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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam

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Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get into this. Hey guys, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod

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Speaker 2: with myself and Dolores. Dolores, you're back home. Now, you're

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Speaker 2: back home? Right.

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Speaker 3: It felt like I was gone forever. I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: That trip like felt like forever. Yeah, so ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That's done and over with and I can't wait. They

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Speaker 2: both air on Thursday, so we're excited about that.

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Speaker 3: It was quite different than the reunions were used to

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Speaker 3: as you know, you've you've done it, like you told me,

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Speaker 3: you told him everything you told me. He was right.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty civilized, except for you'll see when two

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Speaker 4: of the housewives come out and then it becomes a

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Speaker 4: housewife reunion for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh really, how is Dan Yell?

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Speaker 3: You know, she was really good.

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Speaker 4: She explains why I didn't vote for her, and you'll

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Speaker 4: see there's a big reason behind it.

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Speaker 3: So I was kind of.

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Speaker 4: Glad she did that because I feel like a big

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Speaker 4: asshole this week because people are like, how could you

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Speaker 4: not have voted for her? And I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: because I fell for something that she said to me.

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Speaker 2: But she got me, Yeah, she got Well, she's a

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Speaker 2: good actress. I'll tell you that the way.

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Speaker 4: She talked, she's a really bad actress. The gamers are different,

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Speaker 4: they're cut from a different cloth camera I know one

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Speaker 4: that I wasn't aware of. I mean, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I've I've been around, I've literally worked in a jail.

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Speaker 3: I've sat with prisoners that murdered people, and I still like,

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Speaker 3: probably got more of the truth off of them when

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Speaker 3: they were sitting there, one hundred percent. I did these

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Speaker 3: people live to lie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, manipulate, lie and manipulate.

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Speaker 4: And I just I just wasn't privy to who they

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Speaker 4: going to see. And Andy's like, how could you not

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Speaker 4: have known? I'm like, because I didn't know them before.

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Speaker 4: If I knew Boston Rob took someone to the end

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Speaker 4: and then stabs them in the back in the end,

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Speaker 4: I would have voted for him.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's the problem. We don't know who's going to

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Speaker 2: be there. We don't know their background. Half of them

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I don't I don't watch gaming shows.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big brother.

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Speaker 2: Uh uh huh.

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Speaker 4: So I'll tell you the people that I did know

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Speaker 4: what they were aware of. Like Tom Santaval. Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: was easy to vote for him. I know what he's

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Speaker 4: capable of.

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Speaker 2: He made it so far. I think nobody really thought

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Speaker 2: that Tom was a trader because of that would be

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Speaker 2: totally expected him, you know what I mean, Like it

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Speaker 2: would be too obvious if they put something like a well,

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Speaker 2: let's get into headlines. We have quite a few headlines

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Speaker 2: about Karen, of course, not unexpected. But Karen's full court

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Speaker 2: statement audio released came out and wow. So as Fox

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Speaker 2: five DC released the full audio of Karen's court statement,

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Speaker 2: Karen begins, your honor, I went to apologize for taking

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Speaker 2: this case to trial, but I also want to thank

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Speaker 2: you for allowing me to have the trial. I think

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Speaker 2: in my prior cases, I showed up to court, followed device,

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Speaker 2: the lawyer, got the case resolved, and it went away.

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Speaker 2: I like to think I took the cases seriously, but

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Speaker 2: this certainly has been such a different experience for me,

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Speaker 2: an experience that demanded that I take a look at myself.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it goes on and on, and I don't

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Speaker 3: But it's pretty long. It is pretty long. I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: long with any of it, actually, Like are you I mean,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what she says here, it does not matter.

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Speaker 3: You're going to jail for a year, that's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we'll get into it later. Like

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Speaker 2: all of her statements kind of don't take accountability. And

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Speaker 4: So I've been like talking about that. I worked in

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Speaker 4: there many a time. And the lawyer says, if we

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Speaker 4: and you're going to do like twenty five years. Take

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Speaker 3: And most people go for that. Yeah, most smart people

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Speaker 4: There was no denying what she did. It was not

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Speaker 4: her first defense. Why did she bring this to trial?

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Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. And then at the reunion.

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Speaker 2: They talk about the fact that she was offered a

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Speaker 3: She was offered two plea deals, six months house arrest.

