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Speaker 1: He is drink chants, motherfucking podcast man.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary Queens rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in O r E.

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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer.

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Speaker 1: Up his DJ E f N.

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Speaker 3: Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 1: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 4: source for drunk drink chans.

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Speaker 1: Das New Year c That's it's time for drink Champions.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, mother mother, what boy and R E one

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Speaker 1: up his dj E f N and this mini simigrades

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Speaker 1: you grow up Falcon make some of the We talk

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Speaker 1: about legends, we talk about classics, We talk about this

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Speaker 1: man has this man is that one of the most

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Speaker 1: hon't We're gonna speak about everything, but he's been down yo.

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Speaker 3: His His album right.

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Speaker 1: Now is is fire like gonna lie Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: I'm very impressed people don't take that time, that type

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Speaker 1: of time off and still come and fresh. In case

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Speaker 1: you don't know what we talk about, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the one only.

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Speaker 3: Stage.

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Speaker 1: Be honest.

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Speaker 3: The album's really really good.

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Speaker 1: Bro got two albums, right, Lessons what is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lesson Never Losses and they stay ready, Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: get into lessons and level losses.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's a big, big statement, right, and and most people

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Speaker 1: they do they I mean, you.

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Speaker 3: Know it's lost. It's in life, of course.

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Speaker 1: But what this statement is saying, but by you saying

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Speaker 1: that is like everything is if.

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Speaker 5: It's if a lesson, if it's a lesson.

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Speaker 1: Learning that loss, then it's not a loss. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: how did you come up with that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was just one of them things like

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Speaker 4: like from from just the experience of being locked up,

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Speaker 4: like you know.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It was like, yo, you know what I what I

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Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I got my degree when

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Speaker 4: I was in there, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You know, I learned a lot about myself, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. So it was kind of fitting when

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Speaker 4: I came out and it was like, yo, what was

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Speaker 4: you name?

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Speaker 3: The album?

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Speaker 4: It was like yo, you know it just it just

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Speaker 4: happened like that, and it was like, yeah, that that's

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Speaker 4: that's exactly how I how my life been headed, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And you did this independent yeah, okay, well samples on

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Speaker 1: there though.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you right now.

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Speaker 1: Again, like I'm gonna listen to this album and like

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Speaker 1: it's like when when when when when Sean came home?

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Speaker 3: Like I felt like he lost a.

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Speaker 1: Step, Like I feel like I feel like that takes

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Speaker 1: away from you not being and being able to touch

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Speaker 1: the world. But I'm listening and I can't see that

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Speaker 1: with you, like I see it coming from you, bro,

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Speaker 1: I'm dead serious, Like I'm not sitting here like I'm

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Speaker 1: at all, Like I'm gonna sit here listening to both albums.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, So how what was you? You was

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Speaker 1: rhyming in the can?

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Speaker 3: You can kept?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't gonna lie. I definitely, I definitely was. It

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Speaker 4: was like it wasn't really no point that I could

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Speaker 4: lets you know how creative, you know, things don't flow sometime,

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Speaker 4: but for the most part, like I always kept kept

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Speaker 4: at it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: What now?

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Speaker 1: What you're laying music down in the can too? Is

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Speaker 1: you're making music in there? Because now everybody got a studio.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they do, but from jail, I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I definitely did. I actually did lay

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Speaker 4: something down over the phone. You know it was. It

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Speaker 4: was kind of makeshift, but you know, dudes made it happen.

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Speaker 4: It was like, you know, you you recorded and then

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Speaker 4: like you know, dudes that go back and you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of chop everything up, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So we did record some stuff. I was kind of

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Speaker 4: like when I came home, I was kind of the

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, right, And so did you have

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Speaker 4: To the booth I came home, Yeah, nah, I kind

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Speaker 4: of I kind of was like already kind of season,

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Speaker 4: like we had just did an album. We did an

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Speaker 4: I came home, a joint call influential, Okay from from there,

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Speaker 3: Look at that, Yeah, from you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And then so coming So when I came home, I

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Speaker 4: how it was like kind of easy transition in a way,

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Speaker 1: Because obviously when you came you went away, it was

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Speaker 1: on the hottest record label, like arguably on the planet.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Was it was? It was it hard to come home

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Speaker 1: and and transition into this this independent thing.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean not really.

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Speaker 4: I mean I had I had to add some good

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Speaker 4: product production, you know, got me shout to Lean Brothers,

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Speaker 4: in the Boys many They definitely helped help the process

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Speaker 4: because you know, I was, like you said, I was

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Speaker 4: like before I went in, I mean yeah, actually before

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Speaker 3: So it was it wasn't really like.

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Speaker 4: I was doing the thing with Bad Boy like that

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me that that that you had a slight

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Speaker 1: was that you how did it? Or you over thinking that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Not know, I mean you know, I definitely I definitely.

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Speaker 4: you know, I always, you know, try to support myself

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Speaker 3: You know, you had it when you went in you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I definitely I had. I definitely was, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was kind of like, you know, it ain't no

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Speaker 1: Go, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, and then it was one of them

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Speaker 4: all right, well, you know, what are you getting so

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So gradually, you know.

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Speaker 4: I kind of just kind of just stepped away from

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Speaker 4: a lot of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I imagine that the music was kind of

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Speaker 3: It must have been therapeutic too.

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Speaker 1: To tell yeah, hell yeah, hell.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't like I was actually writing about anything,

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Speaker 3: It was therapeutic for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm not sure if you know.

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Speaker 1: I go on black Twitter, right, it was the most

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Speaker 1: I go to the nigga section, right, I'll give it

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Speaker 1: they got a black The first day I see black Twitter,

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Speaker 1: like be positive was the day you came home. That

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for the hate. I'm looking for somebody liked,

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Speaker 1: and I was like the first time. So I want

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Speaker 4: Came home like I ain't gonna lie, Okay, I'm listening

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Speaker 3: They didn't relate when I first did it.

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Speaker 4: Though, they were When I first myself in it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: They was like like what, like you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So especially being in there, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like I had to explain myself. You know a lot

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Speaker 4: of you know, the different you know, different times things

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Speaker 4: I kind of understand where you're coming from, Like you

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Speaker 3: They can relate to whatever you were feeling that made you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like a lot of people that didn't have that kind

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Speaker 4: of situation in jail was like, yo, was like I

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Speaker 3: I had to like, yo, listen, did you ever do

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Speaker 3: something like that?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: Brothers just like well, nah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So it was one of.

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Speaker 1: Them things, and I mean, you know that that's that

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Speaker 4: And so was it was it guilt? I mean I

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Speaker 4: think it was more like balance. Okay, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Balance, Yeah, like balance, like you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like I felt like, you know, I was

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Speaker 4: survivor's guilt is crazy, Like you know what I'm saying, crazy,

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Speaker 4: It's like damn you know, so that it was one

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Speaker 2: Dudes like, yeah, that's that, and it might have you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I believe, so, y'all. Wasn't I was

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Speaker 1: Now, one thing that happened while you was away was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Or it was like kind of my bro

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Speaker 1: And all of that.

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Speaker 4: Oh you never met Black Now, I had never met him,

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Speaker 4: And then my man knew him, my man Pooker Broxy,

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Speaker 3: He wanted to meet you and all of that. One

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Speaker 4: And one day he came and got me Likeyo, Rob

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Speaker 4: know I used to tell you. Yeah, so yo say

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Speaker 4: like his heart was like tremendous day. He wasn't one

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Speaker 4: of them dudes that like gate keep anything. Like he'd

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Speaker 3: Like that was just how he was like.

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Speaker 4: And that's what he did for, you know, for me

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Speaker 4: with with the album, Like he was like, come on down,

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Speaker 4: you know on the album.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I got on the album and it just so happens.

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Speaker 4: The album was in nineteenety nine. Yeah, the life story

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Speaker 4: Training cool, so.

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Speaker 1: Hard.

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Speaker 4: Pierre happened to be there that day and then you

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Speaker 4: know that was how I want get shigned.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well.

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Speaker 3: Special Delivery, Little Wayne Yeah did it over?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Where was you at when you found out that

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Speaker 1: Little Wayne did it over? And this is argusly one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest artists in the world hell yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was I forgot, I know, I know,

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Speaker 4: somebody pulled up and was like, yo, yo, Wayne, did

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Speaker 4: you joint over man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like what you know?

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Speaker 4: Then when I heard it, you know, I felt some

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Speaker 3: I was like we all do all do when someone saying, well,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, damn, like why

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Speaker 4: would he you know, like it was a single, Like

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Speaker 4: you know, you could have picked anything, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, This is my single, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But then like.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, yo, so like I could see

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Speaker 4: you take somebody like kind of album cut, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, but like this was my actual single

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Speaker 4: that you made his single as well. But then I

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Speaker 4: you think about like history.

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Speaker 3: Of hip hop like dudes do it all the time.

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Speaker 4: And I was just like I dawned on me, like

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Speaker 4: Big Daddy came.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no half stepping.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. You know what I

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Speaker 1: don't like is like when they take the record and

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Speaker 1: they make they make it what it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I had a record that I dedicated to my father.

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Speaker 3: Of course sometimes that.

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Speaker 4: Was my joint.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of people, don't want to say, a

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Speaker 1: couple of people sampled it and they made the record

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Speaker 1: kind of like happy, and I was like, this record

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Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be happy, Like this is a record.

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Speaker 3: About my father.

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Speaker 1: So that's really when I really take it personally, when

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Speaker 3: So personal.

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Speaker 1: My father was the reason why I loved Wayne and

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Speaker 1: the reason why fun we went because Wayne didn't band

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Speaker 1: from TV over twice that seriously, but he keeps it

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Speaker 1: like that. He keeps it up that alley where it's

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Speaker 1: respect us. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You can tell he's an artist.

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Speaker 1: Artist.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I understood it.

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Speaker 4: As time went on, I was like, you know, shout out,

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Speaker 4: shout out, d Wayne Man.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, yeah, at first, I was like,

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Speaker 3: what have you seen Wayne since you've been home?

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Speaker 1: Nah? I wonder what a g dep in? Little Wayne

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Speaker 1: recommend sound like it sounds like so you know you're

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Speaker 1: not drinking. But we we got a game called qick

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Speaker 1: time with give us flowers, manos, come on, my mother

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Speaker 1: had well officer was about giving people they flowers so

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Speaker 1: they could smell them. And bro, this is long overdue.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to give you your flowers. Your face you.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, I never get over you.

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Speaker 1: Know.

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Speaker 4: Hell, yeah that's better than so yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, we needed to resonate. The drinker could do sunning.

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Speaker 1: You can do his man what I meant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he man.

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Speaker 3: Don't get it.

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Speaker 4: It is long dirty a little yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's crazy New York City. You

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Speaker 4: Parole, but you can't drink on Hell it's crazy and

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Speaker 4: they and they like it really come get you, like, yo,

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Speaker 4: you're drinking. Ain't playing chance many I'm not playing. The

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Speaker 4: other day the other day, I.

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Speaker 1: Jumped out the cars and New York obviously right, I

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Speaker 1: jump out the car, and I walked right into dispensively right,

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Speaker 1: and I bought. But and I just really thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: how many times did I get arrested doing the same

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Speaker 1: exactly like you had to be bugging when you came home.

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Speaker 3: You still I'm still everywhere they will be bugging. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm like yo, like that she is unheard of, Like

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Speaker 3: that was like a little.

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Speaker 4: Richeal, you know, from the police, and now they're like

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Speaker 4: yo over. That's just crazy to me, man. But you know,

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Speaker 4: it is what it is. It's not legal down here.

446
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 3: It's approved.

447
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: But I think Trump took that away from y'all from Yeah. Now,

448
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: yet during the process of doing they stopped the recreational here. Yeah,

449
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 1: so it's only medical.

450
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, it's just medically yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

451
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 3: but it was on the ballot this year. Yeah, they're

452
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 3: gonna make it.

453
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 1: Took that out.

454
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, quick time with slime.

455
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you.

456
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,680
Speaker 3: Hold yeah, what what you're drinking?

457
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 1: Tequila?

458
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 3: No tequila or tequila? You said, oh tequila, We got it.

459
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you two choices.

460
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: You pick one, we're not drinking, you say, basically, you

461
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: don't want to answer.

462
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 3: You say both are neither. Then we all drink.

463
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 1: You're not, he's drinking.

464
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 4: Okay, So one's got two choice.

465
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,959
Speaker 1: Really, this is just bringing up names and stories.

466
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you pick one, like we're gonna say

467
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: this person or this person, and you pick one, you're

468
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: not drinking.

