1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. After 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: We can at any time today have a press conference 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: coming out of Utah about the Charlie Kirk assassin. The 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: head of the FBI, Cash Bettel, is flying back from Washington, 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: flying from Washington to Utah and presumably would be part 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: of the press conference. Headlines and these are just one 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: line graphics on cable news say there's rapid developments in 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the case, but there's no details. One report from the 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal indicated that they found the gun. The 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: rifle was, along with other evidence, was tossed in the 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: woods and unspent cartridges inside the rifle had engravings about 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: transgender and anti fascist ideology. And there isn't much more 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: than that. So we'll see. Maybe we're gonna have press 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: conference during our show or maybe some time later. Keep 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: listening to KFI in the meantime until we get something new. 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: There are many other things going on as always, because 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: the government, the oppressive government here, never stops screwing you over. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk now with Angela McGregor. She's 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: a writer for the West Side Current and she's got 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: an exclusive story about a particular homeless housing project. And 24 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: I remember when the idiot Mike Bonnen was my councilman. 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: This was a big deal. They wanted to convert a 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: ramata in about a mile from the Venice Pier into 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: permanent homeless housing. They have gotten almost twenty million dollars 28 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: in grants, loans and donations, but there's been no construction. 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: And this whole project now covers five years and there's 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: nothing's been done. So where's the money? What's going on? 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: Let's got Angela McGregor from West Side Current. He Hi, 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: how are you. 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you, Thank you for having me anytime. 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you have the time. Give us a 35 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: brief rundown the history of this thing. 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, in December of twenty twenty, the La City 37 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: Administrator's Office loaned shigned off on a five year zero 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: interest mortgage loan two Path Ventures for the purchase and 39 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: renovation of this ramata, which is, as you said, about 40 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: a mile from the Venice Pier. 41 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: Path Ventures is the name of this nonprofit. 42 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: Path Ventures is kind of the real estate arm of 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: PATH which stands for People Assisting the Homeless, and they 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: have a pretty massive real estate portfolio and this is 45 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: one of those projects. They borrowed eleven million dollars the 46 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: purchase prices nine and a half. The rest of it 47 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: was to go to renovate it into transitional housing for 48 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: the homeless. They didn't inform the community in any way, 49 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: shape or form that they were doing this, and in fact, 50 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: Tracy Park got wind of it when she was kind 51 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: of walking down her street and bumped into a contractor 52 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: she knew who told her what was going on there, 53 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: and she pulled the community together, her neighbors together to 54 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: try to, you know, get this project slowed down or 55 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: shut down because they didn't notice. They're suppose, legally, they're 56 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: supposed to notice if there's a change of use. They 57 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: never did that. That didn't go forward, but she did. 58 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: They also tried to get a community ben fits agreement 59 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: with the VNC to at least assure the residents that 60 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: there would be no registered sex offenders or violent felons 61 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 3: or anything like that. 62 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Could not get an agreement on that. 63 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: No, they couldn't get an agreement on that three blocks 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 3: from two different elementary schools. And the reason I found 65 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: this out later when I got the mortgage documents. The 66 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: mortgage stipulated that it be a low barrier entry facility. 67 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: In other words, they couldn't because of the mortgage. They 68 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: couldn't even screen anyone to live there. 69 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, they couldn't keep anybody out. That was part 70 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: of the terms of the mortgage. So they couldn't discriminate 71 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: against sex offenders or violent felons, right. 72 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: And they couldn't mandate sobriety. They couldn't do any of that. 73 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: They didn't tell the residents that. They just didn't adopt 74 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: the CBA that the VNC had tried to house, and 75 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: so these people moved in. There were two overdose deaths 76 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: and a registered sex offender living there at one point 77 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: was there and this was when it was temporary housing. 78 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: It was temporary house for about fourteen months, right, And 79 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: it's got one and a half million bucks from LAWH 80 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: to operated temporary housing for the fourteen months another two 81 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: and a half million. 82 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: Is this a residential neighborhood? You said, it's it's not 83 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: far from a couple of schools. It's a residential neighborhood. 84 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: It backs up to backs up to this, yeah, to 85 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 3: the President's Row area of Venice. It's a beautiful little neighborhood. 