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Speaker 2: Or sixty days in jail.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now she's one year. Do you think she

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Speaker 2: had bad legal counsel?

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Speaker 3: No, I think she was cocky. Yeah. Didn't we hear

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Speaker 3: somewhere that she fired her first attorney? Yep? Yeah, So

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Speaker 4: I hear a lot of people fire their attorneys, and

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Speaker 4: usually it's because they said something that they don't want

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Speaker 3: Most of the time, maybe the guys or the.

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Speaker 4: Man or the woman. Maybe the attorney is just not

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Speaker 4: doing their job. But most people, especially people that aren't accountable,

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Speaker 4: don't want to hear the truth, and that's why they're

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that she gets a help she needs

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Speaker 2: and continues when she gets out of jail, so she.

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Speaker 3: Won't be drinking for a good year now. And I

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Speaker 4: And you know what, Yes, Karen, I'm not shitting on you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not kicking you while you're down. You're gonna you're

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking also at this point, I let me tell you,

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Speaker 4: going because there ain't nothing to do. You're told when

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Speaker 4: do all day. It's not a country club. She's going

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Speaker 4: to a criminal facility. But after watching that reunion, those

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Speaker 3: They show no mercy.

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Speaker 2: Oh that scares me, scares my heart. But so according

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Speaker 2: to court records, Karen was only in rehab for forty

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Speaker 2: I believe she went to a place called Right Turn

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Speaker 2: for forty eight hours. It's a place with rooms meant

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Speaker 2: So the rehab really wasn't a rehab if this is accurate.

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Speaker 3: Was it like a like a prep for where she

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously she knew at that point she was going

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Speaker 3: Is what you expect.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty that's brilliant to be honest, I didn't know

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Speaker 3: Me either, me either. I don't care where she went.

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Speaker 4: Unless they had trained actors and actresses in the room

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Speaker 4: I'm not prepare her for where she's going. No, I

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Speaker 4: didn't give her the cheese sandwich that they serve, the

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, this is just horrible.

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Speaker 4: The government cheese that probably wouldn't melt on an Arizona

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Speaker 2: Like very processed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, that's mm And she's in her sixties.

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Speaker 4: She's in her sixties, so you're not as strong as

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Speaker 3: But hey, you know what, take the year and be

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Speaker 3: glad you didn't kill someone. Yeah, because we could be

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Speaker 3: having a really different conversation right now.

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Speaker 4: That night, that tree, that tree saved her life and

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Speaker 4: someone else's life. So, like I said, this is even

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Speaker 4: the best case scenario all around, because no one got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that she'll get out early?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I do not that early. She'll do some time.

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Speaker 3: She's going to do some time, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sources tell People magazine that production on the Bravo reality

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Speaker 2: show will proceed with the upcoming tenth season as Huger

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Speaker 2: is behind bars. Cameras are expected to pick up officially

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Speaker 2: at the end of March, so they will continue without Karen.

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Speaker 2: If she returns in the future that who knows. I

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Speaker 2: Huger is expected to still be discussed. Of course, she

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Speaker 2: is a sort of still's people. Giselle even told attendees

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Speaker 2: she would be open to film a visit with Karen

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Speaker 2: and Jail. Is that even possible? That ain't happening, right.

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Speaker 4: Not a fucking chance in hell. I didn't think they're

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Speaker 4: Of course, when things happened by that year, does the

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Uh, that's probably just wishful thinking. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 4: Jaselle didn't show any mercy over there.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, when Karen was giving her.

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Speaker 4: So at what Astley say, produced, you know, little speech

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Speaker 4: This is so produced, this is shit. They didn't want

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Speaker 3: They were rough. Let me tell you, that's a rough crew.

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Speaker 4: And if that they talked to each other like that

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Speaker 4: in New Jersey, they would be a fistfight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're absolutely right, because you know, obviously that

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Speaker 2: video that Karen provided was a little cringe. But Giselle,

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Speaker 2: why you want to go smack?

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Speaker 3: And I climbed it.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. Let's move on to the real

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Speaker 2: houses of Beverly Hills. Last Friday they did the reunion.

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Speaker 2: Now they have there's the seating chart. Are you surprised

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Speaker 3: Let's say no, are you? Uh?

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Speaker 2: This is the first time that Jerida has ever had

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Speaker 2: has the first seat. The only thing that I could say.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that should have had the first seat.

