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<v Speaker 1>iPhone gets a lockdown mode, excellent earbuds for just forty bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite video editing apps, plus your tech questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro and this is Rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech, the podcast where I talk about the tech

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<v Speaker 1>stuff I think you should know about, and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>place where I answer the questions you sent me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. Hope you're having a fantastic week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording the podcast just depends how I'm feeling if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to live stream it or not. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more pressure with the live stream because you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see people coming in and out, maybe people

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<v Speaker 1>are clapping whatever they're doing. But the reality is it's

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<v Speaker 1>just me and you for the next hour here, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is important. All right, let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>new lockdown mode on iOS sixteen. This is for the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a mode on the iPhone you probably

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<v Speaker 1>will never have to use, but it is in extreme

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<v Speaker 1>security mode. Do you remember back in the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was President Obama who had a BlackBerry for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and everyone was kind of giving him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of grief because it's like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>get an iPhone. And then it came out that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just give the president an iPhone because of the

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<v Speaker 1>security implications of the iPhone. Now, eventually that changed, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we lessened the security on the

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<v Speaker 1>president's phone or we just decided it was fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we do know that presidents, I think even

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<v Speaker 1>Obama towards the end, and we know other presidents have

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<v Speaker 1>had the iPhone, so I guess now it's fine. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is if you are a journal or a dissident,

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<v Speaker 1>or an activist, or a head of state or someone

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<v Speaker 1>with a high net worth, you are targeted all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're targeted by malware, by spyware, by governments trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get in on your phone. There's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>threat levels that you are exposed to. And so Apple

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<v Speaker 1>knows this. For the average person, I mean, we always

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<v Speaker 1>hear about security with the phones, but the reality is,

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<v Speaker 1>for the average person, the biggest security risk is themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is because they may click on a link

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<v Speaker 1>that either tries to steal their information via phishing. In

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<v Speaker 1>the worst case scenario, it may download malware to your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is like very very small chance, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the way the architecture of the iPhone is designed. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just really really tough to do, but it happens. And

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<v Speaker 1>so now this new lockdown mode is to gear towards

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<v Speaker 1>protecting a very small number of users who may be

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<v Speaker 1>a risk of a highly targeted cyber attack. And the

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<v Speaker 1>feature is going to be built into iOS sixteen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be built into the iPad and the

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<v Speaker 1>new mac os Ventura. Right now, it's in the betas,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be in maybe not the public beta, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure, but it will be in the final version

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<v Speaker 1>that's released in the fall. So lockdown mode is turned

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<v Speaker 1>off by default. You can enable it in the Privacy

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<v Speaker 1>and Security section. And once it's turned on, here's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Messages app most message attachments will be blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>In coming FaceTime calls from people who don't know those

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<v Speaker 1>will be blocked. Web browsing will be impacted. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the JavaScript type things, anything that requires a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of extra things to run on the web browser.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be blocked. Shared albums on the photos app

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<v Speaker 1>will be blocked when the device is in lockdown. Wired

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<v Speaker 1>connections will be blocked or I guess when the device

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<v Speaker 1>is locked, but they do that anyway. Figuration profiles will

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<v Speaker 1>be not accessible. So the phone kind of becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>very basic device that you can use to make and

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<v Speaker 1>receive phone calls, and nothing can sort of make its

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<v Speaker 1>way onto that device. So whether it's you know, spyware, malware,

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of key loggers, whatever that these organizations might

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<v Speaker 1>be using to spy, it just won't be possible to

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<v Speaker 1>put that on the iPhone. And so again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that not a lot of people need, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>really really smart that Apple has this mode on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone because if someone needs this, it is available, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's available quickly, simply, and it's accessible to everyone from

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<v Speaker 1>a person who's just speaking out against their government to

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is, you know whatever, I mean, any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of situation you're in, maybe you're in a country that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't feel safe in and you're worried about spying,

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<v Speaker 1>you can act this mode. So again iOS sixteen lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>mode coming in the fall on the iPhone. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to the first question comes from Dave. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Dave. It appeals. It appears my email

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<v Speaker 1>has been compromised. I'm getting a ton of emails from

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<v Speaker 1>people that I don't know, who seem to think that

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<v Speaker 1>I've sent them a scamming type of email. I've placed

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<v Speaker 1>a complaint with the FTC, but I haven't received any

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<v Speaker 1>type of help from them stopping the emails I'm getting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect them to stop them. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>you know of that I can do? Any help would

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<v Speaker 1>be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Dave. Dave, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>your email account was hacked or compromised. Most likely just compromised,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, Uh, probably in one of two ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Either I'm guessing that and I don't want to place

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<v Speaker 1>the blame on you, but I'm guessing that at some

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<v Speaker 1>point you clicked a link and logged in with your

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<v Speaker 1>email or handed over your password unwillingly or I should

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<v Speaker 1>say unwittingly, like you didn't know this was happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>once they got a hold of your email, they then

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<v Speaker 1>turned your email into a bot account that would then

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<v Speaker 1>send out emails on your behalf with spammy messages and

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why they do that is because when hackers

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<v Speaker 1>get a hold of your email account, that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>email account, and so the chances that your email will

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<v Speaker 1>go through the spam filters on Gmail and Outlook and

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo and all these other things is pretty good because

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<v Speaker 1>your email account has a track record of being legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they use that to their advantage. So what

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<v Speaker 1>can you do, Well, what you need to do is

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<v Speaker 1>change your password immediately, if that's even possible. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can still try to log in from a web page,

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<v Speaker 1>log in, change your password, and then I would go

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<v Speaker 1>in and set up two factor authentication. You're emailing me

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<v Speaker 1>from an att dot net email address. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the one that got compromised, but if it is,

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<v Speaker 1>a just definitely go in, try to change the password,

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<v Speaker 1>turn on two factor authentication, and then the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I would do, and you're gonna have to search to

