling this?
Speaker 5: It's like describe to the Yeah, it's like when you
Speaker 5: when you when you got when you play Mario Brothers
Speaker 5: dress and you hit that brick that this ship just like.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 3: That's what having a hit records like, don't it just don't.
Speaker 4: Stop like you get it's just that you get like
Speaker 4: constant gratification, like you know what, that's the word.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what it's like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Crazy, It's like you hit that break, that magic break they.
Speaker 1: Always say like they always say that that crackheads chased
Speaker 1: their first high, like the first time that they got high.
Speaker 1: If you're artists, you for the rest of your life
Speaker 1: chase that hit record again. Don't give a fuck who
Speaker 1: you are, don't give before how much money you got.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most phenomenal feelings ever in life,
Speaker 1: like and like just being able to go to a club,
Speaker 1: see somebody look at you and know that they know
Speaker 1: every word to your fucking record. It's one of the
Speaker 1: most phenomenal things ever in life, man, And I hope
Speaker 1: everybody could experience that once in their life. Like it's
Speaker 1: beautiful man, and especially this that era, that that that
Speaker 1: we were in. So now it's also that famous clip,
Speaker 1: right even though they heard heard you say that his
Speaker 1: son's called you and pulled up on you.
Speaker 3: Oh for when the day the day we went we met.
Speaker 1: That five, I felt that five when you're I was like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, but I want to commend you. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why I want to command you. You
Speaker 1: couldn't fake that five.
Speaker 3: That five when kept going like this, it was good
Speaker 3: to see the broad.
Speaker 1: That's real love. Break there like we always get it.
Speaker 1: We always get the bad side or did it? That's
Speaker 1: what people always say. And I love what you said.
Speaker 1: You said, I believe I forget really said this stuff.
Speaker 1: She was like, I don't know that, Like the bro,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that to me. I say that ship
Speaker 1: and I look crazy when you said that. Everyone believe you.
Speaker 3: But so yeah, I peep that too.
Speaker 1: That was that was a dope moment, Like, so what
Speaker 1: was that moment?
Speaker 3: Like for you?
Speaker 4: It was more, it was just it was just a
Speaker 4: genuine moment like seeing somebody you haven't seen in a while,
Speaker 4: Like you know, I couldn't think of I couldn't think
Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't really think of like you know,
Speaker 4: you know, like kind of put the politics and all that,
Speaker 4: like I couldn't even think that way with them, Like
Speaker 4: you know what I mean genuine.
Speaker 1: I did said earlier, like I admire you, bro, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, like I admire you, bro,
Speaker 1: because it's like I don't know if you knew what
Speaker 1: you did at that moment, but you you first off,
Speaker 1: the internet is broke, oh ship gee up and is
Speaker 1: together and Harlem like yeah, but it was it was
Speaker 1: I can tell it was so genuine coming from you.
Speaker 4: You know, we were kind of talking before that, Like
Speaker 4: it wasn't like that was the first time.
Speaker 1: They hollered him. Was like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I had I had spoke to him
Speaker 4: like probably about a week or so after I came
Speaker 4: home and we was been trying to get up.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I want you to come down here.
Speaker 1: I want to see the tweet outs like let's work
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Hit me up and Stevie J contacted me, Oh you
Speaker 4: want to hoigher at you you know, we spoke FaceTime
Speaker 4: a few times, you know what I mean. And so
Speaker 4: then that that day was just one of the days
Speaker 4: they was in town, you know, and kind to find
Speaker 4: out that's why he was in town.
Speaker 1: Because you got to you know and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: So you know, that was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: we was already kind of like in the line of
Speaker 4: you know, you know, messing with each other and all that.
Speaker 4: So when you know, when he came through, it was
Speaker 4: just like shut like, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I heard you say, I heard you describe that
Speaker 1: moment as he was regular.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, it's super regular man. He was like, yo,
Speaker 4: so what you want to do. I was like, you
Speaker 4: don't got nothing to do? I was like hell yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like what you mean. I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: all right. So he was like you won't get me
Speaker 4: saying to eat it something. I was like, yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then we just went and
Speaker 4: he was like all right, and then like we just went.
Speaker 4: We were just riding around all of them, like then
Speaker 4: we went up there, we shot around to uh. We
Speaker 4: was trying to go to see Dougie Fresh real quick
Speaker 4: to find him. So we like shot down the West
Speaker 4: Side highways like super regular. I'm riding around and the
Speaker 4: Phantom is so crazy with the stars and the like
Speaker 4: you fresh out Hell yeah yeah, it just you know,
Speaker 4: it was regular man.
Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna ask you. First off, the man
Speaker 1: is not guilty, right, he's not guilty, But did you
Speaker 1: ever think ten years ago, fifteen years ago that he
Speaker 1: would be in jail?
Speaker 4: Hell no, that's that's that's just crazy to me. That's
Speaker 4: just crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Like I was even saying this like that, it seems
Speaker 1: like we're playing around.
Speaker 4: That's the fact, like it used to it was like
Speaker 4: it was like he was he was the scapegoat to
Speaker 4: like just snap on, like.
Speaker 1: Yo, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: He's just been this. He's just out of his mind.
Speaker 4: But you never would think he was really getting locked up,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like that was the
Speaker 4: firstest thing from out of my mind, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like regardless or whatever, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: he was a high strung dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I didn't, like I would never think he would
Speaker 4: be locked up.
Speaker 1: What's the plans? You're opening your own label? What you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? What we're doing?
Speaker 3: I mean I do. I do have the label.
Speaker 4: I started the label when I was when I was
Speaker 4: locked up in twenty twenty three. About call them black
Speaker 4: market black market group recordings, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's because you know, when you put out stuff
Speaker 4: on the DSPs, you gotta you gotta put it through
Speaker 4: a label.
Speaker 3: You don't want to know that, Yeah, like you gotta.
Speaker 1: You can't just be You can't put.
Speaker 3: Your name yourself victor and just throw out your record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can't. And then you right, so you
Speaker 1: can't just upload the iTunes on your own.
Speaker 4: You gotta go through the incorporated distribution site like dis
Speaker 4: your Kid or two Empire.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I know that, yeah.
Speaker 3: Lomanati.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people that.
Speaker 4: Got illuminized what I'm saying, and people that got like
Speaker 4: a name, like you can see how like if they
Speaker 4: do things on their own, it's a lot to do.
Speaker 3: But like, yo, you you could really.
Speaker 4: Like really like kind of cake off, like you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's just.
Speaker 3: You, like you know what I mean, right direct eighty
Speaker 3: twenty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yer goes to the.
Speaker 3: Tom Cars or some of them.
Speaker 4: Some of them don't even have that set up, like
Speaker 4: they just want you to pay them, like they get
Speaker 4: you could pay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just give give me one hundred dollars a
Speaker 3: year a subscription to put up ship SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: I don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2: The tech companies are the new major labels, sucking everybody over.
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent for sure, because imagine they don't
Speaker 2: got to do no physical ship. All this ship is presal,
Speaker 2: but it goes out.
Speaker 1: And they ain't making money, so they're not making money
Speaker 1: and the day from.
Speaker 2: Anybody that wants to be an artist, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, but still got to pay for his album cover
Speaker 1: Ye used to gotta pay.
Speaker 2: For word yourself making up covering changing quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 4: I know people it seemed like like like like a
Speaker 4: lot of because you know, I'll be on the internet.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing this independent thing, so I see
Speaker 4: like the response from those AI generated kind of things
Speaker 4: like people, people was kind of like they're.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But sooner or later, like that's just gonna be it.
Speaker 3: I see it.
Speaker 2: But graphic design is easy like for people not to
Speaker 2: even notice it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you definitely could could get.
Speaker 2: It and eventually like they making it look like it's
Speaker 2: real life.
Speaker 1: Ship. Yeah. I saw a Block May smoking the blunt
Speaker 1: with Snoop Dogg the other day. I lost it. I
Speaker 1: knew it was fakest that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to a point where we know it's fake,
Speaker 3: but we want to believe it. I want to people
Speaker 3: are just gonna get in this weird thing where I
Speaker 3: know fake, but I'm still gonna write with it like
Speaker 3: that might that might you might be.
