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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in the final hour Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've

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Speaker 2: been breaking down the Wednesday night Republican debate, a lot

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Speaker 2: of different angles, to attack, a lot of different candidate performances,

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Speaker 2: to analyze one bit of good news, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I thought we should mention, Buck has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the debates. The Senate has reversed. Did you see

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Speaker 2: the story the John Fetterman dress code? So the Senate

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Speaker 2: as a whole, credit to Republicans and Democrats, both sides

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Speaker 2: of the aisle said no, this is ridiculous. We can't

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Speaker 2: have a guy in shorts and a hoodie presiding over

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Speaker 2: the United States Senate. So they voted to override the

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Speaker 2: dress code decisions of Chuck Schumer to make that adjustment.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I don't know, Buck, is what happens

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Speaker 2: if you what happens if Feterman just refuses to wear

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Speaker 2: a suit? Is there some sort of will they not

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Speaker 2: allow him on the Senate floor? In other words, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Anytime there's a dress code you're relying on

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Speaker 2: someone to be willing to subscribe to the dress code, right,

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Speaker 2: and also the fact that you have an ability to

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Speaker 2: enforce it and there are consequences if you don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: it will go from here, but I did want to

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Speaker 2: mention that as good news. Okay, I thought last night

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Speaker 2: the strongest moment on the stage. I'm curious if you

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Speaker 2: would agree, buck was Dana Perino asked, basically Survivor style,

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Speaker 2: who would you vote off the island? You have like

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Speaker 2: a dry erase board and the ability to write on it.

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Speaker 2: I presume they just passed those out to everyone, and

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Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis basically took charge on the stage and said, no,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. I think we have

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Speaker 2: this that audio listen which one.

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Speaker 4: Of you on stage tonight should be voted off the island?

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Speaker 4: Please use your marker to write your choice on the

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Speaker 4: no pad in front of you fifteen seconds starting out

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Speaker 4: of the people on the stage.

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Speaker 3: You should be absolutely serious, all due respect. I mean

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Speaker 3: we're here like, well, you know, we're happy to debate.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's disrespect competitive questions. The future of

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Speaker 3: the pets.

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Speaker 5: Now at the very end of the debate, and that

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Speaker 5: was Ron DeSantis's most alpha dog moment I think there.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't some huge, huge long speech he gave,

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Speaker 5: but just to step up and say, look, we're not

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Speaker 5: And I understand they were trying to have fun at

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Speaker 5: the end of the debate. I do think it was

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Speaker 5: ill advised, but I think DeSantis handled it very well.

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Speaker 5: They moved on, they turned it into another some other question.

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Speaker 5: Chris Christie volunteered that he would vote Trump off the island,

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Speaker 5: which is to my point that the only reason Christy

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Speaker 5: and pens are running is because they want to have

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Speaker 5: a platform to try to, you know, get even with

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Speaker 5: with people who started to write I think I think

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Speaker 5: the veg.

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Speaker 3: Started to write.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want to speak out

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Speaker 5: of school. I don't want to get this wrong. Christy

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Speaker 5: started to write, but he said he was writing Trump.

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Speaker 5: I think the Veko is one other there are maybe Pence.

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Speaker 5: Pence probably be writing Trump too. Look by the polls,

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Speaker 5: the answer would be Bergham obviously, who has not really

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Speaker 5: ever gotten above zero or one percent from.

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Speaker 3: What I've seen. Uh, he may be joining you, Clay.

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Speaker 5: I'm out tomorrow because I have to move, but he

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Speaker 5: Governor bergham In.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was I thought he was really good,

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Speaker 2: I mean too very likable. I like the idea of

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Speaker 2: business background because so many people are clueless about basic

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Speaker 2: business issues. But I thought that was a strong moment

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Speaker 2: for to Sands. I didn't even have a problem with

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Speaker 2: the Dana Perino question. I thought it was actually a

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Speaker 2: good question. And sometimes here's an interesting way to think

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Speaker 2: about this. The question was provocative enough that the reaction

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Speaker 3: Than you might have gotten.

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Speaker 2: My biggest issue with debates in general is so many

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Speaker 2: it sounds like it doesn't sound like a conversation. And

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Speaker 2: you probably deal with this on the show too. We

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Speaker 2: so robotically programmed to go right into their talking points

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Speaker 2: because they weren't prepared for that question.