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<v Speaker 1>see how to do this is what's called log out

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<v Speaker 1>of all active devices. So most of the systems these days,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the big social media companies, the apps, the

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<v Speaker 1>email the Googles of the world, they have provisions for

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<v Speaker 1>helping you log out of any device that you've previously

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<v Speaker 1>authorized and then what that does is it triggers a

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<v Speaker 1>new authorization. So to understand this better, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>log into your email on your computer at work, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say you're your personal account. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have to log into that every single day when

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<v Speaker 1>you come into work. Maybe once every couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It might ask you to reauthorize your password, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, you just sit down, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Gmail dot com and it's already logged in somehow magically.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're doing that with a combination of cookies and

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<v Speaker 1>also so some sort of algorithm security that they have built, saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like this is pretty secure, seems like there's

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<v Speaker 1>not anything weird happening on this computer. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>allow this connection until we think that something changes. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of that manual change that I talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>if you trigger that, it's something that will log out.

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<v Speaker 1>It sends a little notice to all these systems that

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<v Speaker 1>are logged in, saying the next time someone tries to

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<v Speaker 1>use this account, ask them for their password again. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this on Netflix, you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>on I believe Google. I know you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>on their Apple you can log out devices, so basically

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<v Speaker 1>you want to look for a functionality to log out

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<v Speaker 1>all active devices. Sometimes you can even see a list

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<v Speaker 1>of these devices, but that is probably what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Dave, to reclaim this email. If it's an

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<v Speaker 1>email that you don't really care about anymore, you can

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<v Speaker 1>delete the account completely. But it depends what type of

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<v Speaker 1>account you're using. But that's what I would recommend. This

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<v Speaker 1>happens every day. Don't use the same path word over

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<v Speaker 1>and over. That's number one. Definitely use a password manager

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, and use two factor authentication on every

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<v Speaker 1>single account that you can think of that supports it,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just two factor. But I would use an

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<v Speaker 1>app to generate the authentication codes. I would not just

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<v Speaker 1>send them to your text message because phone numbers can

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<v Speaker 1>be compromised and it's much more secure to do it

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<v Speaker 1>to an app. And I know this stuff is so

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<v Speaker 1>it's so complicated, and I think I talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in when I came back from my trip,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I was in New Jersey just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dealing with my family and watching how they deal

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<v Speaker 1>with stuff. And it's a real struggle for people with

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<v Speaker 1>these passwords and with the security. I mean, people stay

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<v Speaker 1>logged in on a computer and if that thing gets

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<v Speaker 1>logged out, like their entire world goes away because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whether where their password is and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to get back in, or they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>which email address they used, or they don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they saved it. I mean, it's pretty wild how loosey

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<v Speaker 1>goosey people are with this password and security stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just to me, I don't get it. I do

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<v Speaker 1>get it, because there have been times when I've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to quickly log into a website where I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>just throw all caution into the wind and say all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just use whatever, and then I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and say, no, wait, what's the repercussion of

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<v Speaker 1>this later? Later? Yeah, it's going to be easy for

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<v Speaker 1>me to log in, but if I don't take good

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<v Speaker 1>notes and if I don't put down the information that

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<v Speaker 1>I need later, it's going to come back to bite me.

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<v Speaker 1>And so good example, I was trying to log into

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. We set up like a frequent flyer account

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<v Speaker 1>for him when he was born and we've been using

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<v Speaker 1>it ever since, and I was like, oh, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>how many miles my kid has racked up in this account?

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<v Speaker 1>And sure enough, I went into my password manager and

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<v Speaker 1>I had no recollection of I had his password. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>because it had been so long, that I logged in

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<v Speaker 1>and asked me for his security questions, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't come up with the answers because I never

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<v Speaker 1>use real answers for security questions because that's too obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always make up answers or use answers that

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<v Speaker 1>are not true. But you have to keep track of

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<v Speaker 1>those answers because the problem is when you come back

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<v Speaker 1>to answer those, they're not the true answers, Like what's

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<v Speaker 1>the color of the house you grew up in? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I use that when someone could look up the

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<v Speaker 1>house I grew up on Google Maps and see what

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<v Speaker 1>color it is. And now Google Maps let's you go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time, so you could just go back in

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<v Speaker 1>time and see all the different colors of that house

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. So my advice is to actually use

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<v Speaker 1>another generated password in place of these answers. Now, not

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<v Speaker 1>every website lets you put in your own answer, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them do. Some of them make you

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<v Speaker 1>select them. If they make you select them, just select

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<v Speaker 1>a random answer. I usually take a screenshot of that

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<v Speaker 1>and then I will put that in a secure place,

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<v Speaker 1>or I will write down the question and answers in

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<v Speaker 1>my password manager in the notes section. Of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>did neither of that, so I had to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the answers to these questions, which was not easy. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's my advice. But you got to just keep on

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<v Speaker 1>top of this stuff. I know it's complicated, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pain, but it's I'm telling you, just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes of time on the front end, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>save you a lot of headaches on the back end.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about these forty dollars earbuds. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had these forty dollars one plus earbuds sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>my house for I don't know, a couple weeks at

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<v Speaker 1>least maybe a month or two before I got around

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing them. Because they're earbuds, I get sent so many

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<v Speaker 1>earbuds and ninety nine percent of the time I put

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<v Speaker 1>them in my ears for about ten seconds and I say, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>these are not the ones, and that's it. Now. These

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<v Speaker 1>I put in my ears after I got back from Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>and I meant to take them to Rome, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to test them on the trip because I

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<v Speaker 1>needed noise cancelation earbuds, so I waited till I got back.