86 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Oh so they. 87 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Have drug addicts overdosing. They have a sex offender in 88 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: there totally, and they're getting they have got like twenty 89 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: million dollars in tax money and donations. 90 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: Well, this is this is here's the deal. So they 91 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: had bond and I had to an interview there with 92 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: the Nation. They headline something like Mike Bonnen put his 93 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: political career on the line for this homeless housing facility. 94 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: And he was there. 95 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: He was the hobnobbing with the residents and sharing stories 96 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: about being a recovering addict. And they get to this 97 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: glowing profile of him, and within a few months of 98 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: that interview being published October twenty twenty two, it shut down. 99 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: They kicked everybody out and it's been vacant ever since. 100 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: And their excuse for doing that was that they were 101 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: going to move forward with converting it because these are 102 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: project homekey funds that they're using converting it into permanent 103 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: supportive housing. 104 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: That's county, that's county text twenty LA County houses project Okay, yeah, Project. 105 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: Home Key they also got in twenty twenty four and 106 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: may have twenty twenty three million dollar hud grand to 107 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: convert the product they got. I think the Hilton Foundation 108 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: gave them a half a million bucks. I mean, this 109 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: is all in the last few years, and yet with 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: all this money coming in, there's still nothing going on there. 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: They told us back in May of twenty twenty four, 112 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: they told the Current that they were going to get 113 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: started building it right away, and Crickets and Tracy Park 114 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: filed a motion at city and the city council approved it, 115 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: and the motion was essentially to the city administrator's office saying, 116 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: I want to report on what the hell is going 117 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: on with this project, like why has no work been done? 118 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: Why is nothing happening home Key. If you recall, was 119 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: this program where they would buy up these underutilizeds during 120 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: the pandemic. They would buy up these underutilized motels and oh, 121 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: by the way, this particular motel was actually pretty popular 122 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 3: when it was open. Its family friendly, mid price close 123 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: to the beach. We're going to buy up these motels 124 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: and hotels that were underutilized, convert them quick and ease 125 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, into housing for the homeless, and the idea 126 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: was that it was going to be quick and it 127 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: was going to be cost effective and nothing. So I 128 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: reached out to the City Administrator's office and said, well, 129 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: what happened to that report? They said, well, we're going 130 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: to issue it after the budget comes out. Well, the 131 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: budget came out and there was nothing. So I filed 132 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: what's called a California Public Records Act request for all 133 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: of the correspondence between them and the people who owned 134 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: the Ramata, the former Ramata, the Path Ventures. And that 135 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: took a while and I got fifty six documents totaling 136 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: several hundred pages. 137 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: It was a lot. 138 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: And within that, I think the most interesting part was 139 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: an email back and forth between the CEO and Path 140 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: Ventures that read to me almost like a hostage debate, 141 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: like the CEO saying, the Path Ventures, what's going on? 142 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: Can you get started? And then Path entures time and 143 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: time again coming back to them and saying we need 144 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: more money. 145 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: Well where did the first twenty million dollars go? And 146 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: then the CEO is the City Administrator's office. 147 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four it was actually it was actually fourteen 148 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: million dollars, but now they're saying that's not going to 149 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: do it. We need another with CEO says we'll have 150 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: that some retroactive HHH funding in a million and a half. 151 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Where's the money? 152 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, good question. And now they're saying, well that's not enough. 153 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: They want water meters. So they get them a grant 154 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: from another not for profit. It's a construction loan another 155 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: million two and. 156 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: This doesn't smell good. 157 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: Right. As of recently, they've they've accumulated nineteen and a 158 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: half million dollars. Over nineteen and a half million dollars 159 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: in all of this funding, the HUD funding. They also 160 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: told the CEO, well, we're worried the HUD funding is 161 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: going to get clawed back. So what the CEO told 162 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: us was they've spent the HUD funding to quote unquote 163 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: maintain the property. This was the federal twenty five grand 164 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: a month. 165 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: All right, Angela, I'm going to have to go. This 166 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: is just another atrocity here. It's almost twenty million dollars. 167 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: The site's been vacant since October of twenty twenty two. 168 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: Nothing's been built. Path Ventures is the name of this 169 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: nonprofit that's supposed to have had it finished. It should 170 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: have been done in the summertime of this year, and 171 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: they're they're at square one still. 