469
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 1: Nobody's drinking.

470
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: But if you don't want to really answer, be.

471
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: Like both neither of them.

472
00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 3: We all drink, got to drink.

473
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: You don't answer if you made the question, we're drinking

474
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 1: and these guys write it over there. Yeah, that's them

475
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: they're doing. It's not us. That's the cocaine session the

476
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: Dominican in Colombia right right there, they do this, not

477
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: a coca.

478
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Max B or Jim Jones.

479
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 4: I had to say, I'm not I'm not too familiar

480
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 4: with with with Max B's like catalog is as as Jim,

481
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 4: so I would have to say, gym on that that's fair.

482
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: Camera Mace, camera, Mace.

483
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

484
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do.

485
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 3: You go.

486
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: By the way, that's that's correct answer. That's the kill.

487
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? That was math fast. That was

488
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: that was quick time with since we drinking and.

489
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: M hm, yoh yeah.

490
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: Sockey is really like a you have to do this

491
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: with a with a partner. You can't drink socky by yourself.

492
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: But I broke the rules already.

493
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: You're pouring into your freezer to cheers.

494
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: My bad.

495
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, drink black raw or big al black wow,

496
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 4: but big Al I like I like like I like

497
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 4: you damn Yeah, rest in pizza, rest in piece of

498
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 4: black Wow, rest in piece of big Al. I had

499
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: to say, I'm gonna go with my bro man black

500
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: Wow Man.

501
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: Give her, give her interact with big l Yeah.

502
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: I definitely, definitely. I met him a few times. That

503
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: was it was cool. Quiet dude, just you know, just

504
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 3: come do his do his.

505
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: Work, you know what I mean.

506
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 4: We never looked like hung out. I met him in

507
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: a few studios. It's like I always ran into him

508
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: in the studio.

509
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry to cut you off.

510
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: So, but that had to be a shocking experience too,

511
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: because when you went away, we all had to be

512
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: in the same studios together. Now, motherfucker could just throw

513
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: you send your record. What's that shocking for YouTube?

514
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, but it was kind of like it was

515
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: just where stuff was headed, like you know what I mean.

516
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: Like you knew it was headed that way the director.

517
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when I left, I left, I left when

518
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 4: they you know, still I had an iPhone and all

519
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: of that, you know what I mean, So I understood

520
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: how compact things was going, you know what I mean.

521
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 4: Like I used to I used to go to the

522
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 4: I used to go to the studio with the with

523
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: the ps member when PSP's first came out, and so

524
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 4: I would like like like kind of upload the beats

525
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: to the PSP. Like I was kind of on to

526
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: the technology, you know what I'm saying. So I kind

527
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: of knew that stuff was starting to get to be

528
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 4: you know, like it was going it was going there,

529
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

530
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 3: But it's still amazing to me. I love it.

531
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: Technology. Motherfuckers really can make a whole album on the

532
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: phone now, Like beats recorded everything on the phone.

533
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: You don't even any people because they could do it all.

534
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, seesion for you.

535
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: Kiss or push your tea.

536
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 4: I had to say kiss, okay, Harlem World or dip set,

537
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: Hall them World or dip set.

538
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know.

539
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: That's a shot. So you're saying both.

540
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying both. Yeah, Hall them World.

541
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: That's that.

542
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: That was masing up. That was Mason Loan, you know

543
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: what I mean.

544
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh, Well he got up two shots, right.

545
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 4: Sugar Jay and all of them shout the shout, the

546
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: blinky blinking all them what no rough riders a Rockefeller

547
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: rough riders a Rockefeller Jamie. I had to say, I

548
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 4: had to say rough Riders. I know I know them,

549
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 4: you know, I know them personally, you know what I mean?

550
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: So ready to die or life after death, Life after death.

551
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: And you got to meet big Big right, Nah. Iin't

552
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: get to meet bay Na. Nah.

553
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: I've seen him one time in the tunnel before before

554
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 4: I got the and all of that, like just like

555
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: not not really performing, but he was just kind.

556
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: Of just chilling. He was like, that's that bigg Schwans doing.

557
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: He was dumb tall. I was like, man, that's funny.

558
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: He's just him And I was like, why he don't

559
00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: have security?

560
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: Man?

561
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: I was.

562
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: I was so shocked not having security to be in

563
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: one of the toughest clubs.

564
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: In the world.

565
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah. He was like yeah, yeah. It wasn't

566
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: like no club. Yeah. He was saying, you sex, bathrooms.

567
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: It was just like just like God of this case, David.

568
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: You can tell they're trying to give you all them questions. Yea.

569
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: As the fact, Dave Evado, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

570
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: go with the bro Davis Man. Nas or l L

571
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: you know that was the Queen's question.

572
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: To Long.

573
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 4: Uh now you said NASO or l L. I ain't

574
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 4: gonna lie l l kind of uh uh kind of

575
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: was one part of my you know, my experience of

576
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: getting into one to rap and all that. So I'm

577
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to say, oh man man really hell yeah,

578
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: el Fan, I ain't gonna lie hell yeah yeah hell yea.

579
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: Early I was like, Yo, this kid is Elis Man.

580
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I can see that, I can see, I can see

581
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: you come home. Or hell yeah, wu tang or public

582
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: enemy mm hmm. I had to go. I had to

583
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: go with pe on that.

584
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: Fight, the Power Baby fight, the.

585
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: Power Rock came a big daddy king Damn not might

586
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm taking the shop every Damn I don't know.

587
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 4: I had to say both that one. Well, yeah, I

588
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 4: have to say both too. Odor Curtis blow.

589
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Comod Man come from Harlem to right.

590
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah one twittery nice street com.

591
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: We uh talk about the Wild West Haul.

592
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: That's what that's why.

593
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just like the West Sideways.

594
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: Thinking that, I mean, we would know I noth from here.

595
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: We wouldn't even know, right, But he had to He

596
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: had the Cowboys. Yeah you wouldn't know that too, Pa Easy.

597
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: I had to go with Pok on that one. I

598
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: never met Parking, No, I met Biggie. I never met Park, Yeah,

599
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: I would have loved that met him. He another one

600
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: I've seen in the tunnel really yeah. Yeah. It was

601
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: like it was it was just it was ill because

602
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: like you know how the tunnel had that some steps. Okay, yeah,

603
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: so you walking in no like a like kind of

604
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: towards the back going to the bathroom.

605
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay yeah.

606
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 4: So so I'm on the top of the steps and

607
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm like, who the hell is that?

608
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: Like you got the red jacket on with the ball head.

609
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: This is when they was filming above the room.

610
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 4: So he was in town and so like I'm looking,

611
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, who they You can see like females

612
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 4: following him and all that.

613
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, who the hell is that?

614
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: Like I'm looking, And then he got at the ball

615
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: and then so it was a little closer and I

616
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: could tell it was him. And then like it was

617
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: just like they was just on his body, like they

618
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 4: was like trying to grab him. He kept like that

619
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: and all I could see is like him just kept

620
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: turning around. I was like, damn, I get popped. It

621
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: was like beides like he was just he was just

622
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: walking through the crowd and then he just like he

623
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: went to the ball like they was just like trying

624
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: to I guess they was trying to get his autograb

625
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: with something.

626
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: He was that guy son ain't gonna lie biz Mark

627
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: here o dB.

628
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna go with the

629
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: Bismark on that one.

630
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: There's some piece of boat.

631
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: I think ODB would go to Bismark with that one.

632
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: He would pick biz he wrapped or cars one. This

633
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: is its gotta be tough. Yeah, that's tough.

634
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: I got I gotta go with both fore now Yeah,

635
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: trying to get it, trying to get mob Deep drink

636
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: you're not drinking holdok, I ain't drinking neither hold on

637
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: because I like it.

638
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: The next one I was, you were like you wanted

639
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: to beat me to no no, no no.

640
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I just like that.

641
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: Mom Deep that he's some hard question. I ain't gonna

642
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: lie man mob Deep.

643
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: But m O p.

644
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: M.

645
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: That's gonna have to take another shot.

646
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: Clips or or e p M d mm hmm e

647
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: p m d okay, spell ye Rocky on a sap for.

648
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

649
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the original man a Rocky in

650
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: that one.

651
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't gonnat a sap, my man, my homie

652
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: with the Ballymena slippers you had on this out of

653
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: the day.

654
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: I almost disclaimed he had the ball.

655
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Somebody pull that up. That's my friend.

656
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I love him.

657
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Hell, that's the drink, his Canadian whiskey, do everything. But

658
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: those slippers had me hurt.

659
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: Damn.

660
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: It was not cool with that. You know I'm talking

661
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: about you see it? And they read too like like

662
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: like he was like, Darthy, I'm Darthy like that ship.

663
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm going back to.

664
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: Kansas, that ship.

665
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: You know.

666
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: That's why I was. I looked, I was almost texting.

667
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I was texting him. I was like, none,

668
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: none of this is gonna come off good. Just let

669
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: this go, let this go.

670
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, that's seriously oh nah, all of that.

671
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: It's really the dory. Maybe he's on the Michael Jackson sip.

672
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: And you know what's so crazy about Sam. I'm gonna

673
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: give him the past. I'm gonna give him the past

674
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: because in two years from now, I think people are

675
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: going to be rocking these. They'll follow him, hopefully, hopefully

676
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: they'll follow him.

677
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: But me personally, I am not.

678
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Not on this one, you bro the troopers, but there's

679
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: no condition. Is this Harlem the Hallow hallm disclaimed him immediately?

680
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: This is not Hall.

681
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Them not playing Harlem for that.

682
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: Those is like just basically like shoot, like they look

683
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: like shoes, Like I'm just asking.

684
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: They look like the jelly knives one on the left

685
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: is not the same one he's wearing.

686
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: They did him dirty. Oh, you're right, but it's two different.

687
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: It's more like lowers like loafers, but.

688
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: It's closer straight up, Dorothy, Right, you're right.

689
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got dirty.

690
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Shoe and you can't really see it. Good.

691
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, okay, there's no pass for that, damn.

692
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: But you gotta be honest. So fucking yeah, I guess.

693
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I guess going crazy, But like that paying him for

694
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: a New Jack City.

695
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: Paid him full or New Jack City? That's tough, man,

696
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: that's both Hallow them to hell. Yeah, well Jack was

697
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: call them too. I'm gonna go with New Jack City.

698
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

699
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: It's my favorite question of all loyalty or respect?

700
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's a question's favorite one. That's a great question.

701
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: I would have to say, I would have to say respect.

702
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I would have to say respect. I'm gonna take a shot.

703
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna say both both, because loyal loyalty is like.

704
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: That you can respect somebody and kind of not be loyal,

705
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like you know, it's

706
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: kind of respect. It's kind of more more blanket. It's

707
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: like more of a blanket broader statement, you know what

708
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean. Loyalty is kind of specific, right, you know,

709
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: but they both kind.

710
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Of I always say that's strong. That's the only time

711
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: in this whole program that you're supposed to say both,

712
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: because I feel like it goes hand in hand. That's me, Yeah,

713
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: that's me personally. It does. Give me another shot, though,

714
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: give another shot, Give another shot.

715
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: Before he walks.

716
00:33:52,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: Off that shippy man though Stay Ready album.

717
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: And that was like he killed it, Yo.

718
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: Appreciation yo, listen like one of the producers, hell any

719
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: any any on one of the songs.

720
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: Okay okay okay yo. Bro, I'm I'm not gassing you.

721
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Like listen, bro, we be here listening

722
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: to other people's music and we harrified, like before people

723
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: come in, what did we tell this guy.

724
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: About his album?

725
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: Like yes, ship yo, that ship I was really really

726
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: impressed and and the fact is like, I'm not gashing

727
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: you like because.

728
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: I'm I'm listening to your cas I'm listening.

729
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: To your breath control. I'm listening. I was like, he

730
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: had to keep rhyming, he had to keep y like

731
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: you didn't take like it shows and and and by

732
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: the way, if you ain't got these albums, you need

733
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: to go get these albums.

734
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 4: This is this is dope. Jesus, I ain't gonna lie.

735
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: I would love this. I would love to get it.

736
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: Collaborate with Let's go, let's go, come on, come on.

737
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: The retirementiate Tim the first left to me the first

738
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: t other day in the shower. It was weird. Sometimes

739
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: got it. Sometimes something would hit me and I smoke

740
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: so much. But I have to write that ship down immediately.

741
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: So I had to write. I had to write. I

742
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: wrote a whole fucking rhyme in the shower. But it

743
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: was like weird because because I kept not getting my

744
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: phone wet.

