1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: back with you, buck Uh. Not a lot of sleep 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: last night, man Uh. Got out of the stadium a 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: little bit late. It was a little late kickoff of 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: a lightning delay. But it was a fun game. Chargers 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Raiders was a fun one. Want to hit on that 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: today as well as some some interesting topics, to say 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: the least, around the league. How you doing, man, Man, 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm good. There's a lot of good stuff going on. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: The Monday night game with fantastic I think the world 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: having an opportunity to see the Chargers. I think that 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: was out of me. I think what might have started 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: as what was an anticipated coronation of the Las Vegas 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Raiders turned out to be an appreciation for what the 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Charges are doing, their quarterback and even their young hit coach. Yeah, 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that here in just a second. Um, 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna touch on what's going on down there in Jacksonville. 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: When your owner issues a statement four weeks into the season, 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of admonishing your head coach who's in his first year. 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Not a great set up there. We're gonna touch on that. 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk kind of bigger picture looking at 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: some of these teams, what we think of I'm kind 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: of not a power ranking, but kind of who we 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: think are the operational on teams UH in each conference, 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: as well as some of the topics we want to 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: touch on as we get through this thing. But I 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: want to start off with last night. Just let me 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: get to you first. Here open the floor for your 30 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway. The charges are good. The charges are really good. 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: They're really good on both sides of the ball. And 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: as this team continues to put it together, I can 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: see this team making a run at the super Bowl. 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: And I know, like a lot of times we throw 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: out teams that can win it in those things, but 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of ingredients that you 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: have to have to be a super Bowl team. One, 38 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: you gotta have an elite quarterback. They have an elite quarterback, 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: and justin r he's playing an elite level. He's playing 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: at m VP level, whatever level you want to put that. 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: He has to surpass to the velvet ropes. He's in 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that elite club. They have a dominant defense, and I 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: think at a time where we talk about defense maybe 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of losing some of the importance. Their dominant stems 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: from the fact that they can rush the quarterback and 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: they can create turnover opportunities either through the complexity of 47 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: their coverages and what they're doing, but they can knock 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback down and they can confuse the quarterback. That 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: gives you a chance. And then they have enough playmakers 50 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: on offense to put points on the board. While they 51 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: may not have a traditional conventional running game, they can 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: put points on the board, whether it's uh you play 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: makers on the outside, Keenan and Mike Austin Eckler coming 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. They have a way of generating 55 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: points and that is enough to get it done. Yeah, 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: a couple of different things from me here. Um, they 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: were more they were more physical team along the line 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the Raiders. Um that that definitely stood out. Um, 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: if I have told you before the game, the Chargers 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have over huntred yards and penalties, that that 61 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Keenan Allen would combine for uh forty 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: seven yards receiving, and I just said, man, they got Man, 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: they gotta have a tough night they won buy two touchdowns, 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: and truthfully, it could have been much worse than that. 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: So that to me showed we always talk about can 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: you can you win multiple style of games and multiple 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: style of fights? What type of game do you find 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: yourself in? Well, the Charges came into this one with 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: their number one and number two wide receivers who didn't 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: have big days. Keenan uncharacteristically had a couple of drops. 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: You don't ever see that. But what is he? What 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: do they do? They just he goes out there and 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: finds Jared Cook, He finds Austin Ekeler, he finds Parum, 74 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: he finds Anderson. Like that to me is a sign 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: of a great quarterback. You can talk about the and 76 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: you've said it numerous times when you have good veteran 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: receivers that can really help develop a young quarterback. And 78 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: then you can flip it though, Buck once you have 79 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a great quarterback, now he can develop everybody else. And 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was on display in that game against 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders. It absolutely was on display. And another analogy 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: we used, uh, picking a quarterback is like picking the 83 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: best player on the pick up basketball team. If you 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: get that one piece, it doesn't matter the four guys 85 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: that you have on the floor with him, he will 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: make him right. And I look at Justin Herbert, it's 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: not a coincidence that he was a great high school 88 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: basketball player. He makes the other guys right. I think 89 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: you could put him on the floor with whoever and 90 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: he'll figure out a way to get it done. What 91 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: you described was Justin Herbert figuring out, like my girl 92 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: over here can't shoot tonight, he's a little off. Okay, 93 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: we're gon pick and roll with you tonight. And he 94 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: goes pick and roll with the tight ends. The tight 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: ends end up being big players, particularly done in the 96 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: red zone. Oh, Austin Neckler, you can get out and run. 97 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna let you have some plays that 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: will rot that he delivered beautiful die well. The safety 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: was coming too, So it's like you can't a lot 100 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: of times on a we're out you can put a 101 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: ton of air under it. And he had to get 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: a layer it like he had to just get it 103 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: up and down. Um, he couldn't just you know, put 104 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: it way up in the air. It's a beautiful touch, 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: throw outstanding. It was awesome. It was terrific. Um, I 106 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: think it's one of the things that, um, they need 107 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: to continue to do, expand the playbooks to incorporate more pieces, 108 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: because then what we'll happen is Kennan, Allen and Mike 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: will usually go away for a little bit. But then 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: what happens You throw to other guys enough then they 111 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: re emerge and become players. That is that's a tough combination. 112 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: That's something that you always want to see. And I 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: think the Chargers in terms of how you build a 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: modern defense, um, I think this is kind of how 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: you do it. Buck. First of all, Limball Joseph can 116 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: still play. He's been around the league a long time, 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: but he is massive and and he can control the 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: line Instagram and he can take up two gaps. He's 119 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: just a big, strong, powerful dude. So if you're gonna 120 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: play with light boxes, um, he's a big factor and 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: being able to do that effectively. So you've got one 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: of those chess pieces again, I kind of look at 123 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: these always chess pieces on the board. So you've got 124 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: that big, massive power guy in the middle of your defense. 125 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Then you've got an elite, elite edge rusher and Joey 126 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Bosa who after he toyed with Leatherwood for a little while. 127 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: They didn't send one tight end over there, they sent 128 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: to They started just playing in twelve personnel and would 129 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: send both tight ends over there, so at least they 130 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: could widen Joey out to create more distance between him 131 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: and the quarterback. Um. So you've got that that part 132 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: of it you've mentioned, you know, talk about Derwin James. 