172 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, now they're saying it won't it won't 173 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: open until summer next year. 174 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure. 175 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: I'd just like to know what account maybe the accounts 176 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: in the Bahamas, maybe Cayan. 177 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Island or Switzerland. 178 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: Their employees a lot of money. 179 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to look at an employee salary list. 180 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Angela. When you find out more, 181 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: let us know. 182 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I will thank you for calling. 183 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: All right, Angela McGregor from Westside Current dot com. The 184 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: corruption in the homeless nonprofit industry in La County is unending. 185 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: It is so massive they should all be shut down 186 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: and investigated by the federal government. I'm blumping in everybody together. 187 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: You're guilty until proven innocent. This is just this is 188 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: just too much. And there's a thousand of these stories. 189 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: Got more coming up. 190 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 191 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: Forty Moistline eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven 192 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: seven Moist eighty six, or the talkback feature on the 193 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: iheartradiop and Moistline Day is Tomorrow, Friday. In the three 194 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: o'clock hour coming up after three point thirty. You know, 195 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: I have a problem doing like fake happy talk or 196 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: inspirational talk. I mean, this is like, this is my 197 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: dad's side here. Because of the Charlie Kirk tragedy, there's 198 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: a lot of people going in television and they're saying 199 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: about how we all need to come together and we 200 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: need to stop this, and we need to it's not 201 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: going to stop. All this hopeful talk is really absurd. 202 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: That's not what human nature is. There's never been a 203 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: time when we've all been united. There's never been a 204 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: time where we all got along politically. It just doesn't exist. 205 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: In fact, I read a piece today and I'm going 206 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: to talk about it coming up, and this researcher makes 207 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: a good argument that we may be at the beginning 208 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: of a long running spasm of political violence, because this 209 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: happens periodically in our society and everyone else's. It's just 210 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: the way we're designed, and it may be tit for 211 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: tat on both sides, and it doesn't stop until something 212 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: truly heinous happens, maybe more heinous than what happened to 213 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. And you know that's just embedded in our DNA. 214 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: I am not an optimist about the human race. I 215 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: don't have that gene in me. So we're gonna talk 216 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: about that coming up, because I just I don't see 217 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: this idea that we're all going to sit down and 218 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: work out our differences peacefully. I'm glad that Charlie Kirk 219 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: was trying, but I think that crazy people are unreachable. 220 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Whoever shot him was completely unreachable, and it doesn't matter 221 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: who wants to sit down and talk with him. Unless 222 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: you have the views that crazy guy has, then he's 223 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: gonna impulse to kill you. And that's why the crazy 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: people ought to be rounded up at the first sign 225 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: that they're this violent and this insane, and you lock 226 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: them up and you never let them out again. But 227 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: that's just me. I want to follow up just for 228 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: a moment on we just had. We just had Angela 229 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: McGregor on from Westside Current dot com and they she 230 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: did a good investigation on how Path Ventures and Path 231 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: Ventures is one of these huge homeless nonprofits and they 232 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: have a lot of real estate they've bought up and 233 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: they get a lot of grants, a lot of tax money, 234 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: a lot of interest, three loans, and they have gotten 235 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: about twenty million dollars to build a homeless housing project 236 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: in Venice, a former Ramonta in and after about five 237 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: years and twenty million, nothing's been built. That is a racket, 238 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: that nonprofit homeless racket. And so now you just have 239 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: this blighted, old empty building sitting in a residential area. 240 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: And all this blight, all the vagrants, all the crime, 241 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: all the businesses that have gone out of business because 242 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: of the homelessness and the crime and the stupid COVID 243 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: shutdown are really costing all these progressive cities a lot 244 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: of money. Let me tell you something that's just shocking 245 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: US retailers, and this is according to Ted Jenkin with 246 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: Fox News, US retailers lost in twenty twenty two one 247 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve billion dollars because of theft. One hundred 248 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: and twelve billion. You know how much that is. That's 249 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: bigger than the GDP of Costa Rica or Croatia. It 250 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: is bigger than the GDP of medium sized countries. That's 251 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: how much just the retail sector lost because of thieves, 252 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: largely in big cities, stealing stuff. And there was a 253 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: huge increase and according to another study done by the 254 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: National Retail Federation Retailers reported a ninety three percent increase 255 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: in the number of shoplifting incidents in twenty twenty three 256 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: compared to twenty nineteen, and a ninety percent increase in 257 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: dollar loss same thing over a four year period. Ninety 258 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: three percent more shoplifting incidents, ninety percent more money stolen, 259 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: and target alone projects a half a billion dollars in 260 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: losses this year because of organized retail crime, much of 261 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: it in places like San Francisco, Portland, and New York. 262 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Walgreens closed dozens of stories in San Francisco, Nordstrom pulled out. 263 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of this in La as well. 264 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: And you know in San Francisco now commercial vacancies thirty 265 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: five percent thirty five percent of commercial space vacant in 266 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: downtown San Francisco, all because the Progressives pledged a legiance, 267 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: pledged allegiance to drug addicts, mental patients, homeless people, and criminals. 268 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: So they took over the place, and over a third 269 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: of the businesses fled, and now San Francisco is short 270 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: of tax revenue. Oh, Santa Monica the other day basically 271 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: declaring themselves bankrupt. Same thing, they drove out so many 272 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: businesses now they're saying, Wow, you know we're broke here, 273 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: we're short of a lot of tax revenue. 274 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: Well, what did you think was going to happen all 275 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: right when we come back. 276 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: I I don't think anything is going to get better. 277 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: All the call for unity, I don't think they're going 278 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: to have any effect after the Charlie Kirk killing. 279 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. 280 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you a little bit from a researcher 281 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: who gave an interview in Politico today, and yeah, I 282 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: just you know, I can't fake it. 283 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Some guys can do it. You're so negative. 284 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: See that's the thing. That's what people going being negative, 285 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: aren't you? Why don't we be hopeful? That's like fake hope. 286 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: What does that give you? 287 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you can fake it till you. 288 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: Make it, fake it until I'm actually hopeful. Yeah, I'll 289 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: be dead by then. 290 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 291 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: six forty. 292 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: We're on the radio here from one till four and 293 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: also streaming, and you should if you just joined in 294 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: the show. Middle of the first hour, one thirty hour 295 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: one on the podcast, we talked to Charlie Kirk's pastor 296 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: and his inspiration for melding religion with his political message. 297 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: Pastor Rob McCoy. He's based locally here at God Speak 298 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: Calvary Chapel in newbury Park. We spoke with him from 299 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Arizona where he was with the Kirk family, and that'll 300 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 2: be on the podcast posted after four o'clock. All right, 301 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: So I was saying, so with something like this happens, 302 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: you know, people have their responses, but one thing you 303 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: hear repeatedly is like, well, you know this has to stop. 304 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, we have to settle our differences by 305 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: talking to each other, by having conversations. 306 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: That's a good idea. You know. 307 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: We have to be tolerant of each other's point of view. 308 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: We can't settle this with finlence. I said, I know that, 309 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: you know that, But the guy standing on the roof 310 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: with rifle, he's not listening to your message and there's 311 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: no way to get to him. Okay, now he's on 312 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: his bullet casings or the Cartridges authority said they found 313 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: engravings with anti fascist, idiot and transgender ideology. So it 314 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: was some kind of message like the killer in New 315 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: York of a healthcare executive he put anti insurance company 316 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: messages on his bullets. 317 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: Well, you can't talk to those people. 318 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: So I appreciate everybody has to go on television and 319 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: they want you to fill three or five minutes. 320 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: But why doesn't I didn't hear anybody say the truth. 321 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 2: The people who should be listening to this message and 322 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: changing their behavior or their outlook on life are not 323 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: going to because they're up on the roof loading the 324 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: rifle and they're not interested in your message. I guess 325 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: it makes people feel good. Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. 326 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody's got to do what they do to 327 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: get through a bad situation. 328 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 5: But well, what are they supposed to say? You know, 329 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: there's there's nothing we can do. It's gonna lead to chaos. 330 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: We're gonna have more assassinations. This is just the way 331 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 5: things are. And just be prepared for just assassinations, and 332 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 5: you got it. 333 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: That's what we should say. Well that may be true, though. 334 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: The thing is, what I know is the guy on 335 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: the roof is not going to be listening to your. 336 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: Pleas for civil discourse. 