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Speaker 2: No, mmm, I'm torn with that. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: Is it warranted? I don't know, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know if it's warranted. I don't know, Hamma, you could

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Speaker 4: I think they showed more of Bo's. I think Bos

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Speaker 2: That puts you on the third seat. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: off with Eddie text Wendy that TJ just dropped a bomb.

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Speaker 2: TJ told Eddie that Stacy paid him to be her

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Speaker 2: Andy says they have it on tape.

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Speaker 3: That's not the only place they have it. There's always

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Speaker 3: There is proof of that. Now.

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Speaker 4: The problem and the big mistake that Stacy made for

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Speaker 3: But this is not going away.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed Stacey and we talked about it, and she

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Speaker 3: He seems like a bitter, little jerk, right.

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Speaker 2: He sounds like a little bitch to me.

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Speaker 4: Little's let me tell you something, any girl that dates him,

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Speaker 4: after they saw what he acted like to her should

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 2: And another question I have was was it a setup?

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Speaker 3: No? I think because the guys are always they become

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Speaker 4: He doesn't say bro, but that's how Frank talks, but

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Speaker 3: It could have been.

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Speaker 2: So then we go on to Mia. Mia is in

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Speaker 2: TJ told him that Stacey paid him and still always

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Speaker 4: She didn't deserve to be spoken to like that. I'm

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Speaker 4: sorry she didn't.

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Speaker 3: Talk to him like that.

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Speaker 4: She doesn't project that like I'll go head to head

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Speaker 2: She claims that he's been her best friend. However, they've

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Speaker 2: telling Sacy to call TJ. Even Andy is how many times?

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Speaker 2: And Andy's like, call TJ, call him clear it up.

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Speaker 2: I personally would have.

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Speaker 3: I would have too. But here's the thing, if I

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, I hate to say that. That

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Speaker 3: I hate to say it. I don't trust that guy.

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Speaker 3: I would have.

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Speaker 2: Lost my shit right there, Camra.

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Speaker 3: There was no reason for her not to call him

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Speaker 4: like you said, Wehn Liza this, or you said and

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Speaker 2: I do think she was afraid of what was going

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Speaker 3: She was afraid of what was going to come out

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Speaker 4: And and he doesn't hold back on what he wants

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Speaker 3: She's afraid of something, She's afraid of something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to say that. Just him doing that,

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Speaker 2: what was his point? How did that make that make him?

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Speaker 2: That makes him look worse?

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Speaker 3: I don't think he cares after he spoke to her

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Speaker 4: Trust that guy well because I don't like the way

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Speaker 2: I think she's very pretty, she's gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: She is absolutely see how much what happens Like I

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 2: Now do you think Mia leaving the reunion early is

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Because you know that's the kiss of death. You

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Speaker 4: Andy doesn't like it, producers don't like it. You got

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Speaker 4: And I'm not so sure that she's cut out for this.

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Speaker 4: She's too unstable.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that, like when you make up

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Speaker 4: Love try and one things your ibs, but you don't

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Speaker 3: See. These are all things that are not normal. Not

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Speaker 2: The control room brings Andy the tape. On the tape,

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Speaker 3: For these things. Yeah, I think the way he said it.

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Speaker 4: The way that he said it was in a way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he went with it.

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Speaker 2: I think he went with it. But the yeah, all

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: They were not believing Stacy. I think Stace, they.

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Speaker 4: Like I look at my show Tamra, not that it's

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Speaker 3: They don't give a they are fucking Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I was paying TJ, I definitely would be

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Speaker 3: So I'm paying for do you mack? You know hopefully

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Speaker 2: Well, if he did, then she's he's screwed, right because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like they're like if she has an attorney involved, clearly

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Speaker 2: Well, she had mentioned that she was going to call

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Speaker 3: paid him or she I think he's.

442
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: Already blown that NDA. He already spoke, so he's already

443
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: in trouble to make it worse. Yeah, I guess.

444
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: So. I'm curious now and I can't wait till the

445
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 4: truth comes out. And you know, the dirty laundry always

446
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 4: comes out in the.

447
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: Wash, it does. I was trolling his Instagram last night.

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: He doesn't he's not very active on Instagram, but I'm like, okay,

449
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: I was fighting. I'm like, I'm like, should I DM them?

450
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Should I say, do you have receipts? Give them to me?