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Speaker 3: So in a risky question, but at least revealed something.

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Speaker 5: I think that sometimes you could even see with those candidates.

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Speaker 5: You could see in sense that when they were answering things,

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Speaker 5: some of the candidates, the structure of the answer felt

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Speaker 5: like it is rehearsed when you hear.

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Speaker 3: It right the moment.

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Speaker 5: If someone said, as you know, inflation is a big problem,

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Speaker 5: what are you going to do about it? And you say, well,

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Speaker 5: first we have to remember that Joe Biden is so bad,

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Speaker 5: and then we have to think about this other thing,

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Speaker 5: and then there's this other thing I want to throw

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Speaker 5: in about how I did great things, and you never

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Speaker 5: even really get to the answer as to what are

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Speaker 5: you going to do?

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Speaker 3: What is your solution?

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of that last night, and I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, one of the bigger credit we

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Speaker 5: will get to birthright citizenship, which before you an't even

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Speaker 5: talked about I thought was Vivic's best moment is best

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Speaker 5: answer other than that, you know, I think the veg

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Speaker 5: is somebody who every chance to speak is an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to give this sort of soaring rhetoric about the greatness

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Speaker 5: of America and the American people. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes we actually just want to talk about while the

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Speaker 5: price of milk is so high, and what we can

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Speaker 5: do about it, you know, like sometimes you got to

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Speaker 5: get down into the weeds a little bit on what

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Speaker 5: you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Do, and you're hitting on what I saw as the

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Speaker 2: biggest flaw. The most revelatory moments are the unscripted ones.

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Speaker 2: So when the candidates start to go back and forth

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Speaker 2: at each other and they're chirping and we were talking

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Speaker 2: about Nicki Haley and what people thought about her, that's

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Speaker 2: actually when they reveal, I think, more of what they're

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Speaker 2: really like. And I thought a lot of times the

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Speaker 2: conflict would start. And then if you go back and

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Speaker 2: tape of the debate, you would notice how often this happened. Man,

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Speaker 2: there's a real disagreement, there's conflict. They're going at each other.

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Speaker 2: It's off script. It's real, or at least as real

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Speaker 2: as you can be on live television with the Cleeg

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Speaker 2: lights up and everything else. Right, we all understand that

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Speaker 2: this is in some way an audition for playing the

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Speaker 2: role of president, right, which is a very much of

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Speaker 2: a There are a lot of cosmetic elements to.

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Speaker 3: It, but they would cut away.

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Speaker 2: It's like they're going head to head, the candidates really

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Speaker 2: have a disagreement, they may not even like each other,

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Speaker 2: which is fine, and they're really kind of throwing punches,

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Speaker 2: and then they go to a totally different person on

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Speaker 2: what the fight was about. That's why it felt so

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Speaker 2: discordant to me. In addition, you said the first hour,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's the right word, it was very

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Speaker 2: cacophonous because everybody was kind of talking at once, and

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Speaker 2: you know when when things stopped being you know.

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Speaker 3: They they they they start being real.

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Speaker 2: That was the tagline we got to when things stopped

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Speaker 5: So there was something else that was interesting that happened

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Speaker 5: last night since we started with Ron DeSantis, this big,

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Speaker 5: big moment of the debate, which I think most people,

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Speaker 5: irrespective of who they support, on that stage, thought Ron's

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Speaker 5: best moment was the hey, like, we're not going to

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Speaker 5: tell because the other candidates really all agreed to So

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Speaker 5: there was unanimity on that stage. Well, maybe one or

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Speaker 5: But there there was another another thing that came up

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he took a break from surf lessons with

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Speaker 5: Clay and decided that great.

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Speaker 3: In a wet suit.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my boy Gavin really like really good

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Speaker 5: So he decided that he was gonna show up and

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Speaker 5: he was on Fox News. Now, as we know, Fox

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Speaker 5: is and I believe our good friend Sean Hannity is

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Speaker 5: the moderator or set to be the moderator. Fox is

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Speaker 5: going to have a debate between DeSantis and Newsom, which

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Speaker 5: I think will be very interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to watch it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's harder for it to turn into just

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Speaker 5: you know, Yeah, I think that's right, because you know,

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Speaker 5: if you're just shouting over somebody the whole time, you

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Speaker 5: where Newsom is actually taking shots at DeSantis for being

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Speaker 5: willing to debate. Gavin Newsom play the clip this week.