133 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Is it just a unique chess piece. He talked to 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: coach Staley after the game. He said, there one plays 135 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: five different positions for us like that is from game 136 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: in and game out and from quarter to quarter and 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: adjustments within the game that is, that's there's a unicorn 138 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: man to be able to do all that stuff. So 139 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: you've got that piece. Then you look outside at corner 140 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Sante Samuels has got the ball skills to be able 141 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: to make plays on the ball. Was a terrible p 142 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I call on him, by the way, in that game. 143 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: On the other side, you've got Michael Davis whose heightweight speeds, 144 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: big athletic range e corner um. So you've got Adderley 145 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: who has been a little bit inconsistent, a little bit 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: up and down, but he's got range from from the 147 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: middle of the field. But to me, this is this 148 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: is the aspect of this defense that's different from years past. 149 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Not only is the scheme different, but I saw it 150 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: in that game. Denzel Perriman is a good player. He's 151 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: been a good player in the league for a long time. 152 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Played for the Chargers, was kind of a stalwart of 153 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: that defense. He's just not fast buck And so when 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: you saw him taken off the field for the Chargers 155 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: and you see Tranquill insert in there, who could fly. 156 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: No Kenneth Murray in this game. But Kaiser White is 157 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: a former safety. Your Tranquill was low four five guy. 158 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Both those guys they just suck up. They suck up 159 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: space and then you flip it over and I'm like, 160 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: I see Pairman playing with the Chargers and they're just 161 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: going after him. In the passing game, they shot Keenan 162 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: dropped the deep over on him too, which would have 163 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: been a huge play. But that to me is like, okay, 164 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: speed at linebacker. They've checked like all the boxes for 165 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: a modern defense to go along with Staley, who's brilliant 166 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: with how he sets this thing up. But they have 167 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: the pieces in place. It's funny that you mentioned speed, 168 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: right because as the NFL has shifted from being when 169 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: we when I first sent into the league, I think 170 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: at the same time you entered the league, UH as 171 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: a scout, like the two thousand, it was all about 172 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the running game and the running backs and downhill power, 173 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: big physical line and moving people off the ball. It 174 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: is now changed to a passing league. Lighter, faster, fleet guy, 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: smaller running backs, not really committed to grind ding it out. 176 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: You now have to counter those type teams with speed 177 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: at every level. And it reminds me of the conversations 178 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: that we've had with Matt Ruling others about how you 179 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: build an elite defense. You um kind of graduate people 180 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: down safety's become linebackers. Linebackers become uh ed rushers and players, 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: and you're seeing getting all of that speed and to 182 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: feel much like you would in the Big twelve. Well, 183 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: now the NFL is like that because we're seeing teams 184 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: concede rushing yards. Man, you can have all the rushing 185 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: yards that you want, because one, you can't score quickly 186 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: that way, and it's very difficult for you to put 187 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: points on the board. Just as a running team. The 188 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: explosive players come off play action. UH the ball flying 189 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: over your head, those things, and the Chargers are equipped 190 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: to play that style. The key will be, and I 191 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: think everyone we want to see, how do they play 192 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: against a team that is committed to I'm gonna I'm 193 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: gonna mash you or don't you think about it. The 194 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: NFL doesn't have that many teams that play that way, 195 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: and so they may they may, they may never face 196 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: or encounter a team like that. The trick would be, 197 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: what does Brandon staien dead defense do against a team 198 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: like a Baltimore We already saw the Cowboys. Cowboys kind 199 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: of rented that game. They play the Browns this week, book, 200 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: so that will be That would be the trick. How 201 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: does he match up against the team that is committed 202 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: to running the football and saying going into the game, 203 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: we will get thirty five plus attempts, so we will 204 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: see if you can you can with all those body blows. Yeah, 205 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna And we'll get to these elite 206 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: teams here in a minute, but the Browns definitely, I think, 207 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, I believe you're in that category. Um, just 208 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of wrap up the Chargers defense. Every team they've 209 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: played this year has been held to their season low 210 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: point total against this group and some of them significantly. 211 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: The Cowboys average and thirty five point three. They only 212 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: got twenty against the Chargers. Um, when you look at 213 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City and the other three games average thirty six 214 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: point seven against the Chargers twenty four, Raiders average and 215 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: thirty and the other three games they get fourteen last night. 216 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: So uh, they they've just been able to keep people 217 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: below the regular output. And that's the job. You can 218 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: look at yards and all that stuff, but their their 219 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: job is to limit points and that's what they've done 220 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: a really good job of doing. Um. From the Raiders standpoint, 221 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, look, they're there are two starting guards have 222 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: been out for a while. Um, Leatherwood is kind of 223 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: what we thought coming out, and I know we talked 224 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: about it a lot. There's a chance he's gonna and 225 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't, but there's chance he can 226 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: develop into a good player down the line. He's not 227 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: there yet. Um. The you know, the penalties continue to 228 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: pile up for him. He got a he got away 229 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: with a hold on Bosta late in that game too, 230 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: that did not get called. But um, he was very 231 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: vocal about that. You got a fifteen on that. I 232 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: don't blame him, I said, you got He was very 233 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: vocal about that. So, um, you know that's that's that's 234 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: an offensive line that's gonna have issues and they can't 235 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: if they can't dominate and get going physically with the 236 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: running game, they've chucked it all over the place. But 237 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: when you play teams with with big time defensive fronts 238 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and you you can't run it more, they're gonna have 239 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: trouble with that offensive line. Okay, he look man and 240 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: and and see. It's funny when we say this, but uh, 241 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Derek car certainly during the first quarter the season was 242 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: playing at the m v P level. The numbers justified 243 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: that the numbers warranted him being in that discussion. But 244 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: when you look at the Raiders, the Raiders are a 245 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: run first team. The run sets up everything that they 246 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: want to do. They are a running ball, control, possession offense, 247 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: and when they're unable to get the game in a 248 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: certain way, it's very very hard for them to win 249 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: games because the running game and the way that they 250 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: play on offense protects their defense and all of that. 251 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: And when they're not able to control the game with 252 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: their offense, and the defenses on the field for too 253 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: many snaps. Eventually the damn breaks in a way they 254 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: go and I think that's what you saw in the 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: game because the offense couldn't stay on the field. I 256 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: want to say it's the first time that John Gruten's 257 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: offense had ever been held without a first down on 258 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: the first fourth series of a game or something like 259 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: like one yard at the end of the first quarter 260 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: or something like that. And without that, I mean the 261 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: Charges had the ball, and the Charges had the ball. 262 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: They have too many weapons, too much firepowers, too hard 263 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: to slow them down. And when you give the Charges 264 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: a chance to play from a head man, good night. 