451
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I can't do it. I can't

452
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: do it.

453
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: You think you're the only one that said that.

454
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: I know he's probably up to his ass in fucking

455
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: DM saying send me a receipts.

456
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you who would do it, And that

457
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: was Teddy. She would do it in a heartbeat. She'd

458
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: be like, show me the receipts, dude, I know she would.

459
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 4: Somebody got them and I'm sure I'm sure he yeah,

460
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: but definitely if you're going to open your mouth. That's

461
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 4: why I'm very torn by.

462
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't want the spotlight too. That's the

463
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: whole other thing.

464
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: He liked the spotlight, So would she have to pay

465
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: him to come on because he wanted it so bad?

466
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh, he probably would pay her to be on.

467
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

468
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then Andy asked the woman if they have

469
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: seen karen struggle with the drinking problem. All the women

470
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: say they have. Jacqueline says she was trying to be

471
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: shady with the eight balloons. The woman agree that Karen

472
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: shouldn't have taught taken this case to trial obviously. Stacey

473
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: thinks that Karen didn't remember what happened that night obviously

474
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: because she was drunk. Wendy says Karen tried to get

475
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: the bodycam footage thrown out. Gazelle says Karen pushed the

476
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: trial because she didn't want to take any deal. Big

477
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: giant mistake not taking the deal.

478
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you.

479
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: Know, she she had a sense of entitlement. What she

480
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: said in her statement, she has gotten away with it

481
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: in the past, which we all know.

482
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: But I mean, just well, listen, doesn't matter now she's

483
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: got it.

484
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

485
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: It just doesn't. And who's the person in the car?

486
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?

487
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: There was somebody in that car. Now, do you really

488
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: believe Karen didn't watch that body cam footage.

489
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 4: I do because I don't like sometimes watching things that

490
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: I feel like I look stupid on.

491
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: But you know, her attorney watched it, So if her

492
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: attorney watched it, I believe she didn't watch it until

493
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: she had to.

494
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: I absolutely believe.

495
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: That you might be right, because I don't even like

496
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: to watch myself on housewives. I don't listen to the podcast.

497
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: I hate my voice, so I can't get that. But

498
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: she watched it when she had to.

499
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: She I definitely didn't. I can't even imagine. She's like,

500
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that person. I bet you didn't.

501
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she even said in the footage, the body

502
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: cam footage, something about somebody leaving the car. Now, there's

503
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: been rumors for years. She has a sideboyfriend. Could they

504
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: call him blue eyes?

505
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: Blue Eyes? Yeah?

506
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: So now let me ask you. Did she want to

507
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: say that somebody was in the car so she wouldn't

508
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: take the fall for it.

509
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: That could have been it too. That could have been

510
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: it too.

511
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: Somebody else was in that car and driving. Where did

512
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: they go? Bullshit?

513
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could have been what she was trying to do. Basically,

514
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: say that somebody else was driving, because by the time

515
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: the cops get there, I don't know where she was,

516
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 2: if she was still in her seat, was she out?

517
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: What was going on?

518
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 4: She was blacked out before she hit the tree, so

519
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: she was out. That's what she said. She was blacked

520
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 4: out before she hit the tree. And I don't think

521
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 4: anybody was with her. And the people whose house or

522
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 4: wherever she was by who let her drive?

523
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. If somebody was in the car

524
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: with her too, like, why would you let her drive?

525
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: Now?

526
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: Ashley says the night after Karen's accident, a journalist text

527
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: her and said that there was a person in the

528
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: car of Karen and they were the person driving. Now,

529
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't think I believe that.

530
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Then why is Karen going to jail? Then? Why is Karen?

531
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: There was no.

532
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: One investigation done? Yeah, she said that.

533
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: What happened was the blogger watched the tape.

534
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 4: Do you know when a cop pulls you over with

535
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: a bodycam, you can just email them and you get

536
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: the body cam footage immediately.

537
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.

538
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: Everybody. You could get anyone's bodycam footage. You can get anything.

539
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: If you know an instant that happened. You email the

540
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: police department. It is public. Whatever you want, you get it.

541
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: Somebody's calling names about something. Pull texts someone voice text

542
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: and because of his accent, it said I want to

543
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: kill you or something. And he didn't even And the

544
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: guy went to the cops about it. Cold Pull an asshole,

545
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: sad he's looking. So my brother, who's the cop, goes,

546
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: you know, you could get the body cam footage, so

547
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: he did and we heard everything the guy said about us.