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Speaker 6: We learned that it's going to happen a debate between

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Speaker 6: you and Ron DeSantis. November thirtieth, Box News Channel, Sean

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Speaker 6: Andnity in Georgia without a crowd, just the two of you.

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing that? And what is your strategy?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if that's the right question. Why

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Speaker 3: He's running?

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Speaker 7: I think I'm not sure after tonight, but currently he's

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Speaker 7: running for president United States.

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Speaker 6: You think it's still be a candidate a November thirty.

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Speaker 3: That's an open ended question.

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Speaker 7: Part of me wonders, if you know the fact that

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Speaker 7: he took this debate, the fact that he took the

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Speaker 7: debate in relationship this debate, so is that he's completely

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Speaker 7: unqualified to president United States?

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Speaker 5: Clay Clay, you got to tell your buddy here, Okay.

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to debate.

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Speaker 5: This is like he's not man enough to get into

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Speaker 5: the ring with me. For the boxing match, and the

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Speaker 5: guy's like, all right, I'll get in the boxing match.

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Speaker 5: He's like, oh, he's an unseerious person willing to take

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Speaker 5: me up on my boxing challenge. Like, can't have it

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Speaker 5: both ways, Gavin, although he thinks he can because he's.

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Speaker 3: A lib.

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Speaker 2: This is just I mean, I listen to that, and

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Speaker 2: I think to myself, Gavin Newsom wants Donald Trump to win.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom wants Donald Trump to be elected president in

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think there's when you listen to that.

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Speaker 2: If he truly doesn't think that Ron DeSantis is a

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Speaker 2: of birthright citizenship. That is, if you are an illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrant and you cross our border and get onto United

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Speaker 2: States soil, your children are American citizens. Birthright citizenship is

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Speaker 2: a vestige of colonialism. It doesn't exist in most of

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world. It is being taken advantage of,

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Speaker 2: and it is a primary incentive factor to drive people here.

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Speaker 2: The veg Ramaswami said he would end birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Here is that answer.

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Speaker 10: Listen, I say for ending birthright citizenship for the kids

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Speaker 10: of illegal immigrants in this country. Now, the leftraal howl

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Speaker 10: about the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment. The difference between

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Speaker 10: me and them is I've actually read.

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Speaker 3: The Fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 10: What it says is that all persons born or naturalized

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Speaker 10: in the United States, and subject to the laws and

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Speaker 10: jurisdiction thereof are citizens. So nobody believes that the kit

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Speaker 10: of a Mexican diplomat in this country enjoys birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 10: Not a judge or legal scholar in this country.

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Speaker 3: Will disagree with me on that. Well, if the kid

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Speaker 3: of a.

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Speaker 10: Mexican diplomat doesn't enjoy birthright citizenship, then neither does the

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Speaker 10: kid of an illegal migrant who broke the law to

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Speaker 10: come here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's right, one undred percent. We both think he's right.

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Speaker 5: The argument may turn on subject to the I mean,

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Speaker 5: you are even if you're not an American in America,

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Speaker 5: just like Americans are subject to jurisdictions.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the foreign country that you're in. You

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Speaker 2: don't get to have your laws travel with you to Honduras,

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Speaker 2: for instance.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so you know you are subject to the jurisdiction

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Speaker 5: you are in. So I think where the legal fight

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Speaker 5: on this one may turn, assuming somebody is willing to

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Speaker 5: actually go there and try to do this, would be well,

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Speaker 5: they are, you know, there are subject to US juris.

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Speaker 5: You know they're subject to US jurisdiction. I understand. I

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Speaker 5: don't think that's right. I think that the proper way

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Speaker 5: to view this is what he laid out, which is essentially,

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Speaker 5: if you let's say you come here as an illegal

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Speaker 5: immigrant from UH, from Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about that a lot.

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Speaker 5: You're really subject for the purposes of citizenship, you are

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Speaker 5: subject to the jurisdiction of Venezuela, right you are. You

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Speaker 5: know that That's the way it should be viewed, the

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Speaker 5: same way that people who are Americans who are deployed

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Speaker 5: to military bases, you know, you are under US sovereignty

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Speaker 5: and uc MJ. When you're abroad, it's not oh, I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm living in Germany, so like now I'm in Deutschland,

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Speaker 5: like I just live bry deutsch Land rules like that's

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Speaker 5: not actually how it goes. So yeah, that's I think

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Speaker 5: the uh that was the most interesting way to put this.