265 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: Because with the pass rushers and with playmakers they can 266 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: dictate the terms on defense, they make it very very 267 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: hard because they also when they had to leave, they 268 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: forced you to get out of a batmance game plan. 269 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: If that's how you want to play. Yeah, Darren Waller 270 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: still made some big plays in that game. Their run 271 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: game has not you know, they've been winning games, but 272 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: not in that traditional Grouten formula you've talked about. They 273 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: haven't been able to run it as well. Neither one 274 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: of those teams came into this game having much success 275 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: on the ground, and the Charges go out there and 276 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: ran it, ran it really well with thoughts of network. 277 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: The Raiders, uh, not so much. That was a big 278 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: difference in that game. But I want to get to 279 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: what we've seen around the a f C and the 280 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: NFC UM in terms of some of these upper echelalan teams. 281 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that right after this, all right, Buck, 282 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I want to get into these uh uprational Team's elite teams. 283 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And I think this next weekend and the a f 284 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: C is gonna be telling because we've got we've got 285 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Bills and Chiefs, and as we mentioned a little bit earlier, 286 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: we've got Browns and Chargers facing off. When you look 287 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: around the a f C, I think you'd be hard 288 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: pressed to find anybody else You're putt in that top 289 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: four group. Uh you know my missing a team in there? 290 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: You think that belongs with those four teams? I know 291 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders are are three and one. You know the 292 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Bengals are sitting there at three and one, The Ravens 293 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: are three and one. That division has got three three 294 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: and one teams. Um, you've got the Broncos also at 295 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: three and one. But I think we're a little bit 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: skeptical there. Um, but I guess you put the Ravens 297 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: in there and making a big five. I don't. I 298 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: don't know, but those to me are the best teams. 299 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are the only team that we 300 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: can put in that conversation. And the reason why I 301 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: put the Ravens in the conversation is, Um, they're running game, 302 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson gives them a chance versus anybody because 303 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: of the random nature of how that that offense, particularly 304 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: running game can explode olde because it's different. Uh, that 305 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: gives them a chance if you're not on your p's 306 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: and ques. When it comes to defending the run. You 307 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: can see the Baltimore Ravens run for two hund yards 308 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: and that is a problem. So they deserve to be there, 309 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: even though they have some deficiencies that you still want 310 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: to see. Yes, I know I'm gonna say this with 311 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the team coming off a three yard 312 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: passing game, but that's the Achille Hill Achilles hell. We 313 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: need to see them do that in a playoff game 314 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: if needed. So that's the thing. But now those other 315 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: teams that you're talking about the Chiefs are gonna be there, 316 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: even though I don't think they're playing great football. Yeah, 317 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: they're two and two. I mean I said, I know 318 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: people are probably listening to this, going, how do you 319 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: have them? They're two and two? There's other three. Look, 320 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna they're gonna be They're gonna be there. 321 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: They're cann be there. There's They're so talented that you're 322 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to knock them off. They're 323 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: not playing great. Uh, they're not playing great on um. Look, 324 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: their defense is predicated on just creating a disruption and 325 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: a few theyve gotta get Frank Clark back. Yeah, so 326 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: so that and then they gotta figure out what they're 327 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: going they're going to do the running back closet with 328 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: large put the ball on the surf a little bit. 329 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: They're not I feel like they're leaving meat on the 330 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: bone when it comes to what they're getting from the 331 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: running game. So they gotta figure out how to kind 332 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: of take advantage of some of the tactics that teams 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: are using against them. Um, and if they're able to 334 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: do that, then it becomes a different due. So here's 335 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: my question. Let's let's uh but we can put the 336 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Ravens in this discussion as well. So if we if 337 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: we got Bills, Browns, Chargers, Chiefs, Ravens. Right, here's my 338 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: challenge for the Browns, and I think we would agree 339 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: if you just stacked the rosters up, the Browns might 340 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: be that they might be at the top of the list, 341 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: just in terms of the depth of talent that they 342 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: have really really deep talented team. The Bills are gonna 343 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: bring Josh Allen to that dance. The Chargers are gonna 344 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: bring Justin Herbert, The Chiefs are gonna bring Patrick Mahomes, 345 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: The Ravens are gonna bring Lamar Jackson. The Browns are 346 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: bringing Baker Mayfield. They have the worst quarterback of the 347 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: of the quintet, which doesn't mean you can't come out 348 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: of it, but everybody else has to be better. DJ 349 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Like we we talked about it and we use so 350 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: much um. Trucks and trailers. Yeah, those are those are 351 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Those are four trucks, four trucks, four trucks and one trailer. 352 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: And for the Browns to be able to do it, 353 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna need everybody to be at a at a 354 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: high level around him to do it. The running game 355 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: is going to have to be supurban clicking. The defense 356 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: is playing like that. I think the number two in 357 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: total defense right now. The defense is playing out of sight. 358 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean even beyond I think what they can imagine 359 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: in the dog pound. But it's going to come down 360 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: to and we we can talk at it until blew 361 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: in the face. The playoffs and the tournament decide about 362 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting in is all the other stuff. You gotta 363 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: have the auxiliary pieces and all of that other stuff. 364 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, the quarterbacks typically drive who moves 365 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: on because in the playoffs, you need the quarterback to 366 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: make at a minimum four or five plays. And sometimes 367 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: those plays are a you gotta make the big plays 368 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, but other times of those plays are a 369 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: third and seven. I need you to make a play, 370 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: and whether that is making a play with your arm, 371 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: whether that's making it with your legs, you have to 372 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: be able to make a play. And if you're unable 373 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: to make a play at the quarterback position, it's just 374 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: really really hard on the team to pick you up. 375 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: And so yeah, the Cleveland Browns, everything is on number 376 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: six and this will not only be important for their 377 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: title chances, this will give the front office and opportunity 378 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: to see how far can we go with number six, 379 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: because that's gonna be the conversation. I'm not saying that, 380 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: oh you you draft his replacement or anything like that, 381 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: but it gives you an idea of what is I 382 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: seiling with him, because then that that impacts how you 383 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: pay him, because if you pay him what you're paying 384 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, uh Patrick Mahomes what you will pay Lamar Jackson, well, 385 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: now you don't have the ability to do that other 386 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: stuff that he might need. So I think it gives 387 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: you an opportunity to really understand where he needs. Come 388 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: in at the conversation level so you can make um 389 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: the team a title team. Yeah you know, and look 390 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: look the uh the Bengals are three and one. I 391 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: think we would both we both put Joe Burrow in 392 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: the truck category. Uh. He's different than Baker to me. 393 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: He's somebody that he's gonna pull. He can pull that team. 394 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: But they just don't have all the pieces