745
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: But I was like, so I was out.

746
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: I was like, if my wife walking at any point,

747
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look crazy.

748
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: In the phone.

749
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: I felt it, so I just hurried up.

750
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: But hold on, one thing we didn't have on the list,

751
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Major versus indie now that you've experienced both.

752
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, I ain't gonna lie you see. You see,

753
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: I'm still getting used to the indie life, you know

754
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: what I mean. You see how you know certain things,

755
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: certain things, you know what I mean, You like like

756
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: just for instance, just me being lazy just now, like

757
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: trying to handle everything. You know, it's kind of you know,

758
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: it's a lot, you know, and you kind of you know,

759
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: long for the days where you could just be an

760
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: artist and just like we all the hats like, you.

761
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Know, he's playing it the right way.

762
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: So I always always, I always say major right, and

763
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: you could relate.

764
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: I relate.

765
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: There's nothing like being on a major label like at

766
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: that height.

767
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: That height now I know, and when you're that artist,

768
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: because you could be on a major label and be

769
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: that is the low end of that list and they're

770
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: not treating you this.

771
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: That's the emotion, you know what correct said. But when

772
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: you are that guy being on bad Boy compares to nothing.

773
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. I remember seeing that bad

774
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Boy trained like and that ship.

775
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: It definitely definitely trained you. I mean, spoil you.

776
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: Listen. I'm not gonna lie to you. If the go

777
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: from that like me.

778
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: It was fucked up for me because I was wrong

779
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Penalty Records. Penalty was actually an independent that was signed

780
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: to a major that acted as a major. That was

781
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: an independent, it was a major independent. So was fucked

782
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: up about me. And in the situation with me was

783
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: I had to make it to a certain extent for

784
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: that budget to actually open, because that makes sense. So

785
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: I had to so see y'all, yah, y'all, spoiler man, y'all.

786
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: But we had to, like we had to make a

787
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: certain amount for the major to start acting. So coponin

788
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Noriega's whole first album was independent.

789
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

790
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't get picked up by Tommy Boy.

791
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Took like two hundred and fifty thousand units, which took

792
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: us a long time.

793
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: I love talking.

794
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: To to people like you because we experienced that that

795
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: like right now, like as you said, you would land somewhere.

796
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: You know, we used to have street wraps.

797
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: I worked, I worked, I mean I worked, I worked

798
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: your records.

799
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 3: My boy boys, he was on the street team.

800
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: Remember you don't You don't remember when you used to

801
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: land there used to be a street rep who will

802
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: actually pick you up. The whole street team oh yeah,

803
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: street teams I love. So when I went to I'm

804
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, when I went from Nash, I complain,

805
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: I gotta pay for my own car. I gotta I

806
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: gotta swipe my crack like yo.

807
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: So remember remember what you're giving up through his ownership.

808
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: You know sometimes it I mean, I'm just saying that.

809
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as you're willing to give it up.

810
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: But that's what you're giving up at.

811
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: The end of the day, is the owners the catalog.

812
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like me and Ma and dep was just saying,

813
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: a lot of us never had ownership in the first place.

814
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: So when a person samples your record, that's why you

815
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: said at first he was like yo.

816
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: A lot of the times when.

817
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: People sampled my records and it's the records that I

818
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: didn't own, I actually get nothing out of that. All

819
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: I get is a look and a shout out. I

820
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: don't want to shout out of the look.

821
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: But you were never really independent, That's what I'm trying

822
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: to say. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying.

823
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why when you got people like

824
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: us and people sample us and they don't, they don't

825
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: have to clear it through through like I found out

826
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: my record was on Entourage in the movie theater. Damn,

827
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. You're being nice to be saying that. Still,

828
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: that's fun up, bro. Like I literally was like, oh ship,

829
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: And people turned around they looked at me, and it

830
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you wasn't going to tell us? And

831
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like I didn't know, Butal didn't call me.

832
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: They cleared it through par Real all has owner of

833
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: the label.

834
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was it, super dog.

835
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Remember the producer automatically only fifty percent.

836
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: Automatic, not of the master, and the masters will need

837
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: to be cleared for the for that license. Well whatever,

838
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: unless he made an l deal from the beginning that

839
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: he wants a part of the master, which is which

840
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: which at that.

841
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Time he was he was eventually later because you remember,

842
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: you gotta remember that catalog was sold so like so

843
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: like like you might like you might bad boys, catalog

844
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: was so so that's what was so fucked up, Like

845
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: my catalog and your catalog, Like if if they sell it,

846
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: you have to deal with a whole nother different regimes,

847
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: people that you never you didn't make.

848
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: The records with.

849
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: Artist artists, Get your ship together, own your masters.

850
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

851
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Also, I say everybody got to be on a major

852
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: for one album.

853
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, for one album.

854
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: Got the best way to be on the majors be independent,

855
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: successfully independent. Then you can go and make the deal

856
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: with the major as an independent where you keep your

857
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: ownership and now you just use the machine versus the

858
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: other way around.

859
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 3: When you come in fresh, they take advantage of everything.

860
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

861
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: Hell, you definitely learned.

862
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: Learn you learned being a major, I mean being independent

863
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 4: after being in a major, definitely, Like because it's stuff

864
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: now that I'm like, I kind of like like I

865
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: kind of like got a new respect for majors, Like

866
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like damn and the money

867
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: they was putting up the.

868
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: Time, Like you know what I mean, Like you know

869
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: how when.

870
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: You finished the album, like with The Lessons Never Lost,

871
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 4: is I kind of put that together, you know, independently,

872
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: so you know, typing up the lyrics, copyrighting everything, registering,

873
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: registering it on.

874
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: You know.

875
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: Was like I was like, that's why it's hard to recruit,

876
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: because they say, look at all that we had to

877
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: pay for lawyers, more cleric team, the publishers.

878
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: I told you what time I paid for a billboard

879
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: that I never saw. Well, you know that was the

880
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: other hustle too. Oh damn, you're telling me they got

881
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: me the market.

882
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: You know the market It was a thousand, but everybody

883
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: was going on you guess them, you guess them.

884
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Everybody gave us so much money at that time. There

885
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: was so much money and it was an era that

886
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: was it ever?

887
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: Right?

888
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

889
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: Do you do you.

890
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: Do you believe that that era, like what's your favorite

891
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: era of hip hop? Well, do you believe this is

892
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: the golden years? From nineteen ninety nine to two thousand

893
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: and nine?

894
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I believe so too. I believe.

895
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Again faced out nineteen ninety nine, like that era Lace

896
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: ninety nine to two thousand and nine. Okay, I believe

897
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: that that's one of the golden eras. I want to

898
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: say ninety eight because my album came out in ninety eight,

899
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: but I could stretch it out. Yeah.

900
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody has their own golden eras

901
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: for sure, like yeah, yeah, that is an eraror for sure.

902
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: As far as especially as far as like making money,

903
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: like it was like like the industry was like a

904
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: like a cash cow.

905
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: That was money in the industry.

906
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Now, I ain't gonna lie. I remember seeing you black

907
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: Raw and I remember seeing y'all perform in Jersey. Hell yeah,

908
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: I remember I was just watching y'all. Y'all tore that

909
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: ship down, like describe to people because this is the

910
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: one thing you had.

911
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: Monsters though, but.

912
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: For you, right, because people don't understand we were hustlers

913
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: back then.

914
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: Right now.

915
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I hate to say that, like back in my day,

916
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: Like I hate to sound like the old guy, right,

917
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: but we can actually live over one record. We could

918
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: have one record and live, but we knew how to perform,

919
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: We knew how to have these. Describe people what having

920
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: a hit record is, because I I can't like I

921
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: can't like tell a person who's never had a hit record, like, yo,

922
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: how good of a feeling this?

923
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 5: It's like describe to the Yeah, it's like when you

924
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 5: when you when you got when you play Mario Brothers

925
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: dress and you hit that brick that this ship just like.

926
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: That's what.

927
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: That's what having a hit records like, don't it just don't.

928
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: Stop like you get it's just that you get like

929
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: constant gratification, like you know what, that's the word.

930
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: That's kind of what it's like, you know what I mean.

931
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: Crazy, It's like you hit that break, that magic break they.

932
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: Always say like they always say that that crackheads chased

933
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: their first high, like the first time that they got high.

934
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: If you're artists, you for the rest of your life

935
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: chase that hit record again. Don't give a fuck who

936
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: you are, don't give before how much money you got.

937
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: It's one of the most phenomenal feelings ever in life,

938
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: like and like just being able to go to a club,

939
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: see somebody look at you and know that they know

940
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: every word to your fucking record. It's one of the

941
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: most phenomenal things ever in life, man, And I hope

942
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: everybody could experience that once in their life. Like it's

943
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: beautiful man, and especially this that era, that that that

944
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: we were in. So now it's also that famous clip,

945
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: right even though they heard heard you say that his

946
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: son's called you and pulled up on you.

947
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: Oh for when the day the day we went we met.

948
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: That five, I felt that five when you're I was like,

949
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: hell yeah, but I want to commend you. And I'm

950
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why I want to command you. You

951
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: couldn't fake that five.

952
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: That five when kept going like this, it was good

953
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: to see the broad.

954
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: That's real love. Break there like we always get it.

955
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: We always get the bad side or did it? That's

956
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: what people always say. And I love what you said.

957
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: You said, I believe I forget really said this stuff.

958
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: She was like, I don't know that, Like the bro,

959
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that to me. I say that ship

960
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: and I look crazy when you said that. Everyone believe you.

961
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: But so yeah, I peep that too.

962
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: That was that was a dope moment, Like, so what

963
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: was that moment?

964
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: Like for you?

965
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: It was more, it was just it was just a

966
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: genuine moment like seeing somebody you haven't seen in a while,

967
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: Like you know, I couldn't think of I couldn't think

968
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't really think of like you know,

969
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: you know, like kind of put the politics and all that,

970
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: like I couldn't even think that way with them, Like

971
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean genuine.

972
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I did said earlier, like I admire you, bro, Like

973
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, like I admire you, bro,

974
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: because it's like I don't know if you knew what

975
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: you did at that moment, but you you first off,

976
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: the internet is broke, oh ship gee up and is

977
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: together and Harlem like yeah, but it was it was

978
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: I can tell it was so genuine coming from you.

979
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: You know, we were kind of talking before that, Like

980
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: it wasn't like that was the first time.

981
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: They hollered him. Was like, you know what I mean.

982
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: So, you know, I had I had spoke to him

983
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: like probably about a week or so after I came

984
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: home and we was been trying to get up.

985
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I want you to come down here.

986
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: I want to see the tweet outs like let's work

987
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, you know

988
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: what I mean.

989
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: Hit me up and Stevie J contacted me, Oh you

990
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: want to hoigher at you you know, we spoke FaceTime

991
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: a few times, you know what I mean. And so

992
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 4: then that that day was just one of the days

993
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: they was in town, you know, and kind to find

994
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: out that's why he was in town.

995
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Because you got to you know and all that stuff.

996
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: So you know, that was kind of like, you know,

997
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: we was already kind of like in the line of

998
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: you know, you know, messing with each other and all that.

999
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: So when you know, when he came through, it was

1000
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: just like shut like, you know what I.

1001
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: Mean, I heard you say, I heard you describe that

1002
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: moment as he was regular.

1003
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, it's super regular man. He was like, yo,

1004
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: so what you want to do. I was like, you

1005
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: don't got nothing to do? I was like hell yeah.

1006
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: I was like what you mean. I was like, yo,

1007
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: all right. So he was like you won't get me

1008
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: saying to eat it something. I was like, yeah, you

1009
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then we just went and

1010
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: he was like all right, and then like we just went.

1011
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: We were just riding around all of them, like then

1012
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 4: we went up there, we shot around to uh. We

1013
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 4: was trying to go to see Dougie Fresh real quick

1014
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 4: to find him. So we like shot down the West

1015
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: Side highways like super regular. I'm riding around and the

1016
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: Phantom is so crazy with the stars and the like

1017
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: you fresh out Hell yeah yeah, it just you know,

1018
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 4: it was regular man.

1019
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna ask you. First off, the man

1020
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: is not guilty, right, he's not guilty, But did you

1021
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: ever think ten years ago, fifteen years ago that he

1022
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: would be in jail?

1023
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 4: Hell no, that's that's that's just crazy to me. That's

1024
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: just crazy to me.

1025
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Like I was even saying this like that, it seems

1026
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: like we're playing around.