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<v Speaker 1>I put them my ears. I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try these for a workout. Immediately as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I put them my ears. There's certain types of

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<v Speaker 1>earbuds that when you put them in, they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like magnetically attached to your ears. I'm not saying with magnets,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just feel like they just fit so perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not going to come out, and I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good first sign. Then they were easy to pair.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have fast pairing, but they were easy to

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<v Speaker 1>pair because they have a little button on the back

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<v Speaker 1>and they were paired in seconds. And the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm playing music, it sounds good, I'm working out.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't fall out of my ears, and I'm just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm onto something here. I think these are

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<v Speaker 1>a winner. And so I kept using them for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and then I did an interview with someone

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<v Speaker 1>at nine to five Google who also reviewed them, and

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<v Speaker 1>he agreed that he really liked them and didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to like them because of the price tag, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the OnePlus Nord buds are a winner. Forty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and what do you get? You get simple wireless earbuds.

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<v Speaker 1>They come in a case that is definitely an odd shape.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit bulky, it's a little bit not

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ergonomic in your hands, but it works. It

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<v Speaker 1>charges the earbuds. You get seven hours on a charge

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<v Speaker 1>and then thirty hours if you include the case, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good charge. Then you also have USB

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<v Speaker 1>C on the back, which I like. So they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put the micro USB C or micro USB which some

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually happening a lot less. But you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one way that manufacturers can be a little cheap with things.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else unique design. They've got tappable areas

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<v Speaker 1>on the side so you can play, skip and pause

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<v Speaker 1>your music. They're comfortable, Like I said, they stay in

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<v Speaker 1>your ears. There's four microphones total for high quality phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a phone call to my brother. He said

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded excellent, so as opposed to sometimes when I

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<v Speaker 1>call him when I'm testing earbuds, and he said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you in a cave right now? He said, none

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<v Speaker 1>of that the sound is excellent. Like I said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no sensor, so when you pull all these out of

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<v Speaker 1>your ears, I've gotten so used to these sensors on

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<v Speaker 1>all these earbuds that will play and pause music. That

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<v Speaker 1>did not happen this time because these don't have those

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<v Speaker 1>built in sensors, so you will have to do that manually.

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<v Speaker 1>The music sounds good. It's not the best sounding earbuds

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever tested, but again, forty dollars, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>what you pay for. You get a lot of features

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<v Speaker 1>for this forty dollars. They're good for just everyday use.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not recommend these if you are traveling with

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<v Speaker 1>them on a plane because they don't block out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of exterior sound. They do block out some because

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of seal up your ears, which typically I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like. But these are totally comfortable. But they're good

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<v Speaker 1>for music, good for phone calls, good for exercising. They're

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<v Speaker 1>on sale now again. They're called the one plus nord Buds.

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<v Speaker 1>They only come in one color, black slate. They're on

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<v Speaker 1>sale at Amazon and OnePlus website. Personally, i'd get them

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<v Speaker 1>from Amazon just because they're easy to return if you

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<v Speaker 1>end up not liking them, but we did feature them

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<v Speaker 1>on KTLA, so they were sold out out after about

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds. So of course I put them on TV

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<v Speaker 1>in the five am hour, and I immediately got the

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<v Speaker 1>emails from people saying you can't purchase them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look Amazon, they restock stuff pretty quickly. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume these will be restocked, so I would just continue

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of monitor there. But you can also buy

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<v Speaker 1>them from the OnePlus website as well. I've I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that purchase experience is like for these, but

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<v Speaker 1>it says it's free shipping, so I don't know, Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take your chances there. But again, one plus nord Buds,

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<v Speaker 1>nord is sort of their inexpensive line of phones, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Nord is, I guess just their budget stuff in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love the one plus What were they the

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<v Speaker 1>one plus buds pro last year, but those were closer

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and something dollars. These are like forty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding. Really really great deal for inexpensive headphones,

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<v Speaker 1>so go check them out. I'll put the line in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. Brenda says, Rich, I'm hoping you have

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<v Speaker 1>some suggestions. My eighty eight year old father keeps falling

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<v Speaker 1>for scams on his computer. He has a PC. Originally

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping he wouldn't need an email, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how the scams get him. Trying to find out if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good computer printal lock or something I could

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<v Speaker 1>do to protect him. I'm going to get him a

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<v Speaker 1>new Gmail account, and I didn't know if I should

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<v Speaker 1>get him a Chromebook or any computer. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't worded very well, but I think you could understand

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm asking for. Thank you so much, Brenda, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Your dad keeps falling for the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>tricks in the book, which these scam artists have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>very very good at. The phishing scams, the Amazon emails,

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<v Speaker 1>the emails that want your phone number and your address

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<v Speaker 1>and your logins and oh, your Gmail account is messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many scams out there. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them have to do with phishing, which they send

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<v Speaker 1>an email that looks like it's something legitimate, and next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you know, you log in and your account is cut,

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<v Speaker 1>or they ask you to send them gift cards, or

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<v Speaker 1>they want you to put in your credit card number

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<v Speaker 1>so you can fix something, whatever it is. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>all out there. It's happening every single day. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the elderly, less tech savvy, or anyone honestly can fall

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<v Speaker 1>for these scams given the right circumstances. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>give the example of our banks. So banks like to

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<v Speaker 1>send a lot of emails and text nowadays with fraud alerts.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey did you just use your credit card? Here? Press

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<v Speaker 1>one or reply one to say yes, reply to to

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<v Speaker 1>say no. Hey, we're just confirming that you purchase this,

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<v Speaker 1>or hey, your your membership is confirmed. Click here to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, check out the details whatever. Anyone can fall

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<v Speaker 1>for this stuff, and it's just a matter of taking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a pause. And in fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna quote from this website that I'm going to refer

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<v Speaker 1>you to scamspotter dot org. So here are the three

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<v Speaker 1>golden rules of scams. Number one, slow it down. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the website, scammers often create a sense of urgency

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<v Speaker 1>so they can bypass your better instincts. Take your time