Speaker 2: Writing, We're changing psychology that we don't even understand right.
Speaker 1: This moment, Like wow, man, yeah this person. I want
Speaker 1: to pick him up, and I felt like using AI
Speaker 1: and chat g BT correctly it's being well yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that video. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the videos. He sounded like himself and in that case
Speaker 1: that's what AI now much because because you know, create
Speaker 1: his voice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So like with that, he went, I believe this for
Speaker 3: this was real. I don't even know which that's the
Speaker 3: the world we live and we don't know.
Speaker 2: We gotta always caveat with I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is real, but I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that thing that's dope that I think
Speaker 2: that's a positive side of there's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: positivity to.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I am show some positivity. But then
Speaker 1: will I am scared the ship out of me too.
Speaker 1: What he had a Voto, he's a voto. No, he
Speaker 1: had about he got a Voto on his AI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could be anything. You want to do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he got a Mexican do you fuck with.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not. She was scary because I will do regular
Speaker 3: ship with it. Oh, I thought about something else.
Speaker 2: Mexican Mexican a Mexican accent he had.
Speaker 1: He had his GPS with Mexican accident. Thought that was
Speaker 1: so jump accident.
Speaker 2: Start talking slang, and the more you talk to it,
Speaker 2: it'll talk to you in a way that you talk
Speaker 2: and something.
Speaker 1: Say Spanish hollow and that shit starts speaking like the
Speaker 1: dudes at the handball court.
Speaker 3: You you don't have to type to it anymore. You
Speaker 3: can talk to it direct.
Speaker 2: So what I was saying the creepy ship for me,
Speaker 2: I was, I do regular ship, like just like almost
Speaker 2: like Google certain ship. I don't talk to it now,
Speaker 2: and she will hear my kids sometimes in the background.
Speaker 2: One day he said, Hey, how's your kids doing today?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 1: No, no fucking way no, I'm now wait wait, ready
Speaker 1: for that feature one hundred percent said I'll be like,
Speaker 1: but I you know, I'm on some weird ship.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna be nicer this ship because in
Speaker 3: the future make.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: He was like, like, how you doing, I'm doing, cret
Speaker 3: how are you Eric? How are you kids?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 4: Yo, that's crazy, you say that, I said, I said,
Speaker 4: I said, I told her to thank you. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, I said, yeah, I said Jack yeah to
Speaker 4: Siri or one of them.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: She said, you.
Speaker 1: Made me feel like like he was painful. Like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I got to be scared. It's creepy.
Speaker 3: That's creepy.
Speaker 2: But you know what, we're not stopping this ship, so
Speaker 2: we got at least understand.
Speaker 4: It, engaging in it with it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because it's going. Yeah, well I was in the crib
Speaker 4: by myself too. I feel like like kind of like
Speaker 4: h like a connection, like I was like ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's a dude that she's welcome.
Speaker 2: You saw the dude that he's like, he's married and
Speaker 2: he's dating his chat Oh yeah, one was cool with it.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, as long as he ain't doating a
Speaker 1: a person.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's real. Yeah, that's a movie like that,
Speaker 3: a movie like I.
Speaker 1: See that he was in love with. He didn't have
Speaker 1: a real wife though has a wife. It is real life.
Speaker 1: He's in low.
Speaker 2: He's got he trained it to talk like a certain woman,
Speaker 2: and he takes this is the thing is if you
Speaker 2: keep talking to this thing.
Speaker 3: He learns who you are and doesn't forget anything.
Speaker 1: You say.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why he knows I have
Speaker 3: kids because I heard him.
Speaker 1: I drink too much for that ship. You know what
Speaker 1: you want? You want to know show you know, don't
Speaker 1: you pour? You don't look like.
Speaker 4: Whoa.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I made a record, uh in nineteen ninety seven called
Speaker 1: ww dot Nori, and I was talking about nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3: You could look at them up. I'm not a cat.
Speaker 3: I'm friends with Captain Country. I'm not the cat guy.
Speaker 1: And I was talking about this technology. Shit, I have
Speaker 1: no idea where it's going right now. It was you
Speaker 1: had you talked about like how it's about like the internet,
Speaker 1: because like like I was the first person to have
Speaker 1: a two way pager. I was like, I always liked
Speaker 1: the technology, but I would like it to show off.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like it to actually use it, right.
Speaker 1: I would, you know.
Speaker 3: I was one of the first people went around on
Speaker 3: a camera. So, but where it's going now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: It just kind of made me feel like as far
Speaker 4: as far as the matrix and the assimilation, like we
Speaker 4: kind of like on some weird loop, like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like we've been cooming that that that
Speaker 4: already were like like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like we're almost stuck in
Speaker 2: a cycle, like we became them and then like then
Speaker 2: that was over, and then we came back to humans
Speaker 2: and now were back to No.
Speaker 1: I guess what I kind of understand what it already
Speaker 1: happened already.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 2: What do y'all think about the Timberland and the AI artists,
Speaker 2: because that caused controversy.
Speaker 1: To Timberland got an artist.
Speaker 2: He started I don't know if he started AI label,
Speaker 2: but he started label and he's his first artist is
Speaker 2: an AI completely AI artist.
Speaker 3: He cut a lot of a lot of like negative
Speaker 3: you know, I would I would think that's dead. They
Speaker 3: was bombing him, Yeah, there was. He had he had
Speaker 3: a zoom call think it was who was on the call? Uh,
Speaker 3: Young Guru who else? And and they told him they
Speaker 3: didn't like this. Yeah, they told him they didn't agree
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah to his face.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know I heard.
Speaker 2: Chuckie Thompson, right the producer, He was on the Breakfas
Speaker 2: Club and he said something that that kind of made
Speaker 2: sense to me though. He said, if you were timbling
Speaker 2: at this point in your career, you've done everything. AI
Speaker 2: is like another tool, like another beat machine, and you
Speaker 2: probably don't want to deal with artists anymore who don't
Speaker 2: want to take your ideas the way you see the ideas.
Speaker 2: So you probably say, I'll just deal with it. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna talk back. It's not gonna not gonna say
Speaker 2: ship to me. It's another beat machine. But even better,
Speaker 2: you know, make a whole group.
Speaker 4: Agree with that.
Speaker 1: But I gotta have his own.
Speaker 2: I understand that idea, like, yeah, I get it, you know,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of controversy around it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely signed on an AI artist to you
Speaker 1: with it under Boris Productions. Crazy Crazy is.
Speaker 3: Gonna make himself with the accent and everything.
Speaker 1: Now, now, now this is what was the first thing
Speaker 1: you you you did when you got out of jail.
Speaker 4: The first thing, the first thing I did was actually
Speaker 4: that I wanted to do McDonald's. Nah.
Speaker 3: I went with some I went and bought some gum. Wow,
Speaker 3: tried it.
Speaker 4: No, it was just I just any gum because you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you can't you can't, you can't chew gum.
Speaker 3: I don't know. They don't let you. They don't let
Speaker 3: you get you get gum, and they keep it.
Speaker 1: Not hold.
Speaker 3: So much, so much close.
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing, is that.
Speaker 3: The first thing bringing in more, no in in this
Speaker 3: way so it doesn't fall. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: So that's the first thing you did. That's the first
Speaker 4: thing I did. Man, first meal you had, the first
Speaker 4: meal I had was aha, I did see that. Y'all
Speaker 4: went to the pancakes. I didn't even get it. I
Speaker 4: didn't get pancakes. I bought cheeseburger. Cheeseburger, let's make mouch
Speaker 4: you you don't let you have it?
Speaker 1: Word that. So because everybody that did more than six months,
Speaker 1: they always say the first thing I'm gonna do when
Speaker 1: I get home.
Speaker 3: Did you live out everything that you said when you
Speaker 3: get home? Nah, I didn't even try.