right now 395 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: in this point of their rebuild. Their three and one. 396 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: Hats off to them, and I think they have a 397 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: chance to compete for a playoff spot. UM, but they're 398 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: they're they're still work to be done there with that 399 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: roster before they're up there. It just begs the question though, 400 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: as we're looking at this a FC you look around 401 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: and you say, you're the Miami Dolphins. Um, he's the guy. 402 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I know he's hurt, but can we bring that guy 403 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: to to this group to fight these guys? And then 404 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: and then you kind of look at it and you 405 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: see Pittsburgh. They're kind of in a weird spot that 406 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: that at this point in time, Ben can't compete with 407 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: those with those forward j When you look, the divide 408 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: is going to get wider. The gap between the haves 409 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: and the have nuts are going to get wider because 410 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: we're about to have this thing with the quarterbacks, right 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks that you just listed that we talked about, 412 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: the big five, I want to say, all those guys 413 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: are are are really young. All those guys are young, 414 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: and they they have staying power. They're gonna be there 415 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: for a while. So if you're a team without one 416 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: of those five stars at quarterback, it's gonna be hard. 417 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna hard for you to win in the a 418 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: f C because you have to We always talk about 419 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: you have to build your team to beat the teams 420 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: that you know you're gonna face. Well, right now, I 421 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: have to look at the horizon in the a f C. 422 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: And I have to know that I have to have 423 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: I need to have a quarterback on my team that 424 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: if we get in a shootout with Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, 425 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, um Justin Herbert, that we can go. And 426 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: if our quarterback isn't on that same plane, I'm not 427 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: saying that he has to be as good as but 428 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: he has to be close enough, we gotta look for 429 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: an upgrade. Yeah, and I know I'll cut off the 430 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Steeler fans right now. Well, we beat the Buffalo Bills 431 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, I'm not talking about week one. I'm 432 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: talking about when you get into I'm talking about when 433 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: you get in the tournament and everything is faster and 434 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: windows closed. We always talk about, you know, when you 435 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: get in the postseason, it's almost there's more emphasis in 436 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: baseball and power pitching. Right you gotta be able to 437 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: strike people out. You know, if you if you pitch 438 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: the contact in the regular season, Okay, you win a 439 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of games. Have a Louis are you're getting the postseason? 440 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: You can't punch people out, they're gonna grind out at 441 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: bats and then you're gonna give up a boatload of 442 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: runs if you can't punch people out. Same way. In 443 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, we've talked about Drew Brees, who 444 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: has had unbelievable career and was, you know, phenomenal in 445 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: the regular season. The postseason was good. He wasn't quite 446 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the same player because everything shrinks, and so he's not 447 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: a power not a power guy. Um, But just you know, 448 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady can take his game to another planet because 449 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, and you play an inclement 450 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: weather in the field shrinks and everybody's fast her and 451 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: dialed in and intense, so he can squeeze balls in. 452 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: That's that's it matters. You gotta be able to have 453 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of that with you. And so when 454 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: I look at the big, powerful, strong, athletic guys, we've 455 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: gotten that conference and you don't have one of those, 456 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: probably better be looking for one. That brings me to 457 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: something that we didn't talk about talk discussing. But I'm 458 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna do this because now that you talk about the 459 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: Big four, when it comes to the quarterbacks in the 460 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: A F C. There's this expected this hanging out there 461 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: with an astrac buy his name and Deshaun Watson. Okay, 462 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: so I think now and I've taken to Houston Texans 463 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: the task for like A not playing him, not doing whatever. However, 464 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: I think this is going to actually work in their 465 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: favor because the bargaining chips it's incredibly valuable. He is 466 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks that can change right, he can 467 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: change the equation if we clean up all the olfit. 468 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: We're going to assume that we can summon up up 469 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: all the off the field to make him acceptable to 470 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: bring it to the organization on the field in between 471 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: the lines. He is one of those guys that can 472 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: narrowly gap in the a f C. And so one 473 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: of the teams that we've talked about, the Miami Dolphins, 474 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: who has been rumored to be in that conversation for 475 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson, I think it's becoming increasingly clear for them, 476 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: particularly their owner, we might have to make this move 477 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: because we're we're on the verge of being left behind 478 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: whatever this season is or whatever, but just in general 479 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: from a talent perspective at quarterback, we might be left 480 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: behind if we don't have that do And I'm gonna 481 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: say this, and I'm gonna say this, even though Mac 482 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: Jones has played really, really well, the Patriots are going 483 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: to have to look at how they go about doing 484 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: business and wonder can they ever get back in the mix. 485 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Not because of Mac Jones, but can they surround him 486 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: with enough MHM to get him Because even in the game, 487 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: the game emotionally on Sunday Night against the Buccaneers, that 488 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: is the best of Patriots might play all year because 489 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: of the emotional thing or whatever everything they had and 490 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: how they drew from it into focus that Bill Belichick had. 491 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: But DJ, do they have enough weaponry to be able 492 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: to do it? I don't think so at this point 493 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: they got I mean, that's the thing, And I say, 494 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, Mac didn't push the ball down the field. 495 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: There's no explosive plays and that's not you know, that's 496 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: not just on him. At Alabama he had Davonte Smith 497 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: and Jalen Wattle. He pushed the ball down the field. 498 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: He showed that he could do that. So they've got 499 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: to add some speed and and that's an offseason thing 500 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: that they need to do. But you can't help even 501 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: just looking at his skill set and look at the 502 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: guys that we just mentioned, like he just he's not 503 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna be able to and from a playmaking standpoint, he's 504 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get that v I P pass, 505 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: get behind the ropes as you say, no, not at all. 506 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an issue. It's gonna be a problem. 507 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: It's gonna be harder for him to be able to. Um, 508 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be harder for him to be able to 509 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: do it. And so I don't know, I don't know 510 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: how they really get it done in every guard, but 511 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: this is gonna it's gonna be hard. Then we go 512 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: to the NFC. Since we were talking about the big 513 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: who are those guys in your mind in the NFC? 514 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: Who are the big four or five teams? So if 515 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: you look at it, and we go with the quarterback thing, right, 516 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: So in the East, you've got Dak, who's you know, 517 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: all by himself with his talent in that division, obviously 518 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Rodgers is the only one I would 519 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: put in there. In the North, um, you've got Brady Um. 520 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: I I don't put anybody else in that division. And 521 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: there Sam's playing well, but he's not in that class 522 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: right now, and then you've got then you've got the 523 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: big boys out there in the West because you've got Kyler, 524 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: You've got Stafford, and you've got Russ. So those are 525 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of the guys. You've got three in that division, 526 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: plus Brady is four, plus Rogers is five, plus Doc 527 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: is six. So we're saying there's six, six premier dudes 528 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: at quarterback in the NFC, So just one more than 529 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: we went with in the a f C. One way 530 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: that you win with, but another but another exam up 531 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: of love. Either you have one or you don't. If 532 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: you don't have one, you gotta try like the Dickens 533 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: to get one, because if not, you don't have a chance. 