548
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, Well, Giselle said, Karen was offered two deals,

549
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: like we said earlier, the sixty days or the house arrest,

550
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: which she screwed up. Now the flashback of Karen telling

551
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: Ashley clankity clank that did not age well at all.

552
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: Karma, what did actually say? Karma's her friends, karmas my friends,

553
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: and she always sticks up for me. You know That's

554
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: why I'm saying now. And I don't drink and I

555
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: don't plan on drunk driving. I don't kick people when

556
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: they're down, because it's like spitting in the wind.

557
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: You know, you just listen. She made a mistake. We

558
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: could talk about it, we could say how stupid it was,

559
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 4: and everything else. But I'm not getting excited about it

560
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: for her.

561
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Right right. I mean, I could see this is not

562
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: her first one, this is her fourth one. So I

563
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: could see the girls getting very annoyed and agitated with

564
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: her because she wouldn't take responsibility. It was never du why,

565
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: it was never about drinking and driving. It was always

566
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: the accident. So to me, that would drive me crazy

567
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: filming with something like that. I know, I'm like, just

568
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: take ownership of what you did.

569
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: You have no choice, I know.

570
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: But then Andy Show's never before seen footage of Karen

571
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: a day before she left her rehab, which wasn't really

572
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: rehabs what we're hearing. I feel like the entire scene

573
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: was one big cover up. It didn't feel authentic at all.

574
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: It felt staged. I think that she, you know, first

575
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: of all, her biggest mistake is being all made up

576
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: and glamorous and laying on the bed the way she was.

577
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: You know, hellos were beautiful, rhyingtone pillows.

578
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: I know, I'm like a little more humble, just I

579
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: think this would have been a time to be a

580
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: little bit more.

581
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: I would have been sitting at the kitchen table with

582
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: my head down. Yes, so ashamed saying I screwed up.

583
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: I am sorry, and I have to I have to

584
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: pay for it. This is what I gotta do. And

585
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: everyone would respect that.

586
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: They would that people. That's what I say this all

587
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: the time. We all fuck up and we all do it.

588
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: But when you own it, it.

589
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: Goes goes away. It goes away. Now easier said than done,

590
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: easier said. And that's I think what they were trying

591
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: to tell.

592
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: Stacy last night, like just call him whatever, he says,

593
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: own it if you did it, because you we're gonna

594
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: find out. He can have twenty five thousand NDAs you know,

595
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: there's a saying in my family, two can keep a

596
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: secret if one is dead. It's coming out, coming out.

597
00:29:51,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming out. So in this little interview that

598
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: she did in her bedroom with her husband, Karen says

599
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: she didn't watch the tapes before the trial and that

600
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: she didn't recognize herself in the footage. Karen says she

601
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: started self medicating seven years ago when her parents died.

602
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Karen says the night she drank champagne after upping her medication.

603
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Karen says she never drinks and drives because she has

604
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: a driver. Ray says that's When the blue Eye rumor started,

605
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: Giselle tells Andy to turn off the footage. Ashley says,

606
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: it's performative. Karen says, what happened to her was self

607
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: inflicted and she's going away for herself, not court ordered.

608
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, she really covered all her bases, Like the

609
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: girl said, her drinking, the Blue Eyes, the six million crashes,

610
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: but I self medicated zero pay well, she kept blaming medication.

611
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: See it's such a small fucking world. Ashley's on the

612
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: train coming to New York, sitting next.

613
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: To some guy. You know, she's talking. She tells her

614
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: business to everybody.

615
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: And she's talking and the guy's like, oh, let me see,

616
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, I know this woman from Legal

617
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: Seafood and she would come and drink all day long.

618
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: She is an alcoholic. She will always be an alcoholic.

619
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean all we can wish for is

620
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: that from now on, like she gets the help she needs.

621
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: She gets the help she needs, and that's not going.

622
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: To be fun for her. And when she gets out

623
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: that she continues with her sobriety because.

624
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: AA is going to be a part of her life.

625
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: That's damn straight, it is. And you're going to go

626
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: there every day.

627
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: I don't care if you don't take a drink for

628
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: twenty five years, you're going to stand up in that

629
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: meeting and you're going to say I'm an alcoholic.