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Speaker 5: That was the most I'm sorry interesting moment that Vivek

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Speaker 5: had there up on the stage. You know, the people

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Speaker 5: say this, I don't know you're going to answer. Trump

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Speaker 5: brought this up, yeah, and said he was going to

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Speaker 5: do it, and then I think it was one of

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Speaker 5: these things where the advisors or something told them don't

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Speaker 5: do it, right, I mean, yep, you know what was

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Speaker 5: the why didn't he do it?

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Speaker 2: I mean my answer would be, I guarantee they polled

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Speaker 2: it and they were like, you're gonna run for reelection, sir.

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Speaker 2: I do think that the underdiscussed element of a potential

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Speaker 2: Trump second term, and this is true for any second term,

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Speaker 2: is you're done. So if there are things that you

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Speaker 2: want to get done that may be controversial or may

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Speaker 2: not poll that, well, it's the second term, the first

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Speaker 2: couple of years where you decide to do it. So

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Speaker 2: I would start to say some of those things if

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Speaker 2: I were, Hey, I'm letting it rip because I'm not

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Speaker 2: ever going to be president again. I'm going to really

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Speaker 2: do everything that I said I was gonna do, and

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Speaker 2: maybe just be honest, because I guarantee you Sometimes political

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Speaker 2: reality dictates that they go back and they say, hey, sir,

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Speaker 2: turns out if you in birthright citizenship, you drop x

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Speaker 2: percent in these states where you need to do well.

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Speaker 2: I also think part of this is buck is just

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Speaker 2: the way you make the argument, and I make the

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Speaker 2: argument in my book An American Playbook, because I dove

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Speaker 2: into this. There isn't really a good defense of the

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Speaker 2: history behind birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 3: It makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: In the context of hey, you know you used to

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Speaker 2: have to get on We had Bill O'Reilly yesterday and

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Speaker 2: he was like, hey, you know when you got on

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Speaker 2: the boat in Ireland and you were trying to come

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Speaker 2: to Massachusetts Bay Colony.

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Speaker 3: That was a multi month trip.

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Speaker 2: And so most people who got on boats and came

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Speaker 2: to this country never went back because it was expensive

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Speaker 2: and because it was so incredibly difficult to make that

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Speaker 2: trip in the first place. The idea of birthright citizenship

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Speaker 2: didn't exist for hypersonic jet travel, you know, the idea

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Speaker 2: that you could get on a plane in China and

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Speaker 2: land in La fourteen hours later.

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Speaker 3: This is a time.

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Speaker 5: This is a business. I mean, people make money. It's illegal,

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Speaker 5: but people make money doing this running these birth hotels

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Speaker 5: effectay and or you know, like citizenship hotels whatever they

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Speaker 5: call them, and they investigate as you're not supposed to

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Speaker 5: be doing this, but the system that we have does

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Speaker 5: incentivize this, and the system that we have hasn't figured

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Speaker 5: out or no one has brought this challenge at least,

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Speaker 5: so we get full clarity on where this is all going. Yeah, Trump,

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Speaker 5: I look this up. Play on the fly here. Trump

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Speaker 5: said in twenty eighteen he was going to sign an

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Speaker 5: executive order ending birthright citizenship. He said in October of

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, you can definitely do with an Act of Congress.

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Speaker 5: But now they're saying I can do it with an

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Speaker 5: executive order, and that executive order did not get signed. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: now he is saying, to be clear that this would

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Speaker 5: be signed his first day in office this time around.

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Speaker 3: So you may be right.

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Speaker 5: It might have had to be a I guess twenty

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Speaker 5: eighteen a political calculation, or twenty early twenty nineteen. I

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Speaker 5: think I would bet that his advisor said, sir, that's

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Speaker 5: a risky move to make.

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Speaker 2: Remember Trump, I believe would have won comfortable reelection. But

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Speaker 2: for COVID, the idea, it wasn't just that COVID happened.

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Speaker 2: It was that COVID happened in March of an election year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's why a lot of people out there who

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Speaker 2: are listening to us right now find you know, the

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Speaker 2: idea this came out of a Chinese lab is not

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Speaker 2: at all. I don't think if you look at the

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Speaker 2: evidence controversial to say you and me have been saying

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Speaker 2: that for years. That's what the evidence reflected. There are

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Speaker 2: some people that will take the next step and say

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Speaker 2: this wasn't an accidental release.