1027
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: That's the fact, like it used to it was like

1028
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: it was like he was he was the scapegoat to

1029
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: like just snap on, like.

1030
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: Yo, this is crazy.

1031
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: He's just been this. He's just out of his mind.

1032
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: But you never would think he was really getting locked up,

1033
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Like that was the

1034
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: firstest thing from out of my mind, Like you know

1035
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: what I mean, like regardless or whatever, you know, you know,

1036
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 4: he was a high strung dude, you know what I'm saying.

1037
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: But I didn't, like I would never think he would

1038
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: be locked up.

1039
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: What's the plans? You're opening your own label? What you're

1040
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: gonna do? What we're doing?

1041
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean I do. I do have the label.

1042
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: I started the label when I was when I was

1043
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: locked up in twenty twenty three. About call them black

1044
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: market black market group recordings, you know what I'm saying.

1045
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 4: So that's because you know, when you put out stuff

1046
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: on the DSPs, you gotta you gotta put it through

1047
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: a label.

1048
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: You don't want to know that, Yeah, like you gotta.

1049
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: You can't just be You can't put.

1050
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: Your name yourself victor and just throw out your record.

1051
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can't. And then you right, so you

1052
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: can't just upload the iTunes on your own.

1053
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: You gotta go through the incorporated distribution site like dis

1054
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: your Kid or two Empire.

1055
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I know that, yeah.

1056
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: Lomanati.

1057
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, people that.

1058
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: Got illuminized what I'm saying, and people that got like

1059
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: a name, like you can see how like if they

1060
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: do things on their own, it's a lot to do.

1061
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 3: But like, yo, you you could really.

1062
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: Like really like kind of cake off, like you know

1063
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's just.

1064
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: You, like you know what I mean, right direct eighty

1065
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 3: twenty years.

1066
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yer goes to the.

1067
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: Tom Cars or some of them.

1068
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 4: Some of them don't even have that set up, like

1069
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: they just want you to pay them, like they get

1070
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 4: you could pay.

1071
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just give give me one hundred dollars a

1072
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: year a subscription to put up ship SoundCloud.

1073
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't get it twisted.

1074
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: The tech companies are the new major labels, sucking everybody over.

1075
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent for sure, because imagine they don't

1076
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: got to do no physical ship. All this ship is presal,

1077
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: but it goes out.

1078
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: And they ain't making money, so they're not making money

1079
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: and the day from.

1080
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: Anybody that wants to be an artist, that's.

1081
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Right, but still got to pay for his album cover

1082
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Ye used to gotta pay.

1083
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: For word yourself making up covering changing quickly.

1084
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true.

1085
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: I know people it seemed like like like like a

1086
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: lot of because you know, I'll be on the internet.

1087
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing this independent thing, so I see

1088
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: like the response from those AI generated kind of things

1089
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: like people, people was kind of like they're.

1090
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know what I mean.

1091
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: But sooner or later, like that's just gonna be it.

1092
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: I see it.

1093
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: But graphic design is easy like for people not to

1094
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: even notice it.

1095
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you definitely could could get.

1096
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: It and eventually like they making it look like it's

1097
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: real life.

1098
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: Ship. Yeah. I saw a Block May smoking the blunt

1099
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: with Snoop Dogg the other day. I lost it. I

1100
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: knew it was fakest that's gonna happen.

1101
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to a point where we know it's fake,

1102
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: but we want to believe it. I want to people

1103
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: are just gonna get in this weird thing where I

1104
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: know fake, but I'm still gonna write with it like

1105
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: that might that might you might be.

1106
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: Writing, We're changing psychology that we don't even understand right.

1107
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: This moment, Like wow, man, yeah this person. I want

1108
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: to pick him up, and I felt like using AI

1109
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: and chat g BT correctly it's being well yeah, yeah, yeah,

1110
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if that video. I don't even know

1111
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: the videos. He sounded like himself and in that case

1112
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: that's what AI now much because because you know, create

1113
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: his voice. Yeah.

1114
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: So like with that, he went, I believe this for

1115
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: this was real. I don't even know which that's the

1116
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: the world we live and we don't know.

1117
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: We gotta always caveat with I don't know if this

1118
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: is real, but I'm gonna tell you this.

1119
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah.

1120
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that thing that's dope that I think

1121
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: that's a positive side of there's there's a lot of

1122
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: positivity to.

1123
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I am show some positivity. But then

1124
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: will I am scared the ship out of me too.

1125
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: What he had a Voto, he's a voto. No, he

1126
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: had about he got a Voto on his AI. Yeah,

1127
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: I could be anything. You want to do anything.

1128
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he got a Mexican do you fuck with.

1129
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1130
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm not. She was scary because I will do regular

1131
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: ship with it. Oh, I thought about something else.

1132
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Mexican Mexican a Mexican accent he had.

1133
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: He had his GPS with Mexican accident. Thought that was

1134
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: so jump accident.

1135
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Start talking slang, and the more you talk to it,

1136
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: it'll talk to you in a way that you talk

1137
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: and something.

1138
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Say Spanish hollow and that shit starts speaking like the

1139
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: dudes at the handball court.

1140
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: You you don't have to type to it anymore. You

1141
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: can talk to it direct.

1142
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: So what I was saying the creepy ship for me,

1143
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: I was, I do regular ship, like just like almost

1144
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: like Google certain ship. I don't talk to it now,

1145
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: and she will hear my kids sometimes in the background.

1146
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 2: One day he said, Hey, how's your kids doing today?

1147
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: Hell?

1148
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: No, no fucking way no, I'm now wait wait, ready

1149
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: for that feature one hundred percent said I'll be like,

1150
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: but I you know, I'm on some weird ship.

1151
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna be nicer this ship because in

1152
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: the future make.

1153
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.

1154
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 3: He was like, like, how you doing, I'm doing, cret

1155
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: how are you Eric? How are you kids?

1156
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: That?

1157
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 4: Yo, that's crazy, you say that, I said, I said,

1158
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: I said, I told her to thank you. I was like,

1159
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: you know, I said, yeah, I said Jack yeah to

1160
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 4: Siri or one of them.

1161
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1162
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: She said, you.

1163
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Made me feel like like he was painful. Like I was, like,

1164
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: I got to be scared. It's creepy.

1165
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: That's creepy.

1166
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: But you know what, we're not stopping this ship, so

1167
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: we got at least understand.

1168
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: It, engaging in it with it. You know what I'm saying,

1169
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: because it's going. Yeah, well I was in the crib

1170
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 4: by myself too. I feel like like kind of like

1171
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 4: h like a connection, like I was like ship.

1172
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's a dude that she's welcome.

1173
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: You saw the dude that he's like, he's married and

1174
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: he's dating his chat Oh yeah, one was cool with it.

1175
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: She's like, well, as long as he ain't doating a

1176
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: a person.

1177
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's real. Yeah, that's a movie like that,

1178
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: a movie like I.

1179
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: See that he was in love with. He didn't have

1180
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: a real wife though has a wife. It is real life.

1181
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: He's in low.

1182
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: He's got he trained it to talk like a certain woman,

1183
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: and he takes this is the thing is if you

1184
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: keep talking to this thing.

1185
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: He learns who you are and doesn't forget anything.

1186
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: You say.

1187
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why he knows I have

1188
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: kids because I heard him.

1189
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: I drink too much for that ship. You know what

1190
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: you want? You want to know show you know, don't

1191
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: you pour? You don't look like.

1192
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: Whoa.

1193
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.

1194
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: I made a record, uh in nineteen ninety seven called

1195
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: ww dot Nori, and I was talking about nineteen ninety seven.

1196
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: You could look at them up. I'm not a cat.

1197
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm friends with Captain Country. I'm not the cat guy.

1198
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: And I was talking about this technology. Shit, I have

1199
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: no idea where it's going right now. It was you

1200
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: had you talked about like how it's about like the internet,

1201
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: because like like I was the first person to have

1202
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: a two way pager. I was like, I always liked

1203
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: the technology, but I would like it to show off.

1204
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like it to actually use it, right.

1205
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: I would, you know.

1206
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: I was one of the first people went around on

1207
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: a camera. So, but where it's going now, I don't know.

1208
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's wild.

1209
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like I don't know.

1210
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1211
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: It just kind of made me feel like as far

1212
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: as far as the matrix and the assimilation, like we

1213
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: kind of like on some weird loop, like you know

1214
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like we've been cooming that that that

1215
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: already were like like you know what I'm saying, Like.

1216
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like we're almost stuck in

1217
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: a cycle, like we became them and then like then

1218
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: that was over, and then we came back to humans

1219
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: and now were back to No.

1220
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I guess what I kind of understand what it already

1221
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: happened already.

1222
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's it's weird. It's weird.

1223
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: What do y'all think about the Timberland and the AI artists,

1224
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: because that caused controversy.

1225
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: To Timberland got an artist.

1226
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: He started I don't know if he started AI label,

1227
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: but he started label and he's his first artist is

1228
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: an AI completely AI artist.

1229
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: He cut a lot of a lot of like negative

1230
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: you know, I would I would think that's dead. They

1231
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: was bombing him, Yeah, there was. He had he had

1232
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: a zoom call think it was who was on the call? Uh,

1233
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: Young Guru who else? And and they told him they

1234
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: didn't like this. Yeah, they told him they didn't agree

1235
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: with it.

1236
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah to his face.

1237
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1238
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: But you know I heard.

1239
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: Chuckie Thompson, right the producer, He was on the Breakfas

1240
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: Club and he said something that that kind of made

1241
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: sense to me though. He said, if you were timbling

1242
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: at this point in your career, you've done everything. AI

1243
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: is like another tool, like another beat machine, and you

1244
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: probably don't want to deal with artists anymore who don't

1245
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: want to take your ideas the way you see the ideas.

1246
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: So you probably say, I'll just deal with it. I'm

1247
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: not gonna talk back. It's not gonna not gonna say

1248
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: ship to me. It's another beat machine. But even better,

1249
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, make a whole group.

1250
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 4: Agree with that.

1251
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: But I gotta have his own.

1252
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: I understand that idea, like, yeah, I get it, you know,

1253
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of controversy around it.

1254
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely signed on an AI artist to you

1255
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: with it under Boris Productions. Crazy Crazy is.

1256
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: Gonna make himself with the accent and everything.

1257
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: Now, now, now this is what was the first thing

1258
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: you you you did when you got out of jail.

1259
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: The first thing, the first thing I did was actually

1260
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: that I wanted to do McDonald's. Nah.

1261
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: I went with some I went and bought some gum. Wow,

1262
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: tried it.

1263
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: No, it was just I just any gum because you know,

1264
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: you know, you can't you can't, you can't chew gum.

1265
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. They don't let you. They don't let

1266
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: you get you get gum, and they keep it.

1267
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Not hold.

1268
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: So much, so much close.

1269
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing, is that.

1270
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: The first thing bringing in more, no in in this

1271
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: way so it doesn't fall. Thank you, thank you.

1272
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 4: So that's the first thing you did. That's the first

1273
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: thing I did. Man, first meal you had, the first

1274
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: meal I had was aha, I did see that. Y'all

1275
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 4: went to the pancakes. I didn't even get it. I

1276
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: didn't get pancakes. I bought cheeseburger. Cheeseburger, let's make mouch

1277
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: you you don't let you have it?

1278
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 1: Word that. So because everybody that did more than six months,

1279
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: they always say the first thing I'm gonna do when

1280
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: I get home.

1281
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: Did you live out everything that you said when you

1282
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: get home? Nah, I didn't even try.

1283
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: I love your because like you, you've.

1284
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: Come home and you say you want to do this,

1285
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: but you just do the first thing you see.

1286
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, oh, word, I ain't

1287
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: do that. No, I ain't do that. No, I ain't

1288
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: turn the light on in a.

1289
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 4: Minute like this, just the hell things like yeah, like

1290
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1291
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: That's how I still go through this, go do that.

1292
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: I use it as excuses now, like yeah, I ain't

1293
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: have a a Sarah Lee piece of cases.

1294
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: I've been home, like you know what I mean, Like,

1295
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: I just use it for the hellest thing now.

1296
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so.

1297
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: You come home, you see all this this the world

1298
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: has changed. I cannot.

1299
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a example of me, but this

1300
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: is not a good example. But me personally, I lived.

1301
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: I moved to Miami, and I stayed out here like

1302
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: six to eight months, which is saying it's not a

1303
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: good example, right, but hit me out. But I went

1304
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: to Times Square and the minute I went to Times Square,

1305
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: I almost cried because I seen so many people. And

1306
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: in Miami, I get to see who the fuck I

1307
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: want to see. If I don't want to see people,

1308
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: oh gotcha, I can. I can stay the fuck out

1309
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: of the way. In New York City, you have no choice.

