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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, How would you diagnose any other No, crank,

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Speaker 1: tell me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. So

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Speaker 1: I said, let's go through grounds. So yeah, let's go

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Speaker 1: through grounds. I mean, what's good? Kid? It's the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: If you started off bringing up the temperature, and you know,

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Speaker 1: a paradiator rose hot, uncomfortable to touch, Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: work fine. Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open,

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Speaker 1: but I am here to take their calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five five five six and now running. Gee, let's see it.

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Speaker 1: I think I got all the parts in place today.

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Speaker 1: I think all the pieces are where they're supposed to be. A. UM,

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Speaker 1: came out of surgery, Tom, did I tell you this?

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Speaker 1: You know where I was this morning? I but you know,

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Speaker 1: in the words of ethel Merman, the show must go on, right,

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Speaker 1: I weren't in a good place this morning. No, well,

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Speaker 1: and and and they think we're kidding, right, I? UM,

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Speaker 1: you know the perils of auto repair somewhere along the way.

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Speaker 1: Since Monday, I've been um and you know, one eyed

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Speaker 1: mechanic is definitely a bad thing. It's not good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Monday at the shop, it was just, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just all of a sudden, I noticed my

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Speaker 1: but you know I have I have floaters. And I said,

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Speaker 1: oh gee, I got a floater in my right eye.

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Speaker 1: I know, every once in a while I see something

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Speaker 1: looks like a piece of hair or spider. We've kind

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Speaker 1: of crawl across my right lens and you know, try

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Speaker 1: to read a wiring diagram with that, and you're going,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's seven wire diagram, looks like

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Speaker 1: it's forty eight, and you're going, Holy count, We've got

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more wires here. What's going on? And uh,

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Speaker 1: Monday went by, and Tuesday went by, and Wednesday was

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Speaker 1: it was terrible. I said, you know, I better go

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Speaker 1: to an eye doctor. I guess I'm not so indestructible anymore.

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Speaker 1: And um, turns out I tour. It turned out it

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Speaker 1: was a whole. But I had a tear in the

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Speaker 1: right retin of my right eye. Um. This was this

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Speaker 1: was Friday afternoon at three o'clock by the time they

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Speaker 1: got all this settled. So they found me a surgeon

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Speaker 1: right away and I did laser surgery. Uh this morning.

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Speaker 1: They and that's just amazing. But what technology. Um, holy cow.

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Speaker 1: They lean your backstrapped you in the chair like Dracula.

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Speaker 1: Well not Dracula, they did to the Frankenstein monster so

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Speaker 1: you don't jump out, and they shoot a laser beam

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Speaker 1: into your eye like you know. Um So anyway, so

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Speaker 1: I'm a little cock eyed today. So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: the show works out. I bet you I can still

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Speaker 1: the brain power that I normally have. But um, anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm here because the show has to go on. As

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Speaker 1: ethel Merman said, Tom said, can you do the show today?

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Speaker 1: I said, of course, it's only fixing cars. I said,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's brain surgery or laser surgery like

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Speaker 1: they just did to me. But um, anyway, so when

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Speaker 1: sort of like how my week started and ended. But um,

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Speaker 1: and its problems. At a five five nine ro zero,

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Speaker 1: I can almost really, I'm what's that? That's really not

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Speaker 1: everybody how your week started? Oh about um little m J. Y. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a grandpa now, um yeah, little baby girl five

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's really great when you get EVAP

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Event, a purge, event being backed

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Speaker 1: Work my way down The neck was clear. Um, didn't

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Speaker 1: But it's been filtered through the charcoal inside the canister.

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Speaker 1: and get to the it's it's a diffuser tube. Um.

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Speaker 1: must have sat for a while somewhere and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, I've

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Speaker 1: UM ground two. Ground two oh two is the center

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Speaker 1: That's the question. This is this is this is this

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Speaker 1: Let me do this for you. Take my email Ron

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jeff, I'm sorry, I mean to cut you off. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jeff, you're still there, sir. You know they

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Speaker 1: It comes out of the instrument panel illuminate nation UH

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Speaker 1: as long as my car is flattened level, I can

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Speaker 1: When I get to a hilly area and I'm going

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Speaker 1: on your shift indicator you have overdrive a non overdrive? No,

427
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: I just have a D inn L. Okay, you have

428
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: D n n L. Does the D have a circle

429
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: around the guy I had, I had a transmission guy

430
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: check out the transmission. He said, it's not the transmission. Okay.

431
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: How did he check it out? Did he drive the car?