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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to go.

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Speaker 2: There, but the fact that this happened in an election

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Speaker 2: year is certainly one that makes your eyebrows go up.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a year that this could have happened that

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Speaker 2: would have been more destructive in terms of the American

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Speaker 2: body politic than during an election year. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: not an election year buck when it's like Mitt Romney

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Speaker 2: against Barack Obama, two relatively generally speaking, blandly inoffensive nerds

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Speaker 2: kind of throwing punches at each other. Instead you got

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump on the ballot. So I just think this

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Speaker 2: is the whole concept here factors in. But I would

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Speaker 2: bet they said to Trump, this doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 2: do in your first term let's do it second term,

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Speaker 2: and he was planning to do it in the second term.

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Speaker 3: That would be my guess.

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Speaker 5: As we kind of break this down, we'll take some

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Speaker 5: of your calls to close up shop here on the

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Speaker 5: Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Try to run through them fast.

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Speaker 2: Give us your reaction, your biggest takeaways from the debate

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Speaker 5: Close enough shop here on Clay and Buck. Want to

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Speaker 5: take some of your calls, read some of your vip emails.

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Speaker 5: And Clay is going to be solo tomorrow. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be moving, so just moving moving houses, not moving

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Speaker 5: cities or anything. Haven't haven't decided to move back to

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Speaker 5: New York.

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Speaker 3: That's not How much rather would you be doing the

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Speaker 3: show than moving?

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I will. I will be missing the

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Speaker 5: show during every minute of it because moving is inherently

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Speaker 5: and I'm I'm you know old now, so I like

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Speaker 5: get movers. I moved when I lived in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 5: I had like a pretty big, you know, one bedroom

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Speaker 5: apartment and everything else. I loaded my U haul myself,

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Speaker 5: drove four hours and unloaded the whole thing myself, and

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Speaker 5: it was it was a pretty That was a tough day.

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Speaker 5: I'm it to tell you that was a tough You

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Speaker 5: think you don't have that many things until you realize

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Speaker 5: you do. So moving is always a they say it's

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Speaker 5: like the third or fourth most stressful life event most

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Speaker 5: people have. You know, yeah, it's like after like a divorce,

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Speaker 5: getting super sick and then you know, moving. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: I'm moving, So Clay is going to keep the show

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Speaker 5: moving here and make sure that everything is fantastic tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: So I will miss all of you.

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Speaker 5: I'll be back on Monday, and I'm going to try

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Speaker 5: not to throw my back out because you know what

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Speaker 5: always happens when you see these guys they are like

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Speaker 5: moving stuff around. They got those weight belts on and

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Speaker 5: you know, the stability whatever. I'm like, I could lift that,

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Speaker 5: only let me help them out. And then I go

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Speaker 5: over there and then that first little, that little twinge

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Speaker 5: in your back, and then you realize you're not twenty

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Speaker 5: five anymore. You know.

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Speaker 2: Professional movers are badasses. I mean, that is a grueling,

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Speaker 2: physical job to do on the day, and most underappreciated jobs.

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Speaker 2: The fact that people.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've I've moved many times in my life,

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Speaker 5: more times than I honestly would have liked in retrospect.

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Speaker 5: And whenever I've moved alone a lot, I've moved by

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Speaker 5: myself a lot. I've got friends to help out or whatever,

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Speaker 5: when I've had professional movers. So very uh, a lot

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Speaker 5: of respect for what is a very hard, very hard gig.

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Speaker 5: All right, here we go, VI P emails coming in. Wait,

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Speaker 5: do we have some?

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Speaker 3: We have some?

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Speaker 5: A bunch of callers calls here, Uh, Ronda and Tampa, Florida.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Ronda and Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? What was your first part? We missed? We got

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Speaker 3: cut off there? What what's your take?

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Speaker 9: So my take is is that they better be that

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Speaker 9: DeSantis needs to be very careful with Newsom. I've lived

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Speaker 9: in both states, and Newsom is very good at the

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Speaker 9: gifts of gas. He doesn't need no cards and things. Yep,

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Speaker 9: he's very good at replies and when he when they

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Speaker 9: hit the economy here and I know they're going to

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Speaker 9: try to hit the economy in California too, And trust me,

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Speaker 9: I'm a Republican. But the thing is, it was cheaper

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Speaker 9: to live in California than it is in Florida. And

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Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom never allowed interns companies to raise rapes forty percent.