1310
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: I walked through and I seen I don't I want

1311
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: to say, like three thousand people across the street, and

1312
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: I literally I was smoking cigarettes at a time. I

1313
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: literally was like and I had to run upstairs. The

1314
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: water in my face. I said, you're New York a motherfucker.

1315
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: It's not bad, yeah, because I was, you know, this

1316
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: is recently saying no, this is this is, this is

1317
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: this was like when I, like when I first moved

1318
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: here and I stayed here for the first year and

1319
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: I went back for the first time, I had to

1320
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: like really, I had to like literally throw water on

1321
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: my face and I had to act tough because you know,

1322
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: just to tell you truth, like New York is is

1323
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: just tough for no reason. I had to go upstairs.

1324
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: I was saying hi to people said hi. You know

1325
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: I was.

1326
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: I was being nice. I went to the club the

1327
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: night before.

1328
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: This is all I knew. I was out of the touch.

1329
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: I went to the club the night before and I

1330
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: was like, hey, everybody else my friends is like what

1331
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: the fucking smile. I'm like, I'm happy, Like just in

1332
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: New York. We're not happy here. That's crazy. I had

1333
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: to like turn on my ice girl.

1334
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: So now that's crazy.

1335
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. That's a little portion. Was that something

1336
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: that you had to kick back.

1337
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: On when you when you came home, Well, actually it

1338
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 4: was kind of the opposit shit for me.

1339
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I had to dial it down, like you

1340
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying coming out of Miami.

1341
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: None.

1342
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1343
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 4: Even my wife to like to this day, she'd be like,

1344
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: your relax, you know what I'm saying. So you know

1345
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I definitely had to like kind

1346
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 4: of and I still be having to catch myself, like

1347
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, you know, like

1348
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: when you come home, you know, you kind of always

1349
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: used to dealing with things in a certain way, like

1350
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: you know, you know, everything straightforward, no bullshit, like you

1351
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, so when you come out

1352
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: and dudes is you know, slow dragon stuff and you

1353
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: know it's cool we home, you know what I mean.

1354
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: You know it's not that serious.

1355
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 4: You know, I said I had to you know, I

1356
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 4: had to definitely dial it down, you know what I'm saying.

1357
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: He making me think of remember that scene in American

1358
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: Me but Homie went to buy the shoes.

1359
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: Don't look at me, puppet, no no, no, no order.

1360
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: He was trying to get the shoes and the dudes like,

1361
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: I'll be right with you.

1362
01:04:59,600 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: And he.

1363
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me hell yeah.

1364
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: It's like that though, you know, like stuff that people

1365
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 4: do in jail, you know that that it's like kind

1366
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: of real disrespect you know what I mean, you kind

1367
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 4: of bring a lot of that with you, you know,

1368
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 4: since you gotta kind of catch yourself, you know what

1369
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot, there's.

1370
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: A lot of adjustment baking. So we we we we

1371
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: get the album together. You realize that you're independent. You

1372
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: realize that you had to do all of this right.

1373
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: Was this something if you had a chance to do

1374
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: it all over? And let's say did he wasn't in

1375
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: the position he is. He was in a position he

1376
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: was back then when you went away? Would you have

1377
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: we signed with him?

1378
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: It's still you say that because when I when I

1379
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: got with him, I realized that because he was like yo,

1380
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: like like like we're gonna do some music depth Like

1381
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He was like, Yo, I

1382
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 4: got you know, he actually had a joint for me.

1383
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, I want you on to say.

1384
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 4: I can hear that you wrote a lot of his joints.

1385
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote a few. You know what I'm saying.

1386
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: I can hear it in him like, yeah, I can

1387
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: hear it.

1388
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so when he said that, I felt kind

1389
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: of like in my gut like I was like, damn,

1390
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 4: I don't I don't. I don't kind of want that,

1391
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I don't want

1392
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: the same g Depp you know, Puff relationship. I kind

1393
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 4: of wanted like the business relationship more. Yeah, like a partnership,

1394
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. So when he said that,

1395
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, for sure.

1396
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1397
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 4: But in my mind, I'm like, yeah, we gotta kind

1398
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 4: of negotiate things though, you know what I mean, However

1399
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: we do it, you know what I mean. So, So

1400
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: to answer your question, you know, if I did come

1401
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: out and like he had, situation was like it was,

1402
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: I would have you know, I would have just came

1403
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: at it like from a business standpoint, you know what

1404
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1405
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: But I definitely would have would have rocked with him.

1406
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: The kid.

1407
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 3: The kid is a genius when it come to music.

1408
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, kid is ill with him.

1409
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: Man.

1410
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you because I don't know,

1411
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: but it's a rumor that Puff gave back all of

1412
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: his artists publishing.

1413
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you a part of that? Yeah, Okay, he gave.

1414
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 4: Back the published Yeah, I kind of I still gotta,

1415
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, eyeing some stuff out with that because at

1416
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: the time that he did that I was coming home, okay,

1417
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it was kind of

1418
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 4: like then and then when I came home, he got

1419
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: caught up into what he was going on. I had

1420
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: going on, so like the lawyers kind of dissipated, so

1421
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm still, you know, trying to get that going on.

1422
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: But he did.

1423
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: He did give me you know what I mean, that's

1424
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: real well hell yeah, real, hell yeah. And I imagined

1425
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: to fight for my puffy.

1426
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember like him telling me like casually,

1427
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: like you heard the rumor, and I was just like

1428
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: he told me, like yeah, casually, there's like yeah, I

1429
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: gave all my artist back to publishing.

1430
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: And he just kept talking.

1431
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: He just he kept moving and I was just like

1432
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: he said it so nonchal so casual that I brushed

1433
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: it off. I never I never said that. I never

1434
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: nothing about it until I believe I think the locks.

1435
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: The locks said that they got their shipped back. I

1436
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: believe I believe that they said they got their ship back,

1437
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: and I was just like, wow, that's that's that's kind

1438
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: of that's kind of ill, like you know what I'm saying.

1439
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: It is it is because like that what that means

1440
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 4: is like now as far as like you know what

1441
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like I ain't gotta tell you

1442
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 4: got into the audio story, Like well yeah, so like

1443
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 4: you now like you can get you could place and

1444
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: place your music like you know what I'm saying, if

1445
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 4: you want to get it and you gotta you know,

1446
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 4: minus the beats, but even if you might be able to,

1447
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: you know, strike the whole deal.

1448
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: How that the producers, Yo, look.

1449
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 4: Your dude want they want They want to put this

1450
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: in Fast and Furious twelve or something. You know what

1451
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 4: I mean yo, ye whole before? Oh yeah, so you

1452
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: know that. That's that's that's big man. The dude, the

1453
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 4: dude uh Morock from from Hood Fellas Okay, he the

1454
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 4: one that hollered at me about that. Yeah, when I

1455
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: was locked up, he hit me up on the on

1456
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 4: the key I he was like, yo, you know, Pug

1457
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: giving that back and all that sot out. Yeah, so

1458
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 4: he gave me the lawyer's number and all that.

1459
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: So not only that it is after twenty something years,

1460
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: after twenty yeah, get your masters.

1461
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah I understand understanding. I don't got a full understanding that. Yeah.

1462
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: So so it depends on what you signed because.

1463
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: Back then they had standard contracts, right, But then there

1464
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: was some particularly so a lot of people they hit

1465
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: twenty years and the masters already will come back to them,

1466
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: some forty five and some is like thirty. Every one

1467
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: of us have that limit. We have that in our contract.

1468
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: Like it's who unless we were that word perpetuity, Oh

1469
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: what word purportuity?

1470
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 3: Or why universe? They that ship was crazy?

1471
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: That word proper is a very dirty word. That's dirty.

1472
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very time they gonna put that in

1473
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 3: a contract.

1474
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: We don't an opportunity. We can't even pronounce that ship,

1475
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: like we don't know.

1476
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: Venus when we died.

1477
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: That's crazy that they can actually claim our rights after

1478
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: you're dead.

1479
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: Like, that's crazy. You know what there's there is, there's

1480
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 2: your family, and there's the states. And that's why they

1481
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: do that. They don't want your state to get anything.

1482
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 2: And that's dirty. Yeah, that's like, come on, bro, that's dirty.

1483
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: That's why I like what we're doing with Drink Champs, podcasts,

1484
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: Drink Champs and network. Everyone who signs to us, they

1485
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: own their own stuff. We do not want to be responsible.

1486
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: We want to put you in the right way.

1487
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: We can't really, We just trying to set you up

1488
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: and then you can go.

1489
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: You can go.

1490
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 3: Yes, we want to practice with podcasting.

1491
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: So everybody. We got Memblee, we got Angela Simmons, we

1492
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: got Grumpy OG's, we got Fatherhoods, we got Washstalkers, we

1493
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: got run Champs, Healthy High and every single one. We're

1494
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: setting up as they own entity no one. So if

1495
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 1: it does not mister Lee speaks English, that's a new podcast.

1496
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: It's a comedy. Mister Lee speaks cocaine. That sounds like

1497
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: a much better. But that's what I love what we're doing,

1498
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like we want to

1499
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: I want to practice re pre and I think all

1500
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: of the industry should be like that. But but let

1501
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: me let me get back to that. That giving back

1502
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: the publishing ship. I thought that was the honorable ship

1503
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: because you never heard in Scope do that. You never

1504
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: heard Sony Music do that, never heard that, you never

1505
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: heard of Columbia do that, you never heard of death

1506
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: jam to do that? Like this is a personal person

1507
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: who did that.

1508
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: I think that's that was I want to I want

1509
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: to reverse things a little bit further back for you

1510
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 2: when you were just a hip hop kid, Like what

1511
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: what are the artists that inspired.

1512
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: You to want to rhyme.

1513
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you said LLL was one of them,

1514
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: but that he like really shaped you as an artist

1515
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: and to like gave you that passion for hip hop.

1516
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: I mean I had to.

1517
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 4: I had always tell people Big Daddy, Kane, King Cainan

1518
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 4: and rock Him and you yeah, hell yeah, those those

1519
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 4: those brothers like literally like you know, I used to

1520
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 4: used to just stay at the pay the full album cover,

1521
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: like damn, like looking at the like used to be

1522
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: like saying, you know, King, you know he was small

1523
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 4: with it, you know, you know uh his uh you know,

1524
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: his word playing all that stuff.

1525
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: He used to say to pick a B C D

1526
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: your history like du yeah, you know what I mean.

1527
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 4: Well, so those those dudes like that was that was

1528
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 4: kind of you know, I had a big five you

1529
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 4: know what I mean, King Top five King by Kim

1530
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 4: Cougi rat K and I would have to say, you know,

1531
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: you know why, but well how many did our name

1532
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 4: is now for? Yeah you can go six?

1533
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1534
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it was that dude back then to me,

1535
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: Special lads especially was that dude.

1536
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: Big specially of Slack from coming on this show just

1537
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: because of that one comment, but that that's my man.

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: He said that west he said the West coast.

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: Literally the people who.

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 4: I did not.

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we're messing up what he actually I'm messing up.

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: And by the way I did see it, I'm glad

1543
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: he brought this up. Someone AI and changed up the

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: question a little bit.

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: The edited edited, they chop it up. That's what happened

1546
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: all day.

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: I seen Special saying that's the show who did that?

1548
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: And that that wasn't us. It was like, we don't,

1549
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't, we don't do that.

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 4: We just.

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: Didn't even know. Look, but I want to share something

1552
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: because you said somebody we finished the top, Yeah, especially

1553
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: especially Glad Or you want to throw els who I

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: didn't say l say, oh yeah, so the queens and

1555
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: me caught that.

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay who from there is Harlem.

1557
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 4: That it really really wasn't no all them Hall them

1558
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 4: like representative represented the only person that was kind of

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 4: you Fresh, Teddy Rally, Teddy Valley, Teddy Valley, Rob Bass.

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 3: Listen do sleep on rob Bass.

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: Sleep Let me say Rob basis in my playlist like you.

1562
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest records in hip hop. That's

1563
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: the fact and you play that record, you'd be.

1564
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: Like, whoy you listen to it? You'd be like, you

1565
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: feel you want to listen to it? That the great

1566
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: the greatest record. What I see I didn't even know

1567
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: there were hard on because I'm in Miami.