Speaker 1: I love your because like you, you've.
Speaker 4: Come home and you say you want to do this,
Speaker 4: but you just do the first thing you see.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, oh, word, I ain't
Speaker 3: do that. No, I ain't do that. No, I ain't
Speaker 3: turn the light on in a.
Speaker 4: Minute like this, just the hell things like yeah, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's how I still go through this, go do that.
Speaker 4: I use it as excuses now, like yeah, I ain't
Speaker 4: have a a Sarah Lee piece of cases.
Speaker 3: I've been home, like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: I just use it for the hellest thing now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You come home, you see all this this the world
Speaker 3: has changed. I cannot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a example of me, but this
Speaker 1: is not a good example. But me personally, I lived.
Speaker 1: I moved to Miami, and I stayed out here like
Speaker 1: six to eight months, which is saying it's not a
Speaker 1: good example, right, but hit me out. But I went
Speaker 1: to Times Square and the minute I went to Times Square,
Speaker 1: I almost cried because I seen so many people. And
Speaker 1: in Miami, I get to see who the fuck I
Speaker 1: want to see. If I don't want to see people,
Speaker 1: oh gotcha, I can. I can stay the fuck out
Speaker 1: of the way. In New York City, you have no choice.
Speaker 1: I walked through and I seen I don't I want
Speaker 1: to say, like three thousand people across the street, and
Speaker 1: I literally I was smoking cigarettes at a time. I
Speaker 1: literally was like and I had to run upstairs. The
Speaker 1: water in my face. I said, you're New York a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It's not bad, yeah, because I was, you know, this
Speaker 1: is recently saying no, this is this is, this is
Speaker 1: this was like when I, like when I first moved
Speaker 1: here and I stayed here for the first year and
Speaker 1: I went back for the first time, I had to
Speaker 1: like really, I had to like literally throw water on
Speaker 1: my face and I had to act tough because you know,
Speaker 1: just to tell you truth, like New York is is
Speaker 1: just tough for no reason. I had to go upstairs.
Speaker 1: I was saying hi to people said hi. You know
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was being nice. I went to the club the
Speaker 3: night before.
Speaker 1: This is all I knew. I was out of the touch.
Speaker 1: I went to the club the night before and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, everybody else my friends is like what
Speaker 1: the fucking smile. I'm like, I'm happy, Like just in
Speaker 1: New York. We're not happy here. That's crazy. I had
Speaker 1: to like turn on my ice girl.
Speaker 3: So now that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. That's a little portion. Was that something
Speaker 1: that you had to kick back.
Speaker 4: On when you when you came home, Well, actually it
Speaker 4: was kind of the opposit shit for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I had to dial it down, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying coming out of Miami.
Speaker 2: None.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Even my wife to like to this day, she'd be like,
Speaker 4: your relax, you know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I definitely had to like kind
Speaker 4: of and I still be having to catch myself, like
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, you know, like
Speaker 4: when you come home, you know, you kind of always
Speaker 4: used to dealing with things in a certain way, like
Speaker 4: you know, you know, everything straightforward, no bullshit, like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, so when you come out
Speaker 4: and dudes is you know, slow dragon stuff and you
Speaker 4: know it's cool we home, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You know it's not that serious.
Speaker 4: You know, I said I had to you know, I
Speaker 4: had to definitely dial it down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He making me think of remember that scene in American
Speaker 2: Me but Homie went to buy the shoes.
Speaker 3: Don't look at me, puppet, no no, no, no order.
Speaker 3: He was trying to get the shoes and the dudes like,
Speaker 3: I'll be right with you.
Speaker 4: And he.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me hell yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like that though, you know, like stuff that people
Speaker 4: do in jail, you know that that it's like kind
Speaker 4: of real disrespect you know what I mean, you kind
Speaker 4: of bring a lot of that with you, you know,
Speaker 4: since you gotta kind of catch yourself, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot, there's.
Speaker 1: A lot of adjustment baking. So we we we we
Speaker 1: get the album together. You realize that you're independent. You
Speaker 1: realize that you had to do all of this right.
Speaker 1: Was this something if you had a chance to do
Speaker 1: it all over? And let's say did he wasn't in
Speaker 1: the position he is. He was in a position he
Speaker 1: was back then when you went away? Would you have
Speaker 1: we signed with him?
Speaker 4: It's still you say that because when I when I
Speaker 4: got with him, I realized that because he was like yo,
Speaker 4: like like like we're gonna do some music depth Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He was like, Yo, I
Speaker 4: got you know, he actually had a joint for me.
Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, I want you on to say.
Speaker 4: I can hear that you wrote a lot of his joints.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote a few. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can hear it in him like, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: hear it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so when he said that, I felt kind
Speaker 4: of like in my gut like I was like, damn,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't. I don't kind of want that,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I don't want
Speaker 4: the same g Depp you know, Puff relationship. I kind
Speaker 4: of wanted like the business relationship more. Yeah, like a partnership,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. So when he said that,
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But in my mind, I'm like, yeah, we gotta kind
Speaker 4: of negotiate things though, you know what I mean, However
Speaker 4: we do it, you know what I mean. So, So
Speaker 4: to answer your question, you know, if I did come
Speaker 4: out and like he had, situation was like it was,
Speaker 4: I would have you know, I would have just came
Speaker 4: at it like from a business standpoint, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I definitely would have would have rocked with him.
Speaker 1: The kid.
Speaker 3: The kid is a genius when it come to music.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, kid is ill with him.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you because I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's a rumor that Puff gave back all of
Speaker 1: his artists publishing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you a part of that? Yeah, Okay, he gave.
Speaker 4: Back the published Yeah, I kind of I still gotta,
Speaker 4: you know, eyeing some stuff out with that because at
Speaker 4: the time that he did that I was coming home, okay,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it was kind of
Speaker 4: like then and then when I came home, he got
Speaker 4: caught up into what he was going on. I had
Speaker 4: going on, so like the lawyers kind of dissipated, so
Speaker 4: I'm still, you know, trying to get that going on.
Speaker 3: But he did.
Speaker 4: He did give me you know what I mean, that's
Speaker 4: real well hell yeah, real, hell yeah. And I imagined
Speaker 4: to fight for my puffy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember like him telling me like casually,
Speaker 1: like you heard the rumor, and I was just like
Speaker 1: he told me, like yeah, casually, there's like yeah, I
Speaker 1: gave all my artist back to publishing.
Speaker 3: And he just kept talking.
Speaker 1: He just he kept moving and I was just like
Speaker 1: he said it so nonchal so casual that I brushed
Speaker 1: it off. I never I never said that. I never
Speaker 1: nothing about it until I believe I think the locks.
Speaker 1: The locks said that they got their shipped back. I
Speaker 1: believe I believe that they said they got their ship back,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, wow, that's that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's kind of ill, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It is it is because like that what that means
Speaker 4: is like now as far as like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like I ain't gotta tell you
Speaker 4: got into the audio story, Like well yeah, so like
Speaker 4: you now like you can get you could place and
Speaker 4: place your music like you know what I'm saying, if
Speaker 4: you want to get it and you gotta you know,
Speaker 4: minus the beats, but even if you might be able to,
Speaker 4: you know, strike the whole deal.
Speaker 3: How that the producers, Yo, look.
Speaker 4: Your dude want they want They want to put this
Speaker 4: in Fast and Furious twelve or something. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean yo, ye whole before? Oh yeah, so you
Speaker 4: know that. That's that's that's big man. The dude, the
Speaker 4: dude uh Morock from from Hood Fellas Okay, he the
Speaker 4: one that hollered at me about that. Yeah, when I
Speaker 4: was locked up, he hit me up on the on
Speaker 4: the key I he was like, yo, you know, Pug
Speaker 4: giving that back and all that sot out. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: he gave me the lawyer's number and all that.
Speaker 1: So not only that it is after twenty something years,
Speaker 1: after twenty yeah, get your masters.
Speaker 4: Yeah I understand understanding. I don't got a full understanding that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so it depends on what you signed because.