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Speaker 9: He never did that. He never do things that would

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Speaker 9: hurt the people.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. I would argue that shutting

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Speaker 2: down schools and not letting people go to the beach

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Speaker 2: hurt people in California.

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Speaker 3: In a pretty big way.

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Speaker 2: But I think the essence of what she's saying, Buck

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Speaker 2: is everybody out there understand this.

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Speaker 3: Just to put this in the back of your mind.

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Speaker 2: You may think I'm crazy, but just start to think

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Speaker 2: about it as you watch Gavin Newsom move about. He

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Speaker 2: wants Donald Trump to win because it benefits Gavin Newsom's

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Speaker 2: opportunity to run for president in twenty twenty eight. And

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom is not out looking for what's best for

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Speaker 2: the country. He's out looking for what's best for Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 2: and that is Trump winning. Just replace everything Avin Newsom

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Speaker 2: saying and pretend Trump said it not a lot of difference,

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Speaker 2: and just ask yourself this, how much super negativity or

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Speaker 2: even negativity at all.

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Speaker 5: Has Gavin Newsom levied at Donald Trump part of fine,

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Speaker 5: very little, very little. He always says something like, obviously

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Speaker 5: we disagree on policy, but you know, I gotta say,

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Speaker 5: the guy does have.

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Speaker 3: Quite a head of hair. You know, it's very uh.

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Speaker 3: He wants Trump to win.

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Speaker 5: And once you recognize that, everything that got the Avin

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Speaker 5: Newsom is doing right now makes sense. Jessica in San Antonio, Texas?

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Speaker 3: What's going on in Jessica?

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Speaker 11: Hi, gentlemen, how are you fantastic?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 11: I just wanted to say I've been calling and calling, calling,

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Speaker 11: because I want to tell you, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 11: I think the Vic the Vic just he won that

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Speaker 11: debate last night. I think he won the last one.

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Speaker 11: I think he has the most unique perspective because he

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Speaker 11: appeals to a younger generation. I don't think anybody else

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Speaker 11: on that stage.

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Speaker 2: How old are you, Jessica, I'm thirty nine, and there's

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Speaker 2: nobody else.

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Speaker 3: I do agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think the Vague appeals to people you know, forty

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Speaker 2: five and under, fifty and under in a way that

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't older. So you thought he won Debate one

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Speaker 2: and Debate.

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Speaker 11: Two one hundred percent last night, and y'all made a

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Speaker 11: great point when he talked about, you know, some of

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Speaker 11: the issues that they all pretty much agree on. But

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Speaker 11: when he talks about you know, leading this new our generation,

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Speaker 11: our kids to be you know, to love their country,

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Speaker 11: to have a purpose, you know, I appreciate that because

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Speaker 11: I think this generation in high school right now, they

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Speaker 11: don't have that. Yeah, they're lost, they're on their phones,

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Speaker 11: they're playing video games. And he I think can for

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Speaker 11: my kids, you know, and he's my age, you know,

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Speaker 11: for my kids. He can bring them into and give

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Speaker 11: them purpose. And I just love that about him. He

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Speaker 11: has something to offer these this younger generation that voting block.

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Speaker 11: The Republicans always ignore the younger generation. I just they have.

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Speaker 6: Nothing to for them.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for Colin in Jessica.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we have We have so many other

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Speaker 5: calls I wanted to get to and I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know, how good do you think Vivek really is

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Speaker 5: a tennis I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I might have to I might have.

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Speaker 2: To your calls tomorrow on Friday. I would just point

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Speaker 2: this out. Vivek is what thirty nine. Yeah, Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: is forty five. There's only five or six years between them.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like Viveke is way younger than DeSantis,

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Speaker 2: because would you agree with that? Like, even though they

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Speaker 2: are only separated by five or six years, And I

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Speaker 2: don't mean just physically the way they look. Because DeSantis

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Speaker 2: has three young kids, Vivek has two young kids.

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Speaker 5: They do feel like they're separated by more than five years.

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Speaker 3: Who do you should get a higher GPA? Oh, that's

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Speaker 3: a good question. I think, uh, Viveke.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Viveke because I think he would

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Speaker 2: have defined himself by GPA more