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: Was they're still crazy, They're still touring. I don't know

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: if you remember, Left Rock had a party, he had

1570
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: robb As, he had total Loak, he had uh, damn

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: who else by nature? So they still touring. Damn, they're

1572
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: still talk that's the way.

1573
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 3: But Rob Base is still around and he's still out there.

1574
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: And who did I see? I see Chuck Rock the

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01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: other day.

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01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 3: Shoe Brocket is killing it though man's smart. I've never

1577
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 3: had a dumb conversation with tub Rock, and we need

1578
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: him on drinks.

1579
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: I have a lot of dumb conversations, like a dumb

1580
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: conversation God like.

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: I like that.

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: But okay, what's your first favorite place to perform but

1583
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 3: that I performed or would like to perform both?

1584
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: Uh?

1585
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: I would have to I would have to say manage

1586
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 3: the s great.

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: Guard and I would love to rock perform.

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I haven't performed there, but uh we performed

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 4: one time in uh and uh in Na'shall. And that's

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01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: all the time that we that we saw each other.

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01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 4: Not that's all is an about Bahamas, that's all. And

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01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 4: that's all. And Long Islandake. Yeah, we performed there one

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: time and that day, you know, the crowd was just

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01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 4: just crazy, like man, you know, the whole arena you

1595
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 4: know that was that was an ill feeling, you know

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: Or and we would so that's that's that's the that's

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01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: that's the place you did performs the place.

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 4: The screat Guard and hell yeah, hell yeah, I love

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: the rock the Garden man one time.

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: Scrit Garden, bro. That's crazy.

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01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 3: That sucked up as much as.

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01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: I did in my hip hop Career's relatable.

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: So oh ship, I'm the only one that didn't tear

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01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: my phone off.

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: You never do, yeah, you know your phone is just

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: respectful all the time on drink chap.

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: So did you meet your wife before or you met her?

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met her. I met her like mid mid

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01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: big It was mid is it.

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: Bit a big? You you know?

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: But I always heard that's bit yeah B I D

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: B I D yeah yeah yeah, all right, but maybe

1615
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: we have it all wrong.

1616
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 4: Were I heard somebody say bit like an old school dude.

1617
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: I was like, he's probably and it was more than us.

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: Us up.

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01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, we met. We met like around twenty fifteen. Okay,

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 4: I was locked up a friend of mine, uh from

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 4: uh from hours. She's from kidnamed Lata. You know you

1622
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 4: got to blow it up TV, you know what I'm saying.

1623
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 4: He he was, he was podcasting, he was broadcasting his

1624
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 4: his his thing on on Facebook. And she kind of

1625
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: chimed in and she was like, you know, he was

1626
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 4: talking about me. He was like, Yo, my bros locked up,

1627
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 4: you know, shout to him. And she chimed in, YO, yeah,

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: telling him, I said, hold his head, you know, you

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: know stuff like that two three, you know, shout shout

1630
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 4: out to her.

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: She you know, she kind of was kind of just

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 4: that you know, that support that you know I didn't

1634
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 4: I didn't have at the time, you know what I mean.

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01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 4: She she just wanted She was like, so, so my

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01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 4: aunt was also on that same publication, and then she

1637
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: kind of like, look, I could give me a number,

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01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: you know, she said, well I can, you know, I

1639
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 4: could connect you out to it. And the next you know,

1640
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, one thing that another were talking. We started

1641
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 4: talking over the phone, you know that that was you know,

1642
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 4: we just hit it off.

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01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Bless her. So so let me ask you the biggie question.

1644
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: M hm. Did you ever think that hip hop would

1645
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: make it this far?

1646
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: Hell no, man, I didn't either, Hell no, Like I

1647
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 3: couldn't see that. Some days I think like that, and

1648
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: then some days I'd be like nah, yeah.

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01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like noah, no, I could see like like especially

1650
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 4: especially like days like like like like thinking about Question

1651
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 4: Groove and watching that stuff like you wouldn't. I would

1652
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 4: never think like yeah, like you know what I'm saying,

1653
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: Like it just seemed like something that was a was

1654
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 4: a a thing like graffiti, like you know what I mean.

1655
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: But and them spikes today sed to wear back in

1656
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: the days, boy, I'm glad I wasn't.

1657
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They was wild and that was

1658
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: it was damn they all doing. The Warriors.

1659
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: Tried to recreate it. And I remember following like the Cake,

1660
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 3: It was like.

1661
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 2: Following Parliament and that whole ride, and like there was

1662
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 2: they was following certain things and they they was taken

1663
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: from You gotta give.

1664
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: Them some credit.

1665
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: You're talking about the Warriors.

1666
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: No, like that era of hip hop they was taking

1667
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: like their style from like Parliament, from like George Clinton

1668
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: and them, oh yeah, and different things like they So

1669
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 2: they were parsing their style together.

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was wild.

1671
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: Who's the flyes barrel to you?

1672
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean.

1673
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 3: Like all barrows got got they fled to it. You

1674
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 3: could say Miami. I was sick Miami. Miami's a Barrow

1675
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: County county. We're not a county city, Dade County. That's

1676
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: a Dade county. I said, Miami part of the Miami right.

1677
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I would have to be biased because

1678
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 4: I lived in I lived in Harlem, you know what

1679
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 4: I mean, So I know what I know from Harlem.

1680
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1681
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna lit Queens, dude, goddamn it, give

1682
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 4: it up. Give it up, Queens dudes, give it up.

1683
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: Give it up.

1684
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: God damn.

1685
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 3: Right next to hall Over there.

1686
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: Not New Yorkers. But Harlem is a part of Manhattan though.

1687
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what's crazy.

1688
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a borough, but.

1689
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 3: But it is a borough by itself.

1690
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: But it's his own world.

1691
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: I know, it's its own world.

1692
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: But that's why they call it Harlem World. Let me

1693
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: give it you and I'm from Queens and I'm gonna

1694
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: give it up to the Hall now, like uh, it

1695
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: truly is its own world, and it's different parts of

1696
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: that world. It's Spanish Spanish. You can go to Dykeman

1697
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: and Dykman is baby Dominican Republic, the Dominican area, the Heights. Yeah, yeah,

1698
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: you got a lot of fact.

1699
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: I think Dykman is a part of the Heights.

1700
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's like what about Alphabet

1701
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: City is that way downtown?

1702
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: That's not Hall, that's not all, that's not Hallam.

1703
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but I will give Hall of this one

1704
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: may percent their own world. Like if you if you

1705
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: know all of New York City, if you don't to

1706
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: Halem Harlem.

1707
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 3: Is is a whole.

1708
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 2: It's a whole nother giant you know what's double And

1709
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: we recorded Drink Champs in the rough Rid. Yeah I

1710
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: remember We've crossed to go to the Bull and people

1711
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,440
Speaker 2: were stopping in the street.

1712
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 3: Drink the lovers.

1713
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 4: See that's what I mean, Like right, yeah, like but

1714
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Well, Halem Halem Hallm is

1715
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 4: like it's a certain type of style of fly, you

1716
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And Queens is a certain type

1717
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 4: of style of fly like you know what I mean,

1718
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 4: That's what I mean, Like they both fly borrow. You know,

1719
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: I'm different, just different ways, you know what I'm saying.

1720
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right, being from Harlem, right

1721
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 1: and having all these other stars come from Harlem, is

1722
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: that more pressure on you? Or is it at least

1723
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: pressure on you because you're like, man, I'm just gonna

1724
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: be a part of the great.

1725
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think it's kind of like

1726
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 4: a duality, Like it's kind of like it's it's like

1727
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 4: pressure in a way, but but then but then, like

1728
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 4: you at the end of the day, you're like, ship,

1729
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 4: I'm from here, you know what I mean.

1730
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: Like.

1731
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, you feel like you know, it's a psychological thing,

1732
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1733
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think it's

1734
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: just you know, it's just you know, it's kind of

1735
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: like you know you're going to do you or not,

1736
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1737
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: There's a lot of history, marlm Like Harlem is historic,

1738
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 3: And I just realized.

1739
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: Me Cam mace Emon, Doug and Tragedy. We got a

1740
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 1: freestyle called the Triboro Bridge, and I didn't DJ clue

1741
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: on album, And I didn't realize that triborough Bridge only

1742
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: goes from Queens to hallm right, Oh, triborough Bridge goes

1743
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: to the Bronx.

1744
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: I never knew that try Barrow, Okay, yeah you know.

1745
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was just because yeah yeah yeah, yeah

1746
01:23:59,400 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: it's true.

1747
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never knew that either.

1748
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1749
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: The Sock like the Socker. So what do you think.

1750
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 3: Jim Jones and Nas? I mean, I just think I

1751
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: just think.

1752
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 4: Again, like those are just two different kinds of things,

1753
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, Nas, Nas kind of

1754
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 4: you know, he kind of pushed hip hop forward, you

1755
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like if it wasn't if it

1756
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 4: wasn't for him, like our whole era was, like it

1757
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the same, Like you know what I mean,

1758
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 4: Like he kind of like opened the door for dudes

1759
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 4: that was on the corner, dudes that was you know

1760
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 4: what I'm saying kind of like.

1761
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: He mixed up from rocking intellectually boom now yeah.

1762
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the younger generation like that, you know how,

1763
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 4: you know how you're right, like you know how like

1764
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 4: like as we get older, like these kids are getting

1765
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 4: sharper and sharp.

1766
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: But like you know what I'm saying, Like he was

1767
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: and dumber and dumber though he had to save shot.

1768
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: He was an Arab sharper and sharper. Yeah, like you

1769
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1770
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 4: And then you listen to that first album he was

1771
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 4: only like what like seventeen, Like you hear this and

1772
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 4: it's like like I'm like, so, I'm like.

1773
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: He's still smarter than me back then.

1774
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 4: Like now, like you just like pulling from some some

1775
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 4: some type of you know, some acoustic record and something.

1776
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 4: But the dude like so so like when you you know,

1777
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 4: like that that whole thing, you know, I just was like,

1778
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 4: I can't see where bro is coming from.

1779
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1780
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: It's love, Yeah, it's love. But I just love hip hop, man.

1781
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 1: I love hip hop when when you can you can

1782
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: put yourself in the category and it actually means something

1783
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 1: like that ship is just to me, it's dope.

1784
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 4: To me, it's dumpe man. So what so what we're doing.

1785
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 4: We dropped the album what's My Man Name That Drink?

1786
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Shuzy bandoz band.

1787
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 3: We dropped. We're dropping the follow up.

1788
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 4: Well we actually we're actually dropping another album called Off

1789
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 4: the Count. That's that's kind of that he's producing. Nah,

1790
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 4: he didn't produce this one, but we're gonna, we're definitely

1791
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 4: gonna do it.

1792
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 3: Stay ready to.

1793
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 4: He's he's he has the projects out too, so he's

1794
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,799
Speaker 4: gonna you know, he's he does like he's a producer

1795
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: as well, so he has like things going on. So

1796
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 4: we got to kind of wait for that to you know,

1797
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 4: for time to permit, you know what I mean. But

1798
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 4: we got this album coming out now of course, called

1799
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: Off the count it's kind of just like the whole

1800
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 4: chronicle of me being locked up, like from when I

1801
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 4: got locked up, like for the countdown.

1802
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the way you know what I'm saying.

1803
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 4: So it's fifty so it's because fifteen songs and it's

1804
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 4: all in order, you know what I mean. When I

1805
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 4: turned myself in. Yeah, so that album, that's that's the

1806
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 4: next up. You know what I'm saying. We gotta and

1807
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 4: also when you turn yourself in all the way to

1808
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 4: the Yeah, the last book with that as well, That's

1809
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: what I was gonna say. The last we had a

1810
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 4: book called uh, Credible Memoirs of a Credible Messenger, and

1811
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna try to package it with the album. And

1812
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 4: stuff like that. We're just trying to figure out, you know,

1813
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 4: the technology side of that. I mean the shoes well, yeah,

1814
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: Simon shoester, something out of this episode that you get.

1815
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's what we you know, we're

1816
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 3: trying to put that together.

1817
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: Now, this is a question I probably should have asked earlier,

1818
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask now.

1819
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: Was there ever a time you regret it turning yourself in?

1820
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: Nah?

1821
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 3: You did?

1822
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 4: Nah? I mean he did say he when he was walking. Yeah,

1823
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 4: at that time, just out of the doing. Yeah, out

1824
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 4: of the fear of doing you knowing. I'm like, you know,

1825
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know, after I

1826
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 4: turned myself in, you know, it was just like you know,

1827
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 4: it was it was no point that that that I

1828
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 4: felt like it was. It was a waste of a

1829
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 4: waste of time, which is I know it sounds like

1830
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 4: weird though, you know you.