Speaker 1: Back then they had standard contracts, right, But then there
Speaker 1: was some particularly so a lot of people they hit
Speaker 1: twenty years and the masters already will come back to them,
Speaker 1: some forty five and some is like thirty. Every one
Speaker 1: of us have that limit. We have that in our contract.
Speaker 1: Like it's who unless we were that word perpetuity, Oh
Speaker 1: what word purportuity?
Speaker 3: Or why universe? They that ship was crazy?
Speaker 1: That word proper is a very dirty word. That's dirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very time they gonna put that in
Speaker 3: a contract.
Speaker 1: We don't an opportunity. We can't even pronounce that ship,
Speaker 1: like we don't know.
Speaker 3: Venus when we died.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that they can actually claim our rights after
Speaker 1: you're dead.
Speaker 2: Like, that's crazy. You know what there's there is, there's
Speaker 2: your family, and there's the states. And that's why they
Speaker 2: do that. They don't want your state to get anything.
Speaker 2: And that's dirty. Yeah, that's like, come on, bro, that's dirty.
Speaker 1: That's why I like what we're doing with Drink Champs, podcasts,
Speaker 1: Drink Champs and network. Everyone who signs to us, they
Speaker 1: own their own stuff. We do not want to be responsible.
Speaker 1: We want to put you in the right way.
Speaker 3: We can't really, We just trying to set you up
Speaker 3: and then you can go.
Speaker 1: You can go.
Speaker 3: Yes, we want to practice with podcasting.
Speaker 1: So everybody. We got Memblee, we got Angela Simmons, we
Speaker 1: got Grumpy OG's, we got Fatherhoods, we got Washstalkers, we
Speaker 1: got run Champs, Healthy High and every single one. We're
Speaker 1: setting up as they own entity no one. So if
Speaker 1: it does not mister Lee speaks English, that's a new podcast.
Speaker 1: It's a comedy. Mister Lee speaks cocaine. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a much better. But that's what I love what we're doing,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like we want to
Speaker 1: I want to practice re pre and I think all
Speaker 1: of the industry should be like that. But but let
Speaker 1: me let me get back to that. That giving back
Speaker 1: the publishing ship. I thought that was the honorable ship
Speaker 1: because you never heard in Scope do that. You never
Speaker 1: heard Sony Music do that, never heard that, you never
Speaker 1: heard of Columbia do that, you never heard of death
Speaker 1: jam to do that? Like this is a personal person
Speaker 1: who did that.
Speaker 2: I think that's that was I want to I want
Speaker 2: to reverse things a little bit further back for you
Speaker 2: when you were just a hip hop kid, Like what
Speaker 2: what are the artists that inspired.
Speaker 1: You to want to rhyme.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you said LLL was one of them,
Speaker 2: but that he like really shaped you as an artist
Speaker 2: and to like gave you that passion for hip hop.
Speaker 3: I mean I had to.
Speaker 4: I had always tell people Big Daddy, Kane, King Cainan
Speaker 4: and rock Him and you yeah, hell yeah, those those
Speaker 4: those brothers like literally like you know, I used to
Speaker 4: used to just stay at the pay the full album cover,
Speaker 4: like damn, like looking at the like used to be
Speaker 4: like saying, you know, King, you know he was small
Speaker 4: with it, you know, you know uh his uh you know,
Speaker 4: his word playing all that stuff.
Speaker 3: He used to say to pick a B C D
Speaker 3: your history like du yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, so those those dudes like that was that was
Speaker 4: kind of you know, I had a big five you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, King Top five King by Kim
Speaker 4: Cougi rat K and I would have to say, you know,
Speaker 4: you know why, but well how many did our name
Speaker 4: is now for? Yeah you can go six?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it was that dude back then to me,
Speaker 4: Special lads especially was that dude.
Speaker 1: Big specially of Slack from coming on this show just
Speaker 1: because of that one comment, but that that's my man.
Speaker 3: He said that west he said the West coast.
Speaker 1: Literally the people who.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're messing up what he actually I'm messing up.
Speaker 3: And by the way I did see it, I'm glad
Speaker 3: he brought this up. Someone AI and changed up the
Speaker 3: question a little bit.
Speaker 1: The edited edited, they chop it up. That's what happened
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 3: I seen Special saying that's the show who did that?
Speaker 1: And that that wasn't us. It was like, we don't,
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't, we don't do that.
Speaker 4: We just.
Speaker 1: Didn't even know. Look, but I want to share something
Speaker 1: because you said somebody we finished the top, Yeah, especially
Speaker 1: especially Glad Or you want to throw els who I
Speaker 1: didn't say l say, oh yeah, so the queens and
Speaker 1: me caught that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay who from there is Harlem.
Speaker 4: That it really really wasn't no all them Hall them
Speaker 4: like representative represented the only person that was kind of
Speaker 4: you Fresh, Teddy Rally, Teddy Valley, Teddy Valley, Rob Bass.
Speaker 3: Listen do sleep on rob Bass.
Speaker 1: Sleep Let me say Rob basis in my playlist like you.
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest records in hip hop. That's
Speaker 1: the fact and you play that record, you'd be.
Speaker 2: Like, whoy you listen to it? You'd be like, you
Speaker 2: feel you want to listen to it? That the great
Speaker 2: the greatest record. What I see I didn't even know
Speaker 2: there were hard on because I'm in Miami.
Speaker 1: Was they're still crazy, They're still touring. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember, Left Rock had a party, he had
Speaker 1: robb As, he had total Loak, he had uh, damn
Speaker 1: who else by nature? So they still touring. Damn, they're
Speaker 1: still talk that's the way.
Speaker 3: But Rob Base is still around and he's still out there.
Speaker 1: And who did I see? I see Chuck Rock the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 3: Shoe Brocket is killing it though man's smart. I've never
Speaker 3: had a dumb conversation with tub Rock, and we need
Speaker 3: him on drinks.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of dumb conversations, like a dumb
Speaker 1: conversation God like.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: But okay, what's your first favorite place to perform but
Speaker 3: that I performed or would like to perform both?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: I would have to I would have to say manage
Speaker 3: the s great.
Speaker 1: Guard and I would love to rock perform.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I haven't performed there, but uh we performed
Speaker 4: one time in uh and uh in Na'shall. And that's
Speaker 4: all the time that we that we saw each other.
Speaker 4: Not that's all is an about Bahamas, that's all. And
Speaker 4: that's all. And Long Islandake. Yeah, we performed there one
Speaker 4: time and that day, you know, the crowd was just
Speaker 4: just crazy, like man, you know, the whole arena you
Speaker 4: know that was that was an ill feeling, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or and we would so that's that's that's the that's
Speaker 1: that's the place you did performs the place.
Speaker 4: The screat Guard and hell yeah, hell yeah, I love
Speaker 4: the rock the Garden man one time.
Speaker 1: Scrit Garden, bro. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: That sucked up as much as.
Speaker 1: I did in my hip hop Career's relatable.
Speaker 3: So oh ship, I'm the only one that didn't tear
Speaker 3: my phone off.
Speaker 2: You never do, yeah, you know your phone is just
Speaker 2: respectful all the time on drink chap.
Speaker 3: So did you meet your wife before or you met her?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met her. I met her like mid mid
Speaker 3: big It was mid is it.
Speaker 1: Bit a big? You you know?
Speaker 2: But I always heard that's bit yeah B I D
Speaker 2: B I D yeah yeah yeah, all right, but maybe
Speaker 2: we have it all wrong.
Speaker 4: Were I heard somebody say bit like an old school dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's probably and it was more than us.