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<v Speaker 1>and ask questions to avoid being rushed into a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you need to act fast, just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, spot check do your research to This is

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<v Speaker 1>again from the website scamspotter dot org. Do your research

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<v Speaker 1>to double check the details you're getting. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>an unexpected phone call, hang up, look up the bank,

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<v Speaker 1>the agency, or the organization that's supposedly calling, and get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with them directly. The IRS does not call you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your phone company does not call you. Your bank does

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<v Speaker 1>not call you, your Google does not call you, the whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon does not call you. These companies rarely call, and

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<v Speaker 1>they rarely call and ask for immediate action. Number three, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>don't send. No reputable person or agency will ever demand

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<v Speaker 1>payment on the spot. Often scammers tell you to go

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<v Speaker 1>buy gift cards, which are meant to be given as

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<v Speaker 1>a gift, not as payment under a threat. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you think something feels fishy, it probably is. Do not

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>send gift cards. So it's at Target the other day

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<v Speaker 1>they have a signed by the gift card section that says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're buying this gift card to send us a

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<v Speaker 1>payment to someone, don't do it. I don't even understand

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<v Speaker 1>how someone could fall for that, but again I'm not judging.

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<v Speaker 1>People do. And what they do is they make you

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<v Speaker 1>scratch off the back of the gift card, read them

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers and the code and they use that gift

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<v Speaker 1>card instantly, it's untraceable, it's done, it's fast, your money's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>They they get the money, and you never hear from

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<v Speaker 1>them again. So again, the website I would show your

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<v Speaker 1>dad is scamspotder dot org. Watch the little videos with him,

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<v Speaker 1>take the quizzes, and share this with your friends, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, it's just really, really a wild West

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>out there on the internet. And you're sitting here listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast. You're a little bit more tech savvy

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<v Speaker 1>than the average person, telling you. People fall for this

0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff every single day. Smart people. I get the emails.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, parents of people, siblings of people, friends of people,

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<v Speaker 1>regular people. You don't have to be quote unquote stupid

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to fall for this stuff. You don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>uneducated to fall for this stuff. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a human being that is highly, highly targeted with

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<v Speaker 1>these social engineering scams. These scam artists spend all day

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with ways of getting stuff from us, and

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<v Speaker 1>believe me, it just takes one tiny little mishap for

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<v Speaker 1>it to happen to you. So you know, don't laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>but really feel for these people, because it's really sad

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<v Speaker 1>when a kid talks to their parent, and their parents

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<v Speaker 1>starts telling them something and you're like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you were totally scammed. And we've all been scammed in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives in so many little ways. I told the story,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I didn't tell it here, but I told

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how you know, we ate it at

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<v Speaker 1>a tourist trap in Rome because we were hungry, we

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<v Speaker 1>were tired, we were hot, we were sweaty. We just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sit down and eat. And we sat at

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant that was totally just kind of a tourist trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Food was overpriced, food was not very good. Did it

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<v Speaker 1>ruin our lives? No? Would I say I was scammed? Yeap,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of. I mean the person give us a good,

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<v Speaker 1>a good spiel about why we should eat there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did. You know, you spend a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>money than you should on something, You get a dent

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<v Speaker 1>removed by someone, you know, whatever. We get scammed all

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<v Speaker 1>the time in lots of little waste. Does it always

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<v Speaker 1>ruin our lives, No, but it happens. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could get over sold on something, you could pay

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<v Speaker 1>more than you should for something. It's just it happens

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<v Speaker 1>in lots of little ways, so just be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>it and try to help people when you can. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime new benefit you get a year worth of

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<v Speaker 1>grub Hub Plus. Grub Hub Plus is their subscription. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you call membership. So if you basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have Amazon Prime, you can go to a

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<v Speaker 1>website and sign up for a free year of Grubhub Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't use grubhub, so I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how good Grubhub Plus is, but I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>get discounts on things, you get free delivery on things,

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<v Speaker 1>or reduced delivery fees on orders that are like over

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<v Speaker 1>twelve dollars. But here's a reality. If you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>saving money in any possible way with any food delivery service,

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you are absolutely just out of your mind right now.

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Because food delivery is not cheap. It is not a

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<v Speaker 1>deal it is It's never going to be a better

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<v Speaker 1>deal than going and picking up the food yourself or

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<v Speaker 1>cooking at home. Now, with that said, is it convenient,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is it nice to have, Yes, But to

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're saving money somehow even with one of

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>these Grubhub Plus memberships, you're not. You're gonna be spending

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<v Speaker 1>more on delivery because you actually have this member. Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>knows that, Grubhub knows that. Why do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>offering it to you for free? Now, with all that said, yes,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I have Door Dash whatever they call it, dash Pass.

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<v Speaker 1>It's included in my credit card, so I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I spend money on it once in a while? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Is it more expensive than buying salads that

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<v Speaker 1>I can go and make myself or pick up? Absolutely?

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Was it really convenient the other night when I just

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted dinner fast on the table, when I was just

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>home with the kids by myself. Sure? Did I overspend

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 1>on salads? Of course I did. Was it easy? Cheat?

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Not cheap? But was it easy and simple? Yes? It was.