432
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: He drove the car on the interstate. Okay. So my

433
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: next question would be and obviously there's no fault codes,

434
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: then you've got a diagnose and go from point A. Um,

435
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: what's fuel pressure? What's fuel trim? Is anybody looking? Is

436
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: anybody looking for misfires? I know you're saying it doesn't

437
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: seem like a misfire, but you know what you feel

438
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: and what's really going on. If we based it on that,

439
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: then there's nothing wrong with the car. It's sort of

440
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: like the TV suddenly turns off at ten o'clock on

441
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: Friday night when it's warm. What would be the first

442
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: thing you do. You'd watch TV ten o'clock on Friday

443
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: night when it was warm, right, right, So I had

444
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: I had the technician check and he said, uh, my

445
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: wiring is good. No, nothing, he said it could be

446
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: an intermittent coil, could be And I'm saying, no, I

447
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: can't be an airmitting coil because it only happens when

448
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm going up the hill. Well that's when of coils

449
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: under the most load. It would happen at other times

450
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: I go over a bump or something. Well, no, it

451
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: could happen when it's under the most load and engines

452
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: under the most dress, pulling hard when it gets to

453
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: the top of the hill. When does the when does

454
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: the horse wear out? Pulling the beer wagon at the

455
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: bottom of the hill, starting outer when it gets when

456
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: it gets to the top and it's about to near

457
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: the peak. Right, Um, So you know again, it doesn't

458
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: sound like a lot of testing has been done. What's

459
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: fuel pressure? What's fuel trim? Can the mass airflow provide

460
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: calculated load up to its max um? And a lot

461
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: of this is simple testing. It's not hard to do.

462
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: A fuel pressure test is a fuel pressure gauge strapped

463
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: to the windshield, go for go for a rod. Um.

464
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: You know what I normally do. What I normally do

465
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: on a car like this, Jeff, I will literally sit

466
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: down with a cup of tea and a clean white

467
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: piece of paper and make a list. I want to

468
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: know this, this, and I actually have this pre printed out.

469
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for dramatic effect, but I want to

470
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: know this, this, this, this and this. How am I

471
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna go extract this from this car? All right? And

472
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, a lot a lot of times a fuel

473
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: pressure gauge come doesn't come off a car like this

474
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: until it's fixed and just about ready to leave. H

475
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: we have we have three fuel pressure gauges in the

476
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: shop because sometimes we're tied up on three different cars. Um,

477
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, it'll just stay duct tape forever. I just

478
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: want to know if fuel ashure is And don't forget

479
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: there's no rule that says this is only one problem,

480
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: which is the other part of this? So um, if

481
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: somebody wants to do a calculated load test, very simple

482
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: using O b D two using a basic diagnostic scanner,

483
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: vehicle warmed up flat level road ten miles an hour,

484
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: put your foot through the floor and watch calculated load

485
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: on the mass airflow, will it achieve can it maintain?

486
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: You know, in effect that we look we're looking for

487
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: does the engine have a problem breathing? Um. There's also

488
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: another test that can be done which is too long

489
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: to explain here on radio, called volumetric efficiency, which is

490
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: a measurement calculated load and and again air intake um.

491
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: This is a process on I'm going I've gone eighty

492
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: miles on the interstate and not had the problem until

493
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: I hit the top of a hill. Okay, and so

494
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: so I know that the only time I get the

495
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: problem is when the car is in an inclined position

496
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: going up not down right, because the car is straining.

497
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Does the horse have a problem pulling the beer wagon

498
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: going up or going down? I'm just saying, you're you're fascinating.

499
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: You're fascinated by the fact that it happens at the

500
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: top of the hill, aren't you? Yeah? To me? To me,

501
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: that's that centrifical forces as being exerted on on something. Okay,

502
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: do this once you try driving up the top of

503
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: the hill at twenty it doesn't happen. Okay, why not

504
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: centrifical force? Well, I don't think there's enough centrifical and

505
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: I usually have a full tank of gas. Okay, well, Bill, yeah,

506
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's centrifical force. If it was, the

507
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: angle of the dangle would still affect it. All right, Um,

508
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: unless you can tell me, you know it. Does it

509
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: happen at thirty? Does it happen at forty? Does it

510
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: happen at eighty? If you're going up the hill? Only

511
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: when I'm doing between between forty and anything else of

512
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: that going up the hill? Okay, it doesn't happen at forty? No,

513
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: all right, Sure sounds like it's in the transmission to me,

514
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: but that's just from my seat. That's just from my

515
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: seat here. But again I can eliminate it. What's fuel pressure,

516
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: what's fuel trim, what's mass airflow, what's what are some

517
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: of the other measurements doing. That's that's all. Take it

518
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: into a shop and the guy does racing. All he

519
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: does is race and run a shop, so he's real

520
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: familiar with with everything it has to go with a

521
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: with a race engine. All Right, I'm not sure how

522
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: that's going to apply to O B D two, but

523
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, I listen, I'm not distracting from the guy.