Speaker 1: Us up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, we met. We met like around twenty fifteen. Okay,
Speaker 4: I was locked up a friend of mine, uh from
Speaker 4: uh from hours. She's from kidnamed Lata. You know you
Speaker 4: got to blow it up TV, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He he was, he was podcasting, he was broadcasting his
Speaker 4: his his thing on on Facebook. And she kind of
Speaker 4: chimed in and she was like, you know, he was
Speaker 4: talking about me. He was like, Yo, my bros locked up,
Speaker 4: you know, shout to him. And she chimed in, YO, yeah,
Speaker 4: telling him, I said, hold his head, you know, you
Speaker 4: know stuff like that two three, you know, shout shout
Speaker 4: out to her.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: She you know, she kind of was kind of just
Speaker 4: that you know, that support that you know I didn't
Speaker 4: I didn't have at the time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: She she just wanted She was like, so, so my
Speaker 4: aunt was also on that same publication, and then she
Speaker 4: kind of like, look, I could give me a number,
Speaker 4: you know, she said, well I can, you know, I
Speaker 4: could connect you out to it. And the next you know,
Speaker 4: you know, one thing that another were talking. We started
Speaker 4: talking over the phone, you know that that was you know,
Speaker 4: we just hit it off.
Speaker 1: Bless her. So so let me ask you the biggie question.
Speaker 1: M hm. Did you ever think that hip hop would
Speaker 1: make it this far?
Speaker 3: Hell no, man, I didn't either, Hell no, Like I
Speaker 3: couldn't see that. Some days I think like that, and
Speaker 3: then some days I'd be like nah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like noah, no, I could see like like especially
Speaker 4: especially like days like like like like thinking about Question
Speaker 4: Groove and watching that stuff like you wouldn't. I would
Speaker 4: never think like yeah, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like it just seemed like something that was a was
Speaker 4: a a thing like graffiti, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But and them spikes today sed to wear back in
Speaker 1: the days, boy, I'm glad I wasn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They was wild and that was
Speaker 4: it was damn they all doing. The Warriors.
Speaker 3: Tried to recreate it. And I remember following like the Cake,
Speaker 3: It was like.
Speaker 2: Following Parliament and that whole ride, and like there was
Speaker 2: they was following certain things and they they was taken
Speaker 2: from You gotta give.
Speaker 1: Them some credit.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the Warriors.
Speaker 2: No, like that era of hip hop they was taking
Speaker 2: like their style from like Parliament, from like George Clinton
Speaker 2: and them, oh yeah, and different things like they So
Speaker 2: they were parsing their style together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was wild.
Speaker 3: Who's the flyes barrel to you?
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like all barrows got got they fled to it. You
Speaker 3: could say Miami. I was sick Miami. Miami's a Barrow
Speaker 3: County county. We're not a county city, Dade County. That's
Speaker 3: a Dade county. I said, Miami part of the Miami right.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would have to be biased because
Speaker 4: I lived in I lived in Harlem, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, So I know what I know from Harlem.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna lit Queens, dude, goddamn it, give
Speaker 4: it up. Give it up, Queens dudes, give it up.
Speaker 4: Give it up.
Speaker 1: God damn.
Speaker 3: Right next to hall Over there.
Speaker 1: Not New Yorkers. But Harlem is a part of Manhattan though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a borough, but.
Speaker 3: But it is a borough by itself.
Speaker 1: But it's his own world.
Speaker 3: I know, it's its own world.
Speaker 1: But that's why they call it Harlem World. Let me
Speaker 1: give it you and I'm from Queens and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it up to the Hall now, like uh, it
Speaker 1: truly is its own world, and it's different parts of
Speaker 1: that world. It's Spanish Spanish. You can go to Dykeman
Speaker 1: and Dykman is baby Dominican Republic, the Dominican area, the Heights. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of fact.
Speaker 3: I think Dykman is a part of the Heights.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's like what about Alphabet
Speaker 2: City is that way downtown?
Speaker 3: That's not Hall, that's not all, that's not Hallam.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but I will give Hall of this one
Speaker 1: may percent their own world. Like if you if you
Speaker 1: know all of New York City, if you don't to
Speaker 1: Halem Harlem.
Speaker 3: Is is a whole.
Speaker 2: It's a whole nother giant you know what's double And
Speaker 2: we recorded Drink Champs in the rough Rid. Yeah I
Speaker 2: remember We've crossed to go to the Bull and people
Speaker 2: were stopping in the street.
Speaker 3: Drink the lovers.
Speaker 4: See that's what I mean, Like right, yeah, like but
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Well, Halem Halem Hallm is
Speaker 4: like it's a certain type of style of fly, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And Queens is a certain type
Speaker 4: of style of fly like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: That's what I mean, Like they both fly borrow. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm different, just different ways, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right, being from Harlem, right
Speaker 1: and having all these other stars come from Harlem, is
Speaker 1: that more pressure on you? Or is it at least
Speaker 1: pressure on you because you're like, man, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be a part of the great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think it's kind of like
Speaker 4: a duality, Like it's kind of like it's it's like
Speaker 4: pressure in a way, but but then but then, like
Speaker 4: you at the end of the day, you're like, ship,
Speaker 4: I'm from here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: You know, you feel like you know, it's a psychological thing,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think it's
Speaker 4: just you know, it's just you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: like you know you're going to do you or not,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of history, marlm Like Harlem is historic,
Speaker 3: And I just realized.
Speaker 1: Me Cam mace Emon, Doug and Tragedy. We got a
Speaker 1: freestyle called the Triboro Bridge, and I didn't DJ clue
Speaker 1: on album, And I didn't realize that triborough Bridge only
Speaker 1: goes from Queens to hallm right, Oh, triborough Bridge goes
Speaker 1: to the Bronx.
Speaker 3: I never knew that try Barrow, Okay, yeah you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was just because yeah yeah yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never knew that either.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Sock like the Socker. So what do you think.
Speaker 3: Jim Jones and Nas? I mean, I just think I
Speaker 3: just think.
Speaker 4: Again, like those are just two different kinds of things,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Nas, Nas kind of
Speaker 4: you know, he kind of pushed hip hop forward, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like if it wasn't if it
Speaker 4: wasn't for him, like our whole era was, like it
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the same, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like he kind of like opened the door for dudes
Speaker 4: that was on the corner, dudes that was you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying kind of like.
Speaker 2: He mixed up from rocking intellectually boom now yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the younger generation like that, you know how,
Speaker 4: you know how you're right, like you know how like
Speaker 4: like as we get older, like these kids are getting
Speaker 4: sharper and sharp.
Speaker 3: But like you know what I'm saying, Like he was
Speaker 3: and dumber and dumber though he had to save shot.
Speaker 3: He was an Arab sharper and sharper. Yeah, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then you listen to that first album he was
Speaker 4: only like what like seventeen, Like you hear this and
Speaker 4: it's like like I'm like, so, I'm like.
Speaker 3: He's still smarter than me back then.
Speaker 4: Like now, like you just like pulling from some some
Speaker 4: some type of you know, some acoustic record and something.
Speaker 4: But the dude like so so like when you you know,
Speaker 4: like that that whole thing, you know, I just was like,
Speaker 4: I can't see where bro is coming from.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It's love, Yeah, it's love. But I just love hip hop, man.
Speaker 1: I love hip hop when when you can you can
Speaker 1: put yourself in the category and it actually means something
Speaker 1: like that ship is just to me, it's dope.
Speaker 4: To me, it's dumpe man. So what so what we're doing.
Speaker 4: We dropped the album what's My Man Name That Drink?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Shuzy bandoz band.
Speaker 3: We dropped. We're dropping the follow up.
Speaker 4: Well we actually we're actually dropping another album called Off
Speaker 4: the Count. That's that's kind of that he's producing. Nah,
Speaker 4: he didn't produce this one, but we're gonna, we're definitely
Speaker 4: gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Stay ready to.