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying you can't do this, but I'm

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>just saying, don't think that you're like getting ahead by

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>getting this free Grubhub perk from Amazon. This is a

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>marketing deal. It helps Amazon, it helps Grubhub, and that's

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the reality here. Normally Grubhub Plus is nine ninety nine

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a month. Once you activate it, you will get twelve

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>months free, or I should say twelve months included in

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>your prime membership. Now, after the twelve months. It does

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>auto renew, so you need to realize either you put

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>something on your calendar that says cancel before the end

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>of the time, or you just go ahead and cancel

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>immediately someplace I always check whenever I sign up for something,

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I always check to see if I can cancel my

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>subscription or membership or whatever immediately, and if I can,

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll do that. Sometimes it'll just say it'll say on

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the you know, in the account settings, it'll say, if

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you cancel now, you will still have access to your

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>to your whatever through the date. So it will tell

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you that. On Apple you can do that a lot,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>except with a lot of the Apple subscriptions, on a

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of the uh you know, you know, third party apps,

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But you just have to check. Like I sign up

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>for a free trial of Paramount Plus the other day,

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and you could go in right after you sign up

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and just cancel, but you'll still have your Paramount Plus

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>membership through the end of the time. You can you

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>can tell usually if you can do it right on

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>the page on your account when you go to cancel,

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it should usually tell you you'll still have access. Again,

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>speaking of scams, this wasn't a scam, but I totally

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>paid for two months or three months worth of Audible

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>after I meant to cancel, because I just kept forgetting

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 1>to cancel. It was on my list. But again I

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>got charged three months, you know, one month, two month,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>three months at fourteen ninety five for stuff I didn't

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>really want to buy. But is it the end of

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the world. No, So what I did was I finally

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>canceled because I remember to do it, But I, you know,

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>just bought three books. When you the thing they changed

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>about Audible it used to be even if you canceled

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>your membership, your Audible credits would last and you could

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>still use those even after you cancel. Well, Amazon got

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 1>hipped to that and they said, oh, let's actually make

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this a little tougher for people. Let's make them make

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>their decisions now before they cancel. And so if let's

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>say you have two credits in your Audible membership and

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you say I want to cancel, It'll say, okay, you're

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna lose these credits right away. So you have to

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>go back in. You got to shop for books, you

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>got to use those credits, and you have to cancel.

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And so what happened to me is that I started

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>this little process of buying and using the audible credits,

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>but then I kind of forgot to go back and cancel,

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and so that happened another month, and then it happened

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>another month, and finally this month I remembered and I

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>did it. So would I call it a scam, No,

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It's it's kind of like they just are getting over

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>on you because you're just forgetting. You get busy and

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you kind of forget about this stuff. So anyway, when

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>in doubt, you can cancel things immediately and or set

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a reminder to trigger, but you know, just make sure

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't get taken like I did. All right, uh,

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Stacy says Rome question. I want to be sure I

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>have the right tap to pay. I sent you a

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>message on Instagram, but I don't know if you see

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>those is the tap to pay by off Gate. Thanks

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>for everything, Stacy sent from my iPhone. So, Stacey, it's

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>actually funny. I got this question a couple of times.

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is why I try to explain things in

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>very easy to understand terms. Because I mentioned in my

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Rome piece I did a piece, you know, I went

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>to Rome. I did a little kind of travel tips

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>piece when I came back to KTLA and I mentioned

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that you should set up tap to pay on your

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>phone because it's accepted nearly everywhere you travel, and it's

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>really easy, it's safe, it's secure, it's fast, and I

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was very surprised how many places in Rome took tap

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to pay. It was just very, very easy to use.

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people texted me and said, rich,

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>which app is tap to pay? I see a bunch

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of them, and I had I didn't realize I have

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to explain this, but I should explain this. But tap

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to pay is the technology, it's not the app. But

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I am sure if you search in the app Store,

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>there are a bunch of scammy apps that use the

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>term tap to pay so that you download them. And

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their endgame is, but they probably

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>either try to ski or get some sort of payment

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>out of you. I'm not sure. I haven't looked them up,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but I got this question enough where I realize that

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>clearly there are those apps in the app Store. So

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>tap to pay is the technology that means that you

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>hold your phone over a reader making a tapping motion.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't actually have to touch your phone to the reader,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but you hold your phone over this little receiver on

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the reader. It looks like a little Wi Fi symbol

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>on its side, and you tap there or you hover there,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and your phone exchanges the payment information with the terminal,

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>So instead of swiping, instead of dipping your card, you

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>just hover your phone and it wirelessly transmits your credit

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>or debit card number to the reader. And what I

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>like about Tap to Pay is that it transmits a

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>one time code. So if you're using a debit card

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>or a credit card credit card, I know we don't

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>care as much, but you still should care because if

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you do have to change your number if it's hacked,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a pain because that happened to me, and it's

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like I'm still getting like, oh, your credit card can't

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>be authorized. Ugh. So with debit card, it's definitely most

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>annoying because it's linked to your checking account and that

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>money goes away very quickly. So what you want to

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>do is set up your credit or your debit card

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>on this Tap to pay and it transmits a one

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>time code, which means if that retailer is ever hacked,

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>your number is safe. Because all the numbers that these

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>hackers get on the back end when they hack something,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it won't work. It only worked that one time, and

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>so that's what's really nice about tap to pay and

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that's also why I recommend using it now. There are

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.479
<v Speaker 1>three tap to pay apps in the US that I

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>know of that work on the iPhone. It's just one.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>It's Apple Pay. And Apple has not been forced to

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>open up their tap to pay to any other third

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>party app, although I think some of the companies are

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to get that changed because tap to pay could

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>be from anyone the other ones. On an Apple Pay

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is built into the iPhone. You just have to set

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it up. You can open up Apple Walla and set

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it up on the Android. You have your choice of

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>two that I know of, and that is Google Pay

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and then Samsung Pay. And I don't know if Samsung

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Pay works on non Samsung Pay devices, but you can

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>try it. Samsung Pay versus Google Pay is really a preference.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I used to prefer Samsung Pay because it had a

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>little trick built into the Samsung phones, and that is

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 1>it worked even on credit card terminals that were not

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Tapped to Pay enabled. I know, very complicated, but Samsung

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>very many years ago bought this company. I think it

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>was called loop that they had a wireless technology that

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>would broadcast a signal. They had a special antenna inside

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Samsung phones that would broadcast a signal to the magnetic

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>stripe receiver on a credit card terminal, and you actually