524
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, um, you know, it's it's just

525
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I want to know numbers. I want to know fuel trim.

526
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: I want to know everything else that's going on. That's all.

527
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, Bill or Jeff, all right, okay,

528
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: I will I will take it, and I will have

529
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: the guy do a fuel a fuel test on on

530
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: fuel pressure and yeah, pressure and volume, that's all I want. Alright,

531
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: pressure and volume and listen, listen. That's not to say

532
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: that when you get to the peak of the hill

533
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: under such load, it's got a weak motor mount, it's

534
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: pulling on a wiring harness causing the engine to miss.

535
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: But that's a good thought. Yeah, you know, but I

536
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know anything until I cover the basics. Yeah you

537
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: know again, the horses getting to the top of the

538
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: hill pulling the beer wagon. If the beer wagon was lighter,

539
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: would it have the same problem. Uh, you know, I'm

540
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: just I'm just trying to break it down into simplicity.

541
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: All right, sir. Sounds good. Thank you. I really appreciate

542
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: your show, you really, I mean you let me know,

543
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: Jeff and send me an email us send your wiring diagram.

544
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. You're welcome. You'll be well. I'm running any

545
00:28:52,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Hey,

546
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: welcome back when I'm named the car Doctor. Tom. I'm

547
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: a year late answering this email. I just it just

548
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: came up. I swear it just came up. This comes

549
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: to us from Scott. He's he's the operations now I'm

550
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: telling you Scott is the operations manager from McDonald's Broadcasting

551
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: w l S out in Lansing, and he writes, Hey, Ron,

552
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm listening to your show working on a Sunday. This

553
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: is a year ago. I don't know why we just

554
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: got this is crazy. One of our station vehicles a

555
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: two thousand three Chevy Expressman, only about thirty thousand miles

556
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: on it, lots of city driving, idoling, parade speed, YadA YadA. Yeah,

557
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm hearing you talk about ground straps rushed out on vehicles,

558
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: which made me laugh because that's what happened to our van.

559
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Awhile Ago Michigan Sult. Michigan Sult doesn't kind of vehicles anyway.

560
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: We currently have a check engine light on as well

561
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: as a transmission that won't go went to fourth gear.

562
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Drives find as a three speed. I believe the problems

563
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: appeared at the same time. I can't say. We took

564
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: it to the Chevy dealer who kept it for a week.

565
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they did a lot of diagnos sis

566
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: just told us we needed to rebuild the transmission. My

567
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: issue was several years back one of the trans food

568
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: lines leaked all the fluid out, and the same dealer

569
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: basically how to rebuild the same thing, how to rebuild

570
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: the thing already. So either their work I won't say

571
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: that word, or they can't diagnose worth a hoot. Um

572
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing there. I wonder if you run into this

573
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: or any suggest before we take a different shop. Um,

574
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Scott, if if I understand this right,

575
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: this vehicle has less than thirty thousand miles on it,

576
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: and they rebuilt the trans some time ago. My question

577
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: would be what kind of warranty is on the trans

578
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: um It sounds like it's going first say, or second year,

579
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: third year and it won't go into fourth which could

580
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: be a problem in the three four clutch assembly all right,

581
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: or it could be a problem in one of the

582
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: shift control solioids. UH. One of the interesting things to

583
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: note is that if you have repeated trans failure on

584
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: this generation GM vehicle, It's gonna sound strange, but have

585
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: them check and make sure the mass airflow sensor is

586
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: clean and operating as a design, that it can do

587
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: everything it's supposed to do. The mass airflow sensors measures

588
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: air volume coming into the engine. They've found that when

589
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the mass airflow sensor is at a calibration and can't

590
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: perform its job correctly, it's affecting transmission shift point quality

591
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: and control and you can shorten the life of the trends.

592
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: They've got documented evidence of this, so um, just be aware.

593
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: And I guess I'm getting to the cere late so

594
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I'm actually helping. But Scott, I apologize.