Speaker 4: He's he's he has the projects out too, so he's
Speaker 4: gonna you know, he's he does like he's a producer
Speaker 4: as well, so he has like things going on. So
Speaker 4: we got to kind of wait for that to you know,
Speaker 4: for time to permit, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: we got this album coming out now of course, called
Speaker 4: Off the count it's kind of just like the whole
Speaker 4: chronicle of me being locked up, like from when I
Speaker 4: got locked up, like for the countdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the way you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's fifty so it's because fifteen songs and it's
Speaker 4: all in order, you know what I mean. When I
Speaker 4: turned myself in. Yeah, so that album, that's that's the
Speaker 4: next up. You know what I'm saying. We gotta and
Speaker 4: also when you turn yourself in all the way to
Speaker 4: the Yeah, the last book with that as well, That's
Speaker 4: what I was gonna say. The last we had a
Speaker 4: book called uh, Credible Memoirs of a Credible Messenger, and
Speaker 4: we're gonna try to package it with the album. And
Speaker 4: stuff like that. We're just trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 4: the technology side of that. I mean the shoes well, yeah,
Speaker 4: Simon shoester, something out of this episode that you get.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's what we you know, we're
Speaker 3: trying to put that together.
Speaker 1: Now, this is a question I probably should have asked earlier,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask now.
Speaker 3: Was there ever a time you regret it turning yourself in?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 3: You did?
Speaker 4: Nah? I mean he did say he when he was walking. Yeah,
Speaker 4: at that time, just out of the doing. Yeah, out
Speaker 4: of the fear of doing you knowing. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know, after I
Speaker 4: turned myself in, you know, it was just like you know,
Speaker 4: it was it was no point that that that I
Speaker 4: felt like it was. It was a waste of a
Speaker 4: waste of time, which is I know it sounds like
Speaker 4: weird though, you know you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at that point it's like, you know, you
Speaker 4: got to ask yourself probably why I probably didn't feel
Speaker 4: any kind of ways.
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, you know, you did what you tried
Speaker 3: to you know what you were you know, set out
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you know, you set things
Speaker 4: right for his family whoever, you know his family, you know,
Speaker 4: you're working on yourself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it was like, yeah, whatever you're believe in, whether
Speaker 2: it's like your soul needed to deal with some or
Speaker 2: your car moneeded to do, you was dealing with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was dealing with it. So I really didn't
Speaker 3: have any regrets.
Speaker 4: You know, certain certain things I would feel, you know,
Speaker 4: I would feel it though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like damn, like damn if I wasn't locked up, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, you know what I used to
Speaker 4: feel mostly when I when I when I was when
Speaker 4: I was locked up, that I would that I would
Speaker 4: like kind of not regret, but I would like be like,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of longing for like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. What Like when I would write stuff Rome
Speaker 4: and I would think it was crazy like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, super duple and I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 4: can't instant who who the you gonna tell you?
Speaker 1: It was just like oh what.
Speaker 3: Like here's gonna take me? Take you here?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere, you know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 4: was one of them, the one of them things. So
Speaker 4: what was your actual sentence fifteen in life?
Speaker 3: What you did thirteen? And steen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did thirteen in like seven months.
Speaker 1: Well, man, I gonna be honest with you because I
Speaker 1: don't know nobody else, and I'm gonna keep asking questions
Speaker 1: because i don't know nobody else in the situation in life.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking forty seven years old. I've traveled the country
Speaker 1: seven times. Your story is like, I was so happy
Speaker 1: when we were, like, Yo, We're gonna have g depth
Speaker 1: because I like, I honestly, I really think you're one
Speaker 1: of like the most genuous people on earth. Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I really say I said
Speaker 1: that earlier and I said you're honorable. But it's even
Speaker 1: gets more into depth as I talk to you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying as we go through this, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a therapist, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: this is how I do it.
Speaker 3: You ain't drinking, but usually I break it down.
Speaker 1: At this point You're like, nah, but listen, Noah, bro
Speaker 1: I never really heard of this. So and I'm asking
Speaker 1: you because this is honestly something I want to know.
Speaker 1: So even like doing the bid like you didn't regret it.
Speaker 1: You didn't say like, man, I made a mistake, Like
Speaker 1: you didn't say that to yourself.
Speaker 4: Nah, I can't say. I can't say that I didn't
Speaker 4: sometimes regret it because like you want to be out,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You want to be home,
Speaker 4: you have your humid stuff happens, like damn, I wish
Speaker 4: I was home for that, Like, oh, don't.
Speaker 1: Worry about it. Your flowers are secure, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: That's why they're in a case.
Speaker 3: So, but but I can't say.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't say that I felt like I made a
Speaker 4: mistake though, you know what I mean, Like I felt
Speaker 4: like you know, like it never felt like damn, I
Speaker 4: shouldn't have did that, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I never I can't say I felt that way. Okay,
Speaker 1: now you can answer this whichever way you want. Did
Speaker 1: you notice these people family? Did you see they family?
Speaker 1: What made you say, yo, let me, let me just go?
Speaker 3: And you didn't even know you had? Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know I killed him And I didn't know
Speaker 3: when you went tolf.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't. I didn't know his family. I just
Speaker 4: it was something where you know when I experienced with
Speaker 4: my family one day, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: that's what kind of made me really start thinking about it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what happened like I said, yeah, with my family, Like
Speaker 4: I was sitting there. I think it was like a
Speaker 4: Christmas you know what I mean. It was just so beautiful,
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, to be with my sons.
Speaker 4: You know, I had you know, you know, I felt
Speaker 4: like you know, a father, you know, I had bought
Speaker 4: them their gifts and you know what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 4: so you know, just sitting there with them and made
Speaker 4: me realize like damn, what happened to bro?
Speaker 3: Like did wonder if his family? Like did he have kids?
Speaker 3: Did he had to?
Speaker 4: I started thinking about person I didn't know them, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I started thinking about a random argument or something. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was just you know, you know, I just you know,
Speaker 4: one day, I always you know, as after it happened,
Speaker 4: and even as a young and I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I started you know, I always was like fearful of
Speaker 4: what happened that night, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: I would get locked up and I would think the
Speaker 4: cops knew, you know what I mean, Like it's just
Speaker 4: something related. I was definitely want to me you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, you know, as I got older,
Speaker 4: like I started asking myself some serious questions, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, damn, and and I feel I'm like,
Speaker 4: how else could you figure out what happened to this man?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I said, you know what, Well,
Speaker 1: so you didn't know, you just you just thought you
Speaker 1: hit hit a dude? Yeah, okay, yeah yeah, actually got Peter. Yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: so you found out at the precinct. At the precinct,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I never forget it. He like,
Speaker 1: he was like yo, when you say, he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: he had the prosecutor. Actually, the prosecutors at the precinct,
Speaker 1: they called him down to the immediately immediately. First first,
Speaker 1: I've never heard so we looked up the files.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, not immediately, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Like what they did was like they kind of they
Speaker 4: looked into it and then once they seen that that
Speaker 4: it matched up, because they was like.
Speaker 3: Yo, what was you wearing that day? And I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I had this on.
Speaker 1: I remember that what I have like basically telling them, yeah,
Speaker 1: because this is unheard off, so they can think that
Speaker 1: you're like a psych patient.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to, they have to evaluate you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well not.
Speaker 4: Actually actually at that point they were like taking me serious,
Speaker 4: like you know, you know, you know the railroad, the
Speaker 4: railroad system. At the at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: they're like, well, we got one whoever he is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they want to cross out, like yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Yeah, They're like, okay, he could be bad.
Speaker 3: Out of hell.
Speaker 1: Your first words you said to them, you said, I
Speaker 1: want to admit to a to a crime. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he didn't know basically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I came in, I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, because I had came in before that. They
Speaker 4: turned you I heard that. Yeah, yeah, they turned you away.
Speaker 4: Yeah they turned me a way right, that's why fact.
Speaker 3: They was like yo, all right, and that's he looked
Speaker 3: another But it's crazy you kept going right, So this
Speaker 3: is what happened, right, So you're a genuine broh yo.
Speaker 4: You know, in my mind, I'm trying to get this,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: Get it behind it, get it behind me, right.
Speaker 4: So I had another album coming out, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: put that ghetto legend album out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm like, this album's on bad Boy. No,
Speaker 4: this album was this, This was this was the album
Speaker 4: My job in twenty ten, like Famous Records to do
Speaker 4: the Jeffrey Collins, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So so still popping.