534 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: And I think that is the bigger thing. And I 535 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: think what we have to do as evaluators. I mean, 536 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: you and I aren't with the team, but when we 537 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: were with the team, can we step away and take 538 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: off our team clothes and look at the quarterback that 539 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: we have and look at him compared to others and 540 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: sometimes make the hard decision DJ to be like, we 541 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: don't have it. The Rams made the hard decision. We'll 542 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: see if they're right, but they made the hard They 543 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: looked at Jerry Golf and they said, I don't yeah, 544 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's good enough to get us 545 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: a man. Look, obviously it was It's easy to say 546 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: it was an easy decision, but Kyler Murray, you know, 547 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, make snap decision right now. Maybe maybe 548 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: Josh can go along and be a good quarterback, but 549 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: we've already seen enough to know he's not going to 550 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: ever be in that elite crowd. So we got to 551 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: turn the page and we got a chance to get 552 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: one of those elite guys you get. I think that 553 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: has that has to be the way that you operate now. 554 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: The thing we are at previous too, But can you 555 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: get ownership to look at it that way? Can you 556 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: have a relationship with your owner to be able to say, 557 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: here's where we are, here's where we want to get to, 558 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: here are the and maybe it's one of those things 559 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: where you bring the poster ward like we used to 560 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: do in the The Science Project. Here, here are the 561 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: big time quarterbacks. Here's what we got, here's what we got. 562 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: We need to have one of these to be able 563 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: to compete. If we don't have one of these, were 564 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: we may get into the tournament, but we may not advance, 565 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: So how do we get in? You know? And I 566 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's a real conversation. And if 567 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: you look at what the Carolina Panthers did and everything 568 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: that you've heard from their owner, David Tapper, he talked 569 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: about those quarterbacks and how they're willing to overturn every 570 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: stone to figure out if they can get one. I 571 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: think that's the approach that teams have to have when 572 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: it comes to that position, that you can't get stuck 573 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: being satisfied with a guy when you want better. I 574 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: think you always have to want better at the position. 575 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: I'll leave you. I'll leave you with this analogy on 576 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: this subject. Uh, you know, I live Gosh. Takes me 577 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: about an hour and a half to get to work, 578 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: right if we go into the network. Well, I have 579 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: fast fast track in California. Right, you get the fast 580 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: track pass, you get in your own special lane and 581 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: you go there. So if I go to work the 582 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: regular way, I can still get to work. Buck might 583 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: might take me two and a half hours, a lot 584 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: of stop and starting, not the most comfortable. Right, I 585 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: can get on a fast track and it's a straight shot, 586 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: not hitting the brakes and go. That's fast track is 587 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: having one of these premier quarterbacks. You can get to 588 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: the destination both ways. Man, it's a heck of a 589 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: lot easier when you got that. It is a heck 590 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: of a lot easier when you have that. It's a 591 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: heck of a lot easier when you have like an 592 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: elite quarterback, um, someone who has like those tools to 593 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: be able to get it done. And so that's that's 594 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: what we're looking for now. I'm curious because as we're 595 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: talking about this, and I don't know if this guy's 596 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna end up being an elite, but this weekend we 597 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: might have an opportunity to see trade Lands with the 598 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty niners. San Francisco forty nine is just 599 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: something that some would consider bold. You and I would say, hey, 600 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: it falls in line with the discussion that we just had. 601 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: They have Jimmy Garoppolo. They've gone to a super Bowl 602 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. They were three quarters maybe they were 603 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: a one quarter away from winning a super Bowl with 604 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, they pulled the trigger and used the 605 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: number three pick on trade Lands because they felt like 606 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: they could get better well, now we'll get an opportunity 607 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: to see him with this team, and we'll get a 608 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: chance to see how he could make this team better. 609 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: When we talk about the fast Track, I'm excited to 610 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: see it. I don't know what it's gonna look like, 611 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see what they're gonna do with 612 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: him because I think it's one of those moves that 613 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan obviously had to feel compelled that I need 614 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: an upgrade. I need an upgrade at the position. Shouldn't 615 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: give us a chance and not only get there, but 616 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to win it. See your trade lands give me an upgrade. Yeah, 617 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: I know. It's Uh, it's it's kind of a weird 618 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: vibe right with a couple of the coaches and their quarterbacks. 619 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: With Kyle Shanahan, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, that attachment still 620 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of exists there. Um, by all accounts, looks like 621 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Jimmy had been better in practice and all that, But 622 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a different offense that you've got Matt 623 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Naggie who's still is coming out saying if any Dalton 624 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: is healthy, um, you know he's going to be the 625 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: guy for them, which you know, but hold on. Let 626 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on the BEARSS thing. 627 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your thoughts on that right after this. 628 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: All right, buck, give me your thoughts here on one. 629 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: It's people have asked me to say, you know, make 630 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: it makes sense. All I can tell you is coaches 631 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: are always obsessed with tomorrow in this week, whereas the 632 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: rest of us and the g MS and the personnel 633 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: department can be obsessed with the future and how do 634 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: we get good as fast as possible. Um, But this seems, man, 635 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: it just seems so short short term think here on 636 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I think it is a short term thing. Um. 637 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's um taking everything into consideration through 638 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: a long term lens. This is a situation, like we've 639 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: talked about. I think the theme of the podcast has 640 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: been the quarterback position and how you must have We're 641 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: just called him five star. You must have a five 642 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: star quarterback. You must have a guy with the ability 643 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: to kind of put the team on the back if needed. Um. 644 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: I look at Justin Fields, I look at what the 645 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Bears have, and I look at Andy Dalton, and I 646 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: think we've seen the best of Andy Dalton. The best 647 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton has done. He did that in Cincinnati, 648 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: like he's been the multiple Pro Bowls. He has led 649 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: that team successfully. I want to say he went to 650 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: five playoffs to Cincinnati Bengals, which is quite an accomplishment. 651 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Now they didn't get a win. Some of that, I 652 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: mean the Pittsburgh still a circumstance that time they played. 