337 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: See, he's more likely, you know, to do this again 338 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: if he gets away. There is a guy and I 339 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: this particular piece I read in political magazine, I'd already 340 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: frequently thought this way. But there's a guy named William Bernstein. 341 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: He's a neurologist, and he wrote a book called The 342 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: Delusion of Crowds. I haven't read it, but I'm going 343 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: to The Delusion of Crowds about the consequences of mass 344 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: hysteria in history. Now, we've had a lot of mass 345 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: hysteria over the last ten years. We had George Floyd 346 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: mass hysteria. We had COVID mass hysteria, we had Trump 347 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: mass hysteria. Climate change me too, and there's probably five 348 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: or ten more. 349 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: But I think you got the point. 350 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: And he says, you expect waves of political violence to continue. Eventually, 351 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: it'll stop, but maybe not until we reach a terrible episode, 352 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: more terrible than what happened to Charlie Kirk yesterday. And finally, 353 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: that's a tipping point. And he bases his belief on 354 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: a lot of research. A lot of people have a 355 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: mindset where they look at the world as made up 356 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: of in groups and outgroups. It's called binary thinking. He says, 357 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: it's extremely widespread, extremely pervasive. You know, for example, you're 358 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: a conservative and the liberals or the progressives, Well, they're 359 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: the outgroup, and if you're a progressive, you've got the 360 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: reverse view. The conservatives are the outgroup, and they think 361 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: it's actually genetically determined because they've looked at twins. And 362 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: it turns out if one twin has this way of 363 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: binary thinking where he looks at the world as in 364 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: groups and out groups, so does the other twin. And 365 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: he said, now you have online communities, social media communities 366 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: that form around certain issues, and. 367 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: All the people with that mindset get together. 368 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Now you have a large group, he goes, and this 369 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: has probably always been true in human nature, but now 370 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: online connections can make these groups much larger, larger, and 371 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: they feed into each other's insanity and paranoia. And he said, 372 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: here's the way it can work. If you have a 373 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: bunch of people in the room. Let's say they're talking 374 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: about abortion. And let's say there's a median position on 375 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: abortion right in the middle, and there are people who 376 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: are at zero absolute anti abortion, there's people at ten 377 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: rapidly pro abortion, and maybe you have some people in 378 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: the middle right at a five or six. Well, guess what, 379 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: over time, if they're with these people long enough, the 380 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: way you'd be with them online, you will drift towards 381 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: one extreme or the other because you want to be 382 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: part of a group. You want to be with the 383 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: cool kids. He goes, and this is what happens, and 384 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: they get sucked in. They make more and more extreme 385 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: statements again online they get more approval from their new friends. 386 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: You don't turn. 387 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Anybody on with the milk toast, middle of the road opinion. 388 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: People get turned on by somebody sticking out the extreme. 389 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: He said. 390 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: This happened during during COVID with the vaccines started out 391 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: with he said, moms thinking, well should I get my 392 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: kids vaccinated? You know, I have some concerns. I want 393 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: to talk about this being formed and it turned in 394 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: you know, how vile people got to each other over 395 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: whether they believed in mandatory. 396 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Vaccines or not. He says, this, this will end up, 397 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: and he compares. 398 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: To this the late nineteen well, the nineteen sixties, when 399 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: you know John Kennedy was assassinated, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, 400 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: and he said it just stopped after that. There was 401 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: a lot of street violence, a lot of rioting. 402 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: It just stopped. 403 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: And he doesn't know for sure, but he suspects people 404 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: just get exhausted. It calls them cathartic cataclysms, a cathartic 405 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: turning point, looks like an awful piece of mass violence. 406 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: This happens in civil wars, This happens like in Northern Ireland. 407 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: And he says, yeah, it's the nineteen sixties because it 408 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: wasn't just the assassinations, it was the street violence. And 409 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: then things calm down. He says, people get bored. You know, 410 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: another violent day of rioting, another violent day where somebody 411 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: gets going. Oh yeah, same old thing that happened Friday. 412 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: And then they stopped for a while, and then years 413 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: go by and they start up again. And if you 414 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: look at the history of the human race, not just 415 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: here but everywhere else, it's. 416 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 1: True we're wired that way. 417 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: But now we have the added overstimulation obsession with being online, 418 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: being part of these social media groups, and everybody feeds 419 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: into each other's insanity. 