Speaker 4: We still do our thing. I look something shows, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I finally get another album,
Speaker 4: a record deal album deal. Dude is like, yo, listen,
Speaker 4: we're gonna push it.
Speaker 1: Da da da.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I don't want to go through this
Speaker 4: with this album, you know, with the same stuff on
Speaker 4: my mind and all that, Like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get to the bottom of it, right. So I
Speaker 4: goes to it. I goes to the precinct. I said, yo,
Speaker 4: look I did such and such and such, and he
Speaker 4: like them. He looked at me like I was crazy.
Speaker 4: He was like, he said, really that's what you did.
Speaker 4: He said, so you did that. He said, you know what,
Speaker 4: take this card, call me. We're gonna give me your number. He'said,
Speaker 4: give me, this is a detective. This is a detective.
Speaker 4: He was like, all right, give me because you know,
Speaker 4: go to go to the priest and like they act
Speaker 4: at the desk like you know what I mean, before
Speaker 4: you go in the priest. And it was like another
Speaker 4: like desk right, so I'll go to them. He was
Speaker 4: like yo, he said, yo, so give me your number.
Speaker 4: I gave him my number, he gave me, he gave
Speaker 4: me his card. He was like, yo, I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: you if we find out anything in what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: He asked me a few questions, like you know, what day?
Speaker 3: When was it.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, it's in the winter, some like
Speaker 4: back in the nineties, ninety three, ninety two. He was like, okay,
Speaker 4: he said, we're gonna look into it. He was like like,
Speaker 4: I said, gave me the number. Boom, so I leave.
Speaker 4: I'm like and then I said leave, you leave right.
Speaker 4: They let me leave boom. It's like beat it right.
Speaker 4: So I so they never caused me, and I lost
Speaker 4: the phone like maybe like a week late. I lost
Speaker 4: the phone and his call right. So now I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: now I'm still not going to know what happened, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I was like, I'm going
Speaker 4: I'm going back to this one last time and if
Speaker 4: they don't say nothing this time, I was gonna leave
Speaker 4: it alone, like you know what I mean the second
Speaker 4: time second, you know what I mean? So I go,
Speaker 4: I go, And that was the time I'm like, I
Speaker 4: can't believe you know what I'm saying. You do it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So but I'll go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was like, Okay, this this is and
Speaker 4: it was gonna be it either way, like you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. It was gonna be like, this is
Speaker 4: gonna be the last time I'm coming here if they don't,
Speaker 4: you know, if they turned me away this time, this
Speaker 4: is it, you know. So But but you know, I
Speaker 4: went in and boy was like you know, the rest
Speaker 4: the same detective us now was some different different dudes.
Speaker 4: And you know, once I told him something, he kind
Speaker 4: of was like like, how would you know that? Like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo, I
Speaker 4: think I said. I think I said I was riding
Speaker 4: a bike and that's what that's what made him catch it.
Speaker 4: Get the instrant like he kind of they whatever, they
Speaker 4: like they knew it was a bike involved, and he
Speaker 4: was like he's just went in the back and he
Speaker 4: was like yo.
Speaker 3: He kept asking me stuff like yo, so like what
Speaker 3: was you wearing that night?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I had a brown jacket on
Speaker 4: brown sleeve. She was like, so, I guess they already
Speaker 4: had the description of the dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They was like, yo, damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So then so then he so then he came back.
Speaker 4: It was like, Yo, come come on back here for
Speaker 4: a minute, you know. So then so then they spoke
Speaker 4: to me a little bit more, not covering you cut
Speaker 4: them in like the interrogation room, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And they like, Yo, we got the prosecutor coming to
Speaker 4: coming to see you, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: at this point I'm pretty sure they already knew, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So they was like, Yo, we
Speaker 4: got the prosecutor coming to see you. He's gonna ask
Speaker 4: you some questions, you know what I'm saying. So they
Speaker 4: like they made me sit there for about a half hour.
Speaker 4: He pulls up and then he was just you know,
Speaker 4: you know, because this is the guy who takes took
Speaker 4: the case, so he knows all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all of the details.
Speaker 4: So he's telling me, Yo, He's like, Yo, so so
Speaker 4: that night, who you're with like, you know, he started
Speaker 4: getting crazy, like really like, you know, investigating with you
Speaker 4: on camera?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on camera. You know, who are you with?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Who are you wearing? What was you what time was it?
Speaker 4: You know, stuff like that. I'm answering him. I'm like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was by myself. I'm just out there.
Speaker 3: What was you doing?
Speaker 4: Like I was trying to you know, I was. I
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna rob him and he you know,
Speaker 4: you grab, you know, stuff like that, you know, And
Speaker 4: then he was like yo, So after after after I
Speaker 4: was and then I tried I kind of interrupted him.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, what happened to the guy?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And that he was he
Speaker 3: kept talking, you know what I mean, asking me this
Speaker 3: and that. Then he was like, yo, by the way,
Speaker 3: the god died.
Speaker 4: I was like, how did that hit you? At that point,
Speaker 4: I was like like so now all my life, I'm
Speaker 4: like a different kind of dude until I you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I didn't think I killed nobody,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And when they told me that, I was like damn,
Speaker 3: Like like damn, I'm like a murderer now, like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it was like wow. It
Speaker 3: was like wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then you know, then they just kind of like
Speaker 4: just like put me through the whole process after that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They wasn't really they was
Speaker 4: like yo, yo, thanks for you know.
Speaker 3: They give you any special treatment because you actually came
Speaker 3: in on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they just you know, gave me, you know,
Speaker 4: showed a little like kind of like you know, respect
Speaker 4: for what I did.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was like Yo, well man, I mean, thanks for
Speaker 4: coming in, man. But yeah, man, you know, so they started,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, the other officers, they were kind
Speaker 4: of just trying to you know, kind of be nice
Speaker 4: about it, you know what I mean, because they knew, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they knew it was about to go down. They was like, yo,
Speaker 4: look man, yo, you know you want to show the
Speaker 4: like right, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know obviously I never got crazy or nothing like that.
Speaker 1: But to a certain extent, rappers we get a little
Speaker 1: bit of privilege, right when we when we at what
Speaker 1: point did they discover that this person who just admitted
Speaker 1: to a homicide is also g depth the rapper?
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you like when they figured it out.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I got when I got to
Speaker 4: the precinct, you know, I mean when I got you know,
Speaker 4: situated and went to the tombs and all of that, and.
Speaker 3: Then I called home. I got to call home.
Speaker 4: That's when, you know, my moms and all of them
Speaker 4: told me, yoh, you know, you're all the news and
Speaker 4: other all that stuff. So I don't know how how
Speaker 4: they translated it, you know what I mean. But I'm
Speaker 4: not sure if they knew.
Speaker 3: They might have knew.
Speaker 1: They didn't violate by having the cameras out, like you
Speaker 1: know how they always have the personal coff going to
Speaker 1: the car. They didn't do that now, so they respected that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't
Speaker 4: know if they knew or not at that point. I
Speaker 4: don't know, you know what I'm saying. They might have,
Speaker 4: but they it was like late. They just took me
Speaker 4: in the car, cuffed me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: took me downtown, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And condolences to the family of that person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man, his his his his his brother
Speaker 3: in law. You know, came to some of the some
Speaker 3: of the proceedings, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know, I was just there
Speaker 3: doing what I was doing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He you know, he he felt like, you know, I
Speaker 4: kind of like opened up an old wound kind of
Speaker 4: so to speak, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, I mean like basically, he want
Speaker 3: he didn't want you to.
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, he should have just I mean
Speaker 4: he said it in the papers, like you know, he
Speaker 4: was like, yo, he should have just left it alone.
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 2: it is old wounds being open up, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, It is how you felt that definitely how
Speaker 2: he felt.
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, the family, he was kind of
Speaker 4: over it, you know, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and I was, you know, so fuck him. He was
Speaker 4: wilding on me, like you know what he's saying that
Speaker 4: about Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. Excuse my language,
Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm being frank to say something and
Speaker 4: it's a serious situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So you know I get it though, you know, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you.