630
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Yep. And like you said, Ashley and Wendy and I

631
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: think Giselle all said that. You know, the talk around

632
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: the town is that she does hang out at bars

633
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: and she drinks all day. Andy asks the woman what

634
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: they think will happen to her and sentencing, Gizelle says,

635
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: you can't wear a wig in jail. Gazelle says going

636
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: in jail at sixty something years old is a problem

637
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 2: and it won't go well well. Like I said earlier,

638
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't think wigless Karen is the biggest problem there.

639
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: She's used to.

640
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if she's ever known what it's like

641
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: to rough it. I don't know where she comes from.

642
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what she's like, but but I don't

643
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: know what.

644
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: Her bringing gump was like.

645
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: So you know, there's no rhyanstone pillows in jail, there's

646
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: no accommodations, there's nothing. There's nothing comfortable, which is what

647
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: she's used to. I you know, I mean, I don't

648
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: know if you can go back to your roots. It's

649
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: been a long time since I've had to rough it

650
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: about anything.

651
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

652
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 4: But but but you kind of can always like go

653
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: go and tap that, like okay, I did this once before.

654
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: I didn't come. I don't know how she's going to

655
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: handle where she's going.

656
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you, I we can't. So

657
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: but it's an r V. I couldn't imagine. I'm like clusterrophobic,

658
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: so I couldn't imagine just being in sell and then

659
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 2: not to mention I got a bad back. I couldn't

660
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: lay on that cot. It would kill me.

661
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: I would have to, but you would have to, and well, listen,

662
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: she's gonna have to. It's gonna be survival.

663
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: That's it.

664
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: M M. That's rough. That takes me back to like

665
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: remember when the Chrislies were put in jail and they're

666
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: still in jail. It's been years, They're going to be

667
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: there for a long time.

668
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm crazy.

669
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: But that's also a different jail. Yeah, that's more of

670
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: a that's the country club.

671
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: So oh is it a more of a country club?

672
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

673
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: I thought it wasn't I.

674
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Think so I could be wrong. But I think so

675
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: because that was fed federal. Oh that was taxes, right, yeah, taxes.

676
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: So Andy thinks the women as they wrap and Stacy

677
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: says she lost her best friend today, and Wendy says.

678
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: She clocked me her friend.

679
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Wendy said she clocked Mia before

680
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: anybody during MIA's first season when she lied about her age,

681
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: Mia be lying since the beginning. It sounds like.

682
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 4: I've clocked Mia from the minute I looked at her.

683
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 2: So okay, I just I would be okay if Mia

684
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: wasn't back next season.

685
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: I think it's in everybody's best interest for Mea to

686
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 4: go get help and work on herself and be the

687
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: best version of herself for her children. MM, because you

688
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: know we have the little ones. We gotta work like

689
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: it's not just about you. You can't go go when

690
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: you become a mother. You can't keep going fucking up

691
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: your life and not fixing what's broken. You got to

692
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: fix it as much as you can exactly.

693
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: So, like we said, a source confirmed that they'll start

694
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: filming season ten pretty soon.

695
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Here.

696
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Do you think that they will bring in Robin or

697
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Candace next year? I miss them both.

698
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: I love Robin, I love Robin. I don't know Kansas

699
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: very well. I've metaged. She was lovely when I met her. Yeah,

700
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: but I was just that Traders with Robin.

701
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love her. I think she's she's going to

702
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: be back.

703
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: I feel like she don't play either.

704
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: She'll call you, she doesn't. The Ultimate Girls Trip Traders,

705
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: they kind of revive, you know, like, oh my god,

706
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: we need her back on the show. So yeah, I

707
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: think so. We have a few fan thoughts. Season was good,

708
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: but reunion was great. All great, thought great, great? Why

709
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: are these women so quick to believe a terrible man

710
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: like TJ.

711
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 4: Over over Stacy. Yeah, well, hey, listen, they don't like Stacy,

712
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: so that's whine.

713
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just feel like Stacy didn't do herself any justice.

714
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: She could have gotten a little upset like she did

715
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: at Karen and be like, yeah, I'd show me the receipts.

716
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: But she didn't do that. But you know what, everybody

717
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: deals with things differently. Karen messed up, but she gave

718
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: us nine years of great TV. We'll miss her next season.