595
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where this This email just kind of

596
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: fell out of the sky, so um it just literally

597
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: appeared in my ear box this morning. The electrons must

598
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: be slow out of Michigan this year, tom Um. But

599
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: in any event, Scott, yeah, I agree, And you know

600
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: what I think part of the issue here is that

601
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: they rebuilt this trans it's got low mileage on it. Um,

602
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: it's gotta last longer than whatever mileage. Since they rebuilt

603
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: it last. It can't be very long. From the sounds

604
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: of your email, Uh, you know, transmissions to me, a

605
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: transmission that doesn't go forty or fifty thousand miles. Mine

606
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: failed in my suburban at fifty five and that was annoying.

607
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: But I understood that it was uh fourteen years old

608
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: at the time. I could understand that that was older.

609
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: But this sounds like it's a couple of years old

610
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and a couple of miles. I think the dealer should

611
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: be doing something for you. You only get one chance

612
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: to annoy a customer and make him into a new

613
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: customer somewhere else. Scott, I hope to hear from you.

614
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm curious how that turned out. And I'm sorry you

615
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: have to work on Sundays or did And I'm sorry

616
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I got to this so late zero zero running any

617
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor coming back right after this, welcome

618
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: back Running of the Car Doctor, kind of winding it

619
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: down this. You know, maybe we were the car show

620
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: for the radio stations. I you know, maybe that's what

621
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: it is. We heard from uh UM w q t

622
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: K this week Tony Lynn he Um. He had a

623
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: problem with his recent his Toyota UM that he had

624
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: taken somewhere and they did some work. It went I forgot.

625
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: The story was he went through a car wash and anyway,

626
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: it came out of there and the mirror was um uh,

627
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: one mirror was bent one way and one mirror was

628
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: in the proper position, and eat quite know what to do.

629
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: And here's the complication. Here's where it gets really kind

630
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: of bizarre, because this was a newer Toyota. As I

631
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: said to Tony, I said, you know, Tony, I said,

632
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: if the mirror is broken because it was bent backwards

633
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: like that, I think was the issue. Um, it was

634
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: at a position I'll say it like that. The you know,

635
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: this car has ad US. This car has automatic driver

636
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: assist meaning you know camera. I always ask, does I

637
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: have a camera in the review mirrort? Did um this

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Speaker 1: car had you know a camera? It had a dos uh?

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Speaker 1: That mirror is probably eight hundred to a thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: You know, the days of cheap side view mirrors are gone.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I said, you know it's already broken.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we try, because you sure sec

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Speaker 1: want to try and avoid having to spend that kind

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Speaker 1: of money. So I looked up and I found the procedure.

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Speaker 1: Toyota actually has a calibration procedure for recalibrating your mirrors

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Speaker 1: to make sure, you know, do they work and are

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Speaker 1: they in sync? And and one of the steps in

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Speaker 1: the procedure was to take the mirror and and just

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Speaker 1: manually moved just you know, Tony was hesitant. You know,

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Speaker 1: I said, Tony, it's already broken. You can't break it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Already it's already in the wrong position. So, uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, somewhere from upstate New York. I must have

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Speaker 1: heard it in my sleep because I thought I heard.

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Speaker 1: And I got an email the next day, Hey, ron,

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Speaker 1: I fixed the mirror. I am followed Toyota's procedure step

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Speaker 1: four or seven or whatever it was, and they just

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Speaker 1: called for it to be bent back into position. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, now they hit the button and now they

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Speaker 1: both work and they're they're calibrated, and they're moving evenly.

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say thank you so Tony,

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Speaker 1: for you and everybody else up there at w q

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Speaker 1: t K, thanks for thinking of us to answer the question.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, we're glad to be of help

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Speaker 1: because that's what we're here for. And thanks again for

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Speaker 1: being part of our affiliate team to help carry this

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Speaker 1: show and bring it out to America, because we're proud

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Speaker 1: to do that with each and every one of you,

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Speaker 1: and we're glad to continue to do so and hope

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Speaker 1: to do so for a long long time. Um, but

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Speaker 1: that fixed it for Tony. Um. You know, it just

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Speaker 1: made me always come back to procedure, procedure, procedure, diagnosed, diagnosed, diagnosed.

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Speaker 1: It's there's always an answer. Somebody must have bumped into

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Speaker 1: the mirror in the parking lot and that's what we

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Speaker 1: ended up deciding, I think was the end of the conversation,

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Speaker 1: and you know, kind of whacked it the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you all this because I want Tom

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Speaker 1: Ray to know that I finally fixed something. So I'm

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Speaker 1: good at this until the next time I'm running any

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Speaker 1: in the car doctor reminding each and every one of you,

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Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. Seeing