Speaker 1: Know, man, you yo, I salute you man, like I
Speaker 1: always like, you know, her bits and pieces of the
Speaker 1: story and I kind of like, you know, maybe didn't
Speaker 1: even want to ask these questions on here, like just
Speaker 1: on a personal level, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because like what you did is real, Like I've never
Speaker 1: heard of nothing like this. I don't think nobody's ever
Speaker 1: done what you've done. And like I see you like
Speaker 1: a man's man, Like I'll look at you like a
Speaker 1: man's man, you know what I'm saying, Like and like
Speaker 1: down to like even your music, like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: hear the bitterness in your music. I'm trying to hear
Speaker 1: like and I'm like then like like you actually went
Speaker 1: through this in a real way, like and it's crazy
Speaker 1: because a lot of people can't relate to that shit.
Speaker 1: And that's to be that why I ask you the
Speaker 1: question like two or three times in a different way.
Speaker 1: It's because I want the people to see how genuine
Speaker 1: Like I kind of know my audience, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I know how I want the people
Speaker 1: to see how genuine you are. And that's that's and look,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, like, man, that's amazing story.
Speaker 4: We can like appreciate it.
Speaker 2: The families you know forever, you know, like you never
Speaker 2: could make up for what has happened to that family.
Speaker 2: But you have done what you can to a tone
Speaker 2: for for what you've done. And you did your time,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And all you could do
Speaker 2: is be the better human being that you're trying.
Speaker 4: To be right now. So yeah, that's how I feel
Speaker 4: about it. You know at this point, you know, so.
Speaker 3: You didn't see all out. You didn't you had time served.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean you had good behavior
Speaker 1: because you said you did thirteen out of fifteen to life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I wound up getting clemency. Okay, what is that for?
Speaker 3: People who gave you clemency?
Speaker 4: Like it was a governor governor hog, yeah, governor whole
Speaker 4: who gave me a credit uh lemency.
Speaker 3: She gave me.
Speaker 4: She gave me an executive clemency. It wasn't really to like,
Speaker 4: because I don't think they can give you clemency if
Speaker 4: you have a like a murder, They gotta they gotta
Speaker 4: kind of just let you go to the parole board early.
Speaker 4: So what they did, yeah, yeah, so they just basically
Speaker 4: commuted my sentence at thirteen at thirteen years and then
Speaker 4: I went to the board and the board let me go, wow, yeah,
Speaker 4: oh she still had to see the board. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: still had to see the board. They they gave me clemency.
Speaker 4: Came came to my my unit. Y'all, the supervisor want
Speaker 4: to see you. I go down and talk to us.
Speaker 4: She give me to you know, no, she didn't give
Speaker 4: me a certificate then, but she told me everything.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 4: Look, you know they governor granted you clemency. She read,
Speaker 4: she read the certificate she did. She said, you know
Speaker 4: you've been here by you know, granted you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm like, wow, you know, she was like
Speaker 4: she was real nice about it. And and then like
Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, so when I go home,
Speaker 4: I say, at this point, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: She like, nah, what it is?
Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta, you gotta go to parole. You
Speaker 4: know we're gonna you know, parole is gonna decide whether
Speaker 4: you're going home. So what is exactly his clemency?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 3: It's just basically like it's a part. It's a part
Speaker 3: in it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of like a uh kind of like just because
Speaker 4: because they don't they don't just like wipe wipe your
Speaker 4: record clean a party and they'll wipe your record clean.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, clemency Like they kind
Speaker 4: of just let you out of jail.
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of like a like you did your time,
Speaker 3: We're gonna let you. Yeah, like did you reach out to.
Speaker 1: The governor or the government just heard about your case
Speaker 1: and see you stepped it up, so they wanted to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 3: It was actually it was weird.
Speaker 4: I came I'm not weird, but it was you know,
Speaker 4: praise and creat It was one of them things I came.
Speaker 4: I came in from you know, regular jailing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and I going I look on the kiosk,
Speaker 4: you know, and jo they got and I get an
Speaker 4: email from a lawyer, Uh, Stephen Steven Zeppman.
Speaker 3: My my clemency lawyer.
Speaker 4: Yo. Look we we uh you know my name is
Speaker 4: Steven Zepman. Did the introduction, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, I run a clemency uh, a clemency group
Speaker 4: and you know a bunch of kids from you know
Speaker 4: n YU or one of the colleges.
Speaker 3: You know, we get people out of jail. Your case
Speaker 3: was brought to my attention by the by the d A.
Speaker 3: The actual d A, d same Dame d A. The
Speaker 3: d A and the judge.
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, your your case was brought to
Speaker 4: my attention by the d A and the judge and
Speaker 4: they suggest that we help you get out.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: And I was like, So when I finally got to
Speaker 4: talk to him, he was like yeah.
Speaker 3: The d A was like yo, he he thought they
Speaker 3: gave you a little bit.
Speaker 4: Too much time. And and the judge he said, yo,
Speaker 4: we didn't want to give him that time. We had
Speaker 4: to give him that time. So then they was like yo,
Speaker 4: you know then they were my case. From that, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. From there, I just did. I went,
Speaker 4: I followed, you know, I went through you know, all
Speaker 4: the emotions. You know, I broke my personal statement, you
Speaker 4: know all of that stuff, got the letters, you know,
Speaker 4: letters of intent from people and stuff like not let
Speaker 4: us intent, I forgot what you call it, you know,
Speaker 4: just character statements and stuff like that, and then we
Speaker 4: just put it in.
Speaker 3: Well man, well I'm taking a shot. I'm sure takes
Speaker 3: one of the strongs people. I know, brother, you could
Speaker 3: have did it too. An experience was would it moved you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man? I don't know. If I got that spirit, I
Speaker 1: must to be honest on my but whoa, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for your honesty.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's all good.
Speaker 1: Like you know, first off, I don't have experience of
Speaker 1: talking about things like this, and like again, we're in
Speaker 1: the same industry, so I get to hear bits and pieces,
Speaker 1: and I never really unders stood the whole story, like
Speaker 1: how you understand how you usually explained it. And I
Speaker 1: know the industry is gonna eat this up as well.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like wow, because I've searched you all
Speaker 1: for the two weeks and I didn't see you explain
Speaker 1: this like the way you just explained this what I'm said,
Speaker 1: And I was scared to kind of ask because you know,
Speaker 1: there's two things that we get when we interview people.
Speaker 1: There's always somebody to say, hey, don't ask this right,
Speaker 1: and then we say, we don't want this, motherfuckers, tell them,
Speaker 1: tell them, get the funk away.
Speaker 3: If I can't ask you something, I don't, I don't
Speaker 3: want to sensitive regard.
Speaker 1: Yours is different. Yours was carved out, was like him.
Speaker 1: It's a sensitive thing. And then there's another thing, is
Speaker 1: I bet on some people's on time I lost the
Speaker 1: CU today. I lost.
Speaker 3: I bet on you, I bet on you.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, you're gonna be here one time, and
Speaker 4: I lost.
Speaker 1: I lost.
Speaker 4: I'm on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So you gave your time. You got to
Speaker 1: be on time.
Speaker 3: Man, Thank you so much, White me, thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you for coming coming.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, I promise you bro like one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: reiterate what us said earlier. We went through your album. Yo,
Speaker 1: your ship is fucking fire. I can't believe you. I
Speaker 1: can't believe, like you still got it, Like I can't
Speaker 1: believe and we gotta you. You have a song on
Speaker 1: there that escort you still got it right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. We have a segment on our ship that
Speaker 1: we were doing. Now let me see if you still
Speaker 1: got it. And it's about like we're gonna do the
Speaker 1: freestyle segment like how rap city.
Speaker 3: So it's crazy that you that me and you's on
Speaker 3: the same level.
Speaker 1: But you man, thank you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you telling our story. I really appreciate your eyes,
Speaker 1: really please your genuine witness, and I really appreciate your honks.
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