719
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: And then this person thinks that Stacy is a liar.

720
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: She might be.

721
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: She might very well be, because she didn't make that

722
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: call because I think that if she called them, he

723
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: would have said. If he didn't say, yeah, I have

724
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 4: the receipts and yes you did, he could have said

725
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: other things like I was saying before, Like you could

726
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: have said, yo, why don't you tell Wendy what you

727
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: think of her?

728
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: Why don't you tell this one?

729
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: And then somebody said Karen has bigger issues and we

730
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: know yes, And then somebody said what I said, please

731
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: let it be a rap on Mia Mia bye bye.

732
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I could see that.

733
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: I could definitely say that. But I see Karen coming back.

734
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: Why hundred thousand.

735
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: Thousand percent she's coming back. There's no I mean, I

736
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: hear that jen Shaw's coming back.

737
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: One hundred thousand her son, jen Shaw is coming back

738
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: because there's she's she's good with Meredith.

739
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I am hearing. I don't know. This is

740
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: could be a rumor, but that's.

741
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: Like what seven years she's doing, Like jen Shaw's got

742
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: gone away for a bit.

743
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think she's out maybe next August or

744
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't I can't remember what it was. Twenty twenty five,

745
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: early twenty six, I can't remember.

746
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six.

747
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, could you imagine we're talking about jail

748
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: terms for housewives, like what is going on here?

749
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like it. To be honest with you,

750
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

751
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: I don't like it either. I don't want to see it.

752
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: It hurts my heart. I don't want to see it.

753
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: I'm very sorry for these people, whatever mess they got them,

754
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: and these.

755
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: Were these are self induced. Now when we talk about Teresa,

756
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: her ax husband did that to her, so that I'm

757
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: not even throwing her in that group.

758
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: Listen, we are no different than anybody else and should

759
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: not be treated any different than anyone else. And by

760
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: the way, no.

761
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: No, I know we all make mistakes and it's how

762
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: we deal with them and how we write out of

763
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: it right.

764
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: And what I don't understand is where were the people

765
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: in Karen's life. And I've said this before. My family

766
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: would be banging down my fucking door one day one

767
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: day in me what Karen was doing every day, and

768
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: there wouldn't be one person that wouldn't have put me

769
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: in my place, or put me in a rehab, had

770
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: me kidnapped, if they had to to put me away.

771
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: It's very sad that I got that far.

772
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even like my daughter and my husband

773
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: right now, are on me because when I get sad,

774
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: I like shut down. Like I could sit in the

775
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: seat all day long and just my whole body shuts down.

776
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: And I'm like that too.

777
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: I get consumed with things. It's like I usually work

778
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: out every day. I haven't been consistent in three weeks,

779
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: you know, and then I got filming on top of that,

780
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: and I'm letting everything with filming really hurt me. And

781
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: they're like, you need to snap out of this. You

782
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: need to get your ass up. You need there's a

783
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: part of you. You need to take care of yourself.

784
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: Here's the thing camera you also deserve to. You're going

785
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: through a lot, and you're watching somebody you love go

786
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: through a lot right now, and and you.

787
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: Know, sometimes you just need that.

788
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: Everyone beats the shit out of us because we're usually tough,

789
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: and they're like, snap out of it. You know, I'm

790
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna cut you a break right now and

791
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: say take your time.

792
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna need it.

793
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm trying through a lot, you're filming, You're doing this.

794
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: You know, filming isn't easy. I heard the seasons a

795
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: little bit kooky, Yeah, crazy.

796
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't have the energy that I don't have the

797
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: mind space. And when things like this are going on

798
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: in your real life, like it's too much, it's.

799
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: Too so much, so you shut down because that's that's

800
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 4: your body's way of dealing with it. Yeah, shutting down,

801
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: So shut down.

802
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: All you want, kid.

803
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to snap out of it. I'm trying,

804
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: but you know what it is, what it is. But

805
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: thank you so much.

806
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: You're doing a great job. Thank you, Yes, thank you.

807
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: I look forward to our chats.

808
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: I really, I know I do too amazing.

809
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: Well, go break a leg, okay, I will.

810
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: I'm off to LA for a meeting, so I will.

811
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you very soon.

812
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: Okay. I'm going to go get my computer fixed so

813
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: then I'm ready for you.

814
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Oh good, that's a good idea. Okay, bye bye