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>really kind of just tapped your phone there. Your phone

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>would somehow emit a strong enough magnetic signal that this

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>magnetic reader could read, and it would work on any

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>credit card terminal, even credit card terminals before tap to

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>pay was a big thing. I'll never forget trying this

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>out for the first time. I was at someplace in

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Marina del Rey here in California, and it was like

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a lunch place, and the credit card reader was one

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of those that were like a swipe on the actual

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, the cashier is sitting behind a screen

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>where it's like a touch screen where they tap and

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>some of them are swivel mounted now, but back then

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it was just literally a fixed terminal with a touch

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>screen and then a swipe reader on the right. And

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>so the person was like, Okay, it'll be whatever, ten

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars forty eight cents and let me, you know, swipe

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>your card. And I said, oh, I said, I'm testing

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>this new tech. Where I can use my phone as

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a credit card, and they're like, oh, that's not gonna work.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, it will work. But sure enough

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work. But I'm sitting there like tapping the

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>side of their terminal. They probably thought I was like

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to hack the system because nobody knew about this,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, this Samsung tap to pay system. It was

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing. It ended up not working, and I kept saying,

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>let me try one more time, and the cashier was

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>actually friendly enough to let me try it a couple

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>times before they're like, all right, kid, no more, We're

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>done with this. You know, do you have a regular

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>credit card? And so finally it didn't work and I

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>got my regular credit card out. But at the end

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the Samsung system was kind of cool

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>because it would work in a lot of mom and

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>pop shops that didn't have tap to pay set up

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just yet, but the credit card terminal was there typically

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>where you either swipe your card or dip it. But

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of cool. But then they ended up

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>stopping that technology. They stopped building it into their phones.

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I forget which phone. It was either the S twenty

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>or the S twenty one. I think it was yes,

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty maybe, but they stopped building that technology in and

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>so that's when I stopped favoring Samsung Pay because it

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>was there's no longer an advantage over Google Pay unless

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you just like the way Samsung Pay worked. But just

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>these little things I have over the years. You know,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been working at KTLA and testing technology for like

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 1>what fifteen years now, and so well, I've been working

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>at KTLA for over ten but before that, I did

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>cover technology as well for cnet and some other places,

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I've been testing technology in one form or

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>another for many many years. And it's just so funny

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the things that you have to do. You know, Like

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I was on a plane once and I was testing

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>out a VR headset for watching a movie, and it's

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>just like people were probably looking at me like what

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>in the world is this person doing, you know, And

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the thing, the silly little things you have to

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>do to test out this technology. You know, we're on vacation,

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I asked my wife, I'm like, hey, do you mind

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>if we, you know, use this thing on the beach

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>or you know, can you can you get a shot

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>of me trying this out or whatever, and it's it's

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>just always like kind of a little eye roll. But

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>now I've got kids in on it, so my kids

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 1>will really help me out. I'll be like, hey, can

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you just get a shot of me doing this or whatever.

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>But it is fun. It's just funny the things that

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you you know, technology is evolving, it's ever changing, and

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't always work exactly the way it's supposed to

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>on day one, and so you know, but I do

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>enjoy testing this stuff out. It just takes a little

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>bit longer and people think you're a little bit nutty

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes anyway, So those are the tap to pay situations

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to be aware of. Pick an app, whether

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it's Apple Pay on your iPhone, definitely definitely use it,

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>or pick Google Pay or Samsung Pay on the Android.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to the next story of the week.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.959
<v Speaker 1>E three is returning in twenty twenty three. E three

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I call it the Video Game Convention now it's more

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>of an interactive entertainment show. It's finally coming back to

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Convention Center the second week of June

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. Many people thought this show was completely dead.

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It has been put on for many years by the

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Entertainment Software Association. It looks like they still own the show,

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>but it went away during COVID and then it kind

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of came back as a virtual thing, you know, but

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it was not. It just lost its luster. In person

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>still the way to go with a lot of these

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>big shows, and it is coming back. They made an

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>announcement that they are now teaming up with this company

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>called whereas it read pop, I guess. They put on

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of shows, including packs, the New York Comic

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Con and Star Wars celebration. So E three twenty twenty

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>three will welcome back publishers, developers, journalists, content creators, manufacturers, buyers,

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and licensers. The event will highlight digital showcases and feature

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in person consumer components. So it sounds like this is

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a win for video game fans. In recent years it

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>has been open to the public. It looks like they

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>will probably continue to do that again. Registration will be

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>announced in late twenty twenty two. Media creators, industry professionals

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and fans. There you go. Fans are encouraged to visit

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the website for updates. SO again E three returning in

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. So video game. Folks, mark your calendar

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>second week of June if you want to travel to

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles or just kind of if you're in LA.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Definitely a place to go. COVID took a really hard

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>hit on a lot of these in person things, but

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the year a lot of them are coming

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>back or potentially next year if they couldn't get their

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>act together for this year. All right, let's get to

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the next question. Let's see this comes from no one.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>They didn't put a name. I would like to purchase

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the locator tags to put on my trailer and off

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>road car. I am not an Apple person. I have

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>looked at several that need to be charged every two weeks.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>What type do you recommend? Thank you? If you don't

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>have Apple products, I would recommend Tile instead of Apple.