1831
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that point.

1832
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at that point it's like, you know, you

1833
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 4: got to ask yourself probably why I probably didn't feel

1834
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 4: any kind of ways.

1835
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, you know, you did what you tried

1836
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 3: to you know what you were you know, set out

1837
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 3: to do.

1838
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you know, you set things

1839
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 4: right for his family whoever, you know his family, you know,

1840
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 4: you're working on yourself, you know what I mean.

1841
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: So it was like, yeah, whatever you're believe in, whether

1842
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: it's like your soul needed to deal with some or

1843
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 2: your car moneeded to do, you was dealing with it.

1844
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was dealing with it. So I really didn't

1845
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 3: have any regrets.

1846
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 4: You know, certain certain things I would feel, you know,

1847
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 4: I would feel it though, you know what I'm saying,

1848
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 4: like damn, like damn if I wasn't locked up, you know,

1849
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 4: you know, you know, you know what I used to

1850
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: feel mostly when I when I when I was when

1851
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 4: I was locked up, that I would that I would

1852
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 4: like kind of not regret, but I would like be like,

1853
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 4: you know, kind of longing for like you know what

1854
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying. What Like when I would write stuff Rome

1855
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: and I would think it was crazy like you know

1856
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 4: what I mean, super duple and I'm like, damn, I

1857
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 4: can't instant who who the you gonna tell you?

1858
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: It was just like oh what.

1859
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: Like here's gonna take me? Take you here?

1860
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Bro?

1861
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere, you know what I'm saying. That

1862
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 4: was one of them, the one of them things. So

1863
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 4: what was your actual sentence fifteen in life?

1864
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: What you did thirteen? And steen?

1865
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did thirteen in like seven months.

1866
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, man, I gonna be honest with you because I

1867
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: don't know nobody else, and I'm gonna keep asking questions

1868
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: because i don't know nobody else in the situation in life.

1869
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm fucking forty seven years old. I've traveled the country

1870
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: seven times. Your story is like, I was so happy

1871
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: when we were, like, Yo, We're gonna have g depth

1872
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: because I like, I honestly, I really think you're one

1873
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: of like the most genuous people on earth. Like you

1874
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I really say I said

1875
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: that earlier and I said you're honorable. But it's even

1876
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: gets more into depth as I talk to you. You

1877
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying as we go through this, you know,

1878
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a therapist, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1879
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 1: this is how I do it.

1880
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 3: You ain't drinking, but usually I break it down.

1881
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: At this point You're like, nah, but listen, Noah, bro

1882
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 1: I never really heard of this. So and I'm asking

1883
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: you because this is honestly something I want to know.

1884
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: So even like doing the bid like you didn't regret it.

1885
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: You didn't say like, man, I made a mistake, Like

1886
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: you didn't say that to yourself.

1887
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 4: Nah, I can't say. I can't say that I didn't

1888
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 4: sometimes regret it because like you want to be out,

1889
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You want to be home,

1890
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 4: you have your humid stuff happens, like damn, I wish

1891
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 4: I was home for that, Like, oh, don't.

1892
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Worry about it. Your flowers are secure, don't worry about it.

1893
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: That's why they're in a case.

1894
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 3: So, but but I can't say.

1895
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I can't.

1896
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 4: I can't say that I felt like I made a

1897
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: mistake though, you know what I mean, Like I felt

1898
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 4: like you know, like it never felt like damn, I

1899
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 4: shouldn't have did that, like you know what I mean.

1900
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: I never I can't say I felt that way. Okay,

1901
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 1: now you can answer this whichever way you want. Did

1902
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: you notice these people family? Did you see they family?

1903
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: What made you say, yo, let me, let me just go?

1904
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: And you didn't even know you had? Yeah, I didn't know.

1905
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know I killed him And I didn't know

1906
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 3: when you went tolf.

1907
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 4: No, I didn't. I didn't know his family. I just

1908
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 4: it was something where you know when I experienced with

1909
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 4: my family one day, you know what I mean, Like

1910
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 4: that's what kind of made me really start thinking about it. Yeah,

1911
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 4: what happened like I said, yeah, with my family, Like

1912
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 4: I was sitting there. I think it was like a

1913
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 4: Christmas you know what I mean. It was just so beautiful,

1914
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, to be with my sons.

1915
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 4: You know, I had you know, you know, I felt

1916
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 4: like you know, a father, you know, I had bought

1917
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 4: them their gifts and you know what I'm saying, you know,

1918
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 4: so you know, just sitting there with them and made

1919
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: me realize like damn, what happened to bro?

1920
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Like did wonder if his family? Like did he have kids?

1921
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 3: Did he had to?

1922
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 4: I started thinking about person I didn't know them, you

1923
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. So

1924
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 4: I started thinking about a random argument or something. Yeah,

1925
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: it was just you know, you know, I just you know,

1926
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: one day, I always you know, as after it happened,

1927
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 4: and even as a young and I was like, you know,

1928
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 4: I started you know, I always was like fearful of

1929
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 4: what happened that night, you know what I mean. Like

1930
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 4: I would get locked up and I would think the

1931
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 4: cops knew, you know what I mean, Like it's just

1932
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 4: something related. I was definitely want to me you know

1933
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, you know, as I got older,

1934
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 4: like I started asking myself some serious questions, you know

1935
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 4: what I mean, damn, and and I feel I'm like,

1936
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 4: how else could you figure out what happened to this man?

1937
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So I said, you know what, Well,

1938
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: so you didn't know, you just you just thought you

1939
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: hit hit a dude? Yeah, okay, yeah yeah, actually got Peter. Yeah, nah,

1940
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,919
Speaker 1: so you found out at the precinct. At the precinct,

1941
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I never forget it. He like,

1942
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: he was like yo, when you say, he's like yeah,

1943
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 1: he had the prosecutor. Actually, the prosecutors at the precinct,

1944
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: they called him down to the immediately immediately. First first,

1945
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,839
Speaker 1: I've never heard so we looked up the files.

1946
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, not immediately, I'm sorry.

1947
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 4: Like what they did was like they kind of they

1948
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: looked into it and then once they seen that that

1949
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 4: it matched up, because they was like.

1950
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 3: Yo, what was you wearing that day? And I was like, yo,

1951
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 3: I had this on.

1952
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I remember that what I have like basically telling them, yeah,

1953
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: because this is unheard off, so they can think that

1954
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: you're like a psych patient.

1955
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to, they have to evaluate you. Yeah,

1956
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: well not.

1957
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 4: Actually actually at that point they were like taking me serious,

1958
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 4: like you know, you know, you know the railroad, the

1959
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 4: railroad system. At the at the end of the day,

1960
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 4: they're like, well, we got one whoever he is. Yeah,

1961
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 4: they want to cross out, like yeah, you know.

1962
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Yeah, They're like, okay, he could be bad.

1963
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 3: Out of hell.

1964
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Your first words you said to them, you said, I

1965
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: want to admit to a to a crime. Yeah, because

1966
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: he didn't know basically.

1967
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I came in, I was like, I was like,

1968
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, because I had came in before that. They

1969
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 4: turned you I heard that. Yeah, yeah, they turned you away.

1970
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah they turned me a way right, that's why fact.

1971
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,719
Speaker 3: They was like yo, all right, and that's he looked

1972
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 3: another But it's crazy you kept going right, So this

1973
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 3: is what happened, right, So you're a genuine broh yo.

1974
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 4: You know, in my mind, I'm trying to get this,

1975
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, I'm trying to.

1976
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 3: Get it behind it, get it behind me, right.

1977
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 4: So I had another album coming out, and I'm gonna

1978
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 4: put that ghetto legend album out, you know what I'm saying.

1979
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm like, this album's on bad Boy. No,

1980
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 4: this album was this, This was this was the album

1981
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 4: My job in twenty ten, like Famous Records to do

1982
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 4: the Jeffrey Collins, you know what I'm saying.

1983
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 3: So so still popping.

1984
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 4: We still do our thing. I look something shows, you

1985
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I finally get another album,

1986
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 4: a record deal album deal. Dude is like, yo, listen,

1987
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 4: we're gonna push it.

1988
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 1: Da da da.

1989
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I don't want to go through this

1990
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 4: with this album, you know, with the same stuff on

1991
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 4: my mind and all that, Like, you know what, I'm

1992
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 4: gonna get to the bottom of it, right. So I

1993
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 4: goes to it. I goes to the precinct. I said, yo,

1994
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 4: look I did such and such and such, and he

1995
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: like them. He looked at me like I was crazy.

1996
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: He was like, he said, really that's what you did.

1997
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 4: He said, so you did that. He said, you know what,

1998
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 4: take this card, call me. We're gonna give me your number. He'said,

1999
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 4: give me, this is a detective. This is a detective.

2000
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 4: He was like, all right, give me because you know,

2001
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 4: go to go to the priest and like they act

2002
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 4: at the desk like you know what I mean, before

2003
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 4: you go in the priest. And it was like another

2004
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 4: like desk right, so I'll go to them. He was

2005
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 4: like yo, he said, yo, so give me your number.

2006
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 4: I gave him my number, he gave me, he gave

2007
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 4: me his card. He was like, yo, I'm gonna call

2008
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 4: you if we find out anything in what you're talking about.

2009
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 3: He asked me a few questions, like you know, what day?

2010
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: When was it.

2011
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, it's in the winter, some like

2012
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 4: back in the nineties, ninety three, ninety two. He was like, okay,

2013
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 4: he said, we're gonna look into it. He was like like,

2014
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 4: I said, gave me the number. Boom, so I leave.

2015
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm like and then I said leave, you leave right.

2016
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 4: They let me leave boom. It's like beat it right.

2017
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 4: So I so they never caused me, and I lost

2018
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 4: the phone like maybe like a week late. I lost

2019
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 4: the phone and his call right. So now I'm like, damn,

2020
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 4: now I'm still not going to know what happened, you

2021
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I was like, I'm going

2022
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm going back to this one last time and if

2023
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 4: they don't say nothing this time, I was gonna leave

2024
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 4: it alone, like you know what I mean the second

2025
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 4: time second, you know what I mean? So I go,

2026
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 4: I go, And that was the time I'm like, I

2027
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 4: can't believe you know what I'm saying. You do it,

2028
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

2029
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: So but I'll go.

2030
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was like, Okay, this this is and

2031
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 4: it was gonna be it either way, like you know

2032
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 4: what I mean. It was gonna be like, this is

2033
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 4: gonna be the last time I'm coming here if they don't,

2034
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 4: you know, if they turned me away this time, this

2035
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 4: is it, you know. So But but you know, I

2036
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 4: went in and boy was like you know, the rest

2037
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 4: the same detective us now was some different different dudes.

2038
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 4: And you know, once I told him something, he kind

2039
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 4: of was like like, how would you know that? Like

2040
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo, I

2041
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 4: think I said. I think I said I was riding

2042
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 4: a bike and that's what that's what made him catch it.

2043
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 4: Get the instrant like he kind of they whatever, they

2044
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 4: like they knew it was a bike involved, and he

2045
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 4: was like he's just went in the back and he

2046
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 4: was like yo.

2047
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 3: He kept asking me stuff like yo, so like what

2048
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: was you wearing that night?

2049
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, I had a brown jacket on

2050
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: brown sleeve. She was like, so, I guess they already

2051
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 4: had the description of the dude, you know what I'm saying.

2052
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 4: They was like, yo, damn, you know what I mean.

2053
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 4: So then so then he so then he came back.

2054
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 4: It was like, Yo, come come on back here for

2055
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 4: a minute, you know. So then so then they spoke

2056
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 4: to me a little bit more, not covering you cut

2057
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 4: them in like the interrogation room, you know what I'm saying.

2058
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 4: And they like, Yo, we got the prosecutor coming to

2059
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: coming to see you, you know what I'm saying. So

2060
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 4: at this point I'm pretty sure they already knew, you

2061
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So they was like, Yo, we

2062
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 4: got the prosecutor coming to see you. He's gonna ask

2063
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 4: you some questions, you know what I'm saying. So they

2064
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 4: like they made me sit there for about a half hour.

2065
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 4: He pulls up and then he was just you know,

2066
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 4: you know, because this is the guy who takes took

2067
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 4: the case, so he knows all of it.

2068
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all of the details.

2069
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: So he's telling me, Yo, He's like, Yo, so so

2070
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 4: that night, who you're with like, you know, he started

2071
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 4: getting crazy, like really like, you know, investigating with you

2072
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 4: on camera?