653 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: They should have won that game or whatever. So he's 654 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: I think it's his best days are behind it. Good 655 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: solid player, whatever that is. Um, Justin Fields has the 656 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: potential to do more for I go then Andy Dalton 657 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: and some of the previous quarterbacks that they've had. UM. 658 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: I can't understand why, after seeing Justin Fields improve dramatically 659 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 1: from one week to the next, why you wouldn't want 660 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: to continue the maturation process. UM. I like it. This 661 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: is something I was talking to somebody. Look, it's kind 662 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: of like doing TV. You don't get better on TV 663 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: until you do more TV. Don't get better at podcast 664 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and the radio until you do more of it. With 665 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: the experience can bring expertise, and so with Justin Fields, 666 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: get him the experience so he can develop the expertise. 667 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Get the mistakes over with. You're gonna have to make 668 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes when you're starting out in anything. 669 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: So get your mistakes over with fast as possible. The 670 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: faster you can get them over with, the quicker you 671 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: can get where you want to go. It's all in. 672 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: It's all in those books that we read, right, fail 673 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: fast fast, so you can learn, you learn from it, 674 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you build back or whatever. There's no losses, they're just lessons. 675 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: So what you do is you learn from how you 676 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: messed up and you build a bigger, better machine with 677 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: justin fields. He learned obviously from that game against the 678 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, a defense which we just talked about being 679 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: the second best in the league right now in total defense. 680 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Man he got a quick indoctrination to the league, came 681 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: back the next week, played better. You continue to let 682 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: him build on the process, and what you do is 683 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: as he shows you what he can do now up top, 684 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: when you're the general manager and you're the personnel people, 685 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: you now begin to look and say, okay, here's what 686 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: we need. We can get him this. We need to 687 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: get a big playmaking tied in over the middle field. Okay, 688 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: he is really good with money and get money. Imagine 689 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: if we gave him another speedster on the outside that 690 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: can do some of those things. You know, like, I 691 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: want to see how he plays so I know how 692 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: to build the rest of the team around him. And 693 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: you know what, he's a vertical thrower, so we need 694 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: to invest in vertical playmakers down the field, speed guys 695 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: that can make it like, that's what you want to do, 696 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: much like the Patriots should be doing the same thing 697 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. Hey man, he's a small ball hitter. 698 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: We need to get quick, dynamic guys that can make 699 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: it happen with the ball in their hands. Build your 700 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: team around what the quarterback does well. But the only 701 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: way you can do it is by letting him play. 702 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: You gotta let him play. He's funny. Bring up Mac Jones. 703 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: We talked about getting some speed over the top. He needs. 704 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: He needs what Tom had at the beginning. He needs 705 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: a Wes Welker. He needs uh An Edelman type guy, 706 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: Like that's all you're gonna do. Like you know, I 707 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: watched renfro you see him up close and personal last night. 708 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: That's the type of guy. He's perfect to play with. 709 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Max Jones, Rondale Moore's those kind of guests what they 710 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: need to assemble is DJ. We talked about it. Like 711 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: I told you, I'm scarred by my experience against the 712 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Patriots when they beat us in the Super Bowl. I 713 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: was a Panthers to bow thirty eight David pad and 714 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: David Gibbons, Troy Brown. They they had a bunch of 715 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: those didn't didn't get down eight twelve art catches. There 716 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: there a bunch of paper cuts. They need to have 717 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: a cast of playmakers around Mac Jones that can do that. 718 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: So if I'm the Patriots, what I'm doing as I 719 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: am as we can get all these advanced metrics and stats. 720 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: I am going to college football and I'm looking for 721 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: the guys who excel at yards after catch. I want 722 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: all the yak masters. I want all those guys on 723 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: the team, so now we can operate like that. So 724 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: it's the same thing for me with Justin Fields. I 725 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: believe in two games of watching Justin Fields, you need 726 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: guys that can that can stretch the defense so he 727 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: can push it down there, he can air that because 728 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: he has a big arm, he can air it out. 729 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: I want to find guys like that so we can 730 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: play that style because that is the best stout. But 731 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: the only way we really know what he can do 732 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: is like giving him an experience so he can become 733 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: an expert at playing a certain way. Yeah, I think 734 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: he said perfectly. Um Man, get him out there, figure 735 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: out what he is and what he needs, and then 736 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: you can go get that checklist created and go try 737 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: and check office made those boxes as you can the 738 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: upcoming off season. Um, Justin Fields, Ohio state quarterback, former 739 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: Ohio state head coach, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars 740 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: been in the news. Um, everybody's talked about this. There's 741 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: people that have called for urban Meyer's job on this shot. 742 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Con the owner of the Jags has already issued a statement, UM, 743 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of an admonition, would that? Would that 744 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: be the word there? Admonished him whatever that is. Yeah, 745 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: so he got a little he got a little public 746 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: uh hand slapped there from from the owner of the Jaguars. 747 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: But I don't want to talk about what's gonna what 748 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: went on, you know with the with the women at 749 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: the bar. That's something he's gonna have to sort out 750 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: with his family. UM to me, Buck, the biggest takeaway 751 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: from this is I just I don't know if urban 752 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: Meyer knew what he was getting into, like what what 753 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: the expectations are at this level? And give it to 754 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: you this way. If you if Urban Meyers playing in 755 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: a Kickoff Classic, Okay, the first game of the college 756 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: football season, and you play in Dallas, right, So say 757 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: you're in Dallas and they played USC and like the 758 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: kickoff game one year, So you're playing in Dallas. Finished 759 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: the game, the rest of the team can go board 760 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: the buses and get on the plane and come back 761 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: to Columbus. And you're the head coach at Ohio State, 762 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: you might see you know what, there's some kids were 763 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: recruiting in Dallas. I'm gonna stay over here for a 764 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: couple of days. I'm gonna knock out a bunch of 765 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: recruiting visits, talk to go to some high school, see 766 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: some kids, maybe meet up with a couple of buddies 767 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: from college, hang out with them for a little bit. 768 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: The team's gonna be off on Sunday for the most part. Anyways, Monday, 769 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna lift and run. Um, so I'll take my time. 770 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: I'll get back there and oh, by the way, we 771 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: play Akron next week. Um, I've got better players and everybody. 772 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna line up against the NFL. Buck every second 773 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: is scheduled and accounted for, and it is exhausting. I 774 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: remember just being just on the personnel side, forget playing 775 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: or coaching. I would be physically exhausted by the end 776 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: of the season because every second was scheduled and spoken for. 777 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he had any idea that that's what 778 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: the NFL is. No, I don't think he had any 779 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: idea on that, And I don't think he understood the 780 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: scrutiny that comes with him in the National Football League 781 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: and what's going on right now. Some of this is 782 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: you have to be able to read the room, right, 783 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: like DJ, If the Jaguars are four, no, no, no 784 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: one says anything like it doesn't become what has become. 