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>The ones that you're looking at that need to be

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>charged every two weeks, those are GPS receivers and if

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you really want like the most secure tag for your

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>trailer and off road car, yes, I would recommend those.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a bunch of I think T Mobile

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>makes one that's a GPS tracker. There are some other

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>ones out there, but the reality is if it's a

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>GPS tracker. The battery is gonna die very quickly because

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 1>GPS takes a lot of battery to continually update the location.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The way that the air tags work and the way

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that TILE works is a combination of Bluetooth and a

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>finding network, and so there is not actual GPS on

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>these devices. What's happening is when a locator device gets nearby,

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and a locator device could be an Android phone with

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the Tile app installed on it, or an iPhone that

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>is just nearby with the air tags, or I guess

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>with Tile as well. But those devices kind of ping

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the locator device and they say, oh, okay, here I am,

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and the locator device says, okay, I know I'm in

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>this little area, so that must be the area that

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the tag is in. So they're not exact, they're not precise,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're not real time, but they still give you

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good idea of where things are. And they

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>also have built in audible tones, and when it's when

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it's within range of Bluetooth, like near your phone, you

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>can use a Bluetooth to really hone in on the

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>location of these tags specifically, So if you don't have Apple,

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I would recommend looking into Tile. Tile is the second

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>best when it comes to the locator tags, and I

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>would say they are a distant second because Apple just

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>has way more, way, way, way more products attempting to

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>locate their tags than Tie does and Tile has. They're

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>getting better because I think people have really ramped up

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the knowledge of these tags, and so more people are

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>using Tile because of air tag is kind of the

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>halo effect. But also I think that Amazon activated what's

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>called Amazon Sidewalk, which also works with Tile, so many

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>more devices are sort of linked in to this finding

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>network for Tile. But that's what I recommend. Check them out.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't know if it's gonna work,

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's better to have it on there than to not.

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about what do you want to

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about gas prices? Let's talk about gas prices. So

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I did a segment on KTLA about expensive gas prices.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, very expensive, but I was trying to find

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>some new ways to sort of, you know, cut down

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on some of these expensive gas prices. So I saw

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these gas stations want you to pay

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>through their app. So I noticed seventy six has an app,

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>has an app exon mobile has an app, and all

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of these apps, the trick is that they want you

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to sign up for their rewards program. They'll give you

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of either cash back or points based

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>on that. But then if you pay by linking your

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.959
<v Speaker 1>checking account, they'll give you a little bit more cash back.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And I typically would not recommend doing that. I'd say,

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just use your card at the pump because it's much easier.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>It's just quicker. I know a lot of people get

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>cash back on their credit cards. So but in this case,

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think because gas prices are so high,

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you've got to look for some new ways of saving

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>even more. Anything helps, Even if you could save five

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to ten cents a gallon with the prices this high,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>it's better than nothing. And so what these companies want

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you to do is pay through your checking account. And

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the reason why they like your checking account is because

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they pay less fees and so they pass along some

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of that savings to you. And so I wouldn't typically

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>recommend giving out your checking account to various companies. But

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if it does save you some money, do your research

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>see if it's worth it. It's only worth it if

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you go to the same station I wouldn't say sign

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>up for every rewards app from a gas station and

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>put in your checking account number on all of them.

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>No way. I think that you pick and choose, like

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>one gas station that you like, and then kind of

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>hone in on that. Obviously, you can use gas Buddy,

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you can use gas Guru, you can use ways to

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>find low gas prices. Also, an app called i Exit

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is really good and their prices are very much updated

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and it can tell you where to go for the

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>best gas price, especially when you're traveling on the freeway

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.919
<v Speaker 1>or the highway and you're on a road trip filling up.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, most of the time we just stop at

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the most convenient station. But if you have this power

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and knowledge of knowing that the gas station two stops

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>ahead is cheaper than the exit right up ahead, then

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that is good knowledge. It's power, and that will translate

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>into savings. The other app that I've been testing out,

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>which I think is kind of cool. Now, you know,

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if you listen to this show, I do drive a Teslas,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>so don't say I'm biased and I don't know anything

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>about gas price. I still do have a gas car

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>in the family, and so it is definitely something that

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we look to save money on when we fill up,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>but this upside app can help you do that because

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.479
<v Speaker 1>it's an app that's like a cash back rewards app.

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And typically I wouldn't really recommend these things in the

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>past because they're kind of a hassle. But I did

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>test it out, not with gas, but with groceries, and

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 1>so a grocery store was giving a bunch of cash back.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like eighteen percent, which is pretty wild.

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So I went in there. You have to So what

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I did was I had to activate the deal from

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the app. Then I had to put in my credit

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 1>card number on the app. You only have to put

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>in your first six digits in the last four you

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>activate the offer. You go in there and you just

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>shop as usual, and that's it. You have like a

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>window of time to shop. I think it was four hours.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And so somehow they figure out that you actually indeed

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>shop there. I guess they somehow scour the credit card

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>numbers on their back end. I don't know if the

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>grocery store shares that with them. I have no idea,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>but somehow the next morning it said, up, we verified

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>your purchase, and it knew exactly how much I spent

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and I got my eighteen percent cash back. It was

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like seven bucks. I thought that was pretty cool, and

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it was like somewhere I would go normally to shop.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I was going out of my way. Now,

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the idea of this app is that it is marketing

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to you. So I've talked about this in the past.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>They are not doing you a favor, They are not

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>helping you out. They are marketing to you. So you

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>may not know it, but eventually you will purchase a

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>pizza at a place that has twenty percent off through

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>this app because you think it's a good deal. And

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it may be. But again, this is all marketing, and

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>so that's the end game here, is that they're trying

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to get you to eventually spend more money or money

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't typically spend, and that's why they give

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you these cash back deals throughout the the regular money

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 1>that you're spending, to get you to spend even more eventually. Look,

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying these

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 1>are the facts of how these things work. These things

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>are not doing you a favor. They are marketing machines

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that are built to help market things to you. And

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that marketing could be a new restaurant that opens up

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and it may say, hey, twenty five percent off if

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you go get a burger at this new restaurant. But

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that a bad thing? Not necessarily if

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna buy a burger anyway, if you're gonna go

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>get dinner anyway, why not go to the places twenty

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>five percent off and give it a try so upside app.