2073
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on camera. You know, who are you with?

2074
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 2: What?

2075
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 4: Who are you wearing? What was you what time was it?

2076
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 4: You know, stuff like that. I'm answering him. I'm like, yo, yeah,

2077
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 4: I was by myself. I'm just out there.

2078
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: What was you doing?

2079
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Like I was trying to you know, I was. I

2080
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna rob him and he you know,

2081
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 4: you grab, you know, stuff like that, you know, And

2082
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 4: then he was like yo, So after after after I

2083
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 4: was and then I tried I kind of interrupted him.

2084
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, what happened to the guy?

2085
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And that he was he

2086
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 3: kept talking, you know what I mean, asking me this

2087
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 3: and that. Then he was like, yo, by the way,

2088
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 3: the god died.

2089
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 4: I was like, how did that hit you? At that point,

2090
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 4: I was like like so now all my life, I'm

2091
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 4: like a different kind of dude until I you know

2092
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I didn't think I killed nobody,

2093
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 4: you know.

2094
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

2095
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 3: And when they told me that, I was like damn,

2096
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 3: Like like damn, I'm like a murderer now, like you

2097
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it was like wow. It

2098
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 3: was like wow, you know what I mean.

2099
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 4: And then you know, then they just kind of like

2100
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 4: just like put me through the whole process after that,

2101
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They wasn't really they was

2102
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 4: like yo, yo, thanks for you know.

2103
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 3: They give you any special treatment because you actually came

2104
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 3: in on this.

2105
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they just you know, gave me, you know,

2106
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 4: showed a little like kind of like you know, respect

2107
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 4: for what I did.

2108
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean.

2109
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 4: It was like Yo, well man, I mean, thanks for

2110
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 4: coming in, man. But yeah, man, you know, so they started,

2111
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 4: you know, you know, the other officers, they were kind

2112
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 4: of just trying to you know, kind of be nice

2113
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 4: about it, you know what I mean, because they knew, Yeah,

2114
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 4: they knew it was about to go down. They was like, yo,

2115
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 4: look man, yo, you know you want to show the

2116
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 4: like right, you know, you.

2117
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 3: Know obviously I never got crazy or nothing like that.

2118
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 1: But to a certain extent, rappers we get a little

2119
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: bit of privilege, right when we when we at what

2120
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: point did they discover that this person who just admitted

2121
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: to a homicide is also g depth the rapper?

2122
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

2123
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you like when they figured it out.

2124
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I got when I got to

2125
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 4: the precinct, you know, I mean when I got you know,

2126
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: situated and went to the tombs and all of that, and.

2127
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 3: Then I called home. I got to call home.

2128
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 4: That's when, you know, my moms and all of them

2129
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 4: told me, yoh, you know, you're all the news and

2130
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 4: other all that stuff. So I don't know how how

2131
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 4: they translated it, you know what I mean. But I'm

2132
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 4: not sure if they knew.

2133
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: They might have knew.

2134
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: They didn't violate by having the cameras out, like you

2135
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: know how they always have the personal coff going to

2136
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: the car. They didn't do that now, so they respected that.

2137
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't

2138
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 4: know if they knew or not at that point. I

2139
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 4: don't know, you know what I'm saying. They might have,

2140
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 4: but they it was like late. They just took me

2141
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 4: in the car, cuffed me, you know what I mean,

2142
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 4: took me downtown, you know what I mean.

2143
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: And condolences to the family of that person.

2144
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man, his his his his his brother

2145
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 3: in law. You know, came to some of the some

2146
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 3: of the proceedings, you know, what I mean.

2147
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:10,560
Speaker 1: I was that.

2148
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know, I was just there

2149
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 3: doing what I was doing, you know what I mean.

2150
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 4: He you know, he he felt like, you know, I

2151
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 4: kind of like opened up an old wound kind of

2152
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 4: so to speak, like.

2153
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, I mean like basically, he want

2154
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 3: he didn't want you to.

2155
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, he should have just I mean

2156
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 4: he said it in the papers, like you know, he

2157
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 4: was like, yo, he should have just left it alone.

2158
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, if you think about it,

2159
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: it is old wounds being open up, you know what

2160
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 2: I mean, It is how you felt that definitely how

2161
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: he felt.

2162
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, the family, he was kind of

2163
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 4: over it, you know, like you know what I'm saying,

2164
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 4: and I was, you know, so fuck him. He was

2165
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 4: wilding on me, like you know what he's saying that

2166
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 4: about Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. Excuse my language,

2167
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm being frank to say something and

2168
01:42:58,680 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 4: it's a serious situation.

2169
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2170
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 3: So you know I get it though, you know, at

2171
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you.

2172
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: Know, man, you yo, I salute you man, like I

2173
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,560
Speaker 1: always like, you know, her bits and pieces of the

2174
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 1: story and I kind of like, you know, maybe didn't

2175
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: even want to ask these questions on here, like just

2176
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: on a personal level, Like you know what I'm saying,

2177
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: because like what you did is real, Like I've never

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01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: heard of nothing like this. I don't think nobody's ever

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01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 1: done what you've done. And like I see you like

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Speaker 1: a man's man, Like I'll look at you like a

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Speaker 1: man's man, you know what I'm saying, Like and like

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Speaker 1: down to like even your music, like I'm trying to

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01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: hear the bitterness in your music. I'm trying to hear

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01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: like and I'm like then like like you actually went

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01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: through this in a real way, like and it's crazy

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01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: because a lot of people can't relate to that shit.

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: And that's to be that why I ask you the

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01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: question like two or three times in a different way.

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01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: It's because I want the people to see how genuine

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01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: Like I kind of know my audience, you know what

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01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I know how I want the people

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01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: to see how genuine you are. And that's that's and look,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, like, man, that's amazing story.

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Speaker 4: We can like appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The families you know forever, you know, like you never

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01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 2: could make up for what has happened to that family.

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01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 2: But you have done what you can to a tone

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Speaker 2: for for what you've done. And you did your time,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And all you could do

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01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,919
Speaker 2: is be the better human being that you're trying.

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Speaker 4: To be right now. So yeah, that's how I feel

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Speaker 4: about it. You know at this point, you know, so.

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Speaker 3: You didn't see all out. You didn't you had time served.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean you had good behavior

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Speaker 1: because you said you did thirteen out of fifteen to life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 3: No, I wound up getting clemency. Okay, what is that for?

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01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: People who gave you clemency?

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Speaker 4: Like it was a governor governor hog, yeah, governor whole

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Speaker 4: who gave me a credit uh lemency.

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Speaker 3: She gave me.

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Speaker 4: She gave me an executive clemency. It wasn't really to like,

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Speaker 4: because I don't think they can give you clemency if

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01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 4: you have a like a murder, They gotta they gotta

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01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 4: kind of just let you go to the parole board early.

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01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 4: So what they did, yeah, yeah, so they just basically

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01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 4: commuted my sentence at thirteen at thirteen years and then

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 4: I went to the board and the board let me go, wow, yeah,

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01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 4: oh she still had to see the board. Yeah, I

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01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 4: still had to see the board. They they gave me clemency.

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01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 4: Came came to my my unit. Y'all, the supervisor want

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01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 4: to see you. I go down and talk to us.

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01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 4: She give me to you know, no, she didn't give

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Speaker 4: me a certificate then, but she told me everything.

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know they governor granted you clemency. She read,

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Speaker 4: she read the certificate she did. She said, you know

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01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 4: you've been here by you know, granted you know what

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01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 4: I mean. I'm like, wow, you know, she was like

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 4: she was real nice about it. And and then like

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01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, so when I go home,

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01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 4: I say, at this point, you know what I mean?

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01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 3: She like, nah, what it is?

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01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta, you gotta go to parole. You

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01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 4: know we're gonna you know, parole is gonna decide whether

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01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,879
Speaker 4: you're going home. So what is exactly his clemency?

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01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: What is that?

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01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 3: It's just basically like it's a part. It's a part

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01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 3: in it's.

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Speaker 4: Kind of like a uh kind of like just because

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01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 4: because they don't they don't just like wipe wipe your

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01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 4: record clean a party and they'll wipe your record clean.

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01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, clemency Like they kind

2244
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 4: of just let you out of jail.

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01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of like a like you did your time,

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01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna let you. Yeah, like did you reach out to.

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01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: The governor or the government just heard about your case

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01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: and see you stepped it up, so they wanted to

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01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 4: Nah.

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Speaker 3: It was actually it was weird.

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01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 4: I came I'm not weird, but it was you know,

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01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 4: praise and creat It was one of them things I came.

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 4: I came in from you know, regular jailing, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and I going I look on the kiosk,

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Speaker 4: you know, and jo they got and I get an

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 4: email from a lawyer, Uh, Stephen Steven Zeppman.

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01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 3: My my clemency lawyer.

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01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 4: Yo. Look we we uh you know my name is

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01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 4: Steven Zepman. Did the introduction, you know what I'm saying.

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01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 4: You know, I run a clemency uh, a clemency group

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01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 4: and you know a bunch of kids from you know

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01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 4: n YU or one of the colleges.

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Speaker 3: You know, we get people out of jail. Your case

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01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 3: was brought to my attention by the by the d A.

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01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 3: The actual d A, d same Dame d A. The

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01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:36,719
Speaker 3: d A and the judge.

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01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, your your case was brought to

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01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 4: my attention by the d A and the judge and

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01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 4: they suggest that we help you get out.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, So when I finally got to

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01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 4: talk to him, he was like yeah.

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Speaker 3: The d A was like yo, he he thought they

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01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 3: gave you a little bit.

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01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 4: Too much time. And and the judge he said, yo,

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01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 4: we didn't want to give him that time. We had

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01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 4: to give him that time. So then they was like yo,

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01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 4: you know then they were my case. From that, you

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01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. From there, I just did. I went,

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Speaker 4: I followed, you know, I went through you know, all

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01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 4: the emotions. You know, I broke my personal statement, you

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01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 4: know all of that stuff, got the letters, you know,

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01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 4: letters of intent from people and stuff like not let

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Speaker 4: us intent, I forgot what you call it, you know,

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01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 4: just character statements and stuff like that, and then we

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Speaker 4: just put it in.

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Speaker 3: Well man, well I'm taking a shot. I'm sure takes

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01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 3: one of the strongs people. I know, brother, you could

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01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 3: have did it too. An experience was would it moved you?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: Man? I don't know. If I got that spirit, I

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01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: must to be honest on my but whoa, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your honesty.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's all good.

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01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: Like you know, first off, I don't have experience of

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01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: talking about things like this, and like again, we're in

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01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the same industry, so I get to hear bits and pieces,

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01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: and I never really unders stood the whole story, like

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01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: how you understand how you usually explained it. And I

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01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: know the industry is gonna eat this up as well.

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01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like wow, because I've searched you all

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01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: for the two weeks and I didn't see you explain

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01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 1: this like the way you just explained this what I'm said,

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01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: And I was scared to kind of ask because you know,

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01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: there's two things that we get when we interview people.

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01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: There's always somebody to say, hey, don't ask this right,

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01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: and then we say, we don't want this, motherfuckers, tell them,

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01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: tell them, get the funk away.

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Speaker 3: If I can't ask you something, I don't, I don't

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 3: want to sensitive regard.

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Speaker 1: Yours is different. Yours was carved out, was like him.

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01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 1: It's a sensitive thing. And then there's another thing, is

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01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: I bet on some people's on time I lost the

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Speaker 1: CU today. I lost.

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01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 3: I bet on you, I bet on you.

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01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, you're gonna be here one time, and

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01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 4: I lost.

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Speaker 1: I lost.

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Speaker 4: I'm on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So you gave your time. You got to

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Speaker 1: be on time.

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Speaker 3: Man, Thank you so much, White me, thank you, thank

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Speaker 3: you for coming coming.

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 1: Listen, man, I promise you bro like one. I'm gonna

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01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: reiterate what us said earlier. We went through your album. Yo,

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01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: your ship is fucking fire. I can't believe you. I

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01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 1: can't believe, like you still got it, Like I can't

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01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: believe and we gotta you. You have a song on

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01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: there that escort you still got it right?

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01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. We have a segment on our ship that

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01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: we were doing. Now let me see if you still

2336
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 1: got it. And it's about like we're gonna do the

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01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: freestyle segment like how rap city.

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 3: So it's crazy that you that me and you's on

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01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 3: the same level.

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Speaker 1: But you man, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you telling our story. I really appreciate your eyes,

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: really please your genuine witness, and I really appreciate your honks.

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