785 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: But if you're owing for as part of a nineteen 786 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: game losing streak, that's really really hard, not a good look. 787 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: And so when you think about a nineteen game losing street, 788 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: because remember this is for the fans, like fans is 789 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: short for fanatic, so you have people that are It 790 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: may be hard for people outside of Jackie will understand this. 791 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: People that are fanatical about the Jaguars right, and what 792 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: every fan wants is to feel like everyone associated with 793 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: the organization is working as hard as they in to 794 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: fix whatever it ails the team, particularly when you're losing 795 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: like that, And so the optics of it doesn't reflect 796 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: what your words may be saying. So if you're saying that, man, 797 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: we're working hard to turn this around, no one's going 798 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: to work harder than than we are at getting this around. 799 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: What the optics suggests, No, you know, like it's happening Like, no, 800 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: you're not. And so what it does is it undermines 801 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: the credibility that you have as a leader, because you're 802 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: not just the leader of the team, you're the leader 803 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: of the organization. And really you want of the shining 804 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: lights in the city. Now, I'm not going to sit 805 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: here and be the more police and all that other stuff. 806 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't. That's why that's why I purposely 807 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: said I'm not but yeah, so I'm not, but but 808 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: but but what I'm saying is like, your actions have 809 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: to match your words. And so if you've been doing 810 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: this and you've been the focal point of all the 811 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: other stuff, like your actions have to match your words. 812 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: And because of the slip up all of that stuff 813 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 1: that you said, leading up to it. It's now gone. 814 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: And so now what you have is, man, you gotta 815 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: organization that is like you have players that are looking 816 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: at the head coach trying to figure out, like, Okay, 817 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: what's what's going on? What is this? Some of them 818 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: are so young they don't really understand, like they're trying 819 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: to figure it out. You have people within the organization 820 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: trying to look at them and trying to figure out, like, 821 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: what does this mean, how we're gonna go forward? We 822 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: have all these other things that are going on around 823 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: the organization when it comes to these projects and all 824 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: this other stuff where he's been the face of makes 825 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: it very, very difficult. And so now what happens is 826 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: the pressure that was already mounted when you've lost nineteen 827 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: in a row, now it's enormous. Like it went from 828 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: being a monkey on your back to a gorilla because 829 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: you're looking at becoming one of the only franchises with 830 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: the twenty game losing straight if you lose this next 831 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: game against the Tennessee Titans. Uh. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers 832 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: are the onlyanization that has had a longer losing streak 833 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: in the National Football League DJ. When you run out 834 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Tennessee Titans. In the backdrop of 835 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: all of this holy smokes, you know, and so everything, 836 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: and so if your team goes out and drops a dud, 837 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: now you gotta step to the podium and you might 838 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: be responsible for creating a distraction that it prevented your 839 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: team from playing at its best. A lot of pressure. 840 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of press. It's just a 841 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. And you wonder, how is that pressure 842 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: going to affect your decision making in game? Because what 843 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: normally we would say, hey, it's a one off, Every 844 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: game is a snowflake, there's no carry over from the 845 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: previous games. But now you wonder do you feel that 846 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: do you now begin to make fourth down decisions based 847 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: on everything that lets let up to this point? Are 848 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: you seeing in the moment this is the best place. 849 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a lot. I mean, we'll see. 850 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: He is one of the best turnaround specialists that I've 851 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: ever seen do what he does when it comes to 852 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: reb in a program. This is about far, in my estimation, 853 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge that he will face in terms of 854 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: taking his leadership ability and putting into practice. Yeah, I mean, 855 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: I guess it kind of begs the question, though, Buck 856 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: it's his passion in recruiting, is his passion and coaching. 857 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: There are two different things in college. Look, if you're 858 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: if you're recruiting and coaching, you can win national championships 859 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL one Union recruiting. You know, this is 860 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: no we got a draft. This is this is a 861 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: coach league. Coaching coaches league. This is a league that 862 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: is about tactics and development and understanding week by week 863 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: over the course of the season. How do I get 864 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: my team better? I saw this and I think this 865 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: is this is great and I can slip this in. 866 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: Mike tomlin Um was being interviewed by the Still This Report, 867 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: and he talked about there are two types of choice, 868 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: their fundamentalists and their schemers. Yeah, fundamentalists are about the 869 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: fundamentals and the detail. They typically operate with a small 870 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: package of plays because they're going to say that you 871 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: may know what we're doing, but we do it better 872 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: than anybody else on the planet because we're on the details. 873 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: We know every little thing about what we're doing. Their schemers, 874 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: who go about actingly knowing and they can draw it 875 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: up better than anybody else, and each week they're going 876 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: to give you complexities that bust the brains of your 877 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: offensive players, of your defensive players, and whatever. So for Urban, 878 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: not only is this a decision between are you a 879 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: recruiter or are you a coaching tactician? But now, in 880 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: the coaching world of the NFL, how do you separate 881 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: yourself from everybody else? We watched that game on Thursday night. 882 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: We were calling it for Amazon during a rehearsal. We 883 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: watched that Can he get his team and his coaches 884 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: to go next level as tacticians to give them an 885 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: advantage because the advantages in this league are not necessarily 886 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: about the players. It's about the X and os and 887 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: how you make those X and nos come to life. 888 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to give you a comparison here and again 889 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: this says, I'm not comparing anything that happened. Put the 890 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: thing at the Put the thing that happened at the 891 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: bar to the side. Okay, you played for coach Mike Homegrown, right, Yeah, 892 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: Coach Homegren had Super Bowls. Coach home Homegren had all 893 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: this success when he got to the Cleveland Browns. I 894 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: wasn't there, but a lot of the reports were it 895 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: was a nine to five operation that that passion to 896 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: put in the time that he had put in previously 897 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: did not exist anymore. So he just kind of he 898 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: just checked the box and then it didn't It didn't 899 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: work out. Urban Meyer has accomplished all that he's accomplished 900 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: at the collegiate levels and masked all the success. I 901 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: wonder if there's a little bit of a parallel at 902 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: least that question inside that building. It's like, man, does 903 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: this guy really have something to chase here? Because I 904 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm getting that passion that all in 905 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: everything it takes to win, because he's already he's already 906 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: won so much. There's a different level. It's a new challenge. 907 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I remember somebody joking at what 908 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't I don't think it's about coach Homer with 909 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: somebody else, but somebody towards the end of their coaching run, 910 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: they said, if you to put a million dollars on 911 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: his desk at six pm and went and picked it 912 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: up at nine am, he'd never see it. Um. So 913 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like, this isn't I just that's what's so 914 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: bizarre to me, is that I you know what it is, 915 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: but the time commitment in the season, you don't see 916 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: I mean, as awful as it is, you don't see 917 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: your family. It's one of the reasons why I got 918 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: of scouting because I'm like, you can't have any balance. 