420 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: So that's why I can't do the happy dance. It's okay, 421 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: like you the way you are, This is the way 422 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: I live now. When we come back. 423 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: We've talked some about that those cartridges they found with 424 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: the transgender message on it in the rifle of the killer. 425 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: I want to play you a clip of what. 426 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: Just one example of what Charlie Kirk, How Charlie Kirk 427 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: dealt with transgenderism and a real transgender person who was 428 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: a guy with a mustache and wearing a pink dress 429 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: at one of his appearances, and you can hear the 430 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: back and forth. 431 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: That's next. 432 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 433 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: We don't have any further information yet on the new find. 434 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal reported that they know the rifle 435 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: that was used to kill Charlie Kirk was found in 436 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: the woods, and they found some unspent cartridges in the 437 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: rifle and they had engravings and about transgender and anti 438 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: fascist ideo ideology statements. 439 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: Don't know exactly what it said. I did see a clip. 440 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: Of him, Charlie Kirk talking to a transgender now it 441 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: was at one of his events and this person came 442 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: up and he was a young guy, kind of chunky, bobbery, 443 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: wearing dark roomed glasses, longish hair and had a bit 444 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: of a beard stubble, and wearing a pink dress with 445 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: like frilly white lace around the edges of the dress 446 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: and he confronted Charlie Kirk about Charlie's views play this clip. 447 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: You're part of the problem, I think with the hatred 448 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: on trans people. 449 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: It's really not that deep. 450 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: Like, if someone wants to dress up however they want, 451 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: that's totally fine. 452 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 6: Okay, So I think I'm not You're not preventing you 453 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 6: from dressing Yeah. 454 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, However, let. 455 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 6: Me ask you a question. I will brush this out. 456 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 6: So let's pretend you say you are a woman. Yeah, 457 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: I know you are a man, but I refuse to 458 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 6: call you a woman. Okay, who's the hateful one? 459 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: I would say you are? I mean, you're going to. 460 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 6: Me and shame me, not a second man, I'm the 461 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 6: hateful one. 462 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: It's really just like common courtesy. 463 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 6: It is never the common courtesy to lie. You do 464 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 6: not become a thing just because you say it. 465 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: You are the thing. Guess what. 466 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 6: Nobody in the history of the species that was born 467 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 6: xx or born x y and transition is able to 468 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 6: change their chromosomes. Every one of your cells is coded 469 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 6: either xx or xy. But then it is an insult 470 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: to women everywhere in this audience and across the country 471 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 6: that's saying that you could just have wear makeup and 472 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 6: dress like a woman, undergo surgery that you magically become 473 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: a woman, and it is the abolition of women and 474 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 6: is the abolition of reality. And we see great, unjust 475 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 6: human suffering because of it. 476 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: And it's having an opinion like that that may have 477 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: gotten him killed. And he is correct. Excess chromosomes indicate 478 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: female biological sex and x y chromosomes indicate a male 479 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: biological sex. 480 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: And he's right. 481 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you put on a pretty pink dress 482 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: with white frilly lace, that doesn't make you a woman. 483 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't change your chromosomes male female characteristics. That's biology. 484 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: That's what you were born with. And every cell in 485 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: your body as xx chromosomes if you're female, and x 486 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: y chromosomes if you're male. There's no other way it 487 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: can be. Now, you can call yourself anything you want, 488 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: and you can dress any way you want, but to 489 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: try to force people to say, oh, you're a woman, Oh, 490 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: some people aren't going to do that. Charlie Kirk was 491 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: one of them, and those thoughts may have gotten him killed. 492 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: If we go by the engravings on one of the bullets, 493 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: according to the reports we hear this morning, we'll see 494 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: we'll see where that goes when we come back after 495 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: three o'clock. I know we're doing something good. Somebody clue 496 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: me in, Oh geez's wrong with me? Well, there's a lot. 497 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: Michael msche USC Professor Newsom is really really scrambling now 498 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: because we've got eight dollars gas looming in our future. 499 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: He knows it. He's frantically trying to react to it, 500 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about it when we come back. 501 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: It's almost funny. Debra Mark Live in the CAFI twenty 502 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John 503 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live 504 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: on KFI AM six forty from one to four pm 505 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand 506 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app