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>You can find the link on my I'll put it

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>on the show notes. But they also have this referral

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>system where you can earn money off of people that

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>sign up under you and then people that sign up

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>under them. So it's kind of like a little pyramid scheme,

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>although I technically don't know if it's called that. I'm

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.959
<v Speaker 1>not saying it's that, but it feels that way because

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone who signs up under your link, you get a

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>little cash back from them, and anyone who signs up

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>from them, you get a little off of them. It's

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of like this little thing, but it does add

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>up and it seems to be worth it. I mean, look,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna save money on gas going to the

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.399
<v Speaker 1>station that you typically go to and it's a better deal.

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Why not? But again I did try it, so I

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>was telling you about that one. So upside app is

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the details on that. Pam says, Hey, Rich, happy fourth.

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Can you recommend a monthly budget slash bill tracker app?

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>There are so many out there as always, Thank you, Pam, Pam.

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't really use too many of these budget and

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>bill track apps. I did use true Bill at one point.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. Mint is also a good

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>one that I've used throughout the years. I think that

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>one's good. Personal Capital is one that seems to be

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty good as well. They're all they're all kind of

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. They all aggregate your different accounts that

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you have and put them all into one place and

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you can see your net worth. They also have some

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of monthly bill slash budgeting built into them, slash

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>subscription trackers, so you can see the things you're subscribed to.

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Quite honestly, I use a spreadsheet. I use an Excel

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>spread or just a spreadsheet. I should say that I

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:04.280
<v Speaker 1>go in every single week and I put in everything

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that I expect to spend and the money that I

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>expect to have come in, and I get it to zero,

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and so I've basically spent all of my money on

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 1>paper before I've gotten it, and then as I go

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 1>along the week, I put in the transactions that I

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>do and continue to make sure that everything is zeroed out,

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>putting in money for savings, putting in money for you know, kids, college,

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever I can throughout the way. But again, it's a

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>very manual process. There is no easy way that I've

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>found to do this. There are many apps that promise

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.439
<v Speaker 1>to make it easy, but quite honestly, I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this method for fifteen years now and I find it

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<v Speaker 1>to be the best method for actually seeing where your

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<v Speaker 1>money's going and directing your money to where you want

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<v Speaker 1>it to go. I know I'm a little weird in

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect, but I don't think that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>simple automated way to do your budget because you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you got to figure out where your money's going,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going before the month starts, and then direct

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it towards those places. And for me personally, I just

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<v Speaker 1>find that that putting all the money down and spending

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<v Speaker 1>it on paper before I get it gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>better understanding of how much spending ability I have that month.

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<v Speaker 1>Some months are are worse than others. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get these big bills that come in, you get these

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected charges. You know, you're paying for your insurance that month,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a little bit more than the month before.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again it's just it's just easier for me

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<v Speaker 1>to do this spreadsheet and figure it all out on

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<v Speaker 1>paper and then just kind of when I do get

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<v Speaker 1>those things in, just mark them off and continually optimize

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<v Speaker 1>and and save. That's the best advice is to really

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<v Speaker 1>save and to always be optimizing what you're spending your

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<v Speaker 1>money on. All right, let's get to the final spot,

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<v Speaker 1>the final talking point. I'm gonna talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the editing apps I like. I did a segment on

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<v Speaker 1>KTLA because I will admit that an editing app called well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about it in a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>this editing app really changed my life. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>really struggling to edit my Instagram reels and I follow

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Zach Honig Honing I think you say

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<v Speaker 1>is his name. He I believe, used to be with

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<v Speaker 1>the Points guy and now he's off at a different startup.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a big travel guy. He's just traveling all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and so his tips are really really handy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can find him on here

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram Zach h O n I G. Yeah, Zach Hoenig

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<v Speaker 1>h O nig. And he's just very very handy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, he's got one hundred and nineteen thousand followers,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly people like like what he's what. He's tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>our instagramming about as much as I do. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote me, I forget, but I just said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>your stories are so I forget what I said to him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was like, oh dude. He's like, don't use

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<v Speaker 1>the built in Instagram editing. He's like, use an app

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<v Speaker 1>called Splice. That's what I use. And I downloaded it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a two week free trial. It was very

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to purchase. It was like seventy bucks for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, you know what, I kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>do this for a living, so let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>actually pay for this, and so I did, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you it has changed my life because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much better to edit on that app than anything

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<v Speaker 1>else that these built in editors give you on the

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>social media apps. And so I'm telling you that because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you need to go out and buy

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<v Speaker 1>Splice for seventy dollars for the year, or even three

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a week, which I think is what they charge

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 1>if you buy it weekly. But there are two other

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<v Speaker 1>apps I think are really good. Splice is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just tell you that. But yes, not everyone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for editing. If you just want to do

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<v Speaker 1>this for fun, for friends, for family, for your Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably want to use a free option, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is probably why cap Cut. Cap Cut is the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular free video editing app. It is always at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the app store lists. It's for I wes

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<v Speaker 1>and Android. This app is amazing. There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>features built in to help you make creative reels. It

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>is great. The downside is that it's owned by TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you are not comfortable with that reality, you

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>may want to use the different app. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>really really good. There is just about every editing tool

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of built into cap Cut. Inshot has

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<v Speaker 1>been around forever. You might have used it back in

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the day to help squeeze your your four x three

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Instagram pictures into a square with some borders on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have a fully robust editing app. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is fully free as well, but they will try to

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.479
<v Speaker 1>pay you make you pay to upgrade, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to if you don't. There are on screen ads

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>just about everywhere. There's also a watermark logo, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can get rid of that by watching an ad. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a great all around editing app. It does

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<v Speaker 1>work really well with both photos and videos. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned, Splice is really good. But Splice is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a little bit more on the high end because

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<v Speaker 1>it does cost more money. All right, So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the three apps I recommend. Oh wow, and if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, check out my Instagram reels. I do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't put a tonnel work into them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do enjoy doing those and I do enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with those on a reasonably regular basis. All right.

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