919 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: There's no balance in your life. And I just don't 920 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: know how in the world is a head coach in 921 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: the NFL you have time to go out in the season. 922 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Not none of that is It's not even 923 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: the going out part like DJ is. It's the optics 924 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: in the timing and the circumstance. Okay, So as I say, 925 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: if the Jaguars were four and oh, you're three and 926 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: one coming off a win, I think it's received differently. 927 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: When you lose, though, and you've lost a ton, it's hard, 928 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's just it's just hard. It's 929 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: one of those things where you can't make hard and 930 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: fast schedules. But you can't make hard and fast schedules 931 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: until you know what the outcome of the game is, right, 932 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: so we all know, Like so the listeners understand. In 933 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: the National Football League there's a thing called victory Monday. Okay, 934 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: so the way the day is scheduled, Um, you play 935 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Monday is normally a day where you're coming, 936 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: You'll watch the film, You'll Live, You'd rehab, and then 937 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: you go. Then Tuesdays the mandatory day off. Well, some 938 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: teams reward the players with the victory Monday, which means 939 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: Monday is off once you have to go. We'll see 940 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: you on Wednesday, so you get two days off Monday Tuesday. 941 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: Some guys will scoot and go out of town for 942 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 1: a day or two just to go see their family, 943 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: go hang out and do whatever they do, and come 944 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: back Rechards ready to go on Wednesday. But you don't 945 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: let people know until after you see the outcome of 946 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: the game, which is why it's called victory Monday. You win, 947 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: you get a treat, you lose, you come back on 948 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: Monday and you go to work. That's what it is. 949 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think he needed to understand if he was 950 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a victory Friday, it must accompany a victory 951 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: otherwise otherwise it doesn't work. Because even in that if 952 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: they went on Thursday night DJ, then it potentially is 953 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: a little different conversation because look, they had to win. 954 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: He gave everybody time even win the game. I just 955 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: you gotta get on the plane. Man, you gotta go. 956 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: You gotta go with the time, like it's a random circumstance, 957 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, you're right, because you have to go. There 958 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: are things that I know DJ as a high school coach. 959 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: They're like, Man, I don't want to ride this bush. 960 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: What alright, we're bus riding bus? I mean this little 961 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: cramp bus like man, part of in the part of 962 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,479 Speaker 1: bend the leader and the team, part of being the coach. 963 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: It's part of being the leader. And so when we 964 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: think about it, because I think sometimes on our podcast 965 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: we do a really good job of bringing leadership things in. 966 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: The leader has to know it though, Like we've had 967 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: Urban arm he's talked about all this stuff. You have 968 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: to get in the foxhole with the team. You cannot 969 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: lead the army from the back. You gotta lead the count. 970 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: What is the old saying, Like they don't they don't 971 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: care how much they know unless they know how much 972 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: you care, well you et care for you don't even 973 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: the plane Like that's what And and he know, like 974 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: he's got to know that, he's he's got to know that. 975 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: That's what he's crazy to me, But he knows all that, 976 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: particularly in a time when we have jet life, private 977 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: jet life, where we can have a private jet takes 978 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: wherever we want to go quickly. He could do it. 979 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: He could have flown back, flew right back up to 980 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: see the grandkids or whatever on Friday morning and have 981 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: been a big deal. Yeah. You So what you're saying 982 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: is you fly with the team back to Jacksonville and 983 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: then if you've got a day or a little bit 984 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: of and if you really want to get back on 985 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: the plane and go back and do that, get right 986 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: back up. Like it's not it's not that big of 987 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: a deal. Some of there's some of the things that 988 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: you had the DJ. We've talked about it at scouts 989 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: where um, I mean I can say, like, dude, weekends, 990 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: I wanted to go home. It's just kids, so hey, 991 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm not scheduled to be home. But I'll be like, 992 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a fly. I'm a fly, or 993 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm a drive. I'm gonna drive home for a day. 994 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: Two didn't come back and get back on the road 995 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: where I'm at, Like that's part of the deal. Like, 996 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: that's some of the things that you haven't made. But 997 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 1: that's a personal sacrifice that you have to make. That's 998 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: not one of those that you do it because I 999 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: don't even know how you how do you break the 1000 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: team up when you don't go back on the plane 1001 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: everybody when you get off the bus. Like, all I 1002 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: know is I I missed my family, and I would 1003 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: we've all done it when the scouting world buck. I've 1004 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: made the twelve hour drives. I made the fourteen hour 1005 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: drives just to get home for a day or two. 1006 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: But my my home for a day or two look 1007 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: to different than That's what I'm saying. You would, Yeah, 1008 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: it's not like that. I was. I was changing changing 1009 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: diapers and and and having dinner with the family, so different, different, 1010 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: different deal. I got you all choked up now, anything 1011 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: you want to add, but before we get out of here, No, man, 1012 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: this is great. I think I think it was great 1013 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: because the one thing that I love about our conversation 1014 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you make me think about random stuff that I 1015 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: want to investigate further. So one the Brandon daily thing 1016 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: and the defense and what the charges are doing to 1017 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback anither you have one or you don't. I 1018 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: think that's a fascinating discussion. In this one, they would 1019 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: have to continue to keep an eye on. Not only 1020 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: has the trade deadline draws near, but as we begin 1021 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: to cast our eye towards the draft, is there anybody 1022 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: in next year's draft that will be seen as an 1023 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: upgrade to get a team into that that conversation. Yeah, 1024 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: and I think on that five star conversation. Just to 1025 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: wrap pup it up here, it's been a fun pod. 1026 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: But when you look at the five do we have 1027 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: a five star quarterback? Is the term we're using here, 1028 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: It's it's three answers, yes, No, Maybe, like you know 1029 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson's, the Justin Fields, those are the tray 1030 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: lances those guys are you know, I think like I 1031 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: think Joe burrow Is is right on the cusp of 1032 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: being checked it. Yes, but there's a bunch of those 1033 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: guys and that maybe now we've got some that we 1034 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: are confident our yes, and we've got some we're confident 1035 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 1: are no. And those that you know right now are 1036 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: a no. You gotta move on. You got you've got 1037 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: some work to do, all right. That's gonna do it 1038 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: for us. The phone that I hope you guys have 1039 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed it when encourage you guys to leave us a 1040 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: rating review on Apple Podcasts. We do appreciate those, um 1041 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: and uh we'll catch you back here. We've got one 1042 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: more pod this week as we head off towards another 1043 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: fantastic week of NFL and college football. We'll see you 1044 00:50:52,160 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 1: next time right here on move the